November 20, 2025 • 28 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
We're finding out more about that Alhambra police officer died
after a crash at the end of a pursuit in
the Boyle Heights area. A twenty eight year old officer
had just been on the job for a few months. Awful,
and wasn't even scheduled to be working last night, but
was covering for somebody.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
So awful.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
That is one of those stories that's going to be
with us through the course of the day today and
we'll bring you updates through the CAFI newsroom. Tiffany Hobbs
in for Shannon today. Republican senators are warning Attorney General
Pam Bondy not to slow walk the release of the
Epstein files. That's where we will start our swamp watch.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar,
and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipop.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So yeah, we got the real problem is that our
leaders are done.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
The other side never quits what what, I'm not going anywhere,
So that now you train the slaw.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
You know, Americans have always been gone at President.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
They're not stupid.
Speaker 7 (01:13):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Haven't people voted for you were na swamp watch? They're
all counting on again.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
The President did sign the Epstein trans Files Transparency Act
into law that starts a clock of thirty days for
the Department of Justice to give out the information that
exists in the Epstein files.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
We talked earlier in the show.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
The forty computers, twenty six storage drives, seventy CDs, about
three hundred gigabytes of digital information, A lot of stuff,
A lot of stuff on top of the sixty pieces
of physical evidence, pictures, notes, lists, travelogs, and then of
course a large volume they say, of images of Epstein,
images and videos of victims, and over ten thousand downloaded
(01:58):
videos and images of illegal child sex abuse material and
other pornography. So some of that is what will be
coming out. Obviously, they can't release all of it. Huge
meeting is coming up tomorrow. This is President Trump and
zoron Mom Donnie, the new Or, I should say the
Mayor elect of New York City.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
I view this meeting as an opportunity for me to
make my case, and I'll make that case to anyone Franklin,
as we've been doing over the course of the campaign,
and now as I will be the next mayor of
the city, it behooves me to ensure that I leave
no stone unturned and looking to make the city more affordable.
And this is a meeting where I look forward to
speaking about the affordability agenda, public safety, and economic security
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for each and every person that calls the city home.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Trump still calls him a communist.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
The last thing way it is a communist. He's a
Soto nutcap.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And in fact, last night, I'm sure this is going
to be a fine meeting. Last night on Truth Social
President Trump to talk about the meeting, wrote Communist Mayor
of New York City zoron quame. Mom, Donnie has asked
for a meeting. We have agreed that this meeting will
take place at the Oval office on Friday, November twenty.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
First, the transition team, Mam Donnie's team.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Again, he doesn't get sworn into office until I'm not
sure if it's the first of January, but I know
it's the first week. They put out a statement. It said,
as is customary for an incoming mayoral administration, the mayor
elect plans to meet with President in Washington to discuss
public safety, economic security, and the affordability agenda that over
a million New York Is voted to two weeks ago.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Blub blah.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So the announcement came after Trump did say last weekend
he wants to meet with mom Donnie so they can
work something out.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
I mean, I for one vote for this. You know,
the fighting on the White House lawn that's been proposed,
a cage fight thirty four year old Mandannie mmas seventy
nine year old President Trump.
Speaker 9 (03:58):
Let's see who can handle their own why not?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
The President did at one point threaten to deport Zest.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
He is a naturalized citizen.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
He was born in Uganda, and he wanted to Also,
the President did talk about pull pulling federal money from
the city. So he won handily. I mean, he beat
former Governor Cuomo by nine percentage points.
Speaker 8 (04:26):
I love how President Trump will just talk so much
mess about people and then meet them and shake their
hands and such a good guy.
Speaker 9 (04:35):
Great meeting and as if none of that ever happened.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well, it's and that's been his pattern is there's a
lot of bluster, there's a lot of you know, going
back and forth. Just think about the people who ran
against him in twenty sixteen. Just if that's all we did.
The only person I know that he's not made amends
with is Jeb Bush. He ripped Jeb Bush to pieces.
But everybody else that was that was either running against
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him or said bad things again. Mark he called Marco
Rubio basically a child with little hands. Yes he did,
and Marco Rubio is now his Secretary of State, among
other things. He's got like six job titles. Vance JD
Vance is another guy. Ted Cruz is another guy who's
an adamant supporter of President Trump. It's not, you know,
(05:22):
one hundred percent, but it's a whole lot more than
what they were.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
You know, they were going after each other in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 8 (05:30):
I say, cage fight. Let Marjorie Taylor Green officiate. Just
make it a fun pay per view event.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
George Conway is announcing his intent to run for Congress
and is promising to be a major thorn in President
Trump's side. If elected, he's described as conservative attorney George Conway.
This is the former spouse of longtime advisor to Trump,
Kelly Ann Conway. He recently met with Democratic activists. He's
(05:59):
hired Democratic polster Anna Greenberg, and he's entertained the idea
of running for the seat that is vacated by tiny
Jerry Nadler in New York. Also looking for an apartment
in that district so that he can actually qualify to
represent that district. At an event that was organized by
a liberal group called Democracy Docket, he promised that he
(06:21):
would use his time in elected office to hold Trump
administration officials legally accountable.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I can only believe that this political leaning of his.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Helped dissolve whatever beautiful marriage he had with Kelly Ann.
Speaker 9 (06:38):
Former spouse, r former spouse.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
And then finally.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Washington by way of Florida Congresswoman Sheila Sherfullis McCormick has
been indicted on charges that she was stealing COVID funds
for political purposes.
Speaker 9 (06:55):
With her brother.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Nevertheless, she and her brother Edwin worked on a staffing
contract funded by FEMA for COVID vaccinations that were tied
to their families healthcare company a few years back, and
the company was overpaid, oh five dollars, five hundred thousand dollars,
five million dollars. They were allegedly overpaid and then stole
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the overpayment allegedly and routed it through various accounts so
that it would eventually go into a reelection campaign.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
How do you think that conversation is going to go
over at Thanksgiving amongst the around the family table there,
brother and sister.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Well, we come back AI generated audio content. This is
an absolute shot across the bow of this show. Stations
like this radio people around the world. This is not
a good thing. We'll talk about that. We come back.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
We mentioned that there was a memorial service funeral today
for former Vice President Dick Cheney at the National Cathedral
there in Washington, d C. All of the living former
presidents and vice presidents I think they were I know
all the vice presidents were there. I'm not sure if
all the former presidents were there. But apparently the family,
(08:24):
the Cheney family, did not invite the sitting president or
the vice president. So just to give you an idea
that ongoing riff between the two. He has not ever
really been a fan of the Cheney's I don't know
what I mean. I don't remember what Trump thought of
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Cheney when he was the actual vice president, but obviously
the fight with Liz Cheney, Dick Cheney's daughter while she
was a congresswoman, caused a lot of that.
Speaker 9 (08:53):
So makes sense.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
I've found a thing called pocket FM.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yes, and pocket FM is what they refer to as
an audio series platform. So think audio books or podcast
story podcasts that are done in serial format like most
of them, but there's a pay aspect to it. You
got to pay sometimes per episode to listen to the
(09:22):
next chapter in the story.
Speaker 8 (09:24):
Yeah, and these stories can be as many as one
hundred chapters, so you're paying incrementally to get the next
part of the story.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
It's like a clifhanger, right.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
As opposed to a flat rate or even an audiobook
that you'd pay five ninety nine or ten whatever it is.
You got to pay per thing per episode, and there's
a concern about that. Listen, this strikes deep for me
because I've done I've done audio books, I've done voiceover work,
I've done this job for thirty years now, and there
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is a concern I have. It's not just about the
idea that someone would replace a human with an audio sorry,
an artificially created voice that's been around for a long time.
It's that you would do it without full disclosure. That's
a problem. Oh, there was. This is where it comes from.
(10:22):
They are rather than replacing human creativity.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
This is from their press release.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Rather than replacing human creativity, the company is the company
is using AI to support storytellers in scale high.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Quality audio content.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
A scale is an important word there, but they said
they're using it to support storytellers, which means if you
have an idea for a story, basically you could pump
that into AI and it'll come out with it a
thousand episode story about whatever world you want to create
or knock off of Harry Potter, knockoff of the Twilight movies,
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or vampires or adult Roteman, whatever it is. This thing
is just going to spit out slop.
Speaker 8 (11:07):
And there was an open casting call within the last
year that this app has lived in which people voice actors,
voiceover actors were solicited to provide their expertise their talent
for pocket FM, and many of them who went to
this casting said that the pay of course was abysmal
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and that the ownership thereafter was obsolete. So you're just
again pumping all this content out, but there's not much
to show for it.
Speaker 9 (11:41):
To me, it's very teamu uh.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
And it always one of the head of brand marketing said,
we've all we always believe that human storytelling is going
to be the core part of creativity. With AI, we're
going to be able to enhance it and scale it
with that same quality of a huge number. And to
give you an idea, there are hundreds of titles on
this thing, the app that exists already, and they all
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and each of the little tiles for the story, you know,
like the cover of the book. Basically they all look
AI general. They do because they are all AI general
and at scale. Again, I said that was an important word.
There are companies that are pumping out podcasts to the
tune of three thousand episodes a week and there's not
one lick of humanity in it. Yes, there is a
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seed that is planted by a human which is created
podcast with two people or three people that is funny,
but it talks about sperm whales. I'm sorry, yeah, but
I mean that part of it is what concerns me.
And I've said this, and I asked this question earlier
(12:50):
to you off the air, was shouldn't there be some
explanation of how much of the content is human created
or how much of the performance if in this case,
you know it's somebody reading an audiobook, how much of
that is actual a human reading that into a microphone.
Speaker 8 (13:09):
There should be And YouTube offers that with their video selections,
they have the disclaimer now that says not AI generated,
or a portion, a percentage of this is AI generated.
There are other apps that do the same. There's another
app that is a writing partner for fiction. It's called
Pseudo right, and it's all about say you're an author,
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you have an idea, you type out kind of the
idea that you have like a prompt, and this thing
will completely author a book for you. So the disclaimers
should be there as well. If not, you have people
moonlighting as authors pumping out content and it's not human generated.
Speaker 9 (13:50):
This is this is scary.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
This is a point where Okay, so if we are
if we are in the information age, right, if we
if we have ability to find every for example, every
book that's ever been published. We have the ability to
read parts of it from our pocket, I mean, with
our phones.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
We have that availability.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
The overwhelming amount of information that's about to cascade into
our brains is too much, and we have to be
able to set up signposts to welcome people like hey,
just so you know this is human created content, or
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guardrails to keep AI out of certain spaces. Listen, I
don't There are stations, radio stations, radio companies that would
love to be able to fire human beings and simply
put up AI generated shows, AI generated talk shows, everything,
and they would love to be able to do that
(14:53):
because it's economical for them. It's an economic decision at
that point. But then we're just getting dumber quicker.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
I'm not saying that. I'm not I'm not, you know,
right in the Declaration of.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Independence here, every single day that I come on the air,
I got four hours to stay stupid things. I do
a pretty good job of doing that. But but if
we fall into this pattern of well, it's just a
little easier, it's just a little cheaper, it's it's it's
pretty good, you know, it's good enough.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
That's a dangerous path and.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
There's this idea of competency where that the more we
use AI created or AI generated content or tools, the
smarter we think we are, when in fact we are regressing.
But we think, oh, we're able to pump all this
out do it kind of pull the wool for people's
eyes as well. We're smart, we're getting one over, but
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in reality we are absolutely going backwards.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
You think about it.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
If I were to ask you what the population of
the Netherlands is, don't don't ask No, I wouldn't. I
would never How dare I dare I would never ask
such a question and indelicate question? I asked you the
population of the Netherlands, it would take you ten seconds
to find the answer. Whereas which is fine, But that's
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not you're not learning anything. You may learn it for
a moment and a flash in the pan. It's in
your head, but your head didn't do the work for it.
There's no muscle memory. It's gone just as quickly as
you found it. I could ask you three days from
now with what the population of the Netherlands is, and
you go, I forgot.
Speaker 8 (16:31):
Eh, I got the jeopardy introduction wrong. You know I'm
not your best barometer right now.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
When we come back Tech Talk with Mark Saltzman.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
There is an incredibly sad visual that's coming out of
Boil Heights. There are dozens of police officers lined up
outside the hospital there waiting to escort the body of
one of their fellow officers who was killed this morning
in a high speed collision in a suspect fleeing out
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in the San Gabriel Valley. The passenger that was a
passenger in the car that was being chased was also
killed in this accident. Officer Alec Sanders joined the Alhambra
Police Department just eight months ago. He had served with
Long Beach before that, but died from his injuries at
the hospital this morning, and they're going to do the
very long, sad processional escorting his body to the coroner's office.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
So that's what's going on today.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
The top of the hour, we're going to get into
our trending stories. We're going to tell you more about
those family plans people have to come up with plans
to get through their holiday dinners. We'll do that in
the twelve o'clock hour as well. But it's time for
tech talk.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
The machines are getting smarter.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
This is tech Talk, brought to you by Skynet.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Mark Saltzman joins us to talk about tech. And I've
mentioned the commercial for Alexa plus a couple of times.
This is the Pete Davidson commercial where he's out there
asking his voice assistant about things. Maybe he should change
his name, maybe he should, And it's this very chummy
little conversation.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
And it's terrifying, terrifying.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Mark, that commercial shakes me to my core because I'm
afraid we're soon going to just lay down and let
the robots take over.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, it's a fine line, isn't it. On one hand,
the AI is getting really good, like conversational and proactive.
Instead of you having to summon Alexa with your voice,
she'll recognize your face when you walk by one of
those screens, those smart displays and say, hey, Mark, your
wife Kelly reminded wants to remind you to take out
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the trash today. Like it's getting really good. It'll make
your dinner reservations and then add it to your calendar
for you. But then, yeah, there's that part where it's like, well,
it's great now, but where's is going? And yeah, so
it's it's a fine line indeed, but yeah, I was
at an event. I'm actually sitting in my car right
outside of an Alexa plus event today. Because it's still
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in early access, you still have to sign up words
free right now, but there are millions of Americans who
have signed up and tried it out, and they did
find some interesting things. People seem to like it. So
some stats that they just shared with me half an
hour ago were that people are using Alexa Plus twice
as much as they did Alexa. So she's a smarter again,
a smarter Alexa were personalized three times more use when
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it comes to music playback, and five times more use
for recipes. But it's not just you know again, she
remembers things too, So if you have a dinner party,
speaking of recipes, she'll remember that. They're like, you know,
one of your sons has a an allergy and your
daughter is vegan. And when you say, hey, we're looking
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for a restaurant or we're hosting a dinner party, you
don't have to say and my daughter had, you know,
she'll remember that, you know which, again, cool and creepy
at the same time, I can tell Tiffany is not
on board with this.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
You know, I've I've.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
Been waiting for my time to jump in high Mark
quick question. Many nice chatting with you too. So it
says here as well that Alexa plus can hold long conversations.
What is there a cap on how long those conversations
can go or is it just reciprocal As long as
you're talking to Alexa, the longer she'll talk.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yep, that's right, there's no end. She is more conversational.
You do not have to keep saying her name. You
can just kick She'll remember what you just said. So
it's again, it's more like talking to a real person.
She'll again remember things for you. If you're saying, hey,
by Alex, I'm going on my trip, she'll say, don't
forget your passport is in your second drawer on the
bottom right of your you know, like stuff like that.
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She'll she'll match your tone and energy, like if you're
feeling really lazy or she'll she'll she'll just talk to you.
She won't be super like annoyingly positive about everything. She'll
kind of match your your vibe if you will. Yeah,
it's it's cool, but yeah. Yeah, so that we saw
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just more examples of that and where it's going more partnerships.
So for example, you're like, hey, I'm going to a
Lakers game at seven pm. We want to eat somewhere nearby.
What do you recommend? She'll remember that you like Mexican
for example, She'll say, how about a five forty five reservation?
It's walking distance. Can I book it for you? And
you'll say yeah, and she'll access open table. She'll say
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is it the four of you because she'll know that
you're a family of four for example, and she'll say, Okay,
it's done, and then it's in your calendar. Like it's
just it's cool. But they announce today just a few
more partnerships and it's just going to be evolving. It's
free for Prime members to start, so there's really no
you know, and you can use an older Alexa device
as far back as twenty eighteen. It could be anything.
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Even though they have new devices, new speakers and screens.
It is retroactive a bit.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
So like a horror movie, I unplug it is it's
still going to talk to me.
Speaker 10 (22:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Remember that Simpsons episode where there was like a smart
home that like got carried away. I think I don't
remember who the voice was. I think Timothy Dalton maybe anyway, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
she it's it's it's yeah. What's the segment that you
played before our art that that clip you played before
our segment every Thursday? You know something about the machines
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are taking over? Yeah, that's it, propos that's terrifying, just terrifying.
Speaker 9 (22:29):
Does this subscription with a therapy?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (22:33):
Subscription because people are gonna need it? Mark and relationships.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Tiffany Alexa is your therapist?
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Oh okay, Mark has been taken over.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
It's yeah, God, yes, you could talk to her about
yours as well. There's been some negative news about other
AI uh, you know, like chat, ChiPT and Google Gemini
serving as a therapist and giving wrong advice. That's where
you got to draw the line. And if you're a
parent listening to this and you know that your kids
are using AI, make sure that they know that they
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should not be talking to an AI about their problems
and getting advice on how to deal with their problems
from an AI agent.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
So it's, you know, maybe an awkward conversation, but something
worth bringing up at the dinner table tonight. Perhaps great.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
All right, great, Mark, thank you for everything.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
You too, have a great rest of your day.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
You Marks, also make sure you follow Mark m arc
underscore Saltzman with a Z on X. All right, more
whatever we're going to talk about when we come back.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Am six forty.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Michael Monks from KFI News has joined us. It's my
pleasure to be with you. Basics out of the way,
is it? Hey? Hi, may Or Jamie.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
I waited for him to say his name at last
week's confirmation at the city council meeting, and he said,
I may more. Then let's discuss LA new the new
LA Fire Department chief, I may Moore is pushing back
against what he says is a smear of some of
the officers in his department.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
So sorry for some of the firefighters in his department.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
That's right, and it's a very obvious departure from what
he said at that city council meeting last week. The
way it works in LA when you hire a big
department head like fire chief or police chief, the mayor
makes her announcement this is who I want, but it
has to go through the legislative process, the city Council
has to vote on it. They did that last week,
and this happened, in fact during our live out at
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the Bury in Chino Hills, and he was appearing before
the council and answered some very difficult questions about the
response to the Palisades fire and some of the subsequent
reports about the Lachman fire, including the fact that maybe
that fire was not completely extinguished and re emerged and
became the Palisades Fire. And there was some new reporting
by the La Times not long ago that said there
(24:50):
were firefighters on the scene who said, we did not
want to leave that scene. We did not believe we
should be leaving. Yet here's what he said last week
about that incident.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Tirelessly, often under unbearable conditions to protect lives, homes, and
our communities. Their bravery and professionalism are a reminder of
what this department is all about. I want them to
know that I see them, I stand with them, and
I will continue to stand up for them. At the
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same time, I recognize that we're at a crossroads not
only for our department, but for public trust. The media
attention following the January wildfires has raised real concerns both
within our ranks and across our city. I understand these concerns.
I believe that addressing them openly and honestly is essential
(25:42):
for restoring confidence in our leadership. That's why I fully
support Mayor Bass's request for a thorough independent investigation into
the department's response to the Lachman's fire.
Speaker 7 (25:52):
Okay, so it's a concern and transparency is important. He
supports Mayor Bass's call for a full review of that.
But on Tuesday this week, just a few days after
he shared those remarks, the LA Fire Commission meets. This
is a civilian appointed board that oversees the fire Department.
The police department has one as well, and his tone
and messaging completely change.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Here's what he said.
Speaker 10 (26:13):
Something that's been very frustrating for me as fire chief
and through this process, is to watch my friends in
the media samear our name and the work that our
firefighters did to combat one of the most intense fires,
the Palisades, the wind driven monstrosity that it was. It
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devastated a community in the city of Los Angeles, and
our firefighters stood out there under these horrendous conditions fighting
those fires, chasing flames as they were going three miles
down wind, trying to save people and save their homes.
Speaker 9 (26:52):
And the audacity for people to.
Speaker 11 (26:53):
Make comments and say that there's text messages out there
that says that we did not put the fire out,
that we did not extinguish the fire. Yet I have
yet to see any of those text messages.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
He hasn't seen the text messages. Now and now it
doesn't seem so concerning. It seems like this is just
the media bashing the LA Fire Department, Which is funny.
Speaker 8 (27:18):
Is Kristin Crowley not somewhere screaming her head off?
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Is she?
Speaker 9 (27:23):
Can we hear her?
Speaker 7 (27:24):
We could not hear her, but we did hear from
former LA Fire Department union president Freddy Escobar, who was
at this commission meeting. Here's what he was sorry to
do that after the break, Oh my god, promise, can
do you have a lunch date or anything? Then needs
some more news. I was gonna go write some for her,
but we can Debora can wait.
Speaker 9 (27:45):
Oh, I'm always waiting.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Ah, she's never satisfied, insatiable. I'm going to be I'll
just be over here.
Speaker 9 (27:54):
He isn't raining out there? Gary, can you I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Have a window Nope, nope, no rain yet, not in Burbank,
not in this part of burb not on that street.
There's no rain on that street just yet. We'll keep
an eye out for you. We will continue with Michael
Monks on the other side of this. Gary and Shannon
will continue right after this. You've been listening to The
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Gary and Shannon Show. You can always hear us live
on KFI AM six forty nine am to one pm
every Monday through Friday, and anytime on demand on the
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
We're finding out more about that Alhambra police officer died
after a crash at the end of a pursuit in
the Boyle Heights area. A twenty eight year old officer
had just been on the job for a few months. Awful,
and wasn't even scheduled to be working last night, but
was covering for somebody.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
So awful.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
That is one of those stories that's going to be
with us through the course of the day today and
we'll bring you updates through the CAFI newsroom. Tiffany Hobbs
in for Shannon today. Republican senators are warning Attorney General
Pam Bondy not to slow walk the release of the
Epstein files. That's where we will start our swamp watch.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar,
and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipop.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So yeah, we got the real problem is that our
leaders are done.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
The other side never quits what what, I'm not going anywhere,
So that now you train the slaw.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
You know, Americans have always been gone at President.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
They're not stupid.
Speaker 7 (01:13):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Haven't people voted for you were na swamp watch? They're
all counting on again.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
The President did sign the Epstein trans Files Transparency Act
into law that starts a clock of thirty days for
the Department of Justice to give out the information that
exists in the Epstein files.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
We talked earlier in the show.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
The forty computers, twenty six storage drives, seventy CDs, about
three hundred gigabytes of digital information, A lot of stuff,
A lot of stuff on top of the sixty pieces
of physical evidence, pictures, notes, lists, travelogs, and then of
course a large volume they say, of images of Epstein,
images and videos of victims, and over ten thousand downloaded
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videos and images of illegal child sex abuse material and
other pornography. So some of that is what will be
coming out. Obviously, they can't release all of it. Huge
meeting is coming up tomorrow. This is President Trump and
zoron Mom Donnie, the new Or, I should say the
Mayor elect of New York City.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
I view this meeting as an opportunity for me to
make my case, and I'll make that case to anyone Franklin,
as we've been doing over the course of the campaign,
and now as I will be the next mayor of
the city, it behooves me to ensure that I leave
no stone unturned and looking to make the city more affordable.
And this is a meeting where I look forward to
speaking about the affordability agenda, public safety, and economic security
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for each and every person that calls the city home.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Trump still calls him a communist.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
The last thing way it is a communist. He's a
Soto nutcap.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And in fact, last night, I'm sure this is going
to be a fine meeting. Last night on Truth Social
President Trump to talk about the meeting, wrote Communist Mayor
of New York City zoron quame. Mom, Donnie has asked
for a meeting. We have agreed that this meeting will
take place at the Oval office on Friday, November twenty.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
First, the transition team, Mam Donnie's team.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Again, he doesn't get sworn into office until I'm not
sure if it's the first of January, but I know
it's the first week. They put out a statement. It said,
as is customary for an incoming mayoral administration, the mayor
elect plans to meet with President in Washington to discuss
public safety, economic security, and the affordability agenda that over
a million New York Is voted to two weeks ago.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Blub blah.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So the announcement came after Trump did say last weekend
he wants to meet with mom Donnie so they can
work something out.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
I mean, I for one vote for this. You know,
the fighting on the White House lawn that's been proposed,
a cage fight thirty four year old Mandannie mmas seventy
nine year old President Trump.
Speaker 9 (03:58):
Let's see who can handle their own why not?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
The President did at one point threaten to deport Zest.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
He is a naturalized citizen.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
He was born in Uganda, and he wanted to Also,
the President did talk about pull pulling federal money from
the city. So he won handily. I mean, he beat
former Governor Cuomo by nine percentage points.
Speaker 8 (04:26):
I love how President Trump will just talk so much
mess about people and then meet them and shake their
hands and such a good guy.
Speaker 9 (04:35):
Great meeting and as if none of that ever happened.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well, it's and that's been his pattern is there's a
lot of bluster, there's a lot of you know, going
back and forth. Just think about the people who ran
against him in twenty sixteen. Just if that's all we did.
The only person I know that he's not made amends
with is Jeb Bush. He ripped Jeb Bush to pieces.
But everybody else that was that was either running against
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him or said bad things again. Mark he called Marco
Rubio basically a child with little hands. Yes he did,
and Marco Rubio is now his Secretary of State, among
other things. He's got like six job titles. Vance JD
Vance is another guy. Ted Cruz is another guy who's
an adamant supporter of President Trump. It's not, you know,
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one hundred percent, but it's a whole lot more than
what they were.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
You know, they were going after each other in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 8 (05:30):
I say, cage fight. Let Marjorie Taylor Green officiate. Just
make it a fun pay per view event.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
George Conway is announcing his intent to run for Congress
and is promising to be a major thorn in President
Trump's side. If elected, he's described as conservative attorney George Conway.
This is the former spouse of longtime advisor to Trump,
Kelly Ann Conway. He recently met with Democratic activists. He's
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hired Democratic polster Anna Greenberg, and he's entertained the idea
of running for the seat that is vacated by tiny
Jerry Nadler in New York. Also looking for an apartment
in that district so that he can actually qualify to
represent that district. At an event that was organized by
a liberal group called Democracy Docket, he promised that he
(06:21):
would use his time in elected office to hold Trump
administration officials legally accountable.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I can only believe that this political leaning of his.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Helped dissolve whatever beautiful marriage he had with Kelly Ann.
Speaker 9 (06:38):
Former spouse, r former spouse.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
And then finally.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Washington by way of Florida Congresswoman Sheila Sherfullis McCormick has
been indicted on charges that she was stealing COVID funds
for political purposes.
Speaker 9 (06:55):
With her brother.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Nevertheless, she and her brother Edwin worked on a staffing
contract funded by FEMA for COVID vaccinations that were tied
to their families healthcare company a few years back, and
the company was overpaid, oh five dollars, five hundred thousand dollars,
five million dollars. They were allegedly overpaid and then stole
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the overpayment allegedly and routed it through various accounts so
that it would eventually go into a reelection campaign.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
How do you think that conversation is going to go
over at Thanksgiving amongst the around the family table there,
brother and sister.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Well, we come back AI generated audio content. This is
an absolute shot across the bow of this show. Stations
like this radio people around the world. This is not
a good thing. We'll talk about that. We come back.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
We mentioned that there was a memorial service funeral today
for former Vice President Dick Cheney at the National Cathedral
there in Washington, d C. All of the living former
presidents and vice presidents I think they were I know
all the vice presidents were there. I'm not sure if
all the former presidents were there. But apparently the family,
(08:24):
the Cheney family, did not invite the sitting president or
the vice president. So just to give you an idea
that ongoing riff between the two. He has not ever
really been a fan of the Cheney's I don't know
what I mean. I don't remember what Trump thought of
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Cheney when he was the actual vice president, but obviously
the fight with Liz Cheney, Dick Cheney's daughter while she
was a congresswoman, caused a lot of that.
Speaker 9 (08:53):
So makes sense.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
I've found a thing called pocket FM.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yes, and pocket FM is what they refer to as
an audio series platform. So think audio books or podcast
story podcasts that are done in serial format like most
of them, but there's a pay aspect to it. You
got to pay sometimes per episode to listen to the
(09:22):
next chapter in the story.
Speaker 8 (09:24):
Yeah, and these stories can be as many as one
hundred chapters, so you're paying incrementally to get the next
part of the story.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
It's like a clifhanger, right.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
As opposed to a flat rate or even an audiobook
that you'd pay five ninety nine or ten whatever it is.
You got to pay per thing per episode, and there's
a concern about that. Listen, this strikes deep for me
because I've done I've done audio books, I've done voiceover work,
I've done this job for thirty years now, and there
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is a concern I have. It's not just about the
idea that someone would replace a human with an audio sorry,
an artificially created voice that's been around for a long time.
It's that you would do it without full disclosure. That's
a problem. Oh, there was. This is where it comes from.
(10:22):
They are rather than replacing human creativity.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
This is from their press release.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Rather than replacing human creativity, the company is the company
is using AI to support storytellers in scale high.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Quality audio content.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
A scale is an important word there, but they said
they're using it to support storytellers, which means if you
have an idea for a story, basically you could pump
that into AI and it'll come out with it a
thousand episode story about whatever world you want to create
or knock off of Harry Potter, knockoff of the Twilight movies,
(10:58):
or vampires or adult Roteman, whatever it is. This thing
is just going to spit out slop.
Speaker 8 (11:07):
And there was an open casting call within the last
year that this app has lived in which people voice actors,
voiceover actors were solicited to provide their expertise their talent
for pocket FM, and many of them who went to
this casting said that the pay of course was abysmal
(11:29):
and that the ownership thereafter was obsolete. So you're just
again pumping all this content out, but there's not much
to show for it.
Speaker 9 (11:41):
To me, it's very teamu uh.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
And it always one of the head of brand marketing said,
we've all we always believe that human storytelling is going
to be the core part of creativity. With AI, we're
going to be able to enhance it and scale it
with that same quality of a huge number. And to
give you an idea, there are hundreds of titles on
this thing, the app that exists already, and they all
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and each of the little tiles for the story, you know,
like the cover of the book. Basically they all look
AI general. They do because they are all AI general
and at scale. Again, I said that was an important word.
There are companies that are pumping out podcasts to the
tune of three thousand episodes a week and there's not
one lick of humanity in it. Yes, there is a
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seed that is planted by a human which is created
podcast with two people or three people that is funny,
but it talks about sperm whales. I'm sorry, yeah, but
I mean that part of it is what concerns me.
And I've said this, and I asked this question earlier
(12:50):
to you off the air, was shouldn't there be some
explanation of how much of the content is human created
or how much of the performance if in this case,
you know it's somebody reading an audiobook, how much of
that is actual a human reading that into a microphone.
Speaker 8 (13:09):
There should be And YouTube offers that with their video selections,
they have the disclaimer now that says not AI generated,
or a portion, a percentage of this is AI generated.
There are other apps that do the same. There's another
app that is a writing partner for fiction. It's called
Pseudo right, and it's all about say you're an author,
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you have an idea, you type out kind of the
idea that you have like a prompt, and this thing
will completely author a book for you. So the disclaimers
should be there as well. If not, you have people
moonlighting as authors pumping out content and it's not human generated.
Speaker 9 (13:50):
This is this is scary.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
This is a point where Okay, so if we are
if we are in the information age, right, if we
if we have ability to find every for example, every
book that's ever been published. We have the ability to
read parts of it from our pocket, I mean, with
our phones.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
We have that availability.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
The overwhelming amount of information that's about to cascade into
our brains is too much, and we have to be
able to set up signposts to welcome people like hey,
just so you know this is human created content, or
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guardrails to keep AI out of certain spaces. Listen, I
don't There are stations, radio stations, radio companies that would
love to be able to fire human beings and simply
put up AI generated shows, AI generated talk shows, everything,
and they would love to be able to do that
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because it's economical for them. It's an economic decision at
that point. But then we're just getting dumber quicker.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
I'm not saying that. I'm not I'm not, you know,
right in the Declaration of.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Independence here, every single day that I come on the air,
I got four hours to stay stupid things. I do
a pretty good job of doing that. But but if
we fall into this pattern of well, it's just a
little easier, it's just a little cheaper, it's it's it's
pretty good, you know, it's good enough.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
That's a dangerous path and.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
There's this idea of competency where that the more we
use AI created or AI generated content or tools, the
smarter we think we are, when in fact we are regressing.
But we think, oh, we're able to pump all this
out do it kind of pull the wool for people's
eyes as well. We're smart, we're getting one over, but
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in reality we are absolutely going backwards.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
You think about it.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
If I were to ask you what the population of
the Netherlands is, don't don't ask No, I wouldn't. I
would never How dare I dare I would never ask
such a question and indelicate question? I asked you the
population of the Netherlands, it would take you ten seconds
to find the answer. Whereas which is fine, But that's
(16:14):
not you're not learning anything. You may learn it for
a moment and a flash in the pan. It's in
your head, but your head didn't do the work for it.
There's no muscle memory. It's gone just as quickly as
you found it. I could ask you three days from
now with what the population of the Netherlands is, and
you go, I forgot.
Speaker 8 (16:31):
Eh, I got the jeopardy introduction wrong. You know I'm
not your best barometer right now.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
When we come back Tech Talk with Mark Saltzman.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
There is an incredibly sad visual that's coming out of
Boil Heights. There are dozens of police officers lined up
outside the hospital there waiting to escort the body of
one of their fellow officers who was killed this morning
in a high speed collision in a suspect fleeing out
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in the San Gabriel Valley. The passenger that was a
passenger in the car that was being chased was also
killed in this accident. Officer Alec Sanders joined the Alhambra
Police Department just eight months ago. He had served with
Long Beach before that, but died from his injuries at
the hospital this morning, and they're going to do the
very long, sad processional escorting his body to the coroner's office.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
So that's what's going on today.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
The top of the hour, we're going to get into
our trending stories. We're going to tell you more about
those family plans people have to come up with plans
to get through their holiday dinners. We'll do that in
the twelve o'clock hour as well. But it's time for
tech talk.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
The machines are getting smarter.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
This is tech Talk, brought to you by Skynet.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Mark Saltzman joins us to talk about tech. And I've
mentioned the commercial for Alexa plus a couple of times.
This is the Pete Davidson commercial where he's out there
asking his voice assistant about things. Maybe he should change
his name, maybe he should, And it's this very chummy
little conversation.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
And it's terrifying, terrifying.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Mark, that commercial shakes me to my core because I'm
afraid we're soon going to just lay down and let
the robots take over.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, it's a fine line, isn't it. On one hand,
the AI is getting really good, like conversational and proactive.
Instead of you having to summon Alexa with your voice,
she'll recognize your face when you walk by one of
those screens, those smart displays and say, hey, Mark, your
wife Kelly reminded wants to remind you to take out
(18:47):
the trash today. Like it's getting really good. It'll make
your dinner reservations and then add it to your calendar
for you. But then, yeah, there's that part where it's like, well,
it's great now, but where's is going? And yeah, so
it's it's a fine line indeed, but yeah, I was
at an event. I'm actually sitting in my car right
outside of an Alexa plus event today. Because it's still
(19:10):
in early access, you still have to sign up words
free right now, but there are millions of Americans who
have signed up and tried it out, and they did
find some interesting things. People seem to like it. So
some stats that they just shared with me half an
hour ago were that people are using Alexa Plus twice
as much as they did Alexa. So she's a smarter again,
a smarter Alexa were personalized three times more use when
(19:33):
it comes to music playback, and five times more use
for recipes. But it's not just you know again, she
remembers things too, So if you have a dinner party,
speaking of recipes, she'll remember that. They're like, you know,
one of your sons has a an allergy and your
daughter is vegan. And when you say, hey, we're looking
(19:53):
for a restaurant or we're hosting a dinner party, you
don't have to say and my daughter had, you know,
she'll remember that, you know which, again, cool and creepy
at the same time, I can tell Tiffany is not
on board with this.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
You know, I've I've.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
Been waiting for my time to jump in high Mark
quick question. Many nice chatting with you too. So it
says here as well that Alexa plus can hold long conversations.
What is there a cap on how long those conversations
can go or is it just reciprocal As long as
you're talking to Alexa, the longer she'll talk.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yep, that's right, there's no end. She is more conversational.
You do not have to keep saying her name. You
can just kick She'll remember what you just said. So
it's again, it's more like talking to a real person.
She'll again remember things for you. If you're saying, hey,
by Alex, I'm going on my trip, she'll say, don't
forget your passport is in your second drawer on the
bottom right of your you know, like stuff like that.
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She'll she'll match your tone and energy, like if you're
feeling really lazy or she'll she'll she'll just talk to you.
She won't be super like annoyingly positive about everything. She'll
kind of match your your vibe if you will. Yeah,
it's it's cool, but yeah. Yeah, so that we saw
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just more examples of that and where it's going more partnerships.
So for example, you're like, hey, I'm going to a
Lakers game at seven pm. We want to eat somewhere nearby.
What do you recommend? She'll remember that you like Mexican
for example, She'll say, how about a five forty five reservation?
It's walking distance. Can I book it for you? And
you'll say yeah, and she'll access open table. She'll say
(21:32):
is it the four of you because she'll know that
you're a family of four for example, and she'll say, Okay,
it's done, and then it's in your calendar. Like it's
just it's cool. But they announce today just a few
more partnerships and it's just going to be evolving. It's
free for Prime members to start, so there's really no
you know, and you can use an older Alexa device
as far back as twenty eighteen. It could be anything.
(21:53):
Even though they have new devices, new speakers and screens.
It is retroactive a bit.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
So like a horror movie, I unplug it is it's
still going to talk to me.
Speaker 10 (22:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Remember that Simpsons episode where there was like a smart
home that like got carried away. I think I don't
remember who the voice was. I think Timothy Dalton maybe anyway, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
she it's it's it's yeah. What's the segment that you
played before our art that that clip you played before
our segment every Thursday? You know something about the machines
(22:23):
are taking over? Yeah, that's it, propos that's terrifying, just terrifying.
Speaker 9 (22:29):
Does this subscription with a therapy?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (22:33):
Subscription because people are gonna need it? Mark and relationships.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Tiffany Alexa is your therapist?
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Oh okay, Mark has been taken over.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
It's yeah, God, yes, you could talk to her about
yours as well. There's been some negative news about other
AI uh, you know, like chat, ChiPT and Google Gemini
serving as a therapist and giving wrong advice. That's where
you got to draw the line. And if you're a
parent listening to this and you know that your kids
are using AI, make sure that they know that they
(23:05):
should not be talking to an AI about their problems
and getting advice on how to deal with their problems
from an AI agent.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
So it's, you know, maybe an awkward conversation, but something
worth bringing up at the dinner table tonight. Perhaps great.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
All right, great, Mark, thank you for everything.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
You too, have a great rest of your day.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
You Marks, also make sure you follow Mark m arc
underscore Saltzman with a Z on X. All right, more
whatever we're going to talk about when we come back.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Am six forty.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Michael Monks from KFI News has joined us. It's my
pleasure to be with you. Basics out of the way,
is it? Hey? Hi, may Or Jamie.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
I waited for him to say his name at last
week's confirmation at the city council meeting, and he said,
I may more. Then let's discuss LA new the new
LA Fire Department chief, I may Moore is pushing back
against what he says is a smear of some of
the officers in his department.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
So sorry for some of the firefighters in his department.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
That's right, and it's a very obvious departure from what
he said at that city council meeting last week. The
way it works in LA when you hire a big
department head like fire chief or police chief, the mayor
makes her announcement this is who I want, but it
has to go through the legislative process, the city Council
has to vote on it. They did that last week,
and this happened, in fact during our live out at
(24:28):
the Bury in Chino Hills, and he was appearing before
the council and answered some very difficult questions about the
response to the Palisades fire and some of the subsequent
reports about the Lachman fire, including the fact that maybe
that fire was not completely extinguished and re emerged and
became the Palisades Fire. And there was some new reporting
by the La Times not long ago that said there
(24:50):
were firefighters on the scene who said, we did not
want to leave that scene. We did not believe we
should be leaving. Yet here's what he said last week
about that incident.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Tirelessly, often under unbearable conditions to protect lives, homes, and
our communities. Their bravery and professionalism are a reminder of
what this department is all about. I want them to
know that I see them, I stand with them, and
I will continue to stand up for them. At the
(25:21):
same time, I recognize that we're at a crossroads not
only for our department, but for public trust. The media
attention following the January wildfires has raised real concerns both
within our ranks and across our city. I understand these concerns.
I believe that addressing them openly and honestly is essential
(25:42):
for restoring confidence in our leadership. That's why I fully
support Mayor Bass's request for a thorough independent investigation into
the department's response to the Lachman's fire.
Speaker 7 (25:52):
Okay, so it's a concern and transparency is important. He
supports Mayor Bass's call for a full review of that.
But on Tuesday this week, just a few days after
he shared those remarks, the LA Fire Commission meets. This
is a civilian appointed board that oversees the fire Department.
The police department has one as well, and his tone
and messaging completely change.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Here's what he said.
Speaker 10 (26:13):
Something that's been very frustrating for me as fire chief
and through this process, is to watch my friends in
the media samear our name and the work that our
firefighters did to combat one of the most intense fires,
the Palisades, the wind driven monstrosity that it was. It
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devastated a community in the city of Los Angeles, and
our firefighters stood out there under these horrendous conditions fighting
those fires, chasing flames as they were going three miles
down wind, trying to save people and save their homes.
Speaker 9 (26:52):
And the audacity for people to.
Speaker 11 (26:53):
Make comments and say that there's text messages out there
that says that we did not put the fire out,
that we did not extinguish the fire. Yet I have
yet to see any of those text messages.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
He hasn't seen the text messages. Now and now it
doesn't seem so concerning. It seems like this is just
the media bashing the LA Fire Department, Which is funny.
Speaker 8 (27:18):
Is Kristin Crowley not somewhere screaming her head off?
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Is she?
Speaker 9 (27:23):
Can we hear her?
Speaker 7 (27:24):
We could not hear her, but we did hear from
former LA Fire Department union president Freddy Escobar, who was
at this commission meeting. Here's what he was sorry to
do that after the break, Oh my god, promise, can
do you have a lunch date or anything? Then needs
some more news. I was gonna go write some for her,
but we can Debora can wait.
Speaker 9 (27:45):
Oh, I'm always waiting.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Ah, she's never satisfied, insatiable. I'm going to be I'll
just be over here.
Speaker 9 (27:54):
He isn't raining out there? Gary, can you I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Have a window Nope, nope, no rain yet, not in Burbank,
not in this part of burb not on that street.
There's no rain on that street just yet. We'll keep
an eye out for you. We will continue with Michael
Monks on the other side of this. Gary and Shannon
will continue right after this. You've been listening to The
(28:17):
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