December 11, 2025 • 31 mins
Gary & Shannon kick off with #SwampWatch, tackling the growing affordability crisis and how Democrats may use economic frustration as a weapon in the 2026 midterms — while questioning whether the media is downplaying how tough things really feel.
They then check in with Heather Brooker and Michael Monks, reporting live from the iHeart holiday party that Gary & Shannon are, once again, missing out on.
Marc Saltzman joins for #TechTalk to break down Time’s Person of the Year — the Architects of AI — and why their innovations are reshaping the future.
The hour closes with a look at why so many people find unexpected comfort in the Forensic Files podcast, thanks in part to narrator Peter Thomas’s calming voice.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Don't look now, but the Oklahoma City Thunder might be
the best basketball team in the history of the game.
But they are twenty four and one. They beat the
Phoenix Suns yesterday by thirty eight forty nine points. It
was one hundred and thirty eight to eighty nine. The Warriors,
of course, set the record in a regular season with
(00:31):
seventy three wins. That beat the Bulls from ninety six.
They won seventy two games, of course with Michael Jordan.
But the Oklahoma City Thunder right now, that's hot.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
How many games in the NBA season eighty two? Okay,
twenty four and one. Wow, that's incredible. That seems like
it's who plays for Oklahoma City.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
You know the guys that the Thunder, That's who plays
for them. Thank you me asking me about basketball?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Oh, Jaylen Williams, I don't know why am I asking
me about basketball? For swamp more that I don't know
an think about.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar. And
when I'm not kissing babies. I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Here we got the real problem is that our leaders are.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Gone on the other side, never quits.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
So what I'm not going anywhere, So that now you
train the.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Swap, I can imagine what can be and be unburdened
by what has been.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
You Knowervans have always been going at president. They're not stupid.
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Whether people voted for you were not.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Swamp watch.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
They're all counter knowing well. A new poll comes out
shows the president's not getting great numbers when it comes
to his handling of the economy. This is the ap
nork Pole that came out for the month of December.
Thirty one percent of people say they approve of the
way the president is handling economic leadership. Results are obviously
(01:57):
along partisan lines. It's about seventy percent of Republicans like
the way he's handling the economy. Seven percent of Democrats
like it. That's down from about thirty three percent in November,
was about forty percent for the month of March. We
played it for you earlier this week. In this interview
(02:19):
with Politico, he said that the economy is a plus
plus plus plus, and that's going to be his stump
speech basically as we get to you know, the eleven
month countdown to the midterms, is that he wants this
to be an economic a referendum on the economy. But
(02:39):
he's going to have to do better at convincing people
that prices are going down, that inflation is going down
because he's not shopping at the grocery store.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
They are exactly. Just saying so does not make it true.
He is blaming Joe Biden for the affordability concerns, and
like we've talked about repeatedly, no single president is to
blame for the economy any particular day.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
That's just that's not how the world works.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But when you kind of get into the weeds of
why the affordability crisis is what it is, there's enough
blame to go around for both Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
They both made policy decisions that affected consumer costs. You've
got the Trump tariffs that really did rattle supply chains,
or the stimulus that Biden pumped into the economy just
(03:29):
as it was coming out of the pandemic. But the
prices those are not set by presidents. We talked about
this a little bit yesterday in terms of what is
the business community's fault in all of this. The businesses
set the price is sometimes set by you know, through
negotiations with customers or what have you.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
You have, of course, supply and demand.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
If you want to go back to junior year in
high school, you know, more demand and less supply, you
get higher prices. We saw a lot of that during
the pandemic when we had the boats stuck offshore. But
obviously the presidents, for better or for worse, and get
stuck with the credit or the blame in this situation.
But the business cycle and inflation in the cycle are
(04:12):
outside of the realm and the control of the president.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I mean, he has said, he has said things, and
he's made requests of business owners and businesses in general
saying that he wants them to do what they can
to keep prices down. But he they're out. Like you said,
he doesn't have the actual control. It's not a federal
agency that controls the price of beef.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
For example, Economists say the worst of inflation under Biden
was mostly gone by the time Trump took office this year,
and that doesn't really mean anything because you know, the
economy takes some time to the dust to settle right
and to figure out where you're at. But the worst
of the inflation was gone. The nine point one percent
year over year rise and prices that happened during Biden's
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term had fallen to three percent by January of twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
So I don't know if this is I don't know
if this turns around in time. I mean, there are
enough indicators. The Fed Reserve chair also suggested that the
federal government hasn't been reporting jobless numbers accurately, that we
may be under reporting how bad the economy actually is.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Rising housing is another problem that took root, they say,
in the bursting of the housing bubble back in two
thousand and seven. That caused obviously the Great Recession. Fewer homes,
fewer apartments built, and then that kind of lingered for
a while. Most estimates are that we currently have an
undersupply of between three million to five million housing units.
(05:42):
You can't blame either administration for that. That's just again
dust settling from back in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
The economy, rising cost of living, and healthcare costs. Those
three things are the top three issues that voters have
said that they and the numbers somewhere around seven percent.
If you just took those three, seventy percent of voters
say they'll make decisions based on higher cost of living,
the economy, and healthcare prices over the course of the
(06:10):
next several months. Short part of that is that Senate yesterday,
sorry this morning, failed to advance two competing health care proposals.
They're trying to get something in place because of the
Affordable Care Act tax credits that will expire right at
the beginning of the year. One of these plans was
(06:31):
put forward by Democrats, the other was reported put to
forth by Republicans. Neither of them got the sixty votes
that are needed. So there's only a few days left
in the congressional session for them to try to figure
something out before it comes crashing down. And it's going
to be a massive headline at the beginning of the
year if people are forced to play pay full price
(06:52):
once again for those Affordable Care Act plans.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
All right, Gary and Shanna will continue.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I'm going to go hide the stuff that I broke
cool while we were hunting for elves.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Just better just gonna throw it away, pretend to throw
that away. It's too big.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Management's here, let's go.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
He doesn't know, he doesn't.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Know, Gary party, Gary Shannon will continue.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
A M six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Steelers and the Ravens in a battle for that AFC North. Uh,
just a game back. The Ravens are from the Steelers.
A loss of TJ Watt would be huge.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
What would happen? What kind of lung nager?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Is it like a Tyrod tayloratuation?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I don't know, Yeah, to alleviate maybe something, some pain
and they go in and they hit the lung instead.
Isn't that what exactly what happened to Tyrod Taylor?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It sounds like it. Yeah, well, today is the day.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Today is the day.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Today is the day of the Hollow. They party off
and like we said before, it's not open to us.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
No, they schedule these things every time when we're on
the air. And it sounded like fun, Like there's an
open bar. That sounded like fun karaoke. We could have
killed it with Islands in the Stream or Leather and Lace,
or maybe don't don't go Break in My Heart with
Kiki d I could be Kiki d just throwing that
out there.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
But nothing holiday themed.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Oh we could, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I'm not shutting the door on jingle bell rock like
Christmas and Harlem. Can you imagine the choreo that we
could provide.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I can't imagine that, girl, now that you mentioned it, No,
I can't.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Peak holiday party choreoek is what we would have provided.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I would wear the heels that you're wearing, and I
cannot do that.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I'd a great backup to answer, I don't think your
foot would fit. Do you want to try?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I would split those things.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Oh yeah, you'd.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Split them with your feet. I've seen your feet. Yeah,
they're polite feet. They're not getting light feet there, They're
not monster's feet.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Look like I was baking bread.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
My husband has the foot of a monster.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
What does that mean? He has a lovely thing to
say he has monster feet. They look like like if
Fred Flintstone had no shoes, which I don't think he does.
He does not have shoes like I don't know. My brother,
same thing, monster's feet. He has the foot of a monster.
Your feet are nice and polite. I appreciate all of
(09:34):
what you've just said. I do, and I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Michael Monks works for KFI News, as does Heather Brookers.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Oh they're at the party.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Two of them are at this party that is upstairs
from us. All right, what's going on you guys? I
don't hear them, Elmer.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Do we not get a phone that works?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
We has this radio station funneled all.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Hear you here?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Michael, Yeah, I'll they can hear me, but not Heather.
I'm sitting next to Paul Orbino.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Who's our boss.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Love your work, sir, Merry Christmas to you.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
He doesn't know who you are, not at all.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
So we're just harmonized and were vocalizing.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, hearing for our paradise. Yeah, actually not a Christmas.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
But this audio is awful.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
We're right the open balk.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Are you holding the phone to your face? Oh my god,
it's my ear?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Is it not good radio?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, you're a radio station. We'll find some. Actually, go
outside on the balcony and tell us what is my god?
We'll come back to them.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Don't put your freaking air pods in. Get on the
damn phone.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Sorry. Michael Clark, gosh, I.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Know I was Michael Clark. That was vintage Michael Clark
right there.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
That was.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
There were no air pods when he was there.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
There were, but you imagic.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Oh boy, so we know what the drink menu is
and there is the legit. Tell me, tell me about
the drink menu. Winter Wonderland is one of yes, it
is not even now on a Thursday, not not the ones.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Windger Wonderland is white Russian cut waters, cut water, I guess,
vodka and coffee cream liqueur.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
That sounds like the bathrooms are going to be stopped
up for a while.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
This is frosty frequency. Frizz is a cranberry seltzer with
vodka ortice. That sounds shoes stas. How are the pores
up there? Tequila, orange juice and grenadine like a dog
cast you know what that means. Spiked eggnog, a radio
reindeer mocktail, which is cranberry orange and sparkling water, and
then a selection of wine, beer and soda as well.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Okay, guys, how is the poor going on for these drinks?
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Has anyone ordered a drink?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Okay? Can you there's a lot of people that are
ordering drinks, could you guys? Hear me?
Speaker 7 (11:54):
Okay, much better?
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Very clear?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Okay, great?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Got you?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Okay, So there's actually a lot of activity at the
bar at eleven o'clock on a Thursday.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, when the company's paying for it.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Sick.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
So that's where I'm at right now. You're right. I
heard you listening to some of the drinks. Some of
the most popular ones seem to be the Winter Wonderland
and the Santa's sound Wave. A little nod to audio.
A lot of people are hitting up this massive Sharkterie table.
That's the table scape, if you will. We've got honey,
We've got cheese, cucumbers. Ellen k just walks through whenever
(12:29):
I'm not excited.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Oh my god, heard this here?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
So pretty. Sandy Seck is here from Coast FM. Hi,
we're live on KFI A and Lucari and Shannon. How
are you feeling about the holidays? I am feeling great
and I'm feeling even better because there are free food
and drinks here.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I'm a fan.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Right, So you what sweaters do you see? Do you
see any sweaters that are captivating?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Not so far, to be honest, A lot of the
sweaters and a lot of the h fashion is a
little bland, a little dry. I think people are a
little scared to step outside their comfort zone. Just want
a navy. He's got a graves a lot of black.
Allan k is wearing like a navy, just like button down.
I'm forse wearing my irma gird shirt. So here's one
(13:16):
thing I want to tell you guys about this whole party.
If there's multiple locations that are happening. So there's one
area is the food and duram sharkcootering and dreams. There's
another area that's like, uh decorating, Yeah, the sharkash.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
How sweaty is that area?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
How sweaty is that meat?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
All right? Oh, it's so sweaty. Yeah, it's definitely sweating.
It's definite swearing. It's a little wet. You can see it.
I mean, I'm still going to get after it because
I'm a reporter and I dive dive into my story.
And then there's a whole room in here where you
can like win prizes, just like a raffle. I see
Brian Long, our program director, walking in there is gonna
(13:53):
put it kicking in to win some prizes. I'm I'm
a little surprise there aren't more people here. Maybe they're
just slowly coming in. You can hear the music is
a little a little fester the confessors music I fully expect, Like,
where's Ariana Grande? Where is the major music stars from
(14:14):
iHeartRadio that are going to need coming in Serenadia?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
You know that they don't actually work here, right?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
That they could come and party with us. Where's Ellen?
Speaker 8 (14:25):
Say hello?
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Yeah, let's say hello to Ellen. I'd love to.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Oh, okay, she's very busy.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Oh, Dave, tell Dave Wes to take a hip.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I am Ellen. I'm live right now, KFI Garian Channon
would love to say hello. They couldn't come up because
they're working. But can they say hello? Really? Of course?
Speaker 7 (14:45):
Why?
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Oh my god, we saw you on TV. Look beautiful, No.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
It's us. We're on the air right now.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
We're on the air.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Were you can't come up the staircase?
Speaker 5 (14:59):
No job here?
Speaker 3 (15:01):
We can I bring you anything? I could bring you
food or there's a shark.
Speaker 7 (15:05):
Gutory, You're so sweet? See open bar.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Why can't we work with Ellen every day? She's so
much nicer than the other people down here. Ellen, Thank you,
we love you. We had to talk to you during
the holidays because it's not the holidays without a little
dose of ellen k and so thank you for jumping on.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
We appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I wish you would come up and party. You work
too much, I know, I know, well, thank you have fun.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Thank you for Christmas is a k ry Christmas.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I love her.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
All right, you guys, just so you know, I'll be
here for you all day, all during the Gary Ken
Show reporting live. If you mean me, I will be
at the bar.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Are you gonna sing karaoke?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
You know what? I want to? But I don't see
where the karaoke room is. Oh wait, maybe I've just
found it. No, that's a photo there's a photo area.
You're okay, we'll check.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
We'll check back in with you in an hour. And
we want to hear what's going going on, and maybe
sign up for karaoke because that would bring the house down.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I definitely am a feeling things are going to keep
ramping up, so let's do.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
That, all right, Gary and Shannon will continue Heather Brookers
live at our holiday party without us.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
The Pacific Northwest has just been getting hit with ridiculous
amounts of rain. They have had several smaller towns in
and around the peninsula, the Olympic Peninsula that have been
closed down. Governor Bob Ferguson of Washington declared an emergency.
He is predicting that as many as one hundred thousand
people could be forced to evacuate from their homes as
(16:42):
a result of all of this. There was a little
earthquake about an hour ago. We didn't feel it here,
but it was about a three point three they said,
centered in fillmore so, anywhere from say Santa Barbara to
Santa Clarita, you may have felt that. Ventura Oxnard ha
said it was about ten thirty and again it was
about to three point three on Thursdays.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
One of my friends sext to me that she was
in the car with her mom and her mom's significant
other and they were talking about the big one coming,
and that was about an hour ago.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
This wasn't the big one.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
No, it was a three point too, but it could
be a precursor.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
It could be a pre shock pre shocked. Thursday's right now,
we talk about tech. The machines are getting smarter.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
This is tech Talk, brought to you by Skynet.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Mark Saltzman joins us and Mark it is the holiday season,
and we'll look at that AI making a name for itself,
the Architects of AI being named the person of the
Year for Time magazine in twenty twenty five, Disney and Best.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
No, I'm not. I'm surprised it wasn't three years ago,
but it would.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
Be ironic if Time crowned AI as the person of
the year since it's artificial intelligence, but it's the architects
of AI is really what they're shining a light on.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
So yeah, so.
Speaker 8 (18:02):
Folks like Jensen Huang or Wong, however you like to
pronounce it. The head of Nvidia, I think, eighth richest
person on the planet and behind the company that is
the first the world's first five trillion dollar company, and
VideA as well as on the cover there's Elon Musk
and Sam Altman from Open Ai and Zuckerberg of course
from Meta.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
So yeah, they're acknowledging that the world.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
Has significantly changed in twenty twenty five with almost a
billion people using AI. Now that's like one eighth of
the world's entire population, leveraging tools like Chat, GPT, Google, Gemini,
Grock and so on. To get work done. Come, yeah,
I don't know, right right, write their bosses convincing emails
(18:46):
on why they can't show up to work. I don't
know what they're using it for.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Aren't we Still I find myself trying to make sure
that I'm not using AI. I'm looking for a search
into different you know, in any sort of browser. I'm
trying to Well, you're the one. Well, I understand the
what's the word nvenience? The convenience, great word. I understand
the convenience of it. But I don't want to give
(19:09):
AI any more speed than it's already gotten. Yeah, and
granted me one out of like you mentioned, one out
of a billion people who's not using it isn't going
to slow it down very much.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
So look, I mean search engines have evolved now, both
being in Google where you don't even have to go
to the website that you planned on visiting, which is
not good for those who run those websites and rely
on traffic and the advertising surrounding it, because you'll get
your results before you go there. And there's a lawsuit
going on in the EU not surprisingly about this. But yeah,
(19:41):
when you're a user of AI, you are getting what
you want really fast. But yeah, you're trying not to
contribute to this AI takeover. Well it's happening.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
You are in the minority. I'm not saying you're wrong.
I hear you. It's both scary.
Speaker 8 (19:54):
I mean even the time editors said the same thing,
they called AI both and I quote the most. It's
a consequential tool that's both exciting and frightening.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
And it's true.
Speaker 8 (20:07):
So yeah, I know you're trying not to give credence
to it or to rely too heavily on it. I'm
surprised that even in radio you and Shannon, aren't you
you're not using AI to to write some content that
you want to say on the air.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
It's so easy, you can do it in a commercial break.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
It's awful.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
All the AI content that is like mistakenly given to
us in a form of news articles is awful and
I would never even use and iota of it.
Speaker 8 (20:31):
You still have to vet the content without question, and
people ask me all the time every day. I get
this now because I'm a journalist. Do you use AI
to write your articles?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
No?
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Do I use it for research? Yes? It can it
be relied upon. No, like you have to you have
to do your.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
Due diligence and cross reference everything you read, because they
call it hallucinations when AI tells you something that they
that it maintains is factual when it's not because it
got the source information wrong or how it's it's aggrig
gating and processing the information is wrong. But it will
tell you definitively this is true when it is not.
So you still have to put some hi human intelligence
(21:09):
behind the AI that many of us are using.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
But you know, and I know.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
Where you guys are with the Hollywood community understandably very
concerned about AI replacing their jobs and also things like,
you know, copyright infringement since people can create content now
with seemingly no respect on the whoever owns those intellectual properties.
But you probably heard today that Walt Disney and open
(21:36):
Ai announced this like landmark announcement about a huge partnership
which I don't think anybody saw coming. Apparently Bob Iger
said that this has been in the works for a while,
but they're partnering with open Ai around its Sora tool,
which is to create video content where people can now
or next year rather be able to use familiar i e.
(22:01):
Disney Marvel, Star Wars, Pixar characters to create content and
even have it streamed on Disney Plus if it's good enough.
That's huge because instead of shunning AI, the creative community
it seems, is embracing it with some safeguards.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
As you can imagine, you can't do anything and appropriate
with the mouse.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
The idea of safeguards though, that's I mean, we're already talking.
We talked yesterday. Open ai has been writing laws that
they or I should say, proposed laws here in California
that they would like to, you know, offer up as safeguards,
but you can't have I think we said this yesterday,
the fox guarding the henhouse in this Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
Yeah, that's a good, good analogy. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (22:41):
Look, and I think I mentioned this on a previous
tech Talk segment with you that I've found my own
articles like clips from me, things that I've written, dished
to me, like regurgitated to me as if it was
open AI's content. But it's mine. But they took it
from an article that I wrote, maybe for you SA
today or for Yahoo or AARP wherever. But yeah, it's
(23:04):
copyright infringement is a huge issue. But I guess if
you can't beat them, join them is maybe the mentality.
It's a billion dollar investment as well, buy Disney into
open AI, not that they need more money, but it's
also giving anybody who works at the Disney company free
access to their most powerful tools, you know again, access
(23:26):
to the Sora generated videos that can be streamed on Disney.
Plus they're getting something out of it, no doubt, but
it's probably because they can't fight it unless legislation takes
it down, takes these companies down for violating copyrights. But
the creative community as equally as concerned understandably about AI
writing screenplays and being used to create videos like a
(23:46):
computer generated content, you know, instead of having a human.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
Do it, you know.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
So it's it's a really tricky twenty twenty six is
going to be interesting.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Let's just say that. Yeah, look, I'm gonna watch your
lawsuit very carey.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
Yeah you know it, you know it, right, But yeah,
it's a blessing and a curse. This this AI is
just like when the Internet came out, I said, I
wrote the same thing. So I've been a journalist since
the early nineties, I said, this is depending on what
your occupation is, this is either going to be amazing
or frightening. And this is I think AI is as
(24:19):
significant as the Internet for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah all right, Mark, great stuff, thank you, thank you.
Have a great afternoon. You too, Mark Saltzman. They make
sure you follow Mark on social media. X is probably
the best way to do it. M A. R. C.
Underscore Saltzman with a Z.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Coming back. Listening to Forensic Files may lull you to sleep.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I think my daughter does this.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
I bet she does.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I didn't put on these sparkle shoes for nothing.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I didn't put on these sparkle shoes for nothing, mister.
Those are not just sparkle shoes. Those are spike sparkle shoes.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
They have spikes on them.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Did you put those on the thing?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I saw video from the party. I didn't see anybody
else in spiky.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Oh those would be unique? Yeah? Yeah. The only other
one I know who has anything close to that is me,
and I don't have.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
You do have a nice pair of white pumps.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I got rid of those. What why would you do that? Those?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
They fit you so nicely?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
They did not?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
They?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Sure?
Speaker 7 (25:30):
Did?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
You walked on those like a boss.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
It was rough. Oh look at that, there's you breaking
the thing on the wall. What I thought?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I thought Matt didn't get that.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Oh he well he didn't get the exact crashing down.
But it's clear what just happened. And you complaining that
you may have hurt your pinky or whatever you said?
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Oh God, what an idiot? Gary and Shannon on why
am I such an idiot?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I don't know. I wish I had better answers for
you on something.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
We need to stop taking footage.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Do you know who Peter Thomas is? Peter Thomas here Thomas,
longtime radio guy back in Florida, British Nope, nope, American guy.
Served in World War Two, became a television announcer in Mobile, Alabama.
Moved to Memphis, Tennessee. In forty six. He starred as
Uncle Pete on The Unhandy Handy Man for a while.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Is he the narrator?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
He is the narrator?
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Ah?
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
He actually lent his voice to announcing the radio soap
opera Young Doctor Malone's Back in the fifties and sixties.
And then you know what. He narrated all four hundred
episodes of the series Forensic Files.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
One of my girlfriends from college is a devote of
Forensic Files. My husband's on a couple of these for
his work, always on there, and she gets very excited
when she's watching a Forensic Files and my husband will
pop up.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Well, imagine if Peter Thomas said his name out loud.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
In nineteen ninety six, a suspicious house fire destroyed the
home of a Seattle, Washington policeman.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
Love this and a bizarre twist.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
An ex convict confessed to setting the fire, then mysteriously disappeared.
When investigators look carefully at the written confession, they discovered
clues of a more serious crime than arson.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
I could totally go to sleep till.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
There are people who listen to Peter Thomas narrate these
episodes of Forensic Files. And each one is about twenty
three twenty four minutes long, perfect for your sleep. I
think they call it latency. However long it takes you
to fall asleep from when you lay down, and you
(27:50):
don't even ever have to find out who done it,
or the solving of the crime or anything like that.
Sarah just his voice. Yes.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Sarah Bodam lives in Florida, she's watched all four hundred
or so of the episodes at least twice.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
She's thirty.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
She says, he talks about very intense things, but he
doesn't do it in a way that provokes anxiety.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
And that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
It's the tone and the tenor of his voice that
is so soothing.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
They found evidence of murder, murder, and then the theme
the Friends of Files. By the time the fire was extinguished,
the home was almost completely destroyed. The origin of the
fire appeared suspicious, and dogs specially trained to recognize flammable
(28:34):
liquids or accelerants were sent to sniff through the rubble.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Now, see, it reminds me of all those shows that
would come on about three pm, you know, on Lifetime
or what have you, City Confidential, all that stuff, and
they would just lull you into your afternoon nap. And
they were usually about murders or whatever. And I don't
remember the I want to say, like early two thousands
or whatever. I remember like in college, and I'd watched
(28:58):
that stuff in the middle of the after noon and
you just want to nap to it.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
My daughter is a true crime fan and loves the
Forensic Files show, and she has graduated from forensic files
and Peter Thomas to listening while she's working in her lab,
listening to raw interrogation tapes from different cases, high profile,
(29:24):
low profile, whatever, but just raw and some of those
are six eight hours where detectives are interviewing a suspect
or whatever case, whatever crime is she doing, She's great,
that's the problem. That's what worries me, like something there's
something about that is just it's soothing to her, and
it's just it's just in the back of her mind.
(29:46):
She's not really.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, the fact that she's that she's interested in staying
with the the arc of an interrogation too, because you've
got to kind of focus on where the detective's going,
what the answers are, where that leads them. And she's
doing stuff in the lab at the same time she
killed a bunch of people. I wouldn't be shocked, Like
(30:08):
that's it. That is next level intelligence and curiosity. Just
a quick I say that as a compliment. Oh yeah,
now I know.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Peter Thomas the narrator again, the voiceover guy married his
high school sweetheart in nineteen forty six. His high school sweetheart, Stella.
She passed away in twenty fourteen. They had three kids.
They settled in Naples, Florida. He died in twenty sixteen
at the age of ninety one.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
The men still have other men's that still have that voice.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I feel like that voice is very much of my
grandfather's generation. Which is that generation I don't have, just
like a soothing tenor.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
I don't know. Is it the mid Atlantic accent?
Speaker 5 (30:49):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I don't know. A lot of cigars.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Is it cigars? My grandfather did smock cigars, cigarettes, He
did do that for a time. Maybe that's it. Maybe
you got to get we gotta get you some Marlboroughs.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
You got to get me some Marlboroughs and some brown liquors. Yeah,
you've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show. You
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Don't look now, but the Oklahoma City Thunder might be
the best basketball team in the history of the game.
But they are twenty four and one. They beat the
Phoenix Suns yesterday by thirty eight forty nine points. It
was one hundred and thirty eight to eighty nine. The Warriors,
of course, set the record in a regular season with
(00:31):
seventy three wins. That beat the Bulls from ninety six.
They won seventy two games, of course with Michael Jordan.
But the Oklahoma City Thunder right now, that's hot.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
How many games in the NBA season eighty two? Okay,
twenty four and one. Wow, that's incredible. That seems like
it's who plays for Oklahoma City.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
You know the guys that the Thunder, That's who plays
for them. Thank you me asking me about basketball?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Oh, Jaylen Williams, I don't know why am I asking
me about basketball? For swamp more that I don't know
an think about.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar. And
when I'm not kissing babies. I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Here we got the real problem is that our leaders are.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Gone on the other side, never quits.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
So what I'm not going anywhere, So that now you
train the.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Swap, I can imagine what can be and be unburdened
by what has been.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
You Knowervans have always been going at president. They're not stupid.
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Whether people voted for you were not.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Swamp watch.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
They're all counter knowing well. A new poll comes out
shows the president's not getting great numbers when it comes
to his handling of the economy. This is the ap
nork Pole that came out for the month of December.
Thirty one percent of people say they approve of the
way the president is handling economic leadership. Results are obviously
(01:57):
along partisan lines. It's about seventy percent of Republicans like
the way he's handling the economy. Seven percent of Democrats
like it. That's down from about thirty three percent in November,
was about forty percent for the month of March. We
played it for you earlier this week. In this interview
(02:19):
with Politico, he said that the economy is a plus
plus plus plus, and that's going to be his stump
speech basically as we get to you know, the eleven
month countdown to the midterms, is that he wants this
to be an economic a referendum on the economy. But
(02:39):
he's going to have to do better at convincing people
that prices are going down, that inflation is going down
because he's not shopping at the grocery store.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
They are exactly. Just saying so does not make it true.
He is blaming Joe Biden for the affordability concerns, and
like we've talked about repeatedly, no single president is to
blame for the economy any particular day.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
That's just that's not how the world works.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But when you kind of get into the weeds of
why the affordability crisis is what it is, there's enough
blame to go around for both Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
They both made policy decisions that affected consumer costs. You've
got the Trump tariffs that really did rattle supply chains,
or the stimulus that Biden pumped into the economy just
(03:29):
as it was coming out of the pandemic. But the
prices those are not set by presidents. We talked about
this a little bit yesterday in terms of what is
the business community's fault in all of this. The businesses
set the price is sometimes set by you know, through
negotiations with customers or what have you.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
You have, of course, supply and demand.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
If you want to go back to junior year in
high school, you know, more demand and less supply, you
get higher prices. We saw a lot of that during
the pandemic when we had the boats stuck offshore. But
obviously the presidents, for better or for worse, and get
stuck with the credit or the blame in this situation.
But the business cycle and inflation in the cycle are
(04:12):
outside of the realm and the control of the president.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I mean, he has said, he has said things, and
he's made requests of business owners and businesses in general
saying that he wants them to do what they can
to keep prices down. But he they're out. Like you said,
he doesn't have the actual control. It's not a federal
agency that controls the price of beef.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
For example, Economists say the worst of inflation under Biden
was mostly gone by the time Trump took office this year,
and that doesn't really mean anything because you know, the
economy takes some time to the dust to settle right
and to figure out where you're at. But the worst
of the inflation was gone. The nine point one percent
year over year rise and prices that happened during Biden's
(04:54):
term had fallen to three percent by January of twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
So I don't know if this is I don't know
if this turns around in time. I mean, there are
enough indicators. The Fed Reserve chair also suggested that the
federal government hasn't been reporting jobless numbers accurately, that we
may be under reporting how bad the economy actually is.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Rising housing is another problem that took root, they say,
in the bursting of the housing bubble back in two
thousand and seven. That caused obviously the Great Recession. Fewer homes,
fewer apartments built, and then that kind of lingered for
a while. Most estimates are that we currently have an
undersupply of between three million to five million housing units.
(05:42):
You can't blame either administration for that. That's just again
dust settling from back in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
The economy, rising cost of living, and healthcare costs. Those
three things are the top three issues that voters have
said that they and the numbers somewhere around seven percent.
If you just took those three, seventy percent of voters
say they'll make decisions based on higher cost of living,
the economy, and healthcare prices over the course of the
(06:10):
next several months. Short part of that is that Senate yesterday,
sorry this morning, failed to advance two competing health care proposals.
They're trying to get something in place because of the
Affordable Care Act tax credits that will expire right at
the beginning of the year. One of these plans was
(06:31):
put forward by Democrats, the other was reported put to
forth by Republicans. Neither of them got the sixty votes
that are needed. So there's only a few days left
in the congressional session for them to try to figure
something out before it comes crashing down. And it's going
to be a massive headline at the beginning of the
year if people are forced to play pay full price
(06:52):
once again for those Affordable Care Act plans.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
All right, Gary and Shanna will continue.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I'm going to go hide the stuff that I broke
cool while we were hunting for elves.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Just better just gonna throw it away, pretend to throw
that away. It's too big.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Management's here, let's go.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
He doesn't know, he doesn't.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Know, Gary party, Gary Shannon will continue.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
A M six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Steelers and the Ravens in a battle for that AFC North. Uh,
just a game back. The Ravens are from the Steelers.
A loss of TJ Watt would be huge.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
What would happen? What kind of lung nager?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Is it like a Tyrod tayloratuation?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I don't know, Yeah, to alleviate maybe something, some pain
and they go in and they hit the lung instead.
Isn't that what exactly what happened to Tyrod Taylor?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It sounds like it. Yeah, well, today is the day.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Today is the day.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Today is the day of the Hollow. They party off
and like we said before, it's not open to us.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
No, they schedule these things every time when we're on
the air. And it sounded like fun, Like there's an
open bar. That sounded like fun karaoke. We could have
killed it with Islands in the Stream or Leather and Lace,
or maybe don't don't go Break in My Heart with
Kiki d I could be Kiki d just throwing that
out there.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
But nothing holiday themed.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Oh we could, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I'm not shutting the door on jingle bell rock like
Christmas and Harlem. Can you imagine the choreo that we
could provide.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I can't imagine that, girl, now that you mentioned it, No,
I can't.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Peak holiday party choreoek is what we would have provided.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I would wear the heels that you're wearing, and I
cannot do that.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I'd a great backup to answer, I don't think your
foot would fit. Do you want to try?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I would split those things.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Oh yeah, you'd.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Split them with your feet. I've seen your feet. Yeah,
they're polite feet. They're not getting light feet there, They're
not monster's feet.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Look like I was baking bread.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
My husband has the foot of a monster.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
What does that mean? He has a lovely thing to
say he has monster feet. They look like like if
Fred Flintstone had no shoes, which I don't think he does.
He does not have shoes like I don't know. My brother,
same thing, monster's feet. He has the foot of a monster.
Your feet are nice and polite. I appreciate all of
(09:34):
what you've just said. I do, and I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Michael Monks works for KFI News, as does Heather Brookers.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Oh they're at the party.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Two of them are at this party that is upstairs
from us. All right, what's going on you guys? I
don't hear them, Elmer.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Do we not get a phone that works?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
We has this radio station funneled all.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Hear you here?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Michael, Yeah, I'll they can hear me, but not Heather.
I'm sitting next to Paul Orbino.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Who's our boss.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Love your work, sir, Merry Christmas to you.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
He doesn't know who you are, not at all.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
So we're just harmonized and were vocalizing.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, hearing for our paradise. Yeah, actually not a Christmas.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
But this audio is awful.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
We're right the open balk.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Are you holding the phone to your face? Oh my god,
it's my ear?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Is it not good radio?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, you're a radio station. We'll find some. Actually, go
outside on the balcony and tell us what is my god?
We'll come back to them.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Don't put your freaking air pods in. Get on the
damn phone.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Sorry. Michael Clark, gosh, I.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Know I was Michael Clark. That was vintage Michael Clark
right there.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
That was.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
There were no air pods when he was there.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
There were, but you imagic.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Oh boy, so we know what the drink menu is
and there is the legit. Tell me, tell me about
the drink menu. Winter Wonderland is one of yes, it
is not even now on a Thursday, not not the ones.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Windger Wonderland is white Russian cut waters, cut water, I guess,
vodka and coffee cream liqueur.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
That sounds like the bathrooms are going to be stopped
up for a while.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
This is frosty frequency. Frizz is a cranberry seltzer with
vodka ortice. That sounds shoes stas. How are the pores
up there? Tequila, orange juice and grenadine like a dog
cast you know what that means. Spiked eggnog, a radio
reindeer mocktail, which is cranberry orange and sparkling water, and
then a selection of wine, beer and soda as well.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Okay, guys, how is the poor going on for these drinks?
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Has anyone ordered a drink?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Okay? Can you there's a lot of people that are
ordering drinks, could you guys? Hear me?
Speaker 7 (11:54):
Okay, much better?
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Very clear?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Okay, great?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Got you?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Okay, So there's actually a lot of activity at the
bar at eleven o'clock on a Thursday.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, when the company's paying for it.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Sick.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
So that's where I'm at right now. You're right. I
heard you listening to some of the drinks. Some of
the most popular ones seem to be the Winter Wonderland
and the Santa's sound Wave. A little nod to audio.
A lot of people are hitting up this massive Sharkterie table.
That's the table scape, if you will. We've got honey,
We've got cheese, cucumbers. Ellen k just walks through whenever
(12:29):
I'm not excited.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Oh my god, heard this here?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
So pretty. Sandy Seck is here from Coast FM. Hi,
we're live on KFI A and Lucari and Shannon. How
are you feeling about the holidays? I am feeling great
and I'm feeling even better because there are free food
and drinks here.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I'm a fan.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Right, So you what sweaters do you see? Do you
see any sweaters that are captivating?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Not so far, to be honest, A lot of the
sweaters and a lot of the h fashion is a
little bland, a little dry. I think people are a
little scared to step outside their comfort zone. Just want
a navy. He's got a graves a lot of black.
Allan k is wearing like a navy, just like button down.
I'm forse wearing my irma gird shirt. So here's one
(13:16):
thing I want to tell you guys about this whole party.
If there's multiple locations that are happening. So there's one
area is the food and duram sharkcootering and dreams. There's
another area that's like, uh decorating, Yeah, the sharkash.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
How sweaty is that area?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
How sweaty is that meat?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
All right? Oh, it's so sweaty. Yeah, it's definitely sweating.
It's definite swearing. It's a little wet. You can see it.
I mean, I'm still going to get after it because
I'm a reporter and I dive dive into my story.
And then there's a whole room in here where you
can like win prizes, just like a raffle. I see
Brian Long, our program director, walking in there is gonna
(13:53):
put it kicking in to win some prizes. I'm I'm
a little surprise there aren't more people here. Maybe they're
just slowly coming in. You can hear the music is
a little a little fester the confessors music I fully expect, Like,
where's Ariana Grande? Where is the major music stars from
(14:14):
iHeartRadio that are going to need coming in Serenadia?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
You know that they don't actually work here, right?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
That they could come and party with us. Where's Ellen?
Speaker 8 (14:25):
Say hello?
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Yeah, let's say hello to Ellen. I'd love to.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Oh, okay, she's very busy.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Oh, Dave, tell Dave Wes to take a hip.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I am Ellen. I'm live right now, KFI Garian Channon
would love to say hello. They couldn't come up because
they're working. But can they say hello? Really? Of course?
Speaker 7 (14:45):
Why?
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Oh my god, we saw you on TV. Look beautiful, No.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
It's us. We're on the air right now.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
We're on the air.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Were you can't come up the staircase?
Speaker 5 (14:59):
No job here?
Speaker 3 (15:01):
We can I bring you anything? I could bring you
food or there's a shark.
Speaker 7 (15:05):
Gutory, You're so sweet? See open bar.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Why can't we work with Ellen every day? She's so
much nicer than the other people down here. Ellen, Thank you,
we love you. We had to talk to you during
the holidays because it's not the holidays without a little
dose of ellen k and so thank you for jumping on.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
We appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I wish you would come up and party. You work
too much, I know, I know, well, thank you have fun.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Thank you for Christmas is a k ry Christmas.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I love her.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
All right, you guys, just so you know, I'll be
here for you all day, all during the Gary Ken
Show reporting live. If you mean me, I will be
at the bar.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Are you gonna sing karaoke?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
You know what? I want to? But I don't see
where the karaoke room is. Oh wait, maybe I've just
found it. No, that's a photo there's a photo area.
You're okay, we'll check.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
We'll check back in with you in an hour. And
we want to hear what's going going on, and maybe
sign up for karaoke because that would bring the house down.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I definitely am a feeling things are going to keep
ramping up, so let's do.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
That, all right, Gary and Shannon will continue Heather Brookers
live at our holiday party without us.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
The Pacific Northwest has just been getting hit with ridiculous
amounts of rain. They have had several smaller towns in
and around the peninsula, the Olympic Peninsula that have been
closed down. Governor Bob Ferguson of Washington declared an emergency.
He is predicting that as many as one hundred thousand
people could be forced to evacuate from their homes as
(16:42):
a result of all of this. There was a little
earthquake about an hour ago. We didn't feel it here,
but it was about a three point three they said,
centered in fillmore so, anywhere from say Santa Barbara to
Santa Clarita, you may have felt that. Ventura Oxnard ha
said it was about ten thirty and again it was
about to three point three on Thursdays.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
One of my friends sext to me that she was
in the car with her mom and her mom's significant
other and they were talking about the big one coming,
and that was about an hour ago.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
This wasn't the big one.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
No, it was a three point too, but it could
be a precursor.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
It could be a pre shock pre shocked. Thursday's right now,
we talk about tech. The machines are getting smarter.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
This is tech Talk, brought to you by Skynet.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Mark Saltzman joins us and Mark it is the holiday season,
and we'll look at that AI making a name for itself,
the Architects of AI being named the person of the
Year for Time magazine in twenty twenty five, Disney and Best.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
No, I'm not. I'm surprised it wasn't three years ago,
but it would.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
Be ironic if Time crowned AI as the person of
the year since it's artificial intelligence, but it's the architects
of AI is really what they're shining a light on.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
So yeah, so.
Speaker 8 (18:02):
Folks like Jensen Huang or Wong, however you like to
pronounce it. The head of Nvidia, I think, eighth richest
person on the planet and behind the company that is
the first the world's first five trillion dollar company, and
VideA as well as on the cover there's Elon Musk
and Sam Altman from Open Ai and Zuckerberg of course
from Meta.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
So yeah, they're acknowledging that the world.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
Has significantly changed in twenty twenty five with almost a
billion people using AI. Now that's like one eighth of
the world's entire population, leveraging tools like Chat, GPT, Google, Gemini,
Grock and so on. To get work done. Come, yeah,
I don't know, right right, write their bosses convincing emails
(18:46):
on why they can't show up to work. I don't
know what they're using it for.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Aren't we Still I find myself trying to make sure
that I'm not using AI. I'm looking for a search
into different you know, in any sort of browser. I'm
trying to Well, you're the one. Well, I understand the
what's the word nvenience? The convenience, great word. I understand
the convenience of it. But I don't want to give
(19:09):
AI any more speed than it's already gotten. Yeah, and
granted me one out of like you mentioned, one out
of a billion people who's not using it isn't going
to slow it down very much.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
So look, I mean search engines have evolved now, both
being in Google where you don't even have to go
to the website that you planned on visiting, which is
not good for those who run those websites and rely
on traffic and the advertising surrounding it, because you'll get
your results before you go there. And there's a lawsuit
going on in the EU not surprisingly about this. But yeah,
(19:41):
when you're a user of AI, you are getting what
you want really fast. But yeah, you're trying not to
contribute to this AI takeover. Well it's happening.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
You are in the minority. I'm not saying you're wrong.
I hear you. It's both scary.
Speaker 8 (19:54):
I mean even the time editors said the same thing,
they called AI both and I quote the most. It's
a consequential tool that's both exciting and frightening.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
And it's true.
Speaker 8 (20:07):
So yeah, I know you're trying not to give credence
to it or to rely too heavily on it. I'm
surprised that even in radio you and Shannon, aren't you
you're not using AI to to write some content that
you want to say on the air.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
It's so easy, you can do it in a commercial break.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
It's awful.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
All the AI content that is like mistakenly given to
us in a form of news articles is awful and
I would never even use and iota of it.
Speaker 8 (20:31):
You still have to vet the content without question, and
people ask me all the time every day. I get
this now because I'm a journalist. Do you use AI
to write your articles?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
No?
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Do I use it for research? Yes? It can it
be relied upon. No, like you have to you have
to do your.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
Due diligence and cross reference everything you read, because they
call it hallucinations when AI tells you something that they
that it maintains is factual when it's not because it
got the source information wrong or how it's it's aggrig
gating and processing the information is wrong. But it will
tell you definitively this is true when it is not.
So you still have to put some hi human intelligence
(21:09):
behind the AI that many of us are using.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
But you know, and I know.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
Where you guys are with the Hollywood community understandably very
concerned about AI replacing their jobs and also things like,
you know, copyright infringement since people can create content now
with seemingly no respect on the whoever owns those intellectual properties.
But you probably heard today that Walt Disney and open
(21:36):
Ai announced this like landmark announcement about a huge partnership
which I don't think anybody saw coming. Apparently Bob Iger
said that this has been in the works for a while,
but they're partnering with open Ai around its Sora tool,
which is to create video content where people can now
or next year rather be able to use familiar i e.
(22:01):
Disney Marvel, Star Wars, Pixar characters to create content and
even have it streamed on Disney Plus if it's good enough.
That's huge because instead of shunning AI, the creative community
it seems, is embracing it with some safeguards.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
As you can imagine, you can't do anything and appropriate
with the mouse.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
The idea of safeguards though, that's I mean, we're already talking.
We talked yesterday. Open ai has been writing laws that
they or I should say, proposed laws here in California
that they would like to, you know, offer up as safeguards,
but you can't have I think we said this yesterday,
the fox guarding the henhouse in this Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
Yeah, that's a good, good analogy. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (22:41):
Look, and I think I mentioned this on a previous
tech Talk segment with you that I've found my own
articles like clips from me, things that I've written, dished
to me, like regurgitated to me as if it was
open AI's content. But it's mine. But they took it
from an article that I wrote, maybe for you SA
today or for Yahoo or AARP wherever. But yeah, it's
(23:04):
copyright infringement is a huge issue. But I guess if
you can't beat them, join them is maybe the mentality.
It's a billion dollar investment as well, buy Disney into
open AI, not that they need more money, but it's
also giving anybody who works at the Disney company free
access to their most powerful tools, you know again, access
(23:26):
to the Sora generated videos that can be streamed on Disney.
Plus they're getting something out of it, no doubt, but
it's probably because they can't fight it unless legislation takes
it down, takes these companies down for violating copyrights. But
the creative community as equally as concerned understandably about AI
writing screenplays and being used to create videos like a
(23:46):
computer generated content, you know, instead of having a human.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
Do it, you know.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
So it's it's a really tricky twenty twenty six is
going to be interesting.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Let's just say that. Yeah, look, I'm gonna watch your
lawsuit very carey.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
Yeah you know it, you know it, right, But yeah,
it's a blessing and a curse. This this AI is
just like when the Internet came out, I said, I
wrote the same thing. So I've been a journalist since
the early nineties, I said, this is depending on what
your occupation is, this is either going to be amazing
or frightening. And this is I think AI is as
(24:19):
significant as the Internet for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah all right, Mark, great stuff, thank you, thank you.
Have a great afternoon. You too, Mark Saltzman. They make
sure you follow Mark on social media. X is probably
the best way to do it. M A. R. C.
Underscore Saltzman with a Z.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Coming back. Listening to Forensic Files may lull you to sleep.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I think my daughter does this.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
I bet she does.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I didn't put on these sparkle shoes for nothing.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I didn't put on these sparkle shoes for nothing, mister.
Those are not just sparkle shoes. Those are spike sparkle shoes.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
They have spikes on them.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Did you put those on the thing?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I saw video from the party. I didn't see anybody
else in spiky.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Oh those would be unique? Yeah? Yeah. The only other
one I know who has anything close to that is me,
and I don't have.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
You do have a nice pair of white pumps.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I got rid of those. What why would you do that? Those?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
They fit you so nicely?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
They did not?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
They?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Sure?
Speaker 7 (25:30):
Did?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
You walked on those like a boss.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
It was rough. Oh look at that, there's you breaking
the thing on the wall. What I thought?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I thought Matt didn't get that.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Oh he well he didn't get the exact crashing down.
But it's clear what just happened. And you complaining that
you may have hurt your pinky or whatever you said?
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Oh God, what an idiot? Gary and Shannon on why
am I such an idiot?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I don't know. I wish I had better answers for
you on something.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
We need to stop taking footage.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Do you know who Peter Thomas is? Peter Thomas here Thomas,
longtime radio guy back in Florida, British Nope, nope, American guy.
Served in World War Two, became a television announcer in Mobile, Alabama.
Moved to Memphis, Tennessee. In forty six. He starred as
Uncle Pete on The Unhandy Handy Man for a while.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Is he the narrator?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
He is the narrator?
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Ah?
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
He actually lent his voice to announcing the radio soap
opera Young Doctor Malone's Back in the fifties and sixties.
And then you know what. He narrated all four hundred
episodes of the series Forensic Files.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
One of my girlfriends from college is a devote of
Forensic Files. My husband's on a couple of these for
his work, always on there, and she gets very excited
when she's watching a Forensic Files and my husband will
pop up.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Well, imagine if Peter Thomas said his name out loud.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
In nineteen ninety six, a suspicious house fire destroyed the
home of a Seattle, Washington policeman.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
Love this and a bizarre twist.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
An ex convict confessed to setting the fire, then mysteriously disappeared.
When investigators look carefully at the written confession, they discovered
clues of a more serious crime than arson.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
I could totally go to sleep till.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
There are people who listen to Peter Thomas narrate these
episodes of Forensic Files. And each one is about twenty
three twenty four minutes long, perfect for your sleep. I
think they call it latency. However long it takes you
to fall asleep from when you lay down, and you
(27:50):
don't even ever have to find out who done it,
or the solving of the crime or anything like that.
Sarah just his voice. Yes.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Sarah Bodam lives in Florida, she's watched all four hundred
or so of the episodes at least twice.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
She's thirty.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
She says, he talks about very intense things, but he
doesn't do it in a way that provokes anxiety.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
And that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
It's the tone and the tenor of his voice that
is so soothing.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
They found evidence of murder, murder, and then the theme
the Friends of Files. By the time the fire was extinguished,
the home was almost completely destroyed. The origin of the
fire appeared suspicious, and dogs specially trained to recognize flammable
(28:34):
liquids or accelerants were sent to sniff through the rubble.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Now, see, it reminds me of all those shows that
would come on about three pm, you know, on Lifetime
or what have you, City Confidential, all that stuff, and
they would just lull you into your afternoon nap. And
they were usually about murders or whatever. And I don't
remember the I want to say, like early two thousands
or whatever. I remember like in college, and I'd watched
(28:58):
that stuff in the middle of the after noon and
you just want to nap to it.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
My daughter is a true crime fan and loves the
Forensic Files show, and she has graduated from forensic files
and Peter Thomas to listening while she's working in her lab,
listening to raw interrogation tapes from different cases, high profile,
(29:24):
low profile, whatever, but just raw and some of those
are six eight hours where detectives are interviewing a suspect
or whatever case, whatever crime is she doing, She's great,
that's the problem. That's what worries me, like something there's
something about that is just it's soothing to her, and
it's just it's just in the back of her mind.
(29:46):
She's not really.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, the fact that she's that she's interested in staying
with the the arc of an interrogation too, because you've
got to kind of focus on where the detective's going,
what the answers are, where that leads them. And she's
doing stuff in the lab at the same time she
killed a bunch of people. I wouldn't be shocked, Like
(30:08):
that's it. That is next level intelligence and curiosity. Just
a quick I say that as a compliment. Oh yeah,
now I know.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Peter Thomas the narrator again, the voiceover guy married his
high school sweetheart in nineteen forty six. His high school sweetheart, Stella.
She passed away in twenty fourteen. They had three kids.
They settled in Naples, Florida. He died in twenty sixteen
at the age of ninety one.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
The men still have other men's that still have that voice.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I feel like that voice is very much of my
grandfather's generation. Which is that generation I don't have, just
like a soothing tenor.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
I don't know. Is it the mid Atlantic accent?
Speaker 5 (30:49):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I don't know. A lot of cigars.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Is it cigars? My grandfather did smock cigars, cigarettes, He
did do that for a time. Maybe that's it. Maybe
you got to get we gotta get you some Marlboroughs.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
You got to get me some Marlboroughs and some brown liquors. Yeah,
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