June 25, 2025 • 29 mins
The Pentagon has initiated an investigation into a leak concerning intelligence related to a strike on Iran. Former President Trump asserts that Iran's nuclear capabilities have been "obliterated," despite comments from a UN watchdog. Spain has reached an agreement with NATO to be exempt from the 5% defense spending goal ahead of the upcoming summit. In the New York primary, Zohran Mamdani has defeated Andrew Cuomo.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Don't get your.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Ass implants at a motel six, a Super eight, really
any sort of hotel. Motel that comes with a numerical digit,
A days in is kind of a wobbler because there's
no number in it. Sometimes a days in is okay,
sometimes it's not. But if your motel's got a number
attached to it, probably don't get any sort of procedure
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done in one of those rooms.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's a rule.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Another rule is pay your hookers, tip your hookers. We've
learned this from the Cia Cartagena. We've learned from all
the scandals that you don't want to go cheap when
it comes to your hookers. And Diddy apparently did not
listen to the show, did not get that lesson because
apparently he was trying to buy escorts on the cheap
(00:54):
on sale escorts. That's something you don't want to skimp on.
If you're paying for sex, pay for sex, do it.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Right if you are well. Part of the reason was basically,
he's playing with other people's money. He's not the one
who was having sex with them.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
He's playing with other people's bodies. It's his money.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, so I mean he's not.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Gonnak, so he's not having sex with them, so he
can get the on sale ones.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Sure, it's wibly what he felt knock off. It's not
like hurting for money obviously.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
By the way, the defense in that case was a
thirty minute presentation.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, it's called it's called that we have no defense defense.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
The prosecutors did drop a few charges. They said that
they weren't going to go after I think one of
them was, uh, one of them was the.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Just ancillary stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
What was it, kidnapping. There was one of them that
was just didn't make any oh arson, that was one. Yeah, Arson,
they're dropping the arson charge against Diddy. Okay, that's uh,
that's how you think you're going to make your case.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
No, that's get rid of the fluff, stick to the heart,
the stuff that you you get the real time for.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
They did say that they're trying to make it easier
for the judge when it comes to jury instructions.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
So that's one of.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
The reasons that they dropped some of those, Yeah, to
make it less confusing. Guests on the point for the
ongoing jury selection our jury issues. Well, listen, there was
a preliminary classified report that said the American bombing of
those nuclear sites in Iran set back the country's nuclear program,
but only by a few months. New York Times and
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CNN reported that the strikes did seal off entrances of
the two facilities that were hit with those big bunker
buster bombs, but did not collapse the underground buildings, at
least according to the early findings in this paper. Now,
the President has said the initial assessment left open the
possibility that the destruction was widespread and actually did not
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come to a conclusion. Okay, there's a couple things about
this that we have to keep in mind as we
talk about this story. Number one is, this is a
defense intelligence agency, it's the Pentagon's intelligence arm and they
do not have anybody on the ground in Iran looking
at this, at least no Americans. There may be they
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may be relying on Iranian agents that work for US.
Maybe they may be relying on Israeli intelligence, who is
obviously very active in Iran. They have been and they
kind of have to be. But he said this morning
that this assessment was done right after the bombs were dropped,
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using signals intelligence basically just basically satellite pictures.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
He's talking with.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
NBC here at this NATO news conference that happened just
this morning.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
It did a report that wasn't finished. We're talking to
us something that took place three days ago.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I understand that's ally the report was done some ways.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Wait a minute, Yes, they didn't see it. All they
can do is take a guess. Now, if you take
a look at the pictures, if you take a look,
how it's all black and you know the fire and
brimstone is all under because it's granted and it's all underground,
you don't show it. But even there, with all of
that being said, the whole area for seventy five yards
around the hole where it hit is black with fire.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Okay, he's arguing something that I'm having a hard time
wrapping my Head's my head around this. In general, this
should never have been leaked. Whoever leaked it needs to
be held accountable because it's not a finished report in
that it usually goes up through the chain of command
before it ever reaches the president and would then be
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disseminated disseminated to the public. This would have gone through
a chain of command and would have actually been vetted
by other intelligence agencies.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Also, I take.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Away two things from this. Number One, if anyone thought
that we went in and erased Iron's nuclear program period,
you're foolish, because there's no way that was going to happen.
The fact that they I knew that there was a
likelihood that we would act, that the United States would
get involved, means that they probably did move around some
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of their stuff. It behooves us to realize that Iran
remains a threat. Just because we successfully made strikes on
where we believe their nuclear weapon program was doesn't mean
that it's completely wiped out, and we should not discount
Iran despite its weekend state right now. So it's not
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the worst thing that we still believe that we have
to have our guard up with Iran. Number Two, the
point is we struck Iran. There was a question in
previous administrations, even in this one, whether we would get involved.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
We did.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
We showed a willingness to get involved, which puts a
ran on guard, which is the important thing.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yes, the assessment itself, this is kind of a fluffy
distraction to I think those bigger issues, and I think
that's a great point. But there's something going on here
with the president. The Secretary of Defense has done the
same thing. They're saying there's no way that anybody can
know exactly what happened underground, and then they say, but
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we know exactly what happened underground, and you can't have
it both ways.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
The President said as much. Basically, there's no.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Way that the people whose job it is to do
a battle damage assessment don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I do because I've seen the pictures.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well, he's looking at the same pictures that the official
that the professionals are and coming to a conclusion on
his own. I do think people are concentrating too much
on the low end of the potential battle damage, because
there is a high end as well. In that same report,
which says they could have completely wiped it out, or
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they could have only set it back by a couple
of months, we simply don't know when we come back.
I have to play for you thete the SoundBite from
Pete Hegseth, who's also at that NATO news conference, who
said something very important to illustrate my point. They can't
know yet exactly what the battle damage is. They can
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say they obliterated it, but they just they can't know
yet physically.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
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Speaker 4 (07:27):
Of the hour.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
We're going to get into Cynthia Gonzales, whose name you
will not do not recognize. Probably she's the vice mayor
of Cuta, Hay and is now in some hot water
and probably facing the federal investigation because she was calling
out local gang members to defend the streets she's from.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I as eighteenth Street where you at? Why aren't you
defending your territory? Get out of here?
Speaker 7 (07:52):
She?
Speaker 8 (07:52):
I mean?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Does she last the day.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I was in Cutahe? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Is this the urge to make a massive deal out
of this, just because I feel like she's one of
the ones that should not have a platform, one.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Of the hyper crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It's kind of like a you know, we don't give
the guy with the furs storming the capitol a segment
right to talk about him and his life and what
his message is.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's because too often the.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Far left or the far rights message is amplified and
it's the crazy freaking people right, But she's a sitting
member of an elected board in La County, and that
is why she is going to get the attention.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And hopefully get booted forthwith.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
In terms of what Trump is saying with the amount
of damage in Iran done, I do not, or nor
should really anybody put all their eggs in that basket.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Of course, he's going to say it was obliterated.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Of course he's going to say that they went and
they achieved the goal. That's what he's supposed to do,
and that's what he does.
Speaker 9 (09:00):
Us.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
He jumps to the conclusions that he wants to be
the final answer, right, But we just do not know.
We physically can't know what happened underground yet.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Secretary of Defense Pete Haggseth was standing with the President
and the Secretary of State at that NATO news conference
that went on for quite a while this morning and
was talking about this same thing and blasting the media
different networks for reporting the low end of the battle
damage assessment, the preliminary assessment which said that it might
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not have done as much damage.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Go go ahead.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I was just going to say, before I forget I
heard this comparison. It's like if Republicans were It's not
the same exactly the same with apples and oranges. But
it's like if Republicans and or the media were pissed
off that Obama took out Osama bin Laden, We're like, well.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Did he really get him?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I don't know a lot of guys that look like
the day after, you know what I mean, Like it's
one thing to sit and be like, well, we don't know.
We've gotten some reports that the damage may not be
as significant as we've heard from the president.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
But everyone ran with this ball like, well, he didn't
really do anything. They didn't really do anything.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
It's like, what as a country, aren't you who's rooting
for Iran to have a nuclear program?
Speaker 6 (10:23):
Right?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (10:25):
Here's pete because all of the evidence of what was
just bombed by twelve thirty thousand pound bombs is buried
under a mountain, devastated and obliterated. So if you want
to make an assessment of what happened at four doah,
you better get a big shovel and go really deep
because Iran's nuclear program is obliterated, and somebody somewhere is
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trying to leak something to say, oh with low confidence.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
We think maybe it's moderate.
Speaker 8 (10:53):
Those that drop the bombs precisely in the right place
know exactly what happened when that exploded, and you know
who else knows?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Iran, Okay, I just want to point this part out
one more time.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
So if you want to make an assessment of what
happened at four doah, you better get.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
A big shovel.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
He's he's allowing the fact that we just don't know yet.
He even referred to this being a report that basically
said that the comp or the level of confidence in
this report is low because it is too early. It
is way too early to figure this out. And all
they have to do. All the White House has to
do is say, listen, we're confident that we obliterated it,
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and we look forward to the battle damage assessments that
say just that, but it's going to take some time.
One of the other guys that was reporting on this
was General Wesley Clark, a former head of NATO, former
presidential candidate. As a matter of fact, and said just basically,
there's there's no way we could know how severe or
not the damage was.
Speaker 10 (11:54):
We don't know if this is correct. We don't know
exactly about the materials may have been removed from the site.
We don't know whether there are rooms inside Poorto that
were protected. We just don't know enough, so it's got
to have some all on the ground assessment. There is
there radiation leaking from the site, well, that would be
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a pretty good indicator that we did hit it. We
don't know that. As far as we know from our
aerial surveys and defense intelligence collection, there was no radiation
that came out from the site, So we just don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
And let me roll back the history button here for
just a second. Remember Donald Rumsfeld, Remember Donald Rumsfeld talking
about what we know and what we don't know.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting
to me because as we know there are known knowns,
there are things we know we know, we also know
there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know
there's some things we do not know. They're also unknown unknowns,
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the ones we don't know we don't know, And if
one looks throughout the history of our country and other
free countries, it is the latter category that tend to
be the difficult ones.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Oh my goodness, I love that one. That was the
greatest hit. Thank you for bringing it back.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
There are knowns and then there are no unknown You
don't know that you know about.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
We don't even know how much we don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Democratic leaders want to win over young voters as they
look towards the twenty twenty six twenty twenty eight elections.
How are they going to get those voting blocks back?
The voting blocks they've lost since the Obama years. Is
this Democratic socialist who has potential anti Semitic comments in
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his tast soon to be mayor of New York City?
The answer, I think this is the wrong direction, but
maybe that makes me an old.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
The city with the largest Jewish population in the world
thirty percent, is about to I believe elect this guy.
My God, we'll talk about zoron Mom, Donnie, we'll talk
about NATO. We got a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I found out, by the way, where a lot of
his new money came from. And it won't surprise you.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
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Speaker 1 (14:17):
We really need to do something about my mother's consumption
of this show. She sent me a text last night,
how are you low t question mark?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Haha, Well, that explains what she wrote to me. Also,
really the ceasefire between Israel and Iran, of course, in
the background of everything that's been going on, appears to
be holding. The ceasefire gives rise to some cautious hope
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for maybe a longer term piece, although Tehran continues to
insist it's not giving up.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
It's a nuclear program.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Obviously, we spent some time talking about the questions rounding
what kind of damage the extent of damage to Iran's
nuclear programs. There's a lot of questions about the four
hundred kilograms of enriched uranium that we know Iran has
slash had and where it is. Pete Hegseth says as
Secretary of Defense, he believes it's buried, but there are
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some other smart people who also say it's likely that Iran,
reading all of the tea leaves, which were pretty bright
and shiny that an attack was coming, was able to
move some of that stuff. I read one writer, David Ignatius,
I believe it was who said Israelis and Americans know
where it is, but haven't said anything else about it.
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So they're not saying if they know it's buried in
one of those nuclear facilities or it was able to
be moved and they are keeping track of it.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
We just don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Speaking of buried, did you hear about the bear in Michigan?
There's a flurry of bear stories, one of which we'll
get to coming up in the next hour about a
bear who took a nap. It's a much better story
than that. But anyway, this bear in Michigan. Have you
heard about this bear? This black bear had a large
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lid stuck around its neck for two years. They're finally
able to free this bear, thankfully. There was a Michigan
bear specialist by the name of Cody Norton.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Sounds like a fun job.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
He said, it's incredible that the bear was able to
survive for two years with that lid around his neck.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I mean, it'd be very hard to feed yourself.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Well, yeah, it's cutting off his I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I mean, you know, when you're trying to eat stuff
and you've got a thing around your neck, it's hard
to you know, like.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
One of those dog cones. After you get him fixed.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
But now he's cool.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
He was safely trapped and the lid has been removed
and he's living his life without the lid around his neck.
Good for him, like great, just in time for summer
too hot bear life.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Also, later on in the show, we're going to talk
about why Katel Marte was crying in the middle of
the Diamondbacks game last night on the field.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
We're doing a men full try cry segment.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yeah, okay, So we mentioned the President and the Secretary
of Defense in Secretary of State, they've all been in
the Netherlands to deal with this NATO summit. One of
the big deals that came out of the NATO summit
is what they're referring to as the Washington Treaty, reaffirming
the ironclad commitment to collective defense as enshrined in Article five,
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which is that attack on one is an attack on
all of the thirty two allies that exist within NATO,
but also a huge increase in defense spending that President
Trump had demanded, and all of the leaders restated their
commitment to defend each other from attack. I said, the
one country that's not saying they're going to drop now
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five percent of their GDP on defense is the nation
of Spain.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Are you going to share directly with Spain about.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
I'm going to negotiate directly with Spain.
Speaker 10 (18:03):
I'm going to do it myself.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
They're going to pay, they'll pay more money this way.
You should tell them to go back and pay. You're
a reporter, tell them to go back. They ort to
join all of those countries that are paying five percent,
Spain's going to be just about the only one that's not.
They were the most hostile toward toward doing it. It
just doesn't make sense to.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Me, Okay.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
So, up to this point, the expectation was that the
nations in NATO would be spending at least two percent
of their GDP on defense, which would in turn sort
of be a common defense. They've agreed to bump that
up to five percent, although the numbers are a little
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bit different. Instead of just two percent of GDP for defense,
they're going to do three and a half percent on
the boots, the bullets and the beans, the troops and
the weapons, and then about a one and a half
sent GDP on things like cyber security, transportation, security, pipeline security,
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roads and bridges that would be upgraded to handle heavy
military equipment if necessary. And it's not just that President
Trump comes in, drops his belt on the table and
says you guys got to pay up. There's a renewed
threat from Russia and the expectation that Vladimir Putin had
his site set on something other than just Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
All Right, the future of the Democratic Party. Are we
getting a glimpse of it in New York with this
Democratic Socialist moving on in the mayor's race.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
We'll talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
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Speaker 3 (19:43):
I mentioned Katel Marte, a player for the Arizona Diamondbacks,
is cry literally crying on the field last night.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
We'll talk about it.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Because there's a security issue that seems to be it's always.
I shouldn't say it's always. There are always concerns about
security around professional sporting events like that, because there's sixty
thousand people and if a handful of them wanted to
get on the field at any given time, they would
overwhelm security at first. But there has been an increase
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in the number of violent threats death threats that have
been received by professional athletes, and at least one team
is turning to off duty cops to be.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Sort of head.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
They've always had heads of security, but a more aggressive approach,
shall we say so, we'll talk about that next hour
eleven o'clock.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It's nothing new, but it really does screw with people.
There are people underneath those uniforms, and I mean sometimes
it ruins people. It sends some of these guys kids
really into therapy. Not that that therapy is bad or
a big issue, but anyway, the NBA, speaking of the.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Draft, is already here. What when we just finished the season?
Last was that? Last week?
Speaker 9 (21:04):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
This week?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
It was Sunday? Game seven was Sunday? And the draft
is I believe today. Yeah, the first round of the
draft begins tonight and the Mavericks have the top pick.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Can we just let me?
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Can't we just base like a month?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I am kind of with you on that. Can we
just let baseball hang for a little bit?
Speaker 8 (21:23):
Like?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
What's the rush?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
The NBA playoffs lasted seven months, you know, and it's
like and now.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
We're back at it?
Speaker 4 (21:30):
What training camp over.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
In that vein?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
The fortieth edition of the Air Jordan shoe is going
to be released next month. The Yeah, the next edition
of the signature line was unveiled today. Takes inspiration from
some of the most popular models, including the Air Jordan
three and the Air Jordan five. This will go on
sale July twelfth for two hundred bucks. Nine unique colorways
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will be released over the coming years.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
One hundred bucks. Remember when those well, never mind, those
are going to be an old man's state. Yes, it
was Zorn. Mam Donnie, this very little known New York
State Assembly member, is going to be likely the next
mayor of New York City. He won yesterday's Democratic primary. Well,
it looks like he's going to win the Democratic primary
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that comes up later. But uh, Andrew Cuomo, the one
time governor of the state of New York, who.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Was an awful, awful, awful person to run. It's just
these two are what you've got here.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I think there were eight candidates on that Democratic primary
ballot yesterday, and mom Donnie. Again, it's going to take
a while to make it official because this was all
ranked choice voting. But I think he, Mam Donnie got
something like forty plus forty three.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, Womo's already conceded. It's it's pretty much a done deal.
It is a done deal.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
So guy, this is a guy.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Well, let me two sound bites, one of them from
Bill de Blasio, also one time mayor of New York
who was so awful that he got drummed out of
that position.
Speaker 9 (23:07):
I think we need to look at the facts that
whenever these bold progressive ideas are put out there, the
status quo folks will say it's impossible. The New York
Times did that, and they're editorial a week ago they
said his ideas were impossible. They said the exact same
thing about me and pre k for all twelve years ago,
and they were wrong. So I think he has a
wherewithal to get some of this done and to build
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a kind of surge of support. And let's face it,
the guy is an incredible communicator.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
So Democrats need to get back some voting blocks. They
need to get back the youth, They need to get
back the minority groups for the twenty twenty six twenty
twenty eight elections. These are two key blocks that they
have lost since the Obama years. And the far left
positions are what you're looking at with this guy and
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his success. And he had this, as we reported earlier,
he had this influx of cash and donations that really
propelled him in the past just two three weeks alone,
just tons of money was funneled into this campaign. His
positions used to be a risk in New York Israel's
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actions in Gaza. He's called genocide, He's called for new
taxes on business. This is the far left stuff that
the national Democratic leaders get a little bit antsy and
nervous about. Do Democrats have this kind of candidate on
a local, big level, like mayor of New York while
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having a more moderate voice in the national positions? Is
that a conversation that they're having. They can't seem to
agree on what they're going to be, what their identity
is going to be as a Democratic party. Look no
further than the DNC, which right now is everyone's at
each other's throat, knives out. So is this a way
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forward for them that on a local level, for the
cities that are like New York or Chicago or LA
they have these socialist mayors that speak for the far left,
and that placates enough people, people who understand, you'll get
nowhere in Congress with this kind of candidate. It it
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gives them enough happiness in their far left hearts. To
have local leaders that are this progressive gives them a
little taste, little tastaste of it, but.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
While grinning and bearing it.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
On the national level, if they want to get anything
done for Democrats in Congress, you can't have the AOC's
the Bernie Sanders. It's just it's a very nice thing
that they want for themselves. It just isn't going to
work nationally. You need to be more moderate.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Former Democrat who is now going to be running also
for mayor as an independent, is the incumbent.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
He is the guy who's in the office right now,
Eric Adams.
Speaker 11 (26:02):
We're not going backwards. He's a snake oil salesman. He
would say and do anything to get elected. Think about
this more moment. He wants to raise one he wants
to raise tax on one percent of New York is
high end commernis. As a mayor, you don't have the
authority to do that. You know who has the authority
(26:23):
to do that in assembly man, which he is now.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
There's something also going on here that this guy apparently
was able to tap into that others couldn't. That message
about New York City is becoming unaffordable struck a chord
with enough people, specifically Democrats. I don't know if it
translates into a general election theme. But with Democrats, he's
(26:47):
hyper focused on making things affordable, the free buses, raising
the taxes on the ridge, that sort of thing. But
he was also, in terms of marketing himself, able to
come up with the TikTok videos, the YouTube, the longer form,
you know, the short commercials that would then be expanded
(27:07):
on social media that people could follow. One Democratic strategist
described him as a blend of Obama's happy Warrior with
Bernie Sanders populist anger that this is the way that
they're going to be able to do it.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Okay, those are two very popular magnetic figures that carry
with each of them quite a bit of gravitas.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I saw this guy talk last night that ain't it?
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Yeah? Oh, I know, and that line.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
That's why I wonder, you know, the concern is that
a Democrat winning the primary in New York City, as
blue as it is, means that he's going to be
the next mayor. I mean, we could cross our fingers
and say, I hope not, because I don't want to
see a major city in the United States run by
a Democratic socialist.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
You want to have the low t conversation. That's what
was behind that podium. That's saying something for New York
that's not nice es.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Look at the leadership in LA.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I should I should not comment on his testosterone? Why
not thereof But when people say that, that's what they mean.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Not me.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
The vice mayor of cut A Hay must be a
nice job, might lose that job.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
We'll talk about what she did.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
It's the worst thing to like get caught off my
like or if she had that conversation with like a group
of people in a bar somewhere or whatever. But to
purposely put yourself on camera saying that and then post it.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
She thought she looked good too. You see that full makeup,
red lipstick she had on.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
All I heard was dumb ass. I was distracted.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Don't get your.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Ass implants at a motel six, a Super eight, really
any sort of hotel. Motel that comes with a numerical digit,
A days in is kind of a wobbler because there's
no number in it. Sometimes a days in is okay,
sometimes it's not. But if your motel's got a number
attached to it, probably don't get any sort of procedure
(00:31):
done in one of those rooms.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's a rule.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Another rule is pay your hookers, tip your hookers. We've
learned this from the Cia Cartagena. We've learned from all
the scandals that you don't want to go cheap when
it comes to your hookers. And Diddy apparently did not
listen to the show, did not get that lesson because
apparently he was trying to buy escorts on the cheap
(00:54):
on sale escorts. That's something you don't want to skimp on.
If you're paying for sex, pay for sex, do it.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Right if you are well. Part of the reason was basically,
he's playing with other people's money. He's not the one
who was having sex with them.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
He's playing with other people's bodies. It's his money.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, so I mean he's not.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Gonnak, so he's not having sex with them, so he
can get the on sale ones.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Sure, it's wibly what he felt knock off. It's not
like hurting for money obviously.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
By the way, the defense in that case was a
thirty minute presentation.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, it's called it's called that we have no defense defense.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
The prosecutors did drop a few charges. They said that
they weren't going to go after I think one of
them was, uh, one of them was the.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Just ancillary stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
What was it, kidnapping. There was one of them that
was just didn't make any oh arson, that was one. Yeah, Arson,
they're dropping the arson charge against Diddy. Okay, that's uh,
that's how you think you're going to make your case.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
No, that's get rid of the fluff, stick to the heart,
the stuff that you you get the real time for.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
They did say that they're trying to make it easier
for the judge when it comes to jury instructions.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
So that's one of.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
The reasons that they dropped some of those, Yeah, to
make it less confusing. Guests on the point for the
ongoing jury selection our jury issues. Well, listen, there was
a preliminary classified report that said the American bombing of
those nuclear sites in Iran set back the country's nuclear program,
but only by a few months. New York Times and
(02:27):
CNN reported that the strikes did seal off entrances of
the two facilities that were hit with those big bunker
buster bombs, but did not collapse the underground buildings, at
least according to the early findings in this paper. Now,
the President has said the initial assessment left open the
possibility that the destruction was widespread and actually did not
(02:49):
come to a conclusion. Okay, there's a couple things about
this that we have to keep in mind as we
talk about this story. Number one is, this is a
defense intelligence agency, it's the Pentagon's intelligence arm and they
do not have anybody on the ground in Iran looking
at this, at least no Americans. There may be they
(03:10):
may be relying on Iranian agents that work for US.
Maybe they may be relying on Israeli intelligence, who is
obviously very active in Iran. They have been and they
kind of have to be. But he said this morning
that this assessment was done right after the bombs were dropped,
(03:32):
using signals intelligence basically just basically satellite pictures.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
He's talking with.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
NBC here at this NATO news conference that happened just
this morning.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
It did a report that wasn't finished. We're talking to
us something that took place three days ago.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I understand that's ally the report was done some ways.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Wait a minute, Yes, they didn't see it. All they
can do is take a guess. Now, if you take
a look at the pictures, if you take a look,
how it's all black and you know the fire and
brimstone is all under because it's granted and it's all underground,
you don't show it. But even there, with all of
that being said, the whole area for seventy five yards
around the hole where it hit is black with fire.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Okay, he's arguing something that I'm having a hard time
wrapping my Head's my head around this. In general, this
should never have been leaked. Whoever leaked it needs to
be held accountable because it's not a finished report in
that it usually goes up through the chain of command
before it ever reaches the president and would then be
(04:34):
disseminated disseminated to the public. This would have gone through
a chain of command and would have actually been vetted
by other intelligence agencies.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Also, I take.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Away two things from this. Number One, if anyone thought
that we went in and erased Iron's nuclear program period,
you're foolish, because there's no way that was going to happen.
The fact that they I knew that there was a
likelihood that we would act, that the United States would
get involved, means that they probably did move around some
(05:06):
of their stuff. It behooves us to realize that Iran
remains a threat. Just because we successfully made strikes on
where we believe their nuclear weapon program was doesn't mean
that it's completely wiped out, and we should not discount
Iran despite its weekend state right now. So it's not
(05:27):
the worst thing that we still believe that we have
to have our guard up with Iran. Number Two, the
point is we struck Iran. There was a question in
previous administrations, even in this one, whether we would get involved.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
We did.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
We showed a willingness to get involved, which puts a
ran on guard, which is the important thing.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yes, the assessment itself, this is kind of a fluffy
distraction to I think those bigger issues, and I think
that's a great point. But there's something going on here
with the president. The Secretary of Defense has done the
same thing. They're saying there's no way that anybody can
know exactly what happened underground, and then they say, but
(06:16):
we know exactly what happened underground, and you can't have
it both ways.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
The President said as much. Basically, there's no.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Way that the people whose job it is to do
a battle damage assessment don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I do because I've seen the pictures.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well, he's looking at the same pictures that the official
that the professionals are and coming to a conclusion on
his own. I do think people are concentrating too much
on the low end of the potential battle damage, because
there is a high end as well. In that same report,
which says they could have completely wiped it out, or
(06:55):
they could have only set it back by a couple
of months, we simply don't know when we come back.
I have to play for you thete the SoundBite from
Pete Hegseth, who's also at that NATO news conference, who
said something very important to illustrate my point. They can't
know yet exactly what the battle damage is. They can
(07:16):
say they obliterated it, but they just they can't know
yet physically.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
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Am sixty top.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Of the hour.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
We're going to get into Cynthia Gonzales, whose name you
will not do not recognize. Probably she's the vice mayor
of Cuta, Hay and is now in some hot water
and probably facing the federal investigation because she was calling
out local gang members to defend the streets she's from.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I as eighteenth Street where you at? Why aren't you
defending your territory? Get out of here?
Speaker 7 (07:52):
She?
Speaker 8 (07:52):
I mean?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Does she last the day.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I was in Cutahe? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Is this the urge to make a massive deal out
of this, just because I feel like she's one of
the ones that should not have a platform, one.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Of the hyper crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It's kind of like a you know, we don't give
the guy with the furs storming the capitol a segment
right to talk about him and his life and what
his message is.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's because too often the.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Far left or the far rights message is amplified and
it's the crazy freaking people right, But she's a sitting
member of an elected board in La County, and that
is why she is going to get the attention.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And hopefully get booted forthwith.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
In terms of what Trump is saying with the amount
of damage in Iran done, I do not, or nor
should really anybody put all their eggs in that basket.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Of course, he's going to say it was obliterated.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Of course he's going to say that they went and
they achieved the goal. That's what he's supposed to do,
and that's what he does.
Speaker 9 (09:00):
Us.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
He jumps to the conclusions that he wants to be
the final answer, right, But we just do not know.
We physically can't know what happened underground yet.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Secretary of Defense Pete Haggseth was standing with the President
and the Secretary of State at that NATO news conference
that went on for quite a while this morning and
was talking about this same thing and blasting the media
different networks for reporting the low end of the battle
damage assessment, the preliminary assessment which said that it might
(09:37):
not have done as much damage.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Go go ahead.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I was just going to say, before I forget I
heard this comparison. It's like if Republicans were It's not
the same exactly the same with apples and oranges. But
it's like if Republicans and or the media were pissed
off that Obama took out Osama bin Laden, We're like, well.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Did he really get him?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I don't know a lot of guys that look like
the day after, you know what I mean, Like it's
one thing to sit and be like, well, we don't know.
We've gotten some reports that the damage may not be
as significant as we've heard from the president.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
But everyone ran with this ball like, well, he didn't
really do anything. They didn't really do anything.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
It's like, what as a country, aren't you who's rooting
for Iran to have a nuclear program?
Speaker 6 (10:23):
Right?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (10:25):
Here's pete because all of the evidence of what was
just bombed by twelve thirty thousand pound bombs is buried
under a mountain, devastated and obliterated. So if you want
to make an assessment of what happened at four doah,
you better get a big shovel and go really deep
because Iran's nuclear program is obliterated, and somebody somewhere is
(10:47):
trying to leak something to say, oh with low confidence.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
We think maybe it's moderate.
Speaker 8 (10:53):
Those that drop the bombs precisely in the right place
know exactly what happened when that exploded, and you know
who else knows?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Iran, Okay, I just want to point this part out
one more time.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
So if you want to make an assessment of what
happened at four doah, you better get.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
A big shovel.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
He's he's allowing the fact that we just don't know yet.
He even referred to this being a report that basically
said that the comp or the level of confidence in
this report is low because it is too early. It
is way too early to figure this out. And all
they have to do. All the White House has to
do is say, listen, we're confident that we obliterated it,
(11:34):
and we look forward to the battle damage assessments that
say just that, but it's going to take some time.
One of the other guys that was reporting on this
was General Wesley Clark, a former head of NATO, former
presidential candidate. As a matter of fact, and said just basically,
there's there's no way we could know how severe or
not the damage was.
Speaker 10 (11:54):
We don't know if this is correct. We don't know
exactly about the materials may have been removed from the site.
We don't know whether there are rooms inside Poorto that
were protected. We just don't know enough, so it's got
to have some all on the ground assessment. There is
there radiation leaking from the site, well, that would be
(12:16):
a pretty good indicator that we did hit it. We
don't know that. As far as we know from our
aerial surveys and defense intelligence collection, there was no radiation
that came out from the site, So we just don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
And let me roll back the history button here for
just a second. Remember Donald Rumsfeld, Remember Donald Rumsfeld talking
about what we know and what we don't know.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting
to me because as we know there are known knowns,
there are things we know we know, we also know
there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know
there's some things we do not know. They're also unknown unknowns,
(13:00):
the ones we don't know we don't know, And if
one looks throughout the history of our country and other
free countries, it is the latter category that tend to
be the difficult ones.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Oh my goodness, I love that one. That was the
greatest hit. Thank you for bringing it back.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
There are knowns and then there are no unknown You
don't know that you know about.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
We don't even know how much we don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Democratic leaders want to win over young voters as they
look towards the twenty twenty six twenty twenty eight elections.
How are they going to get those voting blocks back?
The voting blocks they've lost since the Obama years. Is
this Democratic socialist who has potential anti Semitic comments in
(13:43):
his tast soon to be mayor of New York City?
The answer, I think this is the wrong direction, but
maybe that makes me an old.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
The city with the largest Jewish population in the world
thirty percent, is about to I believe elect this guy.
My God, we'll talk about zoron Mom, Donnie, we'll talk
about NATO. We got a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I found out, by the way, where a lot of
his new money came from. And it won't surprise you.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
We really need to do something about my mother's consumption
of this show. She sent me a text last night,
how are you low t question mark?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Haha, Well, that explains what she wrote to me. Also,
really the ceasefire between Israel and Iran, of course, in
the background of everything that's been going on, appears to
be holding. The ceasefire gives rise to some cautious hope
(14:50):
for maybe a longer term piece, although Tehran continues to
insist it's not giving up.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
It's a nuclear program.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Obviously, we spent some time talking about the questions rounding
what kind of damage the extent of damage to Iran's
nuclear programs. There's a lot of questions about the four
hundred kilograms of enriched uranium that we know Iran has
slash had and where it is. Pete Hegseth says as
Secretary of Defense, he believes it's buried, but there are
(15:20):
some other smart people who also say it's likely that Iran,
reading all of the tea leaves, which were pretty bright
and shiny that an attack was coming, was able to
move some of that stuff. I read one writer, David Ignatius,
I believe it was who said Israelis and Americans know
where it is, but haven't said anything else about it.
(15:43):
So they're not saying if they know it's buried in
one of those nuclear facilities or it was able to
be moved and they are keeping track of it.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
We just don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Speaking of buried, did you hear about the bear in Michigan?
There's a flurry of bear stories, one of which we'll
get to coming up in the next hour about a
bear who took a nap. It's a much better story
than that. But anyway, this bear in Michigan. Have you
heard about this bear? This black bear had a large
(16:12):
lid stuck around its neck for two years. They're finally
able to free this bear, thankfully. There was a Michigan
bear specialist by the name of Cody Norton.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Sounds like a fun job.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
He said, it's incredible that the bear was able to
survive for two years with that lid around his neck.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I mean, it'd be very hard to feed yourself.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Well, yeah, it's cutting off his I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I mean, you know, when you're trying to eat stuff
and you've got a thing around your neck, it's hard
to you know, like.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
One of those dog cones. After you get him fixed.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
But now he's cool.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
He was safely trapped and the lid has been removed
and he's living his life without the lid around his neck.
Good for him, like great, just in time for summer
too hot bear life.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Also, later on in the show, we're going to talk
about why Katel Marte was crying in the middle of
the Diamondbacks game last night on the field.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
We're doing a men full try cry segment.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yeah, okay, So we mentioned the President and the Secretary
of Defense in Secretary of State, they've all been in
the Netherlands to deal with this NATO summit. One of
the big deals that came out of the NATO summit
is what they're referring to as the Washington Treaty, reaffirming
the ironclad commitment to collective defense as enshrined in Article five,
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which is that attack on one is an attack on
all of the thirty two allies that exist within NATO,
but also a huge increase in defense spending that President
Trump had demanded, and all of the leaders restated their
commitment to defend each other from attack. I said, the
one country that's not saying they're going to drop now
(17:54):
five percent of their GDP on defense is the nation
of Spain.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Are you going to share directly with Spain about.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
I'm going to negotiate directly with Spain.
Speaker 10 (18:03):
I'm going to do it myself.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
They're going to pay, they'll pay more money this way.
You should tell them to go back and pay. You're
a reporter, tell them to go back. They ort to
join all of those countries that are paying five percent,
Spain's going to be just about the only one that's not.
They were the most hostile toward toward doing it. It
just doesn't make sense to.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Me, Okay.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
So, up to this point, the expectation was that the
nations in NATO would be spending at least two percent
of their GDP on defense, which would in turn sort
of be a common defense. They've agreed to bump that
up to five percent, although the numbers are a little
(18:46):
bit different. Instead of just two percent of GDP for defense,
they're going to do three and a half percent on
the boots, the bullets and the beans, the troops and
the weapons, and then about a one and a half
sent GDP on things like cyber security, transportation, security, pipeline security,
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roads and bridges that would be upgraded to handle heavy
military equipment if necessary. And it's not just that President
Trump comes in, drops his belt on the table and
says you guys got to pay up. There's a renewed
threat from Russia and the expectation that Vladimir Putin had
his site set on something other than just Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
All Right, the future of the Democratic Party. Are we
getting a glimpse of it in New York with this
Democratic Socialist moving on in the mayor's race.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
We'll talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Am six forty.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I mentioned Katel Marte, a player for the Arizona Diamondbacks,
is cry literally crying on the field last night.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
We'll talk about it.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Because there's a security issue that seems to be it's always.
I shouldn't say it's always. There are always concerns about
security around professional sporting events like that, because there's sixty
thousand people and if a handful of them wanted to
get on the field at any given time, they would
overwhelm security at first. But there has been an increase
(20:16):
in the number of violent threats death threats that have
been received by professional athletes, and at least one team
is turning to off duty cops to be.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Sort of head.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
They've always had heads of security, but a more aggressive approach,
shall we say so, we'll talk about that next hour
eleven o'clock.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It's nothing new, but it really does screw with people.
There are people underneath those uniforms, and I mean sometimes
it ruins people. It sends some of these guys kids
really into therapy. Not that that therapy is bad or
a big issue, but anyway, the NBA, speaking of the.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Draft, is already here. What when we just finished the season?
Last was that? Last week?
Speaker 9 (21:04):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
This week?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
It was Sunday? Game seven was Sunday? And the draft
is I believe today. Yeah, the first round of the
draft begins tonight and the Mavericks have the top pick.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Can we just let me?
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Can't we just base like a month?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I am kind of with you on that. Can we
just let baseball hang for a little bit?
Speaker 8 (21:23):
Like?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
What's the rush?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
The NBA playoffs lasted seven months, you know, and it's
like and now.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
We're back at it?
Speaker 4 (21:30):
What training camp over.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
In that vein?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
The fortieth edition of the Air Jordan shoe is going
to be released next month. The Yeah, the next edition
of the signature line was unveiled today. Takes inspiration from
some of the most popular models, including the Air Jordan
three and the Air Jordan five. This will go on
sale July twelfth for two hundred bucks. Nine unique colorways
(21:58):
will be released over the coming years.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
One hundred bucks. Remember when those well, never mind, those
are going to be an old man's state. Yes, it
was Zorn. Mam Donnie, this very little known New York
State Assembly member, is going to be likely the next
mayor of New York City. He won yesterday's Democratic primary. Well,
it looks like he's going to win the Democratic primary
(22:20):
that comes up later. But uh, Andrew Cuomo, the one
time governor of the state of New York, who.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Was an awful, awful, awful person to run. It's just
these two are what you've got here.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I think there were eight candidates on that Democratic primary
ballot yesterday, and mom Donnie. Again, it's going to take
a while to make it official because this was all
ranked choice voting. But I think he, Mam Donnie got
something like forty plus forty three.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, Womo's already conceded. It's it's pretty much a done deal.
It is a done deal.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
So guy, this is a guy.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Well, let me two sound bites, one of them from
Bill de Blasio, also one time mayor of New York
who was so awful that he got drummed out of
that position.
Speaker 9 (23:07):
I think we need to look at the facts that
whenever these bold progressive ideas are put out there, the
status quo folks will say it's impossible. The New York
Times did that, and they're editorial a week ago they
said his ideas were impossible. They said the exact same
thing about me and pre k for all twelve years ago,
and they were wrong. So I think he has a
wherewithal to get some of this done and to build
(23:28):
a kind of surge of support. And let's face it,
the guy is an incredible communicator.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
So Democrats need to get back some voting blocks. They
need to get back the youth, They need to get
back the minority groups for the twenty twenty six twenty
twenty eight elections. These are two key blocks that they
have lost since the Obama years. And the far left
positions are what you're looking at with this guy and
(23:56):
his success. And he had this, as we reported earlier,
he had this influx of cash and donations that really
propelled him in the past just two three weeks alone,
just tons of money was funneled into this campaign. His
positions used to be a risk in New York Israel's
(24:17):
actions in Gaza. He's called genocide, He's called for new
taxes on business. This is the far left stuff that
the national Democratic leaders get a little bit antsy and
nervous about. Do Democrats have this kind of candidate on
a local, big level, like mayor of New York while
(24:39):
having a more moderate voice in the national positions? Is
that a conversation that they're having. They can't seem to
agree on what they're going to be, what their identity
is going to be as a Democratic party. Look no
further than the DNC, which right now is everyone's at
each other's throat, knives out. So is this a way
(25:03):
forward for them that on a local level, for the
cities that are like New York or Chicago or LA
they have these socialist mayors that speak for the far left,
and that placates enough people, people who understand, you'll get
nowhere in Congress with this kind of candidate. It it
(25:26):
gives them enough happiness in their far left hearts. To
have local leaders that are this progressive gives them a
little taste, little tastaste of it, but.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
While grinning and bearing it.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
On the national level, if they want to get anything
done for Democrats in Congress, you can't have the AOC's
the Bernie Sanders. It's just it's a very nice thing
that they want for themselves. It just isn't going to
work nationally. You need to be more moderate.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Former Democrat who is now going to be running also
for mayor as an independent, is the incumbent.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
He is the guy who's in the office right now,
Eric Adams.
Speaker 11 (26:02):
We're not going backwards. He's a snake oil salesman. He
would say and do anything to get elected. Think about
this more moment. He wants to raise one he wants
to raise tax on one percent of New York is
high end commernis. As a mayor, you don't have the
authority to do that. You know who has the authority
(26:23):
to do that in assembly man, which he is now.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
There's something also going on here that this guy apparently
was able to tap into that others couldn't. That message
about New York City is becoming unaffordable struck a chord
with enough people, specifically Democrats. I don't know if it
translates into a general election theme. But with Democrats, he's
(26:47):
hyper focused on making things affordable, the free buses, raising
the taxes on the ridge, that sort of thing. But
he was also, in terms of marketing himself, able to
come up with the TikTok videos, the YouTube, the longer form,
you know, the short commercials that would then be expanded
(27:07):
on social media that people could follow. One Democratic strategist
described him as a blend of Obama's happy Warrior with
Bernie Sanders populist anger that this is the way that
they're going to be able to do it.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Okay, those are two very popular magnetic figures that carry
with each of them quite a bit of gravitas.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I saw this guy talk last night that ain't it?
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Yeah? Oh, I know, and that line.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
That's why I wonder, you know, the concern is that
a Democrat winning the primary in New York City, as
blue as it is, means that he's going to be
the next mayor. I mean, we could cross our fingers
and say, I hope not, because I don't want to
see a major city in the United States run by
a Democratic socialist.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
You want to have the low t conversation. That's what
was behind that podium. That's saying something for New York
that's not nice es.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Look at the leadership in LA.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I should I should not comment on his testosterone? Why
not thereof But when people say that, that's what they mean.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Not me.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
The vice mayor of cut A Hay must be a
nice job, might lose that job.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
We'll talk about what she did.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
It's the worst thing to like get caught off my
like or if she had that conversation with like a group
of people in a bar somewhere or whatever. But to
purposely put yourself on camera saying that and then post it.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
She thought she looked good too. You see that full makeup,
red lipstick she had on.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
All I heard was dumb ass. I was distracted.
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