May 14, 2025 • 31 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty The Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
He combs his former girlfriend back on the stand today
in his New York sex crimes trial, Cassie Ventura telling
Jersey for Another Day about the physical abuse she says
she suffered from him during their ten yure relationship. He's
accused of forcing victims to take part in drug and
sex field parties over two decades. Faces life in prison.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
You're soon going to be able to walk through a
part of Santa Monica with an adult beverage in your hand.
They had a six hour meeting last night, but the
city Council in Santa Monica voted unanimously to approve the
open container ordinance that will allow you to walk along
the Third Street promenade between Wilsher and Broadway with alcoholic
beverages in hand. You can buy them at businesses along
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the promenade from eight in the morning until two in
the morning, and then carry those drinks in the approved
to go cups that are not glass or metal.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
The Democratic parties showing signs of life as the President
continues his tour in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
It's where we kick off swamp Watch.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheap and a liar.
And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Yeah, we got The real problem is that our leaders
are done.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
So what I'm not going anywhere so that you train
the swap.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been.
Speaker 7 (01:30):
You know, vans have always been going at President, but
they're not stupid.
Speaker 8 (01:34):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Whether people voting for you were not swamp Watch, They're
all countered.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
The more I think about this plane, the more I
think it's just a symbol. It's never going to be
put into service. It's just a gift.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
It is what it is.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
President Trump's Peace and Prosperity Tour there in the Middle East.
Making a stop in Cutter today, the President ouns announcing
new deals between Cutter and Boeing and the Department of Defense.
Boeing will be selling bless you one more.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I'm on h he's being shy.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I'll tell me what to do.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Boeing will be selling billions of dollars worth of planes
two Cutter DoD will be selling our top tier drones.
He also pledged his commitment for peace in the Middle East.
All the while the backdrop here the DNC is flying
a Cutter a logo banner over President Trump's Florida residents today.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Of course, he's getting a lot of criticism over his
plans to accept a luxury plane from Cutter. They say
it'll temporarily serve as Air Force one. I believe that
as much as I believe Alcatraz will be put back
into service, I just don't see this plane ever be
putting into service.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Well, and we talked about the Emollument's clause in the Constitution,
which prohibits an official in the United States from receiving
gifts from foreign heads of state, generally the approval of Congress.
This is not going to a person, as President Trump
pointed out in his truth social post, It's going to
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the Air Force, and then after it serves according to
their plan, after it serves as Air Force one, it
would then be given to the Trump Library. So which
is still the appearance of impropriety is too much. It's
I agree with you too much. Never going to go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Well, and the only thing that's going to do is
line the Trump family pockets after he leaves office. There's
a lot of money to be made in the Middle East,
a lot of money, and they know that. And like
you said yesterday, I think Trump did realize he left
a lot of money on the table during his first
term and that's not going to happen this time around.
In fact, at least two billion has flowed into Trump
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companies in just the last month. Two billion real estate, cryptocurrency,
a private club that's going to open in Washington with
a five hundred thousand dollars membership fee. I mean they
are made and money hand over fist off, this this rain.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
One of the stories that President Trump has repeated over
the last couple of days is his fat friend story.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Have you heard this?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
This is great.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It started with his executive order to reduce the price
of prescription drugs and used his fat friend as an
example of someone who is on a GLP one we
assume and realized that the thirteen hundred dollars dose here
in the United States would only cost about eighty bucks
in other parts of the world.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I mean, I'll tell you a story. Friend of mine
who's business man, very very, very top guy. Most of
you would have heard of him. A highly neurotic, brilliant businessman,
seriously overweight, and he takes the fat shot drug and
he called me up and he said.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
President.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
He used to call me Donald. Now he calls me president.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
So that's nice. Respect.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
But it's a rough guy, smart guy, very success, very rich.
I wouldn't even know how we would know this, but
because he's got comments the president, could I ask you
a question. What I'm in London and I just paid
for this damn fat drug I take. I said, it's
not working.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
He goes on into the specifics of the cost of it,
eighty eight dollars I think for the dose in London
versus thirteen hundred dollars for his cost here in the
United States, which is a crack up story. It's one
of those stories that Trump knows is funny. He knows
it's going to get reactions. But if you're the fat friend,
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you're being held out there to flail in the wind
with your foot like.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
It appears that this is one of the things that
Trump thinks is a weakness overweightness or what have you.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Which is weird because he clearly is not in the
best shape.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Well, the thing is is he's lost a lot of weight,
and there's been a lot of talk that he took
a GLP one. He has no shame in that game.
I wonder the fact that he's doing that in saying
it just it's not the right thing to say. It's
not nice. It's not right nice. And do you know
many people that you're affecting with that.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I mean, I don't know. But it won't matter. It
won't matter.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Pete Boudagi is making some headlines. He's been making his
rounds on podcasts recently and was asked about President Biden's
decision to seek a second term, and he admitted that
it may have hurt deck Democrats and that with the
benefit of hindsight, he says, I think most people would agree,
but that's the case. But he did say he wants
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to turn the page and look to the future, which
apparently is a memo that's gone around. Here's Hakeem Jeffrey's saying,
we're looking to the future.
Speaker 8 (06:43):
There's a number of different revelations coming out about President
Joe Biden's declimb with recent books. Is it helpful for
your caucus for these to come out now?
Speaker 4 (06:52):
And would you want Biden to campaign for House Democrats.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
I'm not looking backward.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
We're looking forward.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Particular moment, here's Chuck Schumer also saying we're looking forward.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Did you really not have any idea that he was
not fit to serve a second term?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Casey, we're looking forward this because you lost a presidential election,
and is that not Joe Biden's responsibility for deciding to
run again.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
We're looking forward.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
That's it. That's it.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
That's the state of the Democratic Party as of right now.
Up next, the movie subscription service that has turned into
kind of a cult.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yes, people treating their subscription to this movie app as
a core personality trait.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
The Sean Diddy Combs trial. Of course, his former girlfriend
Cassie Ventura is on the stand continuing testimony. And what
they're showing now, prosecutors are showing some of the still
images taken from videos of these freak offs, and she
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testified that there were plenty of people that saw him
physically abuse her. She has testified that she was forced
into these raging sex parties. And now some of the
images from the videos of those are being shown to
the jury. The gallery can't see them. They're not being
shown to the lawyers. Lawyers got their own sort of
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a binder, I guess, full of copies of them.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
But the jury is reacting.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
CNN has a reporter in the courtroom and said one
female juror aloed out a deep breath, rested her hand
on her chest as an image was placed on the
monitor before her. Another male juror looked at the screen
at one of the images in his eyes appeared to
move away very quickly. Another male jur immediately looked down
and started writing on his notepad.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
So it's just getting nasty in there.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
The AMCA list is a subscription service.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
It's become quite a cult.
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Speaker 1 (09:45):
The AMCA list. It's not an excuse. Exclusive club membership
costs about twenty to twenty eight bucks a month. Anyone
older than thirteen can join, so no xless exclusivity there.
But as the Wall Street Journal writes this up, it's members, however,
brag about this movie subscription service as if they're part
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of United Airlines Inventation only Global services status. They post
about it on social media. They treat it like a
court personality trade. They try to enlist friends and family
members to join, quite like you know, a cult. The
main benefit of the AMC stubs A list membership is
the right to go up to four movies a week.
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Members get to use a special VIP line to buy concessions.
They can add friends and family members to their entourage
for a showing, as long as they're also in the
A list. I feel like they're paying people to be
this emphatic about the A list status, right, Like there's
something in each post. If somebody's posting about their AMC
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A list status or their their membership, don't you think
that they're getting a perk for that? Because why else
would you post constantly about the fact that you're going
to see four movies a week?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Right, I don't know, it's not a it's you're in
the cult, yes, and I love it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Wait, okay, so tell so tell us more.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
So it's like super easy to get your friends to
like reserve like a role. Let's say you have five
friends and they all have MCA lists and all of us,
why I can do it for everyone, like reserve like
a seat, and it's very like, I don't know, it's
just chill. It's easy, and yeah, the concession lines aren't
necessarily faster than the normal lines. I don't know if
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that's the benefit, but like being able to like reserve
things with your friends is pretty useful and it's like
saved me a lot of time. Instead of like contacting them,
I can make reservation and they'll be like, what is this.
I'm just like hey, want to watch a movie with me?
They're like, no, I'll just cancel it. But it's like
without having their permission, I can like make a reservation for.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
All of us.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Now you pay a month.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Like twelve, I think, like it's not box crazy. Oh wait, no,
I think it's like twenty twenty yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Except okay, so twenty five bucks a month. How many
movies do you go see with this a month?
Speaker 7 (12:13):
Well, now with my new girlfriend Diane, Oh.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Clear this hey, yeah, Keana, get rid of the rest
of the show.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
We're gonna find out all about Diana.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
Well, we we went we were supposed to watch Friendship yesterday. Yeah,
and like we canceled it with air list and then
like we re uh what do you call it?
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Rebooked?
Speaker 7 (12:36):
And then we canceled it again because we got bored
and we're like, let's just stay at home.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
They were busy.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
Exactly, I got you, so we got you know what
I mean, the fact that I could cancel it and
then like re.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Like, yeah, that's nice. It's like Southwest Airlines really exactly.
So uh so, how many movies though, do you go
see a month?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Would you say? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Definitely, like four to five.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
So that makes sense for you because the average movie
theater ticket is what twenty bucks, so that would be
one hundred dollars if you like to see a movie
once a week. My parents said that they'd go see
a movie once a week back in the day, and
so if you could pay twenty five bucks to see.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
As many movies as you want, that's quite the deal.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
That's three food free movies a month if that's your
thing now.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
But the bragging about it? Have you noticed this is there?
What do you think about that?
Speaker 7 (13:26):
I do feel it for certain people that like go
into line like you do, see them like kind of
press themselves up a little bit like m M, you know,
like so yeah, I have experienced that. I have felt
that sometimes I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
But here's the other question. How close are you to
the movie theater?
Speaker 7 (13:42):
I'm in Hollywood, so like I go to the Grove
a bunch or Burbank sixteen yeah, or like Americana, so
like I frequent those three.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Yeah, but the one in Hollywood is it? Are you walkable?
Is it?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I see that's the part that would be a if
I lived somewhere close that it.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Was walkablere's your movie theater, it's probably five miles, six miles.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Mine's like a mile.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Most I think there's movie theaters closer mostly to people
most of the time.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Maybe that's what it, because that would that would make
sense if you're in a city, for example, I mean,
Hollywood's probably if you lived closer to it would be
one of those.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But I feel like I've always been with about a
mile or two away from the theater.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
It's always close to your heart.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I think it's I think it's interesting though, that a
big perk for you is to be able to block
out seats, because when I have gone to the theater,
it's not necessarily packed these days.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
It's been a long time since.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I think the last packed show that I saw was Oppenheimer.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
But it's a great deal if you see four or
five movies, even if you see three movies a month,
twenty five bucks for the service to seat three movies
a month, where you'd be spending eighty dollars and you're
spending twenty five that's a great deal.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, i'd brag about that too.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Hey, sign me up for the cult also Sinners.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
Right now, it's like trying to see that in like
what you call it imax, like it's just sewed out
like that. And like any Marvel film or like any
superhero film, those sell out very quickly, and having the
A list, you can like block out like two days,
you know what I mean. Like sometimes it's I get
a little greedy and I got like, yeah, the day
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releases in the next day, even but I released the
seats later.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
But I say, it's yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That's kind of cool that you can get in there.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yeah, I like that. Uh, Diane or Diana?
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Diane?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Oh Diane? Yeah, it's not my mother, is it? That'd
be weird.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
No, it's great.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Tell me where'd you meet Diane on the apps? On
the apps? And how long has this love been blossoming?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Three months?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Oh, Elmer?
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Why aren't you keeping secrets?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
All right, Well, let's take a break and then we'll
come back and find out more about Diane. Gary and
Shannon will continue.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
New edition.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Since Elmer's been with his girlfriend and for three months,
what kind of parents will they be? Go, Elmer, how
many kids have you talked about having together?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Oh? My god?
Speaker 8 (16:10):
If he has an answer to this, though, Elmer and
I are like, we should be brothers if he genuinely
three months in knows how many kids the two of
them would like to have.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Okay, Elmer, Florias yours? Has it come up yet?
Speaker 7 (16:24):
Uh no, But we have talked about, like what kids
would look like if you know what I mean, mixed
race couple.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Oh oh, well that's the same thing. That's pretty good.
Three months in race couple.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Kids are always the cutest.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Quantity you haven't talked about. I mean, you talked about
quality quantity, and I think that's that's actually.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Are we talking two or five?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
You think how many would you, like, Elmer if you
had your brothers? Well, it depends how much money.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I'm making good point. That's a smart zero.
Speaker 8 (16:52):
If they're not that expensive early on, they get expensive
when they're like teenagers.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Yeah no, let's see maybe two, maybe adopt one?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Oh so you go three or one of those two
would be about.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
I don't know, maybe like one and done.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
It seems to be a growing trend in younger folks.
With all due respect him, right, you're obviously yeah, adoption.
The adoption thing, like people like they grow up saying
that they want to have maybe one of their own,
but they definitely want to adopt another one.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Is that? Because why is that? Elmer? Why would you
like to adopt one?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
It's just been like since I was a kid, I've
always been like, there's a lot of kids out there,
you know?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (17:28):
Is that? But the reason why I think this is
interesting is this is like almost like a cultural hive
mind thing that is within a generation. And I mean,
I'm sure and an economist could dig into what is
the psychological inspiration behind it? But yeah, I hear it
constantly from people who don't have kids yet that there
are more and more people are talking about adopting. It's
interesting where it used to be like a joke when
we were kids, you know what I mean, like like
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that was supposed to be a negative thing, but now
people are like, no, this is what everybody should be doing.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
If you're wondering why Gary's face looks like that, it's
because he's a pure bred family believe in any sort
of crossing of any lines.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
At Gary, why would you bring this up at this time?
Speaker 6 (18:09):
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Well, I mean, if we're going to talk about.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Dogs, we're gonout. I see what you're doing.
Speaker 9 (18:18):
I'm just saying, yes, I don't have any that one
must have really landed, had good job.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
We were all.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Here to see the downfall of I was gonna say.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I was going to say I have adopted people in
my family. I mean, my brother in law was adopted.
But wait, doesn't count. And I'm trying to think of
it's okay, it's all right.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I think it's humans.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
You know, we should be more communal and this should
be like more talking.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yeah, we should take care of like the kids that
don't have like parents.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
That's very nice, protect each other and like, yeah, it's
cool to have your own kids. But imagine if everyone
just like adopted and like to just be like less
said kids.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
In the world.
Speaker 9 (19:02):
You know, as an adopted person, I would rather have
my own than adopt me too.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I don't want that surprise box. As an adopted kid,
I wouldn't want me. I wouldn't want to open that
up and be like, oh great, I've got this for
most of my life.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
One of the things that I brought in to talk
about I think kind of addresses this thing. I'm not
trying to shorn this in at all. I'm sorry if
I'm ruining him per segment. But no, it's that the
idea that I found this article that they did another
study that basically corroborated with this new belief that more
of what people are is genetic than it is there's
more nature than there is nurture. That and it's not
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trying to discount a nurture situation at all, where your
environment and all that stuff does have an impact on you,
but kind of there's this concept that's growing that there's
at your core, your genetics decide who you are and
what's going to happen to you.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I don't believe that, no, because I know both sides.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I know my parents, and I know my biological mother,
and I am just like my mother my mother. I've
met my biological mother. I have a lot of similarities
with her, but she seems much more normal.
Speaker 8 (20:12):
So even like personality and things like that, because I
think there's a tendency to be like I am.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I am very much into the I've learned, at least
from the small sample of information I have for my
own situation, that it's much more nurture over nature.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Fascinating. Well, I guess we're done, then, I guess yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
But I guess it's I mean, it's it's got to
be different.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I mean, like there's a study for everything to say,
you know, together, it can all you know.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Come on, well and you can't. This goes to what
you say. I'm easily persuaded.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
There's a study for that.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Your kids are younger than my kids. I think I
have a better.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I'm closer to a conclusion than you would be, yes,
because I have a better idea of what their adult personalities.
We're like sixty eight years ahead of me, I think,
if I'm correct, sixty eight years six six to eight years.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Yeah, I thought you're making a Shannon now old I am.
You've got him on the ropes from your ear. Yeah,
you're red dog.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
That was pretty good right now, he's laughing inside somewhere face.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
But the idea that the genetics, I mean, we raised
our kids in the same house at the same time,
like they were, they're they're not that far apart in
age two years, two two and a half years. So
the idea that they can come out and be very
different people.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, my brother and I are very different.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Both adopted, separate adoptive fam separate families, you know, and
we are very different like your kids.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
My brother and I are just.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Kids, are two different people.
Speaker 8 (21:44):
In my exactly, there's but again to me, there's the
core of who they are, right. They still they're very
different and they're better people than I am. But at
the core they still have my softness, my sappiness.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
There's like innate stuff in your personality that is genetics,
but then there's the stuff that shapes who you are,
and I think that that stuff is more prominent than
the innate stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
And my brother is really good.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
When it comes to fixing cars, just like his biological
family was.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
On both sides. My family can't fix a car.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
My dad couldn't fix anything, but he has that innate gift.
But his entire personality is the family personality like you
know as well.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
It should be.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
I mean, there also could be argued that, you know,
our brains are kind of wired to find these connections
and to solve the things that don't make sense, and
so we're going to see things the way that we want.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
To see that total, and then how much how much
would your genetics are your genetics malleable? Can can they
change from generation to generation? Whereas you know Shannon's brother's
great at fixing cars but has a very unique personality.
Does his kid do his kids do they have his
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personality because his genes changed. I mean, I don't know
that'd be much more of a different scientific question.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Interesting.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
I think if I think I was going to try
to oversimplify what this study was saying is that I
think it's like they're trying to argue that it's a
sixty forty split and that your environment has maybe a
forty percent or less influence on who you are at
your core being. Like I would almost argue that if
you had not had a positive experience with your adopted family,
that you would probably have a differing perspective as well,
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Like you would probably look at it and not want
to see the similarities.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
You're assuming I had a positive experience.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Well based. Okay, she is very good at this.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Drock Karn will continue justin.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Because I feel like I do see how it hurts.
It hurts.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
A break, I'm gonna take a get an emotional neroic.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
And he was like the oyster knife was like, let
me see your inside.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
I do think it was better that you were able
to get some of it out. I agree, Yeah, Gary
and Shannon kf I live everywhere.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
That's exactly what I thought. I was like, I'm freaking
justin right now, and I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
It's not bad. I mean, you get premature gray, but
in that life.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Is pretty good.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
But you stood up. There was a you were very physical.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You're very like, okay, well, let's not talk about it.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
He just goes into himself like shoulders cry over.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
You know, I crumpled a piece of paper.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
It's not that bad. I mean, depends what's the backstory
of the pride.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
What's the paper? Where's what's the journey?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
What's its journey?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
We humans are very closely related to to chimpanzees and
apes and.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Large large apes yep.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
And there's a study that suggests that as different as
our parenting styles can be among humans, there are different
parenting styles among the great apes.
Speaker 8 (25:17):
So they decided to look at Sumatran orangutangs because the
Sumatra ones are definitely the top notch and because of
any mammal let me get non human animal, they care
for their children longer than anybody else, and it's six
to nine years. So it's still like I think I
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was going to say half, but probably a quarter for
our kids nowadays, depending on what you evolve. And so
they were looking at and what they found was that
there was there was consistent differences between the different mothers
that they like observed over six thousand hours of orangutans
mothering their young. Anyway, they also found that what made
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them feel like this was something that was a personality
trait of the mom was that it would be consistent
through multiple children, like they had their way of doing it,
and there was like variations between how long they would
carry them and how long they would help them with food,
and how long they wanted them to be close to
them as they got older. So there's various points within
their development that a mom would be like, Okay, n
(26:24):
it's time for you to go away from me and
go figure it out.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Well, and let me ask if there's a connection here,
because we just talked about the idea that genetics shape personality.
The genetics are the things that will control these things.
So is this a suggestion perhaps or do you conclude
from that, ye, genetics will determine what kind of a
parent you're going to be.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
I think so I think depending on what you believe,
I mean, I think if you're more leaning science than
I think, this could be an argument that this is
how parenting evolves, like and people evolved that right now.
I mean, there's a strong movement evolutionarily for parenting to
be like very involved in what your kids are doing
well into adulthood. And I think that probably much like
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we talk a lot about homework, how it swings on
a pendulum, like they go from no homework now we
get get caught up on a.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Homework of how you guys parent and your wife's parent.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Is is the way that they were parented or you
were parented.
Speaker 8 (27:16):
I think it's always informed, but I like so for me,
I copied a lot about what I got from my dad,
but then there was this part that I got from
my mom that was very soft and loving, right, And
so I've even though Natalie still handles that my wife,
I feel like there's a lot I've softened. I'm a
lot softer than my dad is in so many.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Ways you always have been. Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Mean, but it's interesting too because as he got.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
Older and I've I'm experienced. I don't know if you
would agree, Gary, we talked about this the three sevens. Right,
zero to seven you play with your kids, and then
seven to fourteen guide you teach them, and then fourteen
to twenty one. It's kind of like you're more of
a coach. I'm sorry, you teach them from seven to fourteen,
and you coach them from fourteen to twenty one, and
that I feel like as I got older, I could
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see my dad also softening and like it felt more pure,
Like there was always the respect that he was my dad,
but it was just it was a different relationship that
became more friendly. And I see that start to happening
happen with my kids right now, that there's this change
that even happens throughout time.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
I my parents were very hands off for the most part,
not that they didn't care, but Dad, for example, it
was just very He's just very hands off. He didn't
know the names of my friends, or he didn't know
I'm pretty sure he knew where my school was, but
I don't if he was tasked with ever picking me
up from school, it would be an adventure for him
(28:39):
to get there, and I I I don't know if
I tried to or I just kind of fell into
that pattern.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
With my kids.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I was much more involved with them than my dad
was with my childhood, but not in a negative.
Speaker 8 (28:56):
I don't look back and I, yeah, you were doing
that because your dad wasn't there, right, or was it?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
I don't know. I mean, I will say this my trend.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
If it were not for my wife encouraging me to
be involved with stuff, I wouldn't have been involved with something. Yeah,
Like I was encouraged like, hey, why don't you coach
a volunteer to coach the baseball team or the soccer
team or something like that, because then you get to
hang out with your kids, And I'm like, yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
There's other kids.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
There's other kids there too, and parents and adults, and like,
I don't I like my kids, but there's a lot
that goes with that. But it was, you know, and
it kind of was the decision of, well, if they
see me involved and if they remember me being involved,
maybe there is a benefit to that that goes beyond
what a benefit I received from my own parents.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
My thing my dad did a version of this, but
not as not to the level that I think I've done,
is that my thing was I wanted to be so
involved that the people that were watching over my kids
would know that I'm involved, and therefore they would pay
more attention to my kids. And it worked like when
they were in elementary school, I would get yard duties
that would come up and be like, hey, your son
hasn't eaten lunch in the past couple of days. Like
they would be aware of that kind of stuff. I
(30:09):
think when they see that investment, it makes sense. But
the thing that also blew my mind about the Rangutans
is that there was one kind of thing that they
saw as a parental trend where the mothers that carried
their kids longer, those kids would develop the ability to
eat on their own sooner and be more independent as
they got older.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Your kids don't even need lunch now, is right.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
I don't even feed them, right, It's not too far
off for themselves now.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
It's going to bark out in the backyard the other day. Listen,
everybody has to grow up their own way. Gar's good kids.
Just thank you. Justin Worsham, of course, is a great person.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
He is a great person.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
I'm still here. This is great for me. Oh, I
didn't realize.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
That we can do more.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Stick around for the next hour We'll make it all
about you.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Early birthday for me.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Guys, Gary and Shannon will continue on right.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
He combs his former girlfriend back on the stand today
in his New York sex crimes trial, Cassie Ventura telling
Jersey for Another Day about the physical abuse she says
she suffered from him during their ten yure relationship. He's
accused of forcing victims to take part in drug and
sex field parties over two decades. Faces life in prison.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
You're soon going to be able to walk through a
part of Santa Monica with an adult beverage in your hand.
They had a six hour meeting last night, but the
city Council in Santa Monica voted unanimously to approve the
open container ordinance that will allow you to walk along
the Third Street promenade between Wilsher and Broadway with alcoholic
beverages in hand. You can buy them at businesses along
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the promenade from eight in the morning until two in
the morning, and then carry those drinks in the approved
to go cups that are not glass or metal.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
The Democratic parties showing signs of life as the President
continues his tour in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
It's where we kick off swamp Watch.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheap and a liar.
And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Yeah, we got The real problem is that our leaders
are done.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
So what I'm not going anywhere so that you train
the swap.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been.
Speaker 7 (01:30):
You know, vans have always been going at President, but
they're not stupid.
Speaker 8 (01:34):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Whether people voting for you were not swamp Watch, They're
all countered.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
The more I think about this plane, the more I
think it's just a symbol. It's never going to be
put into service. It's just a gift.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
It is what it is.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
President Trump's Peace and Prosperity Tour there in the Middle East.
Making a stop in Cutter today, the President ouns announcing
new deals between Cutter and Boeing and the Department of Defense.
Boeing will be selling bless you one more.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I'm on h he's being shy.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I'll tell me what to do.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Boeing will be selling billions of dollars worth of planes
two Cutter DoD will be selling our top tier drones.
He also pledged his commitment for peace in the Middle East.
All the while the backdrop here the DNC is flying
a Cutter a logo banner over President Trump's Florida residents today.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Of course, he's getting a lot of criticism over his
plans to accept a luxury plane from Cutter. They say
it'll temporarily serve as Air Force one. I believe that
as much as I believe Alcatraz will be put back
into service, I just don't see this plane ever be
putting into service.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Well, and we talked about the Emollument's clause in the Constitution,
which prohibits an official in the United States from receiving
gifts from foreign heads of state, generally the approval of Congress.
This is not going to a person, as President Trump
pointed out in his truth social post, It's going to
(03:07):
the Air Force, and then after it serves according to
their plan, after it serves as Air Force one, it
would then be given to the Trump Library. So which
is still the appearance of impropriety is too much. It's
I agree with you too much. Never going to go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Well, and the only thing that's going to do is
line the Trump family pockets after he leaves office. There's
a lot of money to be made in the Middle East,
a lot of money, and they know that. And like
you said yesterday, I think Trump did realize he left
a lot of money on the table during his first
term and that's not going to happen this time around.
In fact, at least two billion has flowed into Trump
(03:48):
companies in just the last month. Two billion real estate, cryptocurrency,
a private club that's going to open in Washington with
a five hundred thousand dollars membership fee. I mean they
are made and money hand over fist off, this this rain.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
One of the stories that President Trump has repeated over
the last couple of days is his fat friend story.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Have you heard this?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
This is great.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It started with his executive order to reduce the price
of prescription drugs and used his fat friend as an
example of someone who is on a GLP one we
assume and realized that the thirteen hundred dollars dose here
in the United States would only cost about eighty bucks
in other parts of the world.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I mean, I'll tell you a story. Friend of mine
who's business man, very very, very top guy. Most of
you would have heard of him. A highly neurotic, brilliant businessman,
seriously overweight, and he takes the fat shot drug and
he called me up and he said.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
President.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
He used to call me Donald. Now he calls me president.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
So that's nice. Respect.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
But it's a rough guy, smart guy, very success, very rich.
I wouldn't even know how we would know this, but
because he's got comments the president, could I ask you
a question. What I'm in London and I just paid
for this damn fat drug I take. I said, it's
not working.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
He goes on into the specifics of the cost of it,
eighty eight dollars I think for the dose in London
versus thirteen hundred dollars for his cost here in the
United States, which is a crack up story. It's one
of those stories that Trump knows is funny. He knows
it's going to get reactions. But if you're the fat friend,
(05:36):
you're being held out there to flail in the wind
with your foot like.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
It appears that this is one of the things that
Trump thinks is a weakness overweightness or what have you.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Which is weird because he clearly is not in the
best shape.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Well, the thing is is he's lost a lot of weight,
and there's been a lot of talk that he took
a GLP one. He has no shame in that game.
I wonder the fact that he's doing that in saying
it just it's not the right thing to say. It's
not nice. It's not right nice. And do you know
many people that you're affecting with that.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I mean, I don't know. But it won't matter. It
won't matter.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Pete Boudagi is making some headlines. He's been making his
rounds on podcasts recently and was asked about President Biden's
decision to seek a second term, and he admitted that
it may have hurt deck Democrats and that with the
benefit of hindsight, he says, I think most people would agree,
but that's the case. But he did say he wants
(06:36):
to turn the page and look to the future, which
apparently is a memo that's gone around. Here's Hakeem Jeffrey's saying,
we're looking to the future.
Speaker 8 (06:43):
There's a number of different revelations coming out about President
Joe Biden's declimb with recent books. Is it helpful for
your caucus for these to come out now?
Speaker 4 (06:52):
And would you want Biden to campaign for House Democrats.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
I'm not looking backward.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
We're looking forward.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Particular moment, here's Chuck Schumer also saying we're looking forward.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Did you really not have any idea that he was
not fit to serve a second term?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Casey, we're looking forward this because you lost a presidential election,
and is that not Joe Biden's responsibility for deciding to
run again.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
We're looking forward.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
That's it. That's it.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
That's the state of the Democratic Party as of right now.
Up next, the movie subscription service that has turned into
kind of a cult.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yes, people treating their subscription to this movie app as
a core personality trait.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
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AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
The Sean Diddy Combs trial. Of course, his former girlfriend
Cassie Ventura is on the stand continuing testimony. And what
they're showing now, prosecutors are showing some of the still
images taken from videos of these freak offs, and she
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testified that there were plenty of people that saw him
physically abuse her. She has testified that she was forced
into these raging sex parties. And now some of the
images from the videos of those are being shown to
the jury. The gallery can't see them. They're not being
shown to the lawyers. Lawyers got their own sort of
(08:34):
a binder, I guess, full of copies of them.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
But the jury is reacting.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
CNN has a reporter in the courtroom and said one
female juror aloed out a deep breath, rested her hand
on her chest as an image was placed on the
monitor before her. Another male juror looked at the screen
at one of the images in his eyes appeared to
move away very quickly. Another male jur immediately looked down
and started writing on his notepad.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
So it's just getting nasty in there.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
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Speaker 1 (09:45):
The AMCA list. It's not an excuse. Exclusive club membership
costs about twenty to twenty eight bucks a month. Anyone
older than thirteen can join, so no xless exclusivity there.
But as the Wall Street Journal writes this up, it's members, however,
brag about this movie subscription service as if they're part
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of United Airlines Inventation only Global services status. They post
about it on social media. They treat it like a
court personality trade. They try to enlist friends and family
members to join, quite like you know, a cult. The
main benefit of the AMC stubs A list membership is
the right to go up to four movies a week.
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Members get to use a special VIP line to buy concessions.
They can add friends and family members to their entourage
for a showing, as long as they're also in the
A list. I feel like they're paying people to be
this emphatic about the A list status, right, Like there's
something in each post. If somebody's posting about their AMC
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A list status or their their membership, don't you think
that they're getting a perk for that? Because why else
would you post constantly about the fact that you're going
to see four movies a week?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Right, I don't know, it's not a it's you're in
the cult, yes, and I love it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Wait, okay, so tell so tell us more.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
So it's like super easy to get your friends to
like reserve like a role. Let's say you have five
friends and they all have MCA lists and all of us,
why I can do it for everyone, like reserve like
a seat, and it's very like, I don't know, it's
just chill. It's easy, and yeah, the concession lines aren't
necessarily faster than the normal lines. I don't know if
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that's the benefit, but like being able to like reserve
things with your friends is pretty useful and it's like
saved me a lot of time. Instead of like contacting them,
I can make reservation and they'll be like, what is this.
I'm just like hey, want to watch a movie with me?
They're like, no, I'll just cancel it. But it's like
without having their permission, I can like make a reservation for.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
All of us.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Now you pay a month.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Like twelve, I think, like it's not box crazy. Oh wait, no,
I think it's like twenty twenty yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Except okay, so twenty five bucks a month. How many
movies do you go see with this a month?
Speaker 7 (12:13):
Well, now with my new girlfriend Diane, Oh.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Clear this hey, yeah, Keana, get rid of the rest
of the show.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
We're gonna find out all about Diana.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
Well, we we went we were supposed to watch Friendship yesterday. Yeah,
and like we canceled it with air list and then
like we re uh what do you call it?
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Rebooked?
Speaker 7 (12:36):
And then we canceled it again because we got bored
and we're like, let's just stay at home.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
They were busy.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
Exactly, I got you, so we got you know what
I mean, the fact that I could cancel it and
then like re.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Like, yeah, that's nice. It's like Southwest Airlines really exactly.
So uh so, how many movies though, do you go
see a month?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Would you say? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Definitely, like four to five.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
So that makes sense for you because the average movie
theater ticket is what twenty bucks, so that would be
one hundred dollars if you like to see a movie
once a week. My parents said that they'd go see
a movie once a week back in the day, and
so if you could pay twenty five bucks to see.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
As many movies as you want, that's quite the deal.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
That's three food free movies a month if that's your
thing now.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
But the bragging about it? Have you noticed this is there?
What do you think about that?
Speaker 7 (13:26):
I do feel it for certain people that like go
into line like you do, see them like kind of
press themselves up a little bit like m M, you know,
like so yeah, I have experienced that. I have felt
that sometimes I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
But here's the other question. How close are you to
the movie theater?
Speaker 7 (13:42):
I'm in Hollywood, so like I go to the Grove
a bunch or Burbank sixteen yeah, or like Americana, so
like I frequent those three.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Yeah, but the one in Hollywood is it? Are you walkable?
Is it?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I see that's the part that would be a if
I lived somewhere close that it.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Was walkablere's your movie theater, it's probably five miles, six miles.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Mine's like a mile.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Most I think there's movie theaters closer mostly to people
most of the time.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Maybe that's what it, because that would that would make
sense if you're in a city, for example, I mean,
Hollywood's probably if you lived closer to it would be
one of those.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But I feel like I've always been with about a
mile or two away from the theater.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
It's always close to your heart.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I think it's I think it's interesting though, that a
big perk for you is to be able to block
out seats, because when I have gone to the theater,
it's not necessarily packed these days.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
It's been a long time since.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I think the last packed show that I saw was Oppenheimer.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
But it's a great deal if you see four or
five movies, even if you see three movies a month,
twenty five bucks for the service to seat three movies
a month, where you'd be spending eighty dollars and you're
spending twenty five that's a great deal.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, i'd brag about that too.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Hey, sign me up for the cult also Sinners.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
Right now, it's like trying to see that in like
what you call it imax, like it's just sewed out
like that. And like any Marvel film or like any
superhero film, those sell out very quickly, and having the
A list, you can like block out like two days,
you know what I mean. Like sometimes it's I get
a little greedy and I got like, yeah, the day
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releases in the next day, even but I released the
seats later.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
But I say, it's yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That's kind of cool that you can get in there.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yeah, I like that. Uh, Diane or Diana?
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Diane?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Oh Diane? Yeah, it's not my mother, is it? That'd
be weird.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
No, it's great.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Tell me where'd you meet Diane on the apps? On
the apps? And how long has this love been blossoming?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Three months?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Oh, Elmer?
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Why aren't you keeping secrets?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
All right, Well, let's take a break and then we'll
come back and find out more about Diane. Gary and
Shannon will continue.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
New edition.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Since Elmer's been with his girlfriend and for three months,
what kind of parents will they be? Go, Elmer, how
many kids have you talked about having together?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Oh? My god?
Speaker 8 (16:10):
If he has an answer to this, though, Elmer and
I are like, we should be brothers if he genuinely
three months in knows how many kids the two of
them would like to have.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Okay, Elmer, Florias yours? Has it come up yet?
Speaker 7 (16:24):
Uh no, But we have talked about, like what kids
would look like if you know what I mean, mixed
race couple.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Oh oh, well that's the same thing. That's pretty good.
Three months in race couple.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Kids are always the cutest.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Quantity you haven't talked about. I mean, you talked about
quality quantity, and I think that's that's actually.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Are we talking two or five?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
You think how many would you, like, Elmer if you
had your brothers? Well, it depends how much money.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I'm making good point. That's a smart zero.
Speaker 8 (16:52):
If they're not that expensive early on, they get expensive
when they're like teenagers.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Yeah no, let's see maybe two, maybe adopt one?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Oh so you go three or one of those two
would be about.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
I don't know, maybe like one and done.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
It seems to be a growing trend in younger folks.
With all due respect him, right, you're obviously yeah, adoption.
The adoption thing, like people like they grow up saying
that they want to have maybe one of their own,
but they definitely want to adopt another one.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Is that? Because why is that? Elmer? Why would you
like to adopt one?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
It's just been like since I was a kid, I've
always been like, there's a lot of kids out there,
you know?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (17:28):
Is that? But the reason why I think this is
interesting is this is like almost like a cultural hive
mind thing that is within a generation. And I mean,
I'm sure and an economist could dig into what is
the psychological inspiration behind it? But yeah, I hear it
constantly from people who don't have kids yet that there
are more and more people are talking about adopting. It's
interesting where it used to be like a joke when
we were kids, you know what I mean, like like
(17:50):
that was supposed to be a negative thing, but now
people are like, no, this is what everybody should be doing.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
If you're wondering why Gary's face looks like that, it's
because he's a pure bred family believe in any sort
of crossing of any lines.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
At Gary, why would you bring this up at this time?
Speaker 6 (18:09):
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Well, I mean, if we're going to talk about.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Dogs, we're gonout. I see what you're doing.
Speaker 9 (18:18):
I'm just saying, yes, I don't have any that one
must have really landed, had good job.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
We were all.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Here to see the downfall of I was gonna say.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I was going to say I have adopted people in
my family. I mean, my brother in law was adopted.
But wait, doesn't count. And I'm trying to think of
it's okay, it's all right.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I think it's humans.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
You know, we should be more communal and this should
be like more talking.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yeah, we should take care of like the kids that
don't have like parents.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
That's very nice, protect each other and like, yeah, it's
cool to have your own kids. But imagine if everyone
just like adopted and like to just be like less
said kids.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
In the world.
Speaker 9 (19:02):
You know, as an adopted person, I would rather have
my own than adopt me too.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I don't want that surprise box. As an adopted kid,
I wouldn't want me. I wouldn't want to open that
up and be like, oh great, I've got this for
most of my life.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
One of the things that I brought in to talk
about I think kind of addresses this thing. I'm not
trying to shorn this in at all. I'm sorry if
I'm ruining him per segment. But no, it's that the
idea that I found this article that they did another
study that basically corroborated with this new belief that more
of what people are is genetic than it is there's
more nature than there is nurture. That and it's not
(19:39):
trying to discount a nurture situation at all, where your
environment and all that stuff does have an impact on you,
but kind of there's this concept that's growing that there's
at your core, your genetics decide who you are and
what's going to happen to you.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I don't believe that, no, because I know both sides.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I know my parents, and I know my biological mother,
and I am just like my mother my mother. I've
met my biological mother. I have a lot of similarities
with her, but she seems much more normal.
Speaker 8 (20:12):
So even like personality and things like that, because I
think there's a tendency to be like I am.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I am very much into the I've learned, at least
from the small sample of information I have for my
own situation, that it's much more nurture over nature.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Fascinating. Well, I guess we're done, then, I guess yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
But I guess it's I mean, it's it's got to
be different.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I mean, like there's a study for everything to say,
you know, together, it can all you know.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Come on, well and you can't. This goes to what
you say. I'm easily persuaded.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
There's a study for that.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Your kids are younger than my kids. I think I
have a better.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I'm closer to a conclusion than you would be, yes,
because I have a better idea of what their adult personalities.
We're like sixty eight years ahead of me, I think,
if I'm correct, sixty eight years six six to eight years.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Yeah, I thought you're making a Shannon now old I am.
You've got him on the ropes from your ear. Yeah,
you're red dog.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
That was pretty good right now, he's laughing inside somewhere face.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
But the idea that the genetics, I mean, we raised
our kids in the same house at the same time,
like they were, they're they're not that far apart in
age two years, two two and a half years. So
the idea that they can come out and be very
different people.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, my brother and I are very different.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Both adopted, separate adoptive fam separate families, you know, and
we are very different like your kids.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
My brother and I are just.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Kids, are two different people.
Speaker 8 (21:44):
In my exactly, there's but again to me, there's the
core of who they are, right. They still they're very
different and they're better people than I am. But at
the core they still have my softness, my sappiness.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
There's like innate stuff in your personality that is genetics,
but then there's the stuff that shapes who you are,
and I think that that stuff is more prominent than
the innate stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
And my brother is really good.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
When it comes to fixing cars, just like his biological
family was.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
On both sides. My family can't fix a car.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
My dad couldn't fix anything, but he has that innate gift.
But his entire personality is the family personality like you
know as well.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
It should be.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
I mean, there also could be argued that, you know,
our brains are kind of wired to find these connections
and to solve the things that don't make sense, and
so we're going to see things the way that we want.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
To see that total, and then how much how much
would your genetics are your genetics malleable? Can can they
change from generation to generation? Whereas you know Shannon's brother's
great at fixing cars but has a very unique personality.
Does his kid do his kids do they have his
(22:57):
personality because his genes changed. I mean, I don't know
that'd be much more of a different scientific question.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Interesting.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
I think if I think I was going to try
to oversimplify what this study was saying is that I
think it's like they're trying to argue that it's a
sixty forty split and that your environment has maybe a
forty percent or less influence on who you are at
your core being. Like I would almost argue that if
you had not had a positive experience with your adopted family,
that you would probably have a differing perspective as well,
(23:27):
Like you would probably look at it and not want
to see the similarities.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
You're assuming I had a positive experience.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Well based. Okay, she is very good at this.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Drock Karn will continue justin.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Because I feel like I do see how it hurts.
It hurts.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
A break, I'm gonna take a get an emotional neroic.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
And he was like the oyster knife was like, let
me see your inside.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
I do think it was better that you were able
to get some of it out. I agree, Yeah, Gary
and Shannon kf I live everywhere.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
That's exactly what I thought. I was like, I'm freaking
justin right now, and I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
It's not bad. I mean, you get premature gray, but
in that life.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Is pretty good.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
But you stood up. There was a you were very physical.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You're very like, okay, well, let's not talk about it.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
He just goes into himself like shoulders cry over.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
You know, I crumpled a piece of paper.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
It's not that bad. I mean, depends what's the backstory
of the pride.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
What's the paper? Where's what's the journey?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
What's its journey?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
We humans are very closely related to to chimpanzees and
apes and.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Large large apes yep.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
And there's a study that suggests that as different as
our parenting styles can be among humans, there are different
parenting styles among the great apes.
Speaker 8 (25:17):
So they decided to look at Sumatran orangutangs because the
Sumatra ones are definitely the top notch and because of
any mammal let me get non human animal, they care
for their children longer than anybody else, and it's six
to nine years. So it's still like I think I
(25:37):
was going to say half, but probably a quarter for
our kids nowadays, depending on what you evolve. And so
they were looking at and what they found was that
there was there was consistent differences between the different mothers
that they like observed over six thousand hours of orangutans
mothering their young. Anyway, they also found that what made
(26:02):
them feel like this was something that was a personality
trait of the mom was that it would be consistent
through multiple children, like they had their way of doing it,
and there was like variations between how long they would
carry them and how long they would help them with food,
and how long they wanted them to be close to
them as they got older. So there's various points within
their development that a mom would be like, Okay, n
(26:24):
it's time for you to go away from me and
go figure it out.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Well, and let me ask if there's a connection here,
because we just talked about the idea that genetics shape personality.
The genetics are the things that will control these things.
So is this a suggestion perhaps or do you conclude
from that, ye, genetics will determine what kind of a
parent you're going to be.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
I think so I think depending on what you believe,
I mean, I think if you're more leaning science than
I think, this could be an argument that this is
how parenting evolves, like and people evolved that right now.
I mean, there's a strong movement evolutionarily for parenting to
be like very involved in what your kids are doing
well into adulthood. And I think that probably much like
(27:03):
we talk a lot about homework, how it swings on
a pendulum, like they go from no homework now we
get get caught up on a.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Homework of how you guys parent and your wife's parent.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Is is the way that they were parented or you
were parented.
Speaker 8 (27:16):
I think it's always informed, but I like so for me,
I copied a lot about what I got from my dad,
but then there was this part that I got from
my mom that was very soft and loving, right, And
so I've even though Natalie still handles that my wife,
I feel like there's a lot I've softened. I'm a
lot softer than my dad is in so many.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Ways you always have been. Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Mean, but it's interesting too because as he got.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
Older and I've I'm experienced. I don't know if you
would agree, Gary, we talked about this the three sevens. Right,
zero to seven you play with your kids, and then
seven to fourteen guide you teach them, and then fourteen
to twenty one. It's kind of like you're more of
a coach. I'm sorry, you teach them from seven to fourteen,
and you coach them from fourteen to twenty one, and
that I feel like as I got older, I could
(28:02):
see my dad also softening and like it felt more pure,
Like there was always the respect that he was my dad,
but it was just it was a different relationship that
became more friendly. And I see that start to happening
happen with my kids right now, that there's this change
that even happens throughout time.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
I my parents were very hands off for the most part,
not that they didn't care, but Dad, for example, it
was just very He's just very hands off. He didn't
know the names of my friends, or he didn't know
I'm pretty sure he knew where my school was, but
I don't if he was tasked with ever picking me
up from school, it would be an adventure for him
(28:39):
to get there, and I I I don't know if
I tried to or I just kind of fell into
that pattern.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
With my kids.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I was much more involved with them than my dad
was with my childhood, but not in a negative.
Speaker 8 (28:56):
I don't look back and I, yeah, you were doing
that because your dad wasn't there, right, or was it?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
I don't know. I mean, I will say this my trend.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
If it were not for my wife encouraging me to
be involved with stuff, I wouldn't have been involved with something. Yeah,
Like I was encouraged like, hey, why don't you coach
a volunteer to coach the baseball team or the soccer
team or something like that, because then you get to
hang out with your kids, And I'm like, yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
There's other kids.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
There's other kids there too, and parents and adults, and like,
I don't I like my kids, but there's a lot
that goes with that. But it was, you know, and
it kind of was the decision of, well, if they
see me involved and if they remember me being involved,
maybe there is a benefit to that that goes beyond
what a benefit I received from my own parents.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
My thing my dad did a version of this, but
not as not to the level that I think I've done,
is that my thing was I wanted to be so
involved that the people that were watching over my kids
would know that I'm involved, and therefore they would pay
more attention to my kids. And it worked like when
they were in elementary school, I would get yard duties
that would come up and be like, hey, your son
hasn't eaten lunch in the past couple of days. Like
they would be aware of that kind of stuff. I
(30:09):
think when they see that investment, it makes sense. But
the thing that also blew my mind about the Rangutans
is that there was one kind of thing that they
saw as a parental trend where the mothers that carried
their kids longer, those kids would develop the ability to
eat on their own sooner and be more independent as
they got older.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Your kids don't even need lunch now, is right.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
I don't even feed them, right, It's not too far
off for themselves now.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
It's going to bark out in the backyard the other day. Listen,
everybody has to grow up their own way. Gar's good kids.
Just thank you. Justin Worsham, of course, is a great person.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
He is a great person.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
I'm still here. This is great for me. Oh, I
didn't realize.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
That we can do more.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Stick around for the next hour We'll make it all
about you.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Early birthday for me.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Guys, Gary and Shannon will continue on right.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
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Speaker 3 (31:07):
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