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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
I A M six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show
on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Texted one of my
Padres friends this morning, how those say? How those Padres doing?
They don't The Padres fans do not like s talking.
No response, there's no. They're not good at it. They're
(00:23):
not good at it. They beat the Giants, Yeah, but
they're still in third place.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Uh, you'd have to check that, but yeah, I think
they are behind them. Listen, Padres fans, I mean they're
they're good. They're when they're right and high, they're they're
a love delightful people, lovely people. But when they're losing, man,
and I'm listen, I can't.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Take the heat. Get out of the NLS.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
As a Giants fan, it's hard to exist in southern
California because all you're surrounded by Dodgers fans. And but
there's that good friendly teta tet, if you will, the
friendly given.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Tet, the old ballpark, the fun testing of each other's.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Jibes against each o, the jibes.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
A gentlemanly sport.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Ah, Man, you tangle some of those Padres fans from
there in third place.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
You don't mess a out with those people.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
I can only imagine how said Jeff olrich Is over
that one hundred thousand dollars. I remember how said my
dad was when I called a nine hundred number once
and it was like five bucks, right, it was like
thirty years ago, and I still never.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Heard the Yeah, my dad would get mad if I
stayed on too long with my grandma, his mother because
of the long distance charge. You know what I mean, Like,
dads don't play when it comes to money. Even if
you had a career in the NFL and you have
a bunch of money. And I don't know how much
Jeff Olbrick made, but he had a pretty substantial career
from what I remember, didn't make the nearly the money
(01:46):
they make now. But I mean, dads do not play
when it comes to money. Like it could be five dollars,
it could be wasting. It's the wasting of the money.
And this is an enormous waste of one hundred thousand dollars.
This isn't your kid wanted to go to Duke and
you paid a bunch of money and you paid tuition.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Then the kids like I'm not into it.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Years ago puppetry degree. Yeah, and then you just got
to eat it like that's that's different.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
This is an enormous waste of a hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Where do those fines generally go? Do they go to
like NFL Foundation or something?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
It doesn't matter, I know, I'm just curious the dynamic duo.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I really think you guys should market that T shirt
that's saying.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
You have an acceptable face.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I like it, you guys an acceptable face.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I gotta say that just is not for a throwaway comment.
That is not going away anytime.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Soon, is it? It's time for swamp. I got a
politician that one. Yeah, that's all right. You're going to
confuse el Murphy. I mean, that's all right. Politicians. We
did a different time yesterday. And when I'm not kissing beat,
I'm stealing that we.
Speaker 7 (03:07):
Got the real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
So what I'm not going anywhere? So that now you train.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
The swat, I can imagine what can be and be
unburdened by what has been, you know, have.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Always been gone a president, they're not stupid.
Speaker 8 (03:26):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Have the people voted for you were not swap watch
they're all counting on.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Okay, okay, well, what were you going to say? It's
not real important. Trump's cabinet. He had a cabinet meeting
today at the White House. Uh, They're doing this on
a very regular basis. He starts with comments.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Today's comments had to do with the GDP numbers that
came out this morning for GDP.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
And this is you know, you probably saw some numbers today,
and I have to start off, I say, that's Biden.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
That's not because we came in on January. Just a
quarterly numbers.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Now, what he does is he's saying that when you
take out some of the extraneous numbers, the economy still
has some strength to it. Peter Navarro, the Trade advisor,
also put quite the spin on it this morning.
Speaker 9 (04:17):
This was the best negative print, as they say in
the Trade for GDP, I have ever seen in my life.
It really should be very positive news for America.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Okay, I don't know about that, but it is the
three tenths of a percent drop in GDP for the
first quarter of the year. Trump blamed it on Biden.
And said as much in a truth social post. It
was one of the issues that came up last night,
very long one hundred day interview, with a very long
(04:51):
interview to mark one hundred days in office. He did
it with ABC News as Terry Moran, did you hear
the line?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
He said?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
As to he, Trump apparently got to choose who did
the interview. That was part of the deal that they struck, okay,
and he said he chose Terry Moran and not David
Muir or George Stephanopolis because he had never heard of him.
He had never heard of Terry Moran, which was a
of course, it was a dig. Of of course, it
(05:20):
was quite the line. But anyway, Terry Moran had asked him,
things are not going well economically, at least, you know,
tariff wise. Stock markets are down, people are losing money
in their four oh one k's. We're not seeing the relief,
the general price relief that we were expecting, although egg
prices have gone down, gas prices have gone down and
(05:42):
things like that. So Terry Moran asked him, did people
sign up for this when they voted for you?
Speaker 7 (05:48):
Well, they did sign up for it, actually, And this
is what I campaigned on I said that we've been
abused by other countries at levels that nobody's ever seen before.
I could have left it that way, and at some
point that would have been an implosion like nobody's ever seen,
but I said no, we have to fix it.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Also on Capitol Hill today, the Senate Commerce Committee has
appeared poised to advance that bill to make daylight saving
time permanent. It seems lawmakers are coalescing around the idea
of ending the practice of changing the clocks twice a year.
(06:27):
The panel is deeply divided over whether to embrace permanent
daylight saving time or standard time.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
However, they don't.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
So they're in agreement to some.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Degree to stop f and with the clocks just pick
a time, but they can't decide on the time. Ted
Cruz is a committee chair. He said, there are times
when you have a hearing on a bill and you're
trying to move forward with a bill and you think
there's a clear right answer. This is not one of
those times, at least for me.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
He says.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
The testimony we're heard at the beginning persuaded me that
we should lock the clock. The practice of springing forward
and falling backward every year. Doesn't make sense. He went
on to vote to advance the legislation. This is from
Rick Scott, which would move to make daylight saving time
the default. That would result in the more daylight in
(07:17):
the evening hours with less in the morning.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
It would stay.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Well, you get into late mid late December and you're
driving to work at eight in the morning and it's
still dark, that'd be weird. Not eight, yeah, yeah, yeah,
pretty close. D eight o'clock it would still be dark.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
No, yes, maybe seven. We did the math on this before.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
It's still dark at seven when you drive now, and
it's not Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
No, it's not.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
It's light.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
It is light when I'm in my ballet zoom class
at sixteen twenty right now.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yes, I'm talking about December. December.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
In December, when you're driving to work at seven in
the morning, it's still dark outside.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Not eight though. But if we change the clock.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
I'm not going to die on this hill. It's not like.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Old But here's what's funny. Here's not funny.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
The State Commerce Committee to me, this.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Is like I don't I could care just choose, I
don't care.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
To choose, and then let's stopping with the clock. It's
one one.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
They both come with their benefits and their and their detractions.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I'm angry that there's that much of an argument. Angry.
I am also out of Washington, d c.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
They Supreme Court today was hearing arguments on a bid
to create the nation's first tax payer funded religious charter school.
All right, this one is down in Oklahoma. Some unusual
things about it. In that Justice Amy Cony Barrett has
recused herself apparent least she's very close friends with somebody
who wants to represent Saint Isidore of Seville Catholic Virtual School.
(08:56):
Chief Justice round John Roberts is considered to be going
to be this wing vote because with the three traditionally
liberal justices and now the five conservative justices. At the
onset of the argument, he was questioning some of the
positions that were advanced by the Catholic School, but by
(09:17):
the time the two hour argument concluded, he seemed a
little bit more open to siding with the school. So
we'll see exactly how that plays out. But one of
those big Supreme Court cases that's going to get a
lot of attention when it's decided later in the spring.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Coming up next the Netflix CEO says movie theaters are outdated. Well, no,
s Do they have a plan on how to move
them into the future or are we just going to
get rid of them.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
We'll talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 10 (09:46):
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Houston's pitcher today is a kid named aj blue Ball Okay,
and his mom and two sisters were watching him pitch.
You just pitched the top of the first inning and
they were bawling watching their son and brothers.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
That is first time pitching.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, it's rookie.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
That's great, That's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
That's so, it's a fun thing to see. All right.
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Speaker 1 (11:00):
Ted Sarandos is the Netflix CEO, and he did an
interview recently. It started with this question, have you sorry?
Have you destroyed Hollywood?
Speaker 11 (11:13):
Things do not look so good in the entertainment industry.
The box office is down, the LA film business is shaky,
people are out of work. Your competitor's market share is sinking.
But Netflix business is thriving. Have you destroyed Hollywood?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Now we're saving Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
You're saving Hollywood. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Look, what's the big difference of everything you just listed
there is that Netflix is a very consumer focused company.
We really do care that we deliver the program into
you in a way you want to watch it, that
it's programming that you love and desire, So we don't
let you know, a lot of other outside forces get
in the way of that. So an example, I think
is that you mentioned the box office being down, just
(11:54):
by way of example, what does that say. What is
the consumer trying to tell us that they'd like to
watch movies at home, thank you? And the studios and
the theaters are duking it out over trying to preserve
this forty five day window that is completely out of
step with the consumer experience of just living a movie.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
He makes some great points there.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
The idea of this forty five day window, by the way,
is that theater owners want to keep exclusivity. They want
to be able to say that first run movies are
only available in movie theaters for the first forty five days,
and even then. The way it's working now is the
movie can have that exclusivity, or the theaters can have
that exclusivity. But then once it goes to streaming, you
(12:34):
can get relatively recent movies if you're willing to pay
nineteen bucks for him. In some cases you wait a
little bit longer the priceper is down.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Going to the movie and sitting with the crooks, Yeah,
the crooks.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
I just assume everyone's a crook.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
What I met the crowds and it gave out crooks.
I don't know why, But sitting with a Brooks on
the I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Why said that.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Sitting with the crowds and their noises and their bodiliest situations.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
You know, I'm not a fan.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
And that's one thing that did not make a comeback
from you post pandemic. I used to love going to
the theater, movie theater, and I just cannot watch a
movie with strangers.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
And I worked in a movie theater for a couple
of summers and it was the greatest time.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, it never took away.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
You know, sometimes people, if you get a little too
close to something that mad joy, then you start to
see how bad. I never lost it. I always loved
about that with football. I love the smell of the
popcorn and the stickiness of the floor.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
There was always something about it.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
And part of the part of the allure was you
could never even come close to mimicking that experience at home. Yeah,
and now you can. I mean now you can get
a TV that's too big for your wall, and you
can get a sound system that and you can.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Get the popcorn in the M and M.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I need get the popcorn. You get it all. You
can get the whole thing, and the probably the biggest one.
I don't think there's one. Oh right here, the pause button.
You can pee and you don't have to race to
the pisser.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Yeah, say that, and you can answer the door or
the phone.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, if you choose all sorts of things. You can
get ice cream. How did you know that that you
go and get ice cream? It's not and it was
because what's better than a movie at home with ice cream?
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Ice cream?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
He did say that there are limited theatrical releases. Again,
this is Ted Sarandos, the CEO at at Netflix. One
of the things because they are not just a they're
not just a clearing house for movies, they're a producer
as well. Is they have produced movies that then go
(14:51):
into the movie theaters. First Knives Out, Glass Onion Emilia
Perez was a Netflix movie that started in the theaters
and then made its way to the street service. And
he referred to some of the rules for the Academy
Awards are that you have to have at least some
movie theater exposure before that show would be eligible for awards,
(15:15):
and that was one of the things that he has
talked to. But he said one of the things that
he encourages each of the directors that work with Netflix
now is give the audience what they want. If it
is a big action movie that they want to go
see in a theater, yeah, let's open it in a
movie theater.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Let's make it a theatrical release.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
But if it's something that's a little quieter, a little slower,
maybe a little more dramatic that you don't need a
giant screen for, throw it on Netflix and make it
available to everybody.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Amen. Brother, you say that again. Amen, brother, say you
with your chest? Amen? Brother? All right?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Justin Wisham's coming up next. How did it get to
be eleven thirty? Where did the day go?
Speaker 3 (15:54):
I do not know.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I mean, we were talking about escape kangaroos and the laws.
We learned that we can and have a kangaroo without
a permit in South Carolina. Other than that, I don't
remember what else we've talked about today.
Speaker 10 (16:07):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 1 (16:13):
Don't forget to let us know what you are watching.
It is a what you watch on Wednesday. We have
been into what I've been into Friends and Neighbors with
John ham Hacks Season four, I'm trying to get into
that ballet Amazon Prime show at twelve. There's moments where
(16:34):
I love it and there's moments where I'm like, eh,
so I'm trying to see if it's one.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Of those just wait till episode four situations.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
And it's a whole series. I thought it was a movie.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
This is a series.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
I thought I was going to leave my wife for
one night and let her get it out of her system, and.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Now it's she she's not impressed by it. Yeah, I
haven't been either. I mean, there's parts of it that
I'm like, that's well done. There's actual ballet dancers, actual
dancing going on, which is odd. It's usually they kind
of fake their way through that if it's going to
be a show about dancing.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
But that's my favorite.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Thing whenever there's dancing, and I always ask my wife,
I'm like, are they really good?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Ever?
Speaker 10 (17:07):
Good?
Speaker 5 (17:08):
And these ones are really good.
Speaker 8 (17:10):
She's got she's more of a hip hop dancer pretending
to be a ballerinas like.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Save the Last Man?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
All right, nailed it. Justin Morsham has joined us takes. Yeah,
we talked with you.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Don't get me started on center stage because that's a
whole other thing.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Justin is probably the most popular multi hyphen it here.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
It's how does that work?
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Well?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
We talk about parenting on Wednesdays and on Sundays you
roll in and talk about real estate.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
These are renaissance to talk about adulting.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Uh, let's talk about successful kids that working on one
key emotion.
Speaker 8 (17:50):
And this was I gotta be honest, I was taken
aback by this that the key emotion for your kids
to grow up successful is awe.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
And I if I'm reading.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
This correctly based on the information of the study, is
that the parents need to be in awe of their children.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
What.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, I thought it was going to be keep the
awe in your kids as long as possible, so where
your kids are like, oh, that's wonderful or that's great,
or that's beautiful or that's cool or you know, so
your kids aren't jaded quicker than they should be.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
And that could because there's other parts of it where
they allude to the fact that the parents who were
also experiencing awe. So what my general takeaway from it
was is that if your bar is very low, then
you tend to be happier in general and maybe more successful.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I think parents should be in awe of their kids.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Don't give it the kids. The power, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I mean, don't get me wrong, My kids have there.
Speaker 8 (18:42):
Each of them have had two moments or one each
where I was genuinely, insincerely in awe of what they
decided to do. So I was proud of them that
the proud pride is the second in this study. So
you the number one emotion for the predictor of success
is awe, and pride is number two, which I thought
was all.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
When I think of in awe of something, I think like.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Delighted or surprised by the magnitude.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
They did the thing, and I'll try and pull it
up here. They did the thing of they gave you like.
The Webster's Dictionary defines all as and uh and a
different one the Merriam Webster Dictionary. An emotion variously combining dread, veneration,
and wonder that is inspired by authority or by the
sacred or sublime.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Now hit the second one if you don't mind a
strong now this one from dictionary dot com. An overwhelming
feeling of reverence, admiration, fear, et cetera, produced by what
produced by that which is grand, sublime, extremely powerful or
the light.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Something that should be revered is not your child. Yeah,
and that's what.
Speaker 8 (19:40):
So again, this just kind of threw me off my
balance because I'm like, am I supposed to be admire
And there's a lot again, there's a lot of ways
that I genuinely, sincerely do admire my kids. But I
don't know, I don't know that you know, like to
me the equivalent of like, you know, who rescued who?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Well amazed if this kid does something kind or de know, wonderful,
you can.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Can you imagine being a base because your kid does
something kind? So true, but my kids are selfish, little being.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
Kids made me dinner last night while I was on
like a zoom meeting. And that's really like he was
sick or he was inhabited by an alien.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I'm like, you're doing that.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
That is when awe comes in conversation.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
So along those lines, when when you say awe, I
think of the context of like, this is the most
beautiful sunset I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I can't wrap my head around what is going on
right now.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
If you if you are in awe of your kids,
maybe it's not because of what they've done, but you're like,
I can't believe that two human beings can get together
and create another human being.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I'm in awe of that person, and.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
You're in awe of yourself, not the kid.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
It did say.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
The author of the article said, when I read things
like this, it reminds me, if I needed it to,
that being a parent really is an almost comprehensible gift,
which I do not feel that being a parent is
an incomprehensive gift.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
It sounds like I feel like it's a.
Speaker 8 (21:06):
Job that I signed up for that I didn't know
what I was getting into.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
But I do enjoy like that's how I like from
time to time. That's a better way to say, I
enjoy it from time to time. I do not find
joy in it every day. I don't. I probably am
through big swaths of it. I didn't.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
I could say I did not find enjoyment from it
most of the time. Right there, it's fleeting moments of joy,
and I have enjoyed.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
It moment it's worth it.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
They do that, But again, I don't know if this
is like an evolutionary thing that we've just had, Like
it has to be ingrained in us that we have
to psychologically think that because he smiles after he farts
when he's.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Kept me up all night, but that makes it all
worth it. Maybe it is, but it's still there's a.
Speaker 8 (21:44):
Little bit of, like I don't know, sociopathic aspects to it,
that you have to like trick yourself into finding the
fun and being beat on and vomited on.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
That's fine, it's true.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I mean, parents do make allowances for their kids a lot.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
And then they get older and all they do is not.
Speaker 8 (21:59):
Appreciate you and become generally annoyed by you and don't
want you around. Like so, I'm just when I see this,
it's a thing that's very conflicting for me because obviously
I come to here, I cry about my kids.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I love them dearly.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
I could not imagine my life being any different than
what it is, but I did not. I do not
think I would use awe to describe how I feel
a good chunk of the time. And maybe we'll see,
maybe my kids will be less successful because of it.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
No, that is not true, you know, because.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Listen, you're a successful guy. I thank you. Clearly I
have hyphens.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Your dad would not be in awe of you. No,
and if he was, he would never admit it. Which
is a funny thing because I feel like this is
the push towards telling your kids that you're in awe
of them, and that I think puts a very that's
a bad move.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
That's awful. It's so stupid. I think it's really stupid.
I feel like the thing that I've strived for is
to hear that my parents are proud of me.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
That's like the number one thing.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
And I think, and.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
It's never changed throughout my entire life, like that's what
I want.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
You want that?
Speaker 8 (23:05):
And there's this weird I think high wire tuggle war
whatever where it's like because if they give the pride
too fast and easy, then it's like it doesn't feel earned.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
They've got to pay attention to.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
You for thirty five years.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Exactly right, like you can't. But isn't it funny how
we all we all have these similar vibes like I
have this one, and you should want that as a kid.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
You should want to make your parent proud and your
parents should want to be proud of you.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
You know all of these things.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
The awe thing is just like give me that's a
little too new parent age foo food to me be
in awe of your check coming back.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
This right here is my biggest feared anxiety I've always
had as a parent is that I've always felt exactly
like we're all saying we feel yeah, but I'm like,
what if everybody else who is blowing that much sunshine
up their kids a that like that's they're actually the one.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I have a lot of friends, most of my friends
have kids, and that that is never a conversation I
was in of my daughter and like, that's not a thing.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I've never heard somebody keep that much praise on that.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
But let me go back to what I said earlier,
when I said that when you think of awe, of
being in awe of something this bigger than you, I'm
in awe of the skyscraper that I would never be
able to design or build or anything.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
If you.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Display that, if you show that to your kids, not
directed towards them, but you show them that you are
still capable of being impressed by something that I think
is a good quality today exactly because then that gives
that gives the kid the ability to not be a
giant jade, like you said earlier, a jaded a hole
through the rest of their life.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
One of my least favorite things when a child is
not impressed by something.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, I agree. I mean they should all be impressed
by you. No no, no, no, not me.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I mean by you know, even if it's just like
a meal out or they got for Christmas.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Like, they can't wrap their head around the fact they
don't deserve it. You gave it to them because you
you love them, right whatever, right, But they don't get
the awe that should be involved with Yeah, you spent
how much money on a game system that's gonna eat
my brain out?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, I love it, Thank you. Yeah, I'm at all
of you. I'm in awe of that. I mean that
I pulled a fast one on.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I will get the you know, text messages from friends
like can you believe they're you know, thirteen and fifteen?
Can you believe I made these kids? You know what
I mean kind of thing, and and.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
That I get the awe there of like you.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Know, like we were talking about, I can see that like,
oh my god, I did this, we did this, We've
all done this, the family has done this. Look at them.
They're they're grown up and they're not broken.
Speaker 8 (25:37):
So here's one last bit of perspective is that it
also says there was a twenty twenty study that found
that if you spent fifteen minutes in a walk out
in nature where the things you were seeing were things
that you would be considered to be in awe of,
you were significantly more likely to feel pro social emotions.
So what if like, let's just say the parent is
(25:58):
very easily find finds themselves in a state of awe
and that somehow begets this perspective for the kid because
they're modeling it to also just appreciate what.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
They have for around them.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
That's really what because they they're also maybe that removes
a little bit of like the insecurity obstacles that you
usually have to overcome to achieve stuff. Yes, and that
you just like you just have a more positive mindset
and it's more about a law action.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Birds, Yeah, feather, it's it's it's the same thing with
the people you surround yourself, even as adults, Like if
you're surrounding yourself with people are like, oh it's beautiful today,
Like look do you see those flowers? Those are incredible?
How bright they're the ones right outside the door. You know,
I suppose to someone who's like my life this day.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
My favorite study is the one that said my grandparents'
generation was happier than all of us because their bar
for happiness was so low.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yes, they expect keep the bar low. Justin will continue.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
It's like the kids.
Speaker 10 (26:52):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 12 (27:00):
Justine works joined us and we're talking about parenting issues,
and so new research talks about the importance of reading.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
I have a feeling when I read this, I was
gobspec like, I was like, what the hell?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
And I have a feeling.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
You guys are like, oh, no, that's important.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
No, nothing, But fifty of us adults read below a
sixth grade level.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Not surprised, really surprised. You've been to Target, Yeah, but.
Speaker 13 (27:33):
Watch your mouth about Target. I just dealing with people, Yeah, exactly.
And I also think that reading reading ability can regress.
I mean you get out of the practice, just like handwriting, right,
your handwriting now is nowhere what it was, nowhere near
(27:54):
what it was like probably when you were junior senior
in high school because you were constantly writing. I don't
write things down, I mean chicken scratch numbers here and there.
I don't write things down every day. I'll go days
without using a pen or a pencil.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I've always had third grade level handwriting.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Unfortunately, Really write me something right, I like, well, you're.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Right with the wrong hand. Is that the problem? It
gets even worse.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Wow, they didn't beat that out. Uh huh, you're my age.
There were no left handing. That's perfectly you do right
like you're right handed, though, oh I do.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I don't know. I just always like people.
Speaker 8 (28:33):
When I signed my niece's like certificate because I like
a left hander, I officiated her wedding and like both
her and her now husband were like, whoa dude?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Like when it was just writing my name, I didn't
realize you had palsy exactly. You should have been a doctor.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
But look at how lame that is.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
When I write with my left hand would be legible.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
That's a joke.
Speaker 8 (28:56):
I can't turn hers off for a second. Good for you,
you found my limit. Evidently, I didn't even know I
had one. The other part, so my kids, I've seen
them like read aloud. They mess up words constantly, which
drives me up a wall. I was never like, I
imagine both of you enjoyed reading. I know Shannon does
(29:17):
a lot. I have never been a person who enjoyed reading.
I like listening to like business books, like audio books.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
I like that. I'm I will read a book if
I like it.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
I read like Ready Player one and the Harry Potter
book said there was stuff like that, but sixth grade
level exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
That's what I'm saying is and I've been I'm the
guy who's shocked.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
When you say your kids mix up words?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
What do you mean?
Speaker 8 (29:37):
They say it like they'll say something like, uh, I
can't even give the example because it's such a poor grammar,
Like I just feel like I'm constantly.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Going it's us.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I don't know, it's magnification, like I would say mess up,
could care less versus no, No, we're.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Not even at that high level.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
And it's like blatantly like I don't think the words
you just put together, they're like I understood you on
this show.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I understood that every day people lose their freaking minds.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
No we're not there, then they should.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
Definitely, we could desensitize these people by having them have
dinner with my family, okay, because it's me constantly going, no,
it's this word, and my jack loves to drive me
a ball.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
He goes same difference. I'm like, no, no, it's not
the same difference that you can't. If it was, then
I would understand. I go, I can't send you into
a job interview using words like this that is not
too screw it. Oh yes, I know. That's the one
time that I know I'm being the victim of it.
Still can't stop, it can't stop.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
It's it's how he communicates, Like communication is very important.
The other part that shocked me about this is like
how much it's directly correlated to like earnings. People will
read at a sixth grade level on average in US
make sixty three thousand dollars a year. If you're at
a fifth grade level, dips all the way down to
forty eight. And I was like, wow, like especially, I mean,
I guess today we're all on computers.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
But just pick of books, I guess. But it's pick.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
It's not just the book, it's the kind of book.
It's the style of book. It's the language of the book.
And I think of different writing styles. The most outlandish
writing style that I can think of that of a
book that I enjoyed was The Road by Cormick McCarthy
because there, I mean, he was missing punctuation in that book,
(31:22):
but it was so I mean, you got to know
the rules to break the rules. So clearly he knows
how to use punctuation, but he didn't in this book.
That to me, is a well above a sixth grade
level book because of that kind of knowledge.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Not just the big words, not just.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
The the technical aspects potentially of a book that you're reading,
but the way the language is used is probably the
best indicator of the level of book. You don't get
that anywhere. I mean even you know, you could read
the New York Times online or in print, whatever you
(32:00):
want to do. It's not written. You know, you're always
taught in journalisms the newspaper writings. It's not written that way.
It's written to be consumed by the I wouldn't say
the lowest common denominator, but a pretty low common denominator.
And there's no challenge after you get past sixth grade.
You read science books, biology or something like that in
(32:22):
high school, but after that there's no more. There's no
challenge unless you bring it upon yourself where you work
in an industry where that's going to be a required reading.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
It's just not out there.
Speaker 8 (32:31):
And I also always wonder, like Chicken or the egg, like,
are people who naturally inclined to read are just gonna
also they're just going to naturally want to improve, right
like Schmuck's like me, Like I like to improve in business.
Like that's interesting to me. But I very rarely will
read a piece of fiction or something like that. It's
not my jam. I don't like it. I would much
rather watch the movie an somebody else figure out all
(32:51):
the visuals for it.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
Yeah, I paint the picture for me and I break
it down like what a flip book?
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Very male. We will talk trenday.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Only time I've been called that only time. It is
the only time I've done that.
Speaker 13 (33:07):
About you just getting good not a good right there
it all.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
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on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Texted one of my
Padres friends this morning, how those say? How those Padres doing?
They don't The Padres fans do not like s talking.
No response, there's no. They're not good at it. They're
(00:23):
not good at it. They beat the Giants, Yeah, but
they're still in third place.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Uh, you'd have to check that, but yeah, I think
they are behind them. Listen, Padres fans, I mean they're
they're good. They're when they're right and high, they're they're
a love delightful people, lovely people. But when they're losing, man,
and I'm listen, I can't.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Take the heat. Get out of the NLS.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
As a Giants fan, it's hard to exist in southern
California because all you're surrounded by Dodgers fans. And but
there's that good friendly teta tet, if you will, the
friendly given.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Tet, the old ballpark, the fun testing of each other's.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Jibes against each o, the jibes.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
A gentlemanly sport.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Ah, Man, you tangle some of those Padres fans from
there in third place.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
You don't mess a out with those people.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
I can only imagine how said Jeff olrich Is over
that one hundred thousand dollars. I remember how said my
dad was when I called a nine hundred number once
and it was like five bucks, right, it was like
thirty years ago, and I still never.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Heard the Yeah, my dad would get mad if I
stayed on too long with my grandma, his mother because
of the long distance charge. You know what I mean, Like,
dads don't play when it comes to money. Even if
you had a career in the NFL and you have
a bunch of money. And I don't know how much
Jeff Olbrick made, but he had a pretty substantial career
from what I remember, didn't make the nearly the money
(01:46):
they make now. But I mean, dads do not play
when it comes to money. Like it could be five dollars,
it could be wasting. It's the wasting of the money.
And this is an enormous waste of one hundred thousand dollars.
This isn't your kid wanted to go to Duke and
you paid a bunch of money and you paid tuition.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Then the kids like I'm not into it.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Years ago puppetry degree. Yeah, and then you just got
to eat it like that's that's different.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
This is an enormous waste of a hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Where do those fines generally go? Do they go to
like NFL Foundation or something?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
It doesn't matter, I know, I'm just curious the dynamic duo.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I really think you guys should market that T shirt
that's saying.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
You have an acceptable face.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I like it, you guys an acceptable face.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I gotta say that just is not for a throwaway comment.
That is not going away anytime.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Soon, is it? It's time for swamp. I got a
politician that one. Yeah, that's all right. You're going to
confuse el Murphy. I mean, that's all right. Politicians. We
did a different time yesterday. And when I'm not kissing beat,
I'm stealing that we.
Speaker 7 (03:07):
Got the real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
So what I'm not going anywhere? So that now you train.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
The swat, I can imagine what can be and be
unburdened by what has been, you know, have.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Always been gone a president, they're not stupid.
Speaker 8 (03:26):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Have the people voted for you were not swap watch
they're all counting on.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Okay, okay, well, what were you going to say? It's
not real important. Trump's cabinet. He had a cabinet meeting
today at the White House. Uh, They're doing this on
a very regular basis. He starts with comments.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Today's comments had to do with the GDP numbers that
came out this morning for GDP.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
And this is you know, you probably saw some numbers today,
and I have to start off, I say, that's Biden.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
That's not because we came in on January. Just a
quarterly numbers.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Now, what he does is he's saying that when you
take out some of the extraneous numbers, the economy still
has some strength to it. Peter Navarro, the Trade advisor,
also put quite the spin on it this morning.
Speaker 9 (04:17):
This was the best negative print, as they say in
the Trade for GDP, I have ever seen in my life.
It really should be very positive news for America.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Okay, I don't know about that, but it is the
three tenths of a percent drop in GDP for the
first quarter of the year. Trump blamed it on Biden.
And said as much in a truth social post. It
was one of the issues that came up last night,
very long one hundred day interview, with a very long
(04:51):
interview to mark one hundred days in office. He did
it with ABC News as Terry Moran, did you hear
the line?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
He said?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
As to he, Trump apparently got to choose who did
the interview. That was part of the deal that they struck, okay,
and he said he chose Terry Moran and not David
Muir or George Stephanopolis because he had never heard of him.
He had never heard of Terry Moran, which was a
of course, it was a dig. Of of course, it
(05:20):
was quite the line. But anyway, Terry Moran had asked him,
things are not going well economically, at least, you know,
tariff wise. Stock markets are down, people are losing money
in their four oh one k's. We're not seeing the relief,
the general price relief that we were expecting, although egg
prices have gone down, gas prices have gone down and
(05:42):
things like that. So Terry Moran asked him, did people
sign up for this when they voted for you?
Speaker 7 (05:48):
Well, they did sign up for it, actually, And this
is what I campaigned on I said that we've been
abused by other countries at levels that nobody's ever seen before.
I could have left it that way, and at some
point that would have been an implosion like nobody's ever seen,
but I said no, we have to fix it.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Also on Capitol Hill today, the Senate Commerce Committee has
appeared poised to advance that bill to make daylight saving
time permanent. It seems lawmakers are coalescing around the idea
of ending the practice of changing the clocks twice a year.
(06:27):
The panel is deeply divided over whether to embrace permanent
daylight saving time or standard time.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
However, they don't.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
So they're in agreement to some.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Degree to stop f and with the clocks just pick
a time, but they can't decide on the time. Ted
Cruz is a committee chair. He said, there are times
when you have a hearing on a bill and you're
trying to move forward with a bill and you think
there's a clear right answer. This is not one of
those times, at least for me.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
He says.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
The testimony we're heard at the beginning persuaded me that
we should lock the clock. The practice of springing forward
and falling backward every year. Doesn't make sense. He went
on to vote to advance the legislation. This is from
Rick Scott, which would move to make daylight saving time
the default. That would result in the more daylight in
(07:17):
the evening hours with less in the morning.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
It would stay.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Well, you get into late mid late December and you're
driving to work at eight in the morning and it's
still dark, that'd be weird. Not eight, yeah, yeah, yeah,
pretty close. D eight o'clock it would still be dark.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
No, yes, maybe seven. We did the math on this before.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
It's still dark at seven when you drive now, and
it's not Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
No, it's not.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
It's light.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
It is light when I'm in my ballet zoom class
at sixteen twenty right now.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yes, I'm talking about December. December.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
In December, when you're driving to work at seven in
the morning, it's still dark outside.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Not eight though. But if we change the clock.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
I'm not going to die on this hill. It's not like.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Old But here's what's funny. Here's not funny.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
The State Commerce Committee to me, this.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Is like I don't I could care just choose, I
don't care.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
To choose, and then let's stopping with the clock. It's
one one.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
They both come with their benefits and their and their detractions.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I'm angry that there's that much of an argument. Angry.
I am also out of Washington, d c.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
They Supreme Court today was hearing arguments on a bid
to create the nation's first tax payer funded religious charter school.
All right, this one is down in Oklahoma. Some unusual
things about it. In that Justice Amy Cony Barrett has
recused herself apparent least she's very close friends with somebody
who wants to represent Saint Isidore of Seville Catholic Virtual School.
(08:56):
Chief Justice round John Roberts is considered to be going
to be this wing vote because with the three traditionally
liberal justices and now the five conservative justices. At the
onset of the argument, he was questioning some of the
positions that were advanced by the Catholic School, but by
(09:17):
the time the two hour argument concluded, he seemed a
little bit more open to siding with the school. So
we'll see exactly how that plays out. But one of
those big Supreme Court cases that's going to get a
lot of attention when it's decided later in the spring.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Coming up next the Netflix CEO says movie theaters are outdated. Well, no,
s Do they have a plan on how to move
them into the future or are we just going to
get rid of them.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
We'll talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
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You just pitched the top of the first inning and
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That is first time pitching.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
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Speaker 1 (11:00):
Ted Sarandos is the Netflix CEO, and he did an
interview recently. It started with this question, have you sorry?
Have you destroyed Hollywood?
Speaker 11 (11:13):
Things do not look so good in the entertainment industry.
The box office is down, the LA film business is shaky,
people are out of work. Your competitor's market share is sinking.
But Netflix business is thriving. Have you destroyed Hollywood?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Now we're saving Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
You're saving Hollywood. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Look, what's the big difference of everything you just listed
there is that Netflix is a very consumer focused company.
We really do care that we deliver the program into
you in a way you want to watch it, that
it's programming that you love and desire, So we don't
let you know, a lot of other outside forces get
in the way of that. So an example, I think
is that you mentioned the box office being down, just
(11:54):
by way of example, what does that say. What is
the consumer trying to tell us that they'd like to
watch movies at home, thank you? And the studios and
the theaters are duking it out over trying to preserve
this forty five day window that is completely out of
step with the consumer experience of just living a movie.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
He makes some great points there.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
The idea of this forty five day window, by the way,
is that theater owners want to keep exclusivity. They want
to be able to say that first run movies are
only available in movie theaters for the first forty five days,
and even then. The way it's working now is the
movie can have that exclusivity, or the theaters can have
that exclusivity. But then once it goes to streaming, you
(12:34):
can get relatively recent movies if you're willing to pay
nineteen bucks for him. In some cases you wait a
little bit longer the priceper is down.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Going to the movie and sitting with the crooks, Yeah,
the crooks.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
I just assume everyone's a crook.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
What I met the crowds and it gave out crooks.
I don't know why, But sitting with a Brooks on
the I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Why said that.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Sitting with the crowds and their noises and their bodiliest situations.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
You know, I'm not a fan.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
And that's one thing that did not make a comeback
from you post pandemic. I used to love going to
the theater, movie theater, and I just cannot watch a
movie with strangers.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
And I worked in a movie theater for a couple
of summers and it was the greatest time.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, it never took away.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
You know, sometimes people, if you get a little too
close to something that mad joy, then you start to
see how bad. I never lost it. I always loved
about that with football. I love the smell of the
popcorn and the stickiness of the floor.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
There was always something about it.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
And part of the part of the allure was you
could never even come close to mimicking that experience at home. Yeah,
and now you can. I mean now you can get
a TV that's too big for your wall, and you
can get a sound system that and you can.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Get the popcorn in the M and M.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I need get the popcorn. You get it all. You
can get the whole thing, and the probably the biggest one.
I don't think there's one. Oh right here, the pause button.
You can pee and you don't have to race to
the pisser.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Yeah, say that, and you can answer the door or
the phone.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, if you choose all sorts of things. You can
get ice cream. How did you know that that you
go and get ice cream? It's not and it was
because what's better than a movie at home with ice cream?
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Ice cream?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
He did say that there are limited theatrical releases. Again,
this is Ted Sarandos, the CEO at at Netflix. One
of the things because they are not just a they're
not just a clearing house for movies, they're a producer
as well. Is they have produced movies that then go
(14:51):
into the movie theaters. First Knives Out, Glass Onion Emilia
Perez was a Netflix movie that started in the theaters
and then made its way to the street service. And
he referred to some of the rules for the Academy
Awards are that you have to have at least some
movie theater exposure before that show would be eligible for awards,
(15:15):
and that was one of the things that he has
talked to. But he said one of the things that
he encourages each of the directors that work with Netflix
now is give the audience what they want. If it
is a big action movie that they want to go
see in a theater, yeah, let's open it in a
movie theater.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Let's make it a theatrical release.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
But if it's something that's a little quieter, a little slower,
maybe a little more dramatic that you don't need a
giant screen for, throw it on Netflix and make it
available to everybody.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Amen. Brother, you say that again. Amen, brother, say you
with your chest? Amen? Brother? All right?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Justin Wisham's coming up next. How did it get to
be eleven thirty? Where did the day go?
Speaker 3 (15:54):
I do not know.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I mean, we were talking about escape kangaroos and the laws.
We learned that we can and have a kangaroo without
a permit in South Carolina. Other than that, I don't
remember what else we've talked about today.
Speaker 10 (16:07):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Don't forget to let us know what you are watching.
It is a what you watch on Wednesday. We have
been into what I've been into Friends and Neighbors with
John ham Hacks Season four, I'm trying to get into
that ballet Amazon Prime show at twelve. There's moments where
(16:34):
I love it and there's moments where I'm like, eh,
so I'm trying to see if it's one.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Of those just wait till episode four situations.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
And it's a whole series. I thought it was a movie.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
This is a series.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
I thought I was going to leave my wife for
one night and let her get it out of her system, and.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Now it's she she's not impressed by it. Yeah, I
haven't been either. I mean, there's parts of it that
I'm like, that's well done. There's actual ballet dancers, actual
dancing going on, which is odd. It's usually they kind
of fake their way through that if it's going to
be a show about dancing.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
But that's my favorite.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Thing whenever there's dancing, and I always ask my wife,
I'm like, are they really good?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Ever?
Speaker 10 (17:07):
Good?
Speaker 5 (17:08):
And these ones are really good.
Speaker 8 (17:10):
She's got she's more of a hip hop dancer pretending
to be a ballerinas like.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Save the Last Man?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
All right, nailed it. Justin Morsham has joined us takes. Yeah,
we talked with you.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Don't get me started on center stage because that's a
whole other thing.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Justin is probably the most popular multi hyphen it here.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
It's how does that work?
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Well?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
We talk about parenting on Wednesdays and on Sundays you
roll in and talk about real estate.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
These are renaissance to talk about adulting.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Uh, let's talk about successful kids that working on one
key emotion.
Speaker 8 (17:50):
And this was I gotta be honest, I was taken
aback by this that the key emotion for your kids
to grow up successful is awe.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
And I if I'm reading.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
This correctly based on the information of the study, is
that the parents need to be in awe of their children.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
What.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, I thought it was going to be keep the
awe in your kids as long as possible, so where
your kids are like, oh, that's wonderful or that's great,
or that's beautiful or that's cool or you know, so
your kids aren't jaded quicker than they should be.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
And that could because there's other parts of it where
they allude to the fact that the parents who were
also experiencing awe. So what my general takeaway from it
was is that if your bar is very low, then
you tend to be happier in general and maybe more successful.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I think parents should be in awe of their kids.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Don't give it the kids. The power, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I mean, don't get me wrong, My kids have there.
Speaker 8 (18:42):
Each of them have had two moments or one each
where I was genuinely, insincerely in awe of what they
decided to do. So I was proud of them that
the proud pride is the second in this study. So
you the number one emotion for the predictor of success
is awe, and pride is number two, which I thought
was all.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
When I think of in awe of something, I think like.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Delighted or surprised by the magnitude.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
They did the thing, and I'll try and pull it
up here. They did the thing of they gave you like.
The Webster's Dictionary defines all as and uh and a
different one the Merriam Webster Dictionary. An emotion variously combining dread, veneration,
and wonder that is inspired by authority or by the
sacred or sublime.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Now hit the second one if you don't mind a
strong now this one from dictionary dot com. An overwhelming
feeling of reverence, admiration, fear, et cetera, produced by what
produced by that which is grand, sublime, extremely powerful or
the light.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Something that should be revered is not your child. Yeah,
and that's what.
Speaker 8 (19:40):
So again, this just kind of threw me off my
balance because I'm like, am I supposed to be admire
And there's a lot again, there's a lot of ways
that I genuinely, sincerely do admire my kids. But I
don't know, I don't know that you know, like to
me the equivalent of like, you know, who rescued who?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Well amazed if this kid does something kind or de know, wonderful,
you can.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Can you imagine being a base because your kid does
something kind? So true, but my kids are selfish, little being.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
Kids made me dinner last night while I was on
like a zoom meeting. And that's really like he was
sick or he was inhabited by an alien.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I'm like, you're doing that.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
That is when awe comes in conversation.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
So along those lines, when when you say awe, I
think of the context of like, this is the most
beautiful sunset I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I can't wrap my head around what is going on
right now.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
If you if you are in awe of your kids,
maybe it's not because of what they've done, but you're like,
I can't believe that two human beings can get together
and create another human being.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I'm in awe of that person, and.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
You're in awe of yourself, not the kid.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
It did say.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
The author of the article said, when I read things
like this, it reminds me, if I needed it to,
that being a parent really is an almost comprehensible gift,
which I do not feel that being a parent is
an incomprehensive gift.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
It sounds like I feel like it's a.
Speaker 8 (21:06):
Job that I signed up for that I didn't know
what I was getting into.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
But I do enjoy like that's how I like from
time to time. That's a better way to say, I
enjoy it from time to time. I do not find
joy in it every day. I don't. I probably am
through big swaths of it. I didn't.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
I could say I did not find enjoyment from it
most of the time. Right there, it's fleeting moments of joy,
and I have enjoyed.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
It moment it's worth it.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
They do that, But again, I don't know if this
is like an evolutionary thing that we've just had, Like
it has to be ingrained in us that we have
to psychologically think that because he smiles after he farts
when he's.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Kept me up all night, but that makes it all
worth it. Maybe it is, but it's still there's a.
Speaker 8 (21:44):
Little bit of, like I don't know, sociopathic aspects to it,
that you have to like trick yourself into finding the
fun and being beat on and vomited on.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
That's fine, it's true.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I mean, parents do make allowances for their kids a lot.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
And then they get older and all they do is not.
Speaker 8 (21:59):
Appreciate you and become generally annoyed by you and don't
want you around. Like so, I'm just when I see this,
it's a thing that's very conflicting for me because obviously
I come to here, I cry about my kids.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I love them dearly.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
I could not imagine my life being any different than
what it is, but I did not. I do not
think I would use awe to describe how I feel
a good chunk of the time. And maybe we'll see,
maybe my kids will be less successful because of it.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
No, that is not true, you know, because.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Listen, you're a successful guy. I thank you. Clearly I
have hyphens.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Your dad would not be in awe of you. No,
and if he was, he would never admit it. Which
is a funny thing because I feel like this is
the push towards telling your kids that you're in awe
of them, and that I think puts a very that's
a bad move.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
That's awful. It's so stupid. I think it's really stupid.
I feel like the thing that I've strived for is
to hear that my parents are proud of me.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
That's like the number one thing.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
And I think, and.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
It's never changed throughout my entire life, like that's what
I want.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
You want that?
Speaker 8 (23:05):
And there's this weird I think high wire tuggle war
whatever where it's like because if they give the pride
too fast and easy, then it's like it doesn't feel earned.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
They've got to pay attention to.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
You for thirty five years.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Exactly right, like you can't. But isn't it funny how
we all we all have these similar vibes like I
have this one, and you should want that as a kid.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
You should want to make your parent proud and your
parents should want to be proud of you.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
You know all of these things.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
The awe thing is just like give me that's a
little too new parent age foo food to me be
in awe of your check coming back.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
This right here is my biggest feared anxiety I've always
had as a parent is that I've always felt exactly
like we're all saying we feel yeah, but I'm like,
what if everybody else who is blowing that much sunshine
up their kids a that like that's they're actually the one.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I have a lot of friends, most of my friends
have kids, and that that is never a conversation I
was in of my daughter and like, that's not a thing.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I've never heard somebody keep that much praise on that.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
But let me go back to what I said earlier,
when I said that when you think of awe, of
being in awe of something this bigger than you, I'm
in awe of the skyscraper that I would never be
able to design or build or anything.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
If you.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Display that, if you show that to your kids, not
directed towards them, but you show them that you are
still capable of being impressed by something that I think
is a good quality today exactly because then that gives
that gives the kid the ability to not be a
giant jade, like you said earlier, a jaded a hole
through the rest of their life.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
One of my least favorite things when a child is
not impressed by something.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, I agree. I mean they should all be impressed
by you. No no, no, no, not me.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I mean by you know, even if it's just like
a meal out or they got for Christmas.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Like, they can't wrap their head around the fact they
don't deserve it. You gave it to them because you
you love them, right whatever, right, But they don't get
the awe that should be involved with Yeah, you spent
how much money on a game system that's gonna eat
my brain out?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, I love it, Thank you. Yeah, I'm at all
of you. I'm in awe of that. I mean that
I pulled a fast one on.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I will get the you know, text messages from friends
like can you believe they're you know, thirteen and fifteen?
Can you believe I made these kids? You know what
I mean kind of thing, and and.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
That I get the awe there of like you.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Know, like we were talking about, I can see that like,
oh my god, I did this, we did this, We've
all done this, the family has done this. Look at them.
They're they're grown up and they're not broken.
Speaker 8 (25:37):
So here's one last bit of perspective is that it
also says there was a twenty twenty study that found
that if you spent fifteen minutes in a walk out
in nature where the things you were seeing were things
that you would be considered to be in awe of,
you were significantly more likely to feel pro social emotions.
So what if like, let's just say the parent is
(25:58):
very easily find finds themselves in a state of awe
and that somehow begets this perspective for the kid because
they're modeling it to also just appreciate what.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
They have for around them.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
That's really what because they they're also maybe that removes
a little bit of like the insecurity obstacles that you
usually have to overcome to achieve stuff. Yes, and that
you just like you just have a more positive mindset
and it's more about a law action.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Birds, Yeah, feather, it's it's it's the same thing with
the people you surround yourself, even as adults, Like if
you're surrounding yourself with people are like, oh it's beautiful today,
Like look do you see those flowers? Those are incredible?
How bright they're the ones right outside the door. You know,
I suppose to someone who's like my life this day.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
My favorite study is the one that said my grandparents'
generation was happier than all of us because their bar
for happiness was so low.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yes, they expect keep the bar low. Justin will continue.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
It's like the kids.
Speaker 10 (26:52):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 12 (27:00):
Justine works joined us and we're talking about parenting issues,
and so new research talks about the importance of reading.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
I have a feeling when I read this, I was
gobspec like, I was like, what the hell?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
And I have a feeling.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
You guys are like, oh, no, that's important.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
No, nothing, But fifty of us adults read below a
sixth grade level.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Not surprised, really surprised. You've been to Target, Yeah, but.
Speaker 13 (27:33):
Watch your mouth about Target. I just dealing with people, Yeah, exactly.
And I also think that reading reading ability can regress.
I mean you get out of the practice, just like handwriting, right,
your handwriting now is nowhere what it was, nowhere near
(27:54):
what it was like probably when you were junior senior
in high school because you were constantly writing. I don't
write things down, I mean chicken scratch numbers here and there.
I don't write things down every day. I'll go days
without using a pen or a pencil.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I've always had third grade level handwriting.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Unfortunately, Really write me something right, I like, well, you're.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Right with the wrong hand. Is that the problem? It
gets even worse.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Wow, they didn't beat that out. Uh huh, you're my age.
There were no left handing. That's perfectly you do right
like you're right handed, though, oh I do.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I don't know. I just always like people.
Speaker 8 (28:33):
When I signed my niece's like certificate because I like
a left hander, I officiated her wedding and like both
her and her now husband were like, whoa dude?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Like when it was just writing my name, I didn't
realize you had palsy exactly. You should have been a doctor.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
But look at how lame that is.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
When I write with my left hand would be legible.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
That's a joke.
Speaker 8 (28:56):
I can't turn hers off for a second. Good for you,
you found my limit. Evidently, I didn't even know I
had one. The other part, so my kids, I've seen
them like read aloud. They mess up words constantly, which
drives me up a wall. I was never like, I
imagine both of you enjoyed reading. I know Shannon does
(29:17):
a lot. I have never been a person who enjoyed reading.
I like listening to like business books, like audio books.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
I like that. I'm I will read a book if
I like it.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
I read like Ready Player one and the Harry Potter
book said there was stuff like that, but sixth grade
level exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
That's what I'm saying is and I've been I'm the
guy who's shocked.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
When you say your kids mix up words?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
What do you mean?
Speaker 8 (29:37):
They say it like they'll say something like, uh, I
can't even give the example because it's such a poor grammar,
Like I just feel like I'm constantly.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Going it's us.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I don't know, it's magnification, like I would say mess up,
could care less versus no, No, we're.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Not even at that high level.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
And it's like blatantly like I don't think the words
you just put together, they're like I understood you on
this show.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I understood that every day people lose their freaking minds.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
No we're not there, then they should.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
Definitely, we could desensitize these people by having them have
dinner with my family, okay, because it's me constantly going, no,
it's this word, and my jack loves to drive me
a ball.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
He goes same difference. I'm like, no, no, it's not
the same difference that you can't. If it was, then
I would understand. I go, I can't send you into
a job interview using words like this that is not
too screw it. Oh yes, I know. That's the one
time that I know I'm being the victim of it.
Still can't stop, it can't stop.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
It's it's how he communicates, Like communication is very important.
The other part that shocked me about this is like
how much it's directly correlated to like earnings. People will
read at a sixth grade level on average in US
make sixty three thousand dollars a year. If you're at
a fifth grade level, dips all the way down to
forty eight. And I was like, wow, like especially, I mean,
I guess today we're all on computers.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
But just pick of books, I guess. But it's pick.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
It's not just the book, it's the kind of book.
It's the style of book. It's the language of the book.
And I think of different writing styles. The most outlandish
writing style that I can think of that of a
book that I enjoyed was The Road by Cormick McCarthy
because there, I mean, he was missing punctuation in that book,
(31:22):
but it was so I mean, you got to know
the rules to break the rules. So clearly he knows
how to use punctuation, but he didn't in this book.
That to me, is a well above a sixth grade
level book because of that kind of knowledge.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Not just the big words, not just.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
The the technical aspects potentially of a book that you're reading,
but the way the language is used is probably the
best indicator of the level of book. You don't get
that anywhere. I mean even you know, you could read
the New York Times online or in print, whatever you
(32:00):
want to do. It's not written. You know, you're always
taught in journalisms the newspaper writings. It's not written that way.
It's written to be consumed by the I wouldn't say
the lowest common denominator, but a pretty low common denominator.
And there's no challenge after you get past sixth grade.
You read science books, biology or something like that in
(32:22):
high school, but after that there's no more. There's no
challenge unless you bring it upon yourself where you work
in an industry where that's going to be a required reading.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
It's just not out there.
Speaker 8 (32:31):
And I also always wonder, like Chicken or the egg, like,
are people who naturally inclined to read are just gonna
also they're just going to naturally want to improve, right
like Schmuck's like me, Like I like to improve in business.
Like that's interesting to me. But I very rarely will
read a piece of fiction or something like that. It's
not my jam. I don't like it. I would much
rather watch the movie an somebody else figure out all
(32:51):
the visuals for it.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
Yeah, I paint the picture for me and I break
it down like what a flip book?
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Very male. We will talk trenday.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Only time I've been called that only time. It is
the only time I've done that.
Speaker 13 (33:07):
About you just getting good not a good right there
it all.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
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