January 16, 2025 • 28 mins
Gary and Shannon are out and Mark Thompson and Marla Tellez fill in. Mark and Marla have updates on the Palisades/Eaton fire investigations, why wildfire ash doesn’t show up on air quality maps and State Farm to offer renewal for the policy holders affected by the fires.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Bill's leaving, We're coming in, and you know, you kind
of have a conversation with Bill and he always says
sort of stuff that is it's funny.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Well, I think it's what a lot of people are thinking,
but they wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Say, yeah, he's just there's no filter on Billy him.
Speaker 5 (00:24):
Zero filter.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
It's so funny.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
And it had to do with me being pregnant.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well, it's the thing that you find when you're pregnant.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Apparently I'm learning this from Marlow. You know, Marla is
expecting in March, March, March March.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
And what I'm learning from you is that people see
that you're pregnant and they react and sort of reflexibly
say something to you. And I think they're trying to
help or trying to contribute anyway to the joy, the journey,
the adventure, but oftentimes it lands awkwardly.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Well it's it's a whole whole lot of unsolicited advice,
that's one way to put it. They're trying to relate
and say, oh, yes, this and then you should this
is how you should raise your kid, or this is
how this is exactly what you should be feeling right now,
all of that. But you know, Bill didn't know I
was pregnant, So when I walked in, He's like, either
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you gained an obscene.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Amount of weight. That was a joke, kid, of course,
of course it was.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
But that was so so he a.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Bill was reacting in the you know, the initial way
that so many people that we're like kind of what
we're alluding to react when they see it. They go, oh, uh, wow,
you're pregnant. Gosh, it's like kind of late in life
to have ah yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, so yeah, he says, why in the world would
you be having a kid at your age, which I've.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Heard before and people that way say best wishes, Yeah, exactly, exciting.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Something and uh, he's not wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I mean, this is part of the the the what
we talked about obviously, my husband and I John, we
talked about this and this was supposed to happen years ago.
I mean, I can get into the whole story. I
don't know if you want to hear the whole story,
I don't think so. But bottom line is that it
happened now, and yes, I'm no spring chicken, but that's
what IVF is for, and it's it's.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
What we wanted and the other thing is And that's
why I think it's instructive just to hear you speak
about it, is that a lot of people are going
to the same thing making the decisions.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I've heard from so many couples who've reached out and said,
you know, am I too old?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
It's a personal decision and it's only you can make
that decision.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And for us, it was something again that we thought
long and hard about and now could not be more excited.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I have to say something, you know, because you hear
this a lot and just turned a little bit of
for the handle. You know, you're old, so you know,
because you're old, they're going to be you know, you'll
be old by the time the child.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
Is you know, you won't even be able to meet
your RANX. Yeah that's what he said, So play the
other end of that. Okay, So you have kids when
you're eighteen, nineteen, twenty, whatever, and you end up with
this argument people going, well, it's too bad that you
had kids so young, because it would have been nice
if you had enjoyed each other for a while and
enjoyed life for that twenty to thirty decade or whatever.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Again, neither's right, right, Sure one is right.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
But you can see both perspectives, and I think both
perspectives have merit.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
It's a complete lifestyle choice. Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
You know, I lived a lot in my twenties and thirties,
and you know here I am, and I had a
lot of good experiences and traveled and obviously worked a lot,
and now I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Well, i'd also say the wisdom of age helps you.
I think as a parent, I would think, Again, I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
I'll let you know.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah, we'll keep you updated.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Speaking of updates today, updating the wildfire situation that pressure
was would say there was some information the things that
people really want to know, And Marley was saying this earlier. Yeah,
we're just kind of talking off the air. The things
that people really want to know are associated with when
they can go back right to these evacuation.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Zones, because there are tens of thousands of people who
are still out of their homes right now.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Yeah. I don't know that question was really answered.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
No, So Ellie County Scheff Robert Luna.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
He said it's going to be at least a week
at least, we're at least a week out until people
can return home. And this is because I'm referring to
and he's referring to if you are in a current
evacuation zone, of course, and he talks about debris removal.
He talks about they're still coming through the properties and
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looking for human remains, God forbid.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
So it's a process that has to happen.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
There's hazardous materials and waste, hence the debris removal, So
it's going to be some time. But then Ellie County
Board Supervisor Catherine, of course, the board chair, she spoke
and she basically said that's basically not an that that
is an unacceptable timeline we had. She said, we haven't
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given the people a concrete date and they deserve that
because they're frustrated, they want to go home.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
They should have a better timeline.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
So she's pressing Unified Command to be able to pinpoint
a date of return.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, and I get that. There there's so many variables,
it's very hard to pin down a date. Perhaps, but
you do need to plan, you know, And so I
get that.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, I mean a lot of people are. They're staying
with friends, they're at hotels. It's it's like CouchSurfing all
over and at a moment's.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Notice, couch searching with a family. I mean, yeah, yeah, right.
Twenty five people are believed, as Marla was sort of saying,
believe to be dead. More than a dozen others remain
unaccounted for the Palace Age fire, twenty three seven hundred
and thirteen acres again, twenty two percent content, nine deaths
in that blaze, fifty three hundred and sixteen structors structures
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burned to the Eating fire in the San Gabriel Valley
fifty five percent contained fourteen thousand acres. Just over fourteen
thousand acres. Excuse me, I had a curb my throat.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
I'm here for you.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Approximately, yeah, just over seven thousand structures believe to be
damaged or destroyed, including vehicles at sixteen deaths, another and
five firefighter injuries in that fire as well.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
That's the Eating fire in San Gabriel Valley.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
And did you I'm sorry, did you go over the
Palisades fire?
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
We did the policyze so yeah, And as.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
A journalist though, and I know we can get lost
in the numbers and all of that. I if anyone
from cal Fire or La County Fire is listening right now,
there is a major discrepancy that is being reported and
we need to get to the bottom of it. And
this just has to do with structure loss, and maybe
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not to the average person, it doesn't matter, but I
do think it makes a significant difference.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
And what do I mean by this?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
That La County Fire Chief today and all along for
the last several days, has been reporting seven thousand plus
structures damaged or destroyed in the Eaten fire.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Seven thousand plus structures.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
We've been going with that number at Fox eleven, all
of the local stations have been as well in the
Parrot Palisades fire, fifty three hundred structures lost there. Well,
then when you go to cal Fire on the Incident
Command page, which we get a lot of our updates
from in terms of containment, those numbers are the same
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as CALF or as La County Fire, but their numbers
for structure loss are about half of what La County
Fire is reporting.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
So are there discrepancies here that have to be squared?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Those, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
But it's not one or two or a dozen.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
It's we're talking fifty percent, which is a significant difference.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Also, we'll get to.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
An emerging aspect of this fire in the aftermath, which
is the toxic ash in particulate matter.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
So we'll get to all of that as well.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
There are other things happening too, Middle East to a
piece deal appears to be shaky. We'll touch on that.
There's actually a lot going on today. We will continue.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Okay, so we're talking about the latest as it relates
to our wildfires. The other bit of good news that
we heard doesn't come as a huge surprise. But finally
most of the red easy for me to say red
flag warnings have expired. That second huge, big wind event
didn't materialize as terribly as anticipated. So no little to
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no new growth on both the Palisades and Eaten Fire.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
So that is great news.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
The only other thing to think about is come Monday,
there's another Santa Ana wind.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Event now the end of Tuesday. They say they were
saying that the press conference. It's funny I was thinking
as they were speaking and they were talking about the
fact and obviously, as Marla's just noted, the read well,
the wind event that was supposed to be bad, but
not quite as bad as the initial event didn't really
materialize it, and we spoke to him. We spoke to
a National Weather Service meteorologist who had sort of hipped
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us to the fact that it may not be quite
as bad as originally forecast. So in a way, even
the revised forecast didn't really.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Know because he gave it a nine versus a ten
last week.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Oh, is that right, he's about twenty percenty. Whatever the
however he computed it or calculated it or described it numerically,
it wasn't as bad. And I was thinking to myself,
I wonder if Karen Bass, who was so embattled. We
talked so much about her yesterday and I don't think
she'll survive this. But I wonder if she was thinking
to herself, you know, she's doing her own calculation, like, well,
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the forecast is bad, but forecasts sometimes can be wrong.
I'm going to take this trip to Africa and kind
of hope that this forecast isn't. Now I think that's
a bad don't get me wrong. Well, I was trying
to figure out how she somehow rationalized that trip to
Africa at a time when her community was likely imperiled
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by this major weather event.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
We live in southern California, So the red flag warnings
that people hear.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
That's that's all.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
They're common.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
They're common, very common.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
But what's not common when the forecast warning comes with
life threatening Well, and that's exactly what she heard before
she left.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Look at the wind velocities that were forecast eighty to
one hundred mile an hour winds. I mean, I had
not seen a forecast like that, and I was a forecaster. Okay, yeah,
this is in your wheelhouse. I hadn't seen anything like
that in years. And usually you see those wind velocities quoted,
and they're associated with mountain peaks where they're typically much
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higher winds, et cetera. But at sea level, they were
looking at wind velocities, forecast wind velocities in excess of
sixty and seventy miles an hour.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I mean, that is an alarming cast.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
So somebody either didn't communicate that to her, or she
didn't take it seriously, or she hoped it was wrong.
But whatever the breakdown was, it is unacceptable and I
think she'll pay a huge political price for it.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
How much credence do you put into the change dot
org petition that's demanding her resignation.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
It ain't a good thing. I'll tell you that. It
ain't a good thing.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
It seems to be sort of losing uh speed, though I.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Think it's because because because things lose visibility over over
the days.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Sure, sure, I mean I just I checked it this morning,
and yesterday it was at one hundred and forty three
thousand signatures. Today it's at one hundred and forty seven thousand,
So just four thousand people in the last twenty four
hours and needs to get up to one eighty for
it to really do something.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
And the drum beat to replace her or for her
to resign, it's going to fade over the days. And
I'm sure again in politics, you hope that you know
something else bumps it if you're apologic.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Hey, look at Kevin da leone perfect example. He waited
it out. I mean, he lost the election, but he
survived Initially.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
There is in the Altadena area concern about several things.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
First of all, the air is bad.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
The toxins that are suspended in the air really bad.
In fact, we're going to talk about that a little
bit later this hour with a doctor who is a
medical contributor I know over there with you at Fox eleven,
who will talk about the fact that there is ash
suspended in the air and it doesn't show up on
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air quality maps. So when you see these air quality
maps that you constantly see on local news, and you
know it's green, it's yellow, it's red, it looks green,
which is a lower level of particulate matter. But the
reality is it's not measuring a lot of the toxins
that are most dangerous.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, it's an interesting story because it's pretty deceiving when
we show you the air quality sensors in your area,
and by and large, despite the fires, despite the eating
and Palisades fires, it's currently reading at healthy or at
worst case moderate, and that's a green and yellow.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
It's not even in the unhealthy or hazardous.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
And doctor Michael Daniel he will join us coming up
because he's going to explain why that is why the
air quality sensors are showing green.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I mean, in a way I have to say, no offense,
but I would get rid of the air quality map
until it can I mean, in this case, it's giving
you almost a disinformation about these.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
I agree with you on that.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I one hundred percent agree with you, because if you're
even not even listening to you have the TV volume
turned off, and you see, oh it's good.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yes, exactly, And all the all the maps, all the apps, everything,
they all use the same information.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
And the air quality officials they actually held a webinar yesterday.
And I know doctor d I call him Doctor d
Danielle will get into this.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
They com bear this to the aftermath of nine to eleven.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yeah, that's precisely it.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
There are suspended materials, metallic substances in the air that
get deep into the lungs and can produce all kinds
of you know, awful health effects. We're talking fires in
this first hour, and some aspects of the fires that
are not maybe getting the attention that they should.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, in particular, the air quality out there, and are
we being deceived by the air quality sensors that all
the meteorologists show and right now they're showing good basically
good or moderate air quality, which okay, that sounds like
I can go outside. Let's talk more about this with
doctor Michael daniel He's an er doctor and he happens
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to be the Fox eleven medical contributor. I call him
Doctor d doctor d Good morning, thanks for being here.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Good morning, Mark and Marla.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
How are We're doing well?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
But we want to we're investigating these air quality sensors.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
What is the truth about our air quality right now?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And why do the sensors say that we have good
air quality?
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah, as you alluded to and as we discussed on
Fox eleven the other night, you know, when you look
across the board at the sensors, they're all green. But
what people need to know is that they don't measure
for a lot of things that we should be concerned about.
They check for ozone at the ground level, they check
for carbon monoxide, sodium dioxide, nitrogen dioxide, and then that
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particular matter. So that's the smoke from wildfires and things
like that. But when we look at the sheer amount
of buildings that have been destroyed twelve thousand plus, you
have to think about as bestosed in lead, especially in
those older buildings that were put up pre code, things
like volatile organic compounds, so that's burning plastics, fuels, household items,
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air conditioning, you know, even things like electric vehicles. All
that stuff is going to get in the air, and
that's not tested for in the AQI, And you know,
my concern is we're looking at a potential situation that
we had in New York, you know, Post nine to eleven,
where you know, first responders were exposed to a lot
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of carcinogens in the air, you know, right when it
happened and in the immediate aftermath of the cleanup in particular.
So you know, I just want people to be aware
that AQI, although useful, can be limited and falsely reassuring.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Right, That's what I was saying before, So it's misleading.
I mean, in a way, I wish they would suspend
posting those maps at least for the moment, until such
time as they can tweak these technologies so that they
can measure some of the stuff you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Can that be done?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
This might be a little out of your area, but
I mean you're a medical doctor, so you know, you
see what these substances do to the body. But I'm
wondering if the technology can be tweaked so they can
actually measure some of this stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah, no, good question. I've been doing some research and
that in particular because that question has come up from
our viewers and you know, friends of mine, and of
course coworkers and patients too, and you know, the index
as it is right now, it's very difficult to measure
lead and asbestos with like a commercial test. And so,
for example, the way that IQ Air works, which is
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the company that generates that map, is crowdsourcing these devices
that people have at home that you know, you hold
up into the air and they measure the five things,
the five common flutins we measure, but to measure lead
and asbestos, we don't yet have that type of commercial test.
It takes a very specific kind of filter and then
you have to you know, do the measurement in the lab.
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And so, you know, it'd be great if somebody could
innovate and come up with this, because it's going to
be an issue for the next days, weeks, and months
for all of us in southern Caliberlifornia, whether you're close
to the fire, you know, upwards to you know, about
fifty miles away, I would say, so that's really going
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to affect a broad swath of La County that's going
to need to be concerned about this for quite some time.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Well, it's got applicability beyond the southern California and California generally,
I mean, these fires and wildfires are affecting the west
in Canada. We've seen it in other countries as well.
So that technology, I mean, as you say, if it
can be innovated, it would have a lot of places
it could work.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
But in the meantime, with your I just want your
professional opinion. Do you think that meteorologists should stop showing
that map?
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Because what's the point?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Right?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
No, good point. I mean, you know some of that
we talked about. The one of the five pollutants is
the particulate matter. And if you look at the size
of lead and asbestos, it can be picked up by
the particular matter two point five particular matter keen, which
are the micrometers, and so those particular substances are within
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that range. But again it doesn't tell us is it
let is it as best those? Is it hydrocarbons? You know?
Is it carcinogens? And you may go outside and be like,
I don't smell any smoke. The air looks clean to me,
but you may be inhaling things that could cause you
trouble in the weeks to months ahead.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, and in terms of a timeline, and you sort
of just answered that, But do we have how long
will it take with all the cleanup for those toxins
to disintegrate, to to evaporate, evaporate.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, I was trying to come up with a way
to riskstratify for people, and I think, you know, the
two ways to look at this are time and distance
from the fire. And I think you know, the risk
over time obviously is going to go down as the
winds pick up and hopefully we get some rain. But
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I think you know, we're looking at weeks two months,
which still hide to marrow risk, particularly when particular matter
it gets resuspended during cleanup.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Sure, sure, and there's no way it needs to go
on for some time, yes, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
The building materials sort of being resuspended into the air,
that's going to be a contemporary concern. And you have
all those workers who they wear the masks, et cetera.
But they you know, they're obviously suffering the greatest risk.
That's what happened after nine to eleven. Right, it seems
like a troubling situation that has to be dealt with,
maybe a little more aggressively from the standpoint of talking
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about how much of this stuff, how much of this
in the way of toxicity is affecting us day to day.
I would say, even if you don't want to commit, doctor,
I would say they should stop showing those maps.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
I think it's deceiving the public.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Doctor d Mark was a forecaster for many, many years,
so he he would be up there right now, and
you'd be the one saying, well, I.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Would say, I don't think we should show them map.
That's what I would say. I mean, so, I don't know,
but I love that you've put it in some kind
of framework for us.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
And I think you've identified something else, which is hey,
it's it's one problem now, but the problem re emerges
in a way as the reconstruction begins, as as we build,
you know, back these communities.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
So thank you, doctor.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
All right, Doctor Michael daniel Er, doctor and medical contributor
at Fox eleven, thank you so much for joining on CAFI.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
A lot of Fox eleven. Of course, thank you.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
I'm a little biased.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
It's great my old stomping ground. I mean, if you
go to Fox eleven now, they used to have a
life sized statue of me in the lobby at Fox
a lot.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
We moved it into the newsroom.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Oh did you Yeah, because I heard that they'd put
it in storage, but it's nice that it's in the newsroom.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah, yesterday you heard Gary Hoffman. He called in from
his fantasy baseball camp in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Gary is living his best life. He really is a
shortstop and third base. Apparently, that's right. State Farm making
a major announcement. They have said they will offer renewals
to residential policy holders that are affected by the La
County fires. They had previously indicated to many of those
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policy holders that they would be dropped. This decision apparently
applies to policies held by homeowners and owners of rental
dwellings and residential community associations that include condo associations.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
The Department of Insurance said that among the thousands of
policies State Farm had targeted for non renewal, more than
seventy six hundred were in the Palisades fire zone. There
were also five hundred and twenty five more and San
Gabriel valleys eaten fire.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
So if your policy lapsed before January seventh, you're not
included in this. They're not like doubling back and saying, hey,
I know we canceled you, but you're going to be
now you're going to be covered. But they were saying, essentially,
if you got to notice saying we're going to cancel you,
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now we are not going to cancel you.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
That's nice of them.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
The pressure, I'm sure comes from the state. And you know,
the relationship between insurance companies in the state of California
is one in which the state has to approve their
rate high es et cetera. So I think there is
a dance that is done there.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, because we heard late last week when the insurance Commissioner,
Ricardo Lara, he came out and he had urged insurers
to suspend pending non renewals in both those fire zones,
and then he announced a moratorium on doing that. In fact,
he had expanded the boundaries of the moratorium he moratorium
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he issued last week that bars insurers from issuing new
cancelation or non renewal notices for one year.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, exactly, so precisely what Marla is saying that the
you know, if you had a non renewal pending, you
are then covered by this, But if you had a
non renewal already and they suspended your coverage, you're not
covered by this.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
How much is this all going to cost.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
The head of State Farm says it's too early to determine,
though at least one estimate has put them over two
hundred billion, which would exceed Hurricane Katrina and make it
the most expensive disaster in the nation's history.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Which is why these insurance companies are pulling out of
California because the price tags on many of these dwellings
that are covered.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Those price tags are enormous.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
This is some of the most expensive real estate in
the world, and so these insurance companies are taking a.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Big hit from this time, huge, huge hit covering them.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
In addition to that, State Farm also announcing that it
is canceling it's Super Bowl ad.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
The Super Bowl, of course, is less than a month away.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I believe February second, if my memory serves correct, it's
on our station.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
It's on Fox. But well it is what the day,
February ninth.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
February ninth, Thank you, Amy, It's you were close seven
days off.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Hear you should sit a week early. The pregame show
does start a week early. It does the thing about
State Farm Insurancemorrow. I don't know how much football you
watch or sports you watch, but certainly football. State Farm
is all over football like a bad smell. I mean,
you cannot find anything that doesn't have State Farm signage.
(25:35):
Those State Farm ads they use, the the athletes, they
you know, it's it's utterly ubiquitous.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Is everywhere? Is it?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Jake?
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Is that j sweet?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Jake? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
So but last year they're commercial their Super Bowl commercial
with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito. That one one USA
Today's annual Popularity Contract.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, that's where they vote for the most part popular
I think among the readership and the public.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Basically, they had planned something four February ninth, and they're.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Pulling that because they're getting a lot of pressure. I mean,
State Farm is in a tough spot, and insurance companies
are in a tough spot just generally because they are
there's some reputational damage to them as a result of
what's happening in California. Them pulling out of many of
these areas bad luck, right, and so there. It's interesting tho, though,
that it spills over even to their ad agency because
(26:27):
they've already baked this cake, they've already shot this spot.
You know, it's expensive. These are immensely costly, and yet
they're they're dropping it.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
So yeah, it says here they spent twenty three more
than twenty three million on national linear TV since January one.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Crazy and so super Bowl, of course biggest annual event,
and advertisers spend tremendously to both produce the spots and
then to put the spots there in the Super Bowl.
Don't look for that State Farm commercially. I know many
of you might have been looking forward to that State Farm.
It will not be but I'm sure Jake will still
be there and that halftime show sponsored by State Farm,
(27:08):
with all the signings for a State Farm, it'll all
be there. And by the way, it's not just State Farm,
you know all State Farmers. They're all over sporting events
as well. It's just a weird and by the way,
I think I posted on this it's optics. It's a
weird thing when you're in the middle of the fire
as we were last weekend, and you see these insurance
company adds everywhere about how we'll be there for you.
(27:29):
State Farm will be there. All you're in good hands
with all State Farmers is there for you.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
You know that guy who it sounds like you're the
guy the pipes.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
But the reality is, guys, you're not really there for us,
are you. We're living it. We're living the nightmare, absolutely
all right. Much to do as we continue, Gary and
Shannon Show, Mark Thompson along with Marletteus sitting in, and
we'll get to Alta. Dina talk to an Altadena resident
who lost his home in the Eaton fire next. It's
actually a remarkable story and we'll tell it next.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Bill's leaving, We're coming in, and you know, you kind
of have a conversation with Bill and he always says
sort of stuff that is it's funny.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Well, I think it's what a lot of people are thinking,
but they wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Say, yeah, he's just there's no filter on Billy him.
Speaker 5 (00:24):
Zero filter.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
It's so funny.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
And it had to do with me being pregnant.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well, it's the thing that you find when you're pregnant.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Apparently I'm learning this from Marlow. You know, Marla is
expecting in March, March, March March.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
And what I'm learning from you is that people see
that you're pregnant and they react and sort of reflexibly
say something to you. And I think they're trying to
help or trying to contribute anyway to the joy, the journey,
the adventure, but oftentimes it lands awkwardly.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Well it's it's a whole whole lot of unsolicited advice,
that's one way to put it. They're trying to relate
and say, oh, yes, this and then you should this
is how you should raise your kid, or this is
how this is exactly what you should be feeling right now,
all of that. But you know, Bill didn't know I
was pregnant, So when I walked in, He's like, either
(01:19):
you gained an obscene.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Amount of weight. That was a joke, kid, of course,
of course it was.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
But that was so so he a.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Bill was reacting in the you know, the initial way
that so many people that we're like kind of what
we're alluding to react when they see it. They go, oh, uh, wow,
you're pregnant. Gosh, it's like kind of late in life
to have ah yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, so yeah, he says, why in the world would
you be having a kid at your age, which I've.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Heard before and people that way say best wishes, Yeah, exactly, exciting.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Something and uh, he's not wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I mean, this is part of the the the what
we talked about obviously, my husband and I John, we
talked about this and this was supposed to happen years ago.
I mean, I can get into the whole story. I
don't know if you want to hear the whole story,
I don't think so. But bottom line is that it
happened now, and yes, I'm no spring chicken, but that's
what IVF is for, and it's it's.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
What we wanted and the other thing is And that's
why I think it's instructive just to hear you speak
about it, is that a lot of people are going
to the same thing making the decisions.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I've heard from so many couples who've reached out and said,
you know, am I too old?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
It's a personal decision and it's only you can make
that decision.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And for us, it was something again that we thought
long and hard about and now could not be more excited.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I have to say something, you know, because you hear
this a lot and just turned a little bit of
for the handle. You know, you're old, so you know,
because you're old, they're going to be you know, you'll
be old by the time the child.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
Is you know, you won't even be able to meet
your RANX. Yeah that's what he said, So play the
other end of that. Okay, So you have kids when
you're eighteen, nineteen, twenty, whatever, and you end up with
this argument people going, well, it's too bad that you
had kids so young, because it would have been nice
if you had enjoyed each other for a while and
enjoyed life for that twenty to thirty decade or whatever.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Again, neither's right, right, Sure one is right.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
But you can see both perspectives, and I think both
perspectives have merit.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
It's a complete lifestyle choice. Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
You know, I lived a lot in my twenties and thirties,
and you know here I am, and I had a
lot of good experiences and traveled and obviously worked a lot,
and now I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Well, i'd also say the wisdom of age helps you.
I think as a parent, I would think, Again, I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
I'll let you know.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah, we'll keep you updated.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Speaking of updates today, updating the wildfire situation that pressure
was would say there was some information the things that
people really want to know, And Marley was saying this earlier. Yeah,
we're just kind of talking off the air. The things
that people really want to know are associated with when
they can go back right to these evacuation.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Zones, because there are tens of thousands of people who
are still out of their homes right now.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Yeah. I don't know that question was really answered.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
No, So Ellie County Scheff Robert Luna.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
He said it's going to be at least a week
at least, we're at least a week out until people
can return home. And this is because I'm referring to
and he's referring to if you are in a current
evacuation zone, of course, and he talks about debris removal.
He talks about they're still coming through the properties and
(04:44):
looking for human remains, God forbid.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
So it's a process that has to happen.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
There's hazardous materials and waste, hence the debris removal, So
it's going to be some time. But then Ellie County
Board Supervisor Catherine, of course, the board chair, she spoke
and she basically said that's basically not an that that
is an unacceptable timeline we had. She said, we haven't
(05:10):
given the people a concrete date and they deserve that
because they're frustrated, they want to go home.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
They should have a better timeline.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
So she's pressing Unified Command to be able to pinpoint
a date of return.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, and I get that. There there's so many variables,
it's very hard to pin down a date. Perhaps, but
you do need to plan, you know, And so I
get that.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, I mean a lot of people are. They're staying
with friends, they're at hotels. It's it's like CouchSurfing all
over and at a moment's.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Notice, couch searching with a family. I mean, yeah, yeah, right.
Twenty five people are believed, as Marla was sort of saying,
believe to be dead. More than a dozen others remain
unaccounted for the Palace Age fire, twenty three seven hundred
and thirteen acres again, twenty two percent content, nine deaths
in that blaze, fifty three hundred and sixteen structors structures
(06:06):
burned to the Eating fire in the San Gabriel Valley
fifty five percent contained fourteen thousand acres. Just over fourteen
thousand acres. Excuse me, I had a curb my throat.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
I'm here for you.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Approximately, yeah, just over seven thousand structures believe to be
damaged or destroyed, including vehicles at sixteen deaths, another and
five firefighter injuries in that fire as well.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
That's the Eating fire in San Gabriel Valley.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
And did you I'm sorry, did you go over the
Palisades fire?
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
We did the policyze so yeah, And as.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
A journalist though, and I know we can get lost
in the numbers and all of that. I if anyone
from cal Fire or La County Fire is listening right now,
there is a major discrepancy that is being reported and
we need to get to the bottom of it. And
this just has to do with structure loss, and maybe
(07:02):
not to the average person, it doesn't matter, but I
do think it makes a significant difference.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
And what do I mean by this?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
That La County Fire Chief today and all along for
the last several days, has been reporting seven thousand plus
structures damaged or destroyed in the Eaten fire.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Seven thousand plus structures.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
We've been going with that number at Fox eleven, all
of the local stations have been as well in the
Parrot Palisades fire, fifty three hundred structures lost there. Well,
then when you go to cal Fire on the Incident
Command page, which we get a lot of our updates
from in terms of containment, those numbers are the same
(07:40):
as CALF or as La County Fire, but their numbers
for structure loss are about half of what La County
Fire is reporting.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
So are there discrepancies here that have to be squared?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Those, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
But it's not one or two or a dozen.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
It's we're talking fifty percent, which is a significant difference.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Also, we'll get to.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
An emerging aspect of this fire in the aftermath, which
is the toxic ash in particulate matter.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
So we'll get to all of that as well.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
There are other things happening too, Middle East to a
piece deal appears to be shaky. We'll touch on that.
There's actually a lot going on today. We will continue.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Okay, so we're talking about the latest as it relates
to our wildfires. The other bit of good news that
we heard doesn't come as a huge surprise. But finally
most of the red easy for me to say red
flag warnings have expired. That second huge, big wind event
didn't materialize as terribly as anticipated. So no little to
(08:38):
no new growth on both the Palisades and Eaten Fire.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
So that is great news.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
The only other thing to think about is come Monday,
there's another Santa Ana wind.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Event now the end of Tuesday. They say they were
saying that the press conference. It's funny I was thinking
as they were speaking and they were talking about the
fact and obviously, as Marla's just noted, the read well,
the wind event that was supposed to be bad, but
not quite as bad as the initial event didn't really
materialize it, and we spoke to him. We spoke to
a National Weather Service meteorologist who had sort of hipped
(09:10):
us to the fact that it may not be quite
as bad as originally forecast. So in a way, even
the revised forecast didn't really.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Know because he gave it a nine versus a ten
last week.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Oh, is that right, he's about twenty percenty. Whatever the
however he computed it or calculated it or described it numerically,
it wasn't as bad. And I was thinking to myself,
I wonder if Karen Bass, who was so embattled. We
talked so much about her yesterday and I don't think
she'll survive this. But I wonder if she was thinking
to herself, you know, she's doing her own calculation, like, well,
(09:48):
the forecast is bad, but forecasts sometimes can be wrong.
I'm going to take this trip to Africa and kind
of hope that this forecast isn't. Now I think that's
a bad don't get me wrong. Well, I was trying
to figure out how she somehow rationalized that trip to
Africa at a time when her community was likely imperiled
(10:09):
by this major weather event.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
We live in southern California, So the red flag warnings
that people hear.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
That's that's all.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
They're common.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
They're common, very common.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
But what's not common when the forecast warning comes with
life threatening Well, and that's exactly what she heard before
she left.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Look at the wind velocities that were forecast eighty to
one hundred mile an hour winds. I mean, I had
not seen a forecast like that, and I was a forecaster. Okay, yeah,
this is in your wheelhouse. I hadn't seen anything like
that in years. And usually you see those wind velocities quoted,
and they're associated with mountain peaks where they're typically much
(10:48):
higher winds, et cetera. But at sea level, they were
looking at wind velocities, forecast wind velocities in excess of
sixty and seventy miles an hour.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I mean, that is an alarming cast.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
So somebody either didn't communicate that to her, or she
didn't take it seriously, or she hoped it was wrong.
But whatever the breakdown was, it is unacceptable and I
think she'll pay a huge political price for it.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
How much credence do you put into the change dot
org petition that's demanding her resignation.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
It ain't a good thing. I'll tell you that. It
ain't a good thing.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
It seems to be sort of losing uh speed, though I.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Think it's because because because things lose visibility over over
the days.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Sure, sure, I mean I just I checked it this morning,
and yesterday it was at one hundred and forty three
thousand signatures. Today it's at one hundred and forty seven thousand,
So just four thousand people in the last twenty four
hours and needs to get up to one eighty for
it to really do something.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
And the drum beat to replace her or for her
to resign, it's going to fade over the days. And
I'm sure again in politics, you hope that you know
something else bumps it if you're apologic.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Hey, look at Kevin da leone perfect example. He waited
it out. I mean, he lost the election, but he
survived Initially.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
There is in the Altadena area concern about several things.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
First of all, the air is bad.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
The toxins that are suspended in the air really bad.
In fact, we're going to talk about that a little
bit later this hour with a doctor who is a
medical contributor I know over there with you at Fox eleven,
who will talk about the fact that there is ash
suspended in the air and it doesn't show up on
(12:41):
air quality maps. So when you see these air quality
maps that you constantly see on local news, and you
know it's green, it's yellow, it's red, it looks green,
which is a lower level of particulate matter. But the
reality is it's not measuring a lot of the toxins
that are most dangerous.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, it's an interesting story because it's pretty deceiving when
we show you the air quality sensors in your area,
and by and large, despite the fires, despite the eating
and Palisades fires, it's currently reading at healthy or at
worst case moderate, and that's a green and yellow.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
It's not even in the unhealthy or hazardous.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
And doctor Michael Daniel he will join us coming up
because he's going to explain why that is why the
air quality sensors are showing green.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I mean, in a way I have to say, no offense,
but I would get rid of the air quality map
until it can I mean, in this case, it's giving
you almost a disinformation about these.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
I agree with you on that.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I one hundred percent agree with you, because if you're
even not even listening to you have the TV volume
turned off, and you see, oh it's good.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yes, exactly, And all the all the maps, all the apps, everything,
they all use the same information.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
And the air quality officials they actually held a webinar yesterday.
And I know doctor d I call him Doctor d
Danielle will get into this.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
They com bear this to the aftermath of nine to eleven.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yeah, that's precisely it.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
There are suspended materials, metallic substances in the air that
get deep into the lungs and can produce all kinds
of you know, awful health effects. We're talking fires in
this first hour, and some aspects of the fires that
are not maybe getting the attention that they should.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, in particular, the air quality out there, and are
we being deceived by the air quality sensors that all
the meteorologists show and right now they're showing good basically
good or moderate air quality, which okay, that sounds like
I can go outside. Let's talk more about this with
doctor Michael daniel He's an er doctor and he happens
(14:51):
to be the Fox eleven medical contributor. I call him
Doctor d doctor d Good morning, thanks for being here.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Good morning, Mark and Marla.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
How are We're doing well?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
But we want to we're investigating these air quality sensors.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
What is the truth about our air quality right now?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And why do the sensors say that we have good
air quality?
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah, as you alluded to and as we discussed on
Fox eleven the other night, you know, when you look
across the board at the sensors, they're all green. But
what people need to know is that they don't measure
for a lot of things that we should be concerned about.
They check for ozone at the ground level, they check
for carbon monoxide, sodium dioxide, nitrogen dioxide, and then that
(15:34):
particular matter. So that's the smoke from wildfires and things
like that. But when we look at the sheer amount
of buildings that have been destroyed twelve thousand plus, you
have to think about as bestosed in lead, especially in
those older buildings that were put up pre code, things
like volatile organic compounds, so that's burning plastics, fuels, household items,
(15:57):
air conditioning, you know, even things like electric vehicles. All
that stuff is going to get in the air, and
that's not tested for in the AQI, And you know,
my concern is we're looking at a potential situation that
we had in New York, you know, Post nine to eleven,
where you know, first responders were exposed to a lot
(16:17):
of carcinogens in the air, you know, right when it
happened and in the immediate aftermath of the cleanup in particular.
So you know, I just want people to be aware
that AQI, although useful, can be limited and falsely reassuring.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Right, That's what I was saying before, So it's misleading.
I mean, in a way, I wish they would suspend
posting those maps at least for the moment, until such
time as they can tweak these technologies so that they
can measure some of the stuff you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Can that be done?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
This might be a little out of your area, but
I mean you're a medical doctor, so you know, you
see what these substances do to the body. But I'm
wondering if the technology can be tweaked so they can
actually measure some of this stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah, no, good question. I've been doing some research and
that in particular because that question has come up from
our viewers and you know, friends of mine, and of
course coworkers and patients too, and you know, the index
as it is right now, it's very difficult to measure
lead and asbestos with like a commercial test. And so,
for example, the way that IQ Air works, which is
(17:25):
the company that generates that map, is crowdsourcing these devices
that people have at home that you know, you hold
up into the air and they measure the five things,
the five common flutins we measure, but to measure lead
and asbestos, we don't yet have that type of commercial test.
It takes a very specific kind of filter and then
you have to you know, do the measurement in the lab.
(17:47):
And so, you know, it'd be great if somebody could
innovate and come up with this, because it's going to
be an issue for the next days, weeks, and months
for all of us in southern Caliberlifornia, whether you're close
to the fire, you know, upwards to you know, about
fifty miles away, I would say, so that's really going
(18:07):
to affect a broad swath of La County that's going
to need to be concerned about this for quite some time.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Well, it's got applicability beyond the southern California and California generally,
I mean, these fires and wildfires are affecting the west
in Canada. We've seen it in other countries as well.
So that technology, I mean, as you say, if it
can be innovated, it would have a lot of places
it could work.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
But in the meantime, with your I just want your
professional opinion. Do you think that meteorologists should stop showing
that map?
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Because what's the point?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Right?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
No, good point. I mean, you know some of that
we talked about. The one of the five pollutants is
the particulate matter. And if you look at the size
of lead and asbestos, it can be picked up by
the particular matter two point five particular matter keen, which
are the micrometers, and so those particular substances are within
(18:57):
that range. But again it doesn't tell us is it
let is it as best those? Is it hydrocarbons? You know?
Is it carcinogens? And you may go outside and be like,
I don't smell any smoke. The air looks clean to me,
but you may be inhaling things that could cause you
trouble in the weeks to months ahead.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, and in terms of a timeline, and you sort
of just answered that, But do we have how long
will it take with all the cleanup for those toxins
to disintegrate, to to evaporate, evaporate.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, I was trying to come up with a way
to riskstratify for people, and I think, you know, the
two ways to look at this are time and distance
from the fire. And I think you know, the risk
over time obviously is going to go down as the
winds pick up and hopefully we get some rain. But
(19:56):
I think you know, we're looking at weeks two months,
which still hide to marrow risk, particularly when particular matter
it gets resuspended during cleanup.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Sure, sure, and there's no way it needs to go
on for some time, yes, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
The building materials sort of being resuspended into the air,
that's going to be a contemporary concern. And you have
all those workers who they wear the masks, et cetera.
But they you know, they're obviously suffering the greatest risk.
That's what happened after nine to eleven. Right, it seems
like a troubling situation that has to be dealt with,
maybe a little more aggressively from the standpoint of talking
(20:33):
about how much of this stuff, how much of this
in the way of toxicity is affecting us day to day.
I would say, even if you don't want to commit, doctor,
I would say they should stop showing those maps.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
I think it's deceiving the public.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Doctor d Mark was a forecaster for many, many years,
so he he would be up there right now, and
you'd be the one saying, well, I.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Would say, I don't think we should show them map.
That's what I would say. I mean, so, I don't know,
but I love that you've put it in some kind
of framework for us.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
And I think you've identified something else, which is hey,
it's it's one problem now, but the problem re emerges
in a way as the reconstruction begins, as as we build,
you know, back these communities.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
So thank you, doctor.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
All right, Doctor Michael daniel Er, doctor and medical contributor
at Fox eleven, thank you so much for joining on CAFI.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
A lot of Fox eleven. Of course, thank you.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
I'm a little biased.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
It's great my old stomping ground. I mean, if you
go to Fox eleven now, they used to have a
life sized statue of me in the lobby at Fox
a lot.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
We moved it into the newsroom.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Oh did you Yeah, because I heard that they'd put
it in storage, but it's nice that it's in the newsroom.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah, yesterday you heard Gary Hoffman. He called in from
his fantasy baseball camp in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Gary is living his best life. He really is a
shortstop and third base. Apparently, that's right. State Farm making
a major announcement. They have said they will offer renewals
to residential policy holders that are affected by the La
County fires. They had previously indicated to many of those
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policy holders that they would be dropped. This decision apparently
applies to policies held by homeowners and owners of rental
dwellings and residential community associations that include condo associations.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
The Department of Insurance said that among the thousands of
policies State Farm had targeted for non renewal, more than
seventy six hundred were in the Palisades fire zone. There
were also five hundred and twenty five more and San
Gabriel valleys eaten fire.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
So if your policy lapsed before January seventh, you're not
included in this. They're not like doubling back and saying, hey,
I know we canceled you, but you're going to be
now you're going to be covered. But they were saying, essentially,
if you got to notice saying we're going to cancel you,
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now we are not going to cancel you.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
That's nice of them.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
The pressure, I'm sure comes from the state. And you know,
the relationship between insurance companies in the state of California
is one in which the state has to approve their
rate high es et cetera. So I think there is
a dance that is done there.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, because we heard late last week when the insurance Commissioner,
Ricardo Lara, he came out and he had urged insurers
to suspend pending non renewals in both those fire zones,
and then he announced a moratorium on doing that. In fact,
he had expanded the boundaries of the moratorium he moratorium
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he issued last week that bars insurers from issuing new
cancelation or non renewal notices for one year.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, exactly, so precisely what Marla is saying that the
you know, if you had a non renewal pending, you
are then covered by this, But if you had a
non renewal already and they suspended your coverage, you're not
covered by this.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
How much is this all going to cost.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
The head of State Farm says it's too early to determine,
though at least one estimate has put them over two
hundred billion, which would exceed Hurricane Katrina and make it
the most expensive disaster in the nation's history.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Which is why these insurance companies are pulling out of
California because the price tags on many of these dwellings
that are covered.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Those price tags are enormous.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
This is some of the most expensive real estate in
the world, and so these insurance companies are taking a.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Big hit from this time, huge, huge hit covering them.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
In addition to that, State Farm also announcing that it
is canceling it's Super Bowl ad.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
The Super Bowl, of course, is less than a month away.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I believe February second, if my memory serves correct, it's
on our station.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
It's on Fox. But well it is what the day,
February ninth.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
February ninth, Thank you, Amy, It's you were close seven
days off.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Hear you should sit a week early. The pregame show
does start a week early. It does the thing about
State Farm Insurancemorrow. I don't know how much football you
watch or sports you watch, but certainly football. State Farm
is all over football like a bad smell. I mean,
you cannot find anything that doesn't have State Farm signage.
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Those State Farm ads they use, the the athletes, they
you know, it's it's utterly ubiquitous.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Is everywhere? Is it?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Jake?
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Is that j sweet?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Jake? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
So but last year they're commercial their Super Bowl commercial
with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito. That one one USA
Today's annual Popularity Contract.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, that's where they vote for the most part popular
I think among the readership and the public.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Basically, they had planned something four February ninth, and they're.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Pulling that because they're getting a lot of pressure. I mean,
State Farm is in a tough spot, and insurance companies
are in a tough spot just generally because they are
there's some reputational damage to them as a result of
what's happening in California. Them pulling out of many of
these areas bad luck, right, and so there. It's interesting tho, though,
that it spills over even to their ad agency because
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they've already baked this cake, they've already shot this spot.
You know, it's expensive. These are immensely costly, and yet
they're they're dropping it.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
So yeah, it says here they spent twenty three more
than twenty three million on national linear TV since January one.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Crazy and so super Bowl, of course biggest annual event,
and advertisers spend tremendously to both produce the spots and
then to put the spots there in the Super Bowl.
Don't look for that State Farm commercially. I know many
of you might have been looking forward to that State Farm.
It will not be but I'm sure Jake will still
be there and that halftime show sponsored by State Farm,
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with all the signings for a State Farm, it'll all
be there. And by the way, it's not just State Farm,
you know all State Farmers. They're all over sporting events
as well. It's just a weird and by the way,
I think I posted on this it's optics. It's a
weird thing when you're in the middle of the fire
as we were last weekend, and you see these insurance
company adds everywhere about how we'll be there for you.
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State Farm will be there. All you're in good hands
with all State Farmers is there for you.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
You know that guy who it sounds like you're the
guy the pipes.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
But the reality is, guys, you're not really there for us,
are you. We're living it. We're living the nightmare, absolutely
all right. Much to do as we continue, Gary and
Shannon Show, Mark Thompson along with Marletteus sitting in, and
we'll get to Alta. Dina talk to an Altadena resident
who lost his home in the Eaton fire next. It's
actually a remarkable story and we'll tell it next.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
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