October 24, 2025 • 26 mins
Gary dives into two very different kinds of rigged games: California politics and NBA poker 💸. From Prop 50’s partisan redraw to the “hacked” shufflers behind the league’s gambling scandal, he connects the dots between power, money, and manipulation. (Also: your fitness app might be gaslighting you.) 🏃♂️📱
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Since it is Friday, we're gonna end the show later
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what you learned this week on the Gary and Shannon Show.
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
Hey Gary, this is John from Narco.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
John.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
So, what did Shannon do this week to get a
one day suspension? I mean that seems kind of petty
for iHeartRadio available everywhere on the iHeart app. To suspend
her for one day, It's like, dude, if you're gonna
suspend her, suspend her for.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Three days or four days or five days.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
One day just seems petty. So she peeved off the
wrong person. Love Show, Buddy Bay.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Thank you. I don't know. I don't know what it
was that she said.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
It could have something to do with the underwear talk
from yesterday, but I'm listen. I don't know specifically, and
I'm not saying that she was suspended. So President Trump
is complaining again about Canada because the TV ads that
protest US tariffs. He said it was egregious behavior aimed
at influencing court decisions. So he posted today on a
(01:20):
social media side that Canada cheated and got caught on
the tariff ads. So as of right now, he said
he's going to end all trade negotiations with Canada. We'll
talk about those coming up in swamp Watch, because he's right.
They were heavily edited from a Reagan speech back in
nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I don't know if Reagan would have liked the way
President Trump has approached tariffs in free trade, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
So we'll talk about that a little bit later.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
The fires that broke out in January have been a
tale of two cities kind of when it comes to
the rebuild, the reaction to and the devastation in the
Pacific Palisades versus the area around Altadena. And as of
right now, the La Times is running with a story
(02:12):
that suggests that Senators have been investigating the Palisades fire
much more aggressively than they have the Eton fire.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
And point to a couple of different things.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Senators Rick Scott out of Florida Ron Johnson out of
Wisconsin have stepped into this, both of them Republicans, have
stepped into this and have written a letter asking City
Council President Marquis Harris Dawson to give over all of
the information they can, all of the documents that pertain
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to LAFD staffing, preparations for wildfire, the water supply issues
that we know existed before the fire, and any other
topics that would surround the Palisades Fire, the preparation, and
whether or not the city was ready for it. In contrast,
the letter only briefly mentions the Eton Fire, which broke
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out that same day. Later that same night, you remember
it started, but we know how that started up until
just a couple of weeks ago, when that guy was
arrested in Florida for starting the January first fire that
we believe kind of smoldered underground and then was blown
up into the firestorm on January seventh, we hadn't really
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had a great conclusion about what started the Palisades fire.
We all have a pretty solid conclusion. It appears that,
in fact, it was some what should have been unpowered
so cal edison lines that sparked because of the winds
that were blowing through. On January seventh, the senators, both
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of them Scott and Johnson both sit on the Committee
on Homeland Security and Government Affairs, that opened up the investigation.
After that, they met with Spencer Pratt. Now, if you
have not followed Spencer Pratt, Yes from the Hills. Yes,
the reality TV star Spencer Pratt has been a guy
(04:12):
who has been incredibly active on social media, going after
not just politicians governor Newsom, mayor Bass, et cetera, but
the way the government in general has handled the rebuilding
process and the investigation into the fire. They met with
Spencer Pratt and at the time they said that the
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Palisades fire was an unacceptable failure or a government to
protect the lives and the property of its citizens as
of right now. This is supposed to be a look
at cities emergency preparations, the lack of water as I mentioned,
and fire hydrants. Also records relating to the reservoir when
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it comes to wildfire prep, suppression, response, voting, but not
limited to the response to the Palisades fire and to
the Lockman fire, referring to the one that was started
back on January first. But again, at this point, this
is city senators asking the city of La specifically for
information that pertains to the Palisades fire, but not the Eton.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Fire.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Officials in La County said that they have not gotten
a letter asking for information on either one of those fires.
Of course, they neither La County Supervisor Barger, who is
currently the board chair, or Supervisor Lindsay Horvath, said they
have gotten any of those letters. She Barger represents Altadina
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Horvath represents the Palisades for the county and Malibu and
some of the unincorporated.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Areas in there that are affected by that fire.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
So as of right now, the Senate appears to be
just paying attention to policy. Is it a matter of money? Probably,
I mean that's the way politics works. There's a lot
of people and Palisades who have a whole lot more
political power than some of the people in Altadena when
it comes to figuring out what started the fire. But
again it's also because we already have a pretty good
conclusion about what started the fire in Altadena, So in
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terms of being ready, yeah, there's a whole lot of
information and investigation that needs to be done in Altadena
about why the emergency alerts weren't sent out in a
timely manner, why they were only sent out to parts
of Altadena, despite the fact that most of those people
who died in Altadena were in a specific area. So
all of that coming back the poll over Prop fifty.
(06:39):
I am an anti Prop fifty guy, so this is
not good news. But we'll talk about the new polls
for Prop fifty and these odds that have come out
Vegas odds regarding the race to become the next governor
of the great State of California.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
A bunch of stuff that we're following. Of course, we'll
get into during swamp. Watch that story about President Trump
canceling all of the trade negotiations and he had planned
with Canada because Canada used Reagan's words. Not Canada, but
Ottawa used Reagan's words in a commercial it's been playing
here in the United States about tariffs. Try to break
(07:22):
down exactly what was in that and how heavily edited
that that commercial was using Reagan's words.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
That's all coming up. Shannon's out today, She'll be back
on my head. Hey Mike, why is it that everybody
thinks Shannon got suspended? I don't know all the time.
Anytime she's gone, should all suspend it?
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Like?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Really, maybe she just wants a day off. Anyways, have
a good day of your show.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
She is taking a day off. She and her husband
had a pre planned trip, so she worked the game
last night. Obviously, the Chargers won by the way, thirty
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(08:10):
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First pitch, Blake Snell pitching for the Dodgers. Before we
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it again an hour from now. So a couple new
polls have come out regarding Proposition fifty. By the way,
for most of us, this is the only thing that
will appear on our ballot in November. This is the
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state's redistricting measure, which will take away from the Independent
Commission on Redistricting. It will take away their power, give
it back to state lawmakers for a while so that
they can gerrymander and squeeze a couple more Democratic seats
out of the California electorate to try to offset what
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other states are doing.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I think was it North Carolina came up.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
They just were able to redraw and come up with
what they believe will be another Republican seat. Texas is
redistricting so that they'll have I believe, five more potential
Republican seats, and then California would redraw to squeeze Republicans
out of representation when it comes to the congressional delegation
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from the state of California. All of this one upsmanship,
all of this going back and forth. Well they did
it first, Well they're the ones who started it. Well,
if you wouldn't let children do it, we should not
let adults and voters do it.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
But apparently that's the way we're going to do This.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
New Emerson College poll found that fifty seven percent of
likely California voters will support prop fifty fifty seven percent.
One of the other polls I saw put it up
over sixty percent. This is quite a flip from when
these initial plans were made by the governor. The whole
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point now is that we could boost the democratic margin.
Right now, we have fifty two congressional seats in the
state of California. Forty three of those are Democrats. So
as of right now, you've got forty f three Deemocrats
and nine Republicans representing California in Congress forty three to nine.
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Not only does that not match the electorate in terms
of voter registration alone. It is so far out of
whack that nobody would allow that in any other state.
Seems California, if redistricted, would lose Republicans would lose five
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of those. Then you would see a Democratic margin of
forty eight Democrats and four Republicans in Congress representing the
state of California forty eight to four. As of right now,
Republicans do hold the majority two nineteen to two thirteen.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
In the House.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
There are three vacancies, et cetera, et cetera. But this
back and forth of their the ones that started it.
Why are we tolerating this? Because there is no Unless
somebody ends it, it doesn't end. That's the way politics
have always gone. There are some new polls that are
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also pointing towards the governor's race. Of course next November
not not coming up, but next November. We are seeing
some movement in the polls. Katie Porter has dropped a
little bit and Steve Hilton has come up ahead. Now again,
this is an Emerson College poll that suggests that in
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the primary coming up in June, who would you support
Steve Hilton Republican comes in at sixteen percent. Katie Porter,
who's been slapped in the face with her own transgressions
when it comes to the videos of her yelling at people,
she comes in at fifteen percent, Chad Bianco third at
eleven percent, and then down from that everybody in single
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digits Via Ragosa, Besarah Thurman, Ye Calder and Klubec. Someone
else is two percent. But still, and this is the
biggest number, thirty nine percent of people say they are
still undecided in terms of who they would support in
the upcoming primary, not just the final but the primary.
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Do Steve Hilton and Chad Bianco combine forces in some
way that would add up to about twenty seven percent?
And would a Republican have an opportunity? Would a Republican
have a chance to win in the state of California? Listen,
if Katie Porter continues to wear the mantle of leader
for the Democrats, I think it does because I think
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she's gonna have a hard time living down the publicity
that she's gotten within the last couple of weeks because
of these videos that go around showing her not being
a nice person. As weird as that sounds, Gary and
Shannon will continue in just a moment.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI Am
six forty.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Shannon's out today back on Monday.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Gary, A little disappointed in you. You're a very informed person,
unlike your co host. Oh I can say that because she's.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Not there today.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I'm smart.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Ottawa is the capital city of Canada. Sure, Ontario is
the province. Okay where those ads are coming from. Just
thought you needed to know.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Bye, Thank you, Ottawa, the city, Ontario, the province. We'll
talk about those ads at the top of the hour.
This is the one that has angered President Trump. He
has cut off all trade negotiations with Canada because of
these commercials. You may have actually seen them watching playoff games.
As a matter of fact, they've shown up a couple
(14:47):
of times in the baseball playoffs.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Hey Gary and Shennon, this is Dell and this is
what I learned this week. All Dell, you're gonna have
to wait until we get to that.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Hey Gary, those poker games were not a victim with crime.
They were a full on setup. They were using equipment
where you could actually tell what the cards were. I
don't know if you've ever seen those glasses or contact
lenses or that setup. But I have a friend who's
a magician who said, it's unbelievable how easy you can
see what the cards are. And it was in a
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five man game. It was one guy getting ripped off
while the other four were all in it. It's not victimless.
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
No, you're right, it's not victimless. Not the I mean,
there is a victim. There's somebody who is losing money
in all of this. And I don't know, just my
heart doesn't bleed for the guy who loses fifty thousand
dollars in a high end poker game like that. Yeah,
he's being taken advantage of. But it is there's something.
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It's just different. It just it just feels different. And
I mentioned this because I wanted to point this out.
One of the allegations against this group of not just mobsters,
but the NBA players that were used as bait to
get these guys into these poker games.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
One of the allegations is that they were using.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
A card shuffler, an automated card shuffler. Almost everywhere you
go now has these card shufflers. Many of the casinos
that you play in will have them built into the table,
not necessarily this one I'm going to talk about, but
they have them built in. While the dealer is playing
one hand, the cards are being shuffled underneath the table
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in the other.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Yeah, in the shuffler.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
In this case specifically, they were talking about a deck
mate iiO that is an automated card shuffler. It has
already been the subject of security controversy because.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
There is a camera in the card shuffler.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Now, the company says, the whole point of having the
card sorry, the camera in the card shuffler is to
make sure that the card deck is complete, that the
camera just quickly snapshots of each of the individual cards,
counts up, make sure there's fifty two, there's no duplicates,
et cetera, et cetera. But a couple of years ago
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at a hacker conference, a team of researchers presented proof
of concept of hacking this thing with the device that
would plug into the USB port on that in that
the tiny computer would alter the code of the shuffler
and actually access the internal camera and then transmit the
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entire deck order to a somebody's phone via Bluetooth whatever
it was. And Okay, so I knew that I knew
that part of it, but I thought, well, that's fixed
when the dealer takes the cards out and someone cuts
the deck right wrong, because all you have to know
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is one card, you'll be able to figure out where
the deck was cut, and then who had all of
the cards based on the order that they were dealt in,
And how do you find out the card Well, if
you're playing Texas hold him as an example, you've got
the flop, You've got, in fact, three cards to base
your marker off of. So once that flop is out,
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you have a better idea as to who has a
good hand right away, who doesn't have a good hand,
who's bluffing.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
All of that stuff makes it available.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
So that is very, very possible that someone in a
crime family knows that that is a possible way to
hack into this deckmate too, and either pays the guys
to help hack it or forces them to hack it
in some way. So I just thought that was a
pretty And as Fred Rogan pointed out, this is a movie.
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I mean, this kind of high end cheating like this
is the subject of movies. If it hasn't already been done,
it probably needs to be done, all right, speaking of cheating.
Everybody's got some sort of fitness app on their phone,
right how to stay in shape. Maybe it's exercise videos
or just counting steps or something like that. Some new
(19:11):
research looks at how those fitness apps might actually sabotage
your motivation to get better.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
We'll talk about that week come back.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
This commercial it was paid for by the Ontario government,
the Ontario provincial government up in Canada regarding Canadian or sorry,
American tariffs on Canadian products and how it disrupted the
trade talks that were supposed to be taking place between
the between the President and the Prime minister. Why he's
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so upset about it, and why the remarks by Ronald
Reagan were used in that commercial to that swamp watch
also Gas Fantasy plays coming along later on in the show,
which means we get to pick four of the NFL
games that are coming up this weekend.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
I was just wondering, when did the station go to
an all sports station.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
It's pretty much all you guys talk about anymore.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Isn't there any news going on?
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Yeah? Elmer quit talking about sports so much. Would you.
I'm sorry, Yeah, well, I don't know how to answer that.
I think I've talked about this before.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I for Christmas last year, I got one of those
fitness tracker rings, right. I wanted it because I wanted
to see what goes on when I sleep. That was
my biggest thing. I felt like sleep wasn't my wasn't
my best quality. Even though I can fall asleep, I
don't feel like I stay asleep as much as I should.
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So I got one of these little things, and you know,
every morning tells me how I slept, gave me, gives
me a little score on my phone, et cetera. And
we've talked before about the reliance on that sort of
biometric measures like that to figure out how you're going
to feel for the rest of the day. If I
look at my sleep score and it's a sixty nine
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when it should be a ninety or something like that,
do I then in the back of my head make
excuses and think, Wow, I'm just going to be dragging
today because I got a sixty nine as opposed to
a ninety one. That can have an effect on how
you approach the day. Although my specific little app says, hey,
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sixty nine wasn't great, but don't worry.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
It's normal to have nights like those. Be gentle with yourself.
It says.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
There is a new study that suggests that fitness apps
can actually cause problems. Instead of motivation and support for
whatever fitness or lifestyle or health goals you might have,
it can be discouraging that daily calorie targets are low,
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so people joke about starving. Goals that are generated by
an algorithm, ignore you as a person in sort of
your natural human biology, and then targets that will actually
transform healthy eating into an exercise in shame and frustration.
Because you can eat healthy and consume eighteen hundred calories
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throughout the course of a day. But if your app,
for example, is telling you that, based on your height, weight,
fitness level, et cetera, your goal should be to consume
negative seven hundred calories a day, you can run into
some problems. That was what one person wrote on Twitter recently, says,
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so my app says if I want to reach my
goal weight, I need to consume negative seven hundred calories
a day. Another one said, the app I won't tell
you which one should be used for tracking calories only
if you allowed to prescribe your calories, you'll end up
with the deficit that's unachievable, unsustainable, and very unhealthy, and
you could also starve to death. Well listen, yeah, there
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are people who are going to follow that to that
advice of the negative seven hundred calories. I don't know
how you would do that other than just expending calories
and never eating anything. But other posts describe how exercising
can actually make the targets harder to achieve. That these
apps calculate calories that are burned during workouts and then
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adjust the daily calorie intake recommendations down to maintain the deficit,
and then they feel like they're being penalized for the
fact that they did more physical activity and that they're
starving too often. The other problem, technical glitches can compound
all of this different calorie counts. When you're sinking the
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same workout across multiple apps, phone batteries will die during
mid workout and you don't get credit for a workout.
Software crashes that can erase all of the progress that
you've made. One runner, by the way, got a personal
record for half marathon and then their phone died before
the workout was uploaded.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Now listen, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
It doesn't matter because you know that you still ran
a record fast half marathon, so that's good. You don't
have to let Strava know that. All your running community
doesn't necessarily need to know that. But they're talking about
unattainable goals that can actually trigger shame in some people. Now,
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if you are aware of what you're doing, you're trying
to live a healthier lifestyle. You're using a tool like
an app to help you gain that, you know, achieve
those goals of that healthier lifestyle.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
It's it's a little bit.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Antithetical, it seems for the goal to trigger shame in you.
But there has to be some adjustment that is made,
whether you use a different app that's a little bit
more tuned to your quality of workout, your me your motivation,
whatever it is. But here's the this can be also
very funny, and you got to laugh it off. This
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thing that you have in your pocket, this phone, It
doesn't have your best interests at heart. It's whatever you
put into it that you're going to get out of it.
Laugh it off. For example, there was one response to
this quote when my hate when my fitness pal asks
why I haven't logged my dinner. I haven't logged my
dinner friend, because I ate a spice bag and a
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mild a tub of ben and Jerry's leave me.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Alone a spice bag. I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
But humor appears as a coping mechanism when all of
this it's if you're using fitness apps for your goals,
just know that they come with a lack of awareness
as to who you are specifically, and don't let it
get you down.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Just put your socks back on, get back out there
and run again. All right. Thursday, that is a week
from yesterday. That is less than a week away.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
We are going to be live at BJ's Restaurant and
brew House in West Covina. Yes, the City of West
Covina has finally pulled its head from its rectum and
will allow us to do a news and bruise at
BJ's Restaurant and brew House again in West Covina next Thursday.
We'll be there from nine am to one pm doing
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the whole show, and we're going to put our shoulder
into it. I think that's the way we say. Up Next,
swamp Watch and what is going on with this burgeoning
conflict I'll use that word between the United States and Venezuela.
That's coming up next hour as well, right here on
Gary and Shannon. You've been listening to The Gary and
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Since it is Friday, we're gonna end the show later
with the nine news nugget you need to know and
what you learned this week on the Gary and Shannon Show.
So if you're listening on the app, make sure that
you hit that little talkback button. It's the red button
that's got a white microphone on it. You tap that
and you can leave us. Leave us a quick message.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Hey Gary, this is John from Narco.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
John.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
So, what did Shannon do this week to get a
one day suspension? I mean that seems kind of petty
for iHeartRadio available everywhere on the iHeart app. To suspend
her for one day, It's like, dude, if you're gonna
suspend her, suspend her for.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Three days or four days or five days.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
One day just seems petty. So she peeved off the
wrong person. Love Show, Buddy Bay.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Thank you. I don't know. I don't know what it
was that she said.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
It could have something to do with the underwear talk
from yesterday, but I'm listen. I don't know specifically, and
I'm not saying that she was suspended. So President Trump
is complaining again about Canada because the TV ads that
protest US tariffs. He said it was egregious behavior aimed
at influencing court decisions. So he posted today on a
(01:20):
social media side that Canada cheated and got caught on
the tariff ads. So as of right now, he said
he's going to end all trade negotiations with Canada. We'll
talk about those coming up in swamp Watch, because he's right.
They were heavily edited from a Reagan speech back in
nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I don't know if Reagan would have liked the way
President Trump has approached tariffs in free trade, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
So we'll talk about that a little bit later.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
The fires that broke out in January have been a
tale of two cities kind of when it comes to
the rebuild, the reaction to and the devastation in the
Pacific Palisades versus the area around Altadena. And as of
right now, the La Times is running with a story
(02:12):
that suggests that Senators have been investigating the Palisades fire
much more aggressively than they have the Eton fire.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
And point to a couple of different things.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Senators Rick Scott out of Florida Ron Johnson out of
Wisconsin have stepped into this, both of them Republicans, have
stepped into this and have written a letter asking City
Council President Marquis Harris Dawson to give over all of
the information they can, all of the documents that pertain
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to LAFD staffing, preparations for wildfire, the water supply issues
that we know existed before the fire, and any other
topics that would surround the Palisades Fire, the preparation, and
whether or not the city was ready for it. In contrast,
the letter only briefly mentions the Eton Fire, which broke
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out that same day. Later that same night, you remember
it started, but we know how that started up until
just a couple of weeks ago, when that guy was
arrested in Florida for starting the January first fire that
we believe kind of smoldered underground and then was blown
up into the firestorm on January seventh, we hadn't really
(03:29):
had a great conclusion about what started the Palisades fire.
We all have a pretty solid conclusion. It appears that,
in fact, it was some what should have been unpowered
so cal edison lines that sparked because of the winds
that were blowing through. On January seventh, the senators, both
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of them Scott and Johnson both sit on the Committee
on Homeland Security and Government Affairs, that opened up the investigation.
After that, they met with Spencer Pratt. Now, if you
have not followed Spencer Pratt, Yes from the Hills. Yes,
the reality TV star Spencer Pratt has been a guy
(04:12):
who has been incredibly active on social media, going after
not just politicians governor Newsom, mayor Bass, et cetera, but
the way the government in general has handled the rebuilding
process and the investigation into the fire. They met with
Spencer Pratt and at the time they said that the
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Palisades fire was an unacceptable failure or a government to
protect the lives and the property of its citizens as
of right now. This is supposed to be a look
at cities emergency preparations, the lack of water as I mentioned,
and fire hydrants. Also records relating to the reservoir when
(04:56):
it comes to wildfire prep, suppression, response, voting, but not
limited to the response to the Palisades fire and to
the Lockman fire, referring to the one that was started
back on January first. But again, at this point, this
is city senators asking the city of La specifically for
information that pertains to the Palisades fire, but not the Eton.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Fire.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Officials in La County said that they have not gotten
a letter asking for information on either one of those fires.
Of course, they neither La County Supervisor Barger, who is
currently the board chair, or Supervisor Lindsay Horvath, said they
have gotten any of those letters. She Barger represents Altadina
(05:43):
Horvath represents the Palisades for the county and Malibu and
some of the unincorporated.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Areas in there that are affected by that fire.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
So as of right now, the Senate appears to be
just paying attention to policy. Is it a matter of money? Probably,
I mean that's the way politics works. There's a lot
of people and Palisades who have a whole lot more
political power than some of the people in Altadena when
it comes to figuring out what started the fire. But
again it's also because we already have a pretty good
conclusion about what started the fire in Altadena, So in
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terms of being ready, yeah, there's a whole lot of
information and investigation that needs to be done in Altadena
about why the emergency alerts weren't sent out in a
timely manner, why they were only sent out to parts
of Altadena, despite the fact that most of those people
who died in Altadena were in a specific area. So
all of that coming back the poll over Prop fifty.
(06:39):
I am an anti Prop fifty guy, so this is
not good news. But we'll talk about the new polls
for Prop fifty and these odds that have come out
Vegas odds regarding the race to become the next governor
of the great State of California.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
A bunch of stuff that we're following. Of course, we'll
get into during swamp. Watch that story about President Trump
canceling all of the trade negotiations and he had planned
with Canada because Canada used Reagan's words. Not Canada, but
Ottawa used Reagan's words in a commercial it's been playing
here in the United States about tariffs. Try to break
(07:22):
down exactly what was in that and how heavily edited
that that commercial was using Reagan's words.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
That's all coming up. Shannon's out today, She'll be back
on my head. Hey Mike, why is it that everybody
thinks Shannon got suspended? I don't know all the time.
Anytime she's gone, should all suspend it?
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Like?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Really, maybe she just wants a day off. Anyways, have
a good day of your show.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
She is taking a day off. She and her husband
had a pre planned trip, so she worked the game
last night. Obviously, the Chargers won by the way, thirty
seven to ten. I think it was the final score
over the Minnesota Vikings. Speaking of which, the Rams have
a bye this weekend. For your Rams fans, both basketball
teams in action at home tonight, of course, the Lakers
(08:10):
host the Timberwolves downtown. The Clippers will host the Phoenix
Suns back over in Inglewood. And then Big One, of course,
is Game one of the World Series tonight, five o'clock.
First pitch, Blake Snell pitching for the Dodgers. Before we
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it again an hour from now. So a couple new
polls have come out regarding Proposition fifty. By the way,
for most of us, this is the only thing that
will appear on our ballot in November. This is the
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state's redistricting measure, which will take away from the Independent
Commission on Redistricting. It will take away their power, give
it back to state lawmakers for a while so that
they can gerrymander and squeeze a couple more Democratic seats
out of the California electorate to try to offset what
(09:38):
other states are doing.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I think was it North Carolina came up.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
They just were able to redraw and come up with
what they believe will be another Republican seat. Texas is
redistricting so that they'll have I believe, five more potential
Republican seats, and then California would redraw to squeeze Republicans
out of representation when it comes to the congressional delegation
(10:02):
from the state of California. All of this one upsmanship,
all of this going back and forth. Well they did
it first, Well they're the ones who started it. Well,
if you wouldn't let children do it, we should not
let adults and voters do it.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
But apparently that's the way we're going to do This.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
New Emerson College poll found that fifty seven percent of
likely California voters will support prop fifty fifty seven percent.
One of the other polls I saw put it up
over sixty percent. This is quite a flip from when
these initial plans were made by the governor. The whole
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point now is that we could boost the democratic margin.
Right now, we have fifty two congressional seats in the
state of California. Forty three of those are Democrats. So
as of right now, you've got forty f three Deemocrats
and nine Republicans representing California in Congress forty three to nine.
(11:07):
Not only does that not match the electorate in terms
of voter registration alone. It is so far out of
whack that nobody would allow that in any other state.
Seems California, if redistricted, would lose Republicans would lose five
(11:31):
of those. Then you would see a Democratic margin of
forty eight Democrats and four Republicans in Congress representing the
state of California forty eight to four. As of right now,
Republicans do hold the majority two nineteen to two thirteen.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
In the House.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
There are three vacancies, et cetera, et cetera. But this
back and forth of their the ones that started it.
Why are we tolerating this? Because there is no Unless
somebody ends it, it doesn't end. That's the way politics
have always gone. There are some new polls that are
(12:15):
also pointing towards the governor's race. Of course next November
not not coming up, but next November. We are seeing
some movement in the polls. Katie Porter has dropped a
little bit and Steve Hilton has come up ahead. Now again,
this is an Emerson College poll that suggests that in
(12:38):
the primary coming up in June, who would you support
Steve Hilton Republican comes in at sixteen percent. Katie Porter,
who's been slapped in the face with her own transgressions
when it comes to the videos of her yelling at people,
she comes in at fifteen percent, Chad Bianco third at
eleven percent, and then down from that everybody in single
(13:00):
digits Via Ragosa, Besarah Thurman, Ye Calder and Klubec. Someone
else is two percent. But still, and this is the
biggest number, thirty nine percent of people say they are
still undecided in terms of who they would support in
the upcoming primary, not just the final but the primary.
(13:21):
Do Steve Hilton and Chad Bianco combine forces in some
way that would add up to about twenty seven percent?
And would a Republican have an opportunity? Would a Republican
have a chance to win in the state of California? Listen,
if Katie Porter continues to wear the mantle of leader
for the Democrats, I think it does because I think
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she's gonna have a hard time living down the publicity
that she's gotten within the last couple of weeks because
of these videos that go around showing her not being
a nice person. As weird as that sounds, Gary and
Shannon will continue in just a moment.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI Am
six forty.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Shannon's out today back on Monday.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Gary, A little disappointed in you. You're a very informed person,
unlike your co host. Oh I can say that because she's.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Not there today.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I'm smart.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Ottawa is the capital city of Canada. Sure, Ontario is
the province. Okay where those ads are coming from. Just
thought you needed to know.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Bye, Thank you, Ottawa, the city, Ontario, the province. We'll
talk about those ads at the top of the hour.
This is the one that has angered President Trump. He
has cut off all trade negotiations with Canada because of
these commercials. You may have actually seen them watching playoff games.
As a matter of fact, they've shown up a couple
(14:47):
of times in the baseball playoffs.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Hey Gary and Shennon, this is Dell and this is
what I learned this week. All Dell, you're gonna have
to wait until we get to that.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Hey Gary, those poker games were not a victim with crime.
They were a full on setup. They were using equipment
where you could actually tell what the cards were. I
don't know if you've ever seen those glasses or contact
lenses or that setup. But I have a friend who's
a magician who said, it's unbelievable how easy you can
see what the cards are. And it was in a
(15:16):
five man game. It was one guy getting ripped off
while the other four were all in it. It's not victimless.
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
No, you're right, it's not victimless. Not the I mean,
there is a victim. There's somebody who is losing money
in all of this. And I don't know, just my
heart doesn't bleed for the guy who loses fifty thousand
dollars in a high end poker game like that. Yeah,
he's being taken advantage of. But it is there's something.
(15:44):
It's just different. It just it just feels different. And
I mentioned this because I wanted to point this out.
One of the allegations against this group of not just mobsters,
but the NBA players that were used as bait to
get these guys into these poker games.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
One of the allegations is that they were using.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
A card shuffler, an automated card shuffler. Almost everywhere you
go now has these card shufflers. Many of the casinos
that you play in will have them built into the table,
not necessarily this one I'm going to talk about, but
they have them built in. While the dealer is playing
one hand, the cards are being shuffled underneath the table
(16:25):
in the other.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Yeah, in the shuffler.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
In this case specifically, they were talking about a deck
mate iiO that is an automated card shuffler. It has
already been the subject of security controversy because.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
There is a camera in the card shuffler.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Now, the company says, the whole point of having the
card sorry, the camera in the card shuffler is to
make sure that the card deck is complete, that the
camera just quickly snapshots of each of the individual cards,
counts up, make sure there's fifty two, there's no duplicates,
et cetera, et cetera. But a couple of years ago
(17:12):
at a hacker conference, a team of researchers presented proof
of concept of hacking this thing with the device that
would plug into the USB port on that in that
the tiny computer would alter the code of the shuffler
and actually access the internal camera and then transmit the
(17:33):
entire deck order to a somebody's phone via Bluetooth whatever
it was. And Okay, so I knew that I knew
that part of it, but I thought, well, that's fixed
when the dealer takes the cards out and someone cuts
the deck right wrong, because all you have to know
(17:54):
is one card, you'll be able to figure out where
the deck was cut, and then who had all of
the cards based on the order that they were dealt in,
And how do you find out the card Well, if
you're playing Texas hold him as an example, you've got
the flop, You've got, in fact, three cards to base
your marker off of. So once that flop is out,
(18:17):
you have a better idea as to who has a
good hand right away, who doesn't have a good hand,
who's bluffing.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
All of that stuff makes it available.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
So that is very, very possible that someone in a
crime family knows that that is a possible way to
hack into this deckmate too, and either pays the guys
to help hack it or forces them to hack it
in some way. So I just thought that was a
pretty And as Fred Rogan pointed out, this is a movie.
(18:49):
I mean, this kind of high end cheating like this
is the subject of movies. If it hasn't already been done,
it probably needs to be done, all right, speaking of cheating.
Everybody's got some sort of fitness app on their phone,
right how to stay in shape. Maybe it's exercise videos
or just counting steps or something like that. Some new
(19:11):
research looks at how those fitness apps might actually sabotage
your motivation to get better.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
We'll talk about that week come back.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
This commercial it was paid for by the Ontario government,
the Ontario provincial government up in Canada regarding Canadian or sorry,
American tariffs on Canadian products and how it disrupted the
trade talks that were supposed to be taking place between
the between the President and the Prime minister. Why he's
(19:50):
so upset about it, and why the remarks by Ronald
Reagan were used in that commercial to that swamp watch
also Gas Fantasy plays coming along later on in the show,
which means we get to pick four of the NFL
games that are coming up this weekend.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
I was just wondering, when did the station go to
an all sports station.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
It's pretty much all you guys talk about anymore.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Isn't there any news going on?
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Yeah? Elmer quit talking about sports so much. Would you.
I'm sorry, Yeah, well, I don't know how to answer that.
I think I've talked about this before.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I for Christmas last year, I got one of those
fitness tracker rings, right. I wanted it because I wanted
to see what goes on when I sleep. That was
my biggest thing. I felt like sleep wasn't my wasn't
my best quality. Even though I can fall asleep, I
don't feel like I stay asleep as much as I should.
(20:46):
So I got one of these little things, and you know,
every morning tells me how I slept, gave me, gives
me a little score on my phone, et cetera. And
we've talked before about the reliance on that sort of
biometric measures like that to figure out how you're going
to feel for the rest of the day. If I
look at my sleep score and it's a sixty nine
(21:08):
when it should be a ninety or something like that,
do I then in the back of my head make
excuses and think, Wow, I'm just going to be dragging
today because I got a sixty nine as opposed to
a ninety one. That can have an effect on how
you approach the day. Although my specific little app says, hey,
(21:28):
sixty nine wasn't great, but don't worry.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
It's normal to have nights like those. Be gentle with yourself.
It says.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
There is a new study that suggests that fitness apps
can actually cause problems. Instead of motivation and support for
whatever fitness or lifestyle or health goals you might have,
it can be discouraging that daily calorie targets are low,
(21:57):
so people joke about starving. Goals that are generated by
an algorithm, ignore you as a person in sort of
your natural human biology, and then targets that will actually
transform healthy eating into an exercise in shame and frustration.
Because you can eat healthy and consume eighteen hundred calories
(22:20):
throughout the course of a day. But if your app,
for example, is telling you that, based on your height, weight,
fitness level, et cetera, your goal should be to consume
negative seven hundred calories a day, you can run into
some problems. That was what one person wrote on Twitter recently, says,
(22:42):
so my app says if I want to reach my
goal weight, I need to consume negative seven hundred calories
a day. Another one said, the app I won't tell
you which one should be used for tracking calories only
if you allowed to prescribe your calories, you'll end up
with the deficit that's unachievable, unsustainable, and very unhealthy, and
you could also starve to death. Well listen, yeah, there
(23:03):
are people who are going to follow that to that
advice of the negative seven hundred calories. I don't know
how you would do that other than just expending calories
and never eating anything. But other posts describe how exercising
can actually make the targets harder to achieve. That these
apps calculate calories that are burned during workouts and then
(23:24):
adjust the daily calorie intake recommendations down to maintain the deficit,
and then they feel like they're being penalized for the
fact that they did more physical activity and that they're
starving too often. The other problem, technical glitches can compound
all of this different calorie counts. When you're sinking the
(23:47):
same workout across multiple apps, phone batteries will die during
mid workout and you don't get credit for a workout.
Software crashes that can erase all of the progress that
you've made. One runner, by the way, got a personal
record for half marathon and then their phone died before
the workout was uploaded.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Now listen, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
It doesn't matter because you know that you still ran
a record fast half marathon, so that's good. You don't
have to let Strava know that. All your running community
doesn't necessarily need to know that. But they're talking about
unattainable goals that can actually trigger shame in some people. Now,
(24:29):
if you are aware of what you're doing, you're trying
to live a healthier lifestyle. You're using a tool like
an app to help you gain that, you know, achieve
those goals of that healthier lifestyle.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
It's it's a little bit.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Antithetical, it seems for the goal to trigger shame in you.
But there has to be some adjustment that is made,
whether you use a different app that's a little bit
more tuned to your quality of workout, your me your motivation,
whatever it is. But here's the this can be also
very funny, and you got to laugh it off. This
(25:07):
thing that you have in your pocket, this phone, It
doesn't have your best interests at heart. It's whatever you
put into it that you're going to get out of it.
Laugh it off. For example, there was one response to
this quote when my hate when my fitness pal asks
why I haven't logged my dinner. I haven't logged my
dinner friend, because I ate a spice bag and a
(25:30):
mild a tub of ben and Jerry's leave me.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Alone a spice bag. I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
But humor appears as a coping mechanism when all of
this it's if you're using fitness apps for your goals,
just know that they come with a lack of awareness
as to who you are specifically, and don't let it
get you down.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Just put your socks back on, get back out there
and run again. All right. Thursday, that is a week
from yesterday. That is less than a week away.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
We are going to be live at BJ's Restaurant and
brew House in West Covina. Yes, the City of West
Covina has finally pulled its head from its rectum and
will allow us to do a news and bruise at
BJ's Restaurant and brew House again in West Covina next Thursday.
We'll be there from nine am to one pm doing
(26:24):
the whole show, and we're going to put our shoulder
into it. I think that's the way we say. Up Next,
swamp Watch and what is going on with this burgeoning
conflict I'll use that word between the United States and Venezuela.
That's coming up next hour as well, right here on
Gary and Shannon. You've been listening to The Gary and
Shannon Show. You can always hear us live on KFIAM
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