January 5, 2026 • 37 mins
#SwampWatch kicks off with the latest twists in Venezuela, including Nicolás Maduro and his wife pleading not guilty in New York, Marco Rubio’s deep involvement in the fallout, and NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani weighing in after calling President Trump to voice his objections. The conversation pivots to food politics, as Gary and Shannon break down the ultra-processed food industry versus the “Make America Healthy Again” movement — and why reform may be harder than it sounds. Plus, are Americans really falling out of love with pizza? The hosts unpack why rising prices may be killing the romance. And to close it out: Gary’s birthday continues, Shannon proposes freezing your age forever, and the mystery deepens: where is everyone in the office as return-to-office struggles drag on?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hey reminder, Wednesday night, we're going to be airing a
KFI News special LA Fires one year later. Michael Monks
is going to host. It's going to include reports from
the different KFI News team discussing the fires of course
from last year, their aftermath, they're lasting impact, and how
Southern California is doing on the road to recovery again.
That's going to be day after tomorrow. That's Wednesday night,
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seven PMS.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
When that starts, well, we had a court appearance today
for Nicholas Maduro there in New York before a ninety
two year old judge and Marco Rubio seems to be
the orchestrator of this entire international circus.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
That's where we kick off swamp Watch.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar.
And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm still in their lollipops. Yeah,
we got.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
The real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
The other side never quit, so what I'm not going anywhere?
Speaker 5 (01:04):
So that is how you train the squad.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
What has been.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
You know, Americans have always been going act president. They're
not stupid.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Why have the people voting for you with na swap watch?
They're all counter on.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Nicholas Maduro and his wife pleaded not guilty today in
federal court in Manhattan to drug trafficking charges. The judge
asking Nicholas Maduro to clarify his identity, state his name,
and Maduro went on a rant, telling the judge he
had been kidnapped from his home. I am the president
of the Republic of Venezuela, he said, and I am
here kidnaps since January third, Saturday. I was captured in
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my home in Caracas, Venezuela. The judge, ninety two years old, interrupts,
telling him we'll discuss the legal sufficiency of what was
done at a later date. He went on, Maduro, did
I am a kidnapp president, prisoner of war? They've been
charged he and the wife with conspiracy to import cocaine,
possession of machine guns destructive devices. Additionally charged with narco terrorism, conspiracy,
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such a strong.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Such a fairy tale, Carlen Wiz the judge you mentioned
this as ninety two year old Judge Alvin Hellerstein is
based there in Manhattan. He was the one who oversaw
the arraignment today and probably can preside over any trial, that.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Is, if he lasts. I mean, he's ninety two years old.
Let's get be honest.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
He One former federal prosecutor describing the judge said, he
tries very hard to do the right thing. He just
has his own sense of what that is. Another one
said he's just an old and old school or he's
just old and old school and does things his own
way and doesn't give an ss about what anyone thinks
about him.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
He does have a history with this administration. He's ruled
against President Trump or his administration in other high profile cases,
including the charges involved the hush money to Stormy Daniels,
WHOA that's a blast from the past. He twice rejected
Trump's bids to move that case to federal court. He
also issued a sweeping order lass may blocking the administration
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from deporting immigrants under the Alien Enemies Act with little
due process.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
They describe him as being aggressive about managing the conduct
of attorneys in his courtroom, maybe even micromanaging. They said
that he insists on attorneys making maintaining a brisk pace,
and he gets impatient a lot of times with testimony.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
He likes to move things along.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Again, he's ninety two, very conscious of a jury becoming bored,
if that's the case. But most of the lawyers Politico talk,
reach out and talk to a bunch of lawyers who
have tried cases in front of this judge, and they said, listen,
he may be ninety two.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
This guy knows what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
He has very fit in terms of his ability to
try a case like this, very high profile. Some had
said he has a pretty long, exhibited independent bordering on
stubbornness characteristics about him. So no questions necessarily about his
abilities according to the other attorneys again that have been
in his courtroom.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
But Marco Rubio has an axe to grind, and it
goes back to his parents being from Cuba and Venezuela
asserting control. You stop me if I'm wrong, because I'm
way out of pocket here. But Venezuela kind of running
things in Cuba and ruining that vice versa, vice versus
Cuba running things in Venezuela.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
He said.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
He said in that news conference on Saturday that a
lot of the Venezuelan intelligence agencies are overrun with Cuban exiles,
and that Cuba was using Venezuela as sort of a
puppet state for its own benefit. And obviously he is
the son of Cuban exiles. He has built his political
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eye identity on that. And this they're saying, this operation,
if you want to call it, that in Venezuela really
marks the end of or the climax of his lifelong
ambition to restore democracy to that part of the world.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, but I mean, isn't Cuba next.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Speak could be heat And in fact, that's the other
thing he said was if I was in government in
Havana right now, I'd be concerned.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
I'd be worried.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Twenty fourteen, when he was a senator from Florida, he
took to the Flora the Senate to scold the administration
at the time, Obama administration, because they said it was
shameful to sanction the leader of Venezuela, Maduro and not
go after him and try to depose him, that it
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wasn't enough that the United States should be using its
power more strategically to get Maduro out. In twenty seventeen,
Venezuela's security chief supposedly took a hit out on Marco
Rubio after that. Because of this, and because of his
long time, I don't know if saber rattling is the
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right term in this case, because he was just the
guy pointing and bringing attention to what was going on
in Venezuela.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
But his.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Family DNA of you know, Cuban exiles, is partly what
drives him in this right.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So his parents left Cuba in fifty six years before
Fidel Castro's revolution in fifty nine, went for the American
dream right there in Miami. The familiar story. Now, they
were going to go back to Cuba in the sixties,
I think at one point, but that when that country
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moved towards communism, the door was closed on that as well.
Communism for the comeback man. A lot of talk about
communism with mom, Donnie and all that.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Oh, I have a quote from him. I actually have
a sound lighte from him in his there he took
to a podium. I don't remember exactly if it was
Saturday or yesterday, but Mom Donnie came out and suggested
that he called President Trump and talked to him about this.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Can you imagine what that phone call sounded like.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
I called the President and spoke with him directly to
register my opposition to this act and to make clear
that it was an opposition based on being opposed to
a pursuit of regime change.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I just imagine in my mind the cartoon is Trump goes, wait,
who is calling?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Yeah, and then he picks up the phone.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
He goes, hey, ze, what's up and then just stops
listening to the phone, and whoever's in the room, he
does the little hand to mouth.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I don't even think the phone or entertains even the
entire sentence of who is on the phone right now?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Right, I don't even know if that call gets through.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Listen, I guess if you're the mayor of New York City.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Is this guy already word salading his life? That sounded
like a word salad.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
That's how he got elected.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, I heard another word slid quote from him about
just made up words like the individualism or something like
just making up things, just throwing prefixes.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
On been mayor for what five days now? And it's
going to be a buckle up, Buckle up, Buckle up
letter cub. All right, when we come back, the Make
America Healthy Again campaign is button up against ultra processed food.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Well, the ultra process foods people are the people that
brought us cigarettes are good for you. I mean really,
the ultra process food geniuses that have made these foods
so addictive are the people that made nicotine and cigarettes
so addictive.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
So they know what they're doing and they know how
to pivot.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
And now they're saying that all of this talk about
ultra process foods being bad is just going to be
a complete failure of a movement because of how expensive
it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
And if affordability is the key word at the end
of twenty five and coming into twenty six.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Then yeah, that's where the failure comes in. We'll talk
about I'm going to order our pizza and come back.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Forty coming up in the next hour if you're looking
for it, and I don't know who is, Because I
thought today was going to be a disaster when it
came to traffic of people coming.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Back to work. Oh yeah, it was everybody.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I don't know? Are people working from home?
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Is?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I thought this would be the Monday that everyone comes back,
and it was just going to be insane to get
to work. So if you need motivational money Monday, we'll
have it perfect. I'm coming up in the next hour.
But where is everybody?
Speaker 4 (09:57):
I don't know? They weren't at work this morning, that's
for certain.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
And usually that's the only indicator there's nobody in our building.
There's no when When does school? When does school get back?
That'll probably next Monday. I think that's probably it. Oh boy,
don't I wonder if I'm going to run into a
bunch of travel ball twelve year olds at the old
batting cages today.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
You should be fine.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
You'll get there before the school's out out.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Eh, well, you'll find out.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
It'll be fine if it's crowded in the middle of
the fun of me, no one's going to make fun
of you. You'll have your own cage, you'll have your
own pitting machine. The only person that's going to make
fun of you is going to be you, And you
make fun of you the worst, my own worst You
are your own worst enemy.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
You mentioned the companies that make stuff like Dorito's and
Oscar Meyer and Kraft mac and cheese, and they're parallels
to tobacco companies. Well, there are a lot of those
food companies that are now owned by the tobacco companies,
and there's such crossover between the two now that what
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we saw sixty seventy years ago in terms of the
selling of tobacco products to people as a way to relax,
and you know, back in the fifties, they were.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
It was a way for you to you know, maybe
not the healthiest digest, to help you digest. That's what
it was.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Ultra Processed foods are just not good for you, period.
And the thing that RFK. Junior has been trying to
do as Secretary of Health and Human Services is bring
that to the forefront so that not only do we
not just you know, kind of knowingly ignore some of
the health risks that come with ultra processed foods, but
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to actually fight against the ultra processed foods and the
companies that create them, that make them are starting to
try to find a new way to fight against it
and not just say things like, oh, of course they're healthy.
They're saying things like, well, if if you force people
to eat the healthier versions of our foods, it's going
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to be more expensive. And everybody's already dealing with the
affordability crisis.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
A recent Politico poll found that Americans across democratic demographic
groups rank cost of living as the country's top problem.
Forty five percent named grocery prices as the most challenging expense.
I've been barking about this for like, it feels like
six years of what is going on in the grocery store.
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I mean, you have had the excuse of the pandemic
and the shortages that led to the higher prices. You
saw the ships all lined up outside of Long Beach.
You saw everything was stuck a higher price. So we
all just dealt with it. The shrink flation and all
that stuff. Well, that was a long time ago. And
I know that once things get more expensive, rarely do
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they get less expensive. They don't go back the other way,
never go back the other way. So now what do
you do to combat that? And if the new regulations
on process foods are just gonna exacerbate that, exacerbate that problem,
then that is going to land right squarely on the
shoulders of Republicans and the administration going into a very
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important year for midterms.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, and how do you, I mean, how do you
convince people that, yes, it's better for you to not
eat the stuff in the middle of the store, It's
better for you to eat the stuff from the farmer's
markets and from the outside of the store, from the
outer walls all that. How do you convince them of
that when they're dealing with just the money crunch and
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the I think the problem for us people our age
is that's kind of how we were raised. That's the
food that we ate for a long time and never
really had, I mean, up until this point, never really
had the knowledge that that was not a great idea.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I mean, I knew.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I knew when I was in high school having a
Pepsi and a Snickers bar for lunch was not great.
But I also had this feeling that, well, I'm sixteen
years old.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
You also kept doing it.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
It's just like cigarettes, you know, they get more addictive
as you eat more. Because we've eaten Nacha cheese Doritos
for so long, You're like, what do you mean that.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
It's not good for me? I have to stopped doing that.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
You know, the damage has been done, and if that's
all you know, then then that's what you're gonna eat.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
It takes a while for you to realize.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
It takes a while not eating nacho cheese doritos to
realize that you don't really like those, you're just.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Addicted to them.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
You stop eating those for a couple of years, you
go back to them, and you're like, no, it doesn't
taste the same. I don't need to have the entire
I'll just have the single serving. I don't need the
entire bag.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Right, Well, it depends on what your idea of a
single serving is.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
But like it takes a long time out of the
game to realize that wasn't the game for you or
for your body. I guess because it is is your
body stops responded like you don't need nacha cheese doritas.
For a couple of years, you go back to it.
Your body's can be like what the heck is this,
and you're like, oh, maybe something is not right with
these now. I use the worst example possible because I've
never had that experience with nacho cheese doritos, but I
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have had that experience with like Taco bell.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Well, I was going to say fast food is also
as a perfect example of that because it is so
first of all, it's easy. What the thing about ultra
processed foods is they're so easy there, you pull them
out of the box, put it in your face. Period.
That's why it's ultra process because they did all of
the work for you, even if keeping that thing, whatever
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it is, shelf stable, keeping it so it looks good
after being produced months and months ago, if not longer,
taste good or taste exciting, whatever it is, all of
the stuff that goes into making those things that are
the things that are bad for you.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Are You're right?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I get a little choked up when I talk about that.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
When you talk about nacho cheese doritos, don't worry. The
pizza should be here in about a half an hour.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Uh, Is that ultra processes?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Count it as ultrue. Yes, it's okay once in a while.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I mean, we haven't had a pizza since like your
last birthday.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Uh, your birthday I think was rightly have been the
last time we did.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, we've cut back on pizza.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
We went through a time when we would get pizza
once every couple months to.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Wash down the rum and coke.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
It was a different time. That was a different time.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
It feels uh, you know, the benefit of the fogginess
of time makes it seem like it was a it
was a happy time.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
We used to do a two hour show and order pizza.
We used to have two of us do a show
from one to three and order a pizza and then
go play ping pong for an hour.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, why were why did they allow us to do that?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Maybe that's what that meeting like.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
That sounds incredibly wasteful.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Whose idea that.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It's Gary's birthday today. It's his birthday. We've got London
and Phoenix in the studio with us. We're taking down
the Christmas tree here.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
So sad tradition.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Does everybody know how to sing Happy birthday? You guys
know how to sing Happy birthday? Can you come over
here and help me out? Can you come over here
and help me out on the radio and we'll all
sing elma, Are you ready to sing?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Ready?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
One?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Gary?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Are you ready for? I'm ready for my birthday?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
One?
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Two? Threeevirthday, Happy Birthday to birthday, sound like, thank you, Well,
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you'll be here.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
We have pizza coming.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Yay, let's see.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Isn't that the best way to celebrate you? And that's sweet?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I like, well, we could play it later, but oh
that yeah, we'll do that.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Than another.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
We're talking about pizza. We got pizza coming for Gary's birthday.
But apparently, according to the Wall Street Journal, America is
falling out of love with pizza.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
What is happening to us now? Again?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I have zero problem eating pizza. I'm very good at
it as a matter of fact. Yeah, but we don't
do it very often. But when we do, I make it.
I make a game of it.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
You.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
You can put down a lot of pizza you could eat.
I would if I put down a large pizza in
front of you, you could probably eat more than half
of it. You have an ability to eat a large
quantity of food at a sitting.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yes, not championship level, but you know high minor leagues.
Well you don't want to waste it right right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
But then you wouldn't eat anything till tomorrow or would
you go along with dinner.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
As No, I'd be like that bola constrictor that ate
a deer. And'd be satisfied for a while.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, I have it in my head that I've got
to eat, you know, dinner, even if I eat a
big lunch, like, I still have it in my head
like I have to eat dinner. I can't just like
have a big lunch and be like, oh, I had
a big lunch and then just not and then just
go quietly into the night.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
I can't do that into the slumber on your couch.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
It's just there's something not right about that.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Pizza used to be the second most common type of
restaurant in the United States.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
It's dropped now to third.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
In fact, coffee shops and Mexican food restaurants outnumber pizza
restaurants in the United States. Sales growth at pizza restaurants
lagging behind the other fast food markets.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Is it because they've gotten more expensive? You know, you
used to get a pizza for five bucks. I'm thinking
about Little Caesar's right five hundred years ago.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
And now it's nine bucks.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I mean, it's not that much more expensive for some
of those, but there are If you go to a
good sit down pizza place, it can be very expensive.
They said that pizza obviously had, you know, pizza huts,
dining in restaurants, the cardboard boxes that were made specifically
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for pizza delivery and things like that.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, they talk about the parent of piology, Pizza Rhea
filing for Chapter eleven bankruptcy.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
But I feel like that was just a fad that
ran its course.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
The essentially flatbread individual pizzas where you go and you know, Blaze, Piloge,
all those ones. There's a couple more in there right
where you go in and you tell them, you know,
it's like Chipotle and they're the counter and they put
on the pizza whatever, and it's like that. But is
that really pizza? You know, there's that argument or is
that just like glorified flatbread that you get to personalize,
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which is fine too, but is it pizza?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Well, pizza used to be the only thing that you
could get delivered.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I mean, is the GLP one thing that is.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Part of it? It's got to be.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I mean, all of the food stories that we've done
in the last year have had some connection to GLP
ones and the interruption of that desire. We talked about
it last week, and we talked about food noise that
over referred to just this constant thinking of food and
where it's coming from and what it's like.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Now.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Granted, I have pizza noise in my head and have
had for the entire weekend because I'm looking forward to
this pizza that's about to grace my pizza hole.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I don't want you to.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Get your hopes up because if something goes wrong with
the delivery.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Funny, what did you say, I said, pizza hole.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Yeah, I'm sorry, Roy, and I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Children should I ask them to a point to know?
So I don't usually have children in the in the room,
I forget, but golp ones in terms of the ability
to interrupt what you think about and how you think
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about food.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, you eat one piece of pizza and then you
know what happens to the rest of it.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Kind of a thing.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Yeah, But the.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Thing with pizza is like, it's good even if and
I've done this, got a large pizza and I'll have
a slice of it, and then it's good in the fridge.
It's good the next day for breakfast, it's good for lunch.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
I mean, you can go back to that pizza.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Several times in the next couple of days.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Staple in my apartments in college. It should be a staple.
I love cold pizza.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Sometimes I prefer it cold, prefer to put it in
the fridge, let it cool down a little bit.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Well, now you're just being a baby about it.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
No, I just like the taste of a cold pizza.
I like the congealed cheese into the meats on the.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Bread less stringy. Yeah, it's easier to eat, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Pizza's dominance when it comes to American restaurant fair is
declining among different cuisines. Pizza ranks sixth in terms of
sales among restaurant chains. That's down from second place during
the nineties. The number of pizza restaurants in the United
States hit a record high six years ago and has
declined since then. The thing is, there's also this knowledge,
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I mean to kind of pick up from what we
were talking about last segment, when it comes to knowledge
about ultra processed foods and people's ability to discern for
themselves is what is healthy and what is not healthy.
Everybody can kind of agree pizza is not very healthy,
but that's not what you eat it for.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
That isn't what you eat it for.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I mean, there are people who will eat cauliflower crust.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
You get pizza on a pizza with your friends or
your family. It's easy, it's easy clean up, easy deliver.
You don't have to worry about what are you gonna cook,
what are you gonna make? Usually everyone kind of likes
some kind of pizza. You can make everyone happy in
a couple of kids. I mean, it's an easy group thing.
And that's what I'm wondering about too. It's a confluence
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of things, right. It's the glp ones, it's the price
of pizza, and it's also when's the last time you
got together with a bunch of friends and just ordered
a couple pizzas Like, aside from us being here, I
haven't done that in a while.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I think that there's fewer.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
It goes back to teenagers getting together the way we
That was like the time of my life when I
eat the most pizza. It was like maybe you know,
eight years old to twenty two, where you just get
together with friends and.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
You always got pizza.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Well, the kids aren't getting together like that as much
anymore because of the phones.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
But that's like I said, pizza used to be the
only thing that was delivered all that side of every
once in a while there were like Chinese restaurants that
would deliver, but that was really the staple food for delivery.
And now anything can be delivered right whatever it is,
you know, thanks to.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
The Chicken wings from Magic City delivered right now. It's
got to take a while, take a day and a half,
but they'll get here.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
They also said as growth in pizza sales stagnates, it's
potentially good for the customer because they get into price
wars Dominoes. I mentioned the nine dollars thing. The Dominoes
has a nine to ninety nine offering for a large
pizza with toppings at Pizza Hut. They said locations. The
sales at locations open at least a year of decline
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for eight straight quarters, and it has hundreds of dining
in restaurants. They're more costly to operate, and they account
for the shrinking slice of where people eat their pizza.
So it's I watched an awful movie over the weekend
that had pizza in it and it looked disgusting.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
What was the movie. It's called Playdate.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
It was with Alan Richson who plays the new Jack
Reacher in that Amazon okay, the Amazon. He's former American
Idol contestant who's just the massive beast of a person.
He and Kevin James, comedian Kevin James.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Okay, and it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I feel like I may have started this and left
it within about ninety seconds.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
And I should have done the same. It looked awful.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I saw a pretty what depressing? Oh you liked it, Elmer?
Speaker 6 (26:28):
I liked it?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Well.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
The reason I convinced my wife to because I know
my wife is a huge fan of physical comedy and
she laughs uncontrollably. She can't stifle a laugh. And your
wife laugh.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
There are a lot of kick in the groin jokes
about that. Did she like it? No, but she laughed.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I have seen, on the other hand, the Tom Segura
late a stand up twice Teachers.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yes, yeah, I haven't seen it. It's so good, good,
it's so much fun that maybe that's my birthday show.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Oh, I recommend And it's only like an hour?
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Yeah? All right? Up? Next, Where is everybody?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Where is everybody? Why isn't everybody at work today? We'll
get into it.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
A M six forty.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
You look bewildered. Are you bewildered? Is that a new
Is that your new birthday face?
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I don't know how to bewilderment.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I don't know how to navigate life as a as
an old person.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
You're not old. Yeah, it's a question.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
You're fine, perfectly acceptable, Thank you, this face perfectly acceptable.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Is there an age you want to stick with as
we move forward?
Speaker 4 (27:52):
R Yeah, that's not laugh too loud, but it's just
a little too deep in that laugh.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I just want to know because I have mine, you know,
you gave me mine, which was what the thirty seven?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Oh I'm sticking.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Well, I remember you when you were thirty seven. Okay,
all right, let's yeah. I remember you when you were.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Go on, uh, thirty two.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, thirty two. You look exactly the same.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Oh that's nice, that's nice.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yeah, so this is so thirty two. You look thinner.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
You're in better shape, probably, am I know? Thinner at least? Yeah,
a better shape. Back then, you were, uh, you're rolling
to breakfast foods. There were a lot of pastries.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I saw you eating a lot of breakfast foods back then,
A lot of doughnuts, a lot of muffins, yeah, bagels, but.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
That's because I was working in the very early.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
When you work on the morning show, you're kind of like,
it's like a lay Miz situation. I've never seen lay Miz,
but I imagine you wake up at two three in
the morning. By about nine a you feel like you
could put down enough food to feed a family of four.
It's just the way it is. For whatever reason, just
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that's the way I was built. When you wake up
early in the morning like that, you are ravenous and
then you take a nap for three hours, and that's
not good. It's a whole lifestyle of just bad, bad decisions,
physical decisions that you have to make when you have
that schedule.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
I'm sure that people who work in the morning shorten
their life.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
They have to just the dietary things alone.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
For the last several years, well, would you say three
four years, there's been this discussion that I never that
my grandfather would have hated, which is the return to work,
a war fight whatever you want to call it, between
people who would rather work from home and those who
would go to the office.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I would the environment say this, we firmly, but we're
on the record everybody knows it that. We think it's
a good idea to go to work, to leave the
house every day, go to work, be around other people,
have face to face conversations. It's good for us as humans.
I will say this. I have worked for home from
home and it is delightful. It is nice to just
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walk into the other room, flip open the laptop, sit
there in my comfy clothes, cup of coffee that I
made that I didn't pay for. You can go and
eat whatever you want to eat, when you want to
eat it. It's it doesn't really feel like you're at work.
It's to support you, kind of make your own schedule
(30:40):
kind of thing. It's oh, it is a nice life.
It is a nice life. So I can see why
people don't want to leave doing that.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
And there are some people who, like you said, some
people who thrive in that environment store and we hear
them whenever we talk about this. We always hear people
who say, but I'm I'm my job is the best
job because because I can work from home and I'm
better for it because I hate people or whatever.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well, and especially like parents working parents that can do
drop offs and pickups and all of that, and I
get it. I get why it's delightful, and I do
think that we will never go back to a complete
work from work environment anywhere.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Work from work.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
There have been hybrid policies, and we saw them in
our company where they were suggesting, hey, at least come
to work, please, at least come to work two days
a week, and then a few months later it was hey,
maybe you guys bump it up to three times a week.
That would be great and it would help us all out.
Now they're saying that for the most part, there are
very clear established rules. We've gotten used to coming to
(31:47):
work on a regular basis where you work from is
well established. Now there are questions about when you come
to work, and are flexible schedules the way to do it.
And for most office I mean, if you think of
I don't even know what a great example would be
insurance company something like that, where people work nine to
five or eight to five or something. Then there's no
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reason why you couldn't have a more hybrid schedule where
at times you come in in the afternoon for several
hours through the first half of the week and then
do your morning shift other times in the week.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
But there's a report.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
That talks about the change when it comes to employee
priorities that right now people are not paying as much
attention to salary as they are things like work life balance.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Right because I mean, honestly, the whole eight hour workday
is so antiquated. There is so much downtime where you're
not doing anything. Why couldn't you do things?
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Why can't you.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Use your time more wisely? And who knows how to
use your time more wisely than you? Even if you
choose not to, you know what you could be using
your time time for, whether it's taking the kids somewhere
or you know, meal prepping or exercising or taking whatever
it is, doctors, doctor's appointment, things like that, as opposed
to sitting at work for eight hours and doing maybe
(33:14):
four hours of real work in that eight hours.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
There's a lot of wasted time in many work schedules.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I mean, I remember when I worked at a car
dealership in high school and it was an eight hour
day and I did maybe thirty seven.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Minutes of real work.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
What did you do with a car dealership?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I did paperwork, I did you know, secretary stuff, and
I would also did the It was my first radio job.
I got to make announcements over the loud speakers. It
was really cool, Elmer, Like.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
It was awesome, Like I saw you like a salesman though,
like selling some cars. No, I couldn't.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I couldn't sell my way out of a freaking shoe box.
Two honest, Elmer, not like other sales people. Just lie
lie lie sell sell No, just kid me.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
Our favorite.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
My favorite salesperson is at our He is the best
because he is honest and genuine at his job.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
But they said, uh, high salaries are still the top
reason that people switch jobs, but the ability to control
your own schedule is the reason that someone would stay.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I have friends like that that have stayed in jobs
because they've been granted the ability to make their own
schedule and it works for the company. They have the
same amount of productivity. A lot of them work from home,
and these are sales jobs. And they're females too. I
think females know how to manage their time better. Sometimes
they're better at multitasking. I think that science says.
Speaker 8 (34:48):
That literally just described like Diane, Yeah, yeah, working from
home makes your own schedule, And she's like, you know,
I must stand in this job just because I have
so much freedom to that thing.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
And if it's sustainable salve, if it is a sustainable salary,
you know, if she's not worried about it, then that's
that's a perfect.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Reason to do it.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
If if you're only allowing the salary to drive your
decision on that, then it's you know, you're not going
to have any fun. But there is a flexibility gap.
Fifty seven percent of employees believe flexible working hours would
improve their quality of life, but only forty nine percent
of them have access to that can make up their
(35:27):
own schedules like that.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
So congratulations to your girlfriend. That's lucky. She's lucky. I mean,
we can't do it, Garry.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
If you worked from home, you would be in last
week's pajamas right now.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
You would be which which pajamas? Would I be at
last week's pajamas?
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Yeah? Okay, pajamas last.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
More than a week, like you know, your Jetson's onesie
go on, and you would be, you know, eating out
of last.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Week's pizza box.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
True, that is a true story.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Because you went to waste it even though it's definitely
time to throw it out right, you'd be you know,
not in good shape.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Okay, your hair would be all over the place. You
wouldn't see my hair.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I would probably be moisturized.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
What does that mean. I don't know what that means.
I mean, I'm not saying no. I just don't know
what you mean.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Like, when you work from home, you have more time
for self care.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Oh, oh, you like put a face mask on?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
You know, maybe a little red light mask therapy for you. No,
whiten your teeth. No, let me see your teeth. Oh
you got good teeth.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yeah, you don't need to whiten them. They're really white.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Do you just whiten them? No? Do you whiten them
for baseball camp?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
No?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
All right, we'll talk trending. Work on a smile to
Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hey reminder, Wednesday night, we're going to be airing a
KFI News special LA Fires one year later. Michael Monks
is going to host. It's going to include reports from
the different KFI News team discussing the fires of course
from last year, their aftermath, they're lasting impact, and how
Southern California is doing on the road to recovery again.
That's going to be day after tomorrow. That's Wednesday night,
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seven PMS.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
When that starts, well, we had a court appearance today
for Nicholas Maduro there in New York before a ninety
two year old judge and Marco Rubio seems to be
the orchestrator of this entire international circus.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
That's where we kick off swamp Watch.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar.
And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm still in their lollipops. Yeah,
we got.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
The real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
The other side never quit, so what I'm not going anywhere?
Speaker 5 (01:04):
So that is how you train the squad.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
What has been.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
You know, Americans have always been going act president. They're
not stupid.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Why have the people voting for you with na swap watch?
They're all counter on.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Nicholas Maduro and his wife pleaded not guilty today in
federal court in Manhattan to drug trafficking charges. The judge
asking Nicholas Maduro to clarify his identity, state his name,
and Maduro went on a rant, telling the judge he
had been kidnapped from his home. I am the president
of the Republic of Venezuela, he said, and I am
here kidnaps since January third, Saturday. I was captured in
(01:43):
my home in Caracas, Venezuela. The judge, ninety two years old, interrupts,
telling him we'll discuss the legal sufficiency of what was
done at a later date. He went on, Maduro, did
I am a kidnapp president, prisoner of war? They've been
charged he and the wife with conspiracy to import cocaine,
possession of machine guns destructive devices. Additionally charged with narco terrorism, conspiracy,
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such a strong.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Such a fairy tale, Carlen Wiz the judge you mentioned
this as ninety two year old Judge Alvin Hellerstein is
based there in Manhattan. He was the one who oversaw
the arraignment today and probably can preside over any trial, that.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Is, if he lasts. I mean, he's ninety two years old.
Let's get be honest.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
He One former federal prosecutor describing the judge said, he
tries very hard to do the right thing. He just
has his own sense of what that is. Another one
said he's just an old and old school or he's
just old and old school and does things his own
way and doesn't give an ss about what anyone thinks
about him.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
He does have a history with this administration. He's ruled
against President Trump or his administration in other high profile cases,
including the charges involved the hush money to Stormy Daniels,
WHOA that's a blast from the past. He twice rejected
Trump's bids to move that case to federal court. He
also issued a sweeping order lass may blocking the administration
(03:13):
from deporting immigrants under the Alien Enemies Act with little
due process.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
They describe him as being aggressive about managing the conduct
of attorneys in his courtroom, maybe even micromanaging. They said
that he insists on attorneys making maintaining a brisk pace,
and he gets impatient a lot of times with testimony.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
He likes to move things along.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Again, he's ninety two, very conscious of a jury becoming bored,
if that's the case. But most of the lawyers Politico talk,
reach out and talk to a bunch of lawyers who
have tried cases in front of this judge, and they said, listen,
he may be ninety two.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
This guy knows what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
He has very fit in terms of his ability to
try a case like this, very high profile. Some had
said he has a pretty long, exhibited independent bordering on
stubbornness characteristics about him. So no questions necessarily about his
abilities according to the other attorneys again that have been
in his courtroom.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
But Marco Rubio has an axe to grind, and it
goes back to his parents being from Cuba and Venezuela
asserting control. You stop me if I'm wrong, because I'm
way out of pocket here. But Venezuela kind of running
things in Cuba and ruining that vice versa, vice versus
Cuba running things in Venezuela.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
He said.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
He said in that news conference on Saturday that a
lot of the Venezuelan intelligence agencies are overrun with Cuban exiles,
and that Cuba was using Venezuela as sort of a
puppet state for its own benefit. And obviously he is
the son of Cuban exiles. He has built his political
(04:59):
eye identity on that. And this they're saying, this operation,
if you want to call it, that in Venezuela really
marks the end of or the climax of his lifelong
ambition to restore democracy to that part of the world.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, but I mean, isn't Cuba next.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Speak could be heat And in fact, that's the other
thing he said was if I was in government in
Havana right now, I'd be concerned.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
I'd be worried.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Twenty fourteen, when he was a senator from Florida, he
took to the Flora the Senate to scold the administration
at the time, Obama administration, because they said it was
shameful to sanction the leader of Venezuela, Maduro and not
go after him and try to depose him, that it
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wasn't enough that the United States should be using its
power more strategically to get Maduro out. In twenty seventeen,
Venezuela's security chief supposedly took a hit out on Marco
Rubio after that. Because of this, and because of his
long time, I don't know if saber rattling is the
(06:16):
right term in this case, because he was just the
guy pointing and bringing attention to what was going on
in Venezuela.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
But his.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Family DNA of you know, Cuban exiles, is partly what
drives him in this right.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So his parents left Cuba in fifty six years before
Fidel Castro's revolution in fifty nine, went for the American
dream right there in Miami. The familiar story. Now, they
were going to go back to Cuba in the sixties,
I think at one point, but that when that country
(06:55):
moved towards communism, the door was closed on that as well.
Communism for the comeback man. A lot of talk about
communism with mom, Donnie and all that.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Oh, I have a quote from him. I actually have
a sound lighte from him in his there he took
to a podium. I don't remember exactly if it was
Saturday or yesterday, but Mom Donnie came out and suggested
that he called President Trump and talked to him about this.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Can you imagine what that phone call sounded like.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
I called the President and spoke with him directly to
register my opposition to this act and to make clear
that it was an opposition based on being opposed to
a pursuit of regime change.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I just imagine in my mind the cartoon is Trump goes, wait,
who is calling?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Yeah, and then he picks up the phone.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
He goes, hey, ze, what's up and then just stops
listening to the phone, and whoever's in the room, he
does the little hand to mouth.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I don't even think the phone or entertains even the
entire sentence of who is on the phone right now?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Right, I don't even know if that call gets through.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Listen, I guess if you're the mayor of New York City.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Is this guy already word salading his life? That sounded
like a word salad.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
That's how he got elected.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, I heard another word slid quote from him about
just made up words like the individualism or something like
just making up things, just throwing prefixes.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
On been mayor for what five days now? And it's
going to be a buckle up, Buckle up, Buckle up
letter cub. All right, when we come back, the Make
America Healthy Again campaign is button up against ultra processed food.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Well, the ultra process foods people are the people that
brought us cigarettes are good for you. I mean really,
the ultra process food geniuses that have made these foods
so addictive are the people that made nicotine and cigarettes
so addictive.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
So they know what they're doing and they know how
to pivot.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
And now they're saying that all of this talk about
ultra process foods being bad is just going to be
a complete failure of a movement because of how expensive
it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
And if affordability is the key word at the end
of twenty five and coming into twenty six.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Then yeah, that's where the failure comes in. We'll talk
about I'm going to order our pizza and come back.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Forty coming up in the next hour if you're looking
for it, and I don't know who is, Because I
thought today was going to be a disaster when it
came to traffic of people coming.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Back to work. Oh yeah, it was everybody.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I don't know? Are people working from home?
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Is?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I thought this would be the Monday that everyone comes back,
and it was just going to be insane to get
to work. So if you need motivational money Monday, we'll
have it perfect. I'm coming up in the next hour.
But where is everybody?
Speaker 4 (09:57):
I don't know? They weren't at work this morning, that's
for certain.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
And usually that's the only indicator there's nobody in our building.
There's no when When does school? When does school get back?
That'll probably next Monday. I think that's probably it. Oh boy,
don't I wonder if I'm going to run into a
bunch of travel ball twelve year olds at the old
batting cages today.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
You should be fine.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
You'll get there before the school's out out.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Eh, well, you'll find out.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
It'll be fine if it's crowded in the middle of
the fun of me, no one's going to make fun
of you. You'll have your own cage, you'll have your
own pitting machine. The only person that's going to make
fun of you is going to be you, And you
make fun of you the worst, my own worst You
are your own worst enemy.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
You mentioned the companies that make stuff like Dorito's and
Oscar Meyer and Kraft mac and cheese, and they're parallels
to tobacco companies. Well, there are a lot of those
food companies that are now owned by the tobacco companies,
and there's such crossover between the two now that what
(11:06):
we saw sixty seventy years ago in terms of the
selling of tobacco products to people as a way to relax,
and you know, back in the fifties, they were.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
It was a way for you to you know, maybe
not the healthiest digest, to help you digest. That's what
it was.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Ultra Processed foods are just not good for you, period.
And the thing that RFK. Junior has been trying to
do as Secretary of Health and Human Services is bring
that to the forefront so that not only do we
not just you know, kind of knowingly ignore some of
the health risks that come with ultra processed foods, but
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to actually fight against the ultra processed foods and the
companies that create them, that make them are starting to
try to find a new way to fight against it
and not just say things like, oh, of course they're healthy.
They're saying things like, well, if if you force people
to eat the healthier versions of our foods, it's going
(12:06):
to be more expensive. And everybody's already dealing with the
affordability crisis.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
A recent Politico poll found that Americans across democratic demographic
groups rank cost of living as the country's top problem.
Forty five percent named grocery prices as the most challenging expense.
I've been barking about this for like, it feels like
six years of what is going on in the grocery store.
(12:32):
I mean, you have had the excuse of the pandemic
and the shortages that led to the higher prices. You
saw the ships all lined up outside of Long Beach.
You saw everything was stuck a higher price. So we
all just dealt with it. The shrink flation and all
that stuff. Well, that was a long time ago. And
I know that once things get more expensive, rarely do
(12:57):
they get less expensive. They don't go back the other way,
never go back the other way. So now what do
you do to combat that? And if the new regulations
on process foods are just gonna exacerbate that, exacerbate that problem,
then that is going to land right squarely on the
shoulders of Republicans and the administration going into a very
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important year for midterms.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, and how do you, I mean, how do you
convince people that, yes, it's better for you to not
eat the stuff in the middle of the store, It's
better for you to eat the stuff from the farmer's
markets and from the outside of the store, from the
outer walls all that. How do you convince them of
that when they're dealing with just the money crunch and
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the I think the problem for us people our age
is that's kind of how we were raised. That's the
food that we ate for a long time and never
really had, I mean, up until this point, never really
had the knowledge that that was not a great idea.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I mean, I knew.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I knew when I was in high school having a
Pepsi and a Snickers bar for lunch was not great.
But I also had this feeling that, well, I'm sixteen
years old.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
You also kept doing it.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
It's just like cigarettes, you know, they get more addictive
as you eat more. Because we've eaten Nacha cheese Doritos
for so long, You're like, what do you mean that.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
It's not good for me? I have to stopped doing that.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
You know, the damage has been done, and if that's
all you know, then then that's what you're gonna eat.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
It takes a while for you to realize.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
It takes a while not eating nacho cheese doritos to
realize that you don't really like those, you're just.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Addicted to them.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
You stop eating those for a couple of years, you
go back to them, and you're like, no, it doesn't
taste the same. I don't need to have the entire
I'll just have the single serving. I don't need the
entire bag.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Right, Well, it depends on what your idea of a
single serving is.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
But like it takes a long time out of the
game to realize that wasn't the game for you or
for your body. I guess because it is is your
body stops responded like you don't need nacha cheese doritas.
For a couple of years, you go back to it.
Your body's can be like what the heck is this,
and you're like, oh, maybe something is not right with
these now. I use the worst example possible because I've
never had that experience with nacho cheese doritos, but I
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have had that experience with like Taco bell.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Well, I was going to say fast food is also
as a perfect example of that because it is so
first of all, it's easy. What the thing about ultra
processed foods is they're so easy there, you pull them
out of the box, put it in your face. Period.
That's why it's ultra process because they did all of
the work for you, even if keeping that thing, whatever
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it is, shelf stable, keeping it so it looks good
after being produced months and months ago, if not longer,
taste good or taste exciting, whatever it is, all of
the stuff that goes into making those things that are
the things that are bad for you.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Are You're right?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I get a little choked up when I talk about that.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
When you talk about nacho cheese doritos, don't worry. The
pizza should be here in about a half an hour.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Uh, Is that ultra processes?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Count it as ultrue. Yes, it's okay once in a while.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I mean, we haven't had a pizza since like your
last birthday.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Uh, your birthday I think was rightly have been the
last time we did.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, we've cut back on pizza.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
We went through a time when we would get pizza
once every couple months to.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Wash down the rum and coke.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
It was a different time. That was a different time.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
It feels uh, you know, the benefit of the fogginess
of time makes it seem like it was a it
was a happy time.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
We used to do a two hour show and order pizza.
We used to have two of us do a show
from one to three and order a pizza and then
go play ping pong for an hour.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, why were why did they allow us to do that?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Maybe that's what that meeting like.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
That sounds incredibly wasteful.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Whose idea that.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It's Gary's birthday today. It's his birthday. We've got London
and Phoenix in the studio with us. We're taking down
the Christmas tree here.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
So sad tradition.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Does everybody know how to sing Happy birthday? You guys
know how to sing Happy birthday? Can you come over
here and help me out? Can you come over here
and help me out on the radio and we'll all
sing elma, Are you ready to sing?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Ready?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
One?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Gary?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Are you ready for? I'm ready for my birthday?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
One?
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Two? Threeevirthday, Happy Birthday to birthday, sound like, thank you, Well,
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you'll be here.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
We have pizza coming.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Yay, let's see.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Isn't that the best way to celebrate you? And that's sweet?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I like, well, we could play it later, but oh
that yeah, we'll do that.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Than another.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
We're talking about pizza. We got pizza coming for Gary's birthday.
But apparently, according to the Wall Street Journal, America is
falling out of love with pizza.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
What is happening to us now? Again?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I have zero problem eating pizza. I'm very good at
it as a matter of fact. Yeah, but we don't
do it very often. But when we do, I make it.
I make a game of it.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
You.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
You can put down a lot of pizza you could eat.
I would if I put down a large pizza in
front of you, you could probably eat more than half
of it. You have an ability to eat a large
quantity of food at a sitting.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yes, not championship level, but you know high minor leagues.
Well you don't want to waste it right right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
But then you wouldn't eat anything till tomorrow or would
you go along with dinner.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
As No, I'd be like that bola constrictor that ate
a deer. And'd be satisfied for a while.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, I have it in my head that I've got
to eat, you know, dinner, even if I eat a
big lunch, like, I still have it in my head
like I have to eat dinner. I can't just like
have a big lunch and be like, oh, I had
a big lunch and then just not and then just
go quietly into the night.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
I can't do that into the slumber on your couch.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
It's just there's something not right about that.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Pizza used to be the second most common type of
restaurant in the United States.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
It's dropped now to third.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
In fact, coffee shops and Mexican food restaurants outnumber pizza
restaurants in the United States. Sales growth at pizza restaurants
lagging behind the other fast food markets.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Is it because they've gotten more expensive? You know, you
used to get a pizza for five bucks. I'm thinking
about Little Caesar's right five hundred years ago.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
And now it's nine bucks.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I mean, it's not that much more expensive for some
of those, but there are If you go to a
good sit down pizza place, it can be very expensive.
They said that pizza obviously had, you know, pizza huts,
dining in restaurants, the cardboard boxes that were made specifically
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for pizza delivery and things like that.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, they talk about the parent of piology, Pizza Rhea
filing for Chapter eleven bankruptcy.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
But I feel like that was just a fad that
ran its course.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
The essentially flatbread individual pizzas where you go and you know, Blaze, Piloge,
all those ones. There's a couple more in there right
where you go in and you tell them, you know,
it's like Chipotle and they're the counter and they put
on the pizza whatever, and it's like that. But is
that really pizza? You know, there's that argument or is
that just like glorified flatbread that you get to personalize,
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which is fine too, but is it pizza?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Well, pizza used to be the only thing that you
could get delivered.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I mean, is the GLP one thing that is.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Part of it? It's got to be.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I mean, all of the food stories that we've done
in the last year have had some connection to GLP
ones and the interruption of that desire. We talked about
it last week, and we talked about food noise that
over referred to just this constant thinking of food and
where it's coming from and what it's like.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Now.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Granted, I have pizza noise in my head and have
had for the entire weekend because I'm looking forward to
this pizza that's about to grace my pizza hole.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I don't want you to.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Get your hopes up because if something goes wrong with
the delivery.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Funny, what did you say, I said, pizza hole.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Yeah, I'm sorry, Roy, and I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Children should I ask them to a point to know?
So I don't usually have children in the in the room,
I forget, but golp ones in terms of the ability
to interrupt what you think about and how you think
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about food.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, you eat one piece of pizza and then you
know what happens to the rest of it.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Kind of a thing.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Yeah, But the.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Thing with pizza is like, it's good even if and
I've done this, got a large pizza and I'll have
a slice of it, and then it's good in the fridge.
It's good the next day for breakfast, it's good for lunch.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
I mean, you can go back to that pizza.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Several times in the next couple of days.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Staple in my apartments in college. It should be a staple.
I love cold pizza.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Sometimes I prefer it cold, prefer to put it in
the fridge, let it cool down a little bit.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Well, now you're just being a baby about it.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
No, I just like the taste of a cold pizza.
I like the congealed cheese into the meats on the.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Bread less stringy. Yeah, it's easier to eat, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Pizza's dominance when it comes to American restaurant fair is
declining among different cuisines. Pizza ranks sixth in terms of
sales among restaurant chains. That's down from second place during
the nineties. The number of pizza restaurants in the United
States hit a record high six years ago and has
declined since then. The thing is, there's also this knowledge,
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I mean to kind of pick up from what we
were talking about last segment, when it comes to knowledge
about ultra processed foods and people's ability to discern for
themselves is what is healthy and what is not healthy.
Everybody can kind of agree pizza is not very healthy,
but that's not what you eat it for.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
That isn't what you eat it for.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I mean, there are people who will eat cauliflower crust.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
You get pizza on a pizza with your friends or
your family. It's easy, it's easy clean up, easy deliver.
You don't have to worry about what are you gonna cook,
what are you gonna make? Usually everyone kind of likes
some kind of pizza. You can make everyone happy in
a couple of kids. I mean, it's an easy group thing.
And that's what I'm wondering about too. It's a confluence
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of things, right. It's the glp ones, it's the price
of pizza, and it's also when's the last time you
got together with a bunch of friends and just ordered
a couple pizzas Like, aside from us being here, I
haven't done that in a while.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I think that there's fewer.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
It goes back to teenagers getting together the way we
That was like the time of my life when I
eat the most pizza. It was like maybe you know,
eight years old to twenty two, where you just get
together with friends and.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
You always got pizza.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Well, the kids aren't getting together like that as much
anymore because of the phones.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
But that's like I said, pizza used to be the
only thing that was delivered all that side of every
once in a while there were like Chinese restaurants that
would deliver, but that was really the staple food for delivery.
And now anything can be delivered right whatever it is,
you know, thanks to.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
The Chicken wings from Magic City delivered right now. It's
got to take a while, take a day and a half,
but they'll get here.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
They also said as growth in pizza sales stagnates, it's
potentially good for the customer because they get into price
wars Dominoes. I mentioned the nine dollars thing. The Dominoes
has a nine to ninety nine offering for a large
pizza with toppings at Pizza Hut. They said locations. The
sales at locations open at least a year of decline
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for eight straight quarters, and it has hundreds of dining
in restaurants. They're more costly to operate, and they account
for the shrinking slice of where people eat their pizza.
So it's I watched an awful movie over the weekend
that had pizza in it and it looked disgusting.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
What was the movie. It's called Playdate.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
It was with Alan Richson who plays the new Jack
Reacher in that Amazon okay, the Amazon. He's former American
Idol contestant who's just the massive beast of a person.
He and Kevin James, comedian Kevin James.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Okay, and it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I feel like I may have started this and left
it within about ninety seconds.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
And I should have done the same. It looked awful.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I saw a pretty what depressing? Oh you liked it, Elmer?
Speaker 6 (26:28):
I liked it?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Well.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
The reason I convinced my wife to because I know
my wife is a huge fan of physical comedy and
she laughs uncontrollably. She can't stifle a laugh. And your
wife laugh.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
There are a lot of kick in the groin jokes
about that. Did she like it? No, but she laughed.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I have seen, on the other hand, the Tom Segura
late a stand up twice Teachers.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yes, yeah, I haven't seen it. It's so good, good,
it's so much fun that maybe that's my birthday show.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Oh, I recommend And it's only like an hour?
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Yeah? All right? Up? Next, Where is everybody?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Where is everybody? Why isn't everybody at work today? We'll
get into it.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
A M six forty.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
You look bewildered. Are you bewildered? Is that a new
Is that your new birthday face?
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I don't know how to bewilderment.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I don't know how to navigate life as a as
an old person.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
You're not old. Yeah, it's a question.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
You're fine, perfectly acceptable, Thank you, this face perfectly acceptable.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Is there an age you want to stick with as
we move forward?
Speaker 4 (27:52):
R Yeah, that's not laugh too loud, but it's just
a little too deep in that laugh.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I just want to know because I have mine, you know,
you gave me mine, which was what the thirty seven?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Oh I'm sticking.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Well, I remember you when you were thirty seven. Okay,
all right, let's yeah. I remember you when you were.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Go on, uh, thirty two.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, thirty two. You look exactly the same.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Oh that's nice, that's nice.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yeah, so this is so thirty two. You look thinner.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
You're in better shape, probably, am I know? Thinner at least? Yeah,
a better shape. Back then, you were, uh, you're rolling
to breakfast foods. There were a lot of pastries.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I saw you eating a lot of breakfast foods back then,
A lot of doughnuts, a lot of muffins, yeah, bagels, but.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
That's because I was working in the very early.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
When you work on the morning show, you're kind of like,
it's like a lay Miz situation. I've never seen lay Miz,
but I imagine you wake up at two three in
the morning. By about nine a you feel like you
could put down enough food to feed a family of four.
It's just the way it is. For whatever reason, just
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that's the way I was built. When you wake up
early in the morning like that, you are ravenous and
then you take a nap for three hours, and that's
not good. It's a whole lifestyle of just bad, bad decisions,
physical decisions that you have to make when you have
that schedule.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
I'm sure that people who work in the morning shorten
their life.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
They have to just the dietary things alone.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
For the last several years, well, would you say three
four years, there's been this discussion that I never that
my grandfather would have hated, which is the return to work,
a war fight whatever you want to call it, between
people who would rather work from home and those who
would go to the office.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I would the environment say this, we firmly, but we're
on the record everybody knows it that. We think it's
a good idea to go to work, to leave the
house every day, go to work, be around other people,
have face to face conversations. It's good for us as humans.
I will say this. I have worked for home from
home and it is delightful. It is nice to just
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walk into the other room, flip open the laptop, sit
there in my comfy clothes, cup of coffee that I
made that I didn't pay for. You can go and
eat whatever you want to eat, when you want to
eat it. It's it doesn't really feel like you're at work.
It's to support you, kind of make your own schedule
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kind of thing. It's oh, it is a nice life.
It is a nice life. So I can see why
people don't want to leave doing that.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
And there are some people who, like you said, some
people who thrive in that environment store and we hear
them whenever we talk about this. We always hear people
who say, but I'm I'm my job is the best
job because because I can work from home and I'm
better for it because I hate people or whatever.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well, and especially like parents working parents that can do
drop offs and pickups and all of that, and I
get it. I get why it's delightful, and I do
think that we will never go back to a complete
work from work environment anywhere.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Work from work.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
There have been hybrid policies, and we saw them in
our company where they were suggesting, hey, at least come
to work, please, at least come to work two days
a week, and then a few months later it was hey,
maybe you guys bump it up to three times a week.
That would be great and it would help us all out.
Now they're saying that for the most part, there are
very clear established rules. We've gotten used to coming to
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work on a regular basis where you work from is
well established. Now there are questions about when you come
to work, and are flexible schedules the way to do it.
And for most office I mean, if you think of
I don't even know what a great example would be
insurance company something like that, where people work nine to
five or eight to five or something. Then there's no
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reason why you couldn't have a more hybrid schedule where
at times you come in in the afternoon for several
hours through the first half of the week and then
do your morning shift other times in the week.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
But there's a report.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
That talks about the change when it comes to employee
priorities that right now people are not paying as much
attention to salary as they are things like work life balance.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Right because I mean, honestly, the whole eight hour workday
is so antiquated. There is so much downtime where you're
not doing anything. Why couldn't you do things?
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Why can't you.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Use your time more wisely? And who knows how to
use your time more wisely than you? Even if you
choose not to, you know what you could be using
your time time for, whether it's taking the kids somewhere
or you know, meal prepping or exercising or taking whatever
it is, doctors, doctor's appointment, things like that, as opposed
to sitting at work for eight hours and doing maybe
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four hours of real work in that eight hours.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
There's a lot of wasted time in many work schedules.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I mean, I remember when I worked at a car
dealership in high school and it was an eight hour
day and I did maybe thirty seven.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Minutes of real work.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
What did you do with a car dealership?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I did paperwork, I did you know, secretary stuff, and
I would also did the It was my first radio job.
I got to make announcements over the loud speakers. It
was really cool, Elmer, Like.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
It was awesome, Like I saw you like a salesman though,
like selling some cars. No, I couldn't.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I couldn't sell my way out of a freaking shoe box.
Two honest, Elmer, not like other sales people. Just lie
lie lie sell sell No, just kid me.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
Our favorite.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
My favorite salesperson is at our He is the best
because he is honest and genuine at his job.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
But they said, uh, high salaries are still the top
reason that people switch jobs, but the ability to control
your own schedule is the reason that someone would stay.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I have friends like that that have stayed in jobs
because they've been granted the ability to make their own
schedule and it works for the company. They have the
same amount of productivity. A lot of them work from home,
and these are sales jobs. And they're females too. I
think females know how to manage their time better. Sometimes
they're better at multitasking. I think that science says.
Speaker 8 (34:48):
That literally just described like Diane, Yeah, yeah, working from
home makes your own schedule, And she's like, you know,
I must stand in this job just because I have
so much freedom to that thing.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
And if it's sustainable salve, if it is a sustainable salary,
you know, if she's not worried about it, then that's
that's a perfect.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Reason to do it.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
If if you're only allowing the salary to drive your
decision on that, then it's you know, you're not going
to have any fun. But there is a flexibility gap.
Fifty seven percent of employees believe flexible working hours would
improve their quality of life, but only forty nine percent
of them have access to that can make up their
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own schedules like that.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
So congratulations to your girlfriend. That's lucky. She's lucky. I mean,
we can't do it, Garry.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
If you worked from home, you would be in last
week's pajamas right now.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
You would be which which pajamas? Would I be at
last week's pajamas?
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Yeah? Okay, pajamas last.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
More than a week, like you know, your Jetson's onesie
go on, and you would be, you know, eating out
of last.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Week's pizza box.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
True, that is a true story.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Because you went to waste it even though it's definitely
time to throw it out right, you'd be you know,
not in good shape.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Okay, your hair would be all over the place. You
wouldn't see my hair.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I would probably be moisturized.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
What does that mean. I don't know what that means.
I mean, I'm not saying no. I just don't know
what you mean.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Like, when you work from home, you have more time
for self care.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Oh, oh, you like put a face mask on?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
You know, maybe a little red light mask therapy for you. No,
whiten your teeth. No, let me see your teeth. Oh
you got good teeth.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yeah, you don't need to whiten them. They're really white.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Do you just whiten them? No? Do you whiten them
for baseball camp?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
No?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
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