December 9, 2025 ⢠33 mins
Gary & Shannon fire up #WhatsHappening with the day’s biggest headlines: President Trump kicks off his 2026 midterm blitz, Pepsi quietly purges fan-favorite products, and Coke continues to dominate the soda battlefield. Plus, the Colts make it official: Grandpa Phillip Rivers is back under center.
Then it’s #TerrorInTheSkies, where international flight attendants reveal the most bizarre and frequently asked questions they get mid-air… and Gary insists there’s a strict three-hour conversation limit before flight attendant detailed interactions become more necessary.
For #TrueCrimeTuesday, the NY Post’s wild exclusive takes center stage: a nepo-baby accused of killing his girlfriend and immediately calling Dad to lawyer up. The hour wraps with another jaw-dropper, the kayaker who faked his own death to escape his marriage, only to resurface, get caught, and now… walk free.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
A big deal last night, of course, was that the
Chargers beat the Eagles twenty two to nineteen in overtime,
getting them a step closer to the playoffs. The big
deal weather wise is there's a huge fog bank up
in northern California, basically from Bakersfield north all the way
towards red Bluff and Redding. About a four hundred mile
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bank of fog in the central Valley has kept temperatures
on the low end for several weeks, well below average.
In fact, the high temperature in Sacramento today is only
forecast to be forty five degrees.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
True Crime Tuesday is right around the corner. Today we'll
tell you the story of a wealthy student from Chicago
who stabbed his girlfriend to death and called.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Daddy as she lay dying to get a lawyer. Daddy,
something is happy and Daddy, you won't believe what she
made me do. Daddy, it's what else is going on.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Time for Time, our trending story is brought to you
by tradean wealth a future of retirement planning and wealth management.
Is here La Trajan Wealth Call today three one oh
two nine sixty. Big deal tonight is that President Trump
sets travel to Pennsylvania, is delivering a speech on the economy,
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which is kind of antithetical to what he said in
this interview with Politico yesterday when he described the economy
as being a plus plus plus plus plus plus.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I want to talk about the economy, sir, here at home,
and I wonder.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
What grade you would give A plus A plus plus
plus plus plus plus plus plus.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
So far, he hasn't made a whole lot of trips
around the country, around the United States to teut his agenda,
and in fact, Susie Wiles, white House Chief of State,
had suggested that he needs to get back out on
that campaign trail, finger quotes and do these these types
of rallies that were so popular during his presidential run.
(02:12):
So may this may look like a campaign rally when
we see it tonight in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
All right, don't panic, but Pepsi Co Is about to
yank hundreds of drinks and chips off store shelves. Pepsi
Co Is behind Pepsi Gatorade, Cheetos, lays, Dorito's tostitos Quaker oats.
It says it's going to eliminate nearly twenty percent of
its entire product lineup by early next year. It's one
of the biggest grocery shakeups in the grocery aisle in years.
(02:43):
They say, favorite flavors, limited editions, long standing staples could
quietly disappear.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Why because of that.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Bad, scary grocery store economy we're living in. They say
the purge comes as shoppers increasingly price sensitive, that many
are skipping branded snacks altogether, getting those generic you know,
and instead of the the ho hos are getting the
he highs. And I don't know, I made up a
generic brand for a Hostess Tree.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
That has oh no, he's.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Careful okay full, that has squeezed profits and it has
led to rounds as layoffs.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I heard it now, No, I heard it, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, So we don't.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Know, like we don't know exactly what it's going to be.
Like I'm I'm.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Already searching you, guys, I'm scamming this article looking for
the words nacho cheese, doritos, like I'm hearing you, I'm
seeing you.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Those are going. I just don't know what they're going
to act.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Speaking of the soda, the soda wars Coke is number
one and has been for a long time. Give me
numbers two, three, four of soda. Coca Cola is number one,
Doctor Pepper, yeah, number two, Mountain Dew, no.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Ginger, eu sprite, sprite, and then Pepsi is number Four's
fallen to number four? Yeah, well they haven't. They haven't.
What have they done? What can you tell me?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I mean pepsi you think about sure, that's uh, you know,
it's right up there with tab and diet. Pepsi is
like what our moms would drink. But like, pepsi hasn't
really had any brand visibility in the past fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
After Michael Jackson, I would say thirty years yeah, plus right,
You know, you do have to advertise your product. Coca
Cola advertises all the time.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Doctor Pepper just has a cult following and always will.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, what's in that stuff? My brother loves doctor Pepper.
What is it twenty three different ingredients or twenty that
right or whatever it is? Are you a doctor Pepper
guye too?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Oh, okay, very much so. I thought of all of
those to choose from. I don't think I've ever seen
you have it.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
If I had to choose between if I had to
choose between those two colas, between Pepsi and Coke, I
would choose a Pepsi. But you don't find them very
it's not it's not as common. Yeah, Coke has obviously
dominated the market. But if I was given a choice
of anything, I'm going to drink at Doctor Pepper.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It depends on what contracts a place gets. They get
the Coke contract, you know, that comes with the the
seven up coke seven up and the marks. I remember
the way it used to be. I don't know what
allegiance has changed. But if you get the Pepsi contract,
then you get the you know, the the sprite as
opposed to the seven app.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
And it's confusing because the new mister Pib is out.
Have you've seen the commercials for that. Mister Pip, which is,
like you can was a competitor to Doctor Pepper now
put Doctor Pepper owns it, but only in certain markets.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
It's a weird. It's a very we I don't know
if I've ever had a doctor Pib.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Right, Indianapolis colts are signing Philip Rivers.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Oh you guys.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
The Indianapolis Colts signing forty four year old grandfather head
coach to his kids' high school football team, Philip Rivers,
to their practice squad.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Kurt Warner last night said, I don't know if I
could do it standing on the sidelines and watching the
NFL for a handful of years and go back and
be able to play the game. Just the speed of
the game, the evolution of the game over five years.
But he said, if there's a guy to do it,
it's gonna be Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers was never mobile.
(06:28):
Philip Rivers never had that great arm strength. Philip Rivers
can still do the things that made Philip Rivers so good.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, but think about if you work out regularly. He
never did take.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
No, no, I know, but I'm just saying just in
terms of muscles muscle memory, and that's if you work
out regularly and then you take two or three weeks off,
especially when you get over forty, you feel it when
you go back to work.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Like you feel it. Yeah. Now he's not.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Mobile, and I'm not saying that muscularly, but I'm just
speed right the game.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
But he hasn't removed himself from the game. He has
been coaching. I know it's high school, but he has
been coaching his son's team to great success there and
as much Philip Rivers did in season to work out
he's doing in retirement.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I will say that, which he was lever.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
A gym guy exactly, he's still throwing the ball all
the time in his element in that coaching role, He's
still doing the things, so there's not going to be
much physical drop off to what he was when he
last played in the NFL. In January of twenty twenty one,
that said, as we've highlighted, the Colts have a scary
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road ahead. The first stop may be the scariest Seattle
this weekend. Against that vaunted Seattle defense, that strong front,
it's gonna be. It could be a complete Elder Abuse bloodbath.
I mean, the Indianapolis Colts have great production. They've got
a great offensive line trying to salvage a season after
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a handful of losses. They're fighting for a wild card spot,
and the pat doesn't get easier. They've got the Seahawks,
They've got the forty nine ers, they have the Texans
and the.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Chief if they were five and eight. They don't call
Philip Rivers, No, they're five and eight. They just go
with they go with what's his name?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Riley? Oh? I was calling him, I was calling him
Lincoln Riley. Yeah, Leonard Riley, Leonard Riley, Leonard. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And it doesn't come out of nowhere like you mentioned.
Shane Stikeen is currently the coach for the Colts.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, who was Phillip's quarterbacks coach for years before becoming
coordinator and now head coach. And it's a system that
he knows. He's got Jonathan Taylor in the backfield. It's
just a great story right now.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
You're not asking him to be a Patrick Mahomes, No,
you know.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
No, sling it from the pocket. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 2 (09:00):
A bunch of the stories going on today. President Zelenski
of Ukraine has reiterated his refusal. He says he does
not want to give up any territory to Russia. He
emphasized the legal and moral stance against giving up land,
and then today he met with Pope Leo and the
Italian Premier Jojia Maloney. The Vatican has been urging a
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dialogue for peace, and Zelenski met with other European leaders
on Monday. The new congressional maps in Missouri, opponents have
submitted thousands of petition signatures calling for a referendum on
that plan. Organizers said that they turn in about three
hundred thousand signatures today to the Missouri Secretary of State's office,
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well more than the one hundred and ten thousand that
they would need to suspend the House districts from taking
effect until a public vote held next year. But the
signature still have to be formally verified. We've seen all that,
of course work here in California as well. It's time
for down, don't let's ex how now do the thing.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
From the Roger? Get off my plane? Roger Roger?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
What's our doctor?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Victor? Not?
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Isn't I have had to put these multy pipe and
snakes on this money. It's Gary and Shannon's terror in
the skies on k F I.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I I don't know what I do, so it just disappeared.
I don't know. I'm John cob Let me call you Handle.
I went with John. You went with Handle. You were hurtful, John.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Just A flight attendant wrote an article for sky News
and talked about, uh, let's see a grace hand. She's
an international flight attendant, and this is one of the
beautiful people that take.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
They talk about some of the questions they get as
a flight attendant. Now, I also noticed that if you're
on a longer flight, I mean, I'm the longest flight
I've been on recently, maybe three hours. The thing was, yeah,
I think it was just three hours from here to Dallas.
Three hours is about the limit. I can go three
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hours and not say a whole lot to the flight attendant.
If I go longer than that, chances are there's going
to be some sort of a conversation with the flight of.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
So you don't say anything grab her, you know, haunches
or haunches.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I didn't say haunches. You said I did, but it
sounded gross.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Well, her haunches are easier than our honkers, because you're
you're about haunch level.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I'm haunch high. Yeah. Yeah, well, squeeze, squeeze you guys.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
This is not funny. It is very chauvinistic what we're
talking about. These aren't even funny jokes. You you you
to be respected, and I always am not touched.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I'm the smile guy. I'm the guy who always watches them.
When they do they look like they're bored out of
their mind.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
But I'm like that on Instagram. Probably not, they said
they get a lot. My husband does that.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
He makes sure to make eye contact when they're doing
their safety stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
So I'm paying attention. Yeah, well people in.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
That plane, there's probably half a dozen that are paying
attention to what's going. And again, it's not like I
need to know. I know clearly, I know how to
put the seatbelt on. You've already enforced. But here the
teacher's pet.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Whatever. Fine, it's the son of a teacher. It's respect
to these people that have been working. They're working right.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
No, I know, it's a respectful thing to do, and
usually children of teachers have that.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Okay, it's a compliment. That's good. You're raised with manners.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
She says, among other things, the greatest thing that she
does as a flight attendant is she gets to explore.
She said, she gets to meet diverse people, learns about
different cultures.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah. Love the flexible schedule that comes with very long
haul flying. Cool job.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I had a friend and acquaintance who flew for I
believe it was United and did a lot of Pan Pacific.
I mean, he's like San Francisco to Tokyo or yeah,
or La to Singapore something like that.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
It's great.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You just have to deal with all the people in
the pajamas bitching at you.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
But the travel is.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Incredible because once you fly, once you're over there, you
get two or three days exactly where you have to
fly back. Yeah, and that I mean, if you like
the culture, if you like the place you're going to,
it's a really cool perk of the job, she says,
And again this is Grace Hemps and international flight attendant.
One of the things that she wishes passengers would stop
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doing is asking if they can move seats as they bord.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
They're happy to accommodate.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
They're happy to make you as comfortable as possible during
the flight, but you got to be in your seat
when you take off.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I mean, oh, I mean, like so if people don't
show up and they think, oh, there's an empty row,
can I move into there?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Because part of I mean this may be adding a
little bit too much importance to this, but when the
flight and when the airline goes down its flight, oh,
they're trying to make sure literally there's enough beef on
both sides of that airplane.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
There's that too.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Do you have to You have to have this thing
weighted and distributed in the right way. Correct weight distribution
is essential for takeoff and land.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
If you're on one side of the plane and I'm
on the other, and somebody gets on and they're supposed
to be on you know, my side of the plane, yes,
and they sit on your side of the plane, there's
gonna be a problem because you're already over there with all.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
That you were just but originally when you started the story,
you were just gonna have me on one side of
the plane and you on the other.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
And you like that weight difference too much.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, I added layers to make it less conspicuous.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Appreciate that, she says. A lot of people call us
waitresses in the sky. Part of our job is to
provide service. The most important thing is safety, of course,
she said. The best travel time first thing in the morning,
especially for going Southwestern. Yes, travel to the airport is
usually easier. Earlier flights tend to be less expensive, they said. Tuesday,
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Tuesdays and Wednesdays are normally the best days for those
cheaper flights. Also, she says, this is going to probably
irritate you. Her favorite airport is Los Angeles International Airport.
That's my husband's favorite airport.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
He loves that there's people coming in from all around
the world. I don't want to see all those people.
I like the people at Burbank Bob Hope Airport. There's
like four people there. I enjoy that.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, you got a lot of Silmar and Pacoima in
North Hollywood. Maybe maybe he gets somebody from Topanga. But
other than that, they said, it does they do follow
very drink policy. Most airlines have a very strict policy
when it comes to the service of alcohol on board,
especially if they're flying long distance. They said they always
monitor to make sure people aren't overdoing it, and they
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also make sure they're looking out for people's well being
at the boarding door. When it comes to alcohol consumption,
I think.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I've had the most.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
The highest quantity of drinks I've ever had on an
airplane is three.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
And you're not supposed to do that. You're not supposed
to have I've had about.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I've probably had about eight or nine. But I would
bring my own, you know, I would bring my own
so illegal. It is illegal, and I'm not advocating.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I mean, right, but if I'm not mistaken, you can
take it on, but you can't consume it. Like you
could bring a bottle on as long as you don't
open it. They're not going to give any heat.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
But if you get the little shampoo bottles and you
put them in a ziplock.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Like their face wash, you get on.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
No problem with all that stuff, not that I'm advocating.
And listen, I'm not reading from the anarchist cook book here.
It's just an extra shot or two. She also says
her packing tip.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I love packing tips from people who travel all the
time because they're great. Rolling your clothes instead of folding them.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, I've I've read that.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I've heard it. It works great. My husband does that.
I as much as I've tried to be an organized traveler,
I am a throw everything in.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
The person in the thing that's surprised. Is that a shock?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
But I make sure that that alcohol and that zip
block is nice and organized, that is tight.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
She says that she's not frightened by turbulence at all. Yeah,
they don't bring down a plane. You should not be
scared of turbulence. They never bring down a plane.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
It'll jar you. I mean it'll it'll rattle you a
little bit. It's not going to bring it down.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I remember one of the things that that you do
when you're a reporter in Seattle, as you go to
the Boeing plant and Everett, for whatever reason, strike or
whatever new and they were talking at the time they
were developing the seven eighty seven, the Dreamliner, and they
showed one of the wing spars, which is basically the
wing without the without the skin on it, and they
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bent that thing. They were putting it through testing and
showed how far that wing can flex.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Oh yeah, and you're fine. It's those things are built
to withstand.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Quie Well, watch on YouTube crazy airplane landings and see
him going back and forth. It's fine, You're gonna be fine,
all right when we come back. Get any of you
saying that I've learned True Crime Tuesday. We've got a
NEPO baby kills his girlfriend, calls daddy while she's still
(18:44):
clinging to life, and then it feel good true Crime
Tuesday story. Remember that Kayaker who faked his own deaths
to get away from his wife, right and did the
right thing. In terms of not murdering her. Just faked
his own death. He's free now, he's living his life.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
A good true crime. Yeah say story. All right.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
We have a murder in Santa Monica. We didn't get
to today.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Renowned opera singer Jubilant Skies killed at his home in
Santa Monica yesterday. A police department were released a statement
saying they responded to a call about nine to twenty
last night and that when they arrived they found him
with critical injuries consistent with a stabbing. Pronounced dead at
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that home. TMZ says he was found butchered inside la home.
The son has been arrested. Awful lot of thirty one
year old son found inside the home, taken into custody
as a suspect.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Patris side patricide.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Jubilant performed at Carnegie Hollywood Bowl, Kennedy Center seventy one
years old.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
There was the couple in Seami Valley just last weekend.
Was also shot and killed by the son. Oh that's right.
He then went on to commit suicide.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
You've got to be nice to your kids. How's it
going with those kids of yours. They're still my kids?
Are you sure?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I mean these kids, these killing kids were still the kids.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I guess. But that's a good place to shoot them
a text.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Okay, hey, just checking in and it's time to start
True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
The story is true true, No, it sounds made up.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Barry and Shannon present True Crime.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Well, this story actually comes to us from London by
way of Chicago. Joshua Michaels, twenty six year old guy
from Chicago, had been studying filmmaking at Goldsmith's University of London,
describes himself as a cinematographer, photographer, drone pilot, and his
LinkedIn page he had gotten his undergraduate degree in cinematography
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and film production from DePaul University a few years ago.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I feel like the title drone Pilot just reeks of
I have disposable income, I have disposable money.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I'm a drone pilot.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah. I can spend hours piloting a drone because I
don't have to work in those hours.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I think it's one of those up and coming things
that probably we I mean, there are people who make
all kinds of money piloting drone for for what our companies,
real estate companies. Well, it's just it's different than what
it's different than what it was ten years ago. Perhaps
at least that's what he wants us to think.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
It is so his.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
He got into a relationship with Ji Wang, and there
was something butarticular about g that she was a self
confessed germophobe.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Ah. She developed a rash at.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
One point and blamed it on Josh, suggesting he had
given her an STD.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
These two had been seeing each other for only six
months and had slept together only once in that time.
Because of her high standards of cleanliness. I've known people
like this, one person like this who was such a
germophobe that this person did not want to have sex
because this person did not want any sort of.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Exchange. Well, you don't have to tell me. I don't
know a lot. I didn't ask a lot of follow ups.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, I'm gonna say that she would disinfect his sofa
before she sat on it.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
That would be difficult to date someone like that.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
She would clean his apartment when she was over to
visit him, and when they did agree to do the deed,
she sent him instructions on how to come into the apartment,
how to wash himself, how to apply a prophylactic device
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before he even entered the boudoir where she would be waiting.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Oh my gosh. She also insisted she put the sexy
into this.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Doesn't she that this guy show her his test results
before they had sex. But after developing a rash, she
demanded that he'd take another test and he refused.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
So she accused him of ruining her life. Yes, threatened
to go to the university. What are you gonna say.
This guy's got an STD and he's passing it.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
He didn't follow the instructions.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
They argue that because she in a serious relationship and
she was frustrated he wasn't making more time with her.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Well, man, he's got to take all the time to
get right now.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
He's got to do a silkwood scrub before he gets
on in there. On the day of the murder, he
had gone to her apartment to make a charcuterie board
to console her. Wait just a dang minute, there is
not one germophobe in the history of germophobes that wants
a charcutery board.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
There is no way in hell if I'm having you silkwood.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Scrub your ass before you have any sexy time with me.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
That I'm going to be impressed with a sharcuterie board.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Everybody's knowing you've touched all of those things, and they've
just been sitting there letting the air touch them and
all the particles in the air. I mean, literally, what
a nightmare for a germaphobe is a charcuterie board. Well,
that may have been why the argument broke out. Among
other things.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
He stabbed her in the face twice and choked her
before he left her home.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Now he had said that she went after him originally.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I bet I bet she saw that charcuterie board and
she was like, oh, hell no, you brought all those
germs in here. You're just having that meat sweat in
the open. And I bet she I'd call I'd say
self defense. And you know what, there's not a jury
in this land that would not forgive him for any
sort of murder. He made her this beautiful selection of
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meats and cheeses, and through her own faults, she saw
that as an attack on her and her lack of germs,
and she went after him, and he defended himself.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I would vote not guilty. I will say this.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
The prosecutors said she had a shot at living if
he had called the ambulance. Okay, but instead he called
his dad while she was dying. Yeah, asking for an attorney.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Well yeah, I mean I can see or that he
would have questions of.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
And you know what's worse, he tells the police when
they show up. Okay, well I know how this looks. Yeah,
he said, it's not what it seems. But this is
a pretty strong defense. I think he's got a pretty
strong defense. Well he's been found guilty. Oh yeah, he
has not yet been sentenced in London. But oh, this
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is in London. It's not in America. I was treating
this as if it was in America. In America, we
charcooterie goes a long way.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, we don't turn down perfectly slights, delicious meats and cheeses.
You know, a follow up to US's kind to our
germophobes when they shun our meats.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Follow up to a long ago true crime Tuesday story.
But a guy who faked his own death. This is
probably the best way it could have worked out.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
My husband and I have this understanding with each other
where we say to each other, just divorce me, don't
kill me? Is how often do you watch a Dateline
or twenty twenty or any Keith Morrison vehicle and they
could have just gotten a divorce.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, why do you have to kill the other person?
Just get a divorce? You guys talk about this.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yes, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI am six forty.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
You and your wife have never had the conversation of
if you want to leave me, just get a divorce,
don't kill me.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
No.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Oh, with the amount of murder that goes on in relationships,
I think it's something that should be addressed.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
I'll bring it up this afternoon. I'm sure that will
be received very warm. Honey. I was thinking, honey.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I was thinking today at work, who are you liking
on Instagram? And then there's this if you want to
kill me, just divorce me.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
A few years ago, we told you the story about
Ryan borg Art. He is a guy from Wisconsin who
faked his own death so he could leave his wife
of twenty two.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Years, father of three, and they're in their mid forties,
and apparently he wanted to leave the country, leave his
family behind, so he could be with his lover. At
first the disappearance when we covered I think we disappeared.
We covered it disappearing father of three and Wisconsin, and
it was weird because it was Wisconsin and the kayaking
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and all of the things, and it was three young kids.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
And did he drown and this is all very weird.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yes, the sudden disappearance treated as a possible drowning. But
they searched and they searched, and they searched for fifty
eight days to the tune of thirty thousand dollars, and
those odd clues started to rear their heads, didn't they.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, I mean, originally he'd flipped his kayak, he dumped
his phone, he put everything into the water. But he
had also pass an inflatable boat and then e biked
his way to Madison, Wisconsin. Overnight he crossed into the border, Sorry,
crossed over the border into Canada and was said to
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be in communication with this Russian mistress, Katya, mother of two.
He eventually got a new passport, He got a three
hundred and seventy five thousand dollars life insurance policy BEFO
before fleeing to Georgia, the Soviet Georgia, not the Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
They say you spent four months there before returning to
America after investigators convinced him to do so. And I'm
gonna call BS on that. I think he spent four
months with Katia and was like, you know what, I
don't like her either. This is in the grass isn't greener.
I gotta get the hell away from this woman. She's
Russian and she's crazy. Where's America at?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
He turned himself in charged with obstruction two days after
he got home. Emily filed for divorce because that's a
hard sell. She didn't kill him, She filed for divorce.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
A guy from Wisconsin hooking up with a Russian woman.
That is quite a one eighty. Like you're a guy
from the Midwest. You like your brats, you like your beer,
you like your Packers football, and suddenly you're involved with
a Russian and she's slinging vodka and it's cold and
she never smiles.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
It's colder than Wisconsin cold. It's Russia cold.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Now.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
A tabloid reached out, can get cook.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
If you can't cook for a Wisconsin man, you're screwed.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
You're as door dash.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
A tabloid reached out to Katya and again, this is
the Russian mom that he left his wife for. She
said that she told officers that she's probably skinny.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Ryan Borgwart, No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Borgwart was just a friend who had been helping her
with problems before, asking why they contacted her. After a
few weeks of communication, she eventually put them in touch
with Borgwart, saying, I will talk to Ryan so that
he comes back sooner. I beg you please help him
so that he does not have many problems with the law,
and so that they tried to keep his passport, and
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she says, maybe they will listen to your word. He
was always honest with you in touch. No one knows
how hard it is for him now, though he tries
not to show it. He explained that they had met
online last year and she initially said that she was
from Ukraine, that they quickly became close, that they had
identical personalities. It took about a month.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
She said, yeah, she was who you wanted her to be,
because she wanted your American dollars.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
When he finally turned himself in, he revealed that he
deliberately flipped his kayak, dumped his phone and his stuff
in the water before he paddled to safety on an
inflatable boat and then rode that ee bike into Madison overnight.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I think he got hungry, do you think so? You
don't think Georgia has a lot of great food down there.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I don't think Russian slash Ukrainian women are I don't know,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
She looks pretty young and thin.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
When these pictures that I'm pulling up, you can't have
You can't have that with a guy from Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
You got to give him his meats.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
He only had to cheese curds. He only had to
serve eighty nine days in jail. The state judge did
order him to pay the costs of the search. If
you remember, it cost about thirty grand to look for
him after they thought that his kayak had gone down
with him in it on Green Lake there in Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah, I was on that road trip to Utah. I
stopped at a lot of Maverick gas stations. You buy
cheese curds there. They had different flavored cheese curds in
the car. Really, I mean, why not?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I guess that's I've never thought of that. We're doing
real work here today, why not?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I got a lot of topics to bring up with
my wife when I get home today. Please don't Yeah,
you're not going to be allowed back here.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Cheese curts in the car, honey, Look what I brought home.
I got a man of cheese kurts from the gas station. Okay,
we're leaving. I got dinner tonight. Worry by uh borrow
stay dry. Everybody that
Speaker 2 (33:17):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
A big deal last night, of course, was that the
Chargers beat the Eagles twenty two to nineteen in overtime,
getting them a step closer to the playoffs. The big
deal weather wise is there's a huge fog bank up
in northern California, basically from Bakersfield north all the way
towards red Bluff and Redding. About a four hundred mile
(00:31):
bank of fog in the central Valley has kept temperatures
on the low end for several weeks, well below average.
In fact, the high temperature in Sacramento today is only
forecast to be forty five degrees.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
True Crime Tuesday is right around the corner. Today we'll
tell you the story of a wealthy student from Chicago
who stabbed his girlfriend to death and called.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Daddy as she lay dying to get a lawyer. Daddy,
something is happy and Daddy, you won't believe what she
made me do. Daddy, it's what else is going on.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Time for Time, our trending story is brought to you
by tradean wealth a future of retirement planning and wealth management.
Is here La Trajan Wealth Call today three one oh
two nine sixty. Big deal tonight is that President Trump
sets travel to Pennsylvania, is delivering a speech on the economy,
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which is kind of antithetical to what he said in
this interview with Politico yesterday when he described the economy
as being a plus plus plus plus plus plus.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I want to talk about the economy, sir, here at home,
and I wonder.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
What grade you would give A plus A plus plus
plus plus plus plus plus plus.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
So far, he hasn't made a whole lot of trips
around the country, around the United States to teut his agenda,
and in fact, Susie Wiles, white House Chief of State,
had suggested that he needs to get back out on
that campaign trail, finger quotes and do these these types
of rallies that were so popular during his presidential run.
(02:12):
So may this may look like a campaign rally when
we see it tonight in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
All right, don't panic, but Pepsi Co Is about to
yank hundreds of drinks and chips off store shelves. Pepsi
Co Is behind Pepsi Gatorade, Cheetos, lays, Dorito's tostitos Quaker oats.
It says it's going to eliminate nearly twenty percent of
its entire product lineup by early next year. It's one
of the biggest grocery shakeups in the grocery aisle in years.
(02:43):
They say, favorite flavors, limited editions, long standing staples could
quietly disappear.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Why because of that.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Bad, scary grocery store economy we're living in. They say
the purge comes as shoppers increasingly price sensitive, that many
are skipping branded snacks altogether, getting those generic you know,
and instead of the the ho hos are getting the
he highs. And I don't know, I made up a
generic brand for a Hostess Tree.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
That has oh no, he's.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Careful okay full, that has squeezed profits and it has
led to rounds as layoffs.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I heard it now, No, I heard it, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, So we don't.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Know, like we don't know exactly what it's going to be.
Like I'm I'm.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Already searching you, guys, I'm scamming this article looking for
the words nacho cheese, doritos, like I'm hearing you, I'm
seeing you.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Those are going. I just don't know what they're going
to act.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Speaking of the soda, the soda wars Coke is number
one and has been for a long time. Give me
numbers two, three, four of soda. Coca Cola is number one,
Doctor Pepper, yeah, number two, Mountain Dew, no.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Ginger, eu sprite, sprite, and then Pepsi is number Four's
fallen to number four? Yeah, well they haven't. They haven't.
What have they done? What can you tell me?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I mean pepsi you think about sure, that's uh, you know,
it's right up there with tab and diet. Pepsi is
like what our moms would drink. But like, pepsi hasn't
really had any brand visibility in the past fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
After Michael Jackson, I would say thirty years yeah, plus right,
You know, you do have to advertise your product. Coca
Cola advertises all the time.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Doctor Pepper just has a cult following and always will.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, what's in that stuff? My brother loves doctor Pepper.
What is it twenty three different ingredients or twenty that
right or whatever it is? Are you a doctor Pepper
guye too?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Oh, okay, very much so. I thought of all of
those to choose from. I don't think I've ever seen
you have it.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
If I had to choose between if I had to
choose between those two colas, between Pepsi and Coke, I
would choose a Pepsi. But you don't find them very
it's not it's not as common. Yeah, Coke has obviously
dominated the market. But if I was given a choice
of anything, I'm going to drink at Doctor Pepper.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It depends on what contracts a place gets. They get
the Coke contract, you know, that comes with the the
seven up coke seven up and the marks. I remember
the way it used to be. I don't know what
allegiance has changed. But if you get the Pepsi contract,
then you get the you know, the the sprite as
opposed to the seven app.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
And it's confusing because the new mister Pib is out.
Have you've seen the commercials for that. Mister Pip, which is,
like you can was a competitor to Doctor Pepper now
put Doctor Pepper owns it, but only in certain markets.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
It's a weird. It's a very we I don't know
if I've ever had a doctor Pib.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Right, Indianapolis colts are signing Philip Rivers.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Oh you guys.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
The Indianapolis Colts signing forty four year old grandfather head
coach to his kids' high school football team, Philip Rivers,
to their practice squad.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Kurt Warner last night said, I don't know if I
could do it standing on the sidelines and watching the
NFL for a handful of years and go back and
be able to play the game. Just the speed of
the game, the evolution of the game over five years.
But he said, if there's a guy to do it,
it's gonna be Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers was never mobile.
(06:28):
Philip Rivers never had that great arm strength. Philip Rivers
can still do the things that made Philip Rivers so good.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, but think about if you work out regularly. He
never did take.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
No, no, I know, but I'm just saying just in
terms of muscles muscle memory, and that's if you work
out regularly and then you take two or three weeks off,
especially when you get over forty, you feel it when
you go back to work.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Like you feel it. Yeah. Now he's not.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Mobile, and I'm not saying that muscularly, but I'm just
speed right the game.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
But he hasn't removed himself from the game. He has
been coaching. I know it's high school, but he has
been coaching his son's team to great success there and
as much Philip Rivers did in season to work out
he's doing in retirement.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I will say that, which he was lever.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
A gym guy exactly, he's still throwing the ball all
the time in his element in that coaching role, He's
still doing the things, so there's not going to be
much physical drop off to what he was when he
last played in the NFL. In January of twenty twenty one,
that said, as we've highlighted, the Colts have a scary
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road ahead. The first stop may be the scariest Seattle
this weekend. Against that vaunted Seattle defense, that strong front,
it's gonna be. It could be a complete Elder Abuse bloodbath.
I mean, the Indianapolis Colts have great production. They've got
a great offensive line trying to salvage a season after
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a handful of losses. They're fighting for a wild card spot,
and the pat doesn't get easier. They've got the Seahawks,
They've got the forty nine ers, they have the Texans
and the.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Chief if they were five and eight. They don't call
Philip Rivers, No, they're five and eight. They just go
with they go with what's his name?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Riley? Oh? I was calling him, I was calling him
Lincoln Riley. Yeah, Leonard Riley, Leonard Riley, Leonard. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And it doesn't come out of nowhere like you mentioned.
Shane Stikeen is currently the coach for the Colts.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, who was Phillip's quarterbacks coach for years before becoming
coordinator and now head coach. And it's a system that
he knows. He's got Jonathan Taylor in the backfield. It's
just a great story right now.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
You're not asking him to be a Patrick Mahomes, No,
you know.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
No, sling it from the pocket. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
A bunch of the stories going on today. President Zelenski
of Ukraine has reiterated his refusal. He says he does
not want to give up any territory to Russia. He
emphasized the legal and moral stance against giving up land,
and then today he met with Pope Leo and the
Italian Premier Jojia Maloney. The Vatican has been urging a
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dialogue for peace, and Zelenski met with other European leaders
on Monday. The new congressional maps in Missouri, opponents have
submitted thousands of petition signatures calling for a referendum on
that plan. Organizers said that they turn in about three
hundred thousand signatures today to the Missouri Secretary of State's office,
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well more than the one hundred and ten thousand that
they would need to suspend the House districts from taking
effect until a public vote held next year. But the
signature still have to be formally verified. We've seen all that,
of course work here in California as well. It's time
for down, don't let's ex how now do the thing.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
From the Roger? Get off my plane? Roger Roger?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
What's our doctor?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Victor? Not?
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Isn't I have had to put these multy pipe and
snakes on this money. It's Gary and Shannon's terror in
the skies on k F I.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I I don't know what I do, so it just disappeared.
I don't know. I'm John cob Let me call you Handle.
I went with John. You went with Handle. You were hurtful, John.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Just A flight attendant wrote an article for sky News
and talked about, uh, let's see a grace hand. She's
an international flight attendant, and this is one of the
beautiful people that take.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
They talk about some of the questions they get as
a flight attendant. Now, I also noticed that if you're
on a longer flight, I mean, I'm the longest flight
I've been on recently, maybe three hours. The thing was, yeah,
I think it was just three hours from here to Dallas.
Three hours is about the limit. I can go three
(11:28):
hours and not say a whole lot to the flight attendant.
If I go longer than that, chances are there's going
to be some sort of a conversation with the flight of.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
So you don't say anything grab her, you know, haunches
or haunches.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I didn't say haunches. You said I did, but it
sounded gross.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Well, her haunches are easier than our honkers, because you're
you're about haunch level.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I'm haunch high. Yeah. Yeah, well, squeeze, squeeze you guys.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
This is not funny. It is very chauvinistic what we're
talking about. These aren't even funny jokes. You you you
to be respected, and I always am not touched.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I'm the smile guy. I'm the guy who always watches them.
When they do they look like they're bored out of
their mind.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
But I'm like that on Instagram. Probably not, they said
they get a lot. My husband does that.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
He makes sure to make eye contact when they're doing
their safety stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
So I'm paying attention. Yeah, well people in.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
That plane, there's probably half a dozen that are paying
attention to what's going. And again, it's not like I
need to know. I know clearly, I know how to
put the seatbelt on. You've already enforced. But here the
teacher's pet.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Whatever. Fine, it's the son of a teacher. It's respect
to these people that have been working. They're working right.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
No, I know, it's a respectful thing to do, and
usually children of teachers have that.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Okay, it's a compliment. That's good. You're raised with manners.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
She says, among other things, the greatest thing that she
does as a flight attendant is she gets to explore.
She said, she gets to meet diverse people, learns about
different cultures.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah. Love the flexible schedule that comes with very long
haul flying. Cool job.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I had a friend and acquaintance who flew for I
believe it was United and did a lot of Pan Pacific.
I mean, he's like San Francisco to Tokyo or yeah,
or La to Singapore something like that.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
It's great.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You just have to deal with all the people in
the pajamas bitching at you.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
But the travel is.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Incredible because once you fly, once you're over there, you
get two or three days exactly where you have to
fly back. Yeah, and that I mean, if you like
the culture, if you like the place you're going to,
it's a really cool perk of the job, she says,
And again this is Grace Hemps and international flight attendant.
One of the things that she wishes passengers would stop
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doing is asking if they can move seats as they bord.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
They're happy to accommodate.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
They're happy to make you as comfortable as possible during
the flight, but you got to be in your seat
when you take off.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I mean, oh, I mean, like so if people don't
show up and they think, oh, there's an empty row,
can I move into there?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Because part of I mean this may be adding a
little bit too much importance to this, but when the
flight and when the airline goes down its flight, oh,
they're trying to make sure literally there's enough beef on
both sides of that airplane.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
There's that too.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Do you have to You have to have this thing
weighted and distributed in the right way. Correct weight distribution
is essential for takeoff and land.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
If you're on one side of the plane and I'm
on the other, and somebody gets on and they're supposed
to be on you know, my side of the plane, yes,
and they sit on your side of the plane, there's
gonna be a problem because you're already over there with all.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
That you were just but originally when you started the story,
you were just gonna have me on one side of
the plane and you on the other.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
And you like that weight difference too much.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, I added layers to make it less conspicuous.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Appreciate that, she says. A lot of people call us
waitresses in the sky. Part of our job is to
provide service. The most important thing is safety, of course,
she said. The best travel time first thing in the morning,
especially for going Southwestern. Yes, travel to the airport is
usually easier. Earlier flights tend to be less expensive, they said. Tuesday,
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Tuesdays and Wednesdays are normally the best days for those
cheaper flights. Also, she says, this is going to probably
irritate you. Her favorite airport is Los Angeles International Airport.
That's my husband's favorite airport.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
He loves that there's people coming in from all around
the world. I don't want to see all those people.
I like the people at Burbank Bob Hope Airport. There's
like four people there. I enjoy that.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, you got a lot of Silmar and Pacoima in
North Hollywood. Maybe maybe he gets somebody from Topanga. But
other than that, they said, it does they do follow
very drink policy. Most airlines have a very strict policy
when it comes to the service of alcohol on board,
especially if they're flying long distance. They said they always
monitor to make sure people aren't overdoing it, and they
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also make sure they're looking out for people's well being
at the boarding door. When it comes to alcohol consumption,
I think.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I've had the most.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
The highest quantity of drinks I've ever had on an
airplane is three.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
And you're not supposed to do that. You're not supposed
to have I've had about.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I've probably had about eight or nine. But I would
bring my own, you know, I would bring my own
so illegal. It is illegal, and I'm not advocating.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I mean, right, but if I'm not mistaken, you can
take it on, but you can't consume it. Like you
could bring a bottle on as long as you don't
open it. They're not going to give any heat.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
But if you get the little shampoo bottles and you
put them in a ziplock.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Like their face wash, you get on.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
No problem with all that stuff, not that I'm advocating.
And listen, I'm not reading from the anarchist cook book here.
It's just an extra shot or two. She also says
her packing tip.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I love packing tips from people who travel all the
time because they're great. Rolling your clothes instead of folding them.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, I've I've read that.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I've heard it. It works great. My husband does that.
I as much as I've tried to be an organized traveler,
I am a throw everything in.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
The person in the thing that's surprised. Is that a shock?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
But I make sure that that alcohol and that zip
block is nice and organized, that is tight.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
She says that she's not frightened by turbulence at all. Yeah,
they don't bring down a plane. You should not be
scared of turbulence. They never bring down a plane.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
It'll jar you. I mean it'll it'll rattle you a
little bit. It's not going to bring it down.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I remember one of the things that that you do
when you're a reporter in Seattle, as you go to
the Boeing plant and Everett, for whatever reason, strike or
whatever new and they were talking at the time they
were developing the seven eighty seven, the Dreamliner, and they
showed one of the wing spars, which is basically the
wing without the without the skin on it, and they
(18:12):
bent that thing. They were putting it through testing and
showed how far that wing can flex.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Oh yeah, and you're fine. It's those things are built
to withstand.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Quie Well, watch on YouTube crazy airplane landings and see
him going back and forth. It's fine, You're gonna be fine,
all right when we come back. Get any of you
saying that I've learned True Crime Tuesday. We've got a
NEPO baby kills his girlfriend, calls daddy while she's still
(18:44):
clinging to life, and then it feel good true Crime
Tuesday story. Remember that Kayaker who faked his own deaths
to get away from his wife, right and did the
right thing. In terms of not murdering her. Just faked
his own death. He's free now, he's living his life.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
A good true crime. Yeah say story. All right.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
We have a murder in Santa Monica. We didn't get
to today.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Renowned opera singer Jubilant Skies killed at his home in
Santa Monica yesterday. A police department were released a statement
saying they responded to a call about nine to twenty
last night and that when they arrived they found him
with critical injuries consistent with a stabbing. Pronounced dead at
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that home. TMZ says he was found butchered inside la home.
The son has been arrested. Awful lot of thirty one
year old son found inside the home, taken into custody
as a suspect.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Patris side patricide.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Jubilant performed at Carnegie Hollywood Bowl, Kennedy Center seventy one
years old.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
There was the couple in Seami Valley just last weekend.
Was also shot and killed by the son. Oh that's right.
He then went on to commit suicide.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
You've got to be nice to your kids. How's it
going with those kids of yours. They're still my kids?
Are you sure?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I mean these kids, these killing kids were still the kids.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I guess. But that's a good place to shoot them
a text.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Okay, hey, just checking in and it's time to start
True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
The story is true true, No, it sounds made up.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Barry and Shannon present True Crime.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Well, this story actually comes to us from London by
way of Chicago. Joshua Michaels, twenty six year old guy
from Chicago, had been studying filmmaking at Goldsmith's University of London,
describes himself as a cinematographer, photographer, drone pilot, and his
LinkedIn page he had gotten his undergraduate degree in cinematography
(21:08):
and film production from DePaul University a few years ago.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I feel like the title drone Pilot just reeks of
I have disposable income, I have disposable money.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I'm a drone pilot.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah. I can spend hours piloting a drone because I
don't have to work in those hours.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I think it's one of those up and coming things
that probably we I mean, there are people who make
all kinds of money piloting drone for for what our companies,
real estate companies. Well, it's just it's different than what
it's different than what it was ten years ago. Perhaps
at least that's what he wants us to think.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
It is so his.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
He got into a relationship with Ji Wang, and there
was something butarticular about g that she was a self
confessed germophobe.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Ah. She developed a rash at.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
One point and blamed it on Josh, suggesting he had
given her an STD.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
These two had been seeing each other for only six
months and had slept together only once in that time.
Because of her high standards of cleanliness. I've known people
like this, one person like this who was such a
germophobe that this person did not want to have sex
because this person did not want any sort of.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Exchange. Well, you don't have to tell me. I don't
know a lot. I didn't ask a lot of follow ups.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, I'm gonna say that she would disinfect his sofa
before she sat on it.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
That would be difficult to date someone like that.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
She would clean his apartment when she was over to
visit him, and when they did agree to do the deed,
she sent him instructions on how to come into the apartment,
how to wash himself, how to apply a prophylactic device
(23:25):
before he even entered the boudoir where she would be waiting.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Oh my gosh. She also insisted she put the sexy
into this.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Doesn't she that this guy show her his test results
before they had sex. But after developing a rash, she
demanded that he'd take another test and he refused.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
So she accused him of ruining her life. Yes, threatened
to go to the university. What are you gonna say.
This guy's got an STD and he's passing it.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
He didn't follow the instructions.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
They argue that because she in a serious relationship and
she was frustrated he wasn't making more time with her.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Well, man, he's got to take all the time to
get right now.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
He's got to do a silkwood scrub before he gets
on in there. On the day of the murder, he
had gone to her apartment to make a charcuterie board
to console her. Wait just a dang minute, there is
not one germophobe in the history of germophobes that wants
a charcutery board.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
There is no way in hell if I'm having you silkwood.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Scrub your ass before you have any sexy time with me.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
That I'm going to be impressed with a sharcuterie board.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Everybody's knowing you've touched all of those things, and they've
just been sitting there letting the air touch them and
all the particles in the air. I mean, literally, what
a nightmare for a germaphobe is a charcuterie board. Well,
that may have been why the argument broke out. Among
other things.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
He stabbed her in the face twice and choked her
before he left her home.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Now he had said that she went after him originally.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I bet I bet she saw that charcuterie board and
she was like, oh, hell no, you brought all those
germs in here. You're just having that meat sweat in
the open. And I bet she I'd call I'd say
self defense. And you know what, there's not a jury
in this land that would not forgive him for any
sort of murder. He made her this beautiful selection of
(25:30):
meats and cheeses, and through her own faults, she saw
that as an attack on her and her lack of germs,
and she went after him, and he defended himself.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I would vote not guilty. I will say this.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
The prosecutors said she had a shot at living if
he had called the ambulance. Okay, but instead he called
his dad while she was dying. Yeah, asking for an attorney.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Well yeah, I mean I can see or that he
would have questions of.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
And you know what's worse, he tells the police when
they show up. Okay, well I know how this looks. Yeah,
he said, it's not what it seems. But this is
a pretty strong defense. I think he's got a pretty
strong defense. Well he's been found guilty. Oh yeah, he
has not yet been sentenced in London. But oh, this
(26:24):
is in London. It's not in America. I was treating
this as if it was in America. In America, we
charcooterie goes a long way.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, we don't turn down perfectly slights, delicious meats and cheeses.
You know, a follow up to US's kind to our
germophobes when they shun our meats.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Follow up to a long ago true crime Tuesday story.
But a guy who faked his own death. This is
probably the best way it could have worked out.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
My husband and I have this understanding with each other
where we say to each other, just divorce me, don't
kill me? Is how often do you watch a Dateline
or twenty twenty or any Keith Morrison vehicle and they
could have just gotten a divorce.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, why do you have to kill the other person?
Just get a divorce? You guys talk about this.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yes, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI am six forty.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
You and your wife have never had the conversation of
if you want to leave me, just get a divorce,
don't kill me.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
No.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Oh, with the amount of murder that goes on in relationships,
I think it's something that should be addressed.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
I'll bring it up this afternoon. I'm sure that will
be received very warm. Honey. I was thinking, honey.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I was thinking today at work, who are you liking
on Instagram? And then there's this if you want to
kill me, just divorce me.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
A few years ago, we told you the story about
Ryan borg Art. He is a guy from Wisconsin who
faked his own death so he could leave his wife
of twenty two.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Years, father of three, and they're in their mid forties,
and apparently he wanted to leave the country, leave his
family behind, so he could be with his lover. At
first the disappearance when we covered I think we disappeared.
We covered it disappearing father of three and Wisconsin, and
it was weird because it was Wisconsin and the kayaking
(28:32):
and all of the things, and it was three young kids.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
And did he drown and this is all very weird.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yes, the sudden disappearance treated as a possible drowning. But
they searched and they searched, and they searched for fifty
eight days to the tune of thirty thousand dollars, and
those odd clues started to rear their heads, didn't they.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, I mean, originally he'd flipped his kayak, he dumped
his phone, he put everything into the water. But he
had also pass an inflatable boat and then e biked
his way to Madison, Wisconsin. Overnight he crossed into the border, Sorry,
crossed over the border into Canada and was said to
(29:13):
be in communication with this Russian mistress, Katya, mother of two.
He eventually got a new passport, He got a three
hundred and seventy five thousand dollars life insurance policy BEFO
before fleeing to Georgia, the Soviet Georgia, not the Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
They say you spent four months there before returning to
America after investigators convinced him to do so. And I'm
gonna call BS on that. I think he spent four
months with Katia and was like, you know what, I
don't like her either. This is in the grass isn't greener.
I gotta get the hell away from this woman. She's
Russian and she's crazy. Where's America at?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
He turned himself in charged with obstruction two days after
he got home. Emily filed for divorce because that's a
hard sell. She didn't kill him, She filed for divorce.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
A guy from Wisconsin hooking up with a Russian woman.
That is quite a one eighty. Like you're a guy
from the Midwest. You like your brats, you like your beer,
you like your Packers football, and suddenly you're involved with
a Russian and she's slinging vodka and it's cold and
she never smiles.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
It's colder than Wisconsin cold. It's Russia cold.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Now.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
A tabloid reached out, can get cook.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
If you can't cook for a Wisconsin man, you're screwed.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
You're as door dash.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
A tabloid reached out to Katya and again, this is
the Russian mom that he left his wife for. She
said that she told officers that she's probably skinny.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Ryan Borgwart, No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Borgwart was just a friend who had been helping her
with problems before, asking why they contacted her. After a
few weeks of communication, she eventually put them in touch
with Borgwart, saying, I will talk to Ryan so that
he comes back sooner. I beg you please help him
so that he does not have many problems with the law,
and so that they tried to keep his passport, and
(31:11):
she says, maybe they will listen to your word. He
was always honest with you in touch. No one knows
how hard it is for him now, though he tries
not to show it. He explained that they had met
online last year and she initially said that she was
from Ukraine, that they quickly became close, that they had
identical personalities. It took about a month.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
She said, yeah, she was who you wanted her to be,
because she wanted your American dollars.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
When he finally turned himself in, he revealed that he
deliberately flipped his kayak, dumped his phone and his stuff
in the water before he paddled to safety on an
inflatable boat and then rode that ee bike into Madison overnight.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I think he got hungry, do you think so? You
don't think Georgia has a lot of great food down there.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I don't think Russian slash Ukrainian women are I don't know,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
She looks pretty young and thin.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
When these pictures that I'm pulling up, you can't have
You can't have that with a guy from Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
You got to give him his meats.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
He only had to cheese curds. He only had to
serve eighty nine days in jail. The state judge did
order him to pay the costs of the search. If
you remember, it cost about thirty grand to look for
him after they thought that his kayak had gone down
with him in it on Green Lake there in Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah, I was on that road trip to Utah. I
stopped at a lot of Maverick gas stations. You buy
cheese curds there. They had different flavored cheese curds in
the car. Really, I mean, why not?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I guess that's I've never thought of that. We're doing
real work here today, why not?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I got a lot of topics to bring up with
my wife when I get home today. Please don't Yeah,
you're not going to be allowed back here.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Cheese curts in the car, honey, Look what I brought home.
I got a man of cheese kurts from the gas station. Okay,
we're leaving. I got dinner tonight. Worry by uh borrow
stay dry. Everybody that
Speaker 2 (33:17):
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