Supporting Your Kids Into Their 30s

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
A M six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
All right, yeah, I'm still processing. It just doesn't feel real.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Is it the pumpkins spice or the engagement? Which one
are you per?

Speaker 2 (00:18):
The pumpkin spice engagement? I mean that ring. I know
that you're trying to figure out how much it costs.
It smells like pumpkin spice. I guarantee you they knew
what they were doing.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah. Well, the marketing of this relationship has been brilliant.
The NFL has used it, the New Heights podcast has
used it. A lot of people have made a lot
of money off this love story. It's brilliant. I mean
the moments after this engagement post went up, the Ralph

(00:52):
Lauren black and white striped dressed tailor war in that
picture sold out. What Yeah, I think you're underestimating the
financial implications of this relationship. For what everything they touch
turns to sold for what? What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Okay, if my daughter, for example, said to me, Hey, Dad,
I just bought this dress online, and I would say
that's a nice dress. What about this dress? And she
said it's the one that Taylor wore. I would fall asleep.
It means I would induce unconsciousness on myself.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
However I needed to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Taylor, there's a baseball bat on the side of my
own head. I'd knock myself out to stop hearing the
rest of that. Taylor Swift means a lot to people.
Travis Kelsey means a lot to people. A lot of
people live for the Kansas City Chiefs lot. He has
brought joy to a lot of homes that felt no joy,
no super Bowls for the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Travis Kelsey brought them one. Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes
brought them a few. He means a lot to a
lot of people emotionally. She means a lot to people emotionally.
This is somebody who has sang through her adolescence, through
her early relationships in her twenties, through finding fame, you know,

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trying to get it, making her own road because no
one's playing her records, you know, going through growing up. Really,
people grew up with Taylor Swift and with all her emotions,
they felt the same things, they had the same struggles.
They just went and relived it. All through eras to
all of those eras of their own personal lives. This

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is a couple that is bonded emotionally to people, so
they want a part of it. They want to they
it goes straight to the straight to their blood. You know,
I'm trying to think of an equivalent for you, but
you don't feel things, so it's hard to figure it out.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
If there's more hot details that come out of the engagement,
we should.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
I just therefore, they make a lot of people a
lot of money. The NFL's no stranger to this. Yeah,
they're very happy. I mean the I mean women already
were obviously big NFL consumers, but she brought in a
whole new slew of them that had no interest in football.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, and still probably don't. They just want to see
her at the game.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
But she's made football cool for that group. I mean,
she's gotten into it. She didn't really know much, and
now she knows things I assume.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well, I hate to turn away, but we do have
some we do. It's time for swampoint.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar.
And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, we got.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
The real problem is that our leaders are dune.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
The other side never quits what what. I'm not going anywhere,
So that now you train the squad, I can imagine
what can be and be unburdened by what has been.
You know, Americans have always been going act President. They're
not stupid.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Have the people voted for you with not swamp watch?
They're all countoyed.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
One of the biggest headlines out of DC is a
post from last night President Trump put up with a
letter on truth social He said that he's going to
be removing Fed Reserve Governor Lisa Cook, effective immediately. This
is one of the members of the Fed Reserve Board,
chaired by Jerome Powell. In the letter, the President wrote, quote,

(04:41):
pursuing to my authority under Article two of the Constitution
of the United States and the Federal Reserved Act of
nineteen thirteen, as amended, you are hereby removed from your
position on the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve,
effective immediately. In that letter, he cited a criminal referral
from Fed Housing Finance Agent Director Bill Poulty. Poulty accuses

(05:03):
Lisa Cook of mortgage fraud, but it's his opinion.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
So far, we have a Federal Reserve governor who is
in charge of setting interest rates, running this entire economy
right hand to Jerome Powell, committing in my view, mortgage fraud.
This can't happen. I think it gives the President enormous
cause to fire her.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Again.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
The president can fire somebody with cause. It's questionable whether
or not this is enough cause, especially considered she has
yet to be actually charged with any sort of any
sort of crime here.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
These are just allegations at this point.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
The other thing is President Trump had talked about changing
possibly the name of the Defense Department.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
You started it up by saying the Department of Defense.

Speaker 6 (05:48):
And somehow it didn't sound good to him.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
It didn't sound good defense.

Speaker 7 (05:53):
What do we defense?

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Why are we defense? So it used to be called
the Department of War, and it had a stronger and
as you know, we.

Speaker 8 (06:01):
Won World War One, we won World War two, we
won everything.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Now we have a Department of Defense with defenders. I
don't know if you, if you people want to standing
behind me, if you take a little vote, if you
want to change it back to what it was. We
used to win wars all the time. That's okay with me.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Not not a football fan, because you know that you
do not win war without the strongest defense. Defense wins championships.
It's not just for football, it is also for you know, war.
It's true, you can go anyone can go on the offensive,
but the reason that they don't is because you have
a strong they don't hit you, is because you've got
a strong defense.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Sometimes the best, the best offense is a good defense.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Sure right, I don't think that makes a whole I mean,
I think that's more in war than it is in football.

Speaker 7 (06:52):
But m.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Or, the best defense is a good offense. So we'll
just table right. Well, you know, did you hear this
bit about Alex Padilla running for governor? Now, Alex Padilla,
the one who made the big hay over the Christinoam
trip to FBI and you know, caused a big ruckus.
Oh oh oh, he decided to get arrested at the

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news conference. Yeah, trying to parlay that in the tears
and the tears and the tears, trying to parlay that
into a bid to become California governor. Well, that.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
I don't think that well. I don't think he's got
the name recognition, even though he's a sitting senator from
the great state of California.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
I don't think he's got name recognition. Right, we'll see.
I mean, his thing is also going to be he's
going to be the face or he's going to try
and be the face of Gavin Newsom's whole redistricting effort.
That's how he's going to position himself as if he's
the face of the redistricting effort, then he can get

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the momentum to run for governor.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Could we just get a governor that wont to help
the state of California. We just get a governor who
wants to fix the problems with this state, make it
better than it currently is.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
That would be so nice. No, we didn't. That's silly.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
We didn't get to that poll. We'll do it a
little bit later about the new poll. How many Californians
are undecided in the in the governor's race. Also, Love
Island a psychologist's view of why people love love.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Are we really going to be spending time on Love
Island when we have Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce to
perseverate about a great word.

Speaker 8 (08:39):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Pumpkin Spice Latte, Travis and Taylor Engagement Day.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
I don't know how we can out do this day.
This day has been outdone, delightful day. I do have
Kenas on team divorce already. Yeah, she's ready, she is
ready for this thing to just fall out of the sky.
I do have a quick gas go around, though. We
need to get to the question is.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
What is the real problem? Okay, what is the real problem?

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Here's the example. Here's the example, all right, domasses.

Speaker 9 (09:24):
It gives a point about a goddamn logo of a
place like Cracker Barrel.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Who's been there in ten years?

Speaker 9 (09:31):
Their labor has changed five times since it opened in
nineteen twenty. This last iteration was from just the late seventies.
So get off your high work, got stupid logos?

Speaker 1 (09:43):
What do you think the real problem? What's he really mad?
Really upset? No, he came in so high.

Speaker 10 (09:52):
I've been to Crocker Barrow a handful of times and
it's like so many choices and it's confusing. You don't
know where to attack a buffet from like they just
need I don't know, more of a cohesive like walking
path or blessings on the walls.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Oh no, Keiana, what do you think that guy's problem is? Well,
I've never been to Cracker Barrel. You're part of it.

Speaker 11 (10:13):
So I think he just woke up on the wrong side.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Of the bed cannon. I think that he's dealing with
financial problems in his personal life. I think that maybe
something didn't pan out. He was expecting a windfall of
sorts and it didn't pan out. He got real excited

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about it, thought it was going to happen, and then
it didn't, and he's just angry.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I think he looked around and realized nobody likes him.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Oh, and he acted out, took it out on us.
Is that what happened when you realize no one likes you? Yeah?
Very similar Love Island.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
I told you I experience with Love Island where I
started it.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Nieces that had to come into town. I was defending
that man. It hurt people, hurt people. He's clearly hurt.
He's clearly alone and hurt. You know, we've got to
lift him up.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
A licensed psychologist was asked specifically about Love Island.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Now this is.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
How do you describe the show? It's a dating show.
I suppose reality show, but it's Elmer watched it? Have
Elmer describe it?

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Am I correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
It's a lot of the half clad, very attractive people,
or most.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Of the time they're very attractive people, right.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Taking part in like like.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Frat party kind of behavior. That's good. I like that. Yeah,
so you wire up and then they break up the
pears and then there's the jealousy you with new people.
There's a group of girls and a group of guys
and then they all seemingly get along, but when they
start hooking up with the same people, there are problems
that arise there, and that's where you get all the drama.

(12:02):
It's right about that.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
It strips everybody of the modern basic comforts. There's no phones, morality,
there's no privacy, morality, morality, unlimited booze, unlimited booze. So
they you know it, it's gonna change, it's gonna give
sort of an artific maybe it's more natural, a more
natural look at how relationships would start in the wild.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
No, but it's producers that are awful people manipulating manipulating
young people with alcohol and sex.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Today The Today's Show spoke with a license psychologist about
how the environment of Love Island would affect the people's
minds and their decision making processing, and why they literally
have to employ mental health care professionals on the set
of the show.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Is that not an indication?

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Like listen, there's a reason the SPCA got involved with
movie making, especially old westerns, because they were killing horses
in order to make movies. And nobody really liked that
dirty part of movie making, but it was a fact
of the way that they did it. They weren't treating
animals the way that they're supposed to. Now they have

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very specific rules about animals whenever they're on set, if
they're real animals, who can ride them, who can train them,
how long they can work, just like I don't know.
That was a sign that there was something going on
on the set that was unredeemable, and in this case
it should be a sign as well to the producers,
except they're making money, and why would they want to

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change it?

Speaker 1 (13:41):
She said.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
The most disorienting aspect of life in the Love Island
villa is the complete absence of time cues without clocks.
Without calendars, these people all lose the sense of how
long they've actually known each other. And she says, when
time is distorted like that, a day can feel like
a week. So you think you have this really deep

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bond with a person when you've only been around them
for a day or two.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Wow, that's intense.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
And I think there's a weird thing about where you
also don't get to see them in their life in
the Yeah, in the context of they got home from
work and it was a rough day in the you know, that's.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
What I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Class radio station Taylor Stimps and you know what I mean, Like,
people need to fall in love in real life usually,
you know, not manufactured life like you have on a
reality show.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Or that you could have with you have a crazy
amount of money. You know that it's real, that it's
not real. No, it can be real, it's just not
what normal people have. Normal people fall in love. And
that's the thing with these reality shows is even if
they do think they fell in love on The Bachelor
or Love Island or Love is Blind, what have you,
when they go back to real life, it's often the

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end of the relationship because you have real life things
like well, who's going to move where? Or what are
we gonna have for dinner tonight? Or you're a messy person,
I'm a clean person, or I'm I need the bathroom
in the morning. I need the bathroom in the morning.
You know, it's like all the little things that you
learn to work around in a relationship or work through
or what have you. They haven't done that, and they're

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already engaged. So it's problematic. I just think that nobody
on that show is ready for any sort of commitment,
let alone marriage.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
That's true, there's very I mean even the Bachelor or
with Bachelorette franchise.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
That none of those I know.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
They like to think that it was that it was
intended to end in It's intended to end in a proposal,
which ninety nine percent of the time it does.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
But how many of those weddings last our message It
doesn't end in a proposal a lot of the time.
In recent years. I mean when it first started twenty
five years ago, people were still getting married at twenty
four years old. Now people are not getting married that
young a lot of people. So it ends with this like, well,
we were gonna, you know, commit to getting engaged that

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kind of a thing. They also point to the.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Lack of digital You can't have your phone there, there's
no computers or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
You have to bond with these people, you have to,
but it.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Allows for a deeper connection, quicker if you're not distracted
about this stuff. Yeah, but then that gives you this
distorted sense of you know, to go back to the
time element, this distorted sense of I've known them all
my life when you've known them since you know breakfast.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Well, yes, and there was one thing that I saw,
not one thing, as several things that I think it was.
Love is blind. When they're given back their phones, and
that is an important point in a relationship these days.
How much time does your significant others spend on their phone?
And that can be a real problem if one of
you is a I don't, you know, touch my phone

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at home, or I don't scroll, I don't whatever, and
the other person is constantly attached to it, constantly scrolling,
constantly doing stuff. That is a new fissier fissier in
the relationship, great word that they have to work through.
It's also unlikely that any of us dated in a
competitive environment.

Speaker 8 (17:11):
Right.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
That adds a whole another layer, because if it's competitive,
I will fight for a complete toad of a person
to win, to win.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
And well, I've seen that, We've seen that in these
shows where you're like, why is she?

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Why is she with this guy? Why is he picking her?

Speaker 2 (17:30):
But very few of us would ever be in a
situation where a prospective partner is dating two or three
people that you know of, right and in these shows
that you live with, yeah, and then you're trying to
you know, you're trying to win out.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
So Iley watched like a couple episodes of Love Island,
but Elmer I got the vibe that some of the couples,
even like the couples that first coupled up, were in
it to win it for the money, and we're pretending
that they had a deeper bond or they were trying
to get America to fall in love with them as
a couple to win the money right on the nose.

Speaker 10 (18:04):
You have those relationships that start off way too strong
and they're like I met my person. I'm just like, bro,
it's the first day. There is no way. Yeah, they
make it till the end.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah no, wait, I didn't realize that there was a
money aspect. I guess it makes yeah, perfect sense. But
I didn't know in America has to vote on the couple.
I think that they want to stay on the show.
It's a whole thing.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
I know. Listen, that's what When is the Spaceship coming?
Where are we on that countdown? October? Jesus, We've got
so much longer to go. It's going to ruin Halloween.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Week seven. Let's just say week seven. Oh okay, Gary,
that makes more sense.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
It does.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
When we come back, we'll talk about the supporting your
kids into their thirties? How long will you support your
adult children? And have you found yourself in that position?

Speaker 1 (18:54):
What have you done? Do you have rules? You can
let us know on the talkback feature on the iHeart.
Don't you kind of have to do it forever? You
don't have to, probably should, but I mean he made
that baby. I'm assuming.

Speaker 8 (19:12):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Taylor has found her endgame. All the headlines, all the
headline makers are rolling around in love in a field
of flowers and forest. They've been sitting on this one
for a while. They have the engagement ring is stunning,
there's all these conspiracy theories about who knew what, when
were the pictures taken, when did it happen? People talking

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about the evolution of Travis Kelsey's hair. He had his
hair cut for training camp. They believe that it happened
in the past month because his hair is short, because
it's longer now. That Ralph Lauren halt her dress that's
sold out within moments of the post on the Ralph
Lauren website. That's a four hundred dollars dress. That's a

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four hundred dollars dress. It's sold out. Let's see here.
I was trying to get more on this this engagement ring.
All we know is that Travis Kelcey helped design it.

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They say designed the ring, designed the ring. He helped
design it. We all saw how it goes on The
Bachelor with Neil Lane. You just pick it. The jewelry
designers is what do you think of these? And you
go that one looks nice luxury designs retailing upwards of
thirty four thousand dollars that the engagement rings there that

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would be is that how much is a rich people's
engagement ring? That's a I would say, I don't know.
I don't know either. I've never been a rich people,
so I don't know what's the same. Yeah, my ring
is a family heirloom. I don't even know how twenty
thousand dollars, ten thousand dollars, I don't know. I think
that's cooler when it's second heirloom and you pass it down. Yeah,

(21:09):
that's that's really cool.

Speaker 7 (21:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I always liked this ring, and I thought, well, what why,
why have it go to waste? Right? What do you
what else are you going to do with it? Wow?
I've never recently or his family, my family. I have
no resentment that my husband buy me a diamond ring
fifteen years ago. It doesn't sound like, oh it's true love.

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We don't need diamonds, tells me he loves me in
other ways. He got me a new shower head. You
know that's huge with diamonds. No. Oh no, no, I looked,
but not one. What are we doing financial support into adulthood? Yes?
Have people talked to us about this on the talk back? Yeah?
Where did they come down?

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Well, it's it's interesting to think about the economics of
family now versus say, twenty five or thirty years ago.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Six.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
According to Pew Research, Center, sixty percent of parents with
adult children up to thirty four years old eighteen to
thirty four said they have helped their kids financially in
the previous year. Parents are finding that rising expenses that
trail them from their child's birth through college are now
extending well into adulthood, for example, housing debt, payments, groceries.

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A third of younger millennial home buyers got help with
down payment from friends or family, and it extends past
that daycare bills that are picked up by grandma and grandpa,
roof replacements, vacations. One financial advisor described to forty year
old woman still in her parents' phone plan. The phone
plan thing, I think is interesting because the way a
lot of them are structured now, it makes more sense

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to keep, you know, to keep a family of four
or six or whatever on the same phone plan because
it's cheaper. The carrier wants to keep you, so they're
going to, you know, make you deal to keep all
six lines on one phone plan. Now, if you're picking
up the bill for it versus your kid reimbursing you
or something like that, sometimes it's just easier to drop

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your forty bucks or fifty bucks a month and not
worry about keeping tabs on that sort of thing. But
a lot of people had said that they have gone
through this issue of whether or not they're going to
you know, continue to give their kids money well into adulthood.

Speaker 6 (23:27):
Morning.

Speaker 11 (23:28):
My general rule for my three boys was, if you
go to college, you do not have to pay rent.
My oldest decided not to go to college, moved out
when he was nineteen, and is now married, so he's
on his own. My middle is in the military, probably
makes more than me, so he is financially on his own.
And then my youngest is the only one who went

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to school to be an EMT. Next step is medic
next step is fire, so he does not pay rent.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, goodics, Well done, mom. That was a rule too
for us.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
If you want to go to college, will cover your expenses,
And if you want to go to junior college and
take a few credits, we'll cover some of your expenses.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
That was the rule in our place.

Speaker 12 (24:08):
Yeah, I'm supporting kids. I have three adult children, daughters
thirty six, thirty three and a soun'm twenty six, about
the same as Gary's. The only support I do. I
have him on my auto insurance for his rates. To
go down, but he does pay me when the premiums
come due. Other than that, I only support him with love.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, that's not I don't consider that financial support. I
mean you're making a good economic decision by keeping him on.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Here your plan to make it cheaper.

Speaker 13 (24:34):
Hey, Gary and Shannon? Yeah, Gary, we do it kid
by kid. It just depends on this situation and what
they're going through and what's happening. And in fact, the
other kids understand that, and sometimes the other kids help
out their brothers and sisters.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
If you good job dat, if you're in a place
to do that, that's a great Yeah as a brother, sister, whatever,
to do that for your siblings.

Speaker 14 (25:01):
Gary and Shannon. Yeah, I do help out my adult
kids good. But I believe that family is very important.
And I've had kids on drugs and everything, and I've
always stood by them until they can get to be better.
I've also had the privilege have taken care of my
adult in laws when they got sick and have my
wife to help them out and stuff. So I think

(25:22):
family is very important. I think maybe sometimes we tend
to make it too simple yes or no?

Speaker 7 (25:28):
All right?

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Thanks?

Speaker 2 (25:29):
By interesting because I think that in those instances where
you do have that history of something outside of a
financial crisis that you have to help somebody through, you'd
be much more willing to help them financially maybe. I mean,
you've already done, You've done more than just the money
aspect of it.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
I think you have to have the rule though, if
you're going to give money to family that you don't
expect it back. Yeah, that's the only way to go
into it, because if you do you expect it back,
that's going to always going to resent them, and you're
going to be disappointed. It's going to cause problems. So
you got to look at it as a gift.

Speaker 7 (26:08):
Good morning, Gary and Shannon. Is Bill and Heather from Naples, Florida.
We hope you are well on the topic of whether
or not to provide financial assistance to adult children. We
have for both of our.

Speaker 15 (26:22):
Adult sons towards the down payment of their purchase of
their first home, with the understanding that the money that
they were once spending on rent would go into a
savings account.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
I know a lot of people who have done that.
If you are renting to your kid, or at eighteen,
your kids still living at home and you want them
to pay rent. If you don't need that money, it
often just goes into a savings account.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
When they move out. Here's the big gifts, and what
a fun surprise for that. Yeah, if they don't.

Speaker 6 (26:51):
I have three children ranging from twenty nine to thirty six.
They were all supported through their bachelor degrees and then
they were on their own. We do not provide monthly
support to any child, but if a child has a need,
or if we perceive a need, we may send them

(27:12):
money as a bonus period. We figured it is getting
their inheritance early.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Now.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
I don't know anybody who sends monthly payments to their
kid to an adult child, but if they have asked,
I know that.

Speaker 15 (27:27):
Hey Garan Shannon, Yes, I supported age twenty thirty, forty,
whatever it takes.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
I have a forty year old that lives with me.

Speaker 15 (27:34):
He helps support us as well, you know, because the
state of California is sober priced.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
And I got a thirty five year old that's probably going.

Speaker 7 (27:41):
To move back in with us as well.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
So yes, bull House.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Hey Gary Shann Cheetolier, So I got a thirty year
old daughter that she has a career, give me a
granddaughter and that's going good. My son is twenty five
years old with the girl fangles to do the land
every week, these video games all night long, and won't
go to school or get a real job. I got

(28:07):
my seventeen year old daughter about to graduate. Yay, Yes,
that's support him till I die.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
All right, we'll take more of your calls out. Al So,
I got a new figure on this engagement ring, and
you're not gonna freaking believe it.

Speaker 8 (28:21):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
The ring is an antique elongated cushion that weighs in
at about eight carrots. He estimated the stone, which is
set in Victorian style gold mounting, likely cost around one
hundred thousand, five hundred and fifty thousand, five hundred and
fifty thousand dollars. Wow, five hundred and fifty thousand dollars,

(28:56):
he said. You can see the antique style, the yellow
gold mounting, the need point prongs with some diamonds on
the shoulder, the engravings on the shoulder. It's really something amazing,
he said. The rarity of the stone is what makes
it stand out. Is its favorite ring he's seen so far.
This year. It's very unique. It's not something you'll see
on anyone else's hand. Well, no, s Benjamin. It's five

(29:17):
hundred and fifty thousand dollars, Benjamin.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
If you did see that on someone else's hand, I'd
steal it, get your money back.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
I'd kill them and I'd put their body in the desert. No,
that was too much. It's a little deep, a little deep.
But I mean, you're just asking for a theft.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
At five hundred and fifty thousand. Yeah, I don't know
if that's the way you should look at it.

Speaker 9 (29:39):
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Love is love. I love love. Love is great love.

Speaker 8 (29:42):
Love.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Everybody loves, there loves.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
We're talking about giving your kids financial assistance into their
adulthood inflation adjusted. In inflation adjusted terms, Americans are earning
eighteen percent more than they did in nineteen eighty. The
cost of housing has gone up four hundred percent, and.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
So is the cost of a coffee in the morning.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Medical care seven hundred percent. Tuition in childcare have increased
more than tenfold. So do you help out your adults
children financially?

Speaker 16 (30:19):
Garry and Shannon, I disagree with all these adults that
are providing for their kids. They're just enabling them, and damn,
I'd like to be one of their kids. He'll mooch
out for you as long as I can. I had
a paper route when I was a kid, and I
had to work for everything that I got, from my car,
my apartment, to my house everything. I don't agree with

(30:41):
this parenting enabling their kids.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Well, he sounds like a happy, well adjusted adult. So
we taught our.

Speaker 17 (30:49):
Kids about financial responsibility from a super young age. And
so they are thirty five and almost thirty and they
have been supporting themselves since they got done with their schooling,
and we made concessions so that.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
We were able to pay for their.

Speaker 6 (31:11):
Education, and my husband worked over time to make that happen.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Okay, let's go back to what that one guy said,
which was family is ultimately the important thing. So I
don't like the idea of giving my kids money just
to give them money or just at any you know,
any whim that they go, hey, I got a go
borrow five hundred bucks or one thousand bucks. But in
the event that they needed it, they should always know

(31:37):
that that we will do whatever we can to be
the backstop right to prevent them from whatever going into poverty. That,
but it's not, but to try to make sure that
it's not enabling, like our happy friend was saying, Yeah,
I mean that's the decision every parent has to make

(31:57):
and in each instance, and like you said at the
beginning of the show, according to each child.

Speaker 18 (32:03):
Also, I'm not the parent of an adult, but I
am an adult who doesn't have parents that have ever
helped And I can just say that there are many,
many times in my life that if my parents have
stepped in and helped me, I would actually be farther
ahead than I am now. So a little bit of
help from your parents when you're an adult could go

(32:23):
a really, really long way. I'll always remember that from
my child's.

Speaker 19 (32:28):
Interesting Yeah, I got a twenty three year old at home.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
He lives there rent free.

Speaker 10 (32:33):
I pay for his cell phoo and bill and his
car insurance.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Get twenty bucks a day for allowing still to get food.

Speaker 16 (32:41):
Makes piece all days a struggle with DJ.

Speaker 7 (32:44):
We're just trying to get him motivated.

Speaker 19 (32:46):
He does not want to work nine to five, So yeah,
I support him still and hopefully something will happen soon.

Speaker 9 (32:54):
Anyway, have a great day.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
That would be a tough one when your kid has
an interest and wants to make a living out of it.
I struggling DJ. Yeah, Like I remember I loved radio,
and the idea was that I would get a full
time job out of college and i'd work as a
news reporter because that was a full time job availability.
And it didn't come for a couple months, and I

(33:17):
remember my parents being like, Okay, how long do you
give this radio thing? Because it's not a classic nine
to five job with a pension and all the things
that they had right and that their parents advocated for,
and that is stable. Your parents want you to be stable,
they want you to be happy, and stability gives you
that financial stability, and I understand all of it. It
would be a hard thing for me, even not even

(33:40):
being in that generation, if I had a kid and
they were like, I want to make you know, origami
cranes and I want to sell them, and I'd be like,
that's so cool. I love that, but no, that's not
going to be a living. But this is what I love.
This is my passion, is what I want to do.
I mean that would be a really hard thing to say, well,
you know, to crush the dreams of your child.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, but with reality I mean the hammer of reality,
which is that's a hobby that eventually could turn into
your profession, but that's not what is going to pay
the bills.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Or because you do have them to give up on
what makes them happy, but you want them to earn
a living, you.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Got to tell them they have to then adjust what
their lifestyle is going to be. Like you're not gonna
you know, you're not going to drive a brand new
car while you're making origami swans, even if they're the best.

Speaker 19 (34:31):
Hey Dary, Hey Shannon CBC here once again.

Speaker 10 (34:34):
Yeah, I've got my son, you know, he's.

Speaker 19 (34:36):
Twenty seven, but nurse at home, but he helps out
pops you know.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
When I need it.

Speaker 19 (34:41):
But I don't press him. He's got a lot of stuff.
He's getting his act together, been through a lot. But
but yeah, I don't press them on money. I also
got my stepdaughter for a previous from my ex wife. There,
she's getting her act together. I don't press her. She
just needs to get a job, keep going to school.
So anyways, you guys have a great day.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Thanks, thank you. Good perspective to you.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Up next, we're going to be talking about our trending
stories a little bit more about the.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Of course, the Taylor Swift s Tarver. It's just Kelsey
things well just it's the latest. Details come along as
they come along. As the developing story continues to develop,
it does. It continues to develop. There are details that
continue to come out with the latest that that ring
is five hundred and fifty thousand dollars potentially according to
one expert.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Continuing our theme of love the marriage game plan, right,
this is.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
For real, man. I mean I think I think that
Taylor and Travis are really in love to you. I
think that that they think they are. I hope they are. Yeah,
I think it's beautiful. The things they say about each
other are really nice. That's what makes me concerned.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
It's not really Yeah, it's like the people on social
media that are too effusive about their I've been.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Married nineteen years to this wonderful gentle man. No, there's that.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Like you said earlier, fissures Gary Channon will continue right
after this.

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