February 5, 2025 • 30 mins
Gary and Shannon have the latest stories out of Washington D.C. during Swamp Watch. Gary and Shannon also bring in their friend, Justin Worsham, to talk all things parenting.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty The Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, the Chiefs are pursuing history. Saquon Barkley,
Jalen Hurts. The Eagles stand in their way. Chiefs will
try to become the first team to win three straight
Super Bowls when they face the Eagles coming up on Sunday.
It's a rematch from a couple of years ago when
the Eagles almost did it, only to watch Mahomes, of course,
snatch it away from the From from the Eagles thirty
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eight to thirty five. How do you choose who to
root for? I mean, you have not the chief Eagles, right,
That's just it. It's not the Chiefs process.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I mean, it's not that you hate the Chiefs or
you hate excellence, or you hate that Patrick Mahomes is
so good and squirrely and that he's actually a runner.
You can hate Travis Kelcey and all the attention he
and Taylor Swift get, but it's not about that.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
For me.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It's just I'm just ready for something, for something new,
and is it the Eagles no, but at least that's
a relatively less hurt then the Chiefs winning again. Part
of my whole thing is that I've seen the Chiefs
beat my team, both of my teams repeatedly, sometimes twice
a year with the Chargers, and I go to Arrowhead
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every year for pain and then I pay exorbitant amounts
of money to watch the forty nine Ers loose to
them in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I still don't hate the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I just I'm tired of them. Painting is not a
rational feeling for people you don't know, or a football team,
or laundry. To use the Seinfeld example, you're rooting for laundry.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
You do not have to pay anything to go to
my house.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
In fact, you're think about how cheap that's going to be.
You're paying me, right, Oh, I do use some money. Actually,
I mean I'm bringing the midget over.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I don't think that's a great idea, and I don't
think you should refer to your husband that way.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Hey, Gary and Shannon Mike from the High Desert.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
I love it when Shannon gets riled up about stuff,
even when it's so small.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
It's great.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Guys, have a great day.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Thanks for thanks for putting down your chips while you
make our leave the talk back.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
That's nice.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Oh my god, Shannon, this is a Jennifer from Chula Vista.
I freaking love you, dude. You are so authentic, so
freaking funny.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
I don't know if it's because you are on dry
January or if you've been possessed by the comedian aliens,
but I freaking love you this year, dude.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I can't tell you how much I've laughed.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Love my new Shannon, love you too, Gary, But you're
just Carrie. All right, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Go Chargers. That was nice.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Are you trying to cheer me up?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
You've had a rough day.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I have not had a rough day. It's time for
swamp watch Politicians.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
I'm a cheat and a liar, and when I'm not
kissing babies, I'm stealing the lollipop. So we got the
real problem is that our leaders are dune.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
The other side never quit. So I'm not going anywhere.
So now the.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Swat, I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
What has been.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
You know, Americans have always been going at.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
They're not stupid.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
A political plunder is what a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Have the people voting for you with not swamp watch,
They're all counteraing, Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
A second federal judge today block Trump's executive order to
try to end birthright citizenship, saying it is likely unconstitutional
runs counter to what will our adherrement to the Constitution.
I guess you could say our nation's two hundred and
fifty year history of citizenship by birth.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
This is what I think a lot of people forget
about when they're terrified of what Donald Trump is going
to do from the.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
White House using executive order whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
They forget that there is a system of checks and
balances that exists in this country. And despite everyone's fear
that six conservative justices on the Supreme Court are going
to do everything that Trump wants them to do, we've
seen that that is absolutely not the case. And in
many cases in the last several year years, even during
the Biden presidency, you saw a lot of five to
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four decisions or six to three that did not go
down party lines, so our ideological lines, I should.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Say, President Trump's directive for federal employees to return to
in person work could run into a hurdle, not enough
office space, not enough space at their offices to accommodate everyone. Well,
at least they got rid of their office space, unlike
some places.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I know, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
This whole place is looking around cavernous, whole of nothing
and void.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And that's after we got rid of some of it, right,
I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
There's six people who work here. It's a massive bill nine.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
It's a lot of money you're wasting.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Speaking of which, the CIA has offered buyouts to its
entire workforce. Officials have said it's a bid to bring
the agency in line with Trump's priorities, including targeting drug cartels,
and CIA says it's the first intelligence agency to tell
its employees they can quit their jobs and get about
eight months of pay and benefits as a push to
kind of.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
What does that do to your pension?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
That's a good question. I don't know how that necessarily
works out.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
The big deal from yesterday was that President Trump had
suggested that we get rid of Gaza the way it exists,
take it over, being the United States taking it over,
and then rebuild it into something bigger, better, faster, stronger.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
The US will take over the Gaza strip and we
will do a job with it too. We'll own it
and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded
bombs and other weapons on the site. Level the site
and get rid of the destroyed buildings. Level it out,
create an economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of
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jobs and housing for the people of the area.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Figure out how big the area is, one hundred and
forty one square miles.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Marco Rubia, which you were right, it's very hard to
wrap your head around, saying US Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
But he says that the proposal to take ownership of
Gaza and redevelop the area into the Riviera of the
Middle East was a generous offer. Rubio said it was
not meant as a hostile move. It was meant as,
I think, a very generous move the Riviera of the
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Middle East. I mean, that's like a bit that you
would see on SNL with Trump this week saying we're
going to take over Gaza, SNL taking that ball and
running it down the field into the end zone, with
a skit about Trump selling the Riviera of the Middle East.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Is it not like isn't that an SNL skit? Sure.
I haven't watched it.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
For a photoshop I may have been on what was
it Drudge Report or something like that as looking through
this morning, and they had photoshopped a picture of a
Trump hotel standing in all of its gold, gilded glory
amongst the ruins of what's left of Gaza, right, I
mean that kind of yeah, it's that theme that they're
going to play with. And let's and he got he
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got what he got praise from Benjamin netan Yahoo.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
You see things others refuse to see. You say things
others refuse to say. And on after the jaws drop,
people scratch their heads and they say, you know, he's.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Right, of course, Benjamin Netanyaho.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Everybody on that far right party that is now in
control of Israel, they love this idea because they hate Hamas.
And that was one of the things that Trump had said,
is we've got to dismantle Hamas period. That Gaza itself
is being run by terrorists and the Palestinians have been
held hostage by their own government in that place. One
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of the other things that's going on in DC today
is he is Trump is fulfilling one of his campaign promises.
He's going to sign an executive order aiming to keep
transgender athletes out of school sponsored women and girls sports.
It's expected to direct the Education Department to take action.
Would be for the agency to say that any school
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that allows trans girls and women to compete is in
violation of Title nine, which is the federal law that
bans sex discrimination in schools, and that if any school does,
they would violate they would risk losing federal funds.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
All right, when we come back, lobster fights, this is dirty.
I had no idea that there were such savage fights
that went on in the world of lobster fishermen.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Lobstermen, lobstermen.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Excuse me, well, I knew it was a what you
watch on Wednesday. And Keana found this story a few
days ago about the lobster Wars, and I thought, my goodness,
somebody in Hollywood should wrangle this in and sell it,
film it and sell it, because this sounds like one
of those shows that would do very well.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
This is all a reality show.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, this is all about the lobbs Wars. In Canada,
they say that this is the way the dispute is
kind of framed. When you ask lobster men about this
This is an article in the New York Times. They say,
think of the ocean's bounty like a pie. They're asking
who should get a piece and what's the fairest way
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to divide it between white Canadians who built the commercial
lobster industry and the indigenous people who were historically left out.
And then the criminal enterprise that come in and act
like the mafia in corner Badegas when it comes to
paying their fair share or fishing where they ought to
be fishing and where they ought not to be fishing
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for the lobster. I mean, it is rot with dirty,
dirty deeds.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
As an example, one guy found a bullet lodged into
one of his walls at one point. He woke up
saw the damage at his home in the town of Claire,
which is a community on the southwest shore of No Nova, Scotia,
right along Saint Mary's Bay. He said it was a
warning shot that the bullet ended up tearing into a
wall just above an armchair. He happens to own a
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seafood distributor company that packs live lobster for export.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
He thinks he was targeted for ignoring repeated orders over
the last year to do business with the people in
the lobster industry who he thinks are dirty. He's received
threatening text messages, he's followed by an in person visit
by two of the non indigenous men. So two of
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the criminals.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And they have been arrested. I mean, they charged with
several crimes in connection to that case. But he said
this is part of what they see as this pattern
of violence. You've got unsolved arsons. There was an historical
a sawmill that burned down in June, a police car
was torched, the shootings into homes of other people.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
They say the troublemakers are about ten locals and their
scheme focuses on buying lobsters that indigenous fishermen catch in
the summer. Now, harvesting lobsters during the summer is illegal
because that's when they reproduce. But the indigenous fishermen have
special permission because of historical treaty rights. But they're not
allowed to sell their hall.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
So these lobster that come out of Saint Mary's Bay
end up in obviously restaurants and stores around Nova Scotia.
And the lobstermen who refuse to cooperate with the criminal
group have become the targets of this small group, like
you said, a core group of about ten locals that
are doing this. The sergeant at the RCMP Royal Canadian
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Mounted Police said, I was expecting a little, small, quaint village,
but I've got big city problems. You've got not just
the frustration between, like you said, the white and the Indigenous. Sorry,
Indigenous people, the first nations tribes that have existed and
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have actually had the rights to these lobsters for generations.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
From the seventeen hundred, long before.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Canada was Canada, right, and their argument is we should
be allowed to do whatever we want. So the government
has only gone so far as granting individual license lobster
licenses to groups, allowing them to catch those lobsters in
the summer, like you said, but limiting the commercial sales
to lobsters harvested during the legally permitted fishing.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
It's like Yellowstone, but with lobsters. I haven't watched that
show either.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I saw this similar many years ago. I went fishing
with my dad and a couple of his buddies. We
went a couple times off the coast of Vancouver, Vancouver Island,
and the captain of our ship was explainings ship, our
small boat was explaining why we had to travel so
far to get to the place where we could fish
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for salmon. And it was because salmon. There's only certain
places that you, as a non First nation's fishermen can
fish for salmon, and only spertain times of the year.
There's a limit to your catch for for a person,
that kind of thing. But we would have and every
once in a while he would tell us, Okay, we
got to take our we got to take our lines up,
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we got to move, and we can't troll through this
specific spot through this area and.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
There's boats all around us doing it.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
And I said, well, why do they get to do
it and we don't, And he said, they're First Nations.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
They have rights that we don't. When it comes to fishing.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Hands said, give me those fish. I am the white
Man and I will make fish.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
But they could catch smaller fish. We had to, you know,
our fish had to reach a certain limit. That kind
of thing that whether it was salmon or.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
God fresh salmon sounds so good right now, and it's
good to those Omega three fatty acids.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
The good the good oil is not the bad oil.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Garian Shannon kf I AM six forty live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app Stories that we happen to be following today.
President Trump's proposal that the US take over the Kaza
Strip and then permanently resettle its Palestinian residence has been
rejected by just about everybody who's heard it, other than
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin at Yahoo, Saudi Arabia says they
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still want a palace. Good looking guy, firm, steadfast, unwavering.
Prime Minister Anthony Albani's of Australia has total reporters that
they have long supported it.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Two states.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
He was Gary's.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
She's doing the he looks like are not a creator
of things.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
We could talk about this right after he gives us
another headline real quick.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Secretary Saint Marco Rubio is defending the dismantling of USAID,
praising President Trump's panned proposal for the US to take
control of the Gaza Strip. Rubio actually said it a
news conference today down in Guatemala City.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
He does rodeo stuff too.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
The administration was forced to shut down USAID because of
insubordination within its ranks.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
So fun fact for the listeners we're talking about Taylor
Sheridan off the air, and so.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Carrie's talking about Trump.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
In the Godza strip, and then you just randomly said
he's a good looking guy.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
People are used to this, okay, the people.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
It's nothing new, nothing, But he is a good Is
that a fair statement?
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I think? Yeah. I mean I've seen it now.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
I've seen him a shirtless in Lioness and he definitely
works out. He looks small, Yeah, but he's yoked like
he's He's one of those guys that you could see
the lines of his muscles on his like kind of pecks,
like the lines of Yeah, like the striations. I think
it's like the actual muscle fibers.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Not just like they're fine.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Both of you guys, he's a good looking guy. Gary,
come on, you wouldn't hug him for more than twenty second.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I think he's a good looking guy, right, No, I
think he looks rated out like a steroid over a
couple of times.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Oh is it too much? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I'm just looking at stills. I haven't seen it in
the wild.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
That's that's how you assess people. Still, you mean, like
he looks.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
He's overdone it way the leathery skin, like he drinks
way too much coffee and smokes about four packs.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
You know what, It'll be honest.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
I feel like there's a lot of wives out there
who whenever they see a muscle bound guy on TV,
they're like, oh, that's disgusting. But really they're saying that
to me or your wife.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
My wife husband believes that. Nobody I know for sure. Definitely.
I mean, that would be stupid if you believe something
dumb like that.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I will say that those guys look way too high maintenance.
I had one of my closest friends, she actually knows
divorced now, but one of the first problems in the
marriage was that the husband got mad because she was
also using some of his protein powder, which I saw
as an early red flag.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
This is why I've decided my wife is okay with
my body.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Guys that are obsessed with body stuff can be just
as like females. I would imagine way too high maintenance
to have a marriage. If you're that obsessed with, like,
you know, your muscles being that defined, or you know,
zero percent fat or what have you, Like, that just
sounds like zero fun.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Yeah, because I think I imagine that's all you talk
about there's, there's all your things on yourself, there's there
is what it is, there's a small percentage of genetically
enhanced people that are just they could just do that
while eating dunkin Donuts all the time, and they're delightful
and easy to look at.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
But I think the large uh, what's up? What happened?
Did I figure we're on the radio again? Is that
what happened? All right? Into your house?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
And I don't remember there being any sort of pictures.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
No, I don't. That's what I mean. I don't worship
the male form necessarily.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Sounds kind of okay, let's talk about parenting. Why back
to Taylor Sheridan's PEPs.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Just twenty more minutes on the pecks and then we
could talk a little bit about kids generation.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
What your generation reveals about your parenting style, and according
to parents dot com, it's more than you think.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
What I found interesting about this is that they reference
like historical events that happened during your generation's like youthful era, Yeah,
your former years, thank you, and how that informs So
if you go back to generation X, they have the
fall of the Berlin Wall, the end of the Cold War,
rise of AIDS and HIV, the Watergate scandal, the rise
of personal computers, and.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
My favorite, the emergence of MTV had a big societal impact.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
This is me.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I'm pretty much smack in the middle of that. In
seventy three. I don't remember the Berlin Wall or what
the meaning would be. No, I mean I remember if yes,
it didn't impact me because you.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Had no context for it.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Fifty years for Cold War, same thing.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I mean, I vaguely remember there being nuclear drilled posters
on the Junior High Wall, but they were old and dusty.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Watergate obviously don't remember.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
You remember the AIDS.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I just remember because in northern California everywhere front page
news all the time. But computers and MTV definitely are
something that would resonate more with me than anything. And
what they say came out of this general which I
think which is interesting. None of those historical things seem
to provide context to what they say affects those parents.
Generation X are like the beginning of helicopter parenting, and
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I think it's because they were by boomers who were,
like we joke about, like our parents didn't really pay
attention to what we were doing to the extent that
what we did. I would not go as far as
to say they didn't care or love us, that their
way of caring or loving for us wasn't to be
all up in our face and making us do things
all the time.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Could you let's just go through the ridiculousness of this
article on its face. Could you imagine, let's say your father's,
for example, all of our fathers sitting down and thinking,
I wonder what my generation reveals about my parenting style. Yeah,
like that's not a thing, like, that's a very generation
thing of like what does it all mean? Better question
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for our fathers would be what is parenting style? Yes?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, yeah, what the hell are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
You have kids, you feed them, you give them some clothes,
and boom.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I tried. Your dad did not know where my clothes
came from. Mine did not either mine. I have no idea. No,
he didn't know.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
He didn't know where my school was.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
No, absolutely not. Are you kidding?
Speaker 4 (20:00):
He didn't know, He didn't know the names of my friend.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
He paid no attention to us.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Whatsoever. You were allowed to speak. I don't think I
was allowed to speak for the first eight years.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Oh, I could speak all I wanted the questions whether anybody.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
About times that my wife pretends like it also doesn't help.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
Every once in a while, if I'm busy doing something
and my son comes in and just starts saying stuff
or whatever, she like goes, hey are you listening, which
to me also just like accents the fact that I
wantn't paying attention to my kid, And I'm like, hey,
you wasn't too long ago that this was actually fothering,
Like this is how it works. You had to you
had to earn my attention with something spectacular.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
That's true. It's true.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I mean because they can talk. Yeah, a certain level
of blood before you leave it, Yes, turn your head.
But like I'll say stuff like that, like our parents
didn't even listen to us. But then I'll be like
in a conversation with one of my nephews and they'll
be just going on and on. I'll be m and
I'll be like, I am not listening.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I'm actively not listening.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
YEA been there.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Oh man, that's so great.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
Millennial parents had the Great Recession childhood and internet with
internet COVID nineteen pandemic, rising living and childcare costs, the
rise of social media, platforms and the invention of smartphones.
But what I thought, what kind of affected them is
that they are less likely to have children. And it
seems to be like I wonder if we're going to
like a few generations from now, you know how we
would talk about our grandparents like they grew up during
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the Depression, so they keep a lot of money in
the mattress, right, like.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
These kids are cans of beans. Grew up during the.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
Great Recession, so they didn't really have I didn't have siblings.
My parents didn't have you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
She lost everything when pets dot Com was SI All
right up next scheme. Justin Warsham was joined as we
talk about issues about parents really quick.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Other acts on the bill Metallica, Slayer and Pantera.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Wow, holy hell hello seventh grade me exactly and all
the music.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
My parents would let me listen to.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Als get torn at that concert.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Sorry, sorry, I couldn't make it.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
My sciatica.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
There's gotta be a lot in the pit or adjacent
to the pit.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
A lot of those d supports with the little porthole
for the kneecap, a lot of that just having stacked up.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Then ag hip replacement there's going.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
To be the occasional guy with like the Tom Brady
esque just above the ankle to short of the hip,
full blown brace like he's Forrest Gump.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Because you don't hear panthera as a fifty two year
old man and feel fifty two.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
No, you remember you as thirteen? Yeah. Study from Health
and Human Services twenty twenty two studies said that between
twenty fifteen and twenty nineteen, more than twenty one million
kids in the United States lived with a parent who
used illicit substances. I'm talking alcohol and I'm not even
necessarily talking pot, but.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
And the c mushrooms, LSD cocaine, yeah, uh and hard that's.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Not that is not an un I'm staying.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I don't know why we're all judging other people's lives.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
So I don't know why I found that so amusing,
But I really did.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
She beat the two of us. She was like, guys,
it's really hard out there. You don't even know. I don't.
You're right.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
But they also say that this is differentiated from those
web parents with a substance problem, So this is entirely recreational.
Nobody that would either consider themselves to be diagnosed or
be considered to have a problem question.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I know here it comes.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Here's my question, and again I'm not coming from a
judgy place. This is just a question for my own edification.
If you're recreationally taking ecstasy as an adult who is
in charge of another little human, that's a problem.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Yes, But so this is the argument.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
It doesn't mean you're addicted. Maybe, but that's a problem.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
So this is the argument.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
The argument is and why they wrote this article is
because there is a cultural shift that we as a
society don't see a mom who throws back a couple
of glasses of wine right as being a problem.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
But if she's throwing.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Back some much rooms, Yeah, but I don't see tracers
if I have a couple of glasses of wine. If
I do mushrooms or ecstasy, I'm like rub lotion on
my arm.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Oh it feels so good.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Stranger, But then you got to drive home from Why
does it have to be a stranger.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
It could be your husband. It's the same thing, right,
Have you ever done ecstasy? No?
Speaker 7 (24:28):
Okay, honey, if you're listening, I gotta get some MDM.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I think it's called I don't even know. I think
you pass a Vaughan's on the way home, right, you
get it. Here's to them. Yeah, okay, guys, like chocolate
bars is a fundraiser, they're trying.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
To say that it is the same thing as having
two glasses of.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
They're saying, in my opinion, they're saying that there is
a cultural shift that as a society, we are shifting
the perspective to say that that also gets to be
lumped into that Venn diagram, that it's no longer that
like there's this stigma that was placed on pot, and
now pot has become a part of like the culture
where it's accepted, and now that other drugs are also
getting to join it.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
It's in moderation. But you can't really moderate ecstasy. Either
you're high on ecstasy or you're not.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, there's no microdocs.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Of wine or seventeen you know. I mean there's a
difference there ecstasy. I don't think there is a difference.
I don't think you can just take a little bit
and that helps you through the day. I don't think that.
Maybe I'm antiquated. Maybe I'm thinking about the late nineties ecstasy.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
As the person on the show who's done ecstasy. It
sounds like is it that way?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Like I don't know anymore everything. You can't take drugs
anymore because you don't even know. But if you did,
I don't know if it has changed.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
They've already shown that the THHC levels in the pot
that you can get at a dispensary today in southern
California is like ninety percent THCHC, whereas the stuff you
were getting in the seventies is like sixty to seventy percent.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Oh yeah, it's much more potent. And that's that's I
think an issue. But again, if you're talking about if
you're talking about someone like me, who's like, you know
what I'm going to start, I'm gonna start.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I don't know why, just what ecstasy really? I was
gonna say pot I was. I'm gonna start cracking starting gummies.
It's the gateway, you know, four or five nights a week,
just to calm myself down, take the edge of my
blood pressure, keep my cholesterol.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Instead of bourbon, you're gonna have a gummy. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
Yeah, I don't know enough about the process or the
effect it has on me to make that determination that
it's going to be an okay, thing my kids.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Around that holidays, they like tell you how much is
in it?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Though, right, yeah, but again.
Speaker 7 (26:30):
I still don't I don't know all they tell you
the percentage, but they and the dosage amount, but they
don't like. What you don't know is how stronger it
is than what it was in the seventies or in
its natural form of musing.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Do you point to him when you said in the
seventies like he was smoking weed in the seven.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
Because he's the example of what we're talking about, not
because he was smoking weed in the seventies.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I'm not falling for that trap shots you were saying.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I mean, I know, and we've said this many times before.
I know what two glasses of wine will do to me.
I know what four glasses will do to me. Who
count after five? Probably and that's a bad thing. But
I wouldn't know what ten gram is that a measurement?
I don't know what it would do to me, and
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
How I want way for us to find out.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Okay, all right, everybody's coming over on just sorton Wednesday
coming up?
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Should I acquire some drugs and give them to you
on Sunday to see what happens. I trust you as
far as I could throw you exactly get the drugs.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Good point, I'm getting the drugs.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
I think it's worth mentioning too, that there's one third
of people ages thirty to thirty nine and a quarter
of forty to forty nine that have taken cocaine within
the last twelve months. This is from a survey of
twenty twenty three thirty to thirty nine, one third forty
to forty nine, twenty five percent.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Forty to forty nine percent of people tak no No
forty to forty nine years of age.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Twenty five percent of the vocal survey taking cocaine in
the last twelve months find cocaine.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
The same percentage is marijuana within the last six months,
but cocaine. And all I'm saying is is that as
a guy who came on to this show and said
I would do a shot at tequila to take the
edge off when my kids were younger, that it's interesting
that it's it's ramping up.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
It's just and it seems like, listen, I've never done cocaine,
so I don't know the answer. I'm looking at Shannon,
but I would say that doesn't take.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
The edge off. Not cocaine. I can imagine it takes.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
The edge off.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I mean, do you want something that was you would
technically be a downer and it's not.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
No, that's a euphoria type thing. Everything is wonderful.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
Ecstasy, but not cocaine, right, No, both both both ecstasy
and cocaine make you feel the same way.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Listen, you can't do any of this anymore because they
put fentanyl in it.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
You'll fry, you'll die.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
We'll go down the list of Schedule one drugs that
we're going to your super Bowl party?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Wait, are you really gonna know? He said, no, I
can't go.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
My kid has a made performance of big Fish that literally.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Starts at two o'clock on Sunday. Oh, this is making
me wrestle. My love for my child so much.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Schedules anythingtists who don't care about sports ball as they
call it.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Oh, they're so really weird.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
I actually asked my son, I'm like, on a scale
of one to ten, how upset would you be if
Dad didn't come to the matinee?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
You make it to the evening? One? There is no
what do you mean? The evening was not an evening?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
It's not matt it's funny.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
But when you say mattinee, I I also thought the
same thing, like, well, then there was show.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
It's a one time two o'clock show. I mean, I've
already would have seen it Friday and Saturday.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
He's just it's big fish. It's it's all about father's dying.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
I know I'm going to be dehydrated by the time
the thing is done.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I'm gonna need an ivy back. While I watched the
Super Bowl as.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
It is, my dad wouldn't have been caught dead at
a matinee anything.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Oh my god, let alone. Like I say, my dad
didn't know where the school was.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
My dad would have been like, ladies basketball, Sorry, you
can't make it.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
You put have missedter recital for a preseason game. Yes, did?
I love you? Thank you.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
We'll tell you how the cocaine goes.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
It's great, can't wait.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
We're not doing any drugs.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
On the air. Wink wink, nailed it. You've been listening
to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, the Chiefs are pursuing history. Saquon Barkley,
Jalen Hurts. The Eagles stand in their way. Chiefs will
try to become the first team to win three straight
Super Bowls when they face the Eagles coming up on Sunday.
It's a rematch from a couple of years ago when
the Eagles almost did it, only to watch Mahomes, of course,
snatch it away from the From from the Eagles thirty
(00:31):
eight to thirty five. How do you choose who to
root for? I mean, you have not the chief Eagles, right,
That's just it. It's not the Chiefs process.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I mean, it's not that you hate the Chiefs or
you hate excellence, or you hate that Patrick Mahomes is
so good and squirrely and that he's actually a runner.
You can hate Travis Kelcey and all the attention he
and Taylor Swift get, but it's not about that.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
For me.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It's just I'm just ready for something, for something new,
and is it the Eagles no, but at least that's
a relatively less hurt then the Chiefs winning again. Part
of my whole thing is that I've seen the Chiefs
beat my team, both of my teams repeatedly, sometimes twice
a year with the Chargers, and I go to Arrowhead
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every year for pain and then I pay exorbitant amounts
of money to watch the forty nine Ers loose to
them in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I still don't hate the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I just I'm tired of them. Painting is not a
rational feeling for people you don't know, or a football team,
or laundry. To use the Seinfeld example, you're rooting for laundry.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
You do not have to pay anything to go to
my house.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
In fact, you're think about how cheap that's going to be.
You're paying me, right, Oh, I do use some money. Actually,
I mean I'm bringing the midget over.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I don't think that's a great idea, and I don't
think you should refer to your husband that way.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Hey, Gary and Shannon Mike from the High Desert.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
I love it when Shannon gets riled up about stuff,
even when it's so small.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
It's great.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Guys, have a great day.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Thanks for thanks for putting down your chips while you
make our leave the talk back.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
That's nice.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Oh my god, Shannon, this is a Jennifer from Chula Vista.
I freaking love you, dude. You are so authentic, so
freaking funny.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
I don't know if it's because you are on dry
January or if you've been possessed by the comedian aliens,
but I freaking love you this year, dude.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I can't tell you how much I've laughed.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Love my new Shannon, love you too, Gary, But you're
just Carrie. All right, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Go Chargers. That was nice.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Are you trying to cheer me up?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
You've had a rough day.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I have not had a rough day. It's time for
swamp watch Politicians.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
I'm a cheat and a liar, and when I'm not
kissing babies, I'm stealing the lollipop. So we got the
real problem is that our leaders are dune.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
The other side never quit. So I'm not going anywhere.
So now the.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Swat, I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
What has been.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
You know, Americans have always been going at.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
They're not stupid.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
A political plunder is what a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Have the people voting for you with not swamp watch,
They're all counteraing, Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
A second federal judge today block Trump's executive order to
try to end birthright citizenship, saying it is likely unconstitutional
runs counter to what will our adherrement to the Constitution.
I guess you could say our nation's two hundred and
fifty year history of citizenship by birth.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
This is what I think a lot of people forget
about when they're terrified of what Donald Trump is going
to do from the.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
White House using executive order whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
They forget that there is a system of checks and
balances that exists in this country. And despite everyone's fear
that six conservative justices on the Supreme Court are going
to do everything that Trump wants them to do, we've
seen that that is absolutely not the case. And in
many cases in the last several year years, even during
the Biden presidency, you saw a lot of five to
(04:05):
four decisions or six to three that did not go
down party lines, so our ideological lines, I should.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Say, President Trump's directive for federal employees to return to
in person work could run into a hurdle, not enough
office space, not enough space at their offices to accommodate everyone. Well,
at least they got rid of their office space, unlike
some places.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I know, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
This whole place is looking around cavernous, whole of nothing
and void.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And that's after we got rid of some of it, right,
I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
There's six people who work here. It's a massive bill nine.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
It's a lot of money you're wasting.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Speaking of which, the CIA has offered buyouts to its
entire workforce. Officials have said it's a bid to bring
the agency in line with Trump's priorities, including targeting drug cartels,
and CIA says it's the first intelligence agency to tell
its employees they can quit their jobs and get about
eight months of pay and benefits as a push to
kind of.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
What does that do to your pension?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
That's a good question. I don't know how that necessarily
works out.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
The big deal from yesterday was that President Trump had
suggested that we get rid of Gaza the way it exists,
take it over, being the United States taking it over,
and then rebuild it into something bigger, better, faster, stronger.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
The US will take over the Gaza strip and we
will do a job with it too. We'll own it
and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded
bombs and other weapons on the site. Level the site
and get rid of the destroyed buildings. Level it out,
create an economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of
(05:44):
jobs and housing for the people of the area.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Figure out how big the area is, one hundred and
forty one square miles.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Marco Rubia, which you were right, it's very hard to
wrap your head around, saying US Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
But he says that the proposal to take ownership of
Gaza and redevelop the area into the Riviera of the
Middle East was a generous offer. Rubio said it was
not meant as a hostile move. It was meant as,
I think, a very generous move the Riviera of the
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Middle East. I mean, that's like a bit that you
would see on SNL with Trump this week saying we're
going to take over Gaza, SNL taking that ball and
running it down the field into the end zone, with
a skit about Trump selling the Riviera of the Middle East.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Is it not like isn't that an SNL skit? Sure.
I haven't watched it.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
For a photoshop I may have been on what was
it Drudge Report or something like that as looking through
this morning, and they had photoshopped a picture of a
Trump hotel standing in all of its gold, gilded glory
amongst the ruins of what's left of Gaza, right, I
mean that kind of yeah, it's that theme that they're
going to play with. And let's and he got he
(07:03):
got what he got praise from Benjamin netan Yahoo.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
You see things others refuse to see. You say things
others refuse to say. And on after the jaws drop,
people scratch their heads and they say, you know, he's.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Right, of course, Benjamin Netanyaho.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Everybody on that far right party that is now in
control of Israel, they love this idea because they hate Hamas.
And that was one of the things that Trump had said,
is we've got to dismantle Hamas period. That Gaza itself
is being run by terrorists and the Palestinians have been
held hostage by their own government in that place. One
(07:44):
of the other things that's going on in DC today
is he is Trump is fulfilling one of his campaign promises.
He's going to sign an executive order aiming to keep
transgender athletes out of school sponsored women and girls sports.
It's expected to direct the Education Department to take action.
Would be for the agency to say that any school
(08:06):
that allows trans girls and women to compete is in
violation of Title nine, which is the federal law that
bans sex discrimination in schools, and that if any school does,
they would violate they would risk losing federal funds.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
All right, when we come back, lobster fights, this is dirty.
I had no idea that there were such savage fights
that went on in the world of lobster fishermen.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Lobstermen, lobstermen.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Excuse me, well, I knew it was a what you
watch on Wednesday. And Keana found this story a few
days ago about the lobster Wars, and I thought, my goodness,
somebody in Hollywood should wrangle this in and sell it,
film it and sell it, because this sounds like one
of those shows that would do very well.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
This is all a reality show.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, this is all about the lobbs Wars. In Canada,
they say that this is the way the dispute is
kind of framed. When you ask lobster men about this
This is an article in the New York Times. They say,
think of the ocean's bounty like a pie. They're asking
who should get a piece and what's the fairest way
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to divide it between white Canadians who built the commercial
lobster industry and the indigenous people who were historically left out.
And then the criminal enterprise that come in and act
like the mafia in corner Badegas when it comes to
paying their fair share or fishing where they ought to
be fishing and where they ought not to be fishing
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for the lobster. I mean, it is rot with dirty,
dirty deeds.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
As an example, one guy found a bullet lodged into
one of his walls at one point. He woke up
saw the damage at his home in the town of Claire,
which is a community on the southwest shore of No Nova, Scotia,
right along Saint Mary's Bay. He said it was a
warning shot that the bullet ended up tearing into a
wall just above an armchair. He happens to own a
(10:09):
seafood distributor company that packs live lobster for export.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
He thinks he was targeted for ignoring repeated orders over
the last year to do business with the people in
the lobster industry who he thinks are dirty. He's received
threatening text messages, he's followed by an in person visit
by two of the non indigenous men. So two of
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the criminals.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And they have been arrested. I mean, they charged with
several crimes in connection to that case. But he said
this is part of what they see as this pattern
of violence. You've got unsolved arsons. There was an historical
a sawmill that burned down in June, a police car
was torched, the shootings into homes of other people.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
They say the troublemakers are about ten locals and their
scheme focuses on buying lobsters that indigenous fishermen catch in
the summer. Now, harvesting lobsters during the summer is illegal
because that's when they reproduce. But the indigenous fishermen have
special permission because of historical treaty rights. But they're not
allowed to sell their hall.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
So these lobster that come out of Saint Mary's Bay
end up in obviously restaurants and stores around Nova Scotia.
And the lobstermen who refuse to cooperate with the criminal
group have become the targets of this small group, like
you said, a core group of about ten locals that
are doing this. The sergeant at the RCMP Royal Canadian
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Mounted Police said, I was expecting a little, small, quaint village,
but I've got big city problems. You've got not just
the frustration between, like you said, the white and the Indigenous. Sorry,
Indigenous people, the first nations tribes that have existed and
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have actually had the rights to these lobsters for generations.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
From the seventeen hundred, long before.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Canada was Canada, right, and their argument is we should
be allowed to do whatever we want. So the government
has only gone so far as granting individual license lobster
licenses to groups, allowing them to catch those lobsters in
the summer, like you said, but limiting the commercial sales
to lobsters harvested during the legally permitted fishing.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
It's like Yellowstone, but with lobsters. I haven't watched that
show either.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I saw this similar many years ago. I went fishing
with my dad and a couple of his buddies. We
went a couple times off the coast of Vancouver, Vancouver Island,
and the captain of our ship was explainings ship, our
small boat was explaining why we had to travel so
far to get to the place where we could fish
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for salmon. And it was because salmon. There's only certain
places that you, as a non First nation's fishermen can
fish for salmon, and only spertain times of the year.
There's a limit to your catch for for a person,
that kind of thing. But we would have and every
once in a while he would tell us, Okay, we
got to take our we got to take our lines up,
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we got to move, and we can't troll through this
specific spot through this area and.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
There's boats all around us doing it.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
And I said, well, why do they get to do
it and we don't, And he said, they're First Nations.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
They have rights that we don't. When it comes to fishing.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Hands said, give me those fish. I am the white
Man and I will make fish.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
But they could catch smaller fish. We had to, you know,
our fish had to reach a certain limit. That kind
of thing that whether it was salmon or.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
God fresh salmon sounds so good right now, and it's
good to those Omega three fatty acids.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
The good the good oil is not the bad oil.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Garian Shannon kf I AM six forty live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app Stories that we happen to be following today.
President Trump's proposal that the US take over the Kaza
Strip and then permanently resettle its Palestinian residence has been
rejected by just about everybody who's heard it, other than
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin at Yahoo, Saudi Arabia says they
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still want a palace. Good looking guy, firm, steadfast, unwavering.
Prime Minister Anthony Albani's of Australia has total reporters that
they have long supported it.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Two states.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
He was Gary's.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
She's doing the he looks like are not a creator
of things.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
We could talk about this right after he gives us
another headline real quick.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Secretary Saint Marco Rubio is defending the dismantling of USAID,
praising President Trump's panned proposal for the US to take
control of the Gaza Strip. Rubio actually said it a
news conference today down in Guatemala City.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
He does rodeo stuff too.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
The administration was forced to shut down USAID because of
insubordination within its ranks.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
So fun fact for the listeners we're talking about Taylor
Sheridan off the air, and so.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Carrie's talking about Trump.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
In the Godza strip, and then you just randomly said
he's a good looking guy.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
People are used to this, okay, the people.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
It's nothing new, nothing, But he is a good Is
that a fair statement?
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I think? Yeah. I mean I've seen it now.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
I've seen him a shirtless in Lioness and he definitely
works out. He looks small, Yeah, but he's yoked like
he's He's one of those guys that you could see
the lines of his muscles on his like kind of pecks,
like the lines of Yeah, like the striations. I think
it's like the actual muscle fibers.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Not just like they're fine.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Both of you guys, he's a good looking guy. Gary,
come on, you wouldn't hug him for more than twenty second.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I think he's a good looking guy, right, No, I
think he looks rated out like a steroid over a
couple of times.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Oh is it too much? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I'm just looking at stills. I haven't seen it in
the wild.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
That's that's how you assess people. Still, you mean, like
he looks.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
He's overdone it way the leathery skin, like he drinks
way too much coffee and smokes about four packs.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
You know what, It'll be honest.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
I feel like there's a lot of wives out there
who whenever they see a muscle bound guy on TV,
they're like, oh, that's disgusting. But really they're saying that
to me or your wife.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
My wife husband believes that. Nobody I know for sure. Definitely.
I mean, that would be stupid if you believe something
dumb like that.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I will say that those guys look way too high maintenance.
I had one of my closest friends, she actually knows
divorced now, but one of the first problems in the
marriage was that the husband got mad because she was
also using some of his protein powder, which I saw
as an early red flag.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
This is why I've decided my wife is okay with
my body.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Guys that are obsessed with body stuff can be just
as like females. I would imagine way too high maintenance
to have a marriage. If you're that obsessed with, like,
you know, your muscles being that defined, or you know,
zero percent fat or what have you, Like, that just
sounds like zero fun.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Yeah, because I think I imagine that's all you talk
about there's, there's all your things on yourself, there's there
is what it is, there's a small percentage of genetically
enhanced people that are just they could just do that
while eating dunkin Donuts all the time, and they're delightful
and easy to look at.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
But I think the large uh, what's up? What happened?
Did I figure we're on the radio again? Is that
what happened? All right? Into your house?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
And I don't remember there being any sort of pictures.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
No, I don't. That's what I mean. I don't worship
the male form necessarily.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Sounds kind of okay, let's talk about parenting. Why back
to Taylor Sheridan's PEPs.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Just twenty more minutes on the pecks and then we
could talk a little bit about kids generation.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
What your generation reveals about your parenting style, and according
to parents dot com, it's more than you think.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
What I found interesting about this is that they reference
like historical events that happened during your generation's like youthful era, Yeah,
your former years, thank you, and how that informs So
if you go back to generation X, they have the
fall of the Berlin Wall, the end of the Cold War,
rise of AIDS and HIV, the Watergate scandal, the rise
of personal computers, and.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
My favorite, the emergence of MTV had a big societal impact.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
This is me.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I'm pretty much smack in the middle of that. In
seventy three. I don't remember the Berlin Wall or what
the meaning would be. No, I mean I remember if yes,
it didn't impact me because you.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Had no context for it.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Fifty years for Cold War, same thing.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I mean, I vaguely remember there being nuclear drilled posters
on the Junior High Wall, but they were old and dusty.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Watergate obviously don't remember.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
You remember the AIDS.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I just remember because in northern California everywhere front page
news all the time. But computers and MTV definitely are
something that would resonate more with me than anything. And
what they say came out of this general which I
think which is interesting. None of those historical things seem
to provide context to what they say affects those parents.
Generation X are like the beginning of helicopter parenting, and
(18:58):
I think it's because they were by boomers who were,
like we joke about, like our parents didn't really pay
attention to what we were doing to the extent that
what we did. I would not go as far as
to say they didn't care or love us, that their
way of caring or loving for us wasn't to be
all up in our face and making us do things
all the time.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Could you let's just go through the ridiculousness of this
article on its face. Could you imagine, let's say your father's,
for example, all of our fathers sitting down and thinking,
I wonder what my generation reveals about my parenting style. Yeah,
like that's not a thing, like, that's a very generation
thing of like what does it all mean? Better question
(19:38):
for our fathers would be what is parenting style? Yes?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, yeah, what the hell are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
You have kids, you feed them, you give them some clothes,
and boom.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I tried. Your dad did not know where my clothes
came from. Mine did not either mine. I have no idea. No,
he didn't know.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
He didn't know where my school was.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
No, absolutely not. Are you kidding?
Speaker 4 (20:00):
He didn't know, He didn't know the names of my friend.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
He paid no attention to us.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Whatsoever. You were allowed to speak. I don't think I
was allowed to speak for the first eight years.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Oh, I could speak all I wanted the questions whether anybody.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
About times that my wife pretends like it also doesn't help.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
Every once in a while, if I'm busy doing something
and my son comes in and just starts saying stuff
or whatever, she like goes, hey are you listening, which
to me also just like accents the fact that I
wantn't paying attention to my kid, And I'm like, hey,
you wasn't too long ago that this was actually fothering,
Like this is how it works. You had to you
had to earn my attention with something spectacular.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
That's true. It's true.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I mean because they can talk. Yeah, a certain level
of blood before you leave it, Yes, turn your head.
But like I'll say stuff like that, like our parents
didn't even listen to us. But then I'll be like
in a conversation with one of my nephews and they'll
be just going on and on. I'll be m and
I'll be like, I am not listening.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I'm actively not listening.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
YEA been there.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Oh man, that's so great.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
Millennial parents had the Great Recession childhood and internet with
internet COVID nineteen pandemic, rising living and childcare costs, the
rise of social media, platforms and the invention of smartphones.
But what I thought, what kind of affected them is
that they are less likely to have children. And it
seems to be like I wonder if we're going to
like a few generations from now, you know how we
would talk about our grandparents like they grew up during
(21:18):
the Depression, so they keep a lot of money in
the mattress, right, like.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
These kids are cans of beans. Grew up during the.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
Great Recession, so they didn't really have I didn't have siblings.
My parents didn't have you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
She lost everything when pets dot Com was SI All
right up next scheme. Justin Warsham was joined as we
talk about issues about parents really quick.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Other acts on the bill Metallica, Slayer and Pantera.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Wow, holy hell hello seventh grade me exactly and all
the music.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
My parents would let me listen to.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Als get torn at that concert.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Sorry, sorry, I couldn't make it.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
My sciatica.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
There's gotta be a lot in the pit or adjacent
to the pit.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
A lot of those d supports with the little porthole
for the kneecap, a lot of that just having stacked up.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Then ag hip replacement there's going.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
To be the occasional guy with like the Tom Brady
esque just above the ankle to short of the hip,
full blown brace like he's Forrest Gump.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Because you don't hear panthera as a fifty two year
old man and feel fifty two.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
No, you remember you as thirteen? Yeah. Study from Health
and Human Services twenty twenty two studies said that between
twenty fifteen and twenty nineteen, more than twenty one million
kids in the United States lived with a parent who
used illicit substances. I'm talking alcohol and I'm not even
necessarily talking pot, but.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
And the c mushrooms, LSD cocaine, yeah, uh and hard that's.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Not that is not an un I'm staying.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I don't know why we're all judging other people's lives.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
So I don't know why I found that so amusing,
But I really did.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
She beat the two of us. She was like, guys,
it's really hard out there. You don't even know. I don't.
You're right.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
But they also say that this is differentiated from those
web parents with a substance problem, So this is entirely recreational.
Nobody that would either consider themselves to be diagnosed or
be considered to have a problem question.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I know here it comes.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Here's my question, and again I'm not coming from a
judgy place. This is just a question for my own edification.
If you're recreationally taking ecstasy as an adult who is
in charge of another little human, that's a problem.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Yes, But so this is the argument.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
It doesn't mean you're addicted. Maybe, but that's a problem.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
So this is the argument.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
The argument is and why they wrote this article is
because there is a cultural shift that we as a
society don't see a mom who throws back a couple
of glasses of wine right as being a problem.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
But if she's throwing.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Back some much rooms, Yeah, but I don't see tracers
if I have a couple of glasses of wine. If
I do mushrooms or ecstasy, I'm like rub lotion on
my arm.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Oh it feels so good.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Stranger, But then you got to drive home from Why
does it have to be a stranger.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
It could be your husband. It's the same thing, right,
Have you ever done ecstasy? No?
Speaker 7 (24:28):
Okay, honey, if you're listening, I gotta get some MDM.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I think it's called I don't even know. I think
you pass a Vaughan's on the way home, right, you
get it. Here's to them. Yeah, okay, guys, like chocolate
bars is a fundraiser, they're trying.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
To say that it is the same thing as having
two glasses of.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
They're saying, in my opinion, they're saying that there is
a cultural shift that as a society, we are shifting
the perspective to say that that also gets to be
lumped into that Venn diagram, that it's no longer that
like there's this stigma that was placed on pot, and
now pot has become a part of like the culture
where it's accepted, and now that other drugs are also
getting to join it.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
It's in moderation. But you can't really moderate ecstasy. Either
you're high on ecstasy or you're not.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, there's no microdocs.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Of wine or seventeen you know. I mean there's a
difference there ecstasy. I don't think there is a difference.
I don't think you can just take a little bit
and that helps you through the day. I don't think that.
Maybe I'm antiquated. Maybe I'm thinking about the late nineties ecstasy.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
As the person on the show who's done ecstasy. It
sounds like is it that way?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Like I don't know anymore everything. You can't take drugs
anymore because you don't even know. But if you did,
I don't know if it has changed.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
They've already shown that the THHC levels in the pot
that you can get at a dispensary today in southern
California is like ninety percent THCHC, whereas the stuff you
were getting in the seventies is like sixty to seventy percent.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Oh yeah, it's much more potent. And that's that's I
think an issue. But again, if you're talking about if
you're talking about someone like me, who's like, you know
what I'm going to start, I'm gonna start.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I don't know why, just what ecstasy really? I was
gonna say pot I was. I'm gonna start cracking starting gummies.
It's the gateway, you know, four or five nights a week,
just to calm myself down, take the edge of my
blood pressure, keep my cholesterol.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Instead of bourbon, you're gonna have a gummy. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
Yeah, I don't know enough about the process or the
effect it has on me to make that determination that
it's going to be an okay, thing my kids.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Around that holidays, they like tell you how much is
in it?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Though, right, yeah, but again.
Speaker 7 (26:30):
I still don't I don't know all they tell you
the percentage, but they and the dosage amount, but they
don't like. What you don't know is how stronger it
is than what it was in the seventies or in
its natural form of musing.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Do you point to him when you said in the
seventies like he was smoking weed in the seven.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
Because he's the example of what we're talking about, not
because he was smoking weed in the seventies.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I'm not falling for that trap shots you were saying.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I mean, I know, and we've said this many times before.
I know what two glasses of wine will do to me.
I know what four glasses will do to me. Who
count after five? Probably and that's a bad thing. But
I wouldn't know what ten gram is that a measurement?
I don't know what it would do to me, and
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
How I want way for us to find out.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Okay, all right, everybody's coming over on just sorton Wednesday
coming up?
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Should I acquire some drugs and give them to you
on Sunday to see what happens. I trust you as
far as I could throw you exactly get the drugs.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Good point, I'm getting the drugs.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
I think it's worth mentioning too, that there's one third
of people ages thirty to thirty nine and a quarter
of forty to forty nine that have taken cocaine within
the last twelve months. This is from a survey of
twenty twenty three thirty to thirty nine, one third forty
to forty nine, twenty five percent.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Forty to forty nine percent of people tak no No
forty to forty nine years of age.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Twenty five percent of the vocal survey taking cocaine in
the last twelve months find cocaine.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
The same percentage is marijuana within the last six months,
but cocaine. And all I'm saying is is that as
a guy who came on to this show and said
I would do a shot at tequila to take the
edge off when my kids were younger, that it's interesting
that it's it's ramping up.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
It's just and it seems like, listen, I've never done cocaine,
so I don't know the answer. I'm looking at Shannon,
but I would say that doesn't take.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
The edge off. Not cocaine. I can imagine it takes.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
The edge off.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I mean, do you want something that was you would
technically be a downer and it's not.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
No, that's a euphoria type thing. Everything is wonderful.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
Ecstasy, but not cocaine, right, No, both both both ecstasy
and cocaine make you feel the same way.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Listen, you can't do any of this anymore because they
put fentanyl in it.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
You'll fry, you'll die.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
We'll go down the list of Schedule one drugs that
we're going to your super Bowl party?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Wait, are you really gonna know? He said, no, I
can't go.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
My kid has a made performance of big Fish that literally.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Starts at two o'clock on Sunday. Oh, this is making
me wrestle. My love for my child so much.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Schedules anythingtists who don't care about sports ball as they
call it.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Oh, they're so really weird.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
I actually asked my son, I'm like, on a scale
of one to ten, how upset would you be if
Dad didn't come to the matinee?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
You make it to the evening? One? There is no
what do you mean? The evening was not an evening?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
It's not matt it's funny.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
But when you say mattinee, I I also thought the
same thing, like, well, then there was show.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
It's a one time two o'clock show. I mean, I've
already would have seen it Friday and Saturday.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
He's just it's big fish. It's it's all about father's dying.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
I know I'm going to be dehydrated by the time
the thing is done.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I'm gonna need an ivy back. While I watched the
Super Bowl as.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
It is, my dad wouldn't have been caught dead at
a matinee anything.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Oh my god, let alone. Like I say, my dad
didn't know where the school was.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
My dad would have been like, ladies basketball, Sorry, you
can't make it.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
You put have missedter recital for a preseason game. Yes, did?
I love you? Thank you.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
We'll tell you how the cocaine goes.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
It's great, can't wait.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
We're not doing any drugs.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
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