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July 24, 2025 31 mins
Michael Monks joins the show to discuss A.G. Rob Bonta’s plan to take control of L.A. County juvenile halls. Edison pays Eaton fire victims. LA Business tax repeal.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
A M six forty, The Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hey, Gary and Shannon, Chuck MANGIONI played the flugelhorn. Oh yes,
and he was awesome. Ye, rest in peace. That's the
that's what I was looking for. Flugelhorn. Sure, it's a
larger trumpet. It's also tuned to be flat, but it's
a flugel horn, and that's why he sounds. So it
sounds like a beer, or like a pretzel, or a ride.

(00:30):
A flugel horn.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Like something that you'd find it a bad county fair.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Maybe like a schnitzel alongside your flugelhorn.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Someone who's a little bit meffed out running the controls
of the flugelhorn ride. Yeah, hell yeah, they slept under
the ride.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
If my operator's not on meth and hasn't been up
for two weeks, I don't want a part of it.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah. Where's the adventure?

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Right?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Also, where's the teeth?

Speaker 1 (00:55):
If you've got a full set of teeth and you
work at a fair, you're a freaking serial killer.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
You're hiding from Michael Monks.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yesterday, California is Attorney General Rob Bonta decided that he
was going to place La Or he may have decided earlier,
but he announced that he's going to place La County'
juvenile facilities into receivership because of bad conditions and an
inability apparently to comply with the court orders that forced
reforms but that never took place. Break it all down

(01:22):
for us, Well, you're exactly right.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
The county has been aware that its juvenile facility halls
are not in good condition, and that children are abused,
that they engage in fights, that drugs are smuggled in,
that security cameras are not up to snuff. In fact,
the Attorney General Rob Bonta came to Los Angeles to
make this announcement yesterday and laid it all out. If
Elmore has that sound, we can play that. Here's what's happening.

Speaker 6 (01:45):
In just a six month period, sixty nine youth on
youth fights were allowed or facilitated by probation staff, impacting
one hundred and forty three young victims. Multiple youth that
lows for juvenile hall have overdosed, even after the court
ordered stronger contraband controls youth are missing critical medical appointments,

(02:10):
and security cameras remain inadequate, and key footage goes unreviewed.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
So he comes down to lay all of this out,
stuff that we all know already. But he's basically saying,
we've given you time, we've tried to work with you,
we reached an agreement before you're out of compliance with
seventy five percent of that, it's time for the state
to taken from Let's.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Be honest, they don't care about them kids. Let's talk
about the money.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Are these kids getting lawyers who are suing the county
and the state because of the mist of medical appointments
or what have you, and making some cash of this.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Part of what the Attorney General said is that not
only are we asking the courts to create a receivership
as it's legally known as basically putting one of their
guys in charge of the system, he's asking for a
compensation fund to be established for all of the kids
who have been harmed. And we learned this year that
La County does not have a good track record for

(03:04):
decades and taking care of kids who are in juvenile halls,
who are in the foster care system. It was a
massive sex abuse settlement that was announced just a while ago.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
So it was like a retroactive one, wasn't it.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
Yeah, dating back decades, and so the Attorney General seems
to be aware that there are going to be other
costs associated with this. On behalf of the people who
have been impacted by this, and we report nearly monthly
something that has happened at Los Patrino's, the Juvenile Hall
in Downey, which seems to be the worst player. Now,

(03:39):
the supervisors, the Board of Supervisors, they seem to welcome this.
They have done some things in recent meetings to try
to get more oversight, to try to get better answers
to improve condition. Supervisor Janis Hans as, we spent years
trying to improve conditions, exhausted every tool at the county level,
and still we are failing these young people. She says,

(04:00):
she stands by ready to help. It was interesting I
thought a statement from Supervisor Lindsay Horvath that basically says,
in order for a receivership to have a chance at
successful restructuring, the state must take on the challenge La
County has faced for decades employment agreements and civil service
procedures that have protected the rights of those who have

(04:22):
harmed our young people instead of the young people ourselves.
Basically sounds like she's blaming the unions. She's saying that
for protecting the personnel, have gotten in the way of
the This is what she said directly. The county is
backing a piece of legislation in Sacramento to give us
the tools to fix this crisis. But much of the

(04:42):
probation department staff, especially probation union leadership, continue to stand
in their own way. They're blocking reform at every turn,
and our young people are paying the price.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
I feel like we're always in this state of union
pushback and counties watching their ass and nobody cares about
the kids, and it's all me, me, me, and Bonta
wants a microphone.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
It's just exhausting, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
I'll tell you just last week, you and I were
talking about this measure G that was adopted in November
to expand the Board of Supervisors from five members to
nine at this newly elected county executive like a county mayor.
But they made a mistake and reforming the charter, changing
the charter that was approved with that ballot measure because
it repealed Measured j from twenty twenty, which dedicated ten

(05:33):
percent of unrestricted funds to social justice causes. The way
Supervisor Horvath talked about that last week, she literally said,
I'm losing sleep over this, and we're going to fix this.
We've directed county staff to figure out what went wrong,
whether we need to put it back on the ballot,
and so that. Yeah, I'm not dismissing the importance of
that to her and to other people, but she literally

(05:54):
said I'm losing sleep over that. And you did not
hear the same responses from these supervisors over the state
taking over the juvenile attention centers.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Right, so probation is in charge of it, right, the
County Probation department isn't tradule. So what was the response
from County probation. Are they able to say this is
not true, or we don't like this, or yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:16):
I know that.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
We've heard from workers inside, rank and file folks who
saw this coming for a while. So leadership will try
to defend themselves because they could be the target of
some of these legal settlements. But as far as the
rank and file employees, they've been talking for a long
time off the record, that these problems are real, they're mounting,
and no one seems to be doing anything about it.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Okay, well, so we'll take a court decision.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
He's asking the court to do this to and basically
the guy he wants to have in charge is a
guy who's already been working with the facilities on behalf
of the state and supervising that agreement that's been failing.
So he thinks that he would have more control to
implement reform under a ship.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
You know that process. The name is Michael Dempsey.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
He's the executive director of the National Council of Juvenile
Justice Administrators.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Is who approves that? Does he have to go to
court to get approved? Yes?

Speaker 5 (07:11):
Okay, so he's asking a court. Literally, he's asking a
court to do this, and I'm not a legal scholar.
Will watch and see how it plays out, but you
have to say that there is some some evidence to
support their.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Michael, how are you you know?

Speaker 5 (07:25):
I'm glad Gary's back. I enjoyed the time we spent
together was fun. I appreciate it. We had some good times.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Gary.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
I don't know how much you heard, but I will
tell you while it was Michael and Shannon during the
ten o'clock hours.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Last week. We started a new business called meat Candy.
Oh that's right, I forgot about meat.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
We wrote a Lifetime original thriller starring Meg Ryan and
Tom Hanks, and the audience got involved.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
In the script.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
Meg Ryan's stuck in the woods. Oh that Tom Hanks
is in a cabin. There was a kid with Meg Ryan.
Tom's got a dog, he's a widow. They're gonna come
save them. Yeah, we don't need to go back down
that road. We did tarot readings.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
We did there's crystals involved.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
We created a nineteen eighties country male female duet tribute group.
I mean all of this happened on the air.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
We did get a lot of real work done. So
what kind of stuff happened off the air? I shudder
to ask. We cuddled? We didn't either. There were some
light there was some light cuddling that was not light cuddling.
She does not seem like a cuddler, not around here,
around here, that's for damn sure. I don't know where
these people have been. I have no idea. We carmel sweat.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
I'm wearing it just for you, and it was gonna
be on the show today and I like a hoodie
in the morning, and this is the one today.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Just very tempted to buy a shirt that simply said
MAUI and I.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Was like, everywhere I've gone, I think of him. I
just so you know, I would have loved that. I know,
a great gift for me.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
I can't give you too much. Well, you gave me
the chair for a couple of home one.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Day or something. Sand New cuddles a little bit.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Okay, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM. Six forty.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Justice Department officials are supposed to be meeting with Gallaine
Maxwell today, of course, the imprisoned girlfriend of convicted sex
offender Jeffrey Epstein. The meeting today in Florida is part
of a Justice Department effort to cast itself as transparent, following,
of course, backlash from people who have said that they
are not releasing the additional Epstein records that exist. Lawyer

(09:33):
for Glaine Maxwell so she will always testify truthfully. She
was convicted of helping Epstein sexually abuse underage girls. Of course,
Epstein died or suicided or whatever happened to him in jail.
The House Oversight Committee had also subpoenaed Gallaine Maxwell for

(09:53):
a deposition that is supposed to take place in a
few weeks.

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Well, we've got a plane that nearly landed on top
of another plane.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
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Speaker 4 (11:03):
It's Gary and Shannon's Terror in the skies on KFI.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
It was a Delta passenger jet that aboarded takeoff this
week in Mexico City after its flight crew observed another
plane landing in front of the same runway.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
This was the Delta Boeing seven thirty seven eight, one
hundred and forty four people on board, a couple of pilots,
few flight attendants getting ready for take off for Atlanta
just Monday morning. The flight crew spotted another plane landing
in front of them. It was identified as an mbreyor
E one operated by Aero Mexican.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
I love Delta. I love them, and this is one
of the reasons. They're like, Oh, that plan's not supposed
to be there. Let's aboord our actions pilot didn't take
off into any other plane.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yes, yes, that's good, Delta spokesperson said.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
The airline filed reports with aviation authorities in Mexico as
well as the FAA and the US NTSB. They were
about two hundred feet apart. That's as close as they got.
The Delta airplane only reached speeds of about sixty miles
an hour before it threw on the brakes pretty quickly. Which, listen,
I've not been involved in one of those.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I've not been.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Involved in a go around. I've not been involved in
an aborted takeoff or landing. I think that would be
pretty terrifying.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I've got to say, because I have been involved in
a whatever you call it. When you're going to land
and then you decide you can't land, go around.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, I got to say, that's what we pilots.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
It actually made me feel safer that that's an option.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
And that they took that option. Well, you're also a
relatively short flight if I remember right. But I mean,
doesn't matter when you're landing, right, doesn't matter how along
the plane the plane's been in the air.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
You're landing and it's windy as hell, and they're just like,
you know what, No, when they pull back up and
you and you circle around or what have you. A
couple of times that made me feel good that they
made that decision, that they were cautious. Yeah, I was like,
you know what, No, it's like the Kobe helicopter guy,
you know, not cautious, was like I can do it,
We're gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
That is funny. When my family flew in, we all
flew into Kahaului Airport there on Maui, and we all
came in within a few hours of each other on
a day that was really, really windy, and everybody had
stories about I thought the wingtip was going to hit
the runway before we did. Like it was bouncy and

(13:28):
one of the crazier landings I think that any of
us had ever experienced. It was all but I don't
know what. I don't know what constitutes or what rises
to the level of being two.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
I know because windy was crazy. The best on YouTube, right,
crazy landings. There's so many videos of that. It's all
wind related. I mean planes coming down, landing perpendicular.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
You've seen all of those videos across winds, right.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
But anyway, and then we've got a hot flight attend.
I would say, some people would call him hot flight attendant.
Don't you looking at his mug shot.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
I'm going to let you sit in that because I'm
gonna I want you to describe what he's accused of doing.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Well, I'm just saying the picture alone. Remember the hot
the hot fallon that that mugshot that went virala the
guy who knows what he did?

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Huh, I see you don't remember seeing that? You like
bad boys? I get it. No, No, it's not for me.
You were saying he's hot. I'm saying he looks like Dexter.
Does he look like that actor? He looks a little
bit like uh Dean Kane?

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yes, yeah, exactly, And a lot of women would argue
that Dean Canes. Maybe no, Mark Santa's better looking guy. Okay,
EST's Carter Thompson the third is his name. He was
a flight attendant for American Airlines and he has been
sentenced to eighteen and a half years in prison because

(14:55):
he taped his phone to the airport airplane toilet lid
to film young girls.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Awful, But why include this mugshot?

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Like if that guy didn't look like that, the mugshot
would not even be in the story, right.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
He apparently was arrested in Virginia of January of last year.
He had recordings of a fourteen year old girl and
four other girls age of seven, nine, eleven, and fourteen
that were recorded over a nine month period. He's setup
involved concealing his iPhone beneath a warning sticker. That red
seat broken on the plane's toilet. It was discovered by

(15:38):
a fourteen year old girl on a flight bound for Boston.
She snaps a photo of the setup and shows her father,
who confronted the flight attendant.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Wow, and they would have had taken that guy out
on a stretcher.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
That word gets around that airplane. Oh yeah, tek pictures
of kids, all right?

Speaker 3 (15:56):
So so cal Edison says that they're going to come
in and start pay people for damages from the eaton fire.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Wait.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
I thought they're still fighting the theory that they are
the ones who caused the fire in the first place.
This is called greasing the skids so they can get
out from legal liability.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Boobs.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
They're all different, right, It's not a uniform situation.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
No, But like those, they're pretty common tendencies.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
I guess in terms of shape and size. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Oh, he told you that the eighties are dying right
in front of us. Malcolm Jamal Warner, of course, died
in that tragic drowning accident. Costa Rica. Ozzy Osbourne passed away.
We found out today that Hulk Hogan passed away.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Chuck MANGIONI passed away, And I found out that there
is a show that you might want to go too quickly.
The I Want My Eighties Tour is playing the Hollywood
Bowl this weekend. Oh are they going to have enough people?
Rick Springfield, John Waite, Wang Chung, Paul Young, and John Cafferty. Okay,
do you remember any of those? Jesse's Girl? Yes?

Speaker 1 (17:12):
John Waite is the one who sings that one song.
I love that song. It endures the test of time,
doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Jesse's Girl? What about Paul Young?

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Paul Young? What was that one about every time you go?
Every time you go, you take a piece of me
with you. Yes, that sounds like a serial killer.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
John Cafferty, John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Cafferty and
the Beaver browns.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
No hit me Beaver Brown Band. Sure, it's at Let's
see today is today? It's in? How do you say it? Quay?

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Paul Oklahoma at the Downstream Casino Resort. Tomorrow it's the
United Wireless Arena, Dodge City, Kansas.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Man.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
They're playing some big cities. That sounds like and then
the twenty seventh, so that would be seventh.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
What day is that? Sunday?

Speaker 3 (18:04):
I kind of feel like I gotta go. Twenty seventh
is Sunday night at the Hollywood Bowl.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
What's it called again? I want my eighties tour Rick
Springfield and guests. That sounds like fun.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
After that, next week they go up towards Sacramento. I believe,
to the thunder Valley Casino Resort.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
I love thunder Valley. I've made a lot of good
decisions there.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Down to Ocean Side on the third. No, maybe a
little too far ocean. The Ocean Side's a little too fancy.
They play Saratoga on August seconds see seven thirty on
Sunday night. Let's see what these tickets are. I want
my eighties.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Just the other day we saw Steve Miller on TV,
like current Steve Miller. Yeah, and he was not who
you remember Steve.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
I don't remember any of these guys, so it'll all
be new to me in that case. That's great.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
And you don't look at the album covers from the
from the early eighties if you don't want.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
To be I think we've all cut our own bangs
at one point and never a good IDEA bang would
be incredible.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
I kind of want to do it, if you want
to do it. In the twelve o'clock hour, got scissors
over there?

Speaker 2 (19:15):
There's scissors everywhere? I know. Why can I ask you this?

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Why there are scissors in every room in this radio
station Like we're some sort of draft organization, Like we're
in a kindergarten where we're doing crafts.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
They're all they are, all those snubnosed, dumb kid scissors. Yes,
in case, I think in twenty one plus years of
working here, I've used scissors zero. I think I've used
them a couple times, but never for scissors. No, I
always use for other stuff. Put my jeans off? What

(19:52):
I was confused too? You've never had cut off jeans?
Oh yeah, yeah? When hey, when you frame them? You
know what what are you wearing right now? Elmer? You
wearing jeans? No? No, no, never had cut off khakis.
I'm cutting bangs. You can cut your pants. So Cal Edison.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
So Cal Edison says it's going to offer to pay
eaten fire victims directly for damages suffered, even though even
though so Cal Edison has not yet officially taken responsibility
for the fire back on January seventh.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
They are planning.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Edison is planning to put together what they call a
wildfire recovery compensation program this fall. If you lost the house,
if you lost a business, if you lost a rental
property in the fire, you would be eligible. It would
also cover those who were harmed by smoke damage that
may have suffered physical injuries, or even had family members

(20:51):
who died.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
There were nineteen people who died in that ETN fire.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Even though the details of this are still to be
figured out, we know that dozens of lawsuits have already
been filed against Edison, and there are videos that appear
to show of fire starting under a transmission line way
out in Eaton Canyon. The cause is technically still under investigation,

(21:16):
but even the chief executive of Edison says the leading
theory is that it was a transmission line. May have
been idle, but it was still a transmission line that
somehow became re energized and started that fire. They said
they're going to try to quickly compensate victims, including those
who were insured, and you can apply with or without
an attorney. Is expected to run through all of next year.

(21:41):
If Edison is found responsible, the twenty one billion dollar
wildfire fund from the state is expected to reimburse the
company for all or most of the payments it makes
to its victims. So even if Edison is found responsible,
tax payer money would reimburse the company for the most
of the payments.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
That's a great deal for Edison.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
There are a bunch of business leaders that are fed
up with the business tax here in the city of
la and they have submitted.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Paperwork to do away with this.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
This is for a ballot measure that would repeal this
ridiculous business tax. It would strip away a tax that's
imposed on a number of businesses, entertainment companies, childcare providers,
law firms, a bunch of things. This is a tax
long reviled by the business community. But the city, which
is already cashtrap, says that this is an attack on

(22:35):
public safety because the budget's.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Going to take an eight hundred million dollar hit because
of it.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
So do we demand that the city figure out how
to spend the money we do give it and give
businesses a more friendly environment. It seems like this is
going to be up to voters. We'll tell you about it.
When we come back.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Coming up up tomorrow, we will talk about a story
involving AI chat GPT now giving instructions for murder, self mutilation,
and devil worship. We're gonna have a big AI block tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
The fertility rate in the United States has dropped to
an all time low.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Now I heard you, you're than one point six children
being born per woman.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
And I understand that, and I heard this being talked
about earlier. Fertility rate is very different from we don't
want to have kids rate. Fertility implies that people are
trying but not getting pregnant.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Well, I think it's mixed in there. I think that
they're combined.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
But I mean it makes it sound like we're trying
to have kids and we can't. Right many people are
making the decision not to have kids and going to
great lengths to make sure they're not having kids, or
at the very least they're waiting until much like they're
waiting or they're not in relationships or what have you.
The making baby's rate is what it should be.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Called making baby's rate for you. Breweries dominated the twenty
twenty five US Open Beer Championship. I don't know if
you saw that schedule come out. A couple of notables
actually from our friends at Old Stump and Pomona. They
won silver for the Old Ale cat Or category for
their deeply rooted beer. And then summer I pa one

(24:18):
of bronze in the brute ip So this.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Is a good beer championship, not how much can I drink?
Beer championship? Right, I was going to put you quality.
I was going to see how many you could How
many beers do you think you could have in a sitting?

Speaker 2 (24:29):
What are we talking? You need to narrow that down.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Let's say a four point six percent beer, So like
a Coors Light accession, a session IPA.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
A session IPA. What's what's my top end? I mean, like,
when do I know I'm done? When you just can't,
I just can't have another one? Yeah, like my my
belly is so.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Physically distinctly cannot because it's not like you get naked
and start slapping ass.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
I've seen you after beers. You just you're just you,
which is great. I'm helpful. I'm helpful. You are very
help full. And eight eight I think I could have
eight before. I was like, I don't think, And what's
my time frame? This twelve o'clock hours? Getting real good? Bangs?
Eight beers? What's my time frame again?

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Do I just start and just keep when one's done?
The next one hour? An hour? Okay, I can't do
two hours eating? You can do too, You could do that,
You could do that. Yeah, that's one every fifteen minutes.
It's won a segment.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
I've done that before. All right, So where did I
put this?

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Ah?

Speaker 2 (25:37):
These business leaders here we go. Okay.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
The group of business leaders have submitted the paperwork to
get rid of the reviled business tax that exists here
in Los Angeles. They want to fight what has become
an anti job climate, anti business climate at city Hall.
There are five business leaders who have signed the ballot measure.

(26:00):
They believe the city has ignored the pleas of small
and medium sized businesses for years, and as a result,
restaurants other establishments have headed out of Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
And it's true. Look around.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Michael Monks talks about it all the time, just looking
at downtown alone. City Hall is losing their minds over
this because this business tax generates more than eight hundred
million a year for the general fund, the very things
that we expect the city to do with our tax dollars,
police fire, fix the holes, paramedics. They say that without

(26:34):
this money from the business community, that we won't have
those things. They're calling it assault on public safety.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
That's always been one of the I think, as I've
grown older, one of the questions that I've always had
for municipal leaders, county board supervisors, city council something like that,
that if you come into that bus, if you come
into that world of politics and policymaking without.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Having a good.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Breadth of knowledge about your community, whatever it is, from
business to nonprofit, to education, to transportation, all that sort
of stuff. If you don't have one of those key
knowledge areas, which in this case would be business, how
to run a business, what it takes to run a business,
you can't legislate appropriately. And it sounds like this is

(27:22):
exactly what these business leaders are saying to the city council,
which is, you guys don't understand how hard it is
already to run a business. And anecdotally, I feel like
we talked about it on this show, probably at the
beginning of the show almost ten years ago, now, and

(27:43):
it was a decision by the City of LA to
increase business licenses, the business license that you have to
have in the city to operate, and they were raising
it to basically a small percentage of what you were
making every year is what you have to pay. Whereas
the city of Burbank, its own little municipality within the

(28:05):
county and surrounded by LA City, they just said twenty
five bucks to twenty five bucks for whatever business you
wanted is twenty five bucks. Now, I may be messing
up the numbers, but there is there is something to
be said about a municipality that gets some of the
money and then gets addicted to that money and they

(28:25):
can't do anything without it.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
The problem with this business tax, in particular here in
Los Angeles is the fact that it is not levied
on profits, but on gross receipts, So even when a
business suffers financial losses, the tax is on those gross receipts.
Even Eric gar said he wanted to get rid of
this when he was mayor. He wanted to eliminate this

(28:48):
more than a decade ago. He said, it puts the
economy at a competitive disadvantage, and it does.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
It did.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
That's why you're not having businesses in La One of
the many reasons because the city's not using the money
we provide in taxes to clean it up, to clean
up the drug users, the people that drop trou and
take a crap in front of city hall. They're not
using our tax dollars to make it a walkable city,
let alone a city where you want to do business.

(29:15):
I mean, they have so squandered the money that we
have given them for so many years and done nothing.
Look at all the holes in your road, look at
all the mess that is La City proper and for
once the business community goes no, we're going to cost
some of that back because you guys are ass hats.
And the city's like, well, now we can't pay for

(29:36):
police or fire. It's like, well, guess what, you're not
already playing for police and fire. Look at what they
put the fire department in the police department through in
recent years of budget cuts.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
You're not even doing that.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
What is it you're paying for other than all of
the fraud that y'all are going to prison for. All
you're good there for is to sit there and arrange
contracts for new apartment buildings from the apartment building companies
in China and then pad your own wallets with the
extra cash. Nobody is paying enough attention to realize is there.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
The unmarked envelope? You're all freaking crooks.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Get it, get it together, Get it together.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Oh, let me turn this up a little bit because
this is an important one. We were talking about losing
everybody from the eighties. Hi, Garyan Shannon, did I miss
something this week? I just heard Richard Simmons passed. What
is going I feel like that's an old one A
year ago. Yeah, July thirteenth.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
You know what, We don't play the alive or dead
guy game enough on this show.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
You ever play this? It's a fun game if you're
at dinner with friends. I hate it. I feel I'm
really bad about it.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
And we pride ourselves on at least having some amount
of ability to know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
He's like, throw out a name, you know, Burt Bacharak.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
The one that always got me was Abe the Goda,
Abe Goda who played Fish from.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Barney Miller way back in the day.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
He was one of those guys that stayed alive a
lot longer than he I shouldn't say he should have, but.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Well, it was kind of a bit where people always
thought he was dead.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
They always thought he was old because he was Yeah,
Bert backrack dead or alive alive.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Dead what two years ago? See, it's so much fun,
all right. It's it's more fun when you actually pick
someone who's dead. When you kill somebody, feel awful about it, awful,
like it matters.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
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the podcast.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Anywhere you find podcasts, just type in Gary and Shan,
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Speaker 2 (31:38):
Of that good stuff.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Gary Bit, Gary and Shannon will continue right after this.
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