June 2, 2025 • 28 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh no, it did it? Really? The bird flew away?
Huh So?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
About twenty minutes ago one of the eglets perched on
a branch and took off. I think I know where
Shannon is. I think she was below that tree begging
that bird to fly. They haven't said which of these
it was, Sonny or Gizmo. CBS News wrote What's next
(00:39):
for the Eglitz. Gizmo and Sonny were both determined to
be female. Hold on a second. Gizmo and Sonny were
both determined to be female, and Sonny's sex is still unknown,
but both will remain in the habitat for one to
three months after ledging. Friends of Big Bear Valleys say
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they will likely be in and out of the nest
during this time they will take off. Since they aren't banded,
we will have no way to know if they stay
together or for how long.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
It's listen.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I have been just as infatuated with these eagles as
everybody else has, but these comments crack me up. It's
not known if they will recognize each other, and the
organization notes that there is some evidence that bald eagles
can memorize, but they have not been there have not
been any specific studies to verify that information.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Eagles will reach maturity about five years old.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
That's when they get the white head and tail and
bright yellow beaks and eyes. But again, the breaking developing
story out of Big Bear is that one of the
eagles has literally flown the nest and we'll see, will
see if they ever make it back. NBA Finals begin
Thursday night, Pacers against Oklahoma City Thunder. NHL Stanley Cup
(02:04):
Finals begin on Wednesday night. That'll be the Florida Panthers
against the Edmonton Oilers. The Angels lost to the Guardians
last night, four to two. They will move on to
Boston tonight to take on the Red Sox. Yankees beat
the Dodgers seven to three yesterday, but the Mets are
in town tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
It's time for swamp watch. I'm a politician, which means
I'm a cheat and a liar. And when I'm not
kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipops.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Yeah, we got the real problem is that our leaders
are done.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
The other side never quits so what, I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So now you train the swat, I can imagine what
can be and be unburdened by.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
What has been. You know, Americans have always been gone
at President.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
They're not scrupid.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Have the people voted for you with not swamp watch,
they're all caunonnoyed.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Late in the segment, we'll get you more about what's
going on with the terrorist attack in Boulder, Colorado against
those pro Israeli hostage demonstrators that were out there trying
to bring attention to the hostages that are still being
held by Hamas. Because President Trump did make a comment
on truth Social about that, So we'll talk about that.
(03:15):
Because we're creating some more information, I wanted to just
backtrack just a quick moment and talk about what we
have seen the latest.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
When it comes to teriff wars.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Wall Street has been negative, at least the DAL has
been negative all morning.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Right now, it's down one hundred and seventy six points.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
There is some concern that the trade tensions between the
United States and China are going to ratchet up, and
part of that is because of what we have seen
in what is considered to be a violation of the truce.
China's Ministry of Commerce said that Washington seriously undermined the
agreement reached during talks in Geneva last month. Both countries
(03:54):
actually lowered tariffs on goods imported from each other, but
again the Chinese spokesperson said that the US actions violated
the consensus reached during a phone call between She Jinping
and President Trump. The comments come after Trump said that
China had totally violated its agreement with US. Okay, this
could be potentially all worked out in a mysterious phone
(04:17):
call that is said to be coming soon. Still up
in the air today in terms of official high level
talks between China and the United States, and there are
now mixed signals. Part of it is because we say
they violated that the tariff agreement, they say we violated
the tariff agreement. There is potentially, according to CNBC, a
(04:39):
phone call between President Trump and President she very possible.
This would be the first call since Trump took office. Again,
remember I said there was a call in January that
was before he was inaugurated for the second term. So
this would be the one that This would be the
first phone call between the two, some of them since
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he became president again. Again, China is lashing out, saying
that we were the ones that violated the deal. They
have dimmed the prospects of an immediate leadership call is
where they say it. There has also been a crackdown
on rare earth exports a couple of months ago, starting
to bite for US automakers in particular, we might have
to wea the United States might have to start limiting
(05:23):
auto production in just a matter of days. One of
the issues specifically is rare earth magnets, and with China
still enforcing their limits on rare earth magnet exports to
the United States, this could be one very specific but
very damaging part in the entire supply chain when it
(05:46):
comes to Chinese goods that are coming into the United
States and making cars and why that would be such
a stumbling block. Also in all of that, the price
of steel and aluminum spike today. Shares of foreign steelmakers
actually slumped after President Trump said he would double tariffs
on imports of aluminum and steal up to fifty percent.
(06:09):
Here we are in June, and this is going to
be a very important month for the Senate and for
the Supreme Court when it comes to Washington, DC. So
one of the things that just happened was Justice Brett
Kavanaugh signaled that the Court could soon decide the constitutional
constitutionality of banning AR fifteen's three justices did vote yes
(06:34):
to take up a specific case like this, you need
four actually to take up the case. Kavanaugh was not
one of those yes votes, but said that he probably
would be soon and that we should presumably address the
AR fifteen in the next term or two. The other things,
of course, are still going on. There are more opinion
cases that deal with birthright citizenship, that deal with age
(06:56):
verification for porn sites, transition care for kids who claim
to be transgender. All of that stuff is still yet
to come down for the Supreme Court this month. The
Senate is back in Washington today, and one of the
things that they're doing is talking about that big, beautiful bill,
how they are going to try to have this balance
(07:18):
that would appease each of the Republican factions within the
House and then each of the Republican factions within the Senate.
They want to have something done before a July fourth break.
Mike Johnson Speaker of the House had said that he
expects that timeline to be in play.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
We'll see how it goes.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Okay, So I mentioned that President Trump did make a
comment about the attack in Boulder, Colorado. We'll get into
that and the latest when it comes to the court
documents that are filed for the suspect in that case,
who will be in court in about an hour or so.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
That's up next.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
The big story now nationally has been this terrorist attack
that took place in Boulder, Colorado, where about a forty
five year old man attacked a group of demonstrators that
were calling for the release of Israeli hostages in Gaza. Now,
the President wrote today on truth Social quote, yesterday's horific
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attack and Bulder, Colorado will not be tolerated in the
United States of America. He came in through he came
in through Biden's ridiculous open door. Sorry, he came in
through Biden's ridiculous open border policy, which has hurt our
country so badly.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
He must go out.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Under Trump policy, acts of terrorism will be prosecuted to
the fullest extent of the law. This is yet another
example of why we must keep our border secure and
deport illegal anti American radicals from our homeland. My heart
goes out to the victims of this terrible tragedy and
the great people of Boulder, Colorado. The understanding is that
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the suspect in this case is due in court next hour.
According to documents that were just filed for the federal
criminal case against him, this guy had at least fourteen
unused molotov cocktails with them at the time that he
was arrested, apparently in his vehicle, and if you've seen
(09:18):
the video, he's holding a couple of them in his hands.
The video was taken after the official or I guess
after the initial is the word I'm looking for, after
the initial attack when he used what they said was
a impromptu or a sort of a homemade flamethrower of
some kind, and then these incendiary devices, these molotov cocktails.
(09:41):
This again the documents that were filed for the criminal
court case details. Police did have some more details. Police
also reported that he actually threw two molotov cocktails at
people who were at the gathering that he was yelling
free Palestine as he did so, causing burn injuries to
eight different people. The government says, in addition to those
(10:05):
fourteen unlit molotov cocktails, they found a backpack weed.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Sprayer for some reason, and.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
That there I guess it had a gasoline in it.
In his car, the court documents said that police found
red material consistent with the rags that were hanging out
of the remaining in Cyndi or device. It just looked
like shop rags to me, but it may have been
something more specific than that. There was a red gas
canister in the car and paperwork with the words Israel,
(10:38):
Palestine and US aid I talked earlier about the coloradois
Attorney General Phil Wiser saying that this is proof that
we all have to be on high alert.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Now. Eight against any of us must be treated against
eight against all of us. That's a moral stand that's
imperative for us to tape. That's what America needs to
stand for in this moment. We need to make sure
that we keep people safe, that we make clear there's
no place for hate, and that in America people can
peacefully demonstrate whatever they believe.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Now, the FBI special Agent in charge had said that
they don't believe that there were other suspects. He and
the chief of the Boulder Police Department talked about it.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Now the subject is in custody, but this will be
a thorough, complete investigation.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
From everything we.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Know in the witness briefings, in interviews that we've done
at this point, we do not believe that there is
an additional suspect at large.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Okay, there are details also in this court document again
the guys expected in court next hour. It says that
this guy was planning this attack for a year. The
group again that was protesting, that was demonstrating is probably
the better word, has been a regular fixture at this
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plaza in Boulder, Colorado since the October seventh attacks in
twenty twenty three, that on a regular basis, most weekly,
basically weather permitting that they're out there all the time.
But according to the court documents, the suspect was waiting
until after his daughter graduated, and that this guy arrived
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at the scene of the crime just before one o'clock
Bolder time and waited for the group there. After his arrest,
the suspect told law enforcement that Zionists were his target
and that he would conduct the attack again.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
So the suspect.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
According to couple of different reports, the White House has
backed this up. Department of Homeland Security has as well.
He was trying to get a guess asylum way back
in two thousand and five or six, and he was
denied at the time. He came in on a travel
visa that expired. The administration at the time a couple
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of years ago, in twenty twenty three, gave him a
work visa, but that the work visa expired in March
of this year, so he was existing in the country illegally.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
So up next there.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Last week we talked about PTSD treatments and using psychedelics
and the potential for microdosing of psychedelics to help in
that case, specifically veterans get through PTSD. There's another PTSD
therapy they're saying that seems too good to be true,
(13:36):
but apparently has been working. It's called RTM. I'll explain
what that is and why it has been working in
some cases when we come back.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Last week, we talked about the potential use of hallucinogens
and psycho therapeutic drug in order to treat people's post
traumatic stress disorder. And it's a particularly meaningful story because
of the number of suicides of American veterans every day.
(14:13):
I think the number is twenty two each day, and
that that specific population veterans are so much more at
risk for suicide than any other portion of the population.
Jeff Turner is a guy who served in Iraq, and
in April of two thousand and four, his mess hall
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and some areas around his base were hit with mortars,
and the mess hall was what got hit first. The
second bomb hit in a sand nearby, and he was
covered in smoke. He dove between a couple of park
mail vans and he began to register the screams from
the mess hall, and a soldier who had been chasing
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him down found him soaked in blood and said, you
got a problem, sir. The mortar had ripped through the
canvas or roof killed several of his fellow service members,
shrapnel in every direction. He was able to walk away
from the attack. He did still have some wounds deep
into his leg and on his arms, but the next
(15:16):
day he was back at work and he said he
found immediately things were not right. His heart was pounding,
even though he was doing relatively mundane tasks. Loud noises
would freak him out and he would jump into bunkers,
and the little sleep that he did get was plagued
with nightmares. I mean, these are all very, very common
(15:38):
when it comes to post traumatic stress disorder, because your
body is reliving or trying to process whatever you went
through in the first place, there's a Without treatment, PTSD
sufferers will notice the distortions in.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Their behavior, in their mood.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
They will constant feel like they're in danger, and that
makes them avoidant, that makes them draw into isolation, and
then you've got shame and guilt and anger and it
all festers and it causes depression and like I said,
that dramatically high risk of suicide that comes along with it.
So treating it, Treating PTSD revolves around the question of
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how do you get a person to leave the past
in the past. And yes, there are different therapeutic avenues
for that. In the case that we were talking about
last week, there are medical avenues for that that they
have been working on. The problem with prolonged exposure, though,
is that it can be hard to get through and
(16:47):
if you want to hit this thing head on. You
just want to sit on a therapist couch and talk
about over and over and over and over again the
most traumatic moments of your life that can be painful.
There is a new unconventional route called reconsolidation of traumatic
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memories reconsolidation of traumatic memories RTM. There is a belief that,
or a theory is a better word, that treating PTSD
could be painless. Right, you wouldn't have to go through
and relive those moments in the same way. When it
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came to Jeff Turner and him doing this reconsolidation of
traumatic memories, he said it was wildly successful, to the
point where he couldn't believe that it was working. His words,
it seemed too good to be true.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
So what our TM.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Does is it uses movies as a metaphor to replay
something in your memory. It's big, long, eighty nine step
protocol and it starts with very simple baby steps. Not
to infec analyze this thing, but just to make it easy.
You imagine yourself seated in a movie theater that you
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associate with happy memories, think about your favorite movie. You
then smell the popcorn, you feel the seats. You can
smell the stickiness, smell the stickiness, you can smell the
floors whatever, I don't know. And then you Begum the projectionist,
and you hit play and think of your event in
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black and white, and you watch yourself seated watching the screen.
So you're not watching the movie yourself. You're watching yourself
watch the movie. And again, some of this is therapeutic
mumbo jumbo, but if you are willing to put yourself
through the exercise, Jeff Turner and other people who have
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done this reconsolidation of traumatic memories say it absolutely works.
If you ever pull yourself out of it, your body shifts,
your voice changes, your teeth clench, something like that. The
therapist will bring you back. Hey, calm down, we're going
to start over. We're going to get through this. You're
going to watch yourself watch the movie. And then once
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you are able to do that for about sixty seconds,
you change the perspective in some way. You change the
camera angle, maybe you move the screen back twenty feet.
One of the suggestions is you replace the characters in
this movie with stick figures to kind of depersonalize it
until you can repeatedly watch it from start to start
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to end without reacting to it. The point of this
reconsolidation of traumatic memories is to see that thing over
and over and over again, tweaking it a little bit
more each time, so that it gets farther and farther
away from the actual event, that when it goes back
into your.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Memory, it's different. It's not the same thing.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
And if you can constantly watch the clip without reacting,
that's when the second phase of that reconsolidation of traumatic
memories begins. You can, in vivid color and detail, now
walk up to the movie screen and step inside the
final frame of the film and the whole thing they
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tell you to rewind it and go back. It's a weird,
fascinating and hopefully successful approach to PTSD that hadn't been
worked before. Now others who know about this kind of
therapy have said, well, there's not a lot of medical
psychological evidence to show that it works on a large scale,
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but if it works for a handful of people, I mean,
for the same reason that we would say that you
would want tests done on psychotherapeutic drugs. You want to
be able to help as many people as you can,
not everybody's going to be helped in the same way.
So maybe this is one of those paths that you
can take, specifically for Jeff Turner and for other people
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who have suffered PTSD whether they're veterans or in other
forms of life that they need some help to get through.
So I thought that was pretty interesting, coming back youth
sports to the tune of millions of dollars. Could a
fourteen year old be a millionaire because of name, image,
and likeness. We'll tell you, but the story about Caden Coleman.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Gary, Jeff Fromer right here, what you're describing with the
PTSD treatment is something in lock worse we call a
cognitive interview technique. We use it extensively with sexual assault
victims or people who have experienced a very violent or
traumatic event. It works great. I actually teach this th
about the state an instructor with behavioral analysis training incorporated,
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and I'm glad to see that this technique is being
used to other places to help other people. Thanks for
this highlighting this topic.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Thanks yeah, no, thanks great insight from you. Again.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
We were talking about reconsolidation of traumatic memories a new well,
maybe not necessarily that new, but being used in some
new arenas. Britney Coleman has a little boy named Caden Coleman.
And by little I mean he's fourteen. He's not little physically,
he's five eight, one hundred and sixty five pounds, but
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I mean little boy mentally, smart kid, honor student. He
maintains a three point five grade point average at his school,
his junior high school in the DC area. Next year
he's going to be going on to Damatha Catholic High School.
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He is going on an academic scholarship, but Damatha Catholic
High School happens to be a national powerhouse in football.
When Caden was just ten years old, youth football coaches
started pressing envelopes with thousands of dollars into Mom's hands.
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They wanted Caden to play for their club teams in
Maryland or New Jersey or elsewhere on the Atlantic seaboard.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
She always refused.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Mom, the smart one, always said no because she didn't
want to tarnish her son. Now that kid has become
one of the best eighth grade football players in the country.
Which is weird that we have a scale by which
to measure eighth grade football players, but he's one of
the best, and mom says that by the end of
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his freshman year that starts in September, by the end
of his freshman year, she wants to have him at
about a million dollars. I uh okay, we talked a
little bit about this. You know, young, the youngest of
young athletes being invited into this world of name, image
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and likeness deal. There's a kid in Los Angeles nine
years old who got signed to one of these deals.
There are at least forty one states and DC that
have policies through their athletic associations that do allow NIL
agreements for high school students, and many of those also
allow deals for students in middle school.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Rebok Gatorade leaf trading cards.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
They've offered lucrative deals to a handful of high school
football and basketball stars. Local companies think real estate companies, clothing, restaurants, etc.
And it can be everything from hey, the star wide
receiver on the South Fresno High school football team gets
free pizza every weekend or something like that, which without
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these name, image and likeness deals would have been illegal.
Now he can do that. It can go from that
to seven figures from some of these major brands. So
Britney Coleman again, Caden's mom is trying to steer in
this new world and make sure that her son doesn't
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get taken advantage of. So she actually finds an ally
in Mike Shariff, who is the coach at the middle
school that this kid goes to. And he knew that
this whole name, image and likeness gold rush was coming
and he was ready for it.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
He doesn't like it.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
He's not a fan of the system because he thinks
to himself rightfully, so how healthy is it for you
to pay a ten year old to play a game?
And how damage is damaging would it be to the
rest of the team if one of the kids on
your forty man roster is getting paid while the others aren't.
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But he does know you can't ignore the marketplace. So
what he has done he has taught each one of
the players how to open a savings account. He brought
in a bank representative to talk parent, to talk to
the parents, I should say, he makes sure that the
kids pass of financial competency tests, that they take lessons
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in handling social media, in how to handle an interview
with the news media, and if you get one of
those nil deals on his team, you also have to
have a higher grade point average. If you are to
get a name, image and likeness a deal on his team,
you have to have a three point five grade point average.
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Caden Coleman has been famous in football circle since he
was nine. He's been on club teams the whole time. Fast,
strong running back that completely breaks records left and right
for eighth graders, I suppose. But again, coach Sharif coach
Mike has helped Caden's mom vet these would be sponsors,
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including a clothing brand, a local clothing brand there and
just outside of Baltimore, second and six. They've had deals
with high school players before, but Cayden was the first
middle school player that they came to. And he's already
got nine thousand, almost ten thousand Instagram followers, but his
highlights reached tens of thousands across social media. And when
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he's wearing the second and six athletic gear. While he's
doing these videos, he gets more free clothing, he gets
a commission of sales on certain items, and again they
mom says she wants to be able to provide for
her son a safe path into adulthood, which in this
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case would be paid for with a lot of money.
And again, she's not entirely down with this whole thing,
but knows that she has a goal for him. The
goal is for him to reach a million dollars is
freshman year in high school. Maybe that's what's wrong with
youth sports.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
We allow them that. We'll talk about youth sports.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Coming up in a bit, we'll do trending stories, more
on our youth sports problems. Motivational Monday coming up at
twelve thirty, and then that crazy, very strange niche DJ
job in mixtape Monday is coming up.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh no, it did it? Really? The bird flew away?
Huh So?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
About twenty minutes ago one of the eglets perched on
a branch and took off. I think I know where
Shannon is. I think she was below that tree begging
that bird to fly. They haven't said which of these
it was, Sonny or Gizmo. CBS News wrote What's next
(00:39):
for the Eglitz. Gizmo and Sonny were both determined to
be female. Hold on a second. Gizmo and Sonny were
both determined to be female, and Sonny's sex is still unknown,
but both will remain in the habitat for one to
three months after ledging. Friends of Big Bear Valleys say
(01:02):
they will likely be in and out of the nest
during this time they will take off. Since they aren't banded,
we will have no way to know if they stay
together or for how long.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
It's listen.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I have been just as infatuated with these eagles as
everybody else has, but these comments crack me up. It's
not known if they will recognize each other, and the
organization notes that there is some evidence that bald eagles
can memorize, but they have not been there have not
been any specific studies to verify that information.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Eagles will reach maturity about five years old.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
That's when they get the white head and tail and
bright yellow beaks and eyes. But again, the breaking developing
story out of Big Bear is that one of the
eagles has literally flown the nest and we'll see, will
see if they ever make it back. NBA Finals begin
Thursday night, Pacers against Oklahoma City Thunder. NHL Stanley Cup
(02:04):
Finals begin on Wednesday night. That'll be the Florida Panthers
against the Edmonton Oilers. The Angels lost to the Guardians
last night, four to two. They will move on to
Boston tonight to take on the Red Sox. Yankees beat
the Dodgers seven to three yesterday, but the Mets are
in town tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
It's time for swamp watch. I'm a politician, which means
I'm a cheat and a liar. And when I'm not
kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipops.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Yeah, we got the real problem is that our leaders
are done.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
The other side never quits so what, I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So now you train the swat, I can imagine what
can be and be unburdened by.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
What has been. You know, Americans have always been gone
at President.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
They're not scrupid.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Have the people voted for you with not swamp watch,
they're all caunonnoyed.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Late in the segment, we'll get you more about what's
going on with the terrorist attack in Boulder, Colorado against
those pro Israeli hostage demonstrators that were out there trying
to bring attention to the hostages that are still being
held by Hamas. Because President Trump did make a comment
on truth Social about that, So we'll talk about that.
(03:15):
Because we're creating some more information, I wanted to just
backtrack just a quick moment and talk about what we
have seen the latest.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
When it comes to teriff wars.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Wall Street has been negative, at least the DAL has
been negative all morning.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Right now, it's down one hundred and seventy six points.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
There is some concern that the trade tensions between the
United States and China are going to ratchet up, and
part of that is because of what we have seen
in what is considered to be a violation of the truce.
China's Ministry of Commerce said that Washington seriously undermined the
agreement reached during talks in Geneva last month. Both countries
(03:54):
actually lowered tariffs on goods imported from each other, but
again the Chinese spokesperson said that the US actions violated
the consensus reached during a phone call between She Jinping
and President Trump. The comments come after Trump said that
China had totally violated its agreement with US. Okay, this
could be potentially all worked out in a mysterious phone
(04:17):
call that is said to be coming soon. Still up
in the air today in terms of official high level
talks between China and the United States, and there are
now mixed signals. Part of it is because we say
they violated that the tariff agreement, they say we violated
the tariff agreement. There is potentially, according to CNBC, a
(04:39):
phone call between President Trump and President she very possible.
This would be the first call since Trump took office. Again,
remember I said there was a call in January that
was before he was inaugurated for the second term. So
this would be the one that This would be the
first phone call between the two, some of them since
(05:00):
he became president again. Again, China is lashing out, saying
that we were the ones that violated the deal. They
have dimmed the prospects of an immediate leadership call is
where they say it. There has also been a crackdown
on rare earth exports a couple of months ago, starting
to bite for US automakers in particular, we might have
to wea the United States might have to start limiting
(05:23):
auto production in just a matter of days. One of
the issues specifically is rare earth magnets, and with China
still enforcing their limits on rare earth magnet exports to
the United States, this could be one very specific but
very damaging part in the entire supply chain when it
(05:46):
comes to Chinese goods that are coming into the United
States and making cars and why that would be such
a stumbling block. Also in all of that, the price
of steel and aluminum spike today. Shares of foreign steelmakers
actually slumped after President Trump said he would double tariffs
on imports of aluminum and steal up to fifty percent.
(06:09):
Here we are in June, and this is going to
be a very important month for the Senate and for
the Supreme Court when it comes to Washington, DC. So
one of the things that just happened was Justice Brett
Kavanaugh signaled that the Court could soon decide the constitutional
constitutionality of banning AR fifteen's three justices did vote yes
(06:34):
to take up a specific case like this, you need
four actually to take up the case. Kavanaugh was not
one of those yes votes, but said that he probably
would be soon and that we should presumably address the
AR fifteen in the next term or two. The other things,
of course, are still going on. There are more opinion
cases that deal with birthright citizenship, that deal with age
(06:56):
verification for porn sites, transition care for kids who claim
to be transgender. All of that stuff is still yet
to come down for the Supreme Court this month. The
Senate is back in Washington today, and one of the
things that they're doing is talking about that big, beautiful bill,
how they are going to try to have this balance
(07:18):
that would appease each of the Republican factions within the
House and then each of the Republican factions within the Senate.
They want to have something done before a July fourth break.
Mike Johnson Speaker of the House had said that he
expects that timeline to be in play.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
We'll see how it goes.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Okay, So I mentioned that President Trump did make a
comment about the attack in Boulder, Colorado. We'll get into
that and the latest when it comes to the court
documents that are filed for the suspect in that case,
who will be in court in about an hour or so.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
That's up next.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
The big story now nationally has been this terrorist attack
that took place in Boulder, Colorado, where about a forty
five year old man attacked a group of demonstrators that
were calling for the release of Israeli hostages in Gaza. Now,
the President wrote today on truth Social quote, yesterday's horific
(08:21):
attack and Bulder, Colorado will not be tolerated in the
United States of America. He came in through he came
in through Biden's ridiculous open door. Sorry, he came in
through Biden's ridiculous open border policy, which has hurt our
country so badly.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
He must go out.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Under Trump policy, acts of terrorism will be prosecuted to
the fullest extent of the law. This is yet another
example of why we must keep our border secure and
deport illegal anti American radicals from our homeland. My heart
goes out to the victims of this terrible tragedy and
the great people of Boulder, Colorado. The understanding is that
(08:58):
the suspect in this case is due in court next hour.
According to documents that were just filed for the federal
criminal case against him, this guy had at least fourteen
unused molotov cocktails with them at the time that he
was arrested, apparently in his vehicle, and if you've seen
(09:18):
the video, he's holding a couple of them in his hands.
The video was taken after the official or I guess
after the initial is the word I'm looking for, after
the initial attack when he used what they said was
a impromptu or a sort of a homemade flamethrower of
some kind, and then these incendiary devices, these molotov cocktails.
(09:41):
This again the documents that were filed for the criminal
court case details. Police did have some more details. Police
also reported that he actually threw two molotov cocktails at
people who were at the gathering that he was yelling
free Palestine as he did so, causing burn injuries to
eight different people. The government says, in addition to those
(10:05):
fourteen unlit molotov cocktails, they found a backpack weed.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Sprayer for some reason, and.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
That there I guess it had a gasoline in it.
In his car, the court documents said that police found
red material consistent with the rags that were hanging out
of the remaining in Cyndi or device. It just looked
like shop rags to me, but it may have been
something more specific than that. There was a red gas
canister in the car and paperwork with the words Israel,
(10:38):
Palestine and US aid I talked earlier about the coloradois
Attorney General Phil Wiser saying that this is proof that
we all have to be on high alert.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Now. Eight against any of us must be treated against
eight against all of us. That's a moral stand that's
imperative for us to tape. That's what America needs to
stand for in this moment. We need to make sure
that we keep people safe, that we make clear there's
no place for hate, and that in America people can
peacefully demonstrate whatever they believe.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Now, the FBI special Agent in charge had said that
they don't believe that there were other suspects. He and
the chief of the Boulder Police Department talked about it.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Now the subject is in custody, but this will be
a thorough, complete investigation.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
From everything we.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Know in the witness briefings, in interviews that we've done
at this point, we do not believe that there is
an additional suspect at large.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Okay, there are details also in this court document again
the guys expected in court next hour. It says that
this guy was planning this attack for a year. The
group again that was protesting, that was demonstrating is probably
the better word, has been a regular fixture at this
(11:53):
plaza in Boulder, Colorado since the October seventh attacks in
twenty twenty three, that on a regular basis, most weekly,
basically weather permitting that they're out there all the time.
But according to the court documents, the suspect was waiting
until after his daughter graduated, and that this guy arrived
(12:15):
at the scene of the crime just before one o'clock
Bolder time and waited for the group there. After his arrest,
the suspect told law enforcement that Zionists were his target
and that he would conduct the attack again.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
So the suspect.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
According to couple of different reports, the White House has
backed this up. Department of Homeland Security has as well.
He was trying to get a guess asylum way back
in two thousand and five or six, and he was
denied at the time. He came in on a travel
visa that expired. The administration at the time a couple
(13:00):
of years ago, in twenty twenty three, gave him a
work visa, but that the work visa expired in March
of this year, so he was existing in the country illegally.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
So up next there.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Last week we talked about PTSD treatments and using psychedelics
and the potential for microdosing of psychedelics to help in
that case, specifically veterans get through PTSD. There's another PTSD
therapy they're saying that seems too good to be true,
(13:36):
but apparently has been working. It's called RTM. I'll explain
what that is and why it has been working in
some cases when we come back.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Last week, we talked about the potential use of hallucinogens
and psycho therapeutic drug in order to treat people's post
traumatic stress disorder. And it's a particularly meaningful story because
of the number of suicides of American veterans every day.
(14:13):
I think the number is twenty two each day, and
that that specific population veterans are so much more at
risk for suicide than any other portion of the population.
Jeff Turner is a guy who served in Iraq, and
in April of two thousand and four, his mess hall
(14:36):
and some areas around his base were hit with mortars,
and the mess hall was what got hit first. The
second bomb hit in a sand nearby, and he was
covered in smoke. He dove between a couple of park
mail vans and he began to register the screams from
the mess hall, and a soldier who had been chasing
(14:56):
him down found him soaked in blood and said, you
got a problem, sir. The mortar had ripped through the
canvas or roof killed several of his fellow service members,
shrapnel in every direction. He was able to walk away
from the attack. He did still have some wounds deep
into his leg and on his arms, but the next
(15:16):
day he was back at work and he said he
found immediately things were not right. His heart was pounding,
even though he was doing relatively mundane tasks. Loud noises
would freak him out and he would jump into bunkers,
and the little sleep that he did get was plagued
with nightmares. I mean, these are all very, very common
(15:38):
when it comes to post traumatic stress disorder, because your
body is reliving or trying to process whatever you went
through in the first place, there's a Without treatment, PTSD
sufferers will notice the distortions in.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Their behavior, in their mood.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
They will constant feel like they're in danger, and that
makes them avoidant, that makes them draw into isolation, and
then you've got shame and guilt and anger and it
all festers and it causes depression and like I said,
that dramatically high risk of suicide that comes along with it.
So treating it, Treating PTSD revolves around the question of
(16:24):
how do you get a person to leave the past
in the past. And yes, there are different therapeutic avenues
for that. In the case that we were talking about
last week, there are medical avenues for that that they
have been working on. The problem with prolonged exposure, though,
is that it can be hard to get through and
(16:47):
if you want to hit this thing head on. You
just want to sit on a therapist couch and talk
about over and over and over and over again the
most traumatic moments of your life that can be painful.
There is a new unconventional route called reconsolidation of traumatic
(17:10):
memories reconsolidation of traumatic memories RTM. There is a belief that,
or a theory is a better word, that treating PTSD
could be painless. Right, you wouldn't have to go through
and relive those moments in the same way. When it
(17:30):
came to Jeff Turner and him doing this reconsolidation of
traumatic memories, he said it was wildly successful, to the
point where he couldn't believe that it was working. His words,
it seemed too good to be true.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
So what our TM.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Does is it uses movies as a metaphor to replay
something in your memory. It's big, long, eighty nine step
protocol and it starts with very simple baby steps. Not
to infec analyze this thing, but just to make it easy.
You imagine yourself seated in a movie theater that you
(18:06):
associate with happy memories, think about your favorite movie. You
then smell the popcorn, you feel the seats. You can
smell the stickiness, smell the stickiness, you can smell the
floors whatever, I don't know. And then you Begum the projectionist,
and you hit play and think of your event in
(18:27):
black and white, and you watch yourself seated watching the screen.
So you're not watching the movie yourself. You're watching yourself
watch the movie. And again, some of this is therapeutic
mumbo jumbo, but if you are willing to put yourself
through the exercise, Jeff Turner and other people who have
(18:50):
done this reconsolidation of traumatic memories say it absolutely works.
If you ever pull yourself out of it, your body shifts,
your voice changes, your teeth clench, something like that. The
therapist will bring you back. Hey, calm down, we're going
to start over. We're going to get through this. You're
going to watch yourself watch the movie. And then once
(19:12):
you are able to do that for about sixty seconds,
you change the perspective in some way. You change the
camera angle, maybe you move the screen back twenty feet.
One of the suggestions is you replace the characters in
this movie with stick figures to kind of depersonalize it
until you can repeatedly watch it from start to start
(19:33):
to end without reacting to it. The point of this
reconsolidation of traumatic memories is to see that thing over
and over and over again, tweaking it a little bit
more each time, so that it gets farther and farther
away from the actual event, that when it goes back
into your.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Memory, it's different. It's not the same thing.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
And if you can constantly watch the clip without reacting,
that's when the second phase of that reconsolidation of traumatic
memories begins. You can, in vivid color and detail, now
walk up to the movie screen and step inside the
final frame of the film and the whole thing they
(20:18):
tell you to rewind it and go back. It's a weird,
fascinating and hopefully successful approach to PTSD that hadn't been
worked before. Now others who know about this kind of
therapy have said, well, there's not a lot of medical
psychological evidence to show that it works on a large scale,
(20:43):
but if it works for a handful of people, I mean,
for the same reason that we would say that you
would want tests done on psychotherapeutic drugs. You want to
be able to help as many people as you can,
not everybody's going to be helped in the same way.
So maybe this is one of those paths that you
can take, specifically for Jeff Turner and for other people
(21:04):
who have suffered PTSD whether they're veterans or in other
forms of life that they need some help to get through.
So I thought that was pretty interesting, coming back youth
sports to the tune of millions of dollars. Could a
fourteen year old be a millionaire because of name, image,
and likeness. We'll tell you, but the story about Caden Coleman.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Gary, Jeff Fromer right here, what you're describing with the
PTSD treatment is something in lock worse we call a
cognitive interview technique. We use it extensively with sexual assault
victims or people who have experienced a very violent or
traumatic event. It works great. I actually teach this th
about the state an instructor with behavioral analysis training incorporated,
(21:53):
and I'm glad to see that this technique is being
used to other places to help other people. Thanks for
this highlighting this topic.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Thanks yeah, no, thanks great insight from you. Again.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
We were talking about reconsolidation of traumatic memories a new well,
maybe not necessarily that new, but being used in some
new arenas. Britney Coleman has a little boy named Caden Coleman.
And by little I mean he's fourteen. He's not little physically,
he's five eight, one hundred and sixty five pounds, but
(22:23):
I mean little boy mentally, smart kid, honor student. He
maintains a three point five grade point average at his school,
his junior high school in the DC area. Next year
he's going to be going on to Damatha Catholic High School.
(22:43):
He is going on an academic scholarship, but Damatha Catholic
High School happens to be a national powerhouse in football.
When Caden was just ten years old, youth football coaches
started pressing envelopes with thousands of dollars into Mom's hands.
(23:04):
They wanted Caden to play for their club teams in
Maryland or New Jersey or elsewhere on the Atlantic seaboard.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
She always refused.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Mom, the smart one, always said no because she didn't
want to tarnish her son. Now that kid has become
one of the best eighth grade football players in the country.
Which is weird that we have a scale by which
to measure eighth grade football players, but he's one of
the best, and mom says that by the end of
(23:36):
his freshman year that starts in September, by the end
of his freshman year, she wants to have him at
about a million dollars. I uh okay, we talked a
little bit about this. You know, young, the youngest of
young athletes being invited into this world of name, image
(23:59):
and likeness deal. There's a kid in Los Angeles nine
years old who got signed to one of these deals.
There are at least forty one states and DC that
have policies through their athletic associations that do allow NIL
agreements for high school students, and many of those also
allow deals for students in middle school.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Rebok Gatorade leaf trading cards.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
They've offered lucrative deals to a handful of high school
football and basketball stars. Local companies think real estate companies, clothing, restaurants, etc.
And it can be everything from hey, the star wide
receiver on the South Fresno High school football team gets
free pizza every weekend or something like that, which without
(24:47):
these name, image and likeness deals would have been illegal.
Now he can do that. It can go from that
to seven figures from some of these major brands. So
Britney Coleman again, Caden's mom is trying to steer in
this new world and make sure that her son doesn't
(25:07):
get taken advantage of. So she actually finds an ally
in Mike Shariff, who is the coach at the middle
school that this kid goes to. And he knew that
this whole name, image and likeness gold rush was coming
and he was ready for it.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
He doesn't like it.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
He's not a fan of the system because he thinks
to himself rightfully, so how healthy is it for you
to pay a ten year old to play a game?
And how damage is damaging would it be to the
rest of the team if one of the kids on
your forty man roster is getting paid while the others aren't.
(25:45):
But he does know you can't ignore the marketplace. So
what he has done he has taught each one of
the players how to open a savings account. He brought
in a bank representative to talk parent, to talk to
the parents, I should say, he makes sure that the
kids pass of financial competency tests, that they take lessons
(26:09):
in handling social media, in how to handle an interview
with the news media, and if you get one of
those nil deals on his team, you also have to
have a higher grade point average. If you are to
get a name, image and likeness a deal on his team,
you have to have a three point five grade point average.
(26:32):
Caden Coleman has been famous in football circle since he
was nine. He's been on club teams the whole time. Fast,
strong running back that completely breaks records left and right
for eighth graders, I suppose. But again, coach Sharif coach
Mike has helped Caden's mom vet these would be sponsors,
(26:54):
including a clothing brand, a local clothing brand there and
just outside of Baltimore, second and six. They've had deals
with high school players before, but Cayden was the first
middle school player that they came to. And he's already
got nine thousand, almost ten thousand Instagram followers, but his
highlights reached tens of thousands across social media. And when
(27:17):
he's wearing the second and six athletic gear. While he's
doing these videos, he gets more free clothing, he gets
a commission of sales on certain items, and again they
mom says she wants to be able to provide for
her son a safe path into adulthood, which in this
(27:41):
case would be paid for with a lot of money.
And again, she's not entirely down with this whole thing,
but knows that she has a goal for him. The
goal is for him to reach a million dollars is
freshman year in high school. Maybe that's what's wrong with
youth sports.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
We allow them that. We'll talk about youth sports.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Coming up in a bit, we'll do trending stories, more
on our youth sports problems. Motivational Monday coming up at
twelve thirty, and then that crazy, very strange niche DJ
job in mixtape Monday is coming up.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
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