May 5, 2025 • 28 mins
Let’s dive into the captivating world of film tariffs! This discussion promises to shed light on how these economic measures impact the film industry and influence the movies we love. In a surprising twist, Trump is looking to reopen Alcatraz, the infamous island prison, after more than six decades! It’s a bold move that’s bound to spark conversations and intrigue across the nation. What could this mean for the historic site and its legacy?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio and app President Trump wants to reopen Alcatraz.
It's like something in kill me with your eyes if
you want to. It's something that your grandfather would say,
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four hundred years ago, what ever happened the way we
used to?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
What about Alcatraz? It's right there, it's perfectly good prison.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Like that is something that God rest his soul, my
grandfather may have said. If you've been to Alcatraz, you
know there's logistically alone, there's no.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Way in hell that thing could be a prison. Again.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Well, remember the reason they shut it down in the
first place is it was too expensive to operate, right,
that was in the.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Fifties, sixties. But it's just it is a mess.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
There's no way that could function as a prison. In
twenty twenty five, like the idea that that was a
serious thing, it was and even a throwaway comment, it wasn't.
It wasn't even like whatever happened to Alcatraz, let's reopen that.
It was like you know that you know a couple
of Manhattan's deep and you're like whatever Alcatraz. This was
like a lucid, sober, serious comment of let's reopen Alcatraz.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
And I'm directing the justice.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
To do this.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Has he ever been there?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I mean, if you've been there, you know that there's
no way that could function. It's it's actually a marvel
that it did function for so long as a prison.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Well, and it currently makes money.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I mean the upkeep on that the way it stands
right now, the upkeep is minimal because you don't have
a bunch of people there, and you can make tens
of millions of dollars a year.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Is a tourist attraction.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I prefer the fan fiction narrative that I came up
with that he's just trying to piss off California and
piss off the Bay Area, which is wildly blue, right,
Like the idea that Trump would reopen something in the
heart of the San Francisco Bay Area, to me, is
a better story just to f with the liberals up there,
rather than him logistically thinking that that's a feasible plan.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
This was him on the lawn of the White House.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
It's a symbol of law in order, and here it's
got quite a history frankly, so I.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Think we're going to do that, and we're looking.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
At it right now. Here's someone take the President on
a drive from La to Vegas and he can look
at all the land out there and say, why aren't
we opening prisons the way we all do the way
we all do? Alcatraz the non starter.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, And then if you work for the Department of
Justice and that got your attention, where you've got an
email this morning when you showed up to work that says, hey,
the President wants us to look at the possibility of
reopening Alcatraz. Have a report on my desk by end
of business today. You're like, wait, what how does that?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I go back to the Devilwar's Praduct And if you've
seen the movie you understand the reference. His staff is
constantly Miranda's staff of you want us to do what?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
How would we even go about doing that?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Like you want us to break into Starbucks to get
your coffee order before it's even open?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
How who do I even call to make that happen?
Like reopen Alcatraz is.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
The same thing, Like what how would I even make this?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
In this plan a reality?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
First of all, you gotta go through all the movies
that have been made about Alcatraz, feasible.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
In the books Dennis Lalade and The Lake.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
The other thing. By the way, big big, what do
you think he just sweeted shit back?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Relax and enjoy my tweets.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
I mean, technically it's a truth social post.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
But the president also said that the movie industry in
America is dying a very fast death. He calls on
international filmmaking incentives a concerted effort by other nations, and
therefore a national security threat. It is in addition to
everything else, messaging and propaganda. So he wants to impose
one hundred percent tariffs on films produced overseas.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Okay, you can't put tariffs on films. It's intellectual property.
You can put up trade barriers, tax film credits, things
like that, but you cannot tear iff the films themselves,
as I understand it, with intellectual.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Property roles, right, because it's not a physical good. So
there's a funny way that the Hollywood reporter writes it up,
and it's sort of like questions that are immediately that
immediately come to mind for anybody who works in the industry.
The production companies all the way down to Actors Union members,
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key grips. Whatever is what in the world is going on?
And the way the Hollywood Reporter writes it is one
of their paragraphs at the risk of saying washing a
policy that may or may not ever come to pass.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
On and on, here's a few questions.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
That's the kind of pattern that we find ourselves in,
especially in these last couple of weeks. And it can
be everything from putting tariffs on foreign made movies to
reopening Alcatraz to the Fed Reserve chairman should be fired
for his you know, unwillingness to raise interest rate lower
interest rates.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
We have to go through in like, okay.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Figure out the is this physically possible for him to
do what he's saying he wants to do?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
And then second is it legal? Is there is there
a mechanism by which he can do this?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Or are we just throwing things into the air seeing
which of the When the wheat comes down and the
chaff blows away, what we're left with.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Hollywood Studio executive scrambling last night to determine all the things.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
You just raised, What does it all mean?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Executives said they were given no prior warning about the
tariff plan, no information about how it would work. They
would would need to drill down on the details that
we talked about, the fact that this is in fact
intellectual property. The idea that you could put up those
barriers to film tax credits and things like that, what
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would those be. It's not as just easy as black
and white. But I mean, none of this tariff business
is is it? No?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Because he keeps he I mean, even if you look
at the biggest player when it comes to tariffs, he's
talking about China, and even again this weekend he said
he's going to lower He's going to lower the tariffs
on China. It's just a matter of when and to
what level there.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I would like to mention that the US movie industry
had a fifteen point three billion dollar trade surplus in
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah, one of the rare economic instances where we do
have a surplus. The amount of stuff that the United
States create when it comes to movies and TV shows
is pretty ridiculous. And we always have been that engine
for that kind of entertainment stuff. And there have not
been outside of a handful of foreign language movies that
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get nominated for Oscars or they end up in film,
film festivals and things like that. There's not a huge
portion of the entertainment industry that comes into the United
States outside of a handful of high profile shows.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Some of the summer's biggest productions, including Miss Emission Impossible,
Jurassic World Rebirth, primarily made or entirely outside of the US.
London has become a thriving hub for Hollywood productions because
of its tax incentives, infrastructure, large sound stages, things like
that English speaking crews no loss in translation there. Avenger
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sequels are going to be filmed there, Disney decided. They
say the total amount of money spent last year on
film and TV productions in the US fell twenty six
percent from two years earlier.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Well, I'm always curious as to how what happened. Immediately
before the President takes to social media and posts this
is it.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Did he hear that Gavin Newsome is trying to keep
film and TV production in California? Yes, I think that's
it exactly. I think so too. I think he's like, oh, well,
f him. Look what I'm going to do. I'm going
to say that it's all in.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
America, because I am the King of America.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Well, when we come back, we have an idea of
what might have prompted this specific truth Social post from
yesterday about one hundred percent tariffs on Ford made films.
That and some of these other questions they still need
to be answered about what it would look like.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
My son had sex with Kimberly Gilfoyle too well, you know,
you know he thinks about that.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI forty.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
If Biden was making these proposals, would you consider them
to be sane and well bought out proposal?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Now? Would you think that he was going over the edge?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Listen?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I didn't think Biden was sane for the past two
and a half years, and was it vocal about it.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
That's the listen.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Take each of these actions in a vacuum and stop
relying on your feelings about one person or the other
and about what makes Just look at this proposal.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
It's half made. It's a half made proposal. It's not
a policy.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
When he tweets something or puts it on truth Social,
he's talking about whatever idea he has in his mind.
It still has to go through this process of the
Department of whatever. In this case, the Department of Commerce
has to come in and say, Okay, how do we tax?
How do we put a tariff on something that is
a movie?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
It's not a physical good.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
He must be exhausting to defend every flippant thought in
this man's head with the weight of all of your seriousness, right,
I mean god, I would be exhausted.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Just relax and have a laugh at it. He wants
to reopen Alcatraz.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You don't have to defend this like it's the effing constitution.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Just realize it's freaking nuts.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
You like the guy, it's nuts, Take it with a
great assault and move on.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
It's a symbol. This is a feeling in symbols. At
this point, now we were talking, I'm so glad.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I don't have a crazy person that I have to
defend with all of my seriousness at every turn.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
That sounds awful.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
So the tariffs that he wants to impose on foreign
movies apparently was the result of contact that he made
with John Voight. John Voight, Sylvester Stallone Mel Gibson were
three guys that President Trump had apparently asked to be
his ambassadors to Hollywood, and as far as we know,
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the only one who's actually been taking meetings and talking
about this is John Voight. According to several sources, The
Hollywood Reporter says that he and John Voyd and his manager,
a guy named Stephen Paul, have been talking with studio heads,
the heads of some of the unions in Hollywood about
this proposal about how to boost domestic production of movies
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and films. And so far, so far, the president apparently
has interpreted this advice now to be sort of the
punitive way he does it, which is we're going to
impose one hundred percent tariffs on foreign films. Again, none
of the details have been worked out about how it's
going to work. And this isn't the Hollywood of the thirties,
forties and fifties, where you had a handful of studios
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that dominated the world when it came to entertainment. Now
you've got streaming services that are just as if not
more powerful than some of those old stand by studios
that we've had.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
So what do we do with those?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
You know, to my point about having a crazy friend
that you defend, we all have that friend, right comes
up with the ideas like we should go to Africa
next week, Let's do it. Let's look at flights road
trip and they're super serious, right, and they're super serious. Listen,
I've been this person. I've been this person numerous countless times.
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But also with these people myself included, is you kind
of go, You're like, okay, yeah, totally, let's do it.
Let's go, and then you just let them kind of
forget about the idea.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
You just kind of like, you can't take it seriously.
You can't.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Speaking as somebody who behaves like this, who is an
impulsive person like the president.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
You can't take it seriously.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Just let us have our crazy ideas and putting the
full force of our personality behind it, and then.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Just let it.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Just don't sit, don't know, hold meetings about how to
make this happen, just let them react to things.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
And then just let them live there.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
They'll forget, they'll forget the exactly.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Somebody said that they thought I think I saw on TikTok.
Somebody said, is he just like watching old movies or
something and goes alcatraz.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, let's close that. I mean, that's I get it.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Like my mind works the same way. It's like, well,
we were in whatever city we were in, and I
was like, let's rent a car and drive to another
state and watch a baseball game.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You were like, that sounds like fun.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Shannon Great, I said, you just do not make eye
contact and then.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You just let me continue my dinner. And I had
forgotten about it by the next day. Yeah, right, no harm,
no foul. That's what you have to do with someone
like this.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Yeah not. I said close it, but I meant open it.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Like it just was this.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
It's just seems so like scattered and all over the place,
and it's so much like I have so many Trump
stories today, you guys. I'm just telling Michael Monks, I
cannot have like old Trump news.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It's just too much.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
And I feel like it's a little bit of a
distraction from maybe a larger story that's happening with the
Constitution stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
But you know you're gonna go to Trump for for
him to take the Constitution seriously, I thought that.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Was ridiculous, ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Everyone would be like, oh my god, did you hear
what he said about the Constitution. It's like, who cares
what he says about the Constitution? He sat down and
like is a constitutional thinker? I mean, come on, like this,
this guy's running the country and his administration like a
game show.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
This is what he does.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
He's a businessman, deal maker, game show guy, and.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
That's what you can expect.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Do not look to him for a beacon of light
about the Constitution. When someone says, oh, do you hear
what the President said about upholding the Constitution? Who the
hell gives a crap If a constitutional lawyer says something like,
we should think seriously about getting rid of this document,
let's better listen, let's tear up just x out that
fifth mind. I don't go to Trump to hear about
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the Constitution. More on that party that's gonna be your
promo tomorrow comes up in Swamp Watch. We get into
the we get into that interview he did with Krista
Walker from NBC. But the big deal about Alcatraz, we'll
talk about what the actual prison system suggests, what the
Bureau of Prisons has said about reopening a federal prison
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in the middle of San Francisco Bay.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
I think he did it because I was just there,
you guys. He was like, Heather was there, So he's
watching to reopen it. So what you're saying, yeah, all.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Right, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty before.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
We just put a bow on the Alcatraz announcement. At
this stage, the President did say he was going to
make a major sports announcement today.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Yeah, I know what it is, so do I.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
He has announced that the NFL Draft will be in Washington,
DC in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Will be the host city.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I was expecting something a little bit more esoteric, like
what I don't know, like will be America.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Will become outlaw rugby or something.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
No more like America will become the official country of cricket,
something like stealing something from somewhere else and making it
hours Like, Ah.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
They've got enough cricket over there, show him how to
do it right. Anyway, back to Alcatraz.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Another post on truth Social from over the weekend was
rebuild and open Alcatraz all caps. For too long, America
has been plagued by vicious, violent, repeat criminal offenders. The
dregs of society will never contribute anything other than misery
and suffering. I'm directing the Bureau of Prisons, together with
the Department of Justice, FBI, and Homeland Security, to reopen
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a substantially enlarged and rebuilt Alcatraz to house America's most
ruthless and violent offenders.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I think it would be a fun job to craft
responses to this stuff, to say the right things and
be very vague and say nothing. And that is exactly
what the new director of the Bureau of Prisons did
this morning.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
His name's William Marshall.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I don't know who crafted his statement, if it was
he himself, but here is his statement. His response. He
is the new director of the Bureau row of Prisons.
He said the agency will vigorously pursue all avenues to
support and implement Trump's agenda, including an assessment to determine
the needs and the next steps to reopen Alcatraz.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Basically, we're going to wait till the next shiny thing.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yes, exactly, like this is going to be a long
fact finding mission of how Alcatraz would have to be.
It's a tear down. Oh yeah, it's a tear down
for the first just to begin with. Just starting there's
no sort to the basics.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
There's no source of fresh water on Alcatraz, and there's
no pipeline that you're going to go from the city
under the bay into onto Alcatraz. So you have to
ship in everything. It's it's uh, it's I don't.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Even know all. It's small.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
You can't really build a whole lot more on it.
I understand the symbolism of it, right, this is one
of the This is one of the nation's most recognizable
just by looking at it. Right, I don't know what
Sing Sing looks like. I don't know what Riker's Island
looks like. And maybe it's just the California part of me.
I know what Twin Towers looks like, and I know
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what Alcatraz looks But.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
When you mentioned those three in connection Alcatraz, Sing Sing
and Rikers, do you know that that was a time
when law and order mattered and that prison was a
terrifying place and you didn't want to go so you
didn't kill people and commit the crimes. Well, today we
are a softer, gentler prison system. Absolutely, So I get
the hearkening back to the days where it would scare
the life out of you to do something wrong and
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end up there. And now we're passing around free clean
needles and hugs, and it's ridiculous what you get away with.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
But I'm curious why the desire for the symbolism.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I mean, he wants it as a symbol.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
He wants law and order has become kittens and hugs.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
But in the last one hundred and five days or
however long he's been president, that attitude I think has changed.
I mean, if all you do was look at immigration
reference and he kind of made it sound like he's
talking about putting some migrant criminals into Alcatraz as the
symbol as proof that we're capable of and willing to
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put these people in jail for a very long time.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
And I understand that.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I understand the need and the necessity of law and
order and why we need to project that image not
just internationally but within our own borders, but this one
that I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Never a fan of screwing with people for symbolism's sake.
The shuffling or shuttling all the illegal immigrants from Texas
to Delaware, for instance. I don't like those kinds of
things because you're talking about real people you're effing with.
It's not funny, it's not cute, it's not look see,
it's a problem for your community. It's just a holary.
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You know. I'm never a fan of symbolism when it
comes to, you know, proclamations at city Hall. Either it's
like either do something or don't do it, don't put
on a parade like whatever. But this is going to
go nowhere. I think it's safe to say. If you've
been to Alcatraz, you know that there's no way that
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this is a plausible solution to symbolism even and if.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
The whole point of DOGE, if the whole point of
the Department of Government Efficiency is to cut down on
waste and fraud and abuse, et cetera, this is a
giant waist. There's one hundred and twenty federal prisons around
the country, right, you don't need this one to house it?
What two hundred four hundred maybe, and that's if they
knock it down and start over.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Just to rebuild is punitively expensive. But see, he doesn't
care about that kind of stuff. You know, money's not
a thing. It's like I want this. And therefore, all right,
coming up, Oh, did.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
You see this story out in San Diego?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
By the way, this is going to be something we're
gonna have to talk about through the course of the day.
Coastguard says that they found a boat, three dead bodies,
four people in need of medical care. And they believe
that nine people were also on that boat that are
currently unaccounted for. That just came ashore near San Diego
this morning, So a local story.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Will definitely keep an eye on that.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 1 (21:19):
We've got the President weighing in on Alcatraz, Hollywood, the
NFL draft, illegal aliens, getting one thousand bucks to leave
the country. What is left, well, obviously it's TikTok, and
he has weighed in on TikTok as well. Now President
Trump saying an extension is in the cards when it
comes to the TikTok deadline. If there's no deal by
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mid June. Byteedance, of course, was ordered to sell the
company to a US backer or shut down. President told
NBC's Meet the Press he has a sweet spot for
the app after it helped him win over young voters
in the election.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Sweet spot. Huh, It's an odd way to put it.
A soft spot, I guess either sweet spot.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Okay, the We'll.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Get into our criminal courts desk at the top of
the hour. The Karen Reid trial update that we have
out of Massachusetts.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
The CD there you go.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Wait, wasn't c CD where I went When I went
to public school and I had to learn about Jesus.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Then you didn't go to public school.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
C CD is like if you went to public if
you if you went to public D.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, when I went to Catholic school, I didn't have
to go to c CD anymore.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
That's right. We used to What does that stand for?
C CD?
Speaker 4 (22:34):
You tell me you're the one who went.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I know we had friends they would pick up from
from Catechism, Catholic's Catechism.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Then?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
That sounds very scair.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I don't know, it's I'm looking at it.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
The other criminal court story is that jury selection has
begun today for Sean Diddy Combs. Uh this they're trying
to figure out get a twelve member panel for this
case that's going to put him. I mean, it's going
to get some dirty, dirty things in there. That's going
on in New York.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I thought CCD was going to stand for something Catholic,
something fine and easy and fun, because I remember CCD
being very Catholic light. But it stands for the Confraternity
of Christian Doctrine. I never knew that that's fine. Today
it stands for criminal courts desk.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
All right, we have a good talkback question that we
will talk about a little bit later in the show,
but we want to start getting some of these talkbacks.
A lot of single people figure out how first dates
die in real time.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
And you may have recently been on this.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
You may remember from twenty years ago or the last
time you had a first date, whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
There are times when it just dies well.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
And that's why I had a good rule when I
was dating, and it was make it a drink. Don't
commit to a dinner. You're committing to an hour. What
if you find out within the first ninety seconds, like
you probably will, whether you're interested in this person. You
make it a commit to twenty minutes, not an hour. Yeah,
(24:12):
and then uh, and then always have a plan and out,
you know, if you hit the forty minute mark and
you know you're being polite or whatever, and you and
you got to.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Go when you fake the phone call from someone, yeah,
I said to be.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
My husband still holds this over my head. I would
go into the dates whether I knew it I was
gonna like it or not.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
With and out like, hey, this is great, so glad
so that we're doing this. But I got to be
somewhere at at eight.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I see what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
So I got to leave here regardless at seven thirty.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Okay, so you get there about seven, you're like, I
gotta love to meet you for a drink. Gotta get
I gotta I got this commitment. I got to go
to that way. You've got it built in out. Even
if you're having a great time.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
You don't have to rely on a girlfriend to give
you a call exactly exact right time.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
According to experts, they said the most important thing for
a date or to be is curious about the person
that they are meeting, and that oftentimes people just don't
ask questions of.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
The other person.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
They're not curious enough about you or about what you
where you came from, or what you do, or who
you actually are. They just want to show themselves off
to you. So it almost would have.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
To be a it's got to be like a right
balance too. It can't just be questions about you. They've
got to offer some things about them. It's going to
be a good at give and take.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I was going to say, it's almost a competition to
see who can ask the better questions about the other person.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Wow, you go into this as a competition. Yeah, why
that's worse than me. That's why I haven't dated in
thirty years.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Just to be clear, but the talk back question was
going to be what is the best first date question? Like,
if you had to ask a question or a series
of questions, what would be the best first date question
for you to have a good indication one way or
the other?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, this person's for me or goodbye?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
I got a thing.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I got to go at eight o'clock. I'd love to
meet you for a drink, but I got to take off.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I remember my husband asked me on our first date.
I think it was our first date. If it wasn't,
it was our second. Where do you see yourself in
five years? Something of that nature, And I said, and
I started laughing, and I said, I don't even know
what I want for lunch tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Lunch was super true. I would have failed this test.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I would never I didn't ask good I don't think
I don't ask good questions because I always I assumed
things about people, because I always had this impression questions
could be intrusive, and I didn't want anybody to.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Feel like I was, you know, none of your business.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Yeah, I didn't want to.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
That would be the most horrific answer to a question
if I had asked something that was too much. In fact,
I my wife as an older brother, and I knew
him first before I knew her when and they're very
close in age, I mean, well within two years. And
he graduated when I graduated college, and she graduated that
same year too, but he had gone to j C first,
(27:17):
and long description, I thought they were twins. I thought
they were twins because they're that close in age, they
graduated at the same time.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
So I made a joke about her being a twin.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Assumed they were twins without having that knowledge.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
What a dumb thing to say.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
And I made a joke about, oh, it's probably as
disgusting as kissing your twin brother, and she went what what?
And I felt like a complete moron. Yeah, now, you
and Jeff, you guys are.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
So the problem with that for me isn't the twin comment.
It's just the kissing a brother.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
I was trying to be funny, all bad. I was
trying to be funny.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
It's really let us know what is the best or
even worse. What is the best question for a first date?
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on the iHeartRadio and app President Trump wants to reopen Alcatraz.
It's like something in kill me with your eyes if
you want to. It's something that your grandfather would say,
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four hundred years ago, what ever happened the way we
used to?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
What about Alcatraz? It's right there, it's perfectly good prison.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Like that is something that God rest his soul, my
grandfather may have said. If you've been to Alcatraz, you
know there's logistically alone, there's no.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Way in hell that thing could be a prison. Again.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Well, remember the reason they shut it down in the
first place is it was too expensive to operate, right,
that was in the.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Fifties, sixties. But it's just it is a mess.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
There's no way that could function as a prison. In
twenty twenty five, like the idea that that was a
serious thing, it was and even a throwaway comment, it wasn't.
It wasn't even like whatever happened to Alcatraz, let's reopen that.
It was like you know that you know a couple
of Manhattan's deep and you're like whatever Alcatraz. This was
like a lucid, sober, serious comment of let's reopen Alcatraz.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
And I'm directing the justice.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
To do this.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Has he ever been there?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I mean, if you've been there, you know that there's
no way that could function. It's it's actually a marvel
that it did function for so long as a prison.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Well, and it currently makes money.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I mean the upkeep on that the way it stands
right now, the upkeep is minimal because you don't have
a bunch of people there, and you can make tens
of millions of dollars a year.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Is a tourist attraction.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I prefer the fan fiction narrative that I came up
with that he's just trying to piss off California and
piss off the Bay Area, which is wildly blue, right,
Like the idea that Trump would reopen something in the
heart of the San Francisco Bay Area, to me, is
a better story just to f with the liberals up there,
rather than him logistically thinking that that's a feasible plan.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
This was him on the lawn of the White House.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
It's a symbol of law in order, and here it's
got quite a history frankly, so I.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Think we're going to do that, and we're looking.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
At it right now. Here's someone take the President on
a drive from La to Vegas and he can look
at all the land out there and say, why aren't
we opening prisons the way we all do the way
we all do? Alcatraz the non starter.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, And then if you work for the Department of
Justice and that got your attention, where you've got an
email this morning when you showed up to work that says, hey,
the President wants us to look at the possibility of
reopening Alcatraz. Have a report on my desk by end
of business today. You're like, wait, what how does that?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I go back to the Devilwar's Praduct And if you've
seen the movie you understand the reference. His staff is
constantly Miranda's staff of you want us to do what?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
How would we even go about doing that?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Like you want us to break into Starbucks to get
your coffee order before it's even open?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
How who do I even call to make that happen?
Like reopen Alcatraz is.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
The same thing, Like what how would I even make this?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
In this plan a reality?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
First of all, you gotta go through all the movies
that have been made about Alcatraz, feasible.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
In the books Dennis Lalade and The Lake.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
The other thing. By the way, big big, what do
you think he just sweeted shit back?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Relax and enjoy my tweets.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
I mean, technically it's a truth social post.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
But the president also said that the movie industry in
America is dying a very fast death. He calls on
international filmmaking incentives a concerted effort by other nations, and
therefore a national security threat. It is in addition to
everything else, messaging and propaganda. So he wants to impose
one hundred percent tariffs on films produced overseas.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Okay, you can't put tariffs on films. It's intellectual property.
You can put up trade barriers, tax film credits, things
like that, but you cannot tear iff the films themselves,
as I understand it, with intellectual.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Property roles, right, because it's not a physical good. So
there's a funny way that the Hollywood reporter writes it up,
and it's sort of like questions that are immediately that
immediately come to mind for anybody who works in the industry.
The production companies all the way down to Actors Union members,
(04:40):
key grips. Whatever is what in the world is going on?
And the way the Hollywood Reporter writes it is one
of their paragraphs at the risk of saying washing a
policy that may or may not ever come to pass.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
On and on, here's a few questions.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
That's the kind of pattern that we find ourselves in,
especially in these last couple of weeks. And it can
be everything from putting tariffs on foreign made movies to
reopening Alcatraz to the Fed Reserve chairman should be fired
for his you know, unwillingness to raise interest rate lower
interest rates.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
We have to go through in like, okay.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Figure out the is this physically possible for him to
do what he's saying he wants to do?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
And then second is it legal? Is there is there
a mechanism by which he can do this?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Or are we just throwing things into the air seeing
which of the When the wheat comes down and the
chaff blows away, what we're left with.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Hollywood Studio executive scrambling last night to determine all the things.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
You just raised, What does it all mean?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Executives said they were given no prior warning about the
tariff plan, no information about how it would work. They
would would need to drill down on the details that
we talked about, the fact that this is in fact
intellectual property. The idea that you could put up those
barriers to film tax credits and things like that, what
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would those be. It's not as just easy as black
and white. But I mean, none of this tariff business
is is it? No?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Because he keeps he I mean, even if you look
at the biggest player when it comes to tariffs, he's
talking about China, and even again this weekend he said
he's going to lower He's going to lower the tariffs
on China. It's just a matter of when and to
what level there.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I would like to mention that the US movie industry
had a fifteen point three billion dollar trade surplus in
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah, one of the rare economic instances where we do
have a surplus. The amount of stuff that the United
States create when it comes to movies and TV shows
is pretty ridiculous. And we always have been that engine
for that kind of entertainment stuff. And there have not
been outside of a handful of foreign language movies that
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get nominated for Oscars or they end up in film,
film festivals and things like that. There's not a huge
portion of the entertainment industry that comes into the United
States outside of a handful of high profile shows.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Some of the summer's biggest productions, including Miss Emission Impossible,
Jurassic World Rebirth, primarily made or entirely outside of the US.
London has become a thriving hub for Hollywood productions because
of its tax incentives, infrastructure, large sound stages, things like
that English speaking crews no loss in translation there. Avenger
(07:52):
sequels are going to be filmed there, Disney decided. They
say the total amount of money spent last year on
film and TV productions in the US fell twenty six
percent from two years earlier.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Well, I'm always curious as to how what happened. Immediately
before the President takes to social media and posts this
is it.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Did he hear that Gavin Newsome is trying to keep
film and TV production in California? Yes, I think that's
it exactly. I think so too. I think he's like, oh, well,
f him. Look what I'm going to do. I'm going
to say that it's all in.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
America, because I am the King of America.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Well, when we come back, we have an idea of
what might have prompted this specific truth Social post from
yesterday about one hundred percent tariffs on Ford made films.
That and some of these other questions they still need
to be answered about what it would look like.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
My son had sex with Kimberly Gilfoyle too well, you know,
you know he thinks about that.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI forty.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
If Biden was making these proposals, would you consider them
to be sane and well bought out proposal?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Now? Would you think that he was going over the edge?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Listen?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I didn't think Biden was sane for the past two
and a half years, and was it vocal about it.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
That's the listen.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Take each of these actions in a vacuum and stop
relying on your feelings about one person or the other
and about what makes Just look at this proposal.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
It's half made. It's a half made proposal. It's not
a policy.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
When he tweets something or puts it on truth Social,
he's talking about whatever idea he has in his mind.
It still has to go through this process of the
Department of whatever. In this case, the Department of Commerce
has to come in and say, Okay, how do we tax?
How do we put a tariff on something that is
a movie?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
It's not a physical good.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
He must be exhausting to defend every flippant thought in
this man's head with the weight of all of your seriousness, right,
I mean god, I would be exhausted.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Just relax and have a laugh at it. He wants
to reopen Alcatraz.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You don't have to defend this like it's the effing constitution.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Just realize it's freaking nuts.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
You like the guy, it's nuts, Take it with a
great assault and move on.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
It's a symbol. This is a feeling in symbols. At
this point, now we were talking, I'm so glad.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I don't have a crazy person that I have to
defend with all of my seriousness at every turn.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
That sounds awful.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
So the tariffs that he wants to impose on foreign
movies apparently was the result of contact that he made
with John Voight. John Voight, Sylvester Stallone Mel Gibson were
three guys that President Trump had apparently asked to be
his ambassadors to Hollywood, and as far as we know,
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the only one who's actually been taking meetings and talking
about this is John Voight. According to several sources, The
Hollywood Reporter says that he and John Voyd and his manager,
a guy named Stephen Paul, have been talking with studio heads,
the heads of some of the unions in Hollywood about
this proposal about how to boost domestic production of movies
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and films. And so far, so far, the president apparently
has interpreted this advice now to be sort of the
punitive way he does it, which is we're going to
impose one hundred percent tariffs on foreign films. Again, none
of the details have been worked out about how it's
going to work. And this isn't the Hollywood of the thirties,
forties and fifties, where you had a handful of studios
(11:41):
that dominated the world when it came to entertainment. Now
you've got streaming services that are just as if not
more powerful than some of those old stand by studios
that we've had.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
So what do we do with those?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
You know, to my point about having a crazy friend
that you defend, we all have that friend, right comes
up with the ideas like we should go to Africa
next week, Let's do it. Let's look at flights road
trip and they're super serious, right, and they're super serious. Listen,
I've been this person. I've been this person numerous countless times.
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But also with these people myself included, is you kind
of go, You're like, okay, yeah, totally, let's do it.
Let's go, and then you just let them kind of
forget about the idea.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
You just kind of like, you can't take it seriously.
You can't.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Speaking as somebody who behaves like this, who is an
impulsive person like the president.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
You can't take it seriously.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Just let us have our crazy ideas and putting the
full force of our personality behind it, and then.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Just let it.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Just don't sit, don't know, hold meetings about how to
make this happen, just let them react to things.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
And then just let them live there.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
They'll forget, they'll forget the exactly.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Somebody said that they thought I think I saw on TikTok.
Somebody said, is he just like watching old movies or
something and goes alcatraz.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, let's close that. I mean, that's I get it.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Like my mind works the same way. It's like, well,
we were in whatever city we were in, and I
was like, let's rent a car and drive to another
state and watch a baseball game.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You were like, that sounds like fun.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Shannon Great, I said, you just do not make eye
contact and then.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You just let me continue my dinner. And I had
forgotten about it by the next day. Yeah, right, no harm,
no foul. That's what you have to do with someone
like this.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Yeah not. I said close it, but I meant open it.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Like it just was this.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
It's just seems so like scattered and all over the place,
and it's so much like I have so many Trump
stories today, you guys. I'm just telling Michael Monks, I
cannot have like old Trump news.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It's just too much.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
And I feel like it's a little bit of a
distraction from maybe a larger story that's happening with the
Constitution stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
But you know you're gonna go to Trump for for
him to take the Constitution seriously, I thought that.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Was ridiculous, ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Everyone would be like, oh my god, did you hear
what he said about the Constitution. It's like, who cares
what he says about the Constitution? He sat down and
like is a constitutional thinker? I mean, come on, like this,
this guy's running the country and his administration like a
game show.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
This is what he does.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
He's a businessman, deal maker, game show guy, and.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
That's what you can expect.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Do not look to him for a beacon of light
about the Constitution. When someone says, oh, do you hear
what the President said about upholding the Constitution? Who the
hell gives a crap If a constitutional lawyer says something like,
we should think seriously about getting rid of this document,
let's better listen, let's tear up just x out that
fifth mind. I don't go to Trump to hear about
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the Constitution. More on that party that's gonna be your
promo tomorrow comes up in Swamp Watch. We get into
the we get into that interview he did with Krista
Walker from NBC. But the big deal about Alcatraz, we'll
talk about what the actual prison system suggests, what the
Bureau of Prisons has said about reopening a federal prison
(15:03):
in the middle of San Francisco Bay.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
I think he did it because I was just there,
you guys. He was like, Heather was there, So he's
watching to reopen it. So what you're saying, yeah, all.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Right, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty before.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
We just put a bow on the Alcatraz announcement. At
this stage, the President did say he was going to
make a major sports announcement today.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Yeah, I know what it is, so do I.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
He has announced that the NFL Draft will be in Washington,
DC in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Will be the host city.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I was expecting something a little bit more esoteric, like
what I don't know, like will be America.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Will become outlaw rugby or something.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
No more like America will become the official country of cricket,
something like stealing something from somewhere else and making it
hours Like, Ah.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
They've got enough cricket over there, show him how to
do it right. Anyway, back to Alcatraz.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Another post on truth Social from over the weekend was
rebuild and open Alcatraz all caps. For too long, America
has been plagued by vicious, violent, repeat criminal offenders. The
dregs of society will never contribute anything other than misery
and suffering. I'm directing the Bureau of Prisons, together with
the Department of Justice, FBI, and Homeland Security, to reopen
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a substantially enlarged and rebuilt Alcatraz to house America's most
ruthless and violent offenders.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I think it would be a fun job to craft
responses to this stuff, to say the right things and
be very vague and say nothing. And that is exactly
what the new director of the Bureau of Prisons did
this morning.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
His name's William Marshall.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I don't know who crafted his statement, if it was
he himself, but here is his statement. His response. He
is the new director of the Bureau row of Prisons.
He said the agency will vigorously pursue all avenues to
support and implement Trump's agenda, including an assessment to determine
the needs and the next steps to reopen Alcatraz.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Basically, we're going to wait till the next shiny thing.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yes, exactly, like this is going to be a long
fact finding mission of how Alcatraz would have to be.
It's a tear down. Oh yeah, it's a tear down
for the first just to begin with. Just starting there's
no sort to the basics.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
There's no source of fresh water on Alcatraz, and there's
no pipeline that you're going to go from the city
under the bay into onto Alcatraz. So you have to
ship in everything. It's it's uh, it's I don't.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Even know all. It's small.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
You can't really build a whole lot more on it.
I understand the symbolism of it, right, this is one
of the This is one of the nation's most recognizable
just by looking at it. Right, I don't know what
Sing Sing looks like. I don't know what Riker's Island
looks like. And maybe it's just the California part of me.
I know what Twin Towers looks like, and I know
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what Alcatraz looks But.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
When you mentioned those three in connection Alcatraz, Sing Sing
and Rikers, do you know that that was a time
when law and order mattered and that prison was a
terrifying place and you didn't want to go so you
didn't kill people and commit the crimes. Well, today we
are a softer, gentler prison system. Absolutely, So I get
the hearkening back to the days where it would scare
the life out of you to do something wrong and
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end up there. And now we're passing around free clean
needles and hugs, and it's ridiculous what you get away with.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
But I'm curious why the desire for the symbolism.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I mean, he wants it as a symbol.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
He wants law and order has become kittens and hugs.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
But in the last one hundred and five days or
however long he's been president, that attitude I think has changed.
I mean, if all you do was look at immigration
reference and he kind of made it sound like he's
talking about putting some migrant criminals into Alcatraz as the
symbol as proof that we're capable of and willing to
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put these people in jail for a very long time.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
And I understand that.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I understand the need and the necessity of law and
order and why we need to project that image not
just internationally but within our own borders, but this one
that I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Never a fan of screwing with people for symbolism's sake.
The shuffling or shuttling all the illegal immigrants from Texas
to Delaware, for instance. I don't like those kinds of
things because you're talking about real people you're effing with.
It's not funny, it's not cute, it's not look see,
it's a problem for your community. It's just a holary.
(19:49):
You know. I'm never a fan of symbolism when it
comes to, you know, proclamations at city Hall. Either it's
like either do something or don't do it, don't put
on a parade like whatever. But this is going to
go nowhere. I think it's safe to say. If you've
been to Alcatraz, you know that there's no way that
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this is a plausible solution to symbolism even and if.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
The whole point of DOGE, if the whole point of
the Department of Government Efficiency is to cut down on
waste and fraud and abuse, et cetera, this is a
giant waist. There's one hundred and twenty federal prisons around
the country, right, you don't need this one to house it?
What two hundred four hundred maybe, and that's if they
knock it down and start over.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Just to rebuild is punitively expensive. But see, he doesn't
care about that kind of stuff. You know, money's not
a thing. It's like I want this. And therefore, all right,
coming up, Oh, did.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
You see this story out in San Diego?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
By the way, this is going to be something we're
gonna have to talk about through the course of the day.
Coastguard says that they found a boat, three dead bodies,
four people in need of medical care. And they believe
that nine people were also on that boat that are
currently unaccounted for. That just came ashore near San Diego
this morning, So a local story.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Will definitely keep an eye on that.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
We've got the President weighing in on Alcatraz, Hollywood, the
NFL draft, illegal aliens, getting one thousand bucks to leave
the country. What is left, well, obviously it's TikTok, and
he has weighed in on TikTok as well. Now President
Trump saying an extension is in the cards when it
comes to the TikTok deadline. If there's no deal by
(21:41):
mid June. Byteedance, of course, was ordered to sell the
company to a US backer or shut down. President told
NBC's Meet the Press he has a sweet spot for
the app after it helped him win over young voters
in the election.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Sweet spot. Huh, It's an odd way to put it.
A soft spot, I guess either sweet spot.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Okay, the We'll.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Get into our criminal courts desk at the top of
the hour. The Karen Reid trial update that we have
out of Massachusetts.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
The CD there you go.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Wait, wasn't c CD where I went When I went
to public school and I had to learn about Jesus.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Then you didn't go to public school.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
C CD is like if you went to public if
you if you went to public D.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, when I went to Catholic school, I didn't have
to go to c CD anymore.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
That's right. We used to What does that stand for?
C CD?
Speaker 4 (22:34):
You tell me you're the one who went.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I know we had friends they would pick up from
from Catechism, Catholic's Catechism.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Then?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
That sounds very scair.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I don't know, it's I'm looking at it.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
The other criminal court story is that jury selection has
begun today for Sean Diddy Combs. Uh this they're trying
to figure out get a twelve member panel for this
case that's going to put him. I mean, it's going
to get some dirty, dirty things in there. That's going
on in New York.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I thought CCD was going to stand for something Catholic,
something fine and easy and fun, because I remember CCD
being very Catholic light. But it stands for the Confraternity
of Christian Doctrine. I never knew that that's fine. Today
it stands for criminal courts desk.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
All right, we have a good talkback question that we
will talk about a little bit later in the show,
but we want to start getting some of these talkbacks.
A lot of single people figure out how first dates
die in real time.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
And you may have recently been on this.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
You may remember from twenty years ago or the last
time you had a first date, whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
There are times when it just dies well.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
And that's why I had a good rule when I
was dating, and it was make it a drink. Don't
commit to a dinner. You're committing to an hour. What
if you find out within the first ninety seconds, like
you probably will, whether you're interested in this person. You
make it a commit to twenty minutes, not an hour. Yeah,
(24:12):
and then uh, and then always have a plan and out,
you know, if you hit the forty minute mark and
you know you're being polite or whatever, and you and
you got to.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Go when you fake the phone call from someone, yeah,
I said to be.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
My husband still holds this over my head. I would
go into the dates whether I knew it I was
gonna like it or not.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
With and out like, hey, this is great, so glad
so that we're doing this. But I got to be
somewhere at at eight.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I see what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
So I got to leave here regardless at seven thirty.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Okay, so you get there about seven, you're like, I
gotta love to meet you for a drink. Gotta get
I gotta I got this commitment. I got to go
to that way. You've got it built in out. Even
if you're having a great time.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
You don't have to rely on a girlfriend to give
you a call exactly exact right time.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
According to experts, they said the most important thing for
a date or to be is curious about the person
that they are meeting, and that oftentimes people just don't
ask questions of.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
The other person.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
They're not curious enough about you or about what you
where you came from, or what you do, or who
you actually are. They just want to show themselves off
to you. So it almost would have.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
To be a it's got to be like a right
balance too. It can't just be questions about you. They've
got to offer some things about them. It's going to
be a good at give and take.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I was going to say, it's almost a competition to
see who can ask the better questions about the other person.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Wow, you go into this as a competition. Yeah, why
that's worse than me. That's why I haven't dated in
thirty years.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Just to be clear, but the talk back question was
going to be what is the best first date question? Like,
if you had to ask a question or a series
of questions, what would be the best first date question
for you to have a good indication one way or
the other?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, this person's for me or goodbye?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
I got a thing.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I got to go at eight o'clock. I'd love to
meet you for a drink, but I got to take off.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I remember my husband asked me on our first date.
I think it was our first date. If it wasn't,
it was our second. Where do you see yourself in
five years? Something of that nature, And I said, and
I started laughing, and I said, I don't even know
what I want for lunch tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Lunch was super true. I would have failed this test.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I would never I didn't ask good I don't think
I don't ask good questions because I always I assumed
things about people, because I always had this impression questions
could be intrusive, and I didn't want anybody to.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Feel like I was, you know, none of your business.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Yeah, I didn't want to.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
That would be the most horrific answer to a question
if I had asked something that was too much. In fact,
I my wife as an older brother, and I knew
him first before I knew her when and they're very
close in age, I mean, well within two years. And
he graduated when I graduated college, and she graduated that
same year too, but he had gone to j C first,
(27:17):
and long description, I thought they were twins. I thought
they were twins because they're that close in age, they
graduated at the same time.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
So I made a joke about her being a twin.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Assumed they were twins without having that knowledge.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
What a dumb thing to say.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
And I made a joke about, oh, it's probably as
disgusting as kissing your twin brother, and she went what what?
And I felt like a complete moron. Yeah, now, you
and Jeff, you guys are.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
So the problem with that for me isn't the twin comment.
It's just the kissing a brother.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
I was trying to be funny, all bad. I was
trying to be funny.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
It's really let us know what is the best or
even worse. What is the best question for a first date?
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