May 15, 2025 • 29 mins
SCOTUS: Birthright Citizenship. No Putin, No Turkey Talks. Diddy Trial Updates. Mother bought son ammo, tactical gear as he planned potential attack.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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on the iHeartRadio app. Is that what your sweepers just
setting up the lights, the mobile light units, closing down lanes.
Nothing's really even going on yet, but let's close it
all down in rush hour like before nine am. I
(00:23):
want it which takes away lanes from you know, necessary travel.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I want to say it has something to do with unions, okay,
but I don't know that for certain like the union
would prefer that they work during the day than overnight,
despite the fact that everybody else in the world.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I love that for them after nine am.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Would rather they work at some point.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
And shutting down lanes in the eight o'clock hour seven
o'clock hour is especially when nothing's going on yet, is perplexing.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Well, welcome, you made it good. That's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
So the President is in Abu Dhabi today and in
the UAE. He's there continuing his trip throughout the Middle East.
We'll talk about what kind of stuff is going on
with him. He's not making a whole lot of headlines
today other than this headline that is the Supreme Court
today is talking about his executive order that would otherwise
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end birthright citizenship, and it is the first time that
the Supreme Court is hearing arguments on a Trump policy
since he took office. They could have a sweeping implications
for his ability, of course, to implement whatever agenda he
has been going through.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
We know the record number.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Of executive orders that he has been able to sign
in and then the very few pieces of legislation that
he's actually signed. I think it's somewhere like five or
six bills that he's actually signed into law in the
first one hundred and some odd days of his presidency,
which would be one of the fewest, if not the fewest,
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we've ever seen. So the question on the table for
the Supreme Court is birthright citizenship. Fourteenth Amendment basically guarantees
that anybody born within the United States or a territory
thereof is granted citizenship in the United States. No questions asked.
That's not where it ends. That's not where this question ends.
(02:19):
But University of Virginia Law School professor Amanda Frost says,
this is pretty clear that part of the question is pretty.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Clearcutship is so fundamental and this executive order would create
such chaos or to go into effect that I have
trouble believing that five justices would conclude that the executive
order is not just constitutional but also doesn't violet the statute.
I mean that it's such a clear cut case for
finding executive order to be illegal.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
But that is not what the Supreme Court weighs. What
kind of chaos would this cause? How much? And do
we want to deal with that? That's not something I'm
supposed to And then they don't. I don't believe they do.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
But the other question about this specific case is what
power does a single federal judge have? Can one federal
judge in one small district I think there's a few
six hundred I think is the number. I saw, six
hundred districts for these federal judges. Does one judge in
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a tiny little district like that have the power to
issue an injunction nationwide?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Loyal LA Law School professor Justin Levitt.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
The narrowwerk question for the court is, if one judge
decides that the government's doing something wrong, can it order
the government to stop for everybody? Or better put, what
are the conditions under which it can order the government
to stop for everybody.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
So the Solicitor General in this case, John Sower, complained
to the justices that there was was this cascade of
these injunctions, these nation wide injunctions against a bunch of
executive orders from the president, and he argued that that
created a host of practical problems and said, these orders
are a bipartisan problem, these injunctions that has now spanned
(04:03):
the last five presidential administrations.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
And he's right.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I mean, people on both sides of the political aisle
have complained about a single judge being able to issue
a national injunction on certain cases. But that argument of
it just causes chaos. To your point, that's not why
we do away with things. Generally, there is a process
by which we live by the rule of law. That's
(04:29):
one of the arguments against what the deportation programs that
the Trump administration has embarked upon right now is that
they're flooding the zone. Trump's oone argument is, okay, well,
if we try to give everybody their due process, we're
talking about millions of cases that they would have to
go through that the immigration system simply cannot handle. That
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is not the that's not the right argument. The idea
of chaos is something that we need to figure out
and deal with, and that doesn't necessarily meaning do away
with the rule of law.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Mean Girls continues on the world stage as President Trump
and Vladimir Putin are no shows. When it comes to
Vladimir's Lenski, I mean, they're just like, we don't want
to hang out with you. Putin's like, am I going
to hang out with you? Trump's like, why would he
go if I'm.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Not going to go?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
It's very Mean Girls. We'll get to all the latest
when we come back. Also, you're shot at one thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It struck me as the inviting somebody to a fake
party and then watching them show up.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Like middle school girls do.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Like in Mean Girls, when they invite her to the
party and they say it's a costume party and she
shows up as a bunny.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Hate costume parties, You love costume parties.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
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of this month in the Walmart stores, and then certainly
much more in the month of June.
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Speaker 3 (07:03):
President Trump says he's.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Not surprised that Putin was a no show for peace
talks with Ukraine.
Speaker 8 (07:10):
Nothing's going to happen until Putin and I get together, Okay.
And obviously he wasn't to go. He was going to go,
but he thought I was going to go. He wasn't
going if I wasn't there. I actually said, why would
he go if I'm not going because I wasn't going
to go.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
I wasn't planning to.
Speaker 8 (07:24):
I would go, but I wasn't planning to go. And
I said, I don't think he's going to go if
I don't go.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
And that's turned out to be right. Nobody.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
It's such a female middle school, high school response. It
just is if you are a female and you went
to high school, you know exactly what that is. Same thing,
same thing of a party you're going to go to.
If your best friend isn't going to a party, you're
not going to go to that party. And if you know,
maybe a friend who wants to be in the friend group,
they're going to the party, but your friend's not going,
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you're not gonna go to the party to see your
friend that you're not really that close with. I mean,
it's all very reminiscent of the hellish time that is
in a girl's life.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
And then whoever does go to that party's at dork.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Do guys do that or is that a female thing
that is very much a female Yeah. Trump did leave
open the possibility of going to Turkey tomorrow. He acknowledged
he does have a full schedule on his next stop
in the Middle East UAA.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
But let's be clear, the President wants to go to Turkey.
He's going to go to Turkey because the full schedule
will be damned. He can do whatever the hell he wants. Yeah,
and the Secret Service will make it happen.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
President Zelenski of Ukraine did show up in Turkey today
to underscore his commitment to end even war and then
just stood on the tarmac and basically went where is everybody?
He is going to be meeting with the president of
Turkey rests up Erdowan in Ankora. But he is not
expected to meet with the group that is there from Russia.
(08:51):
And again, this is a bunch of Triple A guys
that show up from Moscow, not the major league guy
that he wants to talk.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
To to play devil's advocate is Zelenski on the same
level that President Trump and Vladimir Putin are.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
No, he is not. He is not a world power.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
He's just not. And they're showing him that. They're trying
to say, Hey, you've gotten too big for your breitches.
Pipe down. We'll meet you with you on our schedule.
We're going to give you what we give you, we will.
And that's just that. Putin included. If I want to
see land to you, I will do that, but there's
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no way in hell you're going to force me.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Trump saying the same thing.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
If I want to give you aid, I'll do so,
but there's no way you're going to have a say
in it.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
You don't have that power.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
It would be nice if Trump got back to his
frustration with Vladimir Putin. Remember after there was some talk
of a deal, Vladimir Putin launched a handful of missiles
and drones at Ukraine. And whatever frustration comes out of
a truth social post of Vladimir. Stop the weakness that
that was. But they need each other.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
And if you know this about popular girls sticking together,
yes they do have problems.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
With each other from time to time.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
They're not always in line with each other, but they
need each other because together they're more powerful.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, but but to me, that's the only crack that's
gonna If there is a crack between those two, that's
the thing that is gonna facilitate some sort of piece.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
The only crack. Do you think Trump cares about attacks
on Ukraine?
Speaker 4 (10:34):
He does not. The only thing that will well.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It makes him look bad, It makes him look like
he can't control Vladimir Putin right, and.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
He can't cannot.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
So so they both have to realize that they can't
control each other. You got two type a's here, two
alpha dogs that realize that they need to exist together.
And the only way they can do that because neither
one is backing down. It's kind of like China and
Us when it comes to Trey talks. No one's backing
down from this. No one's going to be the patsy here.
(11:05):
Like you have to just realize you're up against another
alpha and then you just crap on people together because
that's all that's left.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
And that's exactly what's left. Was Zelenski.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Now there are some other talks that are going on
that are lower level talks. I mentioned the Triple A
team that's there from Moscow. We kind of have our
own Triple A team. We have Secretary of State Marco
Rubio who is in town, Senator Lindsay Graham, the Foreign
ministers of France, Germany and Poland are there.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Has Marco Rubio located his balls?
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Do we know?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I haven't seen still he's actually.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
We have like a find my balls alert on our phone.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
He's the one cabinet member that has gotten particularly staunch
support from from both sides of the aisle and the
work that he's been doing, at least in the early
days of the of the this administration. He is doing
the dirty work, it seems of President Trump. But Middle
East and Russian Envoy Steve Witcoff, his Special Envoy for
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Ukraine Keith Kellogg are all expected there. So I mean,
we're getting a good International League versus Pacific Coast League
matchup between those those Triple A players.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
But we want to see the big ones.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
We want to see Putin and Trump and Zelenski there
in Turkey making some.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Hay Didty's former girlfriend Cassie Ventura back on the witness
stand today. A lot of the media backing off the
details because yes, we've done the same thing. There's things
where we're like, we're not going to get into that,
but we knew this testimony was coming on cross that
His defense has been that this is all consensual, and
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the defense is bringing up text messages that kind of
say just that. One of the latest ones is that
she expressed to Diddy that she was excited to participate
in freak offs. Now with that text message where she
says I'm down, also comes with the context that she
was twenty one at the time. This was a relationship
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where the power was completely not balanced, and you're going
to probably want to go along with whatever the guy
who has the power wants to go along with.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, And I think the prosecution has done a good
job of describing and characterizing that fear that she had
of him, and that they'll do so again when they
have a chance to redirect, when they come back and
ask her again.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
But again the defense is on the stane. We'll talk
about some of the questions they've been asking her.
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so great in the dress.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Oh, thank you, you do. It's very nice you do.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I mean your calves are a little large, but.
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Listen to you ankle lady. Oh thanks, Serry.
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Speaker 2 (14:38):
I was going to use the word sturdy, but strong
was probably the more complimentary way to put it.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
The Sean Diddycomb's federal sex crimes trial back underway in
New York City. Former girlfriend remains on the stand. This morning,
the jury was shown emails between Puffy and Cassie Ventura.
He's accused, of course, of forcing victims to take part
in these drug and sex field parties over two decades.
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Faces life in prison for sex trafficking and other charges.
His defense is, no crimes were committed and the accusers
are out for money. I'm just going to park the
car there for a second and walk over to the
other side of the street where Smokey Robinson, by the way,
was accused of stuff a couple of weeks ago by housekeepers.
You would have thought with the career that Smokey Robinson
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had if that was the case, if he was that guy,
and I again I'm not calling him a saint, I
don't know him, but if he was that guy, there
would have been more women that have come out since
those allegations surfaced.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
If he was that.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Guy that didn't start when he turned eighty, that didn't
start when he turned seventy five, or however far those
accusations go back. It's not that long, but there would
be more women that have come forward since those initial
women filed.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
You can use the context of Bill Cosby. Kind of
right about that, because that was a long time when
the words, when the allegations finally came out about Bill Cosby,
there were a lot of people who came out and
suggested that he was a predator in a way that
we had never expected.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Right, but we haven't seen that with Smokey.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
All right, leave that car over there, go back to
the other side of the street. Now we knew this
was going to come, right. We knew that they were
going to go after Cassie and her character after she
laid out Ditty for the prosecution right in the last
couple of days Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, that today would be
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the day when they tried to impugne her character.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Is that the right way to say that?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Great? Okay? Perfect?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
She did via text message evidence expressed to Ditty that
she was excited to participate in freak offs.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
This is a We mentioned this that this is going
to be a touchy.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
The defense has an interesting.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Line here because you're talking to a young mother who
is eight and a half months pregnant, she's got two
little kids, her husband's in the gallery, and the defense
attorney in this case, Anna estev Esteval, who is on
the Diddy team started questioning Cassie in what a Hollywood
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reporter called a very gentle tone of voice. Notable because
a lot of times on cross examination, the first thing
you do is you go in, You agitate the witness,
you unsettle them, you cause them discomfort.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
But you can't do.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
That with a woman who's eight and a half months pregnant.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Right, so she has to basically, she being the defense attorney,
has to come in and say, basically, oh, you're mistaken,
kind of like you're doing. We understand that you're upset,
but you're upset for the wrong reasons. And she said,
you and Sean Combs were in love for eleven years.
You loved him and believed him that he loved you
as well, and then said that love explains why it
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hurts so bad when he lied and when he cheated
on you. And Cassie said yes to both of those.
And the text messages you mentioned. One of them was
a text message from Cassi Ventura two Sean Combs in
April of twenty ten, quote, going to sleep now so
it can be tomorrow faster and you can and you
can be home. Love you, and he replied, love my baby.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
There was a text message in August of two thousand
and nine that read this, I'm always ready to freak off.
It can be whenever. Now that was two thousand and nine.
It seems like the freak offs evolved, shall we say,
to twenty seventeen, when the most gruesome of the testimony
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is that we heard earlier in the week is from
they claim everything was consensual, and that's what they're trying
to convey by these text messages being read in court.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yeah, and you said this yesterday or the day before.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Maybe there's a hard that's a hard bar to get
over for the defense to be able to claim that
a woman wants that. Yeah and yeah, you could point
to these these text messages as suggesting that it's either
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one of two things. Either she was into it, or
two she was very fearful of this guy because, as
you mentioned, the power dynamic was so wildly in his favor,
and she had this burgeoning career that if she crossed him,
she felt like at the snap of his fingers she
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would be destroyed.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
And he was.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Holding over her head these videos where he claimed that
he would make her look like a slut. If those
videos were ever made, public.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Right, here's the issue. I guess that they're trying.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
To to raise the defenses. She did testify earlier in
the week that her first freak off was in the
first year of their relationship, when she was twenty two,
that it made her feel dirty and confused.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
That's what she testified.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
But now it's showing that subsequently she was saying I'm
down for the freakoff, I'm ready whenever. But again you
have to put into account, like you mentioned, the imbalance
of power there, that she was probably scared. Who knows
why she wrote I'm down. Maybe she thought she had
to write that.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
You don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
And she's one of expected three women to testify about
these things, about the stuff that went on in these
freak offs, and obviously she is the key witness because
of her relationship with Sean Combs for ten years.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
It's not just that there's a lot of intimate text
messages that we will not get into. If you want
to read about it, read about it, but really probably
very hard to listen to.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
What if you're her husband. That's the thing that I've
been kind of stuck on. I have mentioned earlier that
the judge had to allow the husband to watch the
testimony because of the possibility that he has called as
a witness by the defense. Later on, Cassie says that
Shawn Combs raped her in twenty eighteen while she was
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dating the guy who was now her husband, who was
now the father of her children, and he allegedly sent
a text message to Sean Combs threatening to beat the
f out of him for what happened.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
To cass surprise, it was just a text message. How
do you get close to a guy like that?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
That's a good point, It's a very good point. Excellent.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
They are right now in a lunch break back in
New York.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
They say the testimonies can resume, probably close to the
top of the hour.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
So as these details come in, we'll.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Definitely bring to all right, And a mother has been
arrested in Texas this week for allegedly buying weapons for
her son's planned attack at a middle school for his
mass violence plan.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
We'll talk about what we know when we come back.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
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Speaker 1 (22:22):
Supreme Court hearing arguments connected with Trump's order to end
birthright citizenship case isn't directly about constitutionality of the order,
but the scope with which lower courts can issue nationwide injunctions.
Trump's order to end birthright citizenship, generally accepted as the
law underneath the fourteenth Amendment, drew immediate lawsuits.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Three lower courts have.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Issued injunctions, So now it's up to the Supreme Court
to decide if the lower courts really have any kind
of authority like that.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
President Trump did say he was not surprised that President
Vladimir Putin of Russia was a no show for the
peace talks with Ukraine in Turkey. He told reporters, I
didn't think it was possible for Putin to go if
I'm not there. Secretary of State Marco Rubio is in
Turkey for meetings with NATO counterparts. The Special Envoy, Trump's
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Special Envoy, Steve Whitcoff, is also in Istanbul tomorrow for
what they say will still possibly be some talks on peace.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Ashley Pardo is thirty three. She was arrested this week
in San Antonio. They say she bought Ammo and tactical
gear to assist in her son's attack on his middle school.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
This woman, it's not a surprise what happened to this
kid based on this woman's own discussions with police.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Well it's not just this woman.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I have questions about the school as well.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Back in January, the boy was first contacted in reference
to drawings of the local school that he attended. The
drawings included a map of the school, something called a
suicide route that he had written, and then the name
of the school written beside a rifle. School officials at
the time talked to him and he admitted that he
had a fascination with past mass shooters.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
So that's a problem right away, right away.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Red flag in April, So January, February, March, April, the
sun is now found researching the two nineteen christ Church
mosque shooting in New Zealand, that one killed fifty one people.
He's researching that on a school issued computer. He was
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suspended later that day, and that day he attempted suicide
with a straight razor, caused a damage that required over
one hundred stitches. And so he goes he's sent to
an ultra hospital. Right, no, no, no, no, the alternative school.
Oh until May. His mom, sorry, his grandma. He'd been
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staying with grandma every once in a while. Tag to
police after she found her grandson hitting a live bullet
with a hammer, much like you might see Wiley Coyote
doing in a cartoon. He told his grandma that he
received the bullet from Mom and that she had guns
and AMMO at her house. Grandma told police that Mom
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had been taking the boy to a local surplus store
and bought him AMMO, a tactical vest, black helmet, various
army clothing, and on Monday, right before Mom was finally arrested,
the boy told grandma he was going to be famous.
Mom picks him up takes them to school. Grandma goes
into the kid's bedroom and she finds all of these
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magazines loaded with live AMMO, pistol magazines loaded with live
AMMO as well.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Well, don't forget the improvised explosive device. I won't.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
It was a firework mortar style wrapped in duct tape.
It had the words on it for Brenton Terrant, that
was the shooter in that twenty nineteen Mosk attack.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Along with the weapons in the kid's room, grandma found
a handwritten note that referred to other mass shootings. Mass
shooting suspects had a list of the numbers of victims
in each of the incidents.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Now, Mom's obviously a monster and an own mental health
episode herself. But here's what I don't understand about why
the school didn't intervene. Good thing, grandma called police. But
why didn't the school intervene? Because Mom had been made
aware of the threats by her son and at one
point expressed to the school her support of his violent
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expressions and drawings. She said she did not feel concerned.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
For his behavior.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Now, what did this kid have to do to get
mom to buy the equipment at the store, the gear
and ammunition just baby sit his younger siblings.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Now, if your kids drawing pictures of suicide routes and
rifles leading from school, and you know, the school brings
that attention to the mom, and the mom it's like, yeah, no,
I get it, I get it.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I'm not worried about it. And have you ever seen
this place? Right exactly? That's a problem.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
You know, it's one thing at the school's overreacting and
the parents are brought in and you're like, I understand
why you would think this.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
I know my kid, I've got this. Don't worry.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
This won't ever happen. Again what have you. But that
wasn't her reaction. That was like, yeah, I get it.
This place sucks.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Mom was released on bond.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Also very troubling.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I don't know how necessarily it works. I know, very thankfully.
I don't know the bail and the bond system the
way it's supposed. She was released on a bond of
seventy five thousand dollars. Supposed to be in court for
a pre indictment hearing on July seventeenth.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
This is free until mid July.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I mean, she does have other kids, but grandma is
obviously capable of caring for at least some of them,
at least some of the time.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
So that story out of Texas, this is just insane.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
The La City Council's laying off a bunch of city workers,
but it says to local businesses, you got to pay
your people more.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
How does that work? Because that's what the.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
La City Council is telling businesses that work in tourism.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
You've got to pay your people more. You're gonna have
to pay your people more.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
That's what happens when you legislate with feelings in that line.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
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Nothing's really even going on yet, but let's close it
all down in rush hour like before nine am. I
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want it which takes away lanes from you know, necessary travel.
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but I don't know that for certain like the union
would prefer that they work during the day than overnight,
despite the fact that everybody else in the world.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I love that for them after nine am.
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Would rather they work at some point.
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o'clock hour is especially when nothing's going on yet, is perplexing.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Well, welcome, you made it good. That's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
So the President is in Abu Dhabi today and in
the UAE. He's there continuing his trip throughout the Middle East.
We'll talk about what kind of stuff is going on
with him. He's not making a whole lot of headlines
today other than this headline that is the Supreme Court
today is talking about his executive order that would otherwise
(01:18):
end birthright citizenship, and it is the first time that
the Supreme Court is hearing arguments on a Trump policy
since he took office. They could have a sweeping implications
for his ability, of course, to implement whatever agenda he
has been going through.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
We know the record number.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Of executive orders that he has been able to sign
in and then the very few pieces of legislation that
he's actually signed. I think it's somewhere like five or
six bills that he's actually signed into law in the
first one hundred and some odd days of his presidency,
which would be one of the fewest, if not the fewest,
(01:57):
we've ever seen. So the question on the table for
the Supreme Court is birthright citizenship. Fourteenth Amendment basically guarantees
that anybody born within the United States or a territory
thereof is granted citizenship in the United States. No questions asked.
That's not where it ends. That's not where this question ends.
(02:19):
But University of Virginia Law School professor Amanda Frost says,
this is pretty clear that part of the question is pretty.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Clearcutship is so fundamental and this executive order would create
such chaos or to go into effect that I have
trouble believing that five justices would conclude that the executive
order is not just constitutional but also doesn't violet the statute.
I mean that it's such a clear cut case for
finding executive order to be illegal.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
But that is not what the Supreme Court weighs. What
kind of chaos would this cause? How much? And do
we want to deal with that? That's not something I'm
supposed to And then they don't. I don't believe they do.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
But the other question about this specific case is what
power does a single federal judge have? Can one federal
judge in one small district I think there's a few
six hundred I think is the number. I saw, six
hundred districts for these federal judges. Does one judge in
(03:16):
a tiny little district like that have the power to
issue an injunction nationwide?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Loyal LA Law School professor Justin Levitt.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
The narrowwerk question for the court is, if one judge
decides that the government's doing something wrong, can it order
the government to stop for everybody? Or better put, what
are the conditions under which it can order the government
to stop for everybody.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
So the Solicitor General in this case, John Sower, complained
to the justices that there was was this cascade of
these injunctions, these nation wide injunctions against a bunch of
executive orders from the president, and he argued that that
created a host of practical problems and said, these orders
are a bipartisan problem, these injunctions that has now spanned
(04:03):
the last five presidential administrations.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
And he's right.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I mean, people on both sides of the political aisle
have complained about a single judge being able to issue
a national injunction on certain cases. But that argument of
it just causes chaos. To your point, that's not why
we do away with things. Generally, there is a process
by which we live by the rule of law. That's
(04:29):
one of the arguments against what the deportation programs that
the Trump administration has embarked upon right now is that
they're flooding the zone. Trump's oone argument is, okay, well,
if we try to give everybody their due process, we're
talking about millions of cases that they would have to
go through that the immigration system simply cannot handle. That
(04:52):
is not the that's not the right argument. The idea
of chaos is something that we need to figure out
and deal with, and that doesn't necessarily meaning do away
with the rule of law.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Mean Girls continues on the world stage as President Trump
and Vladimir Putin are no shows. When it comes to
Vladimir's Lenski, I mean, they're just like, we don't want
to hang out with you. Putin's like, am I going
to hang out with you? Trump's like, why would he
go if I'm.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Not going to go?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
It's very Mean Girls. We'll get to all the latest
when we come back. Also, you're shot at one thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It struck me as the inviting somebody to a fake
party and then watching them show up.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Like middle school girls do.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Like in Mean Girls, when they invite her to the
party and they say it's a costume party and she
shows up as a bunny.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Hate costume parties, You love costume parties.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Garyan Shannon will continue.
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Walmart's chief financial officer says the terriffts are still too high,
even though they went down to thirty percent on goods
imported from China, he said, we are wired for everyday
low prices. He's talking about Walmart, but the magnitude of
these increases is more than any retailer can absorb. He says,
he's concerned that the consumer is going to start seeing
higher prices. You'll see that likely towards the tail end
(06:14):
of this month in the Walmart stores, and then certainly
much more in the month of June.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
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Vladimir Zelenski like he is the step child on the
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Speaker 3 (07:03):
President Trump says he's.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Not surprised that Putin was a no show for peace
talks with Ukraine.
Speaker 8 (07:10):
Nothing's going to happen until Putin and I get together, Okay.
And obviously he wasn't to go. He was going to go,
but he thought I was going to go. He wasn't
going if I wasn't there. I actually said, why would
he go if I'm not going because I wasn't going
to go.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
I wasn't planning to.
Speaker 8 (07:24):
I would go, but I wasn't planning to go. And
I said, I don't think he's going to go if
I don't go.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
And that's turned out to be right. Nobody.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
It's such a female middle school, high school response. It
just is if you are a female and you went
to high school, you know exactly what that is. Same thing,
same thing of a party you're going to go to.
If your best friend isn't going to a party, you're
not going to go to that party. And if you know,
maybe a friend who wants to be in the friend group,
they're going to the party, but your friend's not going,
(07:52):
you're not gonna go to the party to see your
friend that you're not really that close with. I mean,
it's all very reminiscent of the hellish time that is
in a girl's life.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
And then whoever does go to that party's at dork.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Do guys do that or is that a female thing
that is very much a female Yeah. Trump did leave
open the possibility of going to Turkey tomorrow. He acknowledged
he does have a full schedule on his next stop
in the Middle East UAA.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
But let's be clear, the President wants to go to Turkey.
He's going to go to Turkey because the full schedule
will be damned. He can do whatever the hell he wants. Yeah,
and the Secret Service will make it happen.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
President Zelenski of Ukraine did show up in Turkey today
to underscore his commitment to end even war and then
just stood on the tarmac and basically went where is everybody?
He is going to be meeting with the president of
Turkey rests up Erdowan in Ankora. But he is not
expected to meet with the group that is there from Russia.
(08:51):
And again, this is a bunch of Triple A guys
that show up from Moscow, not the major league guy
that he wants to talk.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
To to play devil's advocate is Zelenski on the same
level that President Trump and Vladimir Putin are.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
No, he is not. He is not a world power.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
He's just not. And they're showing him that. They're trying
to say, Hey, you've gotten too big for your breitches.
Pipe down. We'll meet you with you on our schedule.
We're going to give you what we give you, we will.
And that's just that. Putin included. If I want to
see land to you, I will do that, but there's
(09:31):
no way in hell you're going to force me.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Trump saying the same thing.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
If I want to give you aid, I'll do so,
but there's no way you're going to have a say
in it.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
You don't have that power.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
It would be nice if Trump got back to his
frustration with Vladimir Putin. Remember after there was some talk
of a deal, Vladimir Putin launched a handful of missiles
and drones at Ukraine. And whatever frustration comes out of
a truth social post of Vladimir. Stop the weakness that
that was. But they need each other.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
And if you know this about popular girls sticking together,
yes they do have problems.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
With each other from time to time.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
They're not always in line with each other, but they
need each other because together they're more powerful.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, but but to me, that's the only crack that's
gonna If there is a crack between those two, that's
the thing that is gonna facilitate some sort of piece.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
The only crack. Do you think Trump cares about attacks
on Ukraine?
Speaker 4 (10:34):
He does not. The only thing that will well.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It makes him look bad, It makes him look like
he can't control Vladimir Putin right, and.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
He can't cannot.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
So so they both have to realize that they can't
control each other. You got two type a's here, two
alpha dogs that realize that they need to exist together.
And the only way they can do that because neither
one is backing down. It's kind of like China and
Us when it comes to Trey talks. No one's backing
down from this. No one's going to be the patsy here.
(11:05):
Like you have to just realize you're up against another
alpha and then you just crap on people together because
that's all that's left.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
And that's exactly what's left. Was Zelenski.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Now there are some other talks that are going on
that are lower level talks. I mentioned the Triple A
team that's there from Moscow. We kind of have our
own Triple A team. We have Secretary of State Marco
Rubio who is in town, Senator Lindsay Graham, the Foreign
ministers of France, Germany and Poland are there.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Has Marco Rubio located his balls?
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Do we know?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I haven't seen still he's actually.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
We have like a find my balls alert on our phone.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
He's the one cabinet member that has gotten particularly staunch
support from from both sides of the aisle and the
work that he's been doing, at least in the early
days of the of the this administration. He is doing
the dirty work, it seems of President Trump. But Middle
East and Russian Envoy Steve Witcoff, his Special Envoy for
(12:07):
Ukraine Keith Kellogg are all expected there. So I mean,
we're getting a good International League versus Pacific Coast League
matchup between those those Triple A players.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
But we want to see the big ones.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
We want to see Putin and Trump and Zelenski there
in Turkey making some.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Hay Didty's former girlfriend Cassie Ventura back on the witness
stand today. A lot of the media backing off the
details because yes, we've done the same thing. There's things
where we're like, we're not going to get into that,
but we knew this testimony was coming on cross that
His defense has been that this is all consensual, and
(12:47):
the defense is bringing up text messages that kind of
say just that. One of the latest ones is that
she expressed to Diddy that she was excited to participate
in freak offs. Now with that text message where she
says I'm down, also comes with the context that she
was twenty one at the time. This was a relationship
(13:07):
where the power was completely not balanced, and you're going
to probably want to go along with whatever the guy
who has the power wants to go along with.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, And I think the prosecution has done a good
job of describing and characterizing that fear that she had
of him, and that they'll do so again when they
have a chance to redirect, when they come back and
ask her again.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
But again the defense is on the stane. We'll talk
about some of the questions they've been asking her.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
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I don't know.
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Speaker 8 (14:19):
Gary, you can't hate cost two parties because you look
so great in the dress.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Oh, thank you, you do. It's very nice you do.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I mean your calves are a little large, but.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Listen to you ankle lady. Oh thanks, Serry.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Did you just tell me I have strong ankles? I
appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I was going to use the word sturdy, but strong
was probably the more complimentary way to put it.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
The Sean Diddycomb's federal sex crimes trial back underway in
New York City. Former girlfriend remains on the stand. This morning,
the jury was shown emails between Puffy and Cassie Ventura.
He's accused, of course, of forcing victims to take part
in these drug and sex field parties over two decades.
(15:05):
Faces life in prison for sex trafficking and other charges.
His defense is, no crimes were committed and the accusers
are out for money. I'm just going to park the
car there for a second and walk over to the
other side of the street where Smokey Robinson, by the way,
was accused of stuff a couple of weeks ago by housekeepers.
You would have thought with the career that Smokey Robinson
(15:27):
had if that was the case, if he was that guy,
and I again I'm not calling him a saint, I
don't know him, but if he was that guy, there
would have been more women that have come out since
those allegations surfaced.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
If he was that.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Guy that didn't start when he turned eighty, that didn't
start when he turned seventy five, or however far those
accusations go back. It's not that long, but there would
be more women that have come forward since those initial
women filed.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
You can use the context of Bill Cosby. Kind of
right about that, because that was a long time when
the words, when the allegations finally came out about Bill Cosby,
there were a lot of people who came out and
suggested that he was a predator in a way that
we had never expected.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Right, but we haven't seen that with Smokey.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
All right, leave that car over there, go back to
the other side of the street. Now we knew this
was going to come, right. We knew that they were
going to go after Cassie and her character after she
laid out Ditty for the prosecution right in the last
couple of days Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, that today would be
(16:36):
the day when they tried to impugne her character.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Is that the right way to say that?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Great? Okay? Perfect?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
She did via text message evidence expressed to Ditty that
she was excited to participate in freak offs.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
This is a We mentioned this that this is going
to be a touchy.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
The defense has an interesting.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Line here because you're talking to a young mother who
is eight and a half months pregnant, she's got two
little kids, her husband's in the gallery, and the defense
attorney in this case, Anna estev Esteval, who is on
the Diddy team started questioning Cassie in what a Hollywood
(17:25):
reporter called a very gentle tone of voice. Notable because
a lot of times on cross examination, the first thing
you do is you go in, You agitate the witness,
you unsettle them, you cause them discomfort.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
But you can't do.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
That with a woman who's eight and a half months pregnant.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Right, so she has to basically, she being the defense attorney,
has to come in and say, basically, oh, you're mistaken,
kind of like you're doing. We understand that you're upset,
but you're upset for the wrong reasons. And she said,
you and Sean Combs were in love for eleven years.
You loved him and believed him that he loved you
as well, and then said that love explains why it
(18:05):
hurts so bad when he lied and when he cheated
on you. And Cassie said yes to both of those.
And the text messages you mentioned. One of them was
a text message from Cassi Ventura two Sean Combs in
April of twenty ten, quote, going to sleep now so
it can be tomorrow faster and you can and you
can be home. Love you, and he replied, love my baby.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
There was a text message in August of two thousand
and nine that read this, I'm always ready to freak off.
It can be whenever. Now that was two thousand and nine.
It seems like the freak offs evolved, shall we say,
to twenty seventeen, when the most gruesome of the testimony
(18:50):
is that we heard earlier in the week is from
they claim everything was consensual, and that's what they're trying
to convey by these text messages being read in court.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yeah, and you said this yesterday or the day before.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Maybe there's a hard that's a hard bar to get
over for the defense to be able to claim that
a woman wants that. Yeah and yeah, you could point
to these these text messages as suggesting that it's either
(19:23):
one of two things. Either she was into it, or
two she was very fearful of this guy because, as
you mentioned, the power dynamic was so wildly in his favor,
and she had this burgeoning career that if she crossed him,
she felt like at the snap of his fingers she
(19:44):
would be destroyed.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
And he was.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Holding over her head these videos where he claimed that
he would make her look like a slut. If those
videos were ever made, public.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Right, here's the issue. I guess that they're trying.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
To to raise the defenses. She did testify earlier in
the week that her first freak off was in the
first year of their relationship, when she was twenty two,
that it made her feel dirty and confused.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
That's what she testified.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
But now it's showing that subsequently she was saying I'm
down for the freakoff, I'm ready whenever. But again you
have to put into account, like you mentioned, the imbalance
of power there, that she was probably scared. Who knows
why she wrote I'm down. Maybe she thought she had
to write that.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
You don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
And she's one of expected three women to testify about
these things, about the stuff that went on in these
freak offs, and obviously she is the key witness because
of her relationship with Sean Combs for ten years.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
It's not just that there's a lot of intimate text
messages that we will not get into. If you want
to read about it, read about it, but really probably
very hard to listen to.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
What if you're her husband. That's the thing that I've
been kind of stuck on. I have mentioned earlier that
the judge had to allow the husband to watch the
testimony because of the possibility that he has called as
a witness by the defense. Later on, Cassie says that
Shawn Combs raped her in twenty eighteen while she was
(21:27):
dating the guy who was now her husband, who was
now the father of her children, and he allegedly sent
a text message to Sean Combs threatening to beat the
f out of him for what happened.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
To cass surprise, it was just a text message. How
do you get close to a guy like that?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
That's a good point, It's a very good point. Excellent.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
They are right now in a lunch break back in
New York.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
They say the testimonies can resume, probably close to the
top of the hour.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
So as these details come in, we'll.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Definitely bring to all right, And a mother has been
arrested in Texas this week for allegedly buying weapons for
her son's planned attack at a middle school for his
mass violence plan.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
We'll talk about what we know when we come back.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 1 (22:22):
Supreme Court hearing arguments connected with Trump's order to end
birthright citizenship case isn't directly about constitutionality of the order,
but the scope with which lower courts can issue nationwide injunctions.
Trump's order to end birthright citizenship, generally accepted as the
law underneath the fourteenth Amendment, drew immediate lawsuits.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Three lower courts have.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Issued injunctions, So now it's up to the Supreme Court
to decide if the lower courts really have any kind
of authority like that.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
President Trump did say he was not surprised that President
Vladimir Putin of Russia was a no show for the
peace talks with Ukraine in Turkey. He told reporters, I
didn't think it was possible for Putin to go if
I'm not there. Secretary of State Marco Rubio is in
Turkey for meetings with NATO counterparts. The Special Envoy, Trump's
(23:12):
Special Envoy, Steve Whitcoff, is also in Istanbul tomorrow for
what they say will still possibly be some talks on peace.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Ashley Pardo is thirty three. She was arrested this week
in San Antonio. They say she bought Ammo and tactical
gear to assist in her son's attack on his middle school.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
This woman, it's not a surprise what happened to this
kid based on this woman's own discussions with police.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Well it's not just this woman.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I have questions about the school as well.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Back in January, the boy was first contacted in reference
to drawings of the local school that he attended. The
drawings included a map of the school, something called a
suicide route that he had written, and then the name
of the school written beside a rifle. School officials at
the time talked to him and he admitted that he
had a fascination with past mass shooters.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
So that's a problem right away, right away.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Red flag in April, So January, February, March, April, the
sun is now found researching the two nineteen christ Church
mosque shooting in New Zealand, that one killed fifty one people.
He's researching that on a school issued computer. He was
(24:34):
suspended later that day, and that day he attempted suicide
with a straight razor, caused a damage that required over
one hundred stitches. And so he goes he's sent to
an ultra hospital. Right, no, no, no, no, the alternative school.
Oh until May. His mom, sorry, his grandma. He'd been
(24:57):
staying with grandma every once in a while. Tag to
police after she found her grandson hitting a live bullet
with a hammer, much like you might see Wiley Coyote
doing in a cartoon. He told his grandma that he
received the bullet from Mom and that she had guns
and AMMO at her house. Grandma told police that Mom
(25:19):
had been taking the boy to a local surplus store
and bought him AMMO, a tactical vest, black helmet, various
army clothing, and on Monday, right before Mom was finally arrested,
the boy told grandma he was going to be famous.
Mom picks him up takes them to school. Grandma goes
into the kid's bedroom and she finds all of these
(25:40):
magazines loaded with live AMMO, pistol magazines loaded with live
AMMO as well.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Well, don't forget the improvised explosive device. I won't.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
It was a firework mortar style wrapped in duct tape.
It had the words on it for Brenton Terrant, that
was the shooter in that twenty nineteen Mosk attack.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Along with the weapons in the kid's room, grandma found
a handwritten note that referred to other mass shootings. Mass
shooting suspects had a list of the numbers of victims
in each of the incidents.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Now, Mom's obviously a monster and an own mental health
episode herself. But here's what I don't understand about why
the school didn't intervene. Good thing, grandma called police. But
why didn't the school intervene? Because Mom had been made
aware of the threats by her son and at one
point expressed to the school her support of his violent
(26:35):
expressions and drawings. She said she did not feel concerned.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
For his behavior.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Now, what did this kid have to do to get
mom to buy the equipment at the store, the gear
and ammunition just baby sit his younger siblings.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Now, if your kids drawing pictures of suicide routes and
rifles leading from school, and you know, the school brings
that attention to the mom, and the mom it's like, yeah, no,
I get it, I get it.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I'm not worried about it. And have you ever seen
this place? Right exactly? That's a problem.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
You know, it's one thing at the school's overreacting and
the parents are brought in and you're like, I understand
why you would think this.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
I know my kid, I've got this. Don't worry.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
This won't ever happen. Again what have you. But that
wasn't her reaction. That was like, yeah, I get it.
This place sucks.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Mom was released on bond.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Also very troubling.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I don't know how necessarily it works. I know, very thankfully.
I don't know the bail and the bond system the
way it's supposed. She was released on a bond of
seventy five thousand dollars. Supposed to be in court for
a pre indictment hearing on July seventeenth.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
This is free until mid July.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I mean, she does have other kids, but grandma is
obviously capable of caring for at least some of them,
at least some of the time.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
So that story out of Texas, this is just insane.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
The La City Council's laying off a bunch of city workers,
but it says to local businesses, you got to pay
your people more.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
How does that work? Because that's what the.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
La City Council is telling businesses that work in tourism.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
You've got to pay your people more. You're gonna have
to pay your people more.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
That's what happens when you legislate with feelings in that line.
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