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October 15, 2025 28 mins
Gary and Shannon pitch their new “vertical short” Space Wars before diving into #SWAMPWATCH, where they break down the latest out of D.C., including President Trump accusing TIME Magazine of digitally “disappearing” his hair. Shannon’s directorial debut keeps the team distracted as #TerrorInTheSkies unfolds: an American Airlines flight forced to turn around after passengers reported a mysterious odor. Plus, WestJet plans to charge for reclining seats. Later, Parenting with Justin Worsham tackles whether we’re creating struggles just to feel challenged, and why California might be forgetting its seniors.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's a Wednesday, so what you watch in Wednesday comes
near the end of the show. Let us know what
you have been watching on television, if it's a vertical
short or however you Hello.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Gary and Shannon. I would love to audition for your
vertical short. Inter Where do I sign up?

Speaker 1 (00:29):
No?

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Seriously, like, where do I sign?

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah? No?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I would love it.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I think that if we crowdsource the Space Wars in
terms of everyone gets involved, got a little skin in
the game, we could really make something for all of us.
Now that said, Gary and I have been spitballing the
first vertical short, and I've come up with a pretty
damn good one. We're going to focus group it in

(00:55):
the next break. We found a couple people around here.
They're going to listen to it. But we came up
with it Who Can't Escape. We came up with it
pretty quickly for the first vertical short to draw people
into the saga that is Space Wars, and I think
it's pretty good. And if we came up with that
first one, that quickly. I don't even think the sky

(01:17):
is the limit.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Hey, guys, I'm in New York State.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
And if you don't mind a guy in a wheelchair
playing with you, guys, I.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Don't mind doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
I love this. Oh this is about sports.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Oh never mind bye.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Oh he meant the softball team. I thought he meant
Space Wars. I would love to have a guy in
a wheelchair in Space Wars. I think there's a very
that's a very important role.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
He can join our softball team too.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Sure he can, Yes, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
They've got those those cool wheelchairs for sports. Those are expensive,
the cool chairs, the ones that like athletes use, those
are freaking badass. I wonder if he's got one of
those those adaptive wheelchairs. But he's in New York. That's
really the problem. That's that's a handicap. I see, Well,

(02:13):
how are we going to get him here for our
softball game?

Speaker 3 (02:16):
I'm not I'm not footing that bill. I apologize. Yeah,
it's time for swampwatch. I'm a politician, which means I'm
a cheat and a liar.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
Yeah, we got the real problem is that our leaders
are done.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
The other side never quits.

Speaker 6 (02:33):
So what I'm not going anywhere So.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
That you play the squad, I can imagine what can
be and be unburdened by what has been. You knowvans
have always been gone with you, but they're not stupid.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Have the people voted for you with not swamp watch?
They're all count of knowing? Well, let's sorry.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I kind of a follow up to what you were
talking about yesterday. Remember Donald Trump was up said about
the Time magazine cover. They were at least giving him
kudos for the historic peace deal that he secured to
end the war in Gaza. As all living Israeli hostages
were turned over. The picture of the president, alongside the
words his triumph, Trump appeared to be looking into a

(03:19):
beam of light. Many editors have considered this a magisterial pose.
But because of the camera angle, his hair is very
very thin, and that you mentioned the chin was not
a very flattering angle of his chin and the neck
skin and things like that. There were some people who

(03:41):
reportedly sa in the Time magazine newsroom who may have
been laughing at all of this and time said that
this was the signature achievement of his second term.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
But they couldn't find a good picture of him.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
That is the worst excuse. Like I said, yes, there
are so many. He's the most photographed person right now
and has been photo half for year decades.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, silly, silly, I say.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
There is of course, the government shutdown. We're now into
its third week. Republicans and Democrats continue to dig in
their heels on the stopgap funding proposals that both of
them both sides have put in. The Senate is set
to vote today for a ninth time on the short
term funding resolutions that have failed in eight previous votes.

(04:31):
This is verging on insanity where they continue to do
the same thing over and over again. I don't know
if they're expecting different results or if they're doing this
just to be theatrical with each other, but they continue
to have dueling news conferences in Washington, d c, et cetera.
While all of this is playing out, and we're starting

(04:52):
to see it come down.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
To real money.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
I mean, people are starting to recognize that those government
workers who weren't paid on the or won't be paid today.
I should say on the fifteenth. That's going to start
making its way into communities, businesses, et cetera that are
not getting the money that should be spent in their
places of business because the government's not paying their workers.

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Speaker 3 (06:17):
We are talking. I have no idea where we are.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I'm so excited about space wars that awesome. I just
can't like it's all snowballing in my head like I'm.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Making going on all the It is time we give
away the money for Terror in the Skies.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
About it all, Roger, get off my plate, Roger, Roger,
what's our vector, Victor giving.

Speaker 6 (06:52):
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It's Gary and Shannon's Terror in the Skies on KFI.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Well, just yesterday, an American Airlines plane headed to New
York City, I had to turn back around LAX. Flight
two seventy four left LAX just before five o'clock last night,
headed to JFK. Just after the takeoff, though, the pilots
turned around. They said there were reports of an odor
in the cabin reported to air traffic Control. They smelled

(07:24):
and tasted something man It prompted them to put on
their oxygen masks in the cockpit seems a little draumatic.
Now there's another great reason why there's a door there
between you and the pilots, because if you had seen
that the pilots were worried enough that they put on
their oxygen masks, you would have evacuated through your own

(07:45):
emergency shoot.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Americans said the aircraft involved was taken out a service
to be inspected by our maintenance team. But that's about
all the information we got.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
We did not find out what it was.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
If that well, and we've seen reports recently of toxic
fumes the in cabins, but it seems that it's much
more slowly developing than that when it just kind of
overtook them right away.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Do you judge the person who reclines in front of
you when you're on board of flying? Will you judge
the person more if you know that they have paid
to recline?

Speaker 4 (08:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, we actually when we talked about it this, I
think it was last week we saw this, and there
have been so many opportunities, are so many comments that
I have seen about this and this kind of a
story that even if you are a general recliner, right,
you don't mind imposing on someone else that's sitting behind you.

(08:48):
That even those people were a little bit taken aback
by the idea that it would be so aggressive for
you to pay to recline. Now, there are bigger framed people,
there are larger people who feel like that's the only
way they can get comfortable on an airplane.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
I get it, especially in a lung flight.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
If you want to sleep and you're a bigger person
and you're just your head's up against a person in
front of you, that sounds awful for them.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
It's not reclining, it's just having air to breathe. I
just I have never found comfort on an airplane. No.
I recline, not recline leaning up. It's tough.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
It is someone in the seat next to you, the
empty seat next.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
It'll be over at some point. Just get through it,
you know.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
But that the Canadian air a Canadian airline named west
Jet we talked about, was getting rid of reclining seats
in the regular economy seating, but that they would have
some seats that do recline if you're willing to pay
to sit in them. Some major Chinese airlines are trying
to get the Trump administration to ban them from Sorry

(09:54):
to abandon a plan to ban them from flying over
Russia as they fly into the United States, saying it's
going to increase flight times, that would raise fares, and
that could overall disrupt some of the routes. Air China
and China Southern Airways said the decision would adversely affect
a substantial number of passengers in the US and China,

(10:15):
about twenty eight hundred passengers, they said, scheduled to travel
right now during the peak holiday season of November one
to December thirty one, and they would need to be
rebooked and that could jeopardize their travel plans. The US
Department of Transportation is looking at banning Chinese airlines from

(10:36):
flying over Russia on routes to and from the United States,
saying that the reduced flight time puts American carriers at
a disadvantage because we don't fly over Russia because Russia
barred us from flying over way back in twenty twenty
two after we banned their flights when they decided to

(10:57):
invade Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
All right, well, my goodness, parenting is coming up. We
had a focus group about space warce justin Worsham had
some concerns about our pitch.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Good feedback, right, which is good? Sure, which is good.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
I need to, though, not ask him about that and
focus on parenting because that's what he's here to talk about, right, Right,
We're going to be talking about parenting mistakes that a
retired teacher saw a lot of. I kind of am
already prejudging this person. Why well, I mean the headline
being retired teacher saw a lot of parenting mistakes throughout

(11:38):
her career.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's like, I mean, I love.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Teachers, but I think if I was a parent and
a teacher was telling me something I was doing wrong
in the parenting world, that would piss me off. Like
if you had a judgment on how parenting my kid
is my kid's teacher, I don't know, I'd have a hard.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Time with that.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
I'm going to see my sister this weekend, and I
would be curious to ask her about she was a
teacher forever, she just retired for after a long career
as a teacher, what kind of interaction she had with
her kids teachers, I mean the ones that weren't in
her school. She was a junior high teacher, so the
elementary's teachers, the high school teachers, if my dad.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
And my dad taught in the city.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I never heard him talk about parenting other than there
were a lot of kids that needed school, that need
that didn't have great home lives, that like needed school,
needed people in their lives that were there in a
constant in the whole bit. But he would never judge
someone's parenting, I don't think. But who knows? Also fertility,

(12:42):
I love it when Justin talks about fertility.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
You think he's fertile? Why do you? Why would you
say he is? Two kids? It's men are always fertile,
aren't you? Are you fertile? So you die?

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Well?

Speaker 3 (12:55):
I don't mean that. I mean just that he's a
healthy sperm.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Not everything.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
I don't want to hear about Justin sperm you just
asked about.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
If you made it about Justin though, like he talks
about fertility, he's himself in there.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I don't need to hear about his sperm. Reminder that
tomorrow we're going to be bringing this show on the road.
Will be live at Bjay's Restaurant in brew House in
Huntington Beach tomorrow, the one on Beach Boulevards.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
He's already got questions.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
We'll be out there from nine to one tomorrow, So
come on out and say hi again. Bjay's Restaurant in
brew House on Beach Boulevard in Huntington Beach. It looks
like a Deborah mart Are you all right?

Speaker 3 (13:36):
You gonna turn that off? While you're chit chating?

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Speaker 4 (13:45):
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Speaker 3 (13:47):
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Speaker 1 (13:48):
Like I said, it's going to be really funny when
you start to remembering this conversation.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
I'm telling you, trust me.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
It's like when my husband got a tip to invest
it's in a little company called AOL and he didn't
do it.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Oh boy, I should appreciate you bringing it up. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
The Supreme Court DC appears inclined to limit the use
of the Voting Rights Act to try to force states
to draw electoral districts favorable to minority voters. And these
arguments that were heard today, most of the conservative justices
seem like that they would vote to effectively strike down
a black majority house district in Louisiana because it was
relying too heavily on race when it was drawn up.

(14:31):
The ruling for Louisiana could open the door for legislatures
to redraw congressional maps around the country, but specifically in
the South, potentially boosting even more Republican electoral prospects in
the closely divided House. So one of those things that again,
that's one of those decisions that is likely coming out
late in the Supreme Court term, which wouldn't be until

(14:54):
late spring.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Justin Worship is with us.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
He is host of a dad podcast and join us
to talk things parenting. And we've got an article here
about a retired teacher who is spilling all the tea,
as they say, five years ago, about parenting mistakes that
she saw go down throughout her career.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Now, is she an a hole or what?

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Just get out of the gates? Do we judge her
or do we like her?

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Go enjoy your retirement. Why are you throwing all these
parents under the bus?

Speaker 5 (15:24):
Well, in her defense, her daughter, I believe, is some
producer for the Today Show, and her daughter asked her
on TikTok and she's saying that over her years and
years of teaching that she probably taught about twelve hundred
students and interacted with two thousand parents, so therefore she's
a credible source. I've seen scientific studies that have less

(15:45):
of a sample size than what they're talking here. And
what she says is that parents the biggest mistake that
parents make is they try to make their kids something
that they're not, and they're not accepting enough about just
who their kid is. She has this kumbay a message
of just enjoy your kid and the person that they are.
And I mean I get it to a certain extent.

(16:07):
I think what she's really getting at is like, like
she uses the example, if your kid's not athletic, don't
try to make them athletics so they can get a scholarship. Like,
my sons are not academic. They're not they like to
have conversations. There aren't what you would call smart people. Yeah, yeah,
I mean, honestly, now here's the thing I would definitely
see that. I would say that again, they're kids, so

(16:29):
they're you know, you can't go toe to toe with
someone in their forties. But they are street smart. But
they are not book smart because that's not what appeals
to them. They are not like so I've always kind
of seen that in them. I'm like, you're probably gonna
have to own your own business because somebody else telling
you what to do is going to probably annoy you
on some level, and you're probably going to be wrong
to be annoyed by that, if I'm being honest with
my kid as well.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
But I don't know, there's a lot of smart kids
that are just not into school exactly just the way
it is. It's the way it's always been.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
There is a problem with kids.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
The kids that I know, and not all of are
built this way, but there are a lot of kids
that don't want to try new things. Some kids just
generally don't want to try new things, and they put
themselves in a corner without knowing what's out there, right,
I mean, as adults, we know what they're missing out on.

(17:18):
If they don't try sports, if they don't try music,
if they don't try whatever they're you know, whatever, you
would want them to at least dip their toe into
because they might they might find that thing that is
good for them. My daughter wasn't a huge, not super athletic,
and didn't really think that she could play volleyball because
she wasn't She wasn't the tall kid. She wasn't the tall,

(17:40):
skinny kid that she thought you had to be to
play volleyball and played all through high school and loved
it and had a great time. But wouldn't have done
that had we not. You know, hey, stick with it,
play another year, try something else, do it again. Put
yourself out there, you know, in a situation that you
might not be, you might not necessarily feel comfortable in,

(18:03):
but that we know that there is a potential reward
at the end of that.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
You're talking to me like you have a camera in
my house right now. This is very helpful to me,
so I appreciate you. My younger son has decided I have.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Been looking through your windows. I know if it was
really on camera.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
We don't see that as creepy but invested, and I
appreciate it, you.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
I wish I had more friends that would pay that
level of attention to what's going on, you know what
I mean. Don't judge people so much for being invasive.
If there's passion there, you know, be appreciative of it, right,
And that's what I am for you, Gary, because my son.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Keep your clothes on when you're out there, though.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Right irrelevant to me I've never seen him, so it's
not like it's hurting me or my family. Right, neighbors
had questions, but I mean, not a fan, not a fan,
not the best people.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
So what's going on in the home.

Speaker 5 (18:48):
So my son, younger son has decided, and I for
anybody who knows my younger son, please like keep this
between us. Just got it?

Speaker 4 (18:59):
How do I even be allowed to get outside?

Speaker 5 (19:01):
I am so stupid, No wonder My kids aren't academics anyway.
He wants to play football, and I think it's because
his girlfriend's dad like played for UCLA and loves football,
and her older brothers like love football.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
And what a season, what a turn of events for
UCLA football.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
I don't know, that's right.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
I mean they fired their coach and now they're winning
against real big programs.

Speaker 5 (19:26):
Here, right, Good for them. I love that for them.
So but it's this thing of like I tried to
make watch it. There was when they were little they
would watch the games with me, and then they got
older and they didn't. So then there was this period
of time where I was making them come out of
the rooms and we would all sit down and watch
a football game together as a family. And now this
guy has a cute daughter with dimples, and it's like, well,
now I.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Want to play. I got to get in I love football.
I watch football while I do homework. Now and I'm wrong,
I'm now.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
You have taught me that I am wrong, because in reality,
he wants to try something different. And I didn't tell
him no, I just was trying to prepare, and I
said things like, you haven't made it through a show
choir season without six to eight weeks of physical theret.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
It's also an interesting pivot from show choir to football.
How big is this kid?

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Not bigger?

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Okay, he is skin and bone like his father was.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Well he is fifteen, fourteen fourteen, Okay, well of course
he's Yeah, he's he just grew probably and now he's
got I mean.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Now's the time. Yeah, it could be the time to
get in there.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
Like lots of the parent it's funny when you own
all your parents are in show choir and they hear
that your son wants to play football.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
They're like four kids in the entire two hundred.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
And fifty three kids that are chow choir that play
football as well, or and then others play basketball. Blah blah, blah.
But so my point is is that it's a lot.
And they were like, oh, we aren't you worried about
the concussion stuff, And I'm like, no, no, I'm not
weirdly enough.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
That's not what I'm worried about.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
I'm worried about that he has this perception of what
it's going to be, and that he's going to sign
up for something great for him and then not want
to do it after three weeks, and I'm going to
have to be like, well, you're stuck.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Like there's that the routine, you know, I still disagree.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Show choir to hook up with the hot girl and
then you pivot to football to impress the father.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah, love that kid.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
And I think, if I'm being really, really really honest,
I think the real reason I'm having a problem with
it is that this is gonna sound so late. My
son is more than enough. I really believe the kid
likes him.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Now, now this is your problem with it. You try
to get him into football. He didn't listen to you,
but he's listening to this kid's dad.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
But also, my son is more than enough, and the
dad already likes him. The girlfriend already said he has
the record of her boyfriend so far.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Of dad like signing off faster than anybody.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Can provide skills that every young person needs any team.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
And if nothing else, this is the golf rule. It's
a different sport, but it's the golf rule. You gotta
know how to play. You don't have to you don't
have to do it well. Yeah, you have to know
how to play.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
He's a smart kid that way.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
And if you play, if you play football, if you
play any of these sports, once you know, you know,
you go far. You know when you you can appreciate
what you're watching on television, you can have the conversations
with people when you're watching at a bar, so.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
You know how to avoid the hits. Right, I see
him as a dB. I see Jack as a dB.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
I hope. So that's what I played. Yeah, see this
could be great. Thanks guys.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
More with justin we come back.

Speaker 6 (22:15):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
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Speaker 7 (22:29):
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(22:50):
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(23:11):
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Speaker 4 (23:29):
I think I.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
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much pressure on myself and messed up. Didn't just go
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so successful on that platform, and I can't get a hook, like,
I can't get nothing. I've tried discounts, I've tried everything,

(23:50):
and nobody's buying what I'm selling.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Foot stuff. Have you done foot stuff?

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Oh? So much foot stuff?

Speaker 3 (23:55):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
I think I've done foot stuff that is illegal in
most countries.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Fee it looks like I remember they're very harry.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
Yeah, I've waxed them nothing. Yeah for my only fans?

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, oh you do?

Speaker 4 (24:05):
You do before is and after? So that's a thing
for some people out here.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
We talk a lot about the keeping up with the
Jones' attitude when it comes to parenting. This is how
about getting parent being a parent in the first place?

Speaker 5 (24:17):
Yeah, so they it's this, This lot of this is
kind of blew my mind. So I hope that everybody
else finds this just as interesting. What they're talking about
here is that they're they've zeroed in on the idea
that the reason the birth rate is decreasing is because
people are finding it harder and harder to keep up
with other parents in providing for their kids. So we've
talked about how the if the birth rate doesn't rise

(24:39):
to almost three, uh, then then we're going to have
a population problem in the long term where there's not
going to be enough people on the planet. Like it's
almost it's a long term plan for extinction, I guess.
And so right now we're at a two point seven
birth rate per person or whatever. And uh so this
is saying that part of the reason we thought it
was because of the cost of kids, But what they're
saying is that it's not only just the cost of kids,

(25:02):
but it's like the effort that you have to put
into and the cost of doing everything that you can
for your kids, to the point where the government in
China got involved and taxed after school tutoring programs like
California does cigarettes and gasoline as a deterrent, like to

(25:22):
keep people from signing their kids up from Isn't this weird?
Like this means that there is a global movement to
stop excelling at things to hinder people from getting better
and performing at their best. Am I crazy that that's
what I'm seeing in this.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I guess it's when.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
I was gonna say it's a product of overpopulation period,
like we've reached this point where the struggle isn't enough.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Sort of making up a struggle to have a struggle.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
It's also interesting that they said that twenty percent of
the population in China is over the age of sixty five,
and they feel like that is a bad thing, and
so I just looked at it out of curiosity. In
the US, it's eighteen percent. I was shocked. In La
County in California, it's fourteen percent. In the state of California,
fourteen percent of the population is sixty five years or older.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
Wouldn't you think that number would be bigger?

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yes, just based on the Yeah, yeah, are we really.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Are like forgetting our elderly, Like we're just not counting
them anymore?

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. I stayed at
home for a year to protect those people. What the
hell are you telling me now?

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Your party nobody's say you didn't do your part.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Doing grocery shopping trips. I did not make to save
those people.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
So again they just I just I think it's interesting
because what they're they're talking about doing the same thing
in the US of trying to put basically, find some
way to regulate what people could do to try to
set themselves up for success, and they're doing it as
a way of saving the population, to make it easier
for people to make people and afford them. Wow, right,

(27:14):
this is like weird, this could be a vertical short.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
Just now realize.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Okay, listen, I know you want to get in on it.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
I went back in, but then think about it like
post apocalyptic you know what I mean? This is like
what's that justin Timberlake movie, like in time right where
they live in a world where they're.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Getting time on it.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
But we're not engaging another hypothetical vertical shorts right now?

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Okay, all right, you're now who's going to be sorry?

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah, now, who's going to be sorry? Don't close the
door on love.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
I'm taking this.

Speaker 7 (27:42):
Sorry, I'm taking this to Conye taking this to the
Conway Show.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
He knows he knows humor.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Play routine.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
I said that was a failure of mine. Why would
I and why would you kick me? Unless you knew
I had a good idea and now you're jealous of it.
You missed your opportunity, miss Welcome to the industry, con.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
Trout, all right, show business isn't for everyone.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
All right, we'll talk trending when we come back to
Gary and Shannon.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
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