June 6, 2025 • 33 mins
#SWAMPWATCH – The Plastic Surgery Procedure Booming Among Washington Men. What America’s Pizza Economy Is Telling Us About the Real One. Divorce spikes early spring, late summer. Burger King employee jumped in to help co-workers after high school graduation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Coming up in the next hour.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
All those stories about Amazon delivery drivers behaving badly, poopin
and the bushes, things like that, well that may be
all in the past because Amazon has employed new delivery workers.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
And they don't have those functions.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah, nothing to see here, No humans, no, no.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
The future is looking very very bleak, and we will
be at the mercy of the robot overlords.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I can't wait.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Baseball Mariners are in town to take on the Angels
later tonight. The Dodgers beat them at six to five,
they'll move on to Saint Louis. Five point fifteen, I
believe is the first pitch. Are you a fisher person, fisherman, fisher,
fisher woman?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
You fish?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I like to fly fish.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I haven't done so in a number of years, but
it's very peaceful.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Fishing boats This week wend fanning out up and down
the coast for the first time in a couple of
years for Chinook Salmon. Coastal Salmon Fishing Band In twenty
three and twenty four tried to help the chinook salmon
numbers rebound.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I got my hands on some Copper River salmon, some
fresh Copper River salmon yesterday at sprouts.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Made that last night so good.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I had salmon last night as well.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
The Copper River. You got to get it.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
It's seasonal, obviously, and the season just began last week,
I think, so you got to get out there and
get it because it flies off the shelves.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
The First Department of Fishing Wildlife limiting ocean fishing for
chinook under quotas and a couple of windows in the
summer in the fall. First one opens tomorrow and they're
allowing for up to seven thousand salmon to be caught statewide.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
So if you're a fisher person, that's an exciting time.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Tons and tons and more tons to get to out
of Washington.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I'm a politician. I'm a politician, which means I'm a
cheat and a liar. And when I'm not kissing baby,
I'm stealing that lollipox.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Yeah, we got.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
The real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
The other side never quit.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I'm not going anywhere. So that how you train the squat,
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been. You know, Murvans have always been going,
They're not stupid.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I have the people voting for you were not swamp watch.
They're all counter knowing.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
So yesterday I was on Twitter more than I've been
on Twitter four years, at least non football news related Twitter,
I guess you could say, because I kept waiting for
this war to escalate throughout the day, and Elon Musk
and Donald Trump took this break up quite public, quite quickly,
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and I feel like we've kind of plateaued today.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Not a lot coming out.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I think there's a lot of hope, whether it's within
the White House or Republicans in general, there's a lot
of hope that this thing flashed and is over right.
I don't think it is, but but that may be
the hope. President Trump did say that he's disappointed in
this discussion, this ongoing social media salvos that have been
(03:17):
going back and forth.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
And I had a great relationship past tense.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
I don't know what will anymore, but I'm very disappointed
in Elon.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I've helped elon a lot, and I'll be honest, I
think he misses the place. Dana Bash from CNN spoke
with President Trump on the phone today.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Well, he said that he's quote well, here's exactly what
he said. Quote, I'm not even thinking about Elon. He's
got a problem. The poor guy's got a problem. He
said he won't be speaking to him for a while,
but he said he wishes Elon Musk well.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Again, I don't think it's over, but I do not
know how this thing resolves itself.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
One if the winners may be the Moon.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
This is one of the more recent narratives to come
out of this fight. The Moon mission may have new life.
Of course, Elon Musk, SpaceX founder, well known Mars enthusiast,
has argued against returning astronauts to the Moon. But with
his forced exit of his ham picked nominee for NASA
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and his fight between himself and the President, a lot
of moonbackers in Congress and in the industry see an
opening and they're seizing it. Clayton Swoop is a former
Congressional advisor on space and he says Elon was the
main reason for the fork in the road for NASA's
human exploration plans, and with his exodus, there's a good
(04:46):
chance NASA will refocus back to the Moon with the.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Plan of Moon than Mars.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Major A number of major space companies are launching ad
campaigns to going big on the Moon. This is the
first real big pushback to Elon Musk. As we've talked about,
or we talked about earlier. SpaceX has had a series
of failures recently. So his stepback when it came to
naming the new chief of NASA when Trump' said not
(05:15):
so fast, I don't want your guy, was a huge blow,
maybe a death blow to Elon when it comes to
him being the charter of the territory of where we're headed.
If you've got another a number of other companies with
political capital saying no, we're going to the Moon and
maybe the Moon and then Mars.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
When we come back.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
The plastic surgery procedure that's booming in DC right now,
and what the pizza economy tells us about the actual economy.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I drank it.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, that's going to cause some issues, is it? Whatever
that was? It said? It literally said the word kale
on the side of it.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
It said, don't kale my vibe, which is what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
It looked like a choco frappuccino of some kind.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, I don't know what was in it.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
It had a lot of help know what was in it.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
No, No, you just went ahead and good morning dawn.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Here in Lake Forest a cat hotel.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Aren't cats kind of so sufficient? You know?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Just get some food and water out. Yeah, they'll just
roam around take care of themselves. Yeah, No, sounds fancy.
Now you guys go on to me.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It sounds that's of course fancy.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
You go on get now, you guys, go on get
thank you, Uh, don't don't forget.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Today is Friday, which means what you learned this week
on the Gary and Shannon Show is coming up a
little bit later.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
It is.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It is at the Kato Marmont. You can get a
group playing sun room. That's the basic package for fifty
dollars per night. Standard bungalow is fifty seven per night.
A private bungalow with a balcony for your cat is
sixty seven per night, and then VK bungalow is seventy
(07:11):
seven dollars per night.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
The ik I don't get.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
It very important kitty, oh kitty as opposed to cat so.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Doctor Tina Alster is a dermatologist treats high powered patients
at a practice in Washington, DC, right there on K Street,
and said in the last couple of years, the portion
of her male clients who come in seeking well defined
jaw lines has more than doubled, from about twenty percent
to fifty percent. Strong chins and jaws, she said, have
(07:42):
driven It's funny in men.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
It's funny because in Washington right now you've got Trump
leading Washington and a country who has a very weak jaw.
The whole family does very weak chin. So it's interesting
that that's going on in Washington. You know, you've got
like the Chuck Connor's jaw. Now I can't I'm suck Connors.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
How about Rick Perry is actually one that was pointed
out several years ago as somebody who had a good,
strong box like jaw. The a doctor, I should say
at the time wrote in twenty twelve, the governor that
is Rick Perry is blessed to have it naturally, but
numerous type of jaw implants are available for those men
who are not so fortunate.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
And I guess a.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Lot of people, a lot of people suggest that strong
chins are the way you're gonna make it.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
In Washington, DC. Now, pizza has been the go to
dinner pace.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
You think I should get a stronger jaw?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
No, what's wrong with your face?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I didn't mean to open it up.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Well, that was a compliment. I just do know how
to say it right.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Oh that's nice. See what you meant to say was
nothing strong with your face?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, I just said it, but I just massaged it
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I have a buttch. And see when you squeezed it together.
Everyone has a button.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Michael Jackson paid to have his chin turned into a butch.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
And yeah, yeah, he paid for a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
He did, He really did.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
It was unnecessary.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Pizza has been the go to dinner a lot of
times for anybody looking to a feed to family, fast, cheap.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It's not cheap anymore. As a thing, good pizza.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
He used to be able to get a pizza for
five bucks, good good, like Little Caesar's.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You could get a whole pizza for five bucks.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
And now it's it's insanely expensive to get a pizza.
It's kind of like Chinese takeout. Chinese takeout used to
be so reasonable. You know, it was a cheap dinner.
You can get a bunch of it. Now it's punitively expensive.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Well, I think Domino's, Papa John's, those are two of
the big ones. Pizza Hut was I guess you could
say was thankful for COVID. Pizza Hut really sort of
got off the schneid. It had been on for a
long time in twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Did it?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Why was that.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Just because everybody was ordering pizza di oh?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I see, yeah, we certainly did. We put down a
lot of pizza.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
The chief executive of Young Brands, which owns Pizza Hut,
says there were several things, including the value of the
taste maker offer. I mean your point, pizza used to
be pretty cheap. They were doing a ten dollars large
pizza with any three.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Topics it enbox.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Interesting though, because it looks like those lower income pizza
eaters are being priced out of the pizza. Same store
sales down at all three pizza chains Dominoes, Papa John's,
and Pizza Hut in the first quarter of twenty five
five percent. For Pizza Hut two point seven percent of
Papa John's down a half a percent at Domino's that
(10:54):
Dominoes did have one thing that they celebrated their takeout.
Have you ever taken out pizza? It's either delivered or
you eat it there.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Oh I picked it up.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, because Little Caesar specifically used to be Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
We used to also have one where was a not
a make your own, but a bake your own pizza,
where you'd order it they would make no, is it no,
they cook it for you.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
They do.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
One like that when we were growing up Murphy's. Murphy's
Pizza so funny.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
My sister worked there and she would always she would
bring home pizzas.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Were great pizzas, but it never felt the same as
like a delivery. It did not cook the same never ever.
Part of the Murphy's taken bake and part of the.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Fountlems with pizza yeah, is that there's so many other
options specifically as well for takeout options.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Plus you've got grub Hub.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Can that turn into Papa Murphy's.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I don't think so. I think those were two sepsk.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
The average price of a large pizza at the top
five chains is eighteen dollars. That overall check jump nearly
thirty percent since twenty nineteen. I mean, it all goes
to your point that pizza is getting more expensive. Part
of it is the problem of the raw materials obviously
are getting more expensive. Pizza re is the average meal
(12:22):
cost between thirty one and fifty dollars per person. They
saw a forty three percent increase in the number of
diners in the first three months of twenty twenty five.
But the top ten percent of US households now account
for half of all consumer spending. That's the highest in
the information that goes all the way back to nineteen
eighty nine. So how the current pizza trend is, which
(12:45):
is again that takeout delivery pizza is down a couple
of percentage points. That could potentially have some bad indications
for the bigger economy.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
As we go farther into this year.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I thought that and divorces were most popular in the
new year, like people.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Make it through Monday of Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I remember doing a story years ago as a reporter
and talking interviewing a defense lawyer who is in Hollywood.
He does like high profile divorces, and he'd been around
decades and he said, oh, yeah, January's definitely our most
popular month because people get through Christmas and they're like,
all right, I can't do it anymore. But that's not
the case anymore. We'll tell you when divorces tend to
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spike in the year.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
When we come back, Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM.
Six forty.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Republicans have been trying to urge them to settle their
very public dispute. The feud between Trump and must probably
best described as a as a moving target. The Trump
administration is asking the Supreme Court to pause a court
order that would reinstate Education Department employees were fired in
mass layoffs as part of the plan to dismantle the
(14:03):
education Department. The Justice Department's emergency appeal to the Supreme
Court said that the district judge in Boston exceeded his
authority last month when he usued a preliminary injunction to
reverse the layoffs of nearly fourteen hundred people and put
the whole the big broad plan on hold for the
most part.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Hey, guys, I used to live up in Sacramento area,
and from what I gathered from all the ogs up there,
I'm talking about like people my mom's age, Papa Murphy's
and Murphy's are the same thing.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
They just went through some sort of name change and
had some.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
Lawsuits to do with the Papa whatever down here pizza chain,
so they just changed the names or whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I've not first hand knowledge. It's just I heard this
from my aunts and all that stuff up there.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
Get on out.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Here, I think now you gots go on gone get
is the way we're going to say.
Speaker 8 (14:55):
So.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Papa Murphy's is the combination of two taken bake pizza companies.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
It was Papa Aldo's Pizza.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
I've never heard of Papa and Murphy's pizza, so they
combined it and made it Papa Murphy's Pizza because we
had a couple of people who said it's not just
Murphy's pizza. So there was originally just a Murphy's Pizza
taken Bake, but also a Papa Aldo's Pizza taken Bake.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I think I remember where the Murphy's Taken Bake was
in my hometown.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
They traced back to eighty one. Papa Aldo's Pizza chain
was founded in Hillsboro, Oregon. In eighty one, Murphy's Pizza
began operating in Petaluma, California, in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Wow, that's funny.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
And then they combined into what now is known as
Papa Murphy's in two thousand and three, voted best pizza
chain in America by Restaurants and Institutions magazine.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Well, I think we got to get a Papa Murphy's
pizza at some point.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
We don't have to, I mean, just for research. Probably
today summer summer.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, go on, get down, pizza.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
We've got to get you into swimsuit readiness.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
How would we know what that looks like?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Oh, we know, I think we know, all right, divorces,
if you don't look good in that swimsuit, that's that's
the next day your wife might cut the cord.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
They say that there is a.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Pattern emerging that divorce filings hit two peaks per year.
One is in late summer and the other is in
early spring.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
They interviewed.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
The MPR reporter interviewed a divorced father of two. He
is a family law attorney. He has twenty five years
in the business, and he says it's a very seasonal business,
similar to the rush CPA's face. Coming tax Day in April,
his firm has twenty seven offices across nine states, and
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he's been keeping meticulous records on the influx of new
clients for the last decade, and he says every year
we see the same thing no matter what state we're
looking at. That while January is often referred to as
divorce month, like we were talking about.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
It's one of the slowest months of the year for
lawyers at his firm.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
That's funny, he said, in December and January, parties just
don't tend to initiate divorce and family law proceedings. It's
a drop off of fifty percent. Whether they're celebrating Christmas
or Honeka or Kwansa, the New year's folks usually put
these cases on hold.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
They refer to the domestic ritual calendar that drives when
people would file for divorce. Once the holidays pass, there's
usually spring break, you got to think about family summer vacations.
Once those have tapered off, married couples can act and
they'll usually do so. And again I refer to that
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domestic ritual calendar. One of those domestic rituals is the
beginning of the school year every fall. At that guy's firm,
he sees a drop of about thirty to fifty percent
in divorce filings during the important family bonding times of
the year, but that they do spike. University Washington analyze
divorce filing information from across that state from twenty one
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to twenty fifteen and said they consistently peak in the
month of March and in the month of August.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Interesting.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
The study examined information from all but two of Washington's
thirty nine counties.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I didn't know this.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
You can end a marriage by mail in Washington State
for the most part.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
He said that.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Actually, I'm Julie Brian's is the one who said this.
She's a sociology professor, and she said that people tend
to face the holidays with rising expectations, despite what disappointments
they may have had in years past.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
People are chronically optimistic. Wow.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
They represent periods in the year when there's this anticipation
or even the opportunity for a new beginning, a new start,
something different, transition into a new period of life. It's
like an optimism cycle in a sense, and then they're
completely let down and whatever faith they had in their
fellow spouse or whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Are you looking at your spouseroid that I don't even
think you're looking necessarily at the spouse.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
You're looking at the bigger picture of life. Oh could
be a whole happy family. Oh wow, something like that.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
That sounds exhausting.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
The president of the Institute for Divorce Financial Analysts dismisses
the idea that discontented couples hold out on splitting up
over sentimental reasons. He says the idea that the divorce
is peak in March because it's right after the joint
tax returns her filed, or every August because it's the
end of summer you just came home from family vacation,
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is inaccurate. Cara Lee says that the numbers of filings
in any given month doesn't indicate much. It's just that
many states have specific waiting periods before you can even
serve the other party.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
There is a more important pattern, they say that has
emerged in recent decades, and it's the average age of
people getting divorced.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Listen to this.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
The only demographic in the US that has seen an
increase in divorce rates are those people over the age
of fifty. It's doubled since nineteen ninety and it's tripled
for people over the age of sixty and the same
period gray divorces. Why, well, we're living longer. Sixty is
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the new forty.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
But I.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Got a big problem with that.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Well, I don't know if I'm talking to my wife
or not, but is there a pa I don't know.
I just don't know what changes in a life between
the ages of fifty and sixty or sixty and seventy
or whatever. Where you've put in thirty forty good years
with somebody and then you get divorce.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Don't rest on the years you have in the bank.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Yeah, yeah, I no, no, And I'm not saying that
that once you hit twenty years stop doing anything. That's
not what I'm saying. You have so much invested at
that point.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
It's I think people strikes me as such a selfish move.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, because the thing is you're not just yeah, there's
a lot of people affected by your decision to do
whatever it is you're going to do. I think a
lot of people, though, are realizing that, you know, they
get to fifty or they get to sixty, and it's
not their parents fifty or sixty or their grandparents fifty
or sixty, that we are living longer and you do
(21:40):
have time for another.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Act or acts. I'm going to get I'm going to
get in trouble for it. For what for saying that that?
That's that there's a selfishness to it.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Why would you get in trouble for that? By whom?
Speaker 4 (21:58):
People are going to say that they got divorced when
they were six and they're living a better life, sorting good.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
That's good for them. For you, that's not what you
want to do.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
We you know, it's it is funny.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I don't have a lot of divorce in my family.
Like I know they're a couple, but I don't. It
wasn't rampant throughout my family or even friends that we had,
families that we were friends with. There were never a
lot of divorces around. And if there were, they were
clearly you know, early on it wasn't, you know, they
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were very I can't think of anybody I can think
of a couple.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Divorce is also a luxury. A lot of people can't
afford to divorce.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
It's funny that you say that because in twenty twenty three,
Louisiana saw the fewest divorces zero point nine divorces per
one thousand people in Louisiana as where maybe one hundred
years ago the rest of the country. You're right, you
had to stay together for financial reasons. You had to stay.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I was reading an article this morning.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
It was an interview with Jamie Lee Curtis, and they
asked her what the secret is to her I believe
forty one year marriage and she said this, and I
thought it was perfect. We just don't leave. We didn't leave. Yeah,
there's gonna be times where it's not all sunshine and rainbows.
(23:18):
Are you gonna say, I'm get the hell out of here?
Or is it too many years of no sunshine and rainbows?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Or is it worse?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Is it not no sunshine and rainbows but just thunder
and lightning and awful and you've got to get out
of there, you know. But for some people, you know,
it's like, well, we just didn't leave, We just stuck
in it.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
That sounds romantic, Well you know what I mean, Like, well,
there are ups and downs.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
It's just a matter of where I mean outside of.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Obviously the abusive relationships are a different story.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I mean, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Yeah, but there are ups and downs, and you've got
to figure out where your roller coaster ends.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
You know, how much are you willing to put up with?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Some people see another roller coaster, you know, they see
raging waters when they're at Magic Mountain, and they're like,
that looks different.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
That water looks fresh.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
It's not that water is not fresh, it is used.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
That water has scattered dag.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
You don't know what's going on. You know what's going
on on your roller coaster.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Great story when we come back about that kid who
works at Burger King. He had to rush over to
work a shift at Burger King right after his high
school graduation.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
We'll tell you how that guy's doing.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Water looks fresh.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Good news in terms of jobs, Hiring slowed less than
expected last month. Hiring sucked less than they expected. Latest
jobs report from Bureau of Labor Statistics is the economy
added one hundred thirty nine thousand jobs in May, above
what the estimate was would was going to be one
hundred and twenty five thousand.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I have a question that has been just bubbling under
the surface of my little mind for.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
A while about one hundred and seventy pounds.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
How much do you weigh?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Is that what you've been thinking?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
No, Oh, I am not obsessed with your weight the
way you are.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Go on.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
So, I don't know if anyone else has noticed this,
but I've noticed a kind of a drop off in
writing when it comes to TV shows and movies.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
And is it just me?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
And am I looking for something else? Am I looking
for something more? Is it just the things that I'm
choosing to watch where the writing just seems a little
subpar from what I remember being great writing. It's noticeable
to me anyway. Then I see this story today. Artificial
intelligence's use in filmmaking is growing, and an annual festival
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is showcasing what its technology can do on the screen.
Today third annual AI Film Festival, organized by Runway, a
company that specializes in AI generated video, kicked off in
New York this week, ten short films from around the
world making their debut. And I'm wondering, is AI already
being used to generate scripts and things?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I mean, only sure?
Speaker 3 (26:24):
How could it not?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Okay? Well, is that what I'm noticing?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Because it's almost like the writing that I'm talking about
in shows and movies, is it's almost there. It's almost there.
I see what they're it's trying to do, but it's
not quite there.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
That's the if you're looking at something visual, that's what
they refer to as that uncanny valley.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Like you, you.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Know it's computer generated, but you don't know why it's
computer jed. There's certain things that your brain does that
can tell the difference between an artificially generated image and
something that a human made. Yeah, and I think there
is probably that when it comes to that kind of
when it comes to writing like.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
That as well.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
It's most noticeable for me with dialogue back and forth
dialogue recently, there probably is something to that.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Whether it's art AI comes up with the even the
I don't know, the skeleton of a script and then
humans go through and punch it up.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Or vice versa.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
You know, you plug in your script for a twenty
two minute episode of some sitcom and ask Ai to
punch it up for you.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I don't know enough about the industry to know if
writers have left, if writers are not as good, if well,
and that's if they're not being used as much.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I have no idea that was One of the big
issues for the writer's strike was making sure that they
continued to have jobs. Studios would prefer Yeah, let's plug
it into an Ai language model and have them spit
out a twenty two episode season Yeah, as opposed to
pay a room of writers to actually do the work.
So Mikhail Baker celebrating high school graduation with his Burger
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King colleagues went viral because he jumped behind the counter
while wearing his graduation cap and gown to lend a hand.
Micah the sister said, I don't think he's ever noticed
how selfless he is until now. This kid in Georgia
won the most selfless person in his high school band
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just a week before. This video showed him bagging orders
while in his graduation gear.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Again.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
The Burger King that he works at was overwhelmed that
day and he showed up just to hang out and
celebrate with some of his friends slash coworkers, and realized
they could use his help. So he jumps behind the
counter wearing his cap and gown.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I've done this.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
You've worked at Burger King, no, but I.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
There were times when I would stop.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
But the deli that I worked at in high school
and college and if they were slammed, I'd jump behind
the counter.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
A local mom, would it you? I think so? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I mean to me, that's that's common sense.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
A local mom sees him wearing his cap and gown
behind the counter at Burger King uh and shares his
TikTok of him bagging bagging orders while wearing his graduation apparel,
and she starts a go fundme page for this kid.
The video itself of him working has four million views.
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A go fundme has raised more than two hundred and
four sorry, two hundred and three thousand dollars. He also
got a ten thousand dollars check from the Burger King Foundation.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Are we that broken of a people that this is
some like over the top gesture, like we're that bad?
That like somebody doing the normal, common sense, decent thing
to do is love to the two of three hundred
thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Yes, wow, I still want to celebrate that kid. Yeah,
I mean he did what your kid?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Wait, you would do the same Your kids would do
the same thing.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Come on, we were talking about divorces, especially those later
in life.
Speaker 8 (30:14):
Hey, guys, for a divorce of older people, I think
there are two times when you're going to really see
more of a spike once it's probably going to be
right around fifty. Once your kids are out of school,
out of college, people feel they don't need to stick
together anymore because they got their kids through the important part.
They're ready to move on with their life, so there's
no reason to stick around. And also in the sixties,
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once you retire, they realized they don't like each other
spending that much time together. It was better when one
of them are both of them went off to work.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
That's why my wife doesn't want me to retire.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah, I I think it's going to change things because
even just your existence in the house, even if you're
like not there.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
You're still there constantly breathing all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
You know, and.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
You have to be you have to rework whatever when
someone RETI retired. My sister is actually retiring here in
a couple of weeks from her job, and I'm curious
to see, like, what are you going to do? Like,
she's a teacher, so she's five days a week, I mean,
nine months out of the year. She knows what she's
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doing and meetings and confidence she says she's going to do.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
She hasn't said anything. I know she's going to Hawaii
for vacation. But other than that, I mean, some.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
People get real cagy around retirement. Not cagy, but not
sensitive anxious. They don't want to answer questions about what
they're going to do, or when they're going to retire,
or what they're going to do. It's one of those
things where I just leave it alone.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
It's what it's a question that does not have to
be answered. Sure.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
I mean, if you're the person who's retiring and somebody
asked me a question and you say, I don't know,
it's perfectly acceptable.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Right, But people don't want to say they don't know,
because you know what, there's something in your head. I
can imagine when you're retiring where you're like, what the
hell am I going to do? Oh, like you have
an idea, like I'm gonna do this or I'm gonna
do that. But then it's like, but it's a very
big milestone in life when, especially if your career I
(32:19):
don't want to say defines you, but how does your
career if you've done it for forty years.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Not defining you in a large way? Of course it.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Does, And I don't know I mean, whatever skills you hate.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
It's it's up there with kids leaving the nest.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Yeah, in terms of life change. Yeah, whatever skills you have,
then how do you find a hobby or whatever to
put those to use?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I see you doing a lot of good working.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
I'd be fine with that.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I know.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
I watched an entire episode of Furniture Restoration.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Y see, I freaking nailed it.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Garie and Shack get it? Did you? Right after this?
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Coming up in the next hour.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
All those stories about Amazon delivery drivers behaving badly, poopin
and the bushes, things like that, well that may be
all in the past because Amazon has employed new delivery workers.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
And they don't have those functions.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah, nothing to see here, No humans, no, no.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
The future is looking very very bleak, and we will
be at the mercy of the robot overlords.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I can't wait.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Baseball Mariners are in town to take on the Angels
later tonight. The Dodgers beat them at six to five,
they'll move on to Saint Louis. Five point fifteen, I
believe is the first pitch. Are you a fisher person, fisherman, fisher,
fisher woman?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
You fish?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I like to fly fish.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I haven't done so in a number of years, but
it's very peaceful.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Fishing boats This week wend fanning out up and down
the coast for the first time in a couple of
years for Chinook Salmon. Coastal Salmon Fishing Band In twenty
three and twenty four tried to help the chinook salmon
numbers rebound.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I got my hands on some Copper River salmon, some
fresh Copper River salmon yesterday at sprouts.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Made that last night so good.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I had salmon last night as well.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
The Copper River. You got to get it.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
It's seasonal, obviously, and the season just began last week,
I think, so you got to get out there and
get it because it flies off the shelves.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
The First Department of Fishing Wildlife limiting ocean fishing for
chinook under quotas and a couple of windows in the
summer in the fall. First one opens tomorrow and they're
allowing for up to seven thousand salmon to be caught statewide.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
So if you're a fisher person, that's an exciting time.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Tons and tons and more tons to get to out
of Washington.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I'm a politician. I'm a politician, which means I'm a
cheat and a liar. And when I'm not kissing baby,
I'm stealing that lollipox.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Yeah, we got.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
The real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
The other side never quit.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I'm not going anywhere. So that how you train the squat,
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been. You know, Murvans have always been going,
They're not stupid.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I have the people voting for you were not swamp watch.
They're all counter knowing.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
So yesterday I was on Twitter more than I've been
on Twitter four years, at least non football news related Twitter,
I guess you could say, because I kept waiting for
this war to escalate throughout the day, and Elon Musk
and Donald Trump took this break up quite public, quite quickly,
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and I feel like we've kind of plateaued today.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Not a lot coming out.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I think there's a lot of hope, whether it's within
the White House or Republicans in general, there's a lot
of hope that this thing flashed and is over right.
I don't think it is, but but that may be
the hope. President Trump did say that he's disappointed in
this discussion, this ongoing social media salvos that have been
(03:17):
going back and forth.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
And I had a great relationship past tense.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
I don't know what will anymore, but I'm very disappointed
in Elon.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I've helped elon a lot, and I'll be honest, I
think he misses the place. Dana Bash from CNN spoke
with President Trump on the phone today.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Well, he said that he's quote well, here's exactly what
he said. Quote, I'm not even thinking about Elon. He's
got a problem. The poor guy's got a problem. He
said he won't be speaking to him for a while,
but he said he wishes Elon Musk well.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Again, I don't think it's over, but I do not
know how this thing resolves itself.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
One if the winners may be the Moon.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
This is one of the more recent narratives to come
out of this fight. The Moon mission may have new life.
Of course, Elon Musk, SpaceX founder, well known Mars enthusiast,
has argued against returning astronauts to the Moon. But with
his forced exit of his ham picked nominee for NASA
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and his fight between himself and the President, a lot
of moonbackers in Congress and in the industry see an
opening and they're seizing it. Clayton Swoop is a former
Congressional advisor on space and he says Elon was the
main reason for the fork in the road for NASA's
human exploration plans, and with his exodus, there's a good
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chance NASA will refocus back to the Moon with the.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Plan of Moon than Mars.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Major A number of major space companies are launching ad
campaigns to going big on the Moon. This is the
first real big pushback to Elon Musk. As we've talked about,
or we talked about earlier. SpaceX has had a series
of failures recently. So his stepback when it came to
naming the new chief of NASA when Trump' said not
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so fast, I don't want your guy, was a huge blow,
maybe a death blow to Elon when it comes to
him being the charter of the territory of where we're headed.
If you've got another a number of other companies with
political capital saying no, we're going to the Moon and
maybe the Moon and then Mars.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
When we come back.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
The plastic surgery procedure that's booming in DC right now,
and what the pizza economy tells us about the actual economy.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I drank it.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, that's going to cause some issues, is it? Whatever
that was? It said? It literally said the word kale
on the side of it.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
It said, don't kale my vibe, which is what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
It looked like a choco frappuccino of some kind.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, I don't know what was in it.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
It had a lot of help know what was in it.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
No, No, you just went ahead and good morning dawn.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Here in Lake Forest a cat hotel.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Aren't cats kind of so sufficient? You know?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Just get some food and water out. Yeah, they'll just
roam around take care of themselves. Yeah, No, sounds fancy.
Now you guys go on to me.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It sounds that's of course fancy.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
You go on get now, you guys, go on get
thank you, Uh, don't don't forget.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Today is Friday, which means what you learned this week
on the Gary and Shannon Show is coming up a
little bit later.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
It is.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It is at the Kato Marmont. You can get a
group playing sun room. That's the basic package for fifty
dollars per night. Standard bungalow is fifty seven per night.
A private bungalow with a balcony for your cat is
sixty seven per night, and then VK bungalow is seventy
(07:11):
seven dollars per night.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
The ik I don't get.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
It very important kitty, oh kitty as opposed to cat so.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Doctor Tina Alster is a dermatologist treats high powered patients
at a practice in Washington, DC, right there on K Street,
and said in the last couple of years, the portion
of her male clients who come in seeking well defined
jaw lines has more than doubled, from about twenty percent
to fifty percent. Strong chins and jaws, she said, have
(07:42):
driven It's funny in men.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
It's funny because in Washington right now you've got Trump
leading Washington and a country who has a very weak jaw.
The whole family does very weak chin. So it's interesting
that that's going on in Washington. You know, you've got
like the Chuck Connor's jaw. Now I can't I'm suck Connors.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
How about Rick Perry is actually one that was pointed
out several years ago as somebody who had a good,
strong box like jaw. The a doctor, I should say
at the time wrote in twenty twelve, the governor that
is Rick Perry is blessed to have it naturally, but
numerous type of jaw implants are available for those men
who are not so fortunate.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
And I guess a.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Lot of people, a lot of people suggest that strong
chins are the way you're gonna make it.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
In Washington, DC. Now, pizza has been the go to
dinner pace.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
You think I should get a stronger jaw?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
No, what's wrong with your face?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I didn't mean to open it up.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Well, that was a compliment. I just do know how
to say it right.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Oh that's nice. See what you meant to say was
nothing strong with your face?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, I just said it, but I just massaged it
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I have a buttch. And see when you squeezed it together.
Everyone has a button.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Michael Jackson paid to have his chin turned into a butch.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
And yeah, yeah, he paid for a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
He did, He really did.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
It was unnecessary.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Pizza has been the go to dinner a lot of
times for anybody looking to a feed to family, fast, cheap.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It's not cheap anymore. As a thing, good pizza.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
He used to be able to get a pizza for
five bucks, good good, like Little Caesar's.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You could get a whole pizza for five bucks.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
And now it's it's insanely expensive to get a pizza.
It's kind of like Chinese takeout. Chinese takeout used to
be so reasonable. You know, it was a cheap dinner.
You can get a bunch of it. Now it's punitively expensive.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Well, I think Domino's, Papa John's, those are two of
the big ones. Pizza Hut was I guess you could
say was thankful for COVID. Pizza Hut really sort of
got off the schneid. It had been on for a
long time in twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Did it?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Why was that.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Just because everybody was ordering pizza di oh?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I see, yeah, we certainly did. We put down a
lot of pizza.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
The chief executive of Young Brands, which owns Pizza Hut,
says there were several things, including the value of the
taste maker offer. I mean your point, pizza used to
be pretty cheap. They were doing a ten dollars large
pizza with any three.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Topics it enbox.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Interesting though, because it looks like those lower income pizza
eaters are being priced out of the pizza. Same store
sales down at all three pizza chains Dominoes, Papa John's,
and Pizza Hut in the first quarter of twenty five
five percent. For Pizza Hut two point seven percent of
Papa John's down a half a percent at Domino's that
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Dominoes did have one thing that they celebrated their takeout.
Have you ever taken out pizza? It's either delivered or
you eat it there.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Oh I picked it up.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, because Little Caesar specifically used to be Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
We used to also have one where was a not
a make your own, but a bake your own pizza,
where you'd order it they would make no, is it no,
they cook it for you.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
They do.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
One like that when we were growing up Murphy's. Murphy's
Pizza so funny.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
My sister worked there and she would always she would
bring home pizzas.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Were great pizzas, but it never felt the same as
like a delivery. It did not cook the same never ever.
Part of the Murphy's taken bake and part of the.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Fountlems with pizza yeah, is that there's so many other
options specifically as well for takeout options.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Plus you've got grub Hub.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Can that turn into Papa Murphy's.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I don't think so. I think those were two sepsk.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
The average price of a large pizza at the top
five chains is eighteen dollars. That overall check jump nearly
thirty percent since twenty nineteen. I mean, it all goes
to your point that pizza is getting more expensive. Part
of it is the problem of the raw materials obviously
are getting more expensive. Pizza re is the average meal
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cost between thirty one and fifty dollars per person. They
saw a forty three percent increase in the number of
diners in the first three months of twenty twenty five.
But the top ten percent of US households now account
for half of all consumer spending. That's the highest in
the information that goes all the way back to nineteen
eighty nine. So how the current pizza trend is, which
(12:45):
is again that takeout delivery pizza is down a couple
of percentage points. That could potentially have some bad indications
for the bigger economy.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
As we go farther into this year.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I thought that and divorces were most popular in the
new year, like people.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Make it through Monday of Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I remember doing a story years ago as a reporter
and talking interviewing a defense lawyer who is in Hollywood.
He does like high profile divorces, and he'd been around
decades and he said, oh, yeah, January's definitely our most
popular month because people get through Christmas and they're like,
all right, I can't do it anymore. But that's not
the case anymore. We'll tell you when divorces tend to
(13:30):
spike in the year.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
When we come back, Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM.
Six forty.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Republicans have been trying to urge them to settle their
very public dispute. The feud between Trump and must probably
best described as a as a moving target. The Trump
administration is asking the Supreme Court to pause a court
order that would reinstate Education Department employees were fired in
mass layoffs as part of the plan to dismantle the
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education Department. The Justice Department's emergency appeal to the Supreme
Court said that the district judge in Boston exceeded his
authority last month when he usued a preliminary injunction to
reverse the layoffs of nearly fourteen hundred people and put
the whole the big broad plan on hold for the
most part.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Hey, guys, I used to live up in Sacramento area,
and from what I gathered from all the ogs up there,
I'm talking about like people my mom's age, Papa Murphy's
and Murphy's are the same thing.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
They just went through some sort of name change and
had some.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
Lawsuits to do with the Papa whatever down here pizza chain,
so they just changed the names or whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I've not first hand knowledge. It's just I heard this
from my aunts and all that stuff up there.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
Get on out.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Here, I think now you gots go on gone get
is the way we're going to say.
Speaker 8 (14:55):
So.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Papa Murphy's is the combination of two taken bake pizza companies.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
It was Papa Aldo's Pizza.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
I've never heard of Papa and Murphy's pizza, so they
combined it and made it Papa Murphy's Pizza because we
had a couple of people who said it's not just
Murphy's pizza. So there was originally just a Murphy's Pizza
taken Bake, but also a Papa Aldo's Pizza taken Bake.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I think I remember where the Murphy's Taken Bake was
in my hometown.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
They traced back to eighty one. Papa Aldo's Pizza chain
was founded in Hillsboro, Oregon. In eighty one, Murphy's Pizza
began operating in Petaluma, California, in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Wow, that's funny.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
And then they combined into what now is known as
Papa Murphy's in two thousand and three, voted best pizza
chain in America by Restaurants and Institutions magazine.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Well, I think we got to get a Papa Murphy's
pizza at some point.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
We don't have to, I mean, just for research. Probably
today summer summer.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, go on, get down, pizza.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
We've got to get you into swimsuit readiness.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
How would we know what that looks like?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Oh, we know, I think we know, all right, divorces,
if you don't look good in that swimsuit, that's that's
the next day your wife might cut the cord.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
They say that there is a.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Pattern emerging that divorce filings hit two peaks per year.
One is in late summer and the other is in
early spring.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
They interviewed.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
The MPR reporter interviewed a divorced father of two. He
is a family law attorney. He has twenty five years
in the business, and he says it's a very seasonal business,
similar to the rush CPA's face. Coming tax Day in April,
his firm has twenty seven offices across nine states, and
(16:59):
he's been keeping meticulous records on the influx of new
clients for the last decade, and he says every year
we see the same thing no matter what state we're
looking at. That while January is often referred to as
divorce month, like we were talking about.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
It's one of the slowest months of the year for
lawyers at his firm.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
That's funny, he said, in December and January, parties just
don't tend to initiate divorce and family law proceedings. It's
a drop off of fifty percent. Whether they're celebrating Christmas
or Honeka or Kwansa, the New year's folks usually put
these cases on hold.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
They refer to the domestic ritual calendar that drives when
people would file for divorce. Once the holidays pass, there's
usually spring break, you got to think about family summer vacations.
Once those have tapered off, married couples can act and
they'll usually do so. And again I refer to that
(17:53):
domestic ritual calendar. One of those domestic rituals is the
beginning of the school year every fall. At that guy's firm,
he sees a drop of about thirty to fifty percent
in divorce filings during the important family bonding times of
the year, but that they do spike. University Washington analyze
divorce filing information from across that state from twenty one
(18:15):
to twenty fifteen and said they consistently peak in the
month of March and in the month of August.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Interesting.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
The study examined information from all but two of Washington's
thirty nine counties.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I didn't know this.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
You can end a marriage by mail in Washington State
for the most part.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
He said that.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Actually, I'm Julie Brian's is the one who said this.
She's a sociology professor, and she said that people tend
to face the holidays with rising expectations, despite what disappointments
they may have had in years past.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
People are chronically optimistic. Wow.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
They represent periods in the year when there's this anticipation
or even the opportunity for a new beginning, a new start,
something different, transition into a new period of life. It's
like an optimism cycle in a sense, and then they're
completely let down and whatever faith they had in their
fellow spouse or whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Are you looking at your spouseroid that I don't even
think you're looking necessarily at the spouse.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
You're looking at the bigger picture of life. Oh could
be a whole happy family. Oh wow, something like that.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
That sounds exhausting.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
The president of the Institute for Divorce Financial Analysts dismisses
the idea that discontented couples hold out on splitting up
over sentimental reasons. He says the idea that the divorce
is peak in March because it's right after the joint
tax returns her filed, or every August because it's the
end of summer you just came home from family vacation,
(19:46):
is inaccurate. Cara Lee says that the numbers of filings
in any given month doesn't indicate much. It's just that
many states have specific waiting periods before you can even
serve the other party.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
There is a more important pattern, they say that has
emerged in recent decades, and it's the average age of
people getting divorced.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Listen to this.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
The only demographic in the US that has seen an
increase in divorce rates are those people over the age
of fifty. It's doubled since nineteen ninety and it's tripled
for people over the age of sixty and the same
period gray divorces. Why, well, we're living longer. Sixty is
(20:29):
the new forty.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
But I.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Got a big problem with that.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Well, I don't know if I'm talking to my wife
or not, but is there a pa I don't know.
I just don't know what changes in a life between
the ages of fifty and sixty or sixty and seventy
or whatever. Where you've put in thirty forty good years
with somebody and then you get divorce.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Don't rest on the years you have in the bank.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Yeah, yeah, I no, no, And I'm not saying that
that once you hit twenty years stop doing anything. That's
not what I'm saying. You have so much invested at
that point.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
It's I think people strikes me as such a selfish move.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, because the thing is you're not just yeah, there's
a lot of people affected by your decision to do
whatever it is you're going to do. I think a
lot of people, though, are realizing that, you know, they
get to fifty or they get to sixty, and it's
not their parents fifty or sixty or their grandparents fifty
or sixty, that we are living longer and you do
(21:40):
have time for another.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Act or acts. I'm going to get I'm going to
get in trouble for it. For what for saying that that?
That's that there's a selfishness to it.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Why would you get in trouble for that? By whom?
Speaker 4 (21:58):
People are going to say that they got divorced when
they were six and they're living a better life, sorting good.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
That's good for them. For you, that's not what you
want to do.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
We you know, it's it is funny.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I don't have a lot of divorce in my family.
Like I know they're a couple, but I don't. It
wasn't rampant throughout my family or even friends that we had,
families that we were friends with. There were never a
lot of divorces around. And if there were, they were
clearly you know, early on it wasn't, you know, they
(22:31):
were very I can't think of anybody I can think
of a couple.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Divorce is also a luxury. A lot of people can't
afford to divorce.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
It's funny that you say that because in twenty twenty three,
Louisiana saw the fewest divorces zero point nine divorces per
one thousand people in Louisiana as where maybe one hundred
years ago the rest of the country. You're right, you
had to stay together for financial reasons. You had to stay.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I was reading an article this morning.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
It was an interview with Jamie Lee Curtis, and they
asked her what the secret is to her I believe
forty one year marriage and she said this, and I
thought it was perfect. We just don't leave. We didn't leave. Yeah,
there's gonna be times where it's not all sunshine and rainbows.
(23:18):
Are you gonna say, I'm get the hell out of here?
Or is it too many years of no sunshine and rainbows?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Or is it worse?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Is it not no sunshine and rainbows but just thunder
and lightning and awful and you've got to get out
of there, you know. But for some people, you know,
it's like, well, we just didn't leave, We just stuck
in it.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
That sounds romantic, Well you know what I mean, Like, well,
there are ups and downs.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
It's just a matter of where I mean outside of.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Obviously the abusive relationships are a different story.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I mean, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Yeah, but there are ups and downs, and you've got
to figure out where your roller coaster ends.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
You know, how much are you willing to put up with?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Some people see another roller coaster, you know, they see
raging waters when they're at Magic Mountain, and they're like,
that looks different.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
That water looks fresh.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
It's not that water is not fresh, it is used.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
That water has scattered dag.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
You don't know what's going on. You know what's going
on on your roller coaster.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Great story when we come back about that kid who
works at Burger King. He had to rush over to
work a shift at Burger King right after his high
school graduation.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
We'll tell you how that guy's doing.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Water looks fresh.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Good news in terms of jobs, Hiring slowed less than
expected last month. Hiring sucked less than they expected. Latest
jobs report from Bureau of Labor Statistics is the economy
added one hundred thirty nine thousand jobs in May, above
what the estimate was would was going to be one
hundred and twenty five thousand.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I have a question that has been just bubbling under
the surface of my little mind for.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
A while about one hundred and seventy pounds.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
How much do you weigh?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Is that what you've been thinking?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
No, Oh, I am not obsessed with your weight the
way you are.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Go on.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
So, I don't know if anyone else has noticed this,
but I've noticed a kind of a drop off in
writing when it comes to TV shows and movies.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
And is it just me?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
And am I looking for something else? Am I looking
for something more? Is it just the things that I'm
choosing to watch where the writing just seems a little
subpar from what I remember being great writing. It's noticeable
to me anyway. Then I see this story today. Artificial
intelligence's use in filmmaking is growing, and an annual festival
(26:02):
is showcasing what its technology can do on the screen.
Today third annual AI Film Festival, organized by Runway, a
company that specializes in AI generated video, kicked off in
New York this week, ten short films from around the
world making their debut. And I'm wondering, is AI already
being used to generate scripts and things?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I mean, only sure?
Speaker 3 (26:24):
How could it not?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Okay? Well, is that what I'm noticing?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Because it's almost like the writing that I'm talking about
in shows and movies, is it's almost there. It's almost there.
I see what they're it's trying to do, but it's
not quite there.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
That's the if you're looking at something visual, that's what
they refer to as that uncanny valley.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Like you, you.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Know it's computer generated, but you don't know why it's
computer jed. There's certain things that your brain does that
can tell the difference between an artificially generated image and
something that a human made. Yeah, and I think there
is probably that when it comes to that kind of
when it comes to writing like.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
That as well.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
It's most noticeable for me with dialogue back and forth
dialogue recently, there probably is something to that.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Whether it's art AI comes up with the even the
I don't know, the skeleton of a script and then
humans go through and punch it up.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Or vice versa.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
You know, you plug in your script for a twenty
two minute episode of some sitcom and ask Ai to
punch it up for you.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I don't know enough about the industry to know if
writers have left, if writers are not as good, if well,
and that's if they're not being used as much.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I have no idea that was One of the big
issues for the writer's strike was making sure that they
continued to have jobs. Studios would prefer Yeah, let's plug
it into an Ai language model and have them spit
out a twenty two episode season Yeah, as opposed to
pay a room of writers to actually do the work.
So Mikhail Baker celebrating high school graduation with his Burger
(28:08):
King colleagues went viral because he jumped behind the counter
while wearing his graduation cap and gown to lend a hand.
Micah the sister said, I don't think he's ever noticed
how selfless he is until now. This kid in Georgia
won the most selfless person in his high school band
(28:30):
just a week before. This video showed him bagging orders
while in his graduation gear.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Again.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
The Burger King that he works at was overwhelmed that
day and he showed up just to hang out and
celebrate with some of his friends slash coworkers, and realized
they could use his help. So he jumps behind the
counter wearing his cap and gown.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I've done this.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
You've worked at Burger King, no, but I.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
There were times when I would stop.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
But the deli that I worked at in high school
and college and if they were slammed, I'd jump behind
the counter.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
A local mom, would it you? I think so? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I mean to me, that's that's common sense.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
A local mom sees him wearing his cap and gown
behind the counter at Burger King uh and shares his
TikTok of him bagging bagging orders while wearing his graduation apparel,
and she starts a go fundme page for this kid.
The video itself of him working has four million views.
(29:35):
A go fundme has raised more than two hundred and
four sorry, two hundred and three thousand dollars. He also
got a ten thousand dollars check from the Burger King Foundation.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Are we that broken of a people that this is
some like over the top gesture, like we're that bad?
That like somebody doing the normal, common sense, decent thing
to do is love to the two of three hundred
thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Yes, wow, I still want to celebrate that kid. Yeah,
I mean he did what your kid?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Wait, you would do the same Your kids would do
the same thing.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Come on, we were talking about divorces, especially those later
in life.
Speaker 8 (30:14):
Hey, guys, for a divorce of older people, I think
there are two times when you're going to really see
more of a spike once it's probably going to be
right around fifty. Once your kids are out of school,
out of college, people feel they don't need to stick
together anymore because they got their kids through the important part.
They're ready to move on with their life, so there's
no reason to stick around. And also in the sixties,
(30:36):
once you retire, they realized they don't like each other
spending that much time together. It was better when one
of them are both of them went off to work.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
That's why my wife doesn't want me to retire.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah, I I think it's going to change things because
even just your existence in the house, even if you're
like not there.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
You're still there constantly breathing all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
You know, and.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
You have to be you have to rework whatever when
someone RETI retired. My sister is actually retiring here in
a couple of weeks from her job, and I'm curious
to see, like, what are you going to do? Like,
she's a teacher, so she's five days a week, I mean,
nine months out of the year. She knows what she's
(31:25):
doing and meetings and confidence she says she's going to do.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
She hasn't said anything. I know she's going to Hawaii
for vacation. But other than that, I mean, some.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
People get real cagy around retirement. Not cagy, but not
sensitive anxious. They don't want to answer questions about what
they're going to do, or when they're going to retire,
or what they're going to do. It's one of those
things where I just leave it alone.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
It's what it's a question that does not have to
be answered. Sure.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
I mean, if you're the person who's retiring and somebody
asked me a question and you say, I don't know,
it's perfectly acceptable.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Right, But people don't want to say they don't know,
because you know what, there's something in your head. I
can imagine when you're retiring where you're like, what the
hell am I going to do? Oh, like you have
an idea, like I'm gonna do this or I'm gonna
do that. But then it's like, but it's a very
big milestone in life when, especially if your career I
(32:19):
don't want to say defines you, but how does your
career if you've done it for forty years.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Not defining you in a large way? Of course it.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Does, And I don't know I mean, whatever skills you hate.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
It's it's up there with kids leaving the nest.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Yeah, in terms of life change. Yeah, whatever skills you have,
then how do you find a hobby or whatever to
put those to use?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I see you doing a lot of good working.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
I'd be fine with that.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I know.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
I watched an entire episode of Furniture Restoration.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Y see, I freaking nailed it.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Garie and Shack get it? Did you? Right after this?
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