May 27, 2025 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Police say that sixty five people now were injured when
a car ran into a crowd of Liverpool soccer fans
pay here, say liberals celebrating their team's Premier League championship.
Eleven are still in the hospital as of today, or
as they say in England, they are still in hospital.
Assistant Chief Constable of Mary's Merseyside Police said the patients
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are all stable. Fifty of the casualties did require hospital treatment.
They have arrested a fifty three year old man on
suspicion of attempted murder. At this point, they said, he
is being held on suspicion of dangerous driving, driving on drugs,
but at this point not a terrorist act.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Trump now says Putin is playing with fire. This after
his comments Trump's comments over the weekend that Putin is
absolutely crazy crazy in all caps, things are getting a
little hostile. It's where we kick off swamp watch.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar,
and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipops
we got. The real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
So what I'm not going anywhere. So now Ukraine the.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Squat, I can imagine what can be and be unburdened
by what has been. You know, Americans have always been
gone at president, but they're not stupid.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Whether people voted for you were not. Swamp watch, they're
all counter knowing.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Okay, something weird is happening on the whole truth social thing.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
But okay, because of the president.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
And his what's happening, Well, so let's explain what's President
Trump is unhappy with Vladimir Putin and made it so
made it right.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Moscow continues to batter Ukraine. Trump is in the middle
of trying to get together a peace deal to end
the war, and Putin's been kind of telling Trump what
he wants to hear, playing a foot seat with him
by the same token, and at the same time attacking Ukraine.
So today Trump accused Putin of, in his words, playing
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with fire. He wrote in Truth Social late this morning.
What Vladimir Putin doesn't realize is that if it weren't
for me, lots of really bad things would have already
happened to Russia, and I mean really bad ball caps.
He's playing with fire. This is a big change in
the Trump administration's approach to the Kremlin. This, you know,
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this comes on the heels of the administration blaming Zelensky
for triggering the war between Russia and Ukraine. And he
seemed to kind of one eighty that whole bit yesterday
and called Putin absolutely crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
This was him just off of Air Force one.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I'm not happy with what Putin's doings, killing a lot
of people, and I don't know what the hell happened
to Putin. I've known him a long time, always gotten
along with them. But he's sending rockets into cities and
killing people, and I don't like it at all. Okay,
we're in the middle of talking and he's shooting rockets
and Tikiev and other cities.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
I don't like it at all.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
This was one of the deadliest attacks in months that
he's referencing. It happened over the weekend. At least twelve
people were killed in a combined drone and missile attack
it struck over thirty Ukrainian cities. This also coincided with
the largest prisoner swap since the start of the invasion
in Ukraine in twenty twenty two. So this was the
exchange of one thousand prisoners the same day as Russia's
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massive attack. So Trump was like taking a victory lap
over that. Right, this is a huge diplomatic breakthrough. I
was involved with brokering this prisoner swap. I'm a big
deal here. And then Putin turns around and attacks Ukraine
and it's like.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Wait, what hundreds of drones and missiles and there's again.
Trump has every reason to not be happy with it,
but then do something about it. Don't just complain that
your friend is letting you down or embarrassing you. Do
something about it. Now, I said, something weird is happening.
Republican Senator Chuck Grassley out of Iowa is trying to
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I guess out Trump Trump in his social media posts,
because what he said is this is this morning on Twitter.
I believe President Trump no capitals, was sincere when he
thought his friendship w Putin wld end the war with
friendship with Putin would end the war again. I don't
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know if he's trying to text like he's doing this
on purpose, or if he's just screwing it up. Now
that being the case, all caps, it's time for sanctions
strong enough nuf so Putin knows game over.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Is he doing this because he thinks that's going to
catch Donald Trump's eye.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
He thinks he's speaking Trump's language.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Happening, what's going on on Trump's playing field.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Now to that end, the Senate has a brew has
put together I shouldn't say approved a package of sanctions
that already has overwhelming support, like eighty plus senators are
supporting this new paction, a package of sanctions against Russia,
including a five hundred percent tariff on imports from any
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nation that purchases Russian oil, petroleum products, natural gas, or uranium.
That is not just the sanction on Russia, but the
sanctions on countries that continue to do business with Russia.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
This is a problem. Trump does business with Russia, his
family does business with Russia. He is well entrenched in
Russian banks. That's where they get a lot of their
funding and have for a long time. And you've got
to follow the money, and it's not financially advantageous for
Trump and his family and his brand to pick a
fight with Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
It is not.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
One of the things that's also happened is Germany's new
chancellor has lifted any range restrictions the weapons that we've
been giving to Ukraine. We've been telling them, yeah, you
can use them, but you've got to do them defensively
or not too far into Russia if you're going to
use them as offensive weapons. And now Germany's Chancellor, Friedrich
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Friedrich thinks how you say it, Merz has said there
are no restrictions on the range. Kremlin doesn't like that
because they say that leaves us no other option but
to go nuclear if necessary.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Nearly ten years ago, when we met Anthony Wiener in
Philadelphia at the DNC, it was after his first fall
from grace. He was persona on grata there and he
pulled up a chair and we did an interview with him,
and I said to him, if I remember correctly, well,
what are you going to do now? You need the
attention because he does. You know, people like this, the
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people that need at ten he wasn't going to be
standing around with his literal genitals in his hand. For
very long. He had his second fall from grace shortly
after that conversation, when he was caught sending pictures of
his genitals with his son in the frame to college
girls in the Midwest. Now, Anthony Wiener, still needing attention,
is back trying to what was the headline soft launch
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his comeback.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
We'll tell you all about it.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Did you make an appointment to go see somebody like
a GP or something just for fun, just because we
thought it'd be something fun to do for the show.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
No, oh, I thought you.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I thought there was movement on that, just to check
things out to scale, blood work done.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
No, I'm not fun for the summer. Fun for the summer. Okay,
that sounds like fun.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
What don't you think you should just get things looked at.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
For baseline stuff. Yes, I'm probably it's probably a good
idea to do it. My PSA numbers are very very low,
so that's so thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Your public service announcement.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
No, my prostate specific antigen numbers, oh very low.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Do you take those? Do I take them? You take?
You know what your numbers are?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
When I last time I had my blood check. Yes, oh,
so you do get your blood checked. I have had
my blood checked. I don't ask yet. It's been four years,
but it's that's okay. Four years is acceptable. I was
in my forties, then, is that okay?
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I just think you know a little baseline checking from
here and there, baseline checking. You have a history of
heart disease in your family. I also have a history
of prostate cancer.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
My fan, Right, so do you know this song.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Hang On Sloopy, Sloopy, hang on devor do you want
to do it right now?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
We have a corrections and retractions.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Yeah, we do.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Well, he's not dead, No, no, he is, he is.
But you know I I quickly I grabbed the story
and I said, sloppy, Well, it looks like sloppy when
you were on Sloppy, but it's you're too young, too young,
thank you, thank you, because I the only reason I
don't know that song. I know the song really well
because my dad listened to oldies driving us into school,
(09:21):
So I know all the music of the fifties and
sixties down ass. Okay, my brother and I can do
a real fun karaoke.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Of those times.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Okay, well, thank you for allowing me to us on
the song, you know, save some face kind of You're welcome.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
We want you to be the best deb brother that
you can be. Oh, thank you. Somebody's got yes exactly. Hey,
do you remember this whole thing? Do you remember? You
remember Anthony wien Er? Did you send the tweet? Is
that a photograph of you? And why not call for
an investigator?
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Hi, answers, I did not, and that I hate that.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
I know what a system was hacked. I was pranktical.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
It's fairly common one.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
People make fun of my name all the time.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
When your name Wiener, you kind of get that, Is
that right?
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Right? I don't remember the timeline on this. Let me see.
Did you ask him if you could see his phone
to see when I look through the pictures on your phone?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Well, if you want to see a lot of pictures
of Jordan.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
And my son, Yeah, that's all we have. You're letting
me down.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
You are clearly not you. It's found. It has been
a long time since you had a four and a half.
Ye all that is like some aces stuff aces aces,
it's aces.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
And I love that he's calling me old when I
was like thirty four ish, not even thirty four years
old at that time. Like I get playing the old card,
like you don't know what it's like to have a
four and a half year old running around if you're
like sixty, But like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
This was and that that portion of the interview or
that portion of an interview came from the twenty sixteen
Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia. And again you mentioned he
was persona and on Grada. He was walking around the wells.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Fargo, sew salmon colored pants, like like J Crew salmon
tight colored pants, and he nobody was talking to him.
He didn't have a body person nothing. He was just
naked walking around there basically. And so I I time
has made me love that interview even more.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
This was him a little bit later.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
What's next for you? I mean, you've got to get
back into side.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Are going to miss the how do I possibly? I
was gonna say, you're gonna miss the attention KF I
am six forty with with the Gary and Channon show.
I'm totally this is it. I've peaked at great question
kind of. Now I do one of those trips where
I'd climb the mountains of seven continents or something, and
then and that.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Was it very similar, very similar to being on the show.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
But you know what he went on to do was
completely sandbag that election for Hillary Clinton with the help
of Debbie Wasserman. I mean, between the two big stories
that broke that week or the week after for him,
I mean that the fact that Bernie Sanders people were
all completely.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Shut out, shut out.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I remember that couple crying, the Bernie Sanders couple that
we met on the street and we were asking them
about what I mean, You guys are in Philly.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
You thought this might be it. There was a chance
that you guys would They.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Felt succeeded, and they were, they were Those were valid feelings.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Let me remind you that of the three of us
that were sitting at that table that day, you me,
Anthony Wiener, only one of us is a registered sex offender. Well,
you don't know everything, right, I can guarantee that one
of us is not a registered sex offender. I am
also not a r Okay, so the two of us
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not registered sex offenders.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
He is running, guys, He's running for New York City Council.
He that was a fifteen year old He was texting
by the way. I was just gonna I keep in
my head, it's like an eighteen or nineteen year old
college co ed all the time that he's sexting, not
the case a fifteen thirteen year old.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Good lord, again, it happened that story came out weeks
after you asked him this.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Can I look through the pictures on your phone?
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Could you imagine ladies who trust your gut? Anthony Wiener
running for New York City Council six years after he
was released from his twenty one month stay behind bars
for sexting a fifteen year old.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
He was last.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Seen on the streets of New York with a handful
of flyers, with a woman holding a campaign sign, talking
to a mother with a small child, hugging an older woman.
Is it Is it interesting that all of these are
females in his circle at this point taking photos with
potential women?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Are women are more more for giving?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Although you know, I can't believe I asked him that question.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
The show was pretty new then too.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Had we already been screwed over by Richard Dreyfus was
the dow off the lily in terms of interviews and
being polite to people?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Maybe maybe I was maybe that was not about the milk,
you know, it was about Richard us.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, because that was pretty Uh, that was pretty prickly
of me to say that to him.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
This was also late in the week, if I remember correct,
Wednesday or Thursday.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Yeah, so we're gamy.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, you started wearing the same clothes day after day. Yeah,
I think that was like Wednesday and Thursday. You did
the same outfit and and you had Philly cheese steak
remsans on your shirt or as they say, blouse.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, you ironed every day.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Well not true, that was the second half. Remember they
lost our luggage, so we had the hotel had to
do the laundry for us, and they were earn my
shirts pressed, so I didn't do.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I thought it was very impressive that you had ironed
all your clothes every day.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
That's sweet considering once you step out of the uber
in one hundred degree heat and rain.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
It's broken. All of that is gone.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
His By the way, the person running against him is
a woman named Sarah Batchu. She proposed a bill nicknamed
the Wiener Act a couple of months ago that would
ban registered sex offenders from holding any public.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Office in the city.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Why is that not already a law.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
That was great and called it the Wiener Act.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, that's great. We should you know what we should
get them on? Nope, yes we should, we should. We shall,
I say we shall, we shall. Let's see the words.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Uh yeah, all right?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Young men calling nine to one one heart.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Attack or panic attack? Heart attack, panic attack.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Panic attacks are scary and it does feel like something
is really wrong. But these are I'm assuming these are
young people that are yep, yeah, okay, yep. We're talking
like a couple cups of coffee too much. Maybe not
an actual panic attack. Toxidrome, it has a name.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Sorry, I didn't want to look at you.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I went to the hospital with that too.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
But that was legit. Your heart was literally racist, Yeah
it was.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
But come on, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Cassie Ventura is going into labor. Oh really, it seems
like that she left the courtroom for the hospital.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Very dramatic.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Sources to TMZ, you say Cassie was rushed to the
New York hospital. She is in the labor and deliver
a unit. As we know, she was very pregnant, so
as you can as you know, if you've made a baby,
if you had a baby, sometimes stress We'll move along
the process, and how could this not be stressful. She
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has showed up to court for four straight days for
intense testimony about their relationship.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
She has two other kids too, by her current husband.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I I don't know, that is I do not know.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Yes, yes, we'll do true crime Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
By the way, when we get to twelve thirty, there's
some updates on that Idaho quadruple murder case. Brian Cobroker,
of course accused of killing those CODs, and they are
closer to trial, but it has not been without some
speed bumps along the way.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
So we'll talk about that.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Men are about half as likely to be diagnosed with
an anxiety disorder compared to women. I'm going to repeat
that because that surprised me. Men about half as likely
to be diagnosed with an anxiety disorder compared to women.
And then this study out of Australia suggests that some
men feel pressure to be fearless to hide their emotions.
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Others simply don't understand or have the language to describe
the symptoms of the anxieties that they feel. Your face
is their emotional language is weak, shall we say?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
So?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
This means that boys grow up believing that their male
role models don't get anxious. They don't see dad or
grandpa or their uncle get anxious. True, so they themselves,
if they feel anxious, think that something is wrong with them.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
I can see that.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
So then you start this biofeedback loop where you start
convincing yourself, googling prep did I feel Did I.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Just have a heart attack?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I might have just had a heart attack, And then
you start getting nervous about it. You develop these symptoms
in yourself and you call nine to one one. This
story actually looked at, or, I should say, the study
looked at the notes of paramedics who treated men between
the ages end boys between fifteen and twenty five years old,
seven hundred of them, and they said men are encouraged
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to talk about anxiety. They can describe various challenges like
repetitive worries, feeling out of control, and in many cases,
intense physical symptoms high rate of heart beats, shortness of breath,
body pains, tremors, and headaches. One study said that a
lot of times anxious men will call the ambulance, specifically
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younger men will call the ambulance. They said, many young
men turn to ambulances in crisis. Anxiety accounts for ten
percent of male ambulance attendances for mental health concerns.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Why do you think this is happening? Is it being
reported more or what have you? Because this is nothing
new that men don't talk about their emotions. I mean,
that's not a new generation type of a thing. Is
there something making men more anxious? Is it the loneliness
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thing where men aren't talking to other men or really
anybody else? I think maybe they go hand in hand
if if men, because well the diamond does in the
stays that say, young men are lonelier now than they
have been for whatever reason. Maybe it's they're isolating more.
They and because they're isolating more, they're not talking to
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people face to face. Talking to people face to face
can definitely ease anxiety. Friendships, things like that, just getting
things off your chest or what have You don't have
to sit down and have like major conversations about feelings
and emotions. Just talking to somebody about your day or whatever.
I think goes a long way in that regard. And
if you're isolating and you don't have that outlet. I
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guess that's where more anxiety would come in. I mean,
young men aren't getting married. I think that you know,
our grandparents got married when they were what twenty two
twenty three. So even if they're not having these like
big conversations with about their emotions, they're still talking to
somebody in the house every day.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Should be Yeah, there are three things that they refer to.
Bodily symptoms, onset of bodily symptoms, that is very quick.
That's one of the things that it kind of is
that self fulfilling prophecy. You start to think, why are
my hands tingling? I must be having a problem. Then
that sort of convinces your body to follow through with
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that problem.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
The mind is so powerful, especially at least I found
for personally, if I think I'm having anxiety or a
panic attack, my mind will take that ball and run
all the way to the goal line with it and
nothing to do.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
With trophy winning run on rade to the end zone.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
They also say that severe anxiety is very often triggered
or worsened by substance abuse. Yes that if you start
to feel yourself I need something to calm myself down.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
That actually can work against you in terms of it.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Will do it will bomb you down right now, but
you're gonna have to deal with that the next day.
The anxiety does not go away. In fact, it makes
it worse. I have a lot of girlfriends who just
stop drinking because the next day and somebody else's famous,
Oh on the Housewives, it's her name, Kyle Richards.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Same thing.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
She felt so much anxiety after she went out for
a night drinking that it was like, I don't want
to feel this way anymore. The next day for whatever reason,
whatever chemical reaction that had, it was manifesting an anxiety.
I have a couple of girlfriends same thing. They stopped
having those nights out and drinking to excess that anxiety
went away.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I think there's two other things, and they don't point out.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
It's like when you get older, the way your body
handles a hangover.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Oh yeah, it could just be different.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
It's different than the headache and the right sensitivity to brightness. Yeah,
it's probably a more mental right. There are two things
that are not in the study that I would say
probably have an impact on it. I don't know if
they would be able to quantify it because of the
way they did this study. But lack of physical movement,
like young men aren't exercising the ways that.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
They used to, also makes you feel good and totally
decreases any sort of anxiety.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Right, But and then a sort of an offshoot of that,
or that may be a symptom of the bigger problem,
which is we're not teaching people how to deal with anxiety.
We've not told them, Hey, there are things that you
can do to maintain a consistent outlet.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Moving around, like moving around.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, or if you do start to feel that way,
you know, it may not be prophylactic. You may not
be able to run five miles a day just to
kind of calm your brain down, but it may require.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
You to get up off the couch.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
If you start to feel that way, go do something physical,
Do something that's outside of your comfort zone.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Just a walk, even just a walk, walk the dog,
or if.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
You don't have a dog, walk yourself, put a leash
around your own neck.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Well, that gets into a little bit of stress. Weird suicide, Okay,
because there's been a couple of those.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
All right, up next, we told you about these mountain climbers.
They were trying to make it to Everest, to the
top and back and record time.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
They did it. They certainly did well. They have a
lot of money. And here's the other thing. That's what
the key is.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Actual mountain climbers are saying they should be banned from mountain.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
They should and everyone who's publicizing it, including us, although
we'll do a responsible job, it is part of the
problem because how many people will read or hear this
story and be like.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Well, if I could do it, I could do it.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
And then they go up there and they die and
they put rescuers at risk.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Who was that this guy?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, that's the guy that thinks he could go up
about without any training.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
He also has a cold apparently, I don't know. I
just met him. Gary and shann will continue.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
The Trump administration is asking federal agencies to cancel contracts
with Harvard worth about one hundred million dollars. This intensifies
the fight between the president and the oldest and wealthiest
university in America. The government already canceled more than two
point six billion in federal research grants for Harvard. Harvard
(25:25):
has pushed back on the President's demands for changes to.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Several of its policies.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
A very bad day in Gaza, which is there have
been many lately, but chaos erupted on the second day
of aid operations by a new US backed group there.
Palestinians completely overwhelmed the center that is distributing food today,
breaking through fences. Nearby Israeli troops had to fire warning
shots and then setting people run in the opposite way
(25:53):
and panic. The Israeli military later said the situation was
brought under control, but at least three Esthenians were injured
in what was supposed to be a food distribution.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
For British men, who we talked about a few weeks
ago when we heard about their plan, have shrunken the
timeline dramatically when it comes to climbing Mount Everest, traveling
from London to the summit and back in less than
a week.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
While this does make the news, it is a stupid, foolish,
fatal plan. In nine point nine out of ten cases
they skipped the acclamation time the adjustment period by inhaling
xenon gas, which the jury still out on that. By
the way, I said when we talked about their plan
(26:46):
and what they thought would be their secret weapon and
xenon gas that to your point before it's all mental.
A lot of the scientists said that it's not going
to have any effect, maybe detrimental if anything, but if
you think you have a secret weapon, that's going to
go a long way, well physically and mentally.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
So scientifically, they say they don't know exactly how this
is supposed to work that they have shown. Xenon has
been known for years to activate a molecule called the
hypoxia inducible factor. It's also turned on when people acclimate
to low oxygen. So what these people claim to have
done is found a way to switch on the adaptation
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to the low oxygen levels, because obviously you're at such
an altitude twenty six thousand feet that there is very
little oxygen up there. If you're climbing the regular way,
you're taking supplemental oxygen with you but still suffering the
effects of low oxygen. What these guys did was ten
weeks before the expedition, they started sleeping in hypoxic tents
(27:50):
that lowers the oxygen levels in the air would acclimatize
them to the conditions. Instead of what many other people do,
which is travel to the mountain and gradually make your
way up, as you know, a week at this level
and then go up in another week at that level,
and so on.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
If you're a climber, or if you've even seen the
major motion picture Everest the way that I have so
very base, rudimentary knowledge of this, you have to have
respect for the mountain. You have to have respect for
the people who came before, who the people who know
the mountain. It's all about that, really, and this seems
to fly in the face of that. And it's not
(28:30):
just this group of guys. They plan to keep on
doing this. Lucas Furtenbach is the guy who organized the exhibition,
and he says that this group showed that it can work,
and that beginning next year he plans to offer two
week round trip excursions to Mount Everest using the Xenon gas,
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cutting the typical time needed to scale the mountain by
several weeks.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
And you know what he's going to do.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
That he's going to make an s ton of money
right out of the gate, and people are gonna die.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I was just gonna say, even if he ends up
pulling bodies off of that mountain.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
He's gonna bee, He's.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Not gonna pull him off. You just leave him up there.
That's all you can do.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
So Furtenbach says that that summit took less than three days,
which was one of the fastest times for a group
that had not actually acclimatized on the mountain itself. The
record goes to, thankfully, a sherpa who did it in
just under eleven hours. What was that guy running eleven hours?
(29:31):
Lak Pa Gelu is one of the sherpas that supposedly
holds the record for that eleven hour climb. But the
rapid climb by this British group and the use of
the xenon has caught the eye of the Nepalese government.
They are potentially looking at regular I mean, they regulate
who goes in and out of Everest, and the Nepalese
(29:52):
government may do what they can to prevent tourists like
that from doing things like that.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I wonder also, and I don't know because I'm not
in any of the online forums with master climbers, but
if it's kind of like an asterisk climb, if you
use xenon gas, jury still out A lot of people
don't believe it does anything. It could be to your detriment.
It could help you out. But is that like a
Barry Bond's home run record situation where it's like, oh,
(30:19):
to use the xenon gap, then you didn't really climb Everest, right,
Like there's got to be an ever purest population that's
just like no, unless you do it the right way
and do it the way that you should do it
and acclimate and all the things, you're not really doing it.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Well. He I mean, you made a great point.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
This is one of the luxuries of having disposable income
like this, where you can spend ten weeks in a
hypoxic tent. Yeah, and then pay an anesthesiologist to infuse your.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Mask with xenon gas.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Another ask, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
He claims.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Again, Furtenbach claims that they still used shirpas, which is
a requirement based on the Nepalese government, that shorter times
on the mountain were safer because it reduces the chance
that the climbers would be exposed to other health threats,
things like avalanches or the hypothermia or the very common
fall on Everest. And he said if the World Anti
(31:10):
Doping Agency, which I guess has somehow has say over this.
If they do prohibit it, it wouldn't apply to mountaineering
because it's not a regulated competitive sport, but that they
may take may make xenon gas illegal when it comes
to other sporting competitions.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
So, well, look at that? Would you look at that?
It is noon o'clock? Well nearly. Can you believe we're
already at noon?
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah? Yeah, it feels like it's been a while.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
It does.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I'm sorry, I feel like the day is flying by.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Who's that?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
I'm sorry? That was you? You know, I give you a.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Week off almost I appreciate from me, thank you? And
this is and this is how you have So for.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
All of the R and R race next week, it's
a lot.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
So work on being a little bit more fake.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
I'll see what I can do.
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Police say that sixty five people now were injured when
a car ran into a crowd of Liverpool soccer fans
pay here, say liberals celebrating their team's Premier League championship.
Eleven are still in the hospital as of today, or
as they say in England, they are still in hospital.
Assistant Chief Constable of Mary's Merseyside Police said the patients
(00:31):
are all stable. Fifty of the casualties did require hospital treatment.
They have arrested a fifty three year old man on
suspicion of attempted murder. At this point, they said, he
is being held on suspicion of dangerous driving, driving on drugs,
but at this point not a terrorist act.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Trump now says Putin is playing with fire. This after
his comments Trump's comments over the weekend that Putin is
absolutely crazy crazy in all caps, things are getting a
little hostile. It's where we kick off swamp watch.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar,
and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipops
we got. The real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
So what I'm not going anywhere. So now Ukraine the.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Squat, I can imagine what can be and be unburdened
by what has been. You know, Americans have always been
gone at president, but they're not stupid.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Whether people voted for you were not. Swamp watch, they're
all counter knowing.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Okay, something weird is happening on the whole truth social thing.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
But okay, because of the president.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
And his what's happening, Well, so let's explain what's President
Trump is unhappy with Vladimir Putin and made it so
made it right.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Moscow continues to batter Ukraine. Trump is in the middle
of trying to get together a peace deal to end
the war, and Putin's been kind of telling Trump what
he wants to hear, playing a foot seat with him
by the same token, and at the same time attacking Ukraine.
So today Trump accused Putin of, in his words, playing
(02:13):
with fire. He wrote in Truth Social late this morning.
What Vladimir Putin doesn't realize is that if it weren't
for me, lots of really bad things would have already
happened to Russia, and I mean really bad ball caps.
He's playing with fire. This is a big change in
the Trump administration's approach to the Kremlin. This, you know,
(02:39):
this comes on the heels of the administration blaming Zelensky
for triggering the war between Russia and Ukraine. And he
seemed to kind of one eighty that whole bit yesterday
and called Putin absolutely crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
This was him just off of Air Force one.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I'm not happy with what Putin's doings, killing a lot
of people, and I don't know what the hell happened
to Putin. I've known him a long time, always gotten
along with them. But he's sending rockets into cities and
killing people, and I don't like it at all. Okay,
we're in the middle of talking and he's shooting rockets
and Tikiev and other cities.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
I don't like it at all.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
This was one of the deadliest attacks in months that
he's referencing. It happened over the weekend. At least twelve
people were killed in a combined drone and missile attack
it struck over thirty Ukrainian cities. This also coincided with
the largest prisoner swap since the start of the invasion
in Ukraine in twenty twenty two. So this was the
exchange of one thousand prisoners the same day as Russia's
(03:43):
massive attack. So Trump was like taking a victory lap
over that. Right, this is a huge diplomatic breakthrough. I
was involved with brokering this prisoner swap. I'm a big
deal here. And then Putin turns around and attacks Ukraine
and it's like.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Wait, what hundreds of drones and missiles and there's again.
Trump has every reason to not be happy with it,
but then do something about it. Don't just complain that
your friend is letting you down or embarrassing you. Do
something about it. Now, I said, something weird is happening.
Republican Senator Chuck Grassley out of Iowa is trying to
(04:21):
I guess out Trump Trump in his social media posts,
because what he said is this is this morning on Twitter.
I believe President Trump no capitals, was sincere when he
thought his friendship w Putin wld end the war with
friendship with Putin would end the war again. I don't
(04:42):
know if he's trying to text like he's doing this
on purpose, or if he's just screwing it up. Now
that being the case, all caps, it's time for sanctions
strong enough nuf so Putin knows game over.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Is he doing this because he thinks that's going to
catch Donald Trump's eye.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
He thinks he's speaking Trump's language.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Happening, what's going on on Trump's playing field.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Now to that end, the Senate has a brew has
put together I shouldn't say approved a package of sanctions
that already has overwhelming support, like eighty plus senators are
supporting this new paction, a package of sanctions against Russia,
including a five hundred percent tariff on imports from any
(05:27):
nation that purchases Russian oil, petroleum products, natural gas, or uranium.
That is not just the sanction on Russia, but the
sanctions on countries that continue to do business with Russia.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
This is a problem. Trump does business with Russia, his
family does business with Russia. He is well entrenched in
Russian banks. That's where they get a lot of their
funding and have for a long time. And you've got
to follow the money, and it's not financially advantageous for
Trump and his family and his brand to pick a
fight with Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
It is not.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
One of the things that's also happened is Germany's new
chancellor has lifted any range restrictions the weapons that we've
been giving to Ukraine. We've been telling them, yeah, you
can use them, but you've got to do them defensively
or not too far into Russia if you're going to
use them as offensive weapons. And now Germany's Chancellor, Friedrich
(06:25):
Friedrich thinks how you say it, Merz has said there
are no restrictions on the range. Kremlin doesn't like that
because they say that leaves us no other option but
to go nuclear if necessary.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Nearly ten years ago, when we met Anthony Wiener in
Philadelphia at the DNC, it was after his first fall
from grace. He was persona on grata there and he
pulled up a chair and we did an interview with him,
and I said to him, if I remember correctly, well,
what are you going to do now? You need the
attention because he does. You know, people like this, the
(06:58):
people that need at ten he wasn't going to be
standing around with his literal genitals in his hand. For
very long. He had his second fall from grace shortly
after that conversation, when he was caught sending pictures of
his genitals with his son in the frame to college
girls in the Midwest. Now, Anthony Wiener, still needing attention,
is back trying to what was the headline soft launch
(07:22):
his comeback.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
We'll tell you all about it.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Did you make an appointment to go see somebody like
a GP or something just for fun, just because we
thought it'd be something fun to do for the show.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
No, oh, I thought you.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I thought there was movement on that, just to check
things out to scale, blood work done.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
No, I'm not fun for the summer. Fun for the summer. Okay,
that sounds like fun.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
What don't you think you should just get things looked at.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
For baseline stuff. Yes, I'm probably it's probably a good
idea to do it. My PSA numbers are very very low,
so that's so thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Your public service announcement.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
No, my prostate specific antigen numbers, oh very low.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Do you take those? Do I take them? You take?
You know what your numbers are?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
When I last time I had my blood check. Yes, oh,
so you do get your blood checked. I have had
my blood checked. I don't ask yet. It's been four years,
but it's that's okay. Four years is acceptable. I was
in my forties, then, is that okay?
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I just think you know a little baseline checking from
here and there, baseline checking. You have a history of
heart disease in your family. I also have a history
of prostate cancer.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
My fan, Right, so do you know this song.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Hang On Sloopy, Sloopy, hang on devor do you want
to do it right now?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
We have a corrections and retractions.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Yeah, we do.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Well, he's not dead, No, no, he is, he is.
But you know I I quickly I grabbed the story
and I said, sloppy, Well, it looks like sloppy when
you were on Sloppy, but it's you're too young, too young,
thank you, thank you, because I the only reason I
don't know that song. I know the song really well
because my dad listened to oldies driving us into school,
(09:21):
So I know all the music of the fifties and
sixties down ass. Okay, my brother and I can do
a real fun karaoke.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Of those times.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Okay, well, thank you for allowing me to us on
the song, you know, save some face kind of You're welcome.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
We want you to be the best deb brother that
you can be. Oh, thank you. Somebody's got yes exactly. Hey,
do you remember this whole thing? Do you remember? You
remember Anthony wien Er? Did you send the tweet? Is
that a photograph of you? And why not call for
an investigator?
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Hi, answers, I did not, and that I hate that.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
I know what a system was hacked. I was pranktical.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
It's fairly common one.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
People make fun of my name all the time.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
When your name Wiener, you kind of get that, Is
that right?
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Right? I don't remember the timeline on this. Let me see.
Did you ask him if you could see his phone
to see when I look through the pictures on your phone?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Well, if you want to see a lot of pictures
of Jordan.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
And my son, Yeah, that's all we have. You're letting
me down.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
You are clearly not you. It's found. It has been
a long time since you had a four and a half.
Ye all that is like some aces stuff aces aces,
it's aces.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
And I love that he's calling me old when I
was like thirty four ish, not even thirty four years
old at that time. Like I get playing the old card,
like you don't know what it's like to have a
four and a half year old running around if you're
like sixty, But like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
This was and that that portion of the interview or
that portion of an interview came from the twenty sixteen
Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia. And again you mentioned he
was persona and on Grada. He was walking around the wells.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Fargo, sew salmon colored pants, like like J Crew salmon
tight colored pants, and he nobody was talking to him.
He didn't have a body person nothing. He was just
naked walking around there basically. And so I I time
has made me love that interview even more.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
This was him a little bit later.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
What's next for you? I mean, you've got to get
back into side.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Are going to miss the how do I possibly? I
was gonna say, you're gonna miss the attention KF I
am six forty with with the Gary and Channon show.
I'm totally this is it. I've peaked at great question
kind of. Now I do one of those trips where
I'd climb the mountains of seven continents or something, and
then and that.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Was it very similar, very similar to being on the show.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
But you know what he went on to do was
completely sandbag that election for Hillary Clinton with the help
of Debbie Wasserman. I mean, between the two big stories
that broke that week or the week after for him,
I mean that the fact that Bernie Sanders people were
all completely.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Shut out, shut out.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I remember that couple crying, the Bernie Sanders couple that
we met on the street and we were asking them
about what I mean, You guys are in Philly.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
You thought this might be it. There was a chance
that you guys would They.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Felt succeeded, and they were, they were Those were valid feelings.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Let me remind you that of the three of us
that were sitting at that table that day, you me,
Anthony Wiener, only one of us is a registered sex offender. Well,
you don't know everything, right, I can guarantee that one
of us is not a registered sex offender. I am
also not a r Okay, so the two of us
(12:57):
not registered sex offenders.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
He is running, guys, He's running for New York City Council.
He that was a fifteen year old He was texting
by the way. I was just gonna I keep in
my head, it's like an eighteen or nineteen year old
college co ed all the time that he's sexting, not
the case a fifteen thirteen year old.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Good lord, again, it happened that story came out weeks
after you asked him this.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Can I look through the pictures on your phone?
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Could you imagine ladies who trust your gut? Anthony Wiener
running for New York City Council six years after he
was released from his twenty one month stay behind bars
for sexting a fifteen year old.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
He was last.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Seen on the streets of New York with a handful
of flyers, with a woman holding a campaign sign, talking
to a mother with a small child, hugging an older woman.
Is it Is it interesting that all of these are
females in his circle at this point taking photos with
potential women?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Are women are more more for giving?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Although you know, I can't believe I asked him that question.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
The show was pretty new then too.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Had we already been screwed over by Richard Dreyfus was
the dow off the lily in terms of interviews and
being polite to people?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Maybe maybe I was maybe that was not about the milk,
you know, it was about Richard us.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, because that was pretty Uh, that was pretty prickly
of me to say that to him.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
This was also late in the week, if I remember correct,
Wednesday or Thursday.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Yeah, so we're gamy.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, you started wearing the same clothes day after day. Yeah,
I think that was like Wednesday and Thursday. You did
the same outfit and and you had Philly cheese steak
remsans on your shirt or as they say, blouse.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, you ironed every day.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Well not true, that was the second half. Remember they
lost our luggage, so we had the hotel had to
do the laundry for us, and they were earn my
shirts pressed, so I didn't do.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I thought it was very impressive that you had ironed
all your clothes every day.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
That's sweet considering once you step out of the uber
in one hundred degree heat and rain.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
It's broken. All of that is gone.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
His By the way, the person running against him is
a woman named Sarah Batchu. She proposed a bill nicknamed
the Wiener Act a couple of months ago that would
ban registered sex offenders from holding any public.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Office in the city.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Why is that not already a law.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
That was great and called it the Wiener Act.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, that's great. We should you know what we should
get them on? Nope, yes we should, we should. We shall,
I say we shall, we shall. Let's see the words.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Uh yeah, all right?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Young men calling nine to one one heart.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Attack or panic attack? Heart attack, panic attack.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Panic attacks are scary and it does feel like something
is really wrong. But these are I'm assuming these are
young people that are yep, yeah, okay, yep. We're talking
like a couple cups of coffee too much. Maybe not
an actual panic attack. Toxidrome, it has a name.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Sorry, I didn't want to look at you.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I went to the hospital with that too.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
But that was legit. Your heart was literally racist, Yeah
it was.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
But come on, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Cassie Ventura is going into labor. Oh really, it seems
like that she left the courtroom for the hospital.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Very dramatic.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Sources to TMZ, you say Cassie was rushed to the
New York hospital. She is in the labor and deliver
a unit. As we know, she was very pregnant, so
as you can as you know, if you've made a baby,
if you had a baby, sometimes stress We'll move along
the process, and how could this not be stressful. She
(17:09):
has showed up to court for four straight days for
intense testimony about their relationship.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
She has two other kids too, by her current husband.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I I don't know, that is I do not know.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Yes, yes, we'll do true crime Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
By the way, when we get to twelve thirty, there's
some updates on that Idaho quadruple murder case. Brian Cobroker,
of course accused of killing those CODs, and they are
closer to trial, but it has not been without some
speed bumps along the way.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
So we'll talk about that.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Men are about half as likely to be diagnosed with
an anxiety disorder compared to women. I'm going to repeat
that because that surprised me. Men about half as likely
to be diagnosed with an anxiety disorder compared to women.
And then this study out of Australia suggests that some
men feel pressure to be fearless to hide their emotions.
(18:05):
Others simply don't understand or have the language to describe
the symptoms of the anxieties that they feel. Your face
is their emotional language is weak, shall we say?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
So?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
This means that boys grow up believing that their male
role models don't get anxious. They don't see dad or
grandpa or their uncle get anxious. True, so they themselves,
if they feel anxious, think that something is wrong with them.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
I can see that.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
So then you start this biofeedback loop where you start
convincing yourself, googling prep did I feel Did I.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Just have a heart attack?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I might have just had a heart attack, And then
you start getting nervous about it. You develop these symptoms
in yourself and you call nine to one one. This
story actually looked at, or, I should say, the study
looked at the notes of paramedics who treated men between
the ages end boys between fifteen and twenty five years old,
seven hundred of them, and they said men are encouraged
(19:11):
to talk about anxiety. They can describe various challenges like
repetitive worries, feeling out of control, and in many cases,
intense physical symptoms high rate of heart beats, shortness of breath,
body pains, tremors, and headaches. One study said that a
lot of times anxious men will call the ambulance, specifically
(19:34):
younger men will call the ambulance. They said, many young
men turn to ambulances in crisis. Anxiety accounts for ten
percent of male ambulance attendances for mental health concerns.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Why do you think this is happening? Is it being
reported more or what have you? Because this is nothing
new that men don't talk about their emotions. I mean,
that's not a new generation type of a thing. Is
there something making men more anxious? Is it the loneliness
(20:10):
thing where men aren't talking to other men or really
anybody else? I think maybe they go hand in hand
if if men, because well the diamond does in the
stays that say, young men are lonelier now than they
have been for whatever reason. Maybe it's they're isolating more.
They and because they're isolating more, they're not talking to
(20:30):
people face to face. Talking to people face to face
can definitely ease anxiety. Friendships, things like that, just getting
things off your chest or what have You don't have
to sit down and have like major conversations about feelings
and emotions. Just talking to somebody about your day or whatever.
I think goes a long way in that regard. And
if you're isolating and you don't have that outlet. I
(20:52):
guess that's where more anxiety would come in. I mean,
young men aren't getting married. I think that you know,
our grandparents got married when they were what twenty two
twenty three. So even if they're not having these like
big conversations with about their emotions, they're still talking to
somebody in the house every day.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Should be Yeah, there are three things that they refer to.
Bodily symptoms, onset of bodily symptoms, that is very quick.
That's one of the things that it kind of is
that self fulfilling prophecy. You start to think, why are
my hands tingling? I must be having a problem. Then
that sort of convinces your body to follow through with
(21:28):
that problem.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
The mind is so powerful, especially at least I found
for personally, if I think I'm having anxiety or a
panic attack, my mind will take that ball and run
all the way to the goal line with it and
nothing to do.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
With trophy winning run on rade to the end zone.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
They also say that severe anxiety is very often triggered
or worsened by substance abuse. Yes that if you start
to feel yourself I need something to calm myself down.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
That actually can work against you in terms of it.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Will do it will bomb you down right now, but
you're gonna have to deal with that the next day.
The anxiety does not go away. In fact, it makes
it worse. I have a lot of girlfriends who just
stop drinking because the next day and somebody else's famous,
Oh on the Housewives, it's her name, Kyle Richards.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Same thing.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
She felt so much anxiety after she went out for
a night drinking that it was like, I don't want
to feel this way anymore. The next day for whatever reason,
whatever chemical reaction that had, it was manifesting an anxiety.
I have a couple of girlfriends same thing. They stopped
having those nights out and drinking to excess that anxiety
went away.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I think there's two other things, and they don't point out.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
It's like when you get older, the way your body
handles a hangover.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Oh yeah, it could just be different.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
It's different than the headache and the right sensitivity to brightness. Yeah,
it's probably a more mental right. There are two things
that are not in the study that I would say
probably have an impact on it. I don't know if
they would be able to quantify it because of the
way they did this study. But lack of physical movement,
like young men aren't exercising the ways that.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
They used to, also makes you feel good and totally
decreases any sort of anxiety.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Right, But and then a sort of an offshoot of that,
or that may be a symptom of the bigger problem,
which is we're not teaching people how to deal with anxiety.
We've not told them, Hey, there are things that you
can do to maintain a consistent outlet.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Moving around, like moving around.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, or if you do start to feel that way,
you know, it may not be prophylactic. You may not
be able to run five miles a day just to
kind of calm your brain down, but it may require.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
You to get up off the couch.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
If you start to feel that way, go do something physical,
Do something that's outside of your comfort zone.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Just a walk, even just a walk, walk the dog,
or if.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
You don't have a dog, walk yourself, put a leash
around your own neck.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Well, that gets into a little bit of stress. Weird suicide, Okay,
because there's been a couple of those.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
All right, up next, we told you about these mountain climbers.
They were trying to make it to Everest, to the
top and back and record time.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
They did it. They certainly did well. They have a
lot of money. And here's the other thing. That's what
the key is.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Actual mountain climbers are saying they should be banned from mountain.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
They should and everyone who's publicizing it, including us, although
we'll do a responsible job, it is part of the
problem because how many people will read or hear this
story and be like.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Well, if I could do it, I could do it.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
And then they go up there and they die and
they put rescuers at risk.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Who was that this guy?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, that's the guy that thinks he could go up
about without any training.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
He also has a cold apparently, I don't know. I
just met him. Gary and shann will continue.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
The Trump administration is asking federal agencies to cancel contracts
with Harvard worth about one hundred million dollars. This intensifies
the fight between the president and the oldest and wealthiest
university in America. The government already canceled more than two
point six billion in federal research grants for Harvard. Harvard
(25:25):
has pushed back on the President's demands for changes to.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Several of its policies.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
A very bad day in Gaza, which is there have
been many lately, but chaos erupted on the second day
of aid operations by a new US backed group there.
Palestinians completely overwhelmed the center that is distributing food today,
breaking through fences. Nearby Israeli troops had to fire warning
shots and then setting people run in the opposite way
(25:53):
and panic. The Israeli military later said the situation was
brought under control, but at least three Esthenians were injured
in what was supposed to be a food distribution.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
For British men, who we talked about a few weeks
ago when we heard about their plan, have shrunken the
timeline dramatically when it comes to climbing Mount Everest, traveling
from London to the summit and back in less than
a week.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
While this does make the news, it is a stupid, foolish,
fatal plan. In nine point nine out of ten cases
they skipped the acclamation time the adjustment period by inhaling
xenon gas, which the jury still out on that. By
the way, I said when we talked about their plan
(26:46):
and what they thought would be their secret weapon and
xenon gas that to your point before it's all mental.
A lot of the scientists said that it's not going
to have any effect, maybe detrimental if anything, but if
you think you have a secret weapon, that's going to
go a long way, well physically and mentally.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
So scientifically, they say they don't know exactly how this
is supposed to work that they have shown. Xenon has
been known for years to activate a molecule called the
hypoxia inducible factor. It's also turned on when people acclimate
to low oxygen. So what these people claim to have
done is found a way to switch on the adaptation
(27:27):
to the low oxygen levels, because obviously you're at such
an altitude twenty six thousand feet that there is very
little oxygen up there. If you're climbing the regular way,
you're taking supplemental oxygen with you but still suffering the
effects of low oxygen. What these guys did was ten
weeks before the expedition, they started sleeping in hypoxic tents
(27:50):
that lowers the oxygen levels in the air would acclimatize
them to the conditions. Instead of what many other people do,
which is travel to the mountain and gradually make your
way up, as you know, a week at this level
and then go up in another week at that level,
and so on.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
If you're a climber, or if you've even seen the
major motion picture Everest the way that I have so
very base, rudimentary knowledge of this, you have to have
respect for the mountain. You have to have respect for
the people who came before, who the people who know
the mountain. It's all about that, really, and this seems
to fly in the face of that. And it's not
(28:30):
just this group of guys. They plan to keep on
doing this. Lucas Furtenbach is the guy who organized the exhibition,
and he says that this group showed that it can work,
and that beginning next year he plans to offer two
week round trip excursions to Mount Everest using the Xenon gas,
(28:51):
cutting the typical time needed to scale the mountain by
several weeks.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
And you know what he's going to do.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
That he's going to make an s ton of money
right out of the gate, and people are gonna die.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I was just gonna say, even if he ends up
pulling bodies off of that mountain.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
He's gonna bee, He's.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Not gonna pull him off. You just leave him up there.
That's all you can do.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
So Furtenbach says that that summit took less than three days,
which was one of the fastest times for a group
that had not actually acclimatized on the mountain itself. The
record goes to, thankfully, a sherpa who did it in
just under eleven hours. What was that guy running eleven hours?
(29:31):
Lak Pa Gelu is one of the sherpas that supposedly
holds the record for that eleven hour climb. But the
rapid climb by this British group and the use of
the xenon has caught the eye of the Nepalese government.
They are potentially looking at regular I mean, they regulate
who goes in and out of Everest, and the Nepalese
(29:52):
government may do what they can to prevent tourists like
that from doing things like that.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I wonder also, and I don't know because I'm not
in any of the online forums with master climbers, but
if it's kind of like an asterisk climb, if you
use xenon gas, jury still out A lot of people
don't believe it does anything. It could be to your detriment.
It could help you out. But is that like a
Barry Bond's home run record situation where it's like, oh,
(30:19):
to use the xenon gap, then you didn't really climb Everest, right,
Like there's got to be an ever purest population that's
just like no, unless you do it the right way
and do it the way that you should do it
and acclimate and all the things, you're not really doing it.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Well. He I mean, you made a great point.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
This is one of the luxuries of having disposable income
like this, where you can spend ten weeks in a
hypoxic tent. Yeah, and then pay an anesthesiologist to infuse your.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Mask with xenon gas.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Another ask, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
He claims.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Again, Furtenbach claims that they still used shirpas, which is
a requirement based on the Nepalese government, that shorter times
on the mountain were safer because it reduces the chance
that the climbers would be exposed to other health threats,
things like avalanches or the hypothermia or the very common
fall on Everest. And he said if the World Anti
(31:10):
Doping Agency, which I guess has somehow has say over this.
If they do prohibit it, it wouldn't apply to mountaineering
because it's not a regulated competitive sport, but that they
may take may make xenon gas illegal when it comes
to other sporting competitions.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
So, well, look at that? Would you look at that?
It is noon o'clock? Well nearly. Can you believe we're
already at noon?
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah? Yeah, it feels like it's been a while.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
It does.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I'm sorry, I feel like the day is flying by.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Who's that?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
I'm sorry? That was you? You know, I give you a.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Week off almost I appreciate from me, thank you? And
this is and this is how you have So for.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
All of the R and R race next week, it's
a lot.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
So work on being a little bit more fake.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
I'll see what I can do.
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