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October 9, 2025 35 mins
Gary and Shannon kick off the hour with #SwampWatch, breaking down President Trump’s surprise peace deal between Israel and Hamas and its global implications. Then, they unpack the bizarre “death by piano” tragedy at San Francisco’s Condor Club. In #TechTalk, Mark Saltzman joins the show to discuss the newest wave of ads coming to your $1,800 Samsung fridge, how Meta is using your AI chats to target you with ads, and the best remaining Fall Prime Day deals. The hour wraps with a spirited conversation about America’s obsession with parlays, from the rush of the win to the shame spiral that can come with gambling.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
We do have some.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Rain and thunderstorms that are possible to day through the
weekend because of Hurricane Priscilla making its way up the
west coast of Mexico.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
There.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
You can tell by the clouds tropical weird clouds this
morning and that will continue with some weird weather.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Makes for good sunrise though.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah, if you're up early enough to see that, it's fun.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
The Hungarian novelist Loslow Krasna hoor K is the Nobel
Prize winner for literature this year. Okay, dark, apocalyptic and
run on sentences, those are the three characteristics.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
And baklava and.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Probably baklava is that Hungarian? Yeah, I didn't know that.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
I did.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
They'll throw in some port football tonight Eagles Giant for
Thursday Night football, one of the division series. In baseball's
wrapped up, Blue Jays eliminated last year's American League champs,
the Yankees, with a five to win in New York.
Tigers won, Cubs won yesterday, so Brewers Cubs in Chicago
today just after six. But of course the big one

(01:14):
is Phillies Dodgers Game four this afternoon at Dodger Stadium,
and that comes up just after three o'clock.

Speaker 6 (01:21):
Hey, Garyan Shannon, big fan here, Todd Lights, Oh you're
from the PA booth here at beautiful Dodgers Stadium in
Los Angeles. Is the Dodgers prepared to take on the
Phillies in Game four of the NLDS. Listen to you
guys on the way in today and it kind of
got my mind off things. So thank you very much
for that big fan here. Aw, let's go Dodgers. Let's

(01:43):
go local listeners to band together give the Dodgers support
to go up over the edge.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, the voice of the Dodgers. That is the voice
you hear.

Speaker 7 (01:53):
It's time to meet the starting lineup for your Los
Angeles Dodgers.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Tell me the year if you can, by the way.

Speaker 7 (02:02):
Leading off the shortstop number eleven, Jimmy Rollins.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's the opening day lineup.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Jimmy Rollins, I shortstop.

Speaker 7 (02:16):
Abatting second in right field, number sixty six, Yes yet week.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Twenty Yeah, see help we just the first two. Clayton
Kershaw started the game, which.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Not a surprise twenty thirteen.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Fifteen fifteen, Todd Lights and I were in the streets together.
We were both news reporters back five hundred years ago.
He was also had a past life as a firefighter
as well.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
I didn't know that. Yeah, well, Todd, thanks for listening.
Appreciate it. Yeah, that's very cool.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Have fun today, it's time for swamp watch.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar.
And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.

Speaker 8 (02:56):
Yeah, we got the real problem is that our leaders.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Are on the other side. Never quit so what.

Speaker 9 (03:04):
I'm not going anywhere, So that now you train the.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Squat, I can imagine what can be and be unburdened
by what has been. You know, Americans have always been gone,
but they're not stupid.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Have the people voted for you with mas?

Speaker 1 (03:20):
I just want to make something clear. I don't know
if Baklava's traditionally Hungarian. All I know is I grew
up with Hungarian family, and my brother's best friends do
not and Peter across the street from us, and their mother,
Elizabeth would always make Bauklevan.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Could not. It may not be a traditional Hungarian dessert.
I think either way, I would have accepted all of that. Okay,
I don't want to be racist.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
The big deal out of Washington, d C. Takes on
a much more international flare. We know that President Trump
has helped broker this deal between Israel and moss He
announced that they have agreed to the first phase of
a ceasefire deal. The families of hostages, of course, will
get their loved ones back, both those alive and those

(04:11):
who have passed. Palestinians will be traded for the bodies
and for the lives of the hostages.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
That'll be a.

Speaker 10 (04:19):
Day of joy. I'm going to try and make a
trip over We're going to try and get over there,
and we're working on the timing, the exact timing. We're
going to go to Egypt where we'll have a signing,
an additional signing. We've already had a signing representing me,
but we're going to have an official signing.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
So the President has said that he was planning on
going to the Middle East this weekend. Anyway, after stop
at Walter Reid on Friday, I believe, and now it
looks as if he will also make the trip to
Egypt for like he referred there this formal signing, a
lot of questions still to be answered regarding what you're

(05:00):
going to do with Gaza. We talked with Robert Sherman
earlier today about his time not just in the Middle least,
but he was in Gaza yesterday and said a lot
of people there are completely done with Hamas despite the promises.
The reason that Hamas was in power is because they
were to live a better life, and obviously, with absolutely

(05:24):
nothing left of Gaza, they got to figure out what
they're going to do in the future.

Speaker 10 (05:28):
We're going to work with very wealthy countries that love people.

Speaker 8 (05:34):
Frankly, I know them very well. They love people, but
they love Arab people, and they love Muslims, and they
love they love I think right now, they love everybody,
and they're immensely wealthy, and they're going to be involved
in putting up money and for them it's a small
amount of money.

Speaker 10 (05:48):
For somebody else, it's a large amount of money.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
There is a meeting today also in Paris between a
couple dozens and that topic of what Gaza two point
zero looks like.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
So I'm pretty sure that I know the general manager
of the strip club that has been found killed in
Santa Rosa, or at least I know his predecessor, because
there was a GM for the Condor Club. That the
Condor Club is in North Beach in San Francisco, and
it's an area with great Italian restaurants.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
If you know the area, My husband I used to
go to this place.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
It was called e Tuo tu Quah and it was
right across the street from the Condor Club. And the
manager of the Condor Club, very vocal guy, always outside.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
He was just kind of a neighborhood figure.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I don't know if it matches up because this guy
was found at is just sixty, so maybe I knew
the guy before the guy. But anyway, the Condor Club
has has been a presence in North Beach forever, legendary, legendary,
and now it also.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Has this very weird history to it.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
It does.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
San Francisco has a great It has great lore, doesn't it. Yeah,
you know, it's like the show after the books Tales
of the City, Okay by Armisted Mappin.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
I think I'm getting that right.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
All right, great stories of San Francisco's past and just culture.
It's fantastic and the Condor is one of those perfect
tenets of San Francisco lore.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
We'll talk about this crazy story out of the Condor
Club when we come back. Gary and Shannon will continue.

Speaker 11 (07:35):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Coming up in tech Talk later on, we'll be talking
about meta using your conversations with AI to sell you things. Now,
how convenient slash creepy is that?

Speaker 2 (07:53):
I love it?

Speaker 4 (07:54):
The State of Illinois is urging a judge to order
the National Guard to stand down in the Chicago area.
The state calls the deployment of constitutional crisis and suggest
that President Trump's administration give no heed to the pending
legal challenge. Federal judge is hearing arguments today. In all
of this, Palestinians in Gaza welcomed the news of an

(08:15):
agreement on the first phase of a peace plan between
Israel and Hamas. Many of the Palestinians express happiness and
eagerness for the killings and destruction in Gaza to end,
but also feel a weight of their losses and some
uncertainty about the future.

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The Condor Club.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yes, the Condor Club at the heart of North Beach
in Broadway and at Broadway and Columbus in San Francisco
is where they like to call themselves the nation's first
topless bar. Now you know that that's not the case.
Maybe they're the first sanctioned topless bar in America. Who knows.
But the Condor Club first open in nineteen fifty eight

(09:57):
as a music venue. The reason we're talking about it,
by the way, is that the manager of the Condor
Club was shot and killed last week in Santa Rosa
up there North Bay, sixty years old, Mark Calcagny, longtime
manager there, shot multiple times and was on foot at

(10:19):
the time of the killing. They don't have anyone for
this yet, but anyway, the Condor Club has been storied
for decades. Like we mentioned, it opened in fifty eight
as a music venue. Became notorious in nineteen sixty four
when waitress Carol Doda started dancing topless for patrons. How

(10:40):
does that happen? How does that get going? Carol has
a couple pops and deciding they're.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Like, heyll, Carol, how about we see your tatas or
what would be boobs in nineteen sixty four? What do
you call boobs in nineteen sixty four?

Speaker 3 (10:57):
What did I call them?

Speaker 2 (10:59):
What did people call?

Speaker 3 (11:02):
I don't sweater?

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Sweater? Was sweater mounts?

Speaker 11 (11:07):
No?

Speaker 3 (11:07):
I didn't say, I didn't finish it. I don't know
what the old timey words might have been.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
What did a bra look like in nineteen sixty four?
Probably not cute?

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Instarted again, that's that's that's that talking post war, right,
and there's all the steel that was going into the
war machine is now being put into undergarments.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Okay, so not hot, I would argue nineteen sixty four
broad functional, right, So that's why that came off, because
nobody wants to be seen in an ugly bra in public.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Forty four double d's is supposedly what Carol.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
No, I'm just saying I didn't whoa.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
That's not how I gauge history.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I'm just saying that that those are some impressive sweater mounds.
So anyway, Carol starts, she takes off her functional undergarments,
and history is made. The club also made news in
nineteen eighty three, and this is my favorite piece of
Condor lore. The bouncer at the time a guy by

(12:09):
the name of Jimmy Faroso. Conway went to elementary school
with him. Jimmy, Jimmy Faroza. Do you ever notice how
Conway's buddies all sound like they're in the mafia? Yeah,
Jimmy Faroso was crushed to death while having sex with
his girlfriend, also a dancer at the Condor named Teresa.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Wait for it, so Jimmy's.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Crushed to death while he's dancing with his strip club girlfriend.
Dancer Teresa gets better on the top of the club's
mechanical piano. Wait, how did that happen? It gets better?
I'm glad you asked. The mechanical piano was accidentally turned

(12:52):
on and hoisted to the ceiling, where it exphyxiated Jimmy.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
It crushed him, but not her, right, he was on top, yep,
but he's.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Teresa may have had forty four double d's to cush
in the blow.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
I don't know cushion.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Well, if you were lying down on a piano and
you had forty four double d's like this.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
You're still crying you're still going to be crushed. You're
still going to be crushed. Rush, but you don't get crushed.
They do, not they do. They also crush you.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
No, No, I think they act as a buffer between
the pressure.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
No, yes, yes they do.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Physics tells me that's not case.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
That's not the case.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
I don't think you understand. Well, you did tell me
about that one girl you dated, so maybe you do understand.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
But put your hands down, Please do not stop it.

Speaker 9 (13:57):
I feel like.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
They would provide a buffer.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
In nineteen sixty five, the Condor Club was raided by police. Carol,
the original dancer waitress, was arrested for indecent exposure. The
owners back then, Gino del Pretti and Pete Mattioli, again.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Classmates of Conway.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Charged with running a disorderly house. They were all acquitted
later that year in a case that established the topless bars,
like the Condor Club, did not violate California's obscenity laws.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Jimmy was crushed. I did a deep dive.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Jimmy was crushed to death against the ceiling, but Teresa Hill,
who was smaller, survived with bruises.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
I'd say, is it possible.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
A janitor discovered them several hours later. So she was
stuck there with Jimmy dead on top of her on
the piano at the ceiling and was discovered by a janitor.
I wonder what happened to Teresa Hill. I'd watch that documentary.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
The Condor Club three years ago became the first adult
entertainment venue designated as a legacy business by the City
of San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Do you know what Jimmy's nickname was?

Speaker 11 (15:21):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Flatso No, it was given to him before his death,
The Knuckle, Jimmy the Beard.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Oh, I was close, Jimmy the Beard.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Mark Saltzman is going to join us in a few
minutes and probably clean this up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
I suppose.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Hey, if you do miss any part of our show,
you can always go back and check out the podcast.
We post it right after the show, and then, of course,
on the weekends, we do our Gas Weekend Fix, which
is an episode that does not air during the week
because of the things that comes out that trash mouth.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
He was forty, she was twenty three. Interesting, is it?

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Gary and Shannon will continue.

Speaker 11 (16:06):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
I had some time to kill.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
And I made my way through too many episodes of
Love is Blind and everybody hates this season and hates
everybody on this show from the go, and I did two,
but for some reason, I fell into another episode and
I took I took the drugs. I took the drugs.
I took the Love is Blind drugs and I got hooked.
And I've been telling people who are like, no, I'm

(16:35):
not watching it.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
I hate everybody.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
I'm like, you have to make it to episode four,
because honestly, it is insane what happens in Love is Blind.
They've gone too far. It's too much. It is cringe.
It was like, I'm cringing. I hit pause, going I
can't do this anymore. I can't watch this play.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Oh my god. I get to it pause like.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
And it's it's And I feel bad that I'm trying
to sell people on this because I want them to
have to live through episode four the way I had
to live through it.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
That's great.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
At the top of next how we're going to do
our trending stories? Also the bane of my existence. These
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because I'm an old man and I need you to
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Speaker 3 (17:23):
But first, it's tech talk.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Good machines are getting smarter.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
This is tech Talk, brought to you by Sky Nat.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
And Mark Saltzman joins us on Thursdays to talk about
tech and everything that is going on.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Mark, how's it been?

Speaker 11 (17:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (17:40):
All good?

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, I'm good.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
All right on my phone instead of our fancy box.
That makes it sound like I'm in the studio with you.
But hopefully it sounds good enough to our listeners. Good
to chat with you. Yeah, just sound great.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
One of the things I was just talking with Shannon
off the air about a doorbell video doorbell thing, and
it can help you with your hoa, it can help
you with your neighbors, it can help you solve crimes,
and now it can help you find missing pets.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
Yeah. Yeah, So I was at Amazon's event in New
York last week where they showed off new hardware, including
their new ring video doorbells, and one of the features
that's coming next month is it's opt in. But should
you miss be missing your dog, let's say he or
she escapes in the neighborhood, you can push a message

(18:32):
out to those who have opted into this feature, to
the community, to your neighborhood, and if the doorbell recognizes
the dog using AI, it will tell the owner that
it's there. And if you are the homeowner who owns
that ring doorbell, you would hopefully bring the dog in
and contact the person, which is all part of this

(18:53):
opt in feature. But you know, according to Amazon, millions
of pets go missing every year in the country. And
so if this can you know, play a small part
to reunite your dog and soon to other animals as well,
but starting with dogs, it's it's a move in the
right direction. Yeah, So this is going to be part
of the new ring service that will be coming starting November.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Do you have a dog.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
We are dog sitting right now, a one hundred and
seventy pound Bernese Mountain dog named Moguli.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Is that the kind of dog that has the little
keg of liquor on it?

Speaker 5 (19:29):
I think that's I think that's a that's a cousin
to the Saint Bernardo.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah. Is this from the Jungle Book? Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
Yeah, my niece named named him that, and yeah, lots
from the neighbors, but he's the most docile, biggest dog
you've you've seen. He just looks at other dogs that
yelp around him. When I took him out for a
walk this morning, he doesn't even looks at them for
a second in terms of keeps walking like he does
no interest in engaging. But yeah, he's big and he's hairy.

(19:58):
But so yeah, rope bo back is on over overtime,
over time right now. But he's so docile. Yeah, Mogli is.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
The best man. How old is?

Speaker 5 (20:09):
He turned seven last week before she went out of town.
She made him liver a liver based birthday.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yum yum, yum, yum yum. Would say that I love it.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
There's a bunch of a bunch of the Amazon stuff
that you were talking about. There's an article from the
National Post that that we will also throw a link
up to. But I was also interested in Meta using
your conversations with its ai chatbot in order to turn
around and market products to you.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
They're going to sell you stuff.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
So there's been, as you would expect, some pushback on this,
and the details are still a bit vague. But companies,
even though they're raking in like countless, uh, countless millions,
if not billions, all the big tech companies that they
still want more. So we're seeing that as saying that
they want to customize ads that you're seeing based on

(21:14):
what you're writing, but not knowing that it's you Gary
or you Shannon. It's it's it's like anonymized, but they
still know that you're interested in something and they're going
to cater things to you. Now, there's obviously we're going
to see if this actually rolls out. And similarly, I
read today that Samsung with their new fridges, you know,

(21:34):
they have these screens on them. They're going to these
fridges start at eighteen hundred dollars. They're going to start
displaying ads and promotions on the screen for you based
on your case literally, which is obviously very upsetting to
some people as well. I mean, it just doesn't end.
We're paying for you know, we talked about Amazon a

(21:54):
moment ago. We're paying for Amazon Prime, and now they're
putting ads back into the TV shows and movies unless
you pay more. But we're already paying for Amazon Prime.
So yeah, this is a trend. That's a disturbing trend,
but it could be the way it's gonna gokay, yet,

(22:15):
Meta is so big and they make so much money,
with the exception of WhatsApp because there aren't really ads
yet on WhatsApp. That's but everything else like threads and
Facebook and Instagram that feeds the WhatsApp, you know, because
that's that's the one they haven't really monetized yet. So
this it's it's gonna we're going to start seeing more
stuff on WhatsApp for us.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Unfortunately, Amazon's having its Prime Days of course, and there's
always great tech products that you can get during Amazon
Prime Days. Any suggestions, Yeah, there's a couple.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
So today's the last day of their Fall Prime Day,
So if you are looking to buy some holiday gifts
a little bit earlier, then you may have anticipated a
couple of ones i'd rattle off here. Apple air Tags
a four pack for sixty five bucks is thirty four
percent off. That's a really great price, so if you

(23:08):
do have to be an iPhone user, But they're the
best bluetooth tracker, I would argue. I just wrote an
article yesterday for Costco Connection magazine about air Tag, so yeah,
certainly the best to track all of your stuff from
your suitcase to your wallet. To your purse, even your
TV remote or your fur a friend, even though Apple
tells you not to put them on dog leashes for
fear that they may swallow them, which is a good point,

(23:30):
but that's a really good price. The Anchor Laptop power
Bank for ninety dollars, which is forty five dollars off,
is a power bank that you would use typically to
charge up your phone or your tablet, but it has
so much power that it can also power up your laptop.
So if you have a laptop with the USBC connection,
this little power bank that you would carry with you

(23:51):
is a twenty five million amp power bank, which is
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Roku Streaming stick Plus is only twenty four dollars, which

(24:12):
is forty percent off. That is one of the best
streaming devices. To turn a regular TV into a smarter one.
Just plug it into the side or the back, and
again for twenty four bucks, you can't go wrong. That's
a good stocking stuffer. And then finally, the Shark AI
robot vacuum with a self emptying base is fifty eight
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(24:36):
an AI powered robot back that you do not need
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base that's plugged into the wall, where it not only recharges,
but dumps all that dust and pet hair and dirt
into another bag that you only have to clean every
month or so. So some good some good deals. They

(24:57):
are on Amazon today.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
So I can I get a robot to empty the
bag that stuff goes in and then I don't have
to take.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Out the trash, take out the freaking track, right, that's
so little of you.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Come on, wow, Mark, we're really getting lazy.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah, thank you so much, Mark.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
And to you have a great rest your Thursday.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Thanks you too.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Make sure you follow Mark on x m arc Underscore
Saltsman Mark Saltzman with a Z All right, coming back
you big better.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
My dad taught me about parlays as a youth, and
I've not stopped thinking about them and dreaming about them
and playing them, since parlays are nothing but fun.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
But it's a big if game.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
If this happens, and if this happens, and if this happens,
and if this happens, then you could be in the money.
But how much fun is it to think about such
a big win off of such a little money.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Gary and Channon will continue.

Speaker 11 (25:58):
You're listening to Gary and Channon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
It's like a spicy pea soup. So I was right.
I love pea soup me too, especially in the fall winter.
Oh this is the perfect weather or no? And it's
four degrees in the meat locker of the studio. Do
you see that I'm wearing a leather jacket, I'm wearing boots.
It is cold. Yes, it's friggin' freezing in here. Every

(26:29):
single day I come in here wearing winter clothes when.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
It's summer and nobody, nobody cares, They don't do anything
about it.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
And trying to find the exact soundtrack for our show.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
By the way, I have so many jackets and I
live in Los Angeles. It makes no sense. And it's
because I work here.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
This is, sir, our show of Conway and is.

Speaker 9 (26:53):
This morning, Gary and Shannon. Yeah, perhaps we could make
Sharon look like one of the women. And Robert Palm
addicted to love video, what about that interesting beautiful women?

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Okay, okay, Tiger, keep it in your pands.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
You guys forgot to add ding dog with you.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Bub oh yeahs the bridge, Yeah, stood on the fair.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
He doesn't toss him over the bridge.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
He taps him with his foot right on the ass
and they does are launched over.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
He doesn't not even looking at the guy now.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Ding dong with you, bub and then.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
And then the guy knows what's coming. It's not like
it's you're shooting him in the back or anything. He
knows he's not going to escape with Conway standing there.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
Awesome tropical storm Jerry is turning in the Atlantic. U
forecaster said, the tropical storm for Scilla, of course moving
along Mexico's Pacific coast, and that's been causing some problems here.
We're already seeing some rain Ontario and parts north of
that Rancho Cucamonga you're starting to see some and it
kind of follows along that fifteen freeways.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
You're headed out to Vegas.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
So if you're going out there, you're going to run
into some rain throughout the course of the day today,
but we will see the chance for showers and some
thunderstorms today through Saturday as we start to see some
of this moisture come up from from tropical storm and
Hurricane Priscilla.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Parlays parlays explain the parlay parlays are really big right now.
You know we talk about price picks, those are all
parlay bets.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Kind of you know, it's uh yeah, kind of.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
You take you take little bets, but you stack them
up on each other. Sure they call them legs, still les.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
I need you know, the Charters to win by three.
I need the Bengals to win by four. I need
you know, the Ravens to score more than twelve points.
You have a collection of bets and you put them
all on one card.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
You bet.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
You can bet very little. You can bet ten bucks
to win one hundred and twenty on these bets. They're
fun because you don't need a lot of money. And
that's the only way that I bet sports ever, is
on parlay bets, because you know how it works. We've
done fantasy for play for ten years. Even sure things,

(29:30):
games that are a lock are never really a sure
thing or a lock. Something weird happens. Why they play
them exactly. Something weird can always happen the parlays. You're
kind of spreading it around. Also, what I love about
a parlay bet is if I'm in Vegas and I
get the sports card, I go down to the sports
books and I look at the cards and I pick
my bets at you know, eight am or whatever, with

(29:51):
my first class of champagne or seventh. You know, I'm
going to have a whole day of watching sports. And
it entertained the hell out of me. You know, I'm
gonna take the morning game, I'm gonna take the afternoon game.
I'm take the evening game. I've got, you know, somebody
for how many yards in the morning game. I've got
somebody for somebody touchdowns in the afternoon. It just it's

(30:11):
a way to entertain yourself the whole day with not
a lot of money. The fact of the matter is
is you just don't win the parlays. How many parlay
bets have I won? Like, very few, very very few. Well,
especially if you get farther and farther out. I mean,
you can you can do two two different legs and
that's considered a parlay. You could do eight, I mean,

(30:33):
and these different places in Vegas will allow you to
do a ton of them. But like your first I
bet ten bucks and I won one hundred and twenty. Oh,
it locks you in for life. You're like, oh, that
was sweet, that was cool.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
I told you that.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
We started watching Black Rabbit last night. This is the
new Jude Law Jason Bateman show on Netflix, and gambling
has a big part of it. And there's a there's
a scene where Jason Bateman owes money and he's trying
to make a quick buck to pay off what what
he owes.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
And it's one of those things.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
It's freaking insane. It's a blackjack tape doubled down. No, no,
what what drove me insane? The dealer was dealing backwards.
That's what drove me insane.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
I could see the whole thing coming, Like I knew,
knew that guy was coming, but I knew the third guy,
guy playing third base on the left side anyway. But
but he he's trying to win, and he's you know,
way over extended, playing with money that's not even his
to begin with. And you you just can't ever rely

(31:42):
on and that's why they play it. But you can
never rely on the cards to lay the way that
you want them to. That's why the house always, always, always,
always has the edge, and that's why those things are
absolutely palatial hotels and resorts. But this is the way
I look at gambling. I'm paying for entertainment totally. I'm
paying for fun. If you can keep it that way, yes,

(32:05):
if you.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Can keep it that way, right exactly, If it gets
to a point where it's not entertaining and it's not fun,
you got to walk away.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
If you're getting to.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
The point where you can't make the mortgage payment, or
you know, you can't buy your kid's.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Shoes, you got to walk away.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
What I'll approach a day in Vegas like, all right,
I'm going to spend two hundred bucks today on my entertainment.
Most of the time that involves me sitting at a
pigout table where I'm pushing the whole time. Well, that's fine,
that's entertaining for me, and I can make two hundred
dollars go the whole day. As soon as I exceed that,

(32:39):
it stops being fun for me. You know, I'm if
I start if I end up at the casino ATM,
and I've done this countless times.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I feel like an FN loser.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Because not only have you exceeded the amount that you
came with that you were willing to play with, but
now you're paying six or seven or nine dollars for
just your trans action.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
And that's one of the things that I learned the
very first couple of times that I went to casinos
with some buddies outside just after college was there is
the addiction part of it that you don't think of.
But if you're playing cards, you're playing simple game like blackjack, right,
and we're all playing at the same table together. Some
guys are winning, some guys are losing. You think to yourself, Oh,

(33:23):
you know what, all I need is another fifty bucks
or one hundred bucks or two hundred bucks or whatever,
and I can turn this thing right around.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Right, I just need to win a couple of hams.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
It's that mentality that keeps you there, or in your case,
sends you to the ATM feeling awful, and.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
You go to the ATM. At least I do when
I'm in the casino. If I go to the ATM,
I'm going to the ATM in the casino like I'm
buying Heroin, like I'm looking over my shoulder making sure
no one I'm with sees me make my way to
the What I do when I get into a casino
is I identify where the most hidden ATMs are, Like

(34:00):
I don't go to the ones out in the middle
of everywhere, out in the middle of the slots.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
No.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
No.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
If I'm going to be dirty about it.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
If I'm going to exceed the amount of cash I
have in my pocket and I'm gonna have to go
to the ATM and pay nine dollars to take out
my own money, I need to do it in private.
I need to do it in an alley. I need
to do it in a place where the ATM is hidden,
because I don't want to be seen doing that crime.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
When we come back, Huge twelve o'clock hour, how big.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Oh it's you don't even know the kid?

Speaker 6 (34:32):
Yeah? Right?

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Or contract to you on a mechanical piano.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
If you were on the bottom and the person on
top of you was crushed to death by.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Big Shannon, We'll continue right after this.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show, you
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