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July 23, 2025 26 mins
Doctor who supplied ketamine to Matthew Perry pleads guilty. David Geffen is accused of abusing an ex in a lawsuit alleging paid sex and superyacht drug parties.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Have you seen Untamed?

Speaker 1 (00:09):
It piqued my interests because I live with somebody who's
very much into Usemite, goes several times a year, and
I thought, huh wow. I feel like he would have
known if there was something being filmed in Yusemite, like
it's a small park, if there was some sort of
great film production, you know about it if you visit

(00:30):
it as much as he does. And I'm thinking, my gosh,
how beautiful. I can't wait to watch this show. If
it's based in Usemite, it's not so peaceful. And then
like you're looking at the teaser and you're like, oh,
alecks a little?

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Is that cgi?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
What's going on there?

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Is that half dome?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Anyway?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Netflix is Untamed as a show we're talking about, and yes,
the locations are as. This headline puts it mysterious.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
On uncharacteristically angry. That's how I felt. Well I was
watching that show.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
It was an outside reaction that you had good work,
better word better to something that has no impact on
your life, none at all.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
What do you think that's all about. I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well, we'll dive into that coming up at the bottom
of the hour.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
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Speaker 1 (01:38):
A federal judge in Florida has denied the Justice Department's
request to unseal the grand jury transcripts from the investigation
of Jeffrey Epstein. In that stage, the Justice Department, as
you know, under pressure, did petition the court last week
to release those closely held records of testimony of witnesses

(01:59):
who appeared before the grand jury, But in a twelve
page opinion released today, the judge, Robin Rosenberg said she
could not legally do so because there are guidelines that
govern grand's jury secrecy. Speaking of court action, go ahead,
I was just going to say, the Justice Department knew

(02:20):
this when they filed this request.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
But they have to look as if they're doing something exactly.
Speaking of courtrooms today, Brian Cooberger was facing trial next
month for the quadruple murders at the University of Idaho
from a few years ago. Changed his plea to guilty.
He has been sentenced to life without parole, ten years
in prison for the one count of burglary, and four

(02:44):
life sentences to be served consecutively, not concurrently consecutively, for
each of the first jury murder accounts in the deaths
of these four Kayle Gonzolvez, Madison Mogan, Xanaker Noodle, and
Ethan Cha.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Quick note about that, Caroline Levin, speaking in the White
House briefing room, weighed in on this, which is very.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Rare what she said.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
She said, if it was up to the President, he
would have forced this monster to publicly explain why he
chose to steal these innocent souls. That the President would
have forced Brian Coberger to speak in court today.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
The doctor who supplied ketamine to Matthew Perry has pleaded guilty.
Doctor Salvador Placentia is the fourth of five people charged
in connection with Perry's death to plead guilty. Stood next
to his lawyer today to federal court in La Forty
three year old Placentia was to have gone on trial
next month. Also until the doctor agreed he was going

(03:44):
to plead guilty to four counts of distribution of ketamine.
According to this document that was filed, the only thing
he said was was response was in response to the
questions from the judge.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
A couple of airline disaster related stories. This is a
very Alaska plane crash story. A small plane that crashed
in twenty twenty three while carrying moose meat for hunters
in remote Alaska and killed the husband a former US representative,

(04:18):
Mary Poltola. Peltola was overweight for takeoff with all that
moose meat and then encountered drag from a set of
antlers mounted outside.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
What okay. So there's a small plane and it has
antlers mounted on it like a Texas longhorn on a
giant nineteen eighties Catillac, and.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
It's loaded with moose meat and the husband of an
ex congress person, What okay, Alaska.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
There's a set of moose antlers on the right wing strut.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
I'd love to put moose antlers on your car.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Could we do that? I don't. I think it would
make a nice touch on the hood. Yeah, it'd become
a visual thing. I'd put it right on the top.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Oh, like a reindeer moose.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yes, And then the families of some of the people
that were killed in that Air India plane crash, the
one where it just did not achieve liftoff. They said
they've been sent their remains back, but they're they're the
wrong remains.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
How would you know? How would you know?

Speaker 1 (05:31):
There remains of at least twelve British victims of the
crash had been taken back to the UK, but two
of them were misidentified. I guess DNA if you've tested
the remains, I'm not sure. Young people, drugs, sex, yachts.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
It's all pass.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
It's all off limits, all off limits.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
David Geffen. You know David Geffen. He has been around forever.
He is worth about eight point eight billion. Made his
money as a music and movie producer. He signed the Eagles,
Joni Mitchell, co founded DreamWorks Pictures, produced massive hits, Saving

(06:20):
Private Ryan, Shrek, to name a couple well. David Geffen
has now been sued by his estranged husband named Donovan Michaels,
who says that the billionaire film producer preyed on his
vulnerabilities as a young gay black man from the foster system,
and that David Geffen trapped him in a manipulative and

(06:40):
abusive relationship. Now it should be known that the two
met on Seeking Arrangements dot Com.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
David Geffen uses a dating site.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Well, if you know Seeking Arrangements dot Com or if
you've heard of it, it has been in the news before.
It's a dating site where rich It's like a sugar Daddy's.
Rich people seek relationships with younger people in return for
some sort of compensation.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Sugar Daddy's right. I just said that.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Oh I did say that, right.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
I don't know if you said it out loud. I
think I said it out loud. I usually hear the
inner thoughts. Oh, there's one.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
David Geffen.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
If we're keeping scores, eighty two and his husband is
thirty two. Ahh, just a cute fifty year age difference.
They met in twenty sixteen on Seeking Arrangements dot Com.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
And on the night that they met, David Geffen reportedly
paid Donovan ten thousand dollars to have sex with him.
That's a lot.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
That's a lot, But I mean, would you have sex
for ten thousand.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Dollars with David Geffen.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Well, okay, I mean, if you're a young person and
you're on Seeking Arrangements dot com, this is the kind
of thing you're signing up for.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
You know that that's an option. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
So they continued their relationship and they married. They married
seven years later and there was no prenup. What in
May of this year Geffen filed for divorce. Now the
husband is suing Geffen for breach of contract. The husband,
by the way, who went by the name Donovan Michaels.

(08:23):
His real name is David Armstrong. Why you would change
your name from David Armstrong to Donovan Michaels is odd,
But anyway, he's suing for breach of contract, saying that
David Geffen promised to take care of him financially but
left him near broken homeless. They can play the lawsuit

(08:44):
compares their relationship to the plot of the movie Trading Places.
That's topical, and that's the younger guy's lawsuit. He must
have a nice old lawyer who's going to use a
verbiage that David Geffen would understand.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
So the younger guy says that he entered the foster
care system while he was living in Michigan at eighteen
months old, and he grew up in a bunch of
different foster homes and group homes where he was regularly
abused emotionally physically. Moved tonight, moved to Florida at the
age of nineteen. He relied on his body basically to
get by financially. He was an exotic dancerrated videos listen

(09:21):
Everybody's Had a Moment. The lawsuit claims that David Geffen
then expected Donovan Michaels to use drugs like cocaine and
molly alongside all the rich friends on the yacht and
Geff there he.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Forced me to go on that yacht and do cocaine.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
The complaint also says that Geffen enjoyed physically dominating his partners,
his sexual partners, and causing them pain. He's eighty two.
That type of behavior triggered the abuse memories in the
younger husband, caused him digestive issues and headaches and the
need to isolate, and that he was very controlling of

(10:01):
Donovan's appearance. That he would tell him where to go,
what to what to read, what to watch, what to say,
and would require him to submit to extensive, painful cosmetic treatments.
He went into addiction treatment earlier this year and says
that's when he began reevaluating his life. Approached his husband
and said to David Geffen he wanted a new beginning

(10:23):
wherein he could stand shoulder to shoulder with Geffen as
an equal, free from as an equal, free from power
dynamics that existed, but that, he says, is when David
Geffen cut him off, and while David Geffen was attending
the Bezos Sanchez wedding in Italy, ordered Donovan Michaels out
of their apartment in New York.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Do we all need a shower? I feel like we
all need a shower?

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Geffen's attorney, I should point out, says there was no
contract express, written, oral, or implied that has ever existed.
We will be vigorously and righteously defending against this false,
pathetic lawsuit.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Do you see the sure that's printed here in the
La Times of David Geffen and his husband, Donovan Michaels
aka David Armstrong.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Do you recognize.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
The black mesh shirt that the younger gentleman is wearing.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
No, I know what you're getting at. Mine was a
crop top.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Your honor, I rest my case.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
We will do.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Do you have any watch I was thinking about this
on my drive in today. Do you have any adult
theater that you've been hiding?

Speaker 5 (11:34):
No?

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Okay, because the last time you were involved in something,
you hid it from us.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
I will hide it from you as well until I
am ready to express myself in a theatrical way. Okay,
are you hiding anything from us? And I want you
to consent? I want you to Are you hiding anything
from us?

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (11:55):
There may be a span Lake situation. Okay, at some
point in twenty forty two, a lot of ahsal Gary
and Shannon will continue. What you watch you Wednesday is
coming up next.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
There's an AI action plan coming out of the White House.
The President has unveiled this plan. The plan shown today
focuses on boosting artificial intelligence technology exports, streamlining permits for
energy intensive data centers, and exporting American AI around the world.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
This was part of Trump's promise to Silicon Valley when
he was running That is now materializing. I meant to
set it aside for us to spend more time on
to dive into exactly what it all means.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
But we can, obviously, we got to know.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Our whole thing tomorrow because there's also that Ai bracelet
that Amazon wants to give you that will listen to
every single word you.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Our phones already doing that in a way.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, Matt's beat the Angels again yesterday, three to two,
first pitch, just after ten in New York. They're already
in the eighth inning, I believe. Right there in New York,
Twins beat the Dodgers last night ten to seven. They
are gearing up. They will play again this afternoon at
one o'clock.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
All right, it's time for what you watch on Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
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Speaker 4 (13:30):
Watching too many of those live television shows.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
All right, we've got about three and a half minutes here.
Is that long enough for you to do your untamed rant?

Speaker 3 (13:40):
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Store if you'd like, all Right, Untamed on Netflix. This
is a nice little six episode limited series mystery.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
I saw that it is about Yosemite. Yosemite plays a
major role. It's essentially a character. It's certainly supposed to
be the backdrop of this. It all takes place in Yosemite,
which is a very small park, and I thought, wow,
I'm shocked that we didn't hear they were filming there.
But then it also stars Eric Banna, who is a
legit star, so I thought, wow, this might be a

(14:19):
good show to check out.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Well, and the writer has great credits. The writer helps
write The Revenant with Leonardo DiCaprio and wrote American Primeval,
which has been getting great reviews this year. And Eric Banna,
Sam Neil a couple of guys who know what they're doing.
And the opening shots of Untamed again to set the

(14:41):
scene Yosemite National Park were Yosemite National Park in six episodes,
each episode about forty forty five minutes long. Out of
those six episodes, I would estimate three to four minutes
of the entire six episode thing were actually filmed at Yosemit.
Everything else doesn't even look fake Yosemite. It's films some

(15:06):
park up in British Columbia. I can't believe it's even legal.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
I mean, what a disservice to the gem that is Yosemite.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
I made a joke about it because uh, producer Keans
from Fresno, and I had and I know we like
to make fun of Fresno, but there's an apartment complex
that plays a role. They have to go down to
an apartment complex and Fresno to witness interview with guy
and they it's this beautiful, well put together apartment complex
somewhere outside of Vancouver that they put like two pieces

(15:37):
of graffiti on and then said, oh, that looks a
lot like Fresno. That it bothered me. Now, the acting
outside of Eric Banna is mostly awful. The writing, even
though the credits for Mark Smith are great, not good,
and some of the characters just seemed unnecessary. I went

(15:59):
through the whole thing, followed it. But I have a show,
and I said this in the in the promo for
the show today, This to me is an example of
what's wrong with Hollywood and production in California. We've made
it so onerous that even an iconic place like Yosemite
is too difficult to work with and that's that's I

(16:22):
know you're dealing with National Park stuff, but you're also
dealing with California State. You're dealing with the kinds of
infrastructure that you would need there. It just doesn't exist
today the way it did even ten or fifteen years ago.
I don't know if it's feasible.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
And that's one of the reasons that made me curious
about the show to film in Yosemite.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
It right to that length, because you would think I
would love to see a show like that.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah. Now here's the thing which I think it speaks
to as much as your point, is that Netflix has
done a great job in earning our truck, hasn't it,
because we go on Netflix and we will give a

(17:07):
show like this a chance. We wouldn't give this show
a chance if it was on any anywhere.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Else the point we'd be like, what the hell is this?

Speaker 1 (17:16):
But because it's under the Netflix banner and it's suggested
to us, it's like, okay, let me check this out.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I mean, I fallen for this.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
I fall for this. I'm watching Sullivan's.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Crossing and I'm like, why am I even watching this
show if Netflix didn't serve it to me? And I
have that trust for Netflix, I would have never given
it a chance.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
And it's it's funny because I don't know about Sulivan,
what'd you call it? Sullivan's Crossing, There's that, There's this,
There's Virgin River, there's like, there's there's a whole lot
of shows that now look like they're all being filmed
in exactly the same place, because they are a lot
of them are being outsourced to Vancouver, British Columbia. It's

(17:56):
you know, in and around Vancouver, and they are becoming
all identical.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
I mean, and they're beautiful. A lot of these places
are just gorgeous. It's one of the reasons that I
watched the show. Sullivan's Crossing is supposed to be in
Nova Scotia. I don't know if it is, but my god,
it's gorgeous. Virgin River was somewhere, I believe, in Georgia.
The last one that I watch, Ransom Canyon, was in
New Mexico. And these places they make me not want

(18:26):
anything to be ever filmed on a sound stage in
Hollywood again, because part of the reason I watch them
is just the beauty of these towns.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
But isn't there some and I can't pinpoint it. There's
something about the quality of the production that pulls you
out of it. Whether it's the very generic lighting, there's
something it's just soft.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
To lighting that addicts me.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
It's the self lighting and the self focus, and the locals,
the writing, the acting, the plot lines are all atrocious
and not plausible late a second, Okay, they are not plausible,
that's true.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
But I do like some of the actors, and I
like the music. I like the open music. Texted you
that yesterday.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
I wonder how much of this is the feel good
endorphins I get listening to the stupid theme song.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yes, but as bad as Untamed and as angry as
I was watching that show, I found one last night,
a ten episode show. I barely made it for the
through the first episode. I will never watch another moment
of that show again. What is it? I'll tell you
when I come back.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six.

Speaker 6 (19:38):
Forty Gary Shannon, it's the course, Like King, I got
a good one King for you. I just finished watching
The Amateur on Hulu.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
That is a good one.

Speaker 6 (19:47):
It's a classic CIA spy Who've done it kind of flick.
You'll love it. I have a good rest of the show.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah, Remy Mallick is a weirdo, but plays this character
very well. That's a good one called The Amateur with
Laurence Fishburne as well. Why is he a weirdo? Cause
he's just a weirdo everything I've seen him in and
every interview i've seen him do. Oh really, I've never
seen an interview. It's just a weirdo. We were talking
about Untamed on Netflix, not filmed in Yosemite, although they

(20:17):
still are able to pull out some pretty stunning views
of the park in British Columbia where they film it.
So we finished it last night and it was only
about eight forty five. But you finished the Untamed, watched
the whole thing. You did absolutely Why again, there's enough
of a story that it's an interesting If it was
a book, it would be an awesome book. But I

(20:40):
wanted to see how they wrap it up, Like I
had some inclinations in the first episode. I think it
was of how they were going to wrap this thing up,
and I was pretty much dead on how long are
these episodes? Forty five minutes?

Speaker 2 (20:53):
I'm surprised you want the distance on.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
That as well. But then we went and watched another
show because it had shown up in one of our
little you know you might like you might also like
this thing, and you know, Megan stalled her because she
plays Kayla Mikayla or Kayla in Hacks, the agent's assistant,
the young girl who is like the nepotism baby. Yeah, yeah, oh,

(21:20):
me installed her. It's a show called too Much. We watched, Yeah,
we watched a few minutes.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
And then at the end of it, I mean, it's awful,
it's really stilted, it's poor writing. It's just there's no redeed. Granted,
it's not.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
For me, not for you, say it's not for.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
You, but but we we watch it, and as soon
as the credits roll written, my wife says, we are
never watching another one of those again, And I said,
thank god.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
What didn't she like about it?

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Immediately? It was directed by the girls people, Lena Dunham. Yeah,
it was written by Lena Dunner. It was executive produce
and co stars.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Which is why I'm surprised you even I become a
day because I tried.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
It because I was curious. Megan Stalter was the reason
I wanted too much. The reason I wanted to watch
it is because I think Meganstalter is going to be good.
I think she is going to be good and she's
gonna be a fun actress to watch.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
This is not her vehicle. Did you two.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Ever watch Nobody Wants This with Kristen Bell?

Speaker 3 (22:28):
And I think my wife did. I never saw it.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
You'd like it too. My husband likes it.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
We're watching it right now because he never saw it,
and they have a second season coming out in October.
But it's really well done, and the writing's cute, it's quick,
it's it's nice.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
I will say, there's like Red Wilson for Rita. Wilson
is in this in too much. Ria Pearlman from Back
of the Day, She's in it. Uh so, But.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
I've been meaning to give that a second chance, but
it felt like it was too much. I was not
definitely not in the mood for it when I sat
down to watch it.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Did you finish the Bear? Finally? On now the Bear?
This season? I guess this is four. I am like
I have the Bear fatigue. It's not in my opinion,
it's not their best season, but it does it kind
of over them all it reiterates a couple of things,
and one of them is that Jamie Lee Curtis is.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
A yeah, I'll watch it just for that.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
What episode does she show up in? I watched later.
I'm not sure which one it is.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
My brother told me to stick with it, and I
want to.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
I just feel like they're so full of themselves and
I'm just.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Like it doesn't end in a very satisfactory way. I
will say that, all right. I watched the latest Mike
Birbiglia special. Mike Birbiglia is I guess you say he's
a stand up comedian, but he's more of a one
man show kind of guy. Uh. And this this on
Netflix is called The Good Life, and it's a lot

(23:57):
about his own life and you know, dealing with health
issues and parents that are old and dying and stuff
like that. It doesn't sound funny, but it is a
very very well put together show.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
I spent time watching something good, unlike you who went
through the whole season of Untamed Lucky. I watched the
first part of the Billy Joel documentary on HBO Max,
which is now just Max again, and it's really good.
It's not going to blow your mind. There are things
that I did not know. I grew up listening to
Billy Joel. It's one of those nostalgic watches for me,

(24:32):
and learn more about Billy Joel, and it is nostalgic,
and you do get to go through the decades and
hear about the inside world of the rock star life
and the things that inspired Billy Joel and some of
your favorite songs and the stories behind them. And it
was two and a half hours when I and I
saw Oh. Part one. Part two comes out on Friday,

(24:53):
but I'm thinking two and a half hours.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
It brazed by.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
I mean, it was really good, So I'd say definitely
worth your time on something.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
There is a special place in my head for music
documentaries like that.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, and for people, well, it's not just about the music,
it's about the time. It's about what you were going
on in your life, of your parents, like all of
the things. Happy Gilmour two Friday, It's Friday Day. That'll
be fun. Biggest Loser documentary. This will be coming out
in August on Netflix. I loved The Biggest Loser. I

(25:26):
was a late adopter to it, but I loved it
and I found it to be totally inspirational, and maybe
it's because I like people yelling at me. That's an
inspiration for me. The yelling and the gym, I could
respond to that. Of course, it goes along with all
the other things that The Biggest Loser brought, like the

(25:48):
fact that it was wildly unhealthy for people to drop
that much weight in that short of time and what
happened to their bodies because of it, and all the
controversies that come along with it.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
But to that, for sure, there is another one coming
out on Netflix. I don't know the timing of it specifically,
but it is a just smolette attack documentary.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Will not spend two seconds even thinking about what you
just said.

Speaker 5 (26:15):
Now.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Of course the producers are going to say it this way,
but they claim they have new evidence that suggests that
the hoax attack may have actually happened.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I'm sorry, were you? Are you speaking more on this?

Speaker 1 (26:29):
She goes hard at forty five John Cobalt Show coming
up next. We will see you, Mignana. Stay dry, everybody, blessings.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
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