May 20, 2025 • 28 mins
Gary and Shannon are reporting the latest news from Washington, D.C. Experience those electrifying A-Ha moments that spark a physical transformation, leaving a lasting impression far beyond the ordinary. Don’t miss out on these unforgettable highlights! #TerrorInTheSkies.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
A M six forty, The Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It's time for swamp Watch. I'm a politician, which means
I'm a cheat and a liar, and when I'm not
kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Here we got.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
The real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
So what I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
So now now you train the squat.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been. You know, Murvans have always been going
at President. They're not stupid.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
A political plunder is what a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Have the people voting for you were not swamp watch?
They're all counterned.
Speaker 6 (00:41):
Well.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
President Trump was on Capitol Hill today to try to
deliver a message to House Republicans ahead of the vote
on this massive bill for his domestic agenda. He wants
them to stop fighting. He wants them to get this
thing passed as soon as possible. In a closed door
meeting that took place, the President spoke afterwards. Hear from
him in a second The President took aim at a
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block of Republicans who have been pushing for a higher
cap on the deduction that their constituents can take for
state and local taxes. It's known as salt. He's also
warning conservative hardliners against the deep cuts to Medicaid. This
comes as at a I guess you would argue a
critical time for the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson,
who is trying to steer the party line. He's trying
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to trying to make everybody happy here. This multi trillion
dollar bill would be one of the largest bills ever
passed by Congress, just in sheer size, in terms of
the money that it that it's that it deals with.
After the meeting, President Trump came out and said, everyone's happy.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
No shouting.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
There was no shouting that I think it was a
meeting of love. There were a couple of things that
we talked about.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Specifically where some people felt a little bit one way
or the other not a big deal, and I covered them.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But it wasn't so much a speech.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I covered certain points.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Car Samenez out of New York, Florida, Sorry, Florida Congressman
UH Republican had said that this issue of the state
and local taxes, which has been one of the main
sticking points, is going to be workout. He says, they
they will find some some common ground on it.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Well, we will find the middle ground, uh for that
will satisfy those in the blue states, uh that you
know are asking for the an additional you know, state
and local tax deduction, uh, and those that want the
more spending cuts. Again, these are these are issues around
the edges.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
UH.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
They're not the main part of this bill.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
And UH.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
And so I am confident that we will find uh
that that sweet spot. You know, Speaker Speaker Johnson has
a great ability of getting people together, is well respected
by everybody, and you know in our conference.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
So that issue of these state and local tax deductions
that right now, it would boost the salt cap up
to thirty thousand dollars that you can deduct from your
federal taxes based on the state and local taxes that
you pay as much up to thirty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Currently it's at ten thousand.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Pro salt Republicans say that that is way too low,
and Trump says, hey, you gotta let it go. He
specifically went after Mike Lawler, a Republican out of New York,
who could potentially be running for governor by the way,
and he said, end it, Mike, just end it. According
to at least a couple of the lawmakers who saw this,
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Nick Laloda, also in New York, said we need a
little more salt on the table to get to yes.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Specifically.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
He also Trump apparently said to Lawler, if you, he said,
I know your district better than you do, and if
you lose because of salt, you were going to lose anyway.
One of the others that he's going after is Thomas Massey,
Republican congressman out of Kentucky, who can't be told to
do anything. This is a guy, I guess you would
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say in the in the vein of the senator from
his state in Kentucky, of Rand Paul, who is not
going to toe the party line. If he doesn't, he doesn't,
He doesn't tow the party line just to tow the
party line. Thomas Massey is a giant no on this
more because of the deficit spending than any other issue.
He thinks that we can't continue to spend our way
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into oblivion. That's what Thomas Massey has said and he's
been a no on other bills before that have spent
a lot of money. Trump told reporters that Massey should
be voted out of office and that other reconciliation opponents
should be should possibly face primary challenges. Of course, Thomas
Massey doesn't care what the President says and is still
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a no. He's not going to be threatened and has
stood up to Trump before, so that's not a giant surprise.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Hey.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Coming up at noon, President Trump is also expected to
unveil plans for an iron dome system here in the
United States.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
He would call it.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
The Golden Dome in order to protect the United States
from any threat of missiles coming in from North Korea
or elsewhere. It's very similar to if you're old enough
to remember, the Star Wars program. Experts say it could
cost The Golden Dome program could cost anywhere from tens
of billions to hundreds of billions, depending on how it
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is set up, how thorough it is. Trump's going to
be joined by the Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and
General Michael Goutline, the vice chair a vice chief of
Space Operations for the Pentagon. He is the one that's
being asked to lead the Golden Dome project, so that's
coming up at noon today. Up next, we'll be talking
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about what your brain does in those AHA moments. But
a quick question. There's a study that came out. We're
going to talk about it more tomorrow when we get
into parenting issues with Justin Warsham when he comes along.
But children and teenagers of any age who sip or
taste alcohol with their parents' permission, that's a key, are
more likely to engage in risky drinking in young adulthood.
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Did you did you drink with your parents' permission when
you were underage? Or do you allow your kids to
drink if they're not twenty one? And what impact do
you think that made on your kids? Leave us a
talkback message. Hit that little button as you're listening on
the app and send us a quick message. Do you
drink underage? Did you drink underage? Do you allow your
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kids to drink underage? And what's you're thinking behind that?
So we'll talk about that a little bit later and
then rejoin it revisit it tomorrow as well. The AHA
moments look different in your brain. We'll talk about those
aha moments we come back.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
You ever have one of those moments when you are
trying to solve a puzzle, or maybe something as simple
as watching a TV show a murder mystery, and you
figure out who did it before they tell you who
did it. There was a study that came out of
Duke University in the University of Berlin that talked about
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these light bulb moments, these Aha moments when a solution
suddenly clicks in your head and it shows it's not
just it's just not just satisfying that you solved this puzzle,
whatever it was, that there's an actual physical change that
goes on in your brain and how it processes that
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information and then stores that information and makes that kind
of an Aha moment that solution so much more memorable
than something that you just learn over time that's repeated,
they said. They the researchers referred to these as Eureka
moments and why we tend to remember the solutions that
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we came to through sudden insight as opposed to stuff
that we learned through routine methods. New study Nature communications.
If you get your local checkout after you're done looking
at the classifieds. It came out this week's Nature Just Communications.
During this experiment, they participants tried to identify objects in
abstract black and white images they're called mooney images while
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they were inside and MRI scanner. And after they identified
each job object, they rated how suddenly the solution came
to them, how certain they felt about their answer, and
about how positive they felt about solving it. And then
about five days later they would ask participants to remember
those solutions, and they said that those solutions discovered with
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the high level of insight AHA, that kind of insight
were remembered about twice as well as those that found
through gradual recognition. Something in there triggers your brain to
store it in a specific area that gives it more
importance than something you would learn over a routine, certain
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routine in your life. The brain scans revealed that during
those moments, visual processing areas showed mark changes in how
they represented information. And at the same time you get
emotional about it, your emotional center in the amygdala and
the hippocampus become more active and better synchronized with that
visual area that you're in and that when we experience
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the high levels of insight again the aha, the Eureka moments,
there are stronger shifts in the activation patterns within the
brain regions that process solution relevant information, particularly the visual
cortext for visual problems. These areas work very closely in
the brain's emotional and memory systems and that form that
interconnected network. I know it's not Thursday, it's not strange science,
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but this is an important thing, and they said it
is very important for low earning as well, because outside
of just the you know, the rote practice. Think I
don't know, multiplication tables when you're in elementary school. If
you can find a way to teach a kid an
elementary school a way to work out the mathematical problems
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to an AHA moment as opposed to just practicing them,
then sometimes those will stick better than the regular routine
practice of here you go, this is what your times
tables are going to be, and this is how you
memorize them. So that's that's good. You can always leave
us a talk back message. Just sit that little microphone
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button while you're listening on the iHeart app. I mean,
my wife did it, so I guess everybody gets.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Jim, I'm just trying to follow your instructions.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
Did you want beef or salmon tonight?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Thank you? Jim, I said beef.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Actually, hey, Gary, you know the Boles man of secrets.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I thought maybe you were coming over to my house.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Tonight forploy.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And a hot dog?
Speaker 6 (11:09):
What?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Okay, don't play that.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
That was horrible.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
That was really a joke just for me.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Well now you shared it with everybody, Gary bro Yeah,
that message from your wife wasn't hey, you know what
do you want for dinners?
Speaker 4 (11:20):
More like?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Why?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And I am the show? And Shannon's out there? Because
their two days when you guys are by yourself, you're
a kind of hard to listen. You guys are too newsy,
you know what I mean? So just an idea, have
a good day? Are you my wife's agent?
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Now?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Is that? That's what I don't quite understand?
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (11:37):
The Shannon's out today. She will be back on Friday
for our news and Bruise. We're going to be live
at Bravery Brewing in Lancaster and we would love it
if you would come on out there. Great way to
kick off Memorial Day weekend. We have some surprises that
we've got going on. We have some stuff that we're
going to be giving away. Bart from Bravery is going
to be giving some swag away. They've got Bravery's kf Ips,
(12:00):
the beer that they've rooted for us. Again, slightly different
recipe this time, but he already tasted it and said
it's already fantastic. The Bravery Pizza Kitchen will be open
and they'll be serving lunch, et cetera, so you can
go on out there and get the Gary and Shannon
Show pizza. We'll tell you on Friday what's going to
be on that pizza. And then the best part about it,
I think is not only you get to hang out
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watch the show on the patio at a great place
in great Weather. After the show, after the live show,
we're going to be recording the Gas Weekend Fix, which
is the podcast that shows up on Saturday mornings. We'll
be recording it live in front of everybody that's there.
So it'd be a great time for you to go
on out and meet us, hang out, have a great time,
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and take part in that podcast that we record.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Right after that.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
All right, a whole series of Tearing the Sky stories
to get to.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
We'll talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand KFI.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
The FAA confirmed that yet another system outage occurred at
the facility that handles flights in and out of Newark
Liberty International Airport. And why not that's where we begin
our Terror in the Skies.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Flights to zero niner orlayer for day off, Roger, get
off my plane, Roderick Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
What's our Victor?
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Victor?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
En is enough?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I have a hand to put these munkey fight and
snakes on this money. It's Gary and Shannon's Terror in
the Skies on KFI.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
So the FAA is investigating a brief radio system outage
at the Philly Air Traffic Control Center that is responsible
for handling flights at Newark International Newark Liberty International Airport.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
There in New Jersey.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
This is not good. It doesn't get much better when
I play the sound for you.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I thought United had cleared well before that. Stare for
a moment and I'm got to get together United and
in the way we'll get you up for the owent man.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Why does he have to get the other United out
of the way? Oh, I don't know. Because the radio
went out.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Lost the radar frequency again.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
The FAA said the control tower lost radio frequencies for
two seconds yesterday morning at about eleven thirty New Jersey time.
Despite that, everything remained safely separated.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
There were no big deals.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
But this is the fourth time since April twenty eighth,
the fourth time that there has been a system outage
of some duration at the Philly Air Traffic Control Center
that's responding for these responsible for these flights to come
into Newark. After the April incident, there was a second
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outage on May ninth that interrupted communications for about ninety seconds.
There were more flight disruptions. There was a third outage
two days after that which halted flights. Staffing shortages linked
to the April incident led to white spread delays. They've
been having construction issues with that Newark airport that we've
told you about many times. In the first couple of incidents,
both April twenty eighth and in May ninth, they had
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really bad weather. It was very overcast and foggy in
that area, so they had other natural delays that were
going to occur. Sean Duffy is the Secretary of Transportation.
He said earlier this month that we are in the
midst of upgrading our air traffic control system, but it
is going to take some time. They include updating the
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system with new software, with new equipment, and he says
that this revamp is going to cost tens of billions
of dollars. Right now, we know that the FAA system
relies on technology that was outdated before I graduated from
high school, and that in some cases the FAA has
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had to resort to buying equipment on eBay, replacement parts
on eBay, or even making them on their own using
three D printers because some new components are unavailable for
that same outdated equipment. Obviously, there are problems with the
shortage of air traffic controllers in the US. More than
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ninety percent of the nation's airport towers are considered to
be inadequately staffed. They fall short of standards that were
set by the working group from the FAA and the
Controllers Union that put them together. So no word today
on an outage near Newark, but not good because yet
another one has prompted problems and delays and they will
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continue at Newark for some time. Nearby up in that
same area, there was a close call at LaGuardia Airport
between two commercial jets currently under investigation by the FAA
and NTSP. This is one of many of the close calls,
the go arounds, and the accidents that has prompted calls
for changes to that aviation system, not just air traffic control,
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but the way the FAA operates on a very general basis.
So this happened right about twelve thirty in the morning
on May sixth, and air traffic controller canceled the takeoff
clearance for American Eagle flight forty seven thirty six because
a United flight was taxing on that same runway, so
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he had to yell. The controller had to yell brickyard
forty seven thirty six stop Brickyard is the call sign
they use for Republic airways, and then rejected takeoff runway thirteen.
Said the pilot, sorry about that. I thought United had
cleared well before that, according to the controller. So the
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United flight that was coming in that evening from Houston
carrying one hundred and seven passenger six crew members, the
planes were about a quarter mile apart when the flight
that was taking off hit the brakes, and the FAA
said it's also investigating another like I said, radio outage
at Newark. These close calls like this, yeah, they happen.
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One way I heard it to describe today is they
need to stop calling them near misses, because that makes
it sound like they were separated. But if you called it,
if you just changed the nomenclature, if all you did
was say we had a near hit at LaGuardia, that
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it would have changed pretty significantly and in fact, would
make people think differently about how dire.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
The situation is.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
When it comes to the tens of thousands of flights
that operate throughout the United just the United States, the
tens of thousands of flights that operate in the United
States each and every day, how many of these close
calls are there? I'm surprised there are not more. But again,
some instances like this one, today's the ninth, today's the twentieth,
and we're only finding out about it two weeks later.
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Unless you were the pilot or the air traffic controller,
this stuff isn't advertised very often. So that's just a
couple of the of the stories. There are a couple more,
a couple more terror in the Sky stories. One of
them is actually a love story, Love in the skies,
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and one is a door dash story, which doesn't make
sense because you would think, what does a door dash
driver have to do with the terror in the skies.
But we'll tell you more about that coming up. Also,
taking your talkbacks, did you drink as a kid?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
I don't mean.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
That to be flippant, but there's a study out that
talks about how it is people respond when they're allowed
to drink alcohol with their parents as a teenager or
a kid, what that does to them in terms of
predictions about their future behavior.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Hi, guys, I've got six kids and I've always let
them taste alcoholic beverages. We've never been big alcohol drinkers
in my household, although you know, I ran the when
I was a kid. But all of my kids have
found that they disliked the taste of alcohol, and that's
the reason I let them try it, so that they
don't like it, so then as they grew older they
don't care for it. At least that's been my experience.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Yeah, that's experienced for a lot of people. Some people
had said that their parents were teetotalers and they never drank.
Others said that they grew up in an alcoholic family,
so that was always available to them and they just
fell out of love with it because they saw what
was what it was doing to their adults in the house,
to their relatives, to mom, to dad, to whatever. So
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leave us your talk back. If you're listening on the app,
hit that little microphone button. And if you were allowed
to drink when you were a teenager, did it effect
the way that you handled alcohol in the future or
do you allow your kids to do it? You allow
your kids to drink alcohol with permission. We'll talk about
all of that later on in the show. We'll also
revisit it tomorrow with Justin Warsham. We do our parenting
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segment more in the skies though. Right around the corner you're.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
We were asking for talkbacks of your experience. Did you
allow your kids to drink when they were teenagers or
did you drink as a teenager and how it affected
how you looked at alcohol for the rest of your life.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
I have to assume Child Protective Services is listening to
these phone calls. No, that's what I'm going to refrain
from talking about my alcoholic tendencies in my childhood.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Okay, have a good one, Gary, Well, if it was
your childhood, there's not much they're going to be doing
about it now.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
So the other thing is, no, they're not, No, they
are not.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
We're in the midst of an extended terror in the
skies segment today, we talked about so those near misses
that had happened, one of them at LaGuardia just a
couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
What's up, Gary, justin here from Riverside, a former flight
instructor and was just listening to terror in the skies
or talking about that near miss on the runway, And
we call those runway incursions and they do, indeed have
different categories by the FA, so A through D for
severity A which is like a near myst that was
actually narrowly avoided, to D, which was just there was
an aircraft or vehicle where they shouldn't have been, which,
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like you said, would be helpful to categorize those customer
severe and some are not, but they all have been
publicized quite a bit lately.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Justin thank you for that. Appreciated.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
But speaking of here's an incursion a car where it
shouldn't have been On Saturday, a door Dash driver made
his way onto Chicago O'Hare International Airport grounds. Now I'm
not talking about driving through the terminal. I mean through
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a restricted area, and they said may have accidentally driven
over taxiways while trying to find his way back out
of the airport. Thirty six year old driver making a delivery,
he accessed the airside areas, how they referred to it.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
And you know who caught him or you know who
noticed him.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
The air traffic controllers in the tower saw this unauthorized
vehicle making its way through secured parts of the airport.
They may have crossed multiple internal roads and potentially even
taxiways before they were noticed by the air traffic controllers.
Airport authorities were able to intercept this guy. They questioned him.
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He said he was completely there by mistake, no big deal,
accidentally drove to within that secured area, no malicious intent,
no charges, no citations anything. Door Dash also had to
come out. They acknowledged the event. They're actively reviewing the
details around exactly what happened. This is not the first
time that this has happened. Amazingly, you drive around Lax,
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you drive around Burbank, It's hard to find a place
to get in that even looks like you could get
in if you're unless you're going through the normal concourse
in front of the airport. A former air traffic controller
said that this was pretty frightening. This guy also flew
business jets. Emphasized how dangerous it could have been because
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he says, imagine if this had been at night. Imagine
if this was harder for air traffic controllers to identify
that as an unauthorized vehicle. Yeah, you got headlines rolling around,
but you got headlights for other vehicles that are traveling
within that airside portion of the airport that are fine.
Headlights all look the same in the dark, he said,
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And it could have been really, really bad. Chicago's major
airports experienced several similar breaches. In April of last year,
a city owned vehicle went on an active taxiway at
O'Hare without prior clearance that prompted a near miss, if
you want to call it that an incursion with a
regional aircraft. That was one of at least three runway
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or taxiway access violations involving ground vehicles at O'Hare during
that year. Chicago Midway there was just in February Chicago midway,
there was a flex Jet Challenger three point fifty business
jet that crossed an active runway without authorization and if
you remember that, that forced a Southwest flight to abort
its landing just a few seconds before a touchdown. But okay,
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let's send the terrans in the skies with a positive story. Shally,
there's a woman from Ohio who's.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Had a chance encounter with a handsome pilot.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
If you will, Tanya is her name, not even going
to try her last name because it doesn't make sense.
It's just a bunch of letters, she says. Every time
I tell the story, people think I'm making it up.
She's flying home with her family to Cleveland. She catches
this guy checking her out while she's at the airport
in Charlotte, North Carolina. Sees that this guy has a
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pilot's uniform on Hello, and that he's a head taller
than everybody else.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Hello.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
She didn't think anything of it until she gets onto
her flight Frontier and sees that this guy, Wesley, was
on the same plane as he was in uniform. She
initially thought, oh, that's our pilot, realized he was actually
off duty. He's just deadheading to a different flight headed
to Ohio. He gave Tanya's nephew a wave as she
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was carrying the kid down the aisle to her seat
toward the back of the plane. She then didn't interact
with him for the rest of the flight until they land,
when he approaches her with a note, She said, I'm
sitting in a row towards the back. About twenty minutes
before landing. I got a tap on my shoulder and
it's that guy handing me a napkin.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I made my mom and my sister read. At first,
I was freaking out.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
This message read again, written on a napkin of a
Frontier airline's flight. Hi, I'm sure you get notes like
this all the time, but I would love to take
you out to dinner and get to know you.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
If that's something you'd be up for, let me know,
and then he dropped his digits.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
She later learned the pilot had never asked out anyone before,
let alone somebody on a plane, and had to be
hyped up by one of the flight attendants who helped
him right on the napkin.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
She said.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
She texted the guy the next day and they have
been together ever.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Since so.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
You can find love in the air twelve o'clock hour
when we come back, not only have we got more
information about the trending stories, we have a couple of
true crime stories to get to, including how the crypto
bros Are going after each other. Nothing like a little
physical assault to make you feel better about your crypto farming.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
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Have the people voting for you were not swamp watch?
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Well.
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President Trump was on Capitol Hill today to try to
deliver a message to House Republicans ahead of the vote
on this massive bill for his domestic agenda. He wants
them to stop fighting. He wants them to get this
thing passed as soon as possible. In a closed door
meeting that took place, the President spoke afterwards. Hear from
him in a second The President took aim at a
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block of Republicans who have been pushing for a higher
cap on the deduction that their constituents can take for
state and local taxes. It's known as salt. He's also
warning conservative hardliners against the deep cuts to Medicaid. This
comes as at a I guess you would argue a
critical time for the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson,
who is trying to steer the party line. He's trying
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to trying to make everybody happy here. This multi trillion
dollar bill would be one of the largest bills ever
passed by Congress, just in sheer size, in terms of
the money that it that it's that it deals with.
After the meeting, President Trump came out and said, everyone's happy.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
No shouting.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
There was no shouting that I think it was a
meeting of love. There were a couple of things that
we talked about.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Specifically where some people felt a little bit one way
or the other not a big deal, and I covered them.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But it wasn't so much a speech.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I covered certain points.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Car Samenez out of New York, Florida, Sorry, Florida Congressman
UH Republican had said that this issue of the state
and local taxes, which has been one of the main
sticking points, is going to be workout. He says, they
they will find some some common ground on it.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Well, we will find the middle ground, uh for that
will satisfy those in the blue states, uh that you
know are asking for the an additional you know, state
and local tax deduction, uh, and those that want the
more spending cuts. Again, these are these are issues around
the edges.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
UH.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
They're not the main part of this bill.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
And UH.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
And so I am confident that we will find uh
that that sweet spot. You know, Speaker Speaker Johnson has
a great ability of getting people together, is well respected
by everybody, and you know in our conference.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
So that issue of these state and local tax deductions
that right now, it would boost the salt cap up
to thirty thousand dollars that you can deduct from your
federal taxes based on the state and local taxes that
you pay as much up to thirty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Currently it's at ten thousand.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Pro salt Republicans say that that is way too low,
and Trump says, hey, you gotta let it go. He
specifically went after Mike Lawler, a Republican out of New York,
who could potentially be running for governor by the way,
and he said, end it, Mike, just end it. According
to at least a couple of the lawmakers who saw this,
(03:36):
Nick Laloda, also in New York, said we need a
little more salt on the table to get to yes.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Specifically.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
He also Trump apparently said to Lawler, if you, he said,
I know your district better than you do, and if
you lose because of salt, you were going to lose anyway.
One of the others that he's going after is Thomas Massey,
Republican congressman out of Kentucky, who can't be told to
do anything. This is a guy, I guess you would
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say in the in the vein of the senator from
his state in Kentucky, of Rand Paul, who is not
going to toe the party line. If he doesn't, he doesn't,
He doesn't tow the party line just to tow the
party line. Thomas Massey is a giant no on this
more because of the deficit spending than any other issue.
He thinks that we can't continue to spend our way
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into oblivion. That's what Thomas Massey has said and he's
been a no on other bills before that have spent
a lot of money. Trump told reporters that Massey should
be voted out of office and that other reconciliation opponents
should be should possibly face primary challenges. Of course, Thomas
Massey doesn't care what the President says and is still
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a no. He's not going to be threatened and has
stood up to Trump before, so that's not a giant surprise.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Hey.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Coming up at noon, President Trump is also expected to
unveil plans for an iron dome system here in the
United States.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
He would call it.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
The Golden Dome in order to protect the United States
from any threat of missiles coming in from North Korea
or elsewhere. It's very similar to if you're old enough
to remember, the Star Wars program. Experts say it could
cost The Golden Dome program could cost anywhere from tens
of billions to hundreds of billions, depending on how it
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is set up, how thorough it is. Trump's going to
be joined by the Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and
General Michael Goutline, the vice chair a vice chief of
Space Operations for the Pentagon. He is the one that's
being asked to lead the Golden Dome project, so that's
coming up at noon today. Up next, we'll be talking
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about what your brain does in those AHA moments. But
a quick question. There's a study that came out. We're
going to talk about it more tomorrow when we get
into parenting issues with Justin Warsham when he comes along.
But children and teenagers of any age who sip or
taste alcohol with their parents' permission, that's a key, are
more likely to engage in risky drinking in young adulthood.
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Did you did you drink with your parents' permission when
you were underage? Or do you allow your kids to
drink if they're not twenty one? And what impact do
you think that made on your kids? Leave us a
talkback message. Hit that little button as you're listening on
the app and send us a quick message. Do you
drink underage? Did you drink underage? Do you allow your
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kids to drink underage? And what's you're thinking behind that?
So we'll talk about that a little bit later and
then rejoin it revisit it tomorrow as well. The AHA
moments look different in your brain. We'll talk about those
aha moments we come back.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
You ever have one of those moments when you are
trying to solve a puzzle, or maybe something as simple
as watching a TV show a murder mystery, and you
figure out who did it before they tell you who
did it. There was a study that came out of
Duke University in the University of Berlin that talked about
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these light bulb moments, these Aha moments when a solution
suddenly clicks in your head and it shows it's not
just it's just not just satisfying that you solved this puzzle,
whatever it was, that there's an actual physical change that
goes on in your brain and how it processes that
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information and then stores that information and makes that kind
of an Aha moment that solution so much more memorable
than something that you just learn over time that's repeated,
they said. They the researchers referred to these as Eureka
moments and why we tend to remember the solutions that
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we came to through sudden insight as opposed to stuff
that we learned through routine methods. New study Nature communications.
If you get your local checkout after you're done looking
at the classifieds. It came out this week's Nature Just Communications.
During this experiment, they participants tried to identify objects in
abstract black and white images they're called mooney images while
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they were inside and MRI scanner. And after they identified
each job object, they rated how suddenly the solution came
to them, how certain they felt about their answer, and
about how positive they felt about solving it. And then
about five days later they would ask participants to remember
those solutions, and they said that those solutions discovered with
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the high level of insight AHA, that kind of insight
were remembered about twice as well as those that found
through gradual recognition. Something in there triggers your brain to
store it in a specific area that gives it more
importance than something you would learn over a routine, certain
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routine in your life. The brain scans revealed that during
those moments, visual processing areas showed mark changes in how
they represented information. And at the same time you get
emotional about it, your emotional center in the amygdala and
the hippocampus become more active and better synchronized with that
visual area that you're in and that when we experience
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the high levels of insight again the aha, the Eureka moments,
there are stronger shifts in the activation patterns within the
brain regions that process solution relevant information, particularly the visual
cortext for visual problems. These areas work very closely in
the brain's emotional and memory systems and that form that
interconnected network. I know it's not Thursday, it's not strange science,
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but this is an important thing, and they said it
is very important for low earning as well, because outside
of just the you know, the rote practice. Think I
don't know, multiplication tables when you're in elementary school. If
you can find a way to teach a kid an
elementary school a way to work out the mathematical problems
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to an AHA moment as opposed to just practicing them,
then sometimes those will stick better than the regular routine
practice of here you go, this is what your times
tables are going to be, and this is how you
memorize them. So that's that's good. You can always leave
us a talk back message. Just sit that little microphone
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button while you're listening on the iHeart app. I mean,
my wife did it, so I guess everybody gets.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Jim, I'm just trying to follow your instructions.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
Did you want beef or salmon tonight?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Thank you? Jim, I said beef.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Actually, hey, Gary, you know the Boles man of secrets.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I thought maybe you were coming over to my house.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Tonight forploy.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And a hot dog?
Speaker 6 (11:09):
What?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Okay, don't play that.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
That was horrible.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
That was really a joke just for me.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Well now you shared it with everybody, Gary bro Yeah,
that message from your wife wasn't hey, you know what
do you want for dinners?
Speaker 4 (11:20):
More like?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Why?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And I am the show? And Shannon's out there? Because
their two days when you guys are by yourself, you're
a kind of hard to listen. You guys are too newsy,
you know what I mean? So just an idea, have
a good day? Are you my wife's agent?
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Now?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Is that? That's what I don't quite understand?
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (11:37):
The Shannon's out today. She will be back on Friday
for our news and Bruise. We're going to be live
at Bravery Brewing in Lancaster and we would love it
if you would come on out there. Great way to
kick off Memorial Day weekend. We have some surprises that
we've got going on. We have some stuff that we're
going to be giving away. Bart from Bravery is going
to be giving some swag away. They've got Bravery's kf Ips,
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the beer that they've rooted for us. Again, slightly different
recipe this time, but he already tasted it and said
it's already fantastic. The Bravery Pizza Kitchen will be open
and they'll be serving lunch, et cetera, so you can
go on out there and get the Gary and Shannon
Show pizza. We'll tell you on Friday what's going to
be on that pizza. And then the best part about it,
I think is not only you get to hang out
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watch the show on the patio at a great place
in great Weather. After the show, after the live show,
we're going to be recording the Gas Weekend Fix, which
is the podcast that shows up on Saturday mornings. We'll
be recording it live in front of everybody that's there.
So it'd be a great time for you to go
on out and meet us, hang out, have a great time,
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and take part in that podcast that we record.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Right after that.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
All right, a whole series of Tearing the Sky stories
to get to.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
We'll talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand KFI.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
The FAA confirmed that yet another system outage occurred at
the facility that handles flights in and out of Newark
Liberty International Airport. And why not that's where we begin
our Terror in the Skies.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Flights to zero niner orlayer for day off, Roger, get
off my plane, Roderick Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
What's our Victor?
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Victor?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
En is enough?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I have a hand to put these munkey fight and
snakes on this money. It's Gary and Shannon's Terror in
the Skies on KFI.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
So the FAA is investigating a brief radio system outage
at the Philly Air Traffic Control Center that is responsible
for handling flights at Newark International Newark Liberty International Airport.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
There in New Jersey.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
This is not good. It doesn't get much better when
I play the sound for you.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I thought United had cleared well before that. Stare for
a moment and I'm got to get together United and
in the way we'll get you up for the owent man.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Why does he have to get the other United out
of the way? Oh, I don't know. Because the radio
went out.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Lost the radar frequency again.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
The FAA said the control tower lost radio frequencies for
two seconds yesterday morning at about eleven thirty New Jersey time.
Despite that, everything remained safely separated.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
There were no big deals.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
But this is the fourth time since April twenty eighth,
the fourth time that there has been a system outage
of some duration at the Philly Air Traffic Control Center
that's responding for these responsible for these flights to come
into Newark. After the April incident, there was a second
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outage on May ninth that interrupted communications for about ninety seconds.
There were more flight disruptions. There was a third outage
two days after that which halted flights. Staffing shortages linked
to the April incident led to white spread delays. They've
been having construction issues with that Newark airport that we've
told you about many times. In the first couple of incidents,
both April twenty eighth and in May ninth, they had
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really bad weather. It was very overcast and foggy in
that area, so they had other natural delays that were
going to occur. Sean Duffy is the Secretary of Transportation.
He said earlier this month that we are in the
midst of upgrading our air traffic control system, but it
is going to take some time. They include updating the
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system with new software, with new equipment, and he says
that this revamp is going to cost tens of billions
of dollars. Right now, we know that the FAA system
relies on technology that was outdated before I graduated from
high school, and that in some cases the FAA has
(15:52):
had to resort to buying equipment on eBay, replacement parts
on eBay, or even making them on their own using
three D printers because some new components are unavailable for
that same outdated equipment. Obviously, there are problems with the
shortage of air traffic controllers in the US. More than
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ninety percent of the nation's airport towers are considered to
be inadequately staffed. They fall short of standards that were
set by the working group from the FAA and the
Controllers Union that put them together. So no word today
on an outage near Newark, but not good because yet
another one has prompted problems and delays and they will
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continue at Newark for some time. Nearby up in that
same area, there was a close call at LaGuardia Airport
between two commercial jets currently under investigation by the FAA
and NTSP. This is one of many of the close calls,
the go arounds, and the accidents that has prompted calls
for changes to that aviation system, not just air traffic control,
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but the way the FAA operates on a very general basis.
So this happened right about twelve thirty in the morning
on May sixth, and air traffic controller canceled the takeoff
clearance for American Eagle flight forty seven thirty six because
a United flight was taxing on that same runway, so
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he had to yell. The controller had to yell brickyard
forty seven thirty six stop Brickyard is the call sign
they use for Republic airways, and then rejected takeoff runway thirteen.
Said the pilot, sorry about that. I thought United had
cleared well before that, according to the controller. So the
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United flight that was coming in that evening from Houston
carrying one hundred and seven passenger six crew members, the
planes were about a quarter mile apart when the flight
that was taking off hit the brakes, and the FAA
said it's also investigating another like I said, radio outage
at Newark. These close calls like this, yeah, they happen.
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One way I heard it to describe today is they
need to stop calling them near misses, because that makes
it sound like they were separated. But if you called it,
if you just changed the nomenclature, if all you did
was say we had a near hit at LaGuardia, that
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it would have changed pretty significantly and in fact, would
make people think differently about how dire.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
The situation is.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
When it comes to the tens of thousands of flights
that operate throughout the United just the United States, the
tens of thousands of flights that operate in the United
States each and every day, how many of these close
calls are there? I'm surprised there are not more. But again,
some instances like this one, today's the ninth, today's the twentieth,
and we're only finding out about it two weeks later.
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Unless you were the pilot or the air traffic controller,
this stuff isn't advertised very often. So that's just a
couple of the of the stories. There are a couple more,
a couple more terror in the Sky stories. One of
them is actually a love story, Love in the skies,
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and one is a door dash story, which doesn't make
sense because you would think, what does a door dash
driver have to do with the terror in the skies.
But we'll tell you more about that coming up. Also,
taking your talkbacks, did you drink as a kid?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
I don't mean.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
That to be flippant, but there's a study out that
talks about how it is people respond when they're allowed
to drink alcohol with their parents as a teenager or
a kid, what that does to them in terms of
predictions about their future behavior.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Hi, guys, I've got six kids and I've always let
them taste alcoholic beverages. We've never been big alcohol drinkers
in my household, although you know, I ran the when
I was a kid. But all of my kids have
found that they disliked the taste of alcohol, and that's
the reason I let them try it, so that they
don't like it, so then as they grew older they
don't care for it. At least that's been my experience.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Yeah, that's experienced for a lot of people. Some people
had said that their parents were teetotalers and they never drank.
Others said that they grew up in an alcoholic family,
so that was always available to them and they just
fell out of love with it because they saw what
was what it was doing to their adults in the house,
to their relatives, to mom, to dad, to whatever. So
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leave us your talk back. If you're listening on the app,
hit that little microphone button. And if you were allowed
to drink when you were a teenager, did it effect
the way that you handled alcohol in the future or
do you allow your kids to do it? You allow
your kids to drink alcohol with permission. We'll talk about
all of that later on in the show. We'll also
revisit it tomorrow with Justin Warsham. We do our parenting
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segment more in the skies though. Right around the corner you're.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
We were asking for talkbacks of your experience. Did you
allow your kids to drink when they were teenagers or
did you drink as a teenager and how it affected
how you looked at alcohol for the rest of your life.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
I have to assume Child Protective Services is listening to
these phone calls. No, that's what I'm going to refrain
from talking about my alcoholic tendencies in my childhood.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Okay, have a good one, Gary, Well, if it was
your childhood, there's not much they're going to be doing
about it now.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
So the other thing is, no, they're not, No, they
are not.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
We're in the midst of an extended terror in the
skies segment today, we talked about so those near misses
that had happened, one of them at LaGuardia just a
couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
What's up, Gary, justin here from Riverside, a former flight
instructor and was just listening to terror in the skies
or talking about that near miss on the runway, And
we call those runway incursions and they do, indeed have
different categories by the FA, so A through D for
severity A which is like a near myst that was
actually narrowly avoided, to D, which was just there was
an aircraft or vehicle where they shouldn't have been, which,
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like you said, would be helpful to categorize those customer
severe and some are not, but they all have been
publicized quite a bit lately.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Justin thank you for that. Appreciated.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
But speaking of here's an incursion a car where it
shouldn't have been On Saturday, a door Dash driver made
his way onto Chicago O'Hare International Airport grounds. Now I'm
not talking about driving through the terminal. I mean through
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a restricted area, and they said may have accidentally driven
over taxiways while trying to find his way back out
of the airport. Thirty six year old driver making a delivery,
he accessed the airside areas, how they referred to it.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
And you know who caught him or you know who
noticed him.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
The air traffic controllers in the tower saw this unauthorized
vehicle making its way through secured parts of the airport.
They may have crossed multiple internal roads and potentially even
taxiways before they were noticed by the air traffic controllers.
Airport authorities were able to intercept this guy. They questioned him.
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He said he was completely there by mistake, no big deal,
accidentally drove to within that secured area, no malicious intent,
no charges, no citations anything. Door Dash also had to
come out. They acknowledged the event. They're actively reviewing the
details around exactly what happened. This is not the first
time that this has happened. Amazingly, you drive around Lax,
(23:42):
you drive around Burbank, It's hard to find a place
to get in that even looks like you could get
in if you're unless you're going through the normal concourse
in front of the airport. A former air traffic controller
said that this was pretty frightening. This guy also flew
business jets. Emphasized how dangerous it could have been because
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he says, imagine if this had been at night. Imagine
if this was harder for air traffic controllers to identify
that as an unauthorized vehicle. Yeah, you got headlines rolling around,
but you got headlights for other vehicles that are traveling
within that airside portion of the airport that are fine.
Headlights all look the same in the dark, he said,
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And it could have been really, really bad. Chicago's major
airports experienced several similar breaches. In April of last year,
a city owned vehicle went on an active taxiway at
O'Hare without prior clearance that prompted a near miss, if
you want to call it that an incursion with a
regional aircraft. That was one of at least three runway
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or taxiway access violations involving ground vehicles at O'Hare during
that year. Chicago Midway there was just in February Chicago midway,
there was a flex Jet Challenger three point fifty business
jet that crossed an active runway without authorization and if
you remember that, that forced a Southwest flight to abort
its landing just a few seconds before a touchdown. But okay,
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let's send the terrans in the skies with a positive story. Shally,
there's a woman from Ohio who's.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Had a chance encounter with a handsome pilot.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
If you will, Tanya is her name, not even going
to try her last name because it doesn't make sense.
It's just a bunch of letters, she says. Every time
I tell the story, people think I'm making it up.
She's flying home with her family to Cleveland. She catches
this guy checking her out while she's at the airport
in Charlotte, North Carolina. Sees that this guy has a
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pilot's uniform on Hello, and that he's a head taller
than everybody else.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Hello.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
She didn't think anything of it until she gets onto
her flight Frontier and sees that this guy, Wesley, was
on the same plane as he was in uniform. She
initially thought, oh, that's our pilot, realized he was actually
off duty. He's just deadheading to a different flight headed
to Ohio. He gave Tanya's nephew a wave as she
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was carrying the kid down the aisle to her seat
toward the back of the plane. She then didn't interact
with him for the rest of the flight until they land,
when he approaches her with a note, She said, I'm
sitting in a row towards the back. About twenty minutes
before landing. I got a tap on my shoulder and
it's that guy handing me a napkin.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I made my mom and my sister read. At first,
I was freaking out.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
This message read again, written on a napkin of a
Frontier airline's flight. Hi, I'm sure you get notes like
this all the time, but I would love to take
you out to dinner and get to know you.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
If that's something you'd be up for, let me know,
and then he dropped his digits.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
She later learned the pilot had never asked out anyone before,
let alone somebody on a plane, and had to be
hyped up by one of the flight attendants who helped
him right on the napkin.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
She said.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
She texted the guy the next day and they have
been together ever.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Since so.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
You can find love in the air twelve o'clock hour
when we come back, not only have we got more
information about the trending stories, we have a couple of
true crime stories to get to, including how the crypto
bros Are going after each other. Nothing like a little
physical assault to make you feel better about your crypto farming.
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