April 30, 2025 • 29 mins
O.C. man guilty in murder of ex-girlfriend captured on her best friend’s voicemail. Monster quake could sink swath of California, dramatically heightening flood risk. LA City changing film permits. Caveman Skincare.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
App Stories who are following The Dow has rebounded quite
a bit.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
It sunk immediately after.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We got some bad economic news today that the GDP
fell at zero point three percent annualized pace for the
first quarter of twenty twenty five. President Trump took to
truth social to say that our country will boom. We
have to get rid of the Biden overhang, which is
what he referred to these bad numbers. As Ukrainian officials
(00:38):
say they are ready to sign a landmark mineral resources
agreement with the US in Washington. The AP has reported
that Ukraine's Economy Minister, Yulia Suravdenko, is currently in Washington
for the final coordination of the agreements technical details. We
haven't heard anything specifically out of the Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Told you about the NFL draft in that prank call,
Remember the defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrick, former linebacker in the NFL.
His son, it was twenty one year old son found
Shador Sanders's number on an iPad at the home and
called and had.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
That fake phone call.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Well, now, the Atlanta Falcons have been fined two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars and defensive coordinator Jeff Oulbrick has
been fined one thousand dollars excuse me, one hundred thousand
dollars as a result of his kid participating in that
prank call. That is a big chunk of change. Two
hundred and fifty grand for the team, one hundred grand
for him. Man, that kid Jacks is in trouble. Would
(01:38):
you imagine your son costing you and your employer three
hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Well, the assumption, it sounds like, is that they were
careless in the information that phone was only or the
number to that phone was only supposed to be given
to NFL teams right like those So why.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Would the defensive coordinator even have that number? That's not
one of his guys that he's recruiting if you looked
at it that way. And that's, by the way, the
way they say should or Sanders approach to all those
visits like they were recruiting and not job interviews. But anyway, yeah, like,
why would Ulrick even have that number? I mean, I
guess because he was a name in the NFL, and
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that goes a disc coaching.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Staff and have you know, he'd have the ability to
help them figure out who they're going to get.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Also, kids are super crafty, Like if Dad's iPad is
open and Dad's a d C for somebody, of course
you're going to scroll through and see whose numbers he has.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
I mean I would think you would anyway. So there's that.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
And then also Adam Schefter reporting that that was not
the only prank call. Turns out that Abdul Carter, who
was number three in the draft, the Giants took him.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
That's a defensive end.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Abdul Carter got a prank called during the second pick
of the draft. The caller said he was from the
Jaguars and they were going to select him with the
number two overall pick. Now, his agent is Drew Rosenhaus,
and he says it's unfortunate that these private numbers are
getting to the people making the prank calls. Abdulla and
I knew it was BS and didn't even tell his
family about the call. Minutes later, he got the real
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call from the Giants.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Wow, you have to pick up their operation.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I love a prank call like I'm sad that prank
calls are no longer. That was so much entertainment as
a youth, prank calling.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Never did that, Oh my gosh, we did it all
the time, never afraid that you get caught.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
What are they going to do?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Are they going to charge your dad a one hundred
thousand and you're ten his team two hundred and fifty thousand.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
There's no there's no crime there.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
There is a story.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
The jurors down in Orange County have convicted a guy
of first degree murder after he stabbed and killed his girlfriend.
Estranged girlfriend is probably the best way to put it,
and basically the name in his coffin was a voicemail
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that captured the moments of her death.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Could you imagine this, as the deputy DA said to
the jury, if you listen to it carefully, you can
hear a woman narrating her own murder. It was a
thirty seven second voicemail message as he attacked her with
multiple knives. She had worked as she had worked excuse
(04:31):
me as a bartender's assistant, but was pursuing a psychology
degree online. She had been dating this guy, Craig Sharon,
an air force veteran for just a few months. She
had received a seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars settlement
after that bike accident gave him nearly one hundred thousand
(04:53):
dollars of it. According to testimony, he texted her, thank
you for showing me that you are allmine after receiving
that money.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, that motorcycle accident's important because, like you said, she
couldn't grab a knife well enough to chop lemons as
was required by her job, as she was working at
as a bartender barback bartender's assistant when she changed the
locks in her apartment because she was terrified of this guy.
She had a restraining order out against him. He showed
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up at her apartment the day the locks were changed
and she was on the phone. Apparently they said he
may have just simply walked in an unlocked door. It
was not clear if she had locked it or not,
and he attacked her and she was describing, unfortunately what
was going on a voicemail message. You can hear her screaming,
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he's gonna kill me, Get away from me. Prosecutor said
that she was stabbed twice in the chest, nearly sliced
her nosed off, he stabbed her in the head and
a knife that he was using now he also when
cops showed up, they found her dad and him bleeding
from wounds to his chest and his neck. Prosecutors said
that this guy did those to himself to make it
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look like what happened was self defense, and the prosecutor said,
it doesn't matter if he self inflicted wounds or if
she defended herself. He was the aggressor one hundred percent
of the time.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Also, during the trial, three of his ex girlfriends testified
that they had taken out restraining orders against him.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well do you not?
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Do you not?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I mean, in today's society, I'm assuming that you would
look at a romantic interest, you would try to find
out because because so much is so much as now
available that wasn't twenty years ago. Yeah, that you would
be able to find out this guy, this guy's name.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, but relationships like that, people like that who are controlling,
and people who are susceptible to relationships where they are
in one with somebody who's controlling despite knowing all that.
And there's also the trait that many of us have
as women, as we think that we're different with me,
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he'll be different.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
That's just kind of how we're wired.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
The defense attorney said his client did have a history
of violence, but that it was non murderous violence, and
that the evidence that they showed said that he may
have acted in the heat of passion or even in
self defense when he stabbed and killed his girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
So awful.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I can't imagine hearing the audio of that. All right,
coming up next to Monster Quake news. We got to
do this before Deborah gets here. This is why we're
doing it now. I also have a story about it
in the news, so she's going to have to play it.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Ohrant the baby, You're so evil.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
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Speaker 2 (08:07):
Paramount is in talks to make a deal. Sherry Redstone,
the controlling shareholder, is in favor of settling the case
because they are trying to sell Paramount to Skydance. That
would require a sign off from the federal government, and
what better way to get in the good graces of
the federal government than to cut a check to them
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Speaker 1 (08:29):
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Speaker 1 (09:24):
There was a new earthquake scare article in the La
Times today. Here is the opening paragraph. A long feared
monster earthquake off California. Organ in Washington could cause some
coastal areas to sink by more than six feet. What
does that mean? Oh, it's heightened the risk of flooding. Yes,
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it does. Now, if we sink by six feet here,
I am not going to be worried about the wall
of water, the impending wall of water in Burbank. I'm
going to be six feet underground and worried about how
to get out of the rubble.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah. I think there's a.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Like if if massive flooding is going to be a
problem because the earth has fallen six feet below, there's
gonna be other issues besides the flooding.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
You know, the fires.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
You're at six hundred foot elevation right now, so that
also you're at six hundred feet so that you're is
let me repeat.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Are you having a stroke?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I think so cool? You're correct if it gets so
bad that.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
That's how I really know you're having a stroke is
when you say things like you're correct.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
That was the key, not the fact I couldn't say
words correctly. It's the correct words I said were the
ones that surprised you. If the ground drops six feet
there are much bigger. You ain't going home exactly This
study came out in the journal Proceedings of the National
Academy of Sciences, which is always a fun read.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
The last maybe in the waiting room of your colon.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
The last megaquake on the Cascadia subduction zone, which was
a magnitude nine.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Happened seventeen hundred it's now two.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Three hundred years ago, three hundred and twenty five years ago.
Based on archaeological evidence, they said that there were villages
up in the Pacific Northwest especially that did sink by
several feet and had to be completely abandoned because at
that point they become part of the Columbia River or
the Pacific Ocean or wherever they happened. To be the
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next great earthquake and have to be a eight or larger,
they said, could cause land in those areas to sink
anywhere from one point six to six point six feet,
and that they're talking about would increase the number of
people who live in floodplains. The difference is, I mean,
we've talked about how rising sea levels are bad and
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you're going to have to change the way you live
if you live on the beach or you live in
these coastal floodplain areas. But this that happens over the
course of hundreds and thousands of years. They're talking about
this happening within minutes, and there's not going to be
a lot of opportunity for you to put your house
on stilts in a few minutes in order to avoid
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the flood.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Here's the takeaway, guys, Eat the donut.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Eat the donut?
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Buy the shoes.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
By the shoes, that's an even better one.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I still think of those boots Stebra and up set
that you didn't buy.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
You know what though, Shannon, Yeah, I did a little
research into those, and they had half hair on them.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I don't want to Oh, I did not know they did.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
So even if I wanted to spend that from a
cow yeah, oh oh god, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I guess I just thought that they would look really
cute on you. I guess that height of boot.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
Yeah, No, I loved them. I mean I did give
them a look. Yeah, and besides the ridiculous price.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
We'll find the perfect boots, you will, yeah, we will,
all right?
Speaker 7 (12:59):
Yeah, I love I need a high leopard boot with
like three inch heels because I'm so short.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
Yes, yeah, wow, we really got off topic.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I do like the three inches. That's like my happy place.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Yeah, well, but you're taller than me barely, Shannon.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
When I come in here in flats, Yeah, everybody, you're
so upset.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
Everybody asks me how tall are you?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I know I feel that way though. When I wear flats,
I always think that he grows. I'm like, did you
get taller? What happened? But I think I'm of the
age where three inches as far as I wear the
four or five ones, and it's a it is a
touch and go situation all day long.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
Oh yeah, well I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, because if I go down, I'm going down.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
That's true. I do like wearing the four or five
Not to work.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Though, yeah, right, like to dinner where you're not going
to be walking around for five hours exactly.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
I like the heights, I agree.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah all right, Sorry, Gary, No, sorry, I was asleep
there for a second.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Tell me more about the Oh okay, oh no, all right?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Coming up next to LA City is looking into changing
the way that it doles out those film permits, hopefully
trying to stop the bleeding.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
We'll see about their plan when we come back.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Gary. Shannon will continue you're.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
The NFL has levied on the Atlanta Falcons for their
defensive coordinator's son pranking Schehar Sanders during the draft two
hundred and fifty thousand dollars find Jeff Ulbrich the DC
one hundred grand.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
And I didn't think about it. I just watching Stephen A.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Smith opine and he does that sometimes it's wild, but
he brought up something I hadn't thought about. Your son,
didn't even think about you and your career like his,
Like Jeff ulrich Son doing that, not only doing stealing
the number, making the call, having someone film it and
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then posting it. That is such an FU to your dad. Now,
I know dad's in the NFL. They're not around all
the time when their kids are growing up. And I
don't know how that manifest but in this case doesn't
look like it manifested too good? Did it to have
such a low regard for the professionalism?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
How holds the son twenty one twenty one? I get that.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I mean, I don't excuse it, but yeah, I could
see how as twenty one year old would be so
complete because he he's not thinking about his dad's not
thinking about his dad's job at all.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, because he wouldn't think anybody would. I don't.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I still think you have the fear of your dad
at twenty one, though.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, but you have a bigger excitement.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Don't know the fear of your dad kick your ass?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I mean you'd screw you as a twenty one year
different because you follow rules.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
But like a twenty one year old, I.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Think would be terrified of screwing with his father's employment.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
No, because at twenty one, he doesn't know what it
took to get that job. He doesn't know what it
takes for his dad to be a defensive coordinator in
the NFL. He doesn't understand the years of work that
went into the because he's twenty one, he doesn't know.
There's no way he could possibly know that. It would
be very unusual.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
The idea of interfering with my parents' jobs to me
is like insane.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I would I they would.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Be one of the twenty one year old dude dumb
af no concern outside of his own body.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, zero, I mean, and he learns it in the
hard way.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Do you want to laugh? You want to laugh, you
want to giggle, you want a little chuckle chuckle.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I'll give it a try, okay.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
The new chief executive of California's high speed rail projects
says it's time to get serious about how to pay
for it. Oh my, CEO, Ian Shaudrai says he understands
the criticisms lobbed at the long delayed project over the years.
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He hopes to have clarity by the end of summer
on whether the private sector will finally get on board
to help finance the more than one hundred billion dollar project.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I want to know.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I want to list of people easy to find time
to get serious about it. I want to list to
the people who have been the head of the high
speed rail Authority for the last say ten years, because
there's been multiples.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Well, remember Diane Einstein's husband was involved at one time,
and now.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
They're all dead. How dumb they're dead? Her husband, she's dead,
she's dead. How dumb do you have to be to
take that job or how.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Enriched do you have to become to take that job
knowing that you're going to be able to scrape money
off of off the top. That's incredible. Now we need
to start getting serious about it. One of the big
stories that we have decided that we're going to follow
for the next weeks, months, and potential years is this
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flight of entertainment production out of California. Conway was talking
about it last year that husband is dead, the find
sein husband. Yeah, they're all dead. I think the Conway
was talking about it last night and said it in
pretty dire terms that unless we can turn that around,
the flight of production of entertainment, unless we could turn
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it around, this state is gone. And it's not just
because it's the main thing. It's not just in terms
of you look at the GDP of California, entertainment is
down the list, but it also promotes tourism to California,
which is a major income for the state. The City
of La yesterday a unanimously passed a measure that tries
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to change the onerous the expensive film permitting process. Council
Member Adrian Azarian called for various city departments to research
new fee structures, potential discounts, or even fee waivers for
public property shoots, different ways to use public safety officers
to try to streamline film permitting and stage certification procedures.
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And solutions to the price gouging for crew parking and
base camp locations that exist around the city. The Hugo Soto,
martinezn the Aram and Tracy Park, Monica Ridriguez, and Meldipadia.
They all spoke in support of this measure at this meeting.
Like I said, they did pass it unanimously. But it's
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going to take more than that. This is one of
those Herculean tasks that's going to echo what we've seen
out of Altadena and the Palisades.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
You know, like Sisyphis anymore with the old Hercules?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Which one is more appropriate? Do you think? I mean,
is there one.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
That Well, there's a Hercules was me too?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
But was Sissyphis? Uh? Did he like women? I mean like,
did he abuse women?
Speaker 8 (20:20):
Or because Hercules, well, I know it was about the
rock that he rolled up the hill.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I don't know what he liked to play with naked.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I just want to make sure that it no, no,
not naked. I just mean was he nice to them?
I don't know, I'll look is getting that deep into him?
In the mid eighties, councilman Issarian stated that in the
mid eighties, LA regularly hosted shoots from major tent pole productions.
By twenty thirteen, there were zero tent pole films shooting
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in California by tent pole. Think of your massive blockbusters
like the Marvel series or Star Wars or James Bond
or something like that. And he said, we've been regressing
and losing so much ground. Now we're losing commerci and
platforms and mini series. We cannot have this happen. The
state is aware of this, obviously. Governor Newsom has attempted
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to try to do this, a proposal to increase the
cap on the state film and TV tax program to
more than double it from three hundred and thirty million
up to seven hundred and fifty million.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
But you're dealing with other states that do.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Not have caps at all and are willing to give
tax breaks to all kinds of productions, not just major
dramatic series or major feature films or something like that.
We've got to do something, and I'm hoping that this
is one of those steps that goes in the right direction.
Last year, Mayor Bass did create an advisory group of
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industry leaders. She issued an executive director that called for
the city to meet every quarter with stakeholders in the
industry to try to review and make recommendations for reforming
the process for permitting. The President is aware of this.
He's asked some of his buddies in Hollywood to come
up with plans to try to keep keep the film
and TV industry in California.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Sisyphis ended up marrying a daughter of Atlas, and did
you know that in some versions he is the true
father of Odysseus p s.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Sisyphis was in really good shape.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
So was Hercules. Is are you looking at a direct
picture of Sisyphis right now? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yeah, I forgot what we were fighting over.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
We're not fighting. It's not fighting.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
You wanted to between. I just wanted to know is
one more accepted than the other? Did one do bad
things or say something wrong? Do you want to meet
to or you want to cancel somebody?
Speaker 5 (22:43):
You know?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I don't want to use the one that's canceled because
I don't want to be accus either one of them
is canceled.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Okay, good.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
A Herculean task refers to a difficult but achievable task.
A Sissyphician task is endless, futile, no true reward, no accomplishment.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
So I'm hoping that this is a hercule intense that
it can be done. Yes, but it may prove to
be sissyphician right persistence.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Why do people not listen perseverance? There are people who
don't listeniphician is all about sisipis is all about perseverance.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
And how much more they would know?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
You're never going to get to perfection. Some real work
we've done here today. Maybe we'll fix your skin when
we come back.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Sure, hope, So Caveman method. This was a surprise and
you guys sprung this on me and I didn't expect it.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
So we've talked about your skin.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I've ordered products for your skin, because that's what friends do.
I don't know if you know this about women, but
when we care, we uh, we share skin care secrets.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
That's your love language. Skin care, that is our love language.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
And I went ahead and I got you the beef
tallow to rub on your face, and I think it lasted.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I did a few days. I wasn't religious with it,
and I only did it maybe once or twice. I
did it once a day for maybe four out of
seven days.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
And then that was it.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Now you seem to be like a routine person that
when you get into a routine you kind of stick
to it.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yes? Why are you asking like that?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Because I don't know why you didn't make this a
routine at least until the product ran out.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
I don't know. I don't know. Because it was beef
tallow on my face. Maybe that I mean it.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Maybe you don't like the idea of beef on your face.
Is that what I'm getting? Which is fine. There are
other things we can put on your face. But this
whole Caveman thing is the exact opposite of that. I
don't do anything to my face.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
The Caveman method has gone viral after TikToker Tiya Zachkire
revealed she spent more than six weeks not using any products,
including water, on her face, in a bid to let
her skin barrier rebuild itself naturally. The Caveman method, they say,
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is as minimal as it gets. No cleanser, no moisturizer,
not even a splash of water. That's odd, the splash
of water thing, because I think a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Well you shower, right, I mean right, that's when I
wash my face, right, is when I shower?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Is that wrong?
Speaker 4 (25:49):
No? I think that's fine.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I just think a moisturizer wouldn't kill you.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
You know, no, it wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
But is it necessary? No? Why did you use it?
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Because my face will look dry?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I always say, like, you could, you could? I mean,
your face is fine, acceptable, We've heard that before. But
you know, men do it all the time. It's not
like just a woman thing.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
That's perfectly okay. I don't judge people. I do judge
people who do that. I just think that's a waste
of money.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
But it's already been bought for you. What has the beef?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Beef?
Speaker 8 (26:37):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
And I don't know where it is. I think my
wife took some.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Oh okay, well, I mean it's being used then that's
does that counts?
Speaker 4 (26:44):
All I care about is that's being used.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
The problem is this woman on TikTok that has done
this is showing off her close ups of her you know, face,
and her skin is kind of rough and flaky and
just collected colored in some places. She says this is
part of the process. She said, the tariffs are going
to take a moment to the skin. Tariffs are going
to take a moment before they really kick in, and
(27:11):
there might be some pain in the meantime.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
There is a board.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Certified dermatologist who says what you're seeing is not normal.
It's a myth to think that your skin will thrive
in a state of neglect. Yeah, another dermatologist. Skin care
does not have to be a complicated ten step process. However,
washing your face daily is recommended to remove oil and
sweat and pollutant to build up.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Here's the other thing is is if you don't want
to wash your face, you don't want to put anything
on it, you don't want to splash it with water. Fine,
but why is everyone advertising their regimes on.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
TikTok like this is what I do. It's great if
it works for you.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Is it a trend just because people are lazy they
don't want to wash their face. I understand that I
get tied several several times. I rarely go to sleep
with my face.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Feel bad for my wife sometimes because she carves out
to the nighttime routine and you guys got to carve
out Like, yeah, I rarely do that.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
I get I just don't care.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Get lazy wash your face right. No, sometimes I don't
go to bed with your makeup on. Sometimes sometimes I
just sweat it off and then I just sit in
the sweat and the whatever left of the makeup.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Like melted.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
But at least I'm not going to bed with beef
on my face like you.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Okay, you're it's you're the one, all right.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Coming up next, a little.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Bit more about that big cabinet meeting President had today
and his big interview with.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
ABC News from last night.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
We'll talk about that and we get into swamp watch
up next on Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
App Stories who are following The Dow has rebounded quite
a bit.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
It sunk immediately after.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We got some bad economic news today that the GDP
fell at zero point three percent annualized pace for the
first quarter of twenty twenty five. President Trump took to
truth social to say that our country will boom. We
have to get rid of the Biden overhang, which is
what he referred to these bad numbers. As Ukrainian officials
(00:38):
say they are ready to sign a landmark mineral resources
agreement with the US in Washington. The AP has reported
that Ukraine's Economy Minister, Yulia Suravdenko, is currently in Washington
for the final coordination of the agreements technical details. We
haven't heard anything specifically out of the Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Told you about the NFL draft in that prank call,
Remember the defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrick, former linebacker in the NFL.
His son, it was twenty one year old son found
Shador Sanders's number on an iPad at the home and
called and had.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
That fake phone call.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Well, now, the Atlanta Falcons have been fined two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars and defensive coordinator Jeff Oulbrick has
been fined one thousand dollars excuse me, one hundred thousand
dollars as a result of his kid participating in that
prank call. That is a big chunk of change. Two
hundred and fifty grand for the team, one hundred grand
for him. Man, that kid Jacks is in trouble. Would
(01:38):
you imagine your son costing you and your employer three
hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Well, the assumption, it sounds like, is that they were
careless in the information that phone was only or the
number to that phone was only supposed to be given
to NFL teams right like those So why.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Would the defensive coordinator even have that number? That's not
one of his guys that he's recruiting if you looked
at it that way. And that's, by the way, the
way they say should or Sanders approach to all those
visits like they were recruiting and not job interviews. But anyway, yeah, like,
why would Ulrick even have that number? I mean, I
guess because he was a name in the NFL, and
(02:17):
that goes a disc coaching.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Staff and have you know, he'd have the ability to
help them figure out who they're going to get.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Also, kids are super crafty, Like if Dad's iPad is
open and Dad's a d C for somebody, of course
you're going to scroll through and see whose numbers he has.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
I mean I would think you would anyway. So there's that.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
And then also Adam Schefter reporting that that was not
the only prank call. Turns out that Abdul Carter, who
was number three in the draft, the Giants took him.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
That's a defensive end.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Abdul Carter got a prank called during the second pick
of the draft. The caller said he was from the
Jaguars and they were going to select him with the
number two overall pick. Now, his agent is Drew Rosenhaus,
and he says it's unfortunate that these private numbers are
getting to the people making the prank calls. Abdulla and
I knew it was BS and didn't even tell his
family about the call. Minutes later, he got the real
(03:10):
call from the Giants.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Wow, you have to pick up their operation.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I love a prank call like I'm sad that prank
calls are no longer. That was so much entertainment as
a youth, prank calling.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Never did that, Oh my gosh, we did it all
the time, never afraid that you get caught.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
What are they going to do?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Are they going to charge your dad a one hundred
thousand and you're ten his team two hundred and fifty thousand.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
There's no there's no crime there.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
There is a story.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
The jurors down in Orange County have convicted a guy
of first degree murder after he stabbed and killed his girlfriend.
Estranged girlfriend is probably the best way to put it,
and basically the name in his coffin was a voicemail
(04:03):
that captured the moments of her death.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Could you imagine this, as the deputy DA said to
the jury, if you listen to it carefully, you can
hear a woman narrating her own murder. It was a
thirty seven second voicemail message as he attacked her with
multiple knives. She had worked as she had worked excuse
(04:31):
me as a bartender's assistant, but was pursuing a psychology
degree online. She had been dating this guy, Craig Sharon,
an air force veteran for just a few months. She
had received a seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars settlement
after that bike accident gave him nearly one hundred thousand
(04:53):
dollars of it. According to testimony, he texted her, thank
you for showing me that you are allmine after receiving
that money.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, that motorcycle accident's important because, like you said, she
couldn't grab a knife well enough to chop lemons as
was required by her job, as she was working at
as a bartender barback bartender's assistant when she changed the
locks in her apartment because she was terrified of this guy.
She had a restraining order out against him. He showed
(05:26):
up at her apartment the day the locks were changed
and she was on the phone. Apparently they said he
may have just simply walked in an unlocked door. It
was not clear if she had locked it or not,
and he attacked her and she was describing, unfortunately what
was going on a voicemail message. You can hear her screaming,
(05:51):
he's gonna kill me, Get away from me. Prosecutor said
that she was stabbed twice in the chest, nearly sliced
her nosed off, he stabbed her in the head and
a knife that he was using now he also when
cops showed up, they found her dad and him bleeding
from wounds to his chest and his neck. Prosecutors said
that this guy did those to himself to make it
(06:13):
look like what happened was self defense, and the prosecutor said,
it doesn't matter if he self inflicted wounds or if
she defended herself. He was the aggressor one hundred percent
of the time.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Also, during the trial, three of his ex girlfriends testified
that they had taken out restraining orders against him.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well do you not?
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Do you not?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I mean, in today's society, I'm assuming that you would
look at a romantic interest, you would try to find
out because because so much is so much as now
available that wasn't twenty years ago. Yeah, that you would
be able to find out this guy, this guy's name.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, but relationships like that, people like that who are controlling,
and people who are susceptible to relationships where they are
in one with somebody who's controlling despite knowing all that.
And there's also the trait that many of us have
as women, as we think that we're different with me,
(07:15):
he'll be different.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
That's just kind of how we're wired.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
The defense attorney said his client did have a history
of violence, but that it was non murderous violence, and
that the evidence that they showed said that he may
have acted in the heat of passion or even in
self defense when he stabbed and killed his girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
So awful.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I can't imagine hearing the audio of that. All right,
coming up next to Monster Quake news. We got to
do this before Deborah gets here. This is why we're
doing it now. I also have a story about it
in the news, so she's going to have to play it.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Ohrant the baby, You're so evil.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
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because they are trying to sell Paramount to Skydance. That
would require a sign off from the federal government, and
what better way to get in the good graces of
the federal government than to cut a check to them
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for a certain amount of money.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
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shut down a couple of lanes. They're in Boile Heights
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going to last a little more than an hour, so
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Speaker 1 (09:24):
There was a new earthquake scare article in the La
Times today. Here is the opening paragraph. A long feared
monster earthquake off California. Organ in Washington could cause some
coastal areas to sink by more than six feet. What
does that mean? Oh, it's heightened the risk of flooding. Yes,
(09:46):
it does. Now, if we sink by six feet here,
I am not going to be worried about the wall
of water, the impending wall of water in Burbank. I'm
going to be six feet underground and worried about how
to get out of the rubble.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah. I think there's a.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Like if if massive flooding is going to be a
problem because the earth has fallen six feet below, there's
gonna be other issues besides the flooding.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
You know, the fires.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
You're at six hundred foot elevation right now, so that
also you're at six hundred feet so that you're is
let me repeat.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Are you having a stroke?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I think so cool? You're correct if it gets so
bad that.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
That's how I really know you're having a stroke is
when you say things like you're correct.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
That was the key, not the fact I couldn't say
words correctly. It's the correct words I said were the
ones that surprised you. If the ground drops six feet
there are much bigger. You ain't going home exactly This
study came out in the journal Proceedings of the National
Academy of Sciences, which is always a fun read.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
The last maybe in the waiting room of your colon.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
The last megaquake on the Cascadia subduction zone, which was
a magnitude nine.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Happened seventeen hundred it's now two.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Three hundred years ago, three hundred and twenty five years ago.
Based on archaeological evidence, they said that there were villages
up in the Pacific Northwest especially that did sink by
several feet and had to be completely abandoned because at
that point they become part of the Columbia River or
the Pacific Ocean or wherever they happened. To be the
(11:32):
next great earthquake and have to be a eight or larger,
they said, could cause land in those areas to sink
anywhere from one point six to six point six feet,
and that they're talking about would increase the number of
people who live in floodplains. The difference is, I mean,
we've talked about how rising sea levels are bad and
(11:53):
you're going to have to change the way you live
if you live on the beach or you live in
these coastal floodplain areas. But this that happens over the
course of hundreds and thousands of years. They're talking about
this happening within minutes, and there's not going to be
a lot of opportunity for you to put your house
on stilts in a few minutes in order to avoid
(12:13):
the flood.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Here's the takeaway, guys, Eat the donut.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Eat the donut?
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Buy the shoes.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
By the shoes, that's an even better one.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I still think of those boots Stebra and up set
that you didn't buy.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
You know what though, Shannon, Yeah, I did a little
research into those, and they had half hair on them.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I don't want to Oh, I did not know they did.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
So even if I wanted to spend that from a
cow yeah, oh oh god, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I guess I just thought that they would look really
cute on you. I guess that height of boot.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
Yeah, No, I loved them. I mean I did give
them a look. Yeah, and besides the ridiculous price.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
We'll find the perfect boots, you will, yeah, we will,
all right?
Speaker 7 (12:59):
Yeah, I love I need a high leopard boot with
like three inch heels because I'm so short.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
Yes, yeah, wow, we really got off topic.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I do like the three inches. That's like my happy place.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Yeah, well, but you're taller than me barely, Shannon.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
When I come in here in flats, Yeah, everybody, you're
so upset.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
Everybody asks me how tall are you?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I know I feel that way though. When I wear flats,
I always think that he grows. I'm like, did you
get taller? What happened? But I think I'm of the
age where three inches as far as I wear the
four or five ones, and it's a it is a
touch and go situation all day long.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
Oh yeah, well I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, because if I go down, I'm going down.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
That's true. I do like wearing the four or five
Not to work.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Though, yeah, right, like to dinner where you're not going
to be walking around for five hours exactly.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
I like the heights, I agree.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah all right, Sorry, Gary, No, sorry, I was asleep
there for a second.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Tell me more about the Oh okay, oh no, all right?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Coming up next to LA City is looking into changing
the way that it doles out those film permits, hopefully
trying to stop the bleeding.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
We'll see about their plan when we come back.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Gary. Shannon will continue you're.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
The NFL has levied on the Atlanta Falcons for their
defensive coordinator's son pranking Schehar Sanders during the draft two
hundred and fifty thousand dollars find Jeff Ulbrich the DC
one hundred grand.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
And I didn't think about it. I just watching Stephen A.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Smith opine and he does that sometimes it's wild, but
he brought up something I hadn't thought about. Your son,
didn't even think about you and your career like his,
Like Jeff ulrich Son doing that, not only doing stealing
the number, making the call, having someone film it and
(15:04):
then posting it. That is such an FU to your dad. Now,
I know dad's in the NFL. They're not around all
the time when their kids are growing up. And I
don't know how that manifest but in this case doesn't
look like it manifested too good? Did it to have
such a low regard for the professionalism?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
How holds the son twenty one twenty one? I get that.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I mean, I don't excuse it, but yeah, I could
see how as twenty one year old would be so
complete because he he's not thinking about his dad's not
thinking about his dad's job at all.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, because he wouldn't think anybody would. I don't.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I still think you have the fear of your dad
at twenty one, though.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, but you have a bigger excitement.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Don't know the fear of your dad kick your ass?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I mean you'd screw you as a twenty one year
different because you follow rules.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
But like a twenty one year old, I.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Think would be terrified of screwing with his father's employment.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
No, because at twenty one, he doesn't know what it
took to get that job. He doesn't know what it
takes for his dad to be a defensive coordinator in
the NFL. He doesn't understand the years of work that
went into the because he's twenty one, he doesn't know.
There's no way he could possibly know that. It would
be very unusual.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
The idea of interfering with my parents' jobs to me
is like insane.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I would I they would.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Be one of the twenty one year old dude dumb
af no concern outside of his own body.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, zero, I mean, and he learns it in the
hard way.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Do you want to laugh? You want to laugh, you
want to giggle, you want a little chuckle chuckle.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I'll give it a try, okay.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
The new chief executive of California's high speed rail projects
says it's time to get serious about how to pay
for it. Oh my, CEO, Ian Shaudrai says he understands
the criticisms lobbed at the long delayed project over the years.
(17:15):
He hopes to have clarity by the end of summer
on whether the private sector will finally get on board
to help finance the more than one hundred billion dollar project.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I want to know.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I want to list of people easy to find time
to get serious about it. I want to list to
the people who have been the head of the high
speed rail Authority for the last say ten years, because
there's been multiples.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Well, remember Diane Einstein's husband was involved at one time,
and now.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
They're all dead. How dumb they're dead? Her husband, she's dead,
she's dead. How dumb do you have to be to
take that job or how.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Enriched do you have to become to take that job
knowing that you're going to be able to scrape money
off of off the top. That's incredible. Now we need
to start getting serious about it. One of the big
stories that we have decided that we're going to follow
for the next weeks, months, and potential years is this
(18:17):
flight of entertainment production out of California. Conway was talking
about it last year that husband is dead, the find
sein husband. Yeah, they're all dead. I think the Conway
was talking about it last night and said it in
pretty dire terms that unless we can turn that around,
the flight of production of entertainment, unless we could turn
(18:40):
it around, this state is gone. And it's not just
because it's the main thing. It's not just in terms
of you look at the GDP of California, entertainment is
down the list, but it also promotes tourism to California,
which is a major income for the state. The City
of La yesterday a unanimously passed a measure that tries
(19:03):
to change the onerous the expensive film permitting process. Council
Member Adrian Azarian called for various city departments to research
new fee structures, potential discounts, or even fee waivers for
public property shoots, different ways to use public safety officers
to try to streamline film permitting and stage certification procedures.
(19:26):
And solutions to the price gouging for crew parking and
base camp locations that exist around the city. The Hugo Soto,
martinezn the Aram and Tracy Park, Monica Ridriguez, and Meldipadia.
They all spoke in support of this measure at this meeting.
Like I said, they did pass it unanimously. But it's
(19:49):
going to take more than that. This is one of
those Herculean tasks that's going to echo what we've seen
out of Altadena and the Palisades.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
You know, like Sisyphis anymore with the old Hercules?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Which one is more appropriate? Do you think? I mean,
is there one.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
That Well, there's a Hercules was me too?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
But was Sissyphis? Uh? Did he like women? I mean like,
did he abuse women?
Speaker 8 (20:20):
Or because Hercules, well, I know it was about the
rock that he rolled up the hill.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I don't know what he liked to play with naked.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I just want to make sure that it no, no,
not naked. I just mean was he nice to them?
I don't know, I'll look is getting that deep into him?
In the mid eighties, councilman Issarian stated that in the
mid eighties, LA regularly hosted shoots from major tent pole productions.
By twenty thirteen, there were zero tent pole films shooting
(20:47):
in California by tent pole. Think of your massive blockbusters
like the Marvel series or Star Wars or James Bond
or something like that. And he said, we've been regressing
and losing so much ground. Now we're losing commerci and
platforms and mini series. We cannot have this happen. The
state is aware of this, obviously. Governor Newsom has attempted
(21:08):
to try to do this, a proposal to increase the
cap on the state film and TV tax program to
more than double it from three hundred and thirty million
up to seven hundred and fifty million.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
But you're dealing with other states that do.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Not have caps at all and are willing to give
tax breaks to all kinds of productions, not just major
dramatic series or major feature films or something like that.
We've got to do something, and I'm hoping that this
is one of those steps that goes in the right direction.
Last year, Mayor Bass did create an advisory group of
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industry leaders. She issued an executive director that called for
the city to meet every quarter with stakeholders in the
industry to try to review and make recommendations for reforming
the process for permitting. The President is aware of this.
He's asked some of his buddies in Hollywood to come
up with plans to try to keep keep the film
and TV industry in California.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Sisyphis ended up marrying a daughter of Atlas, and did
you know that in some versions he is the true
father of Odysseus p s.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Sisyphis was in really good shape.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
So was Hercules. Is are you looking at a direct
picture of Sisyphis right now? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yeah, I forgot what we were fighting over.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
We're not fighting. It's not fighting.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
You wanted to between. I just wanted to know is
one more accepted than the other? Did one do bad
things or say something wrong? Do you want to meet
to or you want to cancel somebody?
Speaker 5 (22:43):
You know?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I don't want to use the one that's canceled because
I don't want to be accus either one of them
is canceled.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Okay, good.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
A Herculean task refers to a difficult but achievable task.
A Sissyphician task is endless, futile, no true reward, no accomplishment.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
So I'm hoping that this is a hercule intense that
it can be done. Yes, but it may prove to
be sissyphician right persistence.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Why do people not listen perseverance? There are people who
don't listeniphician is all about sisipis is all about perseverance.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
And how much more they would know?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
You're never going to get to perfection. Some real work
we've done here today. Maybe we'll fix your skin when
we come back.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Sure, hope, So Caveman method. This was a surprise and
you guys sprung this on me and I didn't expect it.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
So we've talked about your skin.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I've ordered products for your skin, because that's what friends do.
I don't know if you know this about women, but
when we care, we uh, we share skin care secrets.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
That's your love language. Skin care, that is our love language.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
And I went ahead and I got you the beef
tallow to rub on your face, and I think it lasted.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I did a few days. I wasn't religious with it,
and I only did it maybe once or twice. I
did it once a day for maybe four out of
seven days.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
And then that was it.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Now you seem to be like a routine person that
when you get into a routine you kind of stick
to it.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yes? Why are you asking like that?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Because I don't know why you didn't make this a
routine at least until the product ran out.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
I don't know. I don't know. Because it was beef
tallow on my face. Maybe that I mean it.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Maybe you don't like the idea of beef on your face.
Is that what I'm getting? Which is fine. There are
other things we can put on your face. But this
whole Caveman thing is the exact opposite of that. I
don't do anything to my face.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
The Caveman method has gone viral after TikToker Tiya Zachkire
revealed she spent more than six weeks not using any products,
including water, on her face, in a bid to let
her skin barrier rebuild itself naturally. The Caveman method, they say,
(25:28):
is as minimal as it gets. No cleanser, no moisturizer,
not even a splash of water. That's odd, the splash
of water thing, because I think a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Well you shower, right, I mean right, that's when I
wash my face, right, is when I shower?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Is that wrong?
Speaker 4 (25:49):
No? I think that's fine.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I just think a moisturizer wouldn't kill you.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
You know, no, it wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
But is it necessary? No? Why did you use it?
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Because my face will look dry?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I always say, like, you could, you could? I mean,
your face is fine, acceptable, We've heard that before. But
you know, men do it all the time. It's not
like just a woman thing.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
That's perfectly okay. I don't judge people. I do judge
people who do that. I just think that's a waste
of money.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
But it's already been bought for you. What has the beef?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Beef?
Speaker 8 (26:37):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
And I don't know where it is. I think my
wife took some.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Oh okay, well, I mean it's being used then that's
does that counts?
Speaker 4 (26:44):
All I care about is that's being used.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
The problem is this woman on TikTok that has done
this is showing off her close ups of her you know, face,
and her skin is kind of rough and flaky and
just collected colored in some places. She says this is
part of the process. She said, the tariffs are going
to take a moment to the skin. Tariffs are going
to take a moment before they really kick in, and
(27:11):
there might be some pain in the meantime.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
There is a board.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Certified dermatologist who says what you're seeing is not normal.
It's a myth to think that your skin will thrive
in a state of neglect. Yeah, another dermatologist. Skin care
does not have to be a complicated ten step process. However,
washing your face daily is recommended to remove oil and
sweat and pollutant to build up.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Here's the other thing is is if you don't want
to wash your face, you don't want to put anything
on it, you don't want to splash it with water. Fine,
but why is everyone advertising their regimes on.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
TikTok like this is what I do. It's great if
it works for you.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Is it a trend just because people are lazy they
don't want to wash their face. I understand that I
get tied several several times. I rarely go to sleep
with my face.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Feel bad for my wife sometimes because she carves out
to the nighttime routine and you guys got to carve
out Like, yeah, I rarely do that.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
I get I just don't care.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Get lazy wash your face right. No, sometimes I don't
go to bed with your makeup on. Sometimes sometimes I
just sweat it off and then I just sit in
the sweat and the whatever left of the makeup.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Like melted.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
But at least I'm not going to bed with beef
on my face like you.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Okay, you're it's you're the one, all right.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Coming up next, a little.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Bit more about that big cabinet meeting President had today
and his big interview with.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
ABC News from last night.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
We'll talk about that and we get into swamp watch
up next on Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
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