May 28, 2025 • 29 mins
Gary and Shannon are reporting the latest news from Washington, D.C. #TerrorInTheSkies & #Parenting with Justin Worsham
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. President Trump is telling Canada that
they could pay to be protected by his dome, or
they could get it for free by becoming our fifty
first state.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And who doesn't like a deal. That's where we start Swampwatch.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheap and a liar.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Yeah, we got the real problem is that our leaders
are dumb.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
The other side never quits, so.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
What I'm not going anywhere?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
So that is how you.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Train the squat. I can imagine what can be and
be unburdened by what has been.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
You know, Americans have always been going at president, but
they're not stupid.
Speaker 6 (00:44):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Whether people voted for you were not. Swamp Watch, They're
all coundal and free is the best prize.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
He says Canada can pay as much as sixty one
billion dollars to be protected by his Golden Dome. This
is similar to what Israel has this protection dome that
he wants to put around the country, or Canada could
get it for free be included by joining the US.
He went on truth social yesterday claimed that Canada very
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much wants to be part of his proposed missile defense system,
said it would cost some zero dollars if they become
our cherished fifty first state. This came just hours after
King Charles made a rare speech in Canada emphasizing Canadian sovereignty,
saying something to the effect of the true North is strong.
Speaker 7 (01:36):
This system, obviously, as you mentioned, would be modeled similarly
to the iron dome that protects Israel, obviously much much larger,
and would be a bigger collection of not just the
short range rockets and shells and mortars that you see
in Israel, but probably multiple layers of a defense system,
including the incoming alert threats, the ground based interceptor missiles,
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the additional systems that would handle those lower altitude threats
like hypersonic missiles and enemy drones and things like that.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Elon Musk has broken with Trump on that domestic policy bill,
the Big Beautiful One, saying in an interview with CBS
that he was disappointed that it would increase the federal deficit,
basically saying that this bill flies in the face of
what they're trying to accomplish at DOZE.
Speaker 8 (02:26):
You know, I was like disappointed to see the massive
spending bill frankly, which increases the budgeteps if not doesn't
decrease it, and our reminds the work that Podoc team
is doing.
Speaker 7 (02:39):
I actually thought that when this big, beautiful bill came along,
I mean, like everything he's done on DOGE gets wiped
out in the first year.
Speaker 8 (02:47):
I think, I think a bill can be can be
can be big or it can be beautiful, but I
don't know if it could be both.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
Was Elon Musk sitting down with a reporter for CBS,
it's it's it to me. This is indicative we kind
of knew that that relationship was never going to be
simpatico one the same you know, lockstep forever.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
And this was in the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
We've known that there's been a time time limit on
Elon Musk's service, but there's also been this sort of
drip drip drip of not agreeing with the president or
not getting along with other members of the cabinet, or
feeling like they Doge was being blamed for a lot
of cuts and problems that were going on in government,
and he was going to be taking the brunt of
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that or bearing the brunt of that. But it also
is indicative of no matter how good your intention is,
that political machine that is Washington, DC will chew you
up and spit you out. It doesn't care who you are,
how many rockets you have, how many billions of dollars
you have, who your friends are, None of that matters.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It will eat your soul until you get out of
the way.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Everyone is just looking out for number one there.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
They don't care about what you're doing, or what your
agenda is or your success.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
President Trump held a news conference, well he was actually
swearing in Janine Piro as the temporary Assistant US Attorney
for DC, I believe is the official title, and started
taking questions about what's going on in the world. And
one of the questions came up about Russia that actually
wants to.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
End a war.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I can't tell you that, but I'll let you know
in about two weeks. Within two weeks, we're going to
find out very soon, We're going to find out whether
or not he's tapping us along or not, and if
he is, we'll respond a little bit differently, but it'll
take about a week and a half two weeks. I'm
very disappointed at what happened a couple of nights now
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where people were killed in the middle of what you
would call a negotiation. I'm very disappointed by that.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
This inaction from the White House when it comes to
putting pressure on Putin is being met with Germany now
becoming the loudest, most vociferous backer of Ukraine in this conflict.
I mentioned earlier that the Prime the Chancellor for Germany
had met with Ukraine's president and promised not only to
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lift the restrictions on range for the long range missiles
that have been provided to Ukraine, but also the decision
or the announcement that they will be building missiles in
Ukraine and in Germany for Ukraine to use. So they
have become sort of the de facto main supplier it
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looks like for weapons, at least in the interim.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Trump is calling Harvard a disaster.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Of course, the two are at each other's throats after
the President yanked all federal contacts contract excuse me with
Harvard overclaims that has not addressed anti semitism on campus.
Today at the Oval Office, Trump said Harvard was exposed
by taking five billion dollars for the government despite having
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a fifty two billion dollar endowment. He said he'd like
to see those federal dollars go to trade schools instead.
All right, coming up next, We've got some tear in
the sky. Who doesn't like a little tear in the sky?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Animals in the skies? Did you see those two stories?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Now?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Not supposed to take these these animals on planes?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Oh well, there's a lot of you know what, I'm
noticing a lot in airports these days.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Animals, Now what?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yew Cats hate that roast dogs might be cool with
the flying thing.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Cats are not.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Like, if you're taking your cat with you for your
support animal on a flight like that is not supportive
of your cat.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Your cat hates that ass. And it's obvious your cat's.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Going to need a support ass.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Yeah, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Influence brothers Andrew and Tristan Tate. I'm unfamiliar with these two.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I'm not missing anything.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
They have been charged in Britain with rape and other crimes.
Apparently they're dual US and British citizens. How are they
they popular? I sound like an old and I am
an old. Professional kickboxers who apparently are big on social media.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
Are influencer types, yes, and very bro oriented.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Oh so they're like bro culture.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
The most extreme versions of it, I see.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
And so that's why it's notable that they've been charged
with raping.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yes, got it?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yep, so another nock to masculinity, I guess.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
One way to say, yes, But these guys are legit.
I wanted in at least three countries that I know
of for this type of stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So are the A holes about it?
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Oh okay, I I have no like I've never seen
one video with these two, and it I just keep
seeing their names crossing the headlines, and I I I
chalked it up to they are on TikTok and I
am not.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
No, it's they're also a holes.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
Oh got it? It's time for terror in the sky.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Bike is nero?
Speaker 9 (08:26):
And I are you?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Roger?
Speaker 9 (08:28):
Get off my plane?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Roderick Rodgers? What's our Victor?
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Victor?
Speaker 9 (08:32):
Enough is enough?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I have had it with these munkey pipe snakes on this.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Money it's Gary and Shannon's Terror in the Skies on KFI.
Speaker 7 (08:43):
Well, two animal stories and one kind of animal story.
The first animal story is a Delta Airlines flight twice
delayed over the weekend because pigeons were on board.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Why were pigeons allowed on board?
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Great question, no idea how they got on there. They
said that the flight was delayed fifty six minutes and
they do appreciate the careful actions of the people and
the customers to remove two birds from the aircraft prior
to departure and apologize to everybody for the delay in travel.
The pilot gets on the mic, confirms there's a pigeon
on the plane and says, I've never had to do
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this before. So the baggage handlers come on board and
then carry the pigeon off, But as they taxi away,
they realized there was a second pigeon on board, And
there's a video of a guy who throws his jacket
up or sweatshirt or something like that to try to
catch the pigeon as it's flying down the aisle, who
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was able to get him. The bird was also removed
alive and well by another baggage handler.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
What are we doing that were just allowing pigeons.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I think they got in. It's not like someone carried
pigeons on board.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
How do we not know that there's pigeons on board
at that part the whole boarding pro and everything.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
Then Delta flight, another Delta flight had to be diverted
en route from Detroit to LA had to make its
way to Minneapolis because a dog got sick and apparently
was so sick that a vet that was on board said, yeah,
we need immediate help. So they diverted this flight to
Minneapolis about a two and a half hour delay. As
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that two and a half are sorry as that dog
was taken off and taken care of, at least according
to the pilot, Which is funny because that pigeon flight
was a Delta flight.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
This is a Delta flight.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
Delta is very on time, Yes, the most on time
US carrier. Eighty three percent of their flights land by
their arrival.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
It's a nice experience on Delta, I gotta say. I mean,
they do the charter flights for the chargers, so I
love the flight attendant crew there that we worked with
for years. But we just took a Delta flight and
United Stark difference I will say that anyway. My favorite
tear in the sky story is a female passenger and
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her story. She has been charged with child abuse for
attacking a child. Why well, this was a flight home
from Disney World and the child called her fat and
miss piggy, to which I.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Say, yeah, you gotta slap that kid. Gotta slap that kid.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Well, she did more than just slap him. She punched him.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
She hit him with a water bottle and then slammed
the boy's head into the airplane windows.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
If he's trying to blocker, maybe too far.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
The pilot called police for help, police said the child.
She told police that the child was very rude and disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Now I should mention that they were together. Yes, don't
know what the relationship is, but they were flying together
and the kid was being disrespectful, and she was disciplining
the child the way she sees feet sees fit. And
it was on a flight, which was a problem. But
you know that kid needed some discipline. I would argue,
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maybe not hitting the face with a bottle. I don't
know if he's gonna call you fat and miss piggy
in front of other people.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
And then finally United Airlines flight to San Francisco from
Costa Rica had to be delayed. Sky's The pilots flew
this thing in circles around the bay area because they
were evaluating a possible maintenance issue.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Nothing like a maintenance issue to get you to circle
around for an hour and a half.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
And what do you tell them?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, we think that we end the plane is broken,
so we're just gonna keep it up here for an
extra hour and a half.
Speaker 9 (12:38):
Plays gentlemen from the flight Texas as Captain Joe speaking,
And just so you know, we have a light that
has gone on here in the cockpit and my co
pilot has tried to tap it many times, tried to
flip it on and off a couple of times, and
we can't quite get that thing to go out. So
we're just gonna We're just gonna fly around here, beautiful
San Francisco Bay Area and get this thing to just
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burn out.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
It's going to roll the dice and see if the
plane falls out of the sky or not.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I don't know, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 9 (13:07):
This may be the last ninety minutes of your life,
So enjoy your loved ones.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Why you can all right coming up now, justin Worsham.
We'll be with us. We will be talking parenting. Must
listen to radio whenever Justin is here.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty once you.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Watch on Wednesday comes along at twelve thirty.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I gobbled up a show that landed on Netflix, and
I think a lot of people like me would gobble
it up as well, if they have not already.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Done Ransom Canyon season two.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
No, No, you wish.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
My wife and I were looking for something to watch
and there's a queue that comes up and it says
because you watched Ransom Canyon, and I went, nope, nope,
We're not watching anything in that whole list. Not one
thing you never heart is not ready for it.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Oh okay, all right, Well, since we're feeling emotional, how
about Justin Wilsham.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I'm here, guys.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
I will handle all of your emotional needs. Let me
sate for your lack of feelings.
Speaker 7 (14:13):
I do like that you bring in a box of
Kleenex with you every time in case, yes, just in
case we've talked.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
What you don't know is that's just what I walk
around like. Women carry Stanley cups. I carry a box
of Kleenex.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
We've talked about the term tiger moms before, right, and
there's a new study that specifically says that tiger moms
may have some benefits along with the negatives that everybody
would kind of assume an overbearing mother might have.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
So this parenting style is it was actually it came
out in a book in twenty eleven about the called
the Hymn of the Tiger Mom, and a tiger mom
for anybody who doesn't know, is somebody who's very focused
on their kids academic achievements and being disciplined and obedient,
and that what they found this was a study that
came out of China, and they found that parents whose mom,
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how did they put it, were the mother was the
dominant presence in regards to academic decisions as how they
said it multiple times in that exact same way, which
was interesting to me, and that in those cases the
kids performed better academically and all of that was good,
except for their emotional state was maybe not so hot,
like they didn't have emotional intelligence, like almost like what
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I interpreted was that they were becoming robots. They were
very good at achieving tasks and I.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Guess it means I guess the question is to what end?
I think a lot of people had the mother figure
be the driver when it came to academic success to
a point, right, I mean a tiger mom. I think
about tiger moms is you have to be a plus
plus students. You know, the GPA is the four point six.
You also know how to play the cello and speak Mandarin. Yeah,
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like that to me as a tiger mom. My family,
my mom was both My parents were very much into
educ cation. My dad was a teacher, but it was
my mom who was the academic disciplinarian of like you
better come home with the honor roll or else you know,
you don't get food for a week. Not really, she
was definitely the disciplinarian in that regard.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
See my dad was, but it was also maybe it's
because my parents were divorced. So my step mom was
the sweet one and my dad was anytime I had
less than a bee he was he was all over me,
like it was micromanaging everything about my life and borderline
making me miserable.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So it was worth it for me just to maintain
a fun to be.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
A step mom, Like you get to be the fun one.
I don't.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
But here's the thing, Like it's I don't think so
because I think there's this like stereotype of like evil
step mother. But my stepmom has always been like the
sweetest person in the world. So the people that I've
known that have stepped into that role, they find it
to be more challenging than fun.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah, like very rarely, Like, well.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, I was a step mom because you want the
kids to listen to you, but you don't want to
be You can't be.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
You don't have the jurisdiction to be the disciplinarian.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I bet you, yeah, you would.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
You would probably wallow in that lack of responsibility, like
you would find you would walk the fine line between
between being mom.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And like, in that lack of responsibility, you would pretty
much in a nutshell.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
And I appreciate.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I feel seen it's almost the tattoo. Yeah, it really
is wallowing.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
It really is.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
You know what I would love to see And I
I don't know if it's been around long enough to
even discuss that, but what uh, what a tiger momed
kid kid of a tiger mom, how they would behave
as an adult?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
How they would because we've said this before.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
Generationally, we go through different phases of what our what
our parenting style would be based on what our parents were.
Sometimes it's sort of an homage to the way they
did it. Other times it's complete distancing from the way
that you were raised. So a lot of that, But
I'd be curious to see what studies would be done
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about these these people.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
The concept predates to eleven.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
It just got its label, and I would venture a
guess that we all could agree that it really is
going to ultimately boil down to the perception of the child, right,
Like in my experience what I've seen his parents who
were like I thought my parents, like I would say
my parents are great, Like I had a great experience
with my parents, But when I tell people about my childhood,
they're like, I think you might have been abused, Like
I think that there was some really not cool stuff
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that was going on in that context, though, how aware
were you of the way other your friends were parented?
I mean, was that were you conscious about the differences
that I wasn't either.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I don't they think that the way it's done in
their house is the way it's done.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
The one friend I had that I knew anything about
his parenting. How he was parented, was that his parents
slept in different bedrooms. I mean, that's the only and
he's the only one. I didn't know if anybody was beaten.
I don't know if anybody's parents got a divorce or
were you know, had affairs. I didn't know any of
that stuff except that one guy.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
And I had one family that would have Domino's pizza
every Friday. And I was so jealous because my dad
was such a cheap skate. We hardly ever ate out
unless it was like your birthday. We're brothers, and so
I was like, and I would find every excuse to
go over to their house on Friday if I could,
just so I can enjoy some pizza and some soda.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
That's so weird, guys at dinners?
Speaker 6 (19:21):
About ready, right, I show up at five point thirty.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Did you, guys have conversations or conflicts with your wives
when you decided to have kids raise kids in terms
of how you wanted to raise them, Like, did you
come into the relationship thinking that the way that you
were raised was the way you wanted to raise your
kids And was that a difference of opinion with your wives?
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (19:42):
For me, it was big time. My wife doesn't believe
in consequences. They make her feel bad, and I think
that they're the best way to teach anyone anything.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So is that something you came to a compromise with.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Nope, it was a lot of fighting. But you talked
about it before kids. Uh huh.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
The conversation we had about it before kids. As I said,
the one thing that I think is going to be
important when we decide to have kids is that we
can't undermine each other in front of the kids. That
we have to present a united front in front of them.
And she wholeheartedly forgot that conversation by the time we
had children, like it was constant. And then there was
also this is my own bs, I think. But there
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was also this element of she felt like she had
to be the stereotypical mom, even though I was the
one that was home with them most of the time,
and so she would talk to me in ways like
you're just a dad, You're babysitting the kids, and it
would drive me up an effing wall.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
She fell for the sitcom trope of dad's or domint.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
And then my BS that I was mudding the waters
and messing it up is that I was sitting there
thinking like, I'm not I'm great at this like you
and I will not be treated otherwise, right Like, so
it just like compounded.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
In nice you you were projecting all of that. Oh yeah,
because you're so focused.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
On being a great dad that you were constantly questioning
yourself and everything she said you read into that, yes
or well.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
What the part that would make me angry was when
it was so far out of left field. The biggest
fight we've had in our marriage was about my older
son getting earaches and he told her that I didn't care.
He's like, well, did you tell your dad about this? This
is when I was working on the morning show, so
I'd go to bed at seven o'clock. So at between
seven and nine, that's when all complaints with management were
lodged in her suggestion box ears. And so she told
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me the next day. She's like, yeah, I'm just worried
because he said you don't care about him. Oh and
I said and I said, I literally said, bs, no,
no way, no way. And she's like, well, he's got
an earache, and my niece and my niece had earaches,
and then she became hearing impaired, and so that was
very sensitive to her. I was insensitive to that. I'm like,
that's not what's happening here. And I got mad at
her because I'm like, you're acting like I don't know
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what I'm doing. And I was here all day.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I go, you were not.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
I go.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
The kid was running around the pool having fun, like
wrestle around with his buddies, and then mom comes home
and they go, oh, I have above me. I need
hugs and kisses from mommy. Who doesn't I wanted to
hugs and kisses from urges my wife.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So everybody wants hunts and kisses from hugs and kisses.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
And by the way, but you started off with an
earache and end it with sex.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Kisses dad?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
He wanted sex before seven?
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Was it sex? I just wanted affection, not to be
ridiculed for being, in her perspective, a subpar father who
didn't care.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
About his son.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
You know, Justin uses sex to get love. I know, yeah,
the most so weird.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
It creeps me out.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Sex.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
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Speaker 2 (22:45):
Right after the show.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
You get that weekend fixed podcast that comes along only
on Saturdays.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
It's a new off the air segment that we do.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
We just kind of came up with an idea about
I'm so.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Sorry to Gary and maybe all the listeners.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Well, Justin came up with the idea.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Well, I kind of pitched it. I don't know if
it would be my idea. You came in and closed
it out. We were talking about that like nature videos,
and you had some takes on a nature video that
a friend of mine had seen that we're interesting. And
I said, I would be more interested in watching you
narrate nature videos than say, Snoop.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Doggo tating a chimpanzee in a rape with a frog.
And I was saying, how do we know that that
was not consensual?
Speaker 7 (23:36):
Some of that stuff needed to be said off the
air could argue all Justin. Justin comes in and talks
about parenting issues with us, and this I think is
an interesting I was worried because it's interesting because it's
it's so much more prevalent now than it would have
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been I think during our correct time.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
And I think because you so, what we're talking about
is that there was this, like I didn't post hit
it's not with us right now. There's this post online
where a mom was complaining about the fact that she
was putting together her kid's birthday party and one of
her kid's closest friends couldn't go to the birthday party
because they had a game of football soccer as we
call it here in the States. This was in England,
(24:21):
and so I just thought it was interesting because they
were having this debate within this article about should you
prioritize your friends over your extracurricular activities, And my knee
jerk reaction was like, well, like at first, I was like, well,
it's not the extracurricular activity, it's the teammates, right like you,
you also have a team that.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
You are accountable to, you're committed to.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
As a parent.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
That's why I like my kids being involved in team sports. Yes,
it teaches them like an obligation.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Take your friend to lunch or have a play date
with them another day, bring them the gift and the
whole thing.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
And you also, as a parent of the birthday child,
have to understand that if your kid has a birth
birthday during whatever blank season that I mean, for our kids,
when they were both playing a yso soccer, that meant
Saturday mornings or early afternoons were off limits for parties
(25:13):
in the afternoon, five o'clock, seven o'clock whatever. That's fine,
you know your kid's not going to be playing soccer
at that time.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
But my birthday was on still is my check July third.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
So my mom when she would have birthday parties for me,
would always do it on like July tenth or June
twenty fifth or whatever kids would be would be in
town exactly.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
And I there's a part of me that I don't
understand the idea of the birthday being that important, you
know what I mean? I was witness, sure maybe you
know what to your point there is there was I
do I hit them all at the Easter Bundy, Wow,
I want to just lie.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I want to line them up and put them on
your Nature show.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
I I at this moment when I think I was
eleven or twelve, I want to have my friends over
for pizza and so I asked my dad, I go,
can I have my friends over for pizza for my birthday?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
And my dad goes, oh, is that still a thing
for you?
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Like I can think he thought he was done hosting
birthday parties.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
You never know that's true.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Maybe I don't know, but it was just but I
think I'm coming at it from that perspective because I
was like, well, I'm not asking for like a big thing.
I just want three of my buddies to come over
and have some pizza and we're going to play some
video games. And I was planning to pay for the
pizza like that was because I had a job and
so I but I just thought it always stuck. It
stuck in my head that he was like, oh, that's
still a thing, like because I remember thinking like, oh,
(26:35):
maybe I shouldn't have birthday parties anymore? And is that
why birthdays aren't important to me?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
When is your birthday justin January twenty fourth?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Will you make a note of that somewhere? Well, we
can't do things.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
She can't even do it.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
She has the idea, the question, and no, Gary, he
was a responsible one.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
You follow in the lack of do you want to
know what the definition of responsibility is, I do the
ability to respond?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Oh he is, Yeah, it's pretty much.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
You just like pretty much definition Like you just took
the conjunction.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Of the words gearing me somebody who has a great
ability to respond to things. He's a very responsible person,
except if it's a broken door, then all bets are off.
But if I need something to remember or if I
want to remember something, he's one of the people that
is a responsible person. So I think that when we
(27:29):
want to have a pizza party for justin January twenty fourth,
he'll be the wonder reminde.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Oh please don't do that.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
I don't want to know what's happening.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
No, no, no, no, Well we make him pay for it, right, Yeah,
he's going to get a job. You know what I
want bored? I want bored for that bit for my birthday.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I say you, guys, if we're going to tell the
story every year, I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
It's going to bed.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
I'm in.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I'm all for it.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I will even put it in my calendar.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I will risk I will you show you my ability
to respect just so.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
You don't have to bring a lunch that day. That's
why you're putting it in your calendar. I think this
year it's on a Saturday in twenty twenty six, if
I'm not mistaken, but.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
I'm hoping it's Friday for you guys, yours would be
it's four.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
It's on a Saturday, so it's still a thing for you.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Love it. It's so great. Thank you, justin as always,
I wish I could return the sentiment.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
I really truly wish I could say thank you every
other week. I would be open to.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Say that, c but this is so full and it
was just hagging there.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
It was what the fact that you do it day
of the week.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Was only because I had to do a choir show
for my kids and we did the.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Quack calendar, like all right, it's okay, it is a
thing for me. It was a big boy will be kidding,
a foot race.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
Our trending stories, we have our freeze dried pets and
what you watch on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Still we're not able to do that. I would have
pulled a hammy.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
You've been listening to the Gary and jan and show.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday
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This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. President Trump is telling Canada that
they could pay to be protected by his dome, or
they could get it for free by becoming our fifty
first state.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And who doesn't like a deal. That's where we start Swampwatch.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheap and a liar.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Yeah, we got the real problem is that our leaders
are dumb.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
The other side never quits, so.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
What I'm not going anywhere?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
So that is how you.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Train the squat. I can imagine what can be and
be unburdened by what has been.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
You know, Americans have always been going at president, but
they're not stupid.
Speaker 6 (00:44):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Whether people voted for you were not. Swamp Watch, They're
all coundal and free is the best prize.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
He says Canada can pay as much as sixty one
billion dollars to be protected by his Golden Dome. This
is similar to what Israel has this protection dome that
he wants to put around the country, or Canada could
get it for free be included by joining the US.
He went on truth social yesterday claimed that Canada very
(01:14):
much wants to be part of his proposed missile defense system,
said it would cost some zero dollars if they become
our cherished fifty first state. This came just hours after
King Charles made a rare speech in Canada emphasizing Canadian sovereignty,
saying something to the effect of the true North is strong.
Speaker 7 (01:36):
This system, obviously, as you mentioned, would be modeled similarly
to the iron dome that protects Israel, obviously much much larger,
and would be a bigger collection of not just the
short range rockets and shells and mortars that you see
in Israel, but probably multiple layers of a defense system,
including the incoming alert threats, the ground based interceptor missiles,
(02:01):
the additional systems that would handle those lower altitude threats
like hypersonic missiles and enemy drones and things like that.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Elon Musk has broken with Trump on that domestic policy bill,
the Big Beautiful One, saying in an interview with CBS
that he was disappointed that it would increase the federal deficit,
basically saying that this bill flies in the face of
what they're trying to accomplish at DOZE.
Speaker 8 (02:26):
You know, I was like disappointed to see the massive
spending bill frankly, which increases the budgeteps if not doesn't
decrease it, and our reminds the work that Podoc team
is doing.
Speaker 7 (02:39):
I actually thought that when this big, beautiful bill came along,
I mean, like everything he's done on DOGE gets wiped
out in the first year.
Speaker 8 (02:47):
I think, I think a bill can be can be
can be big or it can be beautiful, but I
don't know if it could be both.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
Was Elon Musk sitting down with a reporter for CBS,
it's it's it to me. This is indicative we kind
of knew that that relationship was never going to be
simpatico one the same you know, lockstep forever.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
And this was in the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
We've known that there's been a time time limit on
Elon Musk's service, but there's also been this sort of
drip drip drip of not agreeing with the president or
not getting along with other members of the cabinet, or
feeling like they Doge was being blamed for a lot
of cuts and problems that were going on in government,
and he was going to be taking the brunt of
(03:34):
that or bearing the brunt of that. But it also
is indicative of no matter how good your intention is,
that political machine that is Washington, DC will chew you
up and spit you out. It doesn't care who you are,
how many rockets you have, how many billions of dollars
you have, who your friends are, None of that matters.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It will eat your soul until you get out of
the way.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Everyone is just looking out for number one there.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
They don't care about what you're doing, or what your
agenda is or your success.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
President Trump held a news conference, well he was actually
swearing in Janine Piro as the temporary Assistant US Attorney
for DC, I believe is the official title, and started
taking questions about what's going on in the world. And
one of the questions came up about Russia that actually
wants to.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
End a war.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I can't tell you that, but I'll let you know
in about two weeks. Within two weeks, we're going to
find out very soon, We're going to find out whether
or not he's tapping us along or not, and if
he is, we'll respond a little bit differently, but it'll
take about a week and a half two weeks. I'm
very disappointed at what happened a couple of nights now
(04:47):
where people were killed in the middle of what you
would call a negotiation. I'm very disappointed by that.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
This inaction from the White House when it comes to
putting pressure on Putin is being met with Germany now
becoming the loudest, most vociferous backer of Ukraine in this conflict.
I mentioned earlier that the Prime the Chancellor for Germany
had met with Ukraine's president and promised not only to
(05:18):
lift the restrictions on range for the long range missiles
that have been provided to Ukraine, but also the decision
or the announcement that they will be building missiles in
Ukraine and in Germany for Ukraine to use. So they
have become sort of the de facto main supplier it
(05:40):
looks like for weapons, at least in the interim.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Trump is calling Harvard a disaster.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Of course, the two are at each other's throats after
the President yanked all federal contacts contract excuse me with
Harvard overclaims that has not addressed anti semitism on campus.
Today at the Oval Office, Trump said Harvard was exposed
by taking five billion dollars for the government despite having
(06:06):
a fifty two billion dollar endowment. He said he'd like
to see those federal dollars go to trade schools instead.
All right, coming up next, We've got some tear in
the sky. Who doesn't like a little tear in the sky?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Animals in the skies? Did you see those two stories?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Now?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Not supposed to take these these animals on planes?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Oh well, there's a lot of you know what, I'm
noticing a lot in airports these days.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Animals, Now what?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yew Cats hate that roast dogs might be cool with
the flying thing.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Cats are not.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Like, if you're taking your cat with you for your
support animal on a flight like that is not supportive
of your cat.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Your cat hates that ass. And it's obvious your cat's.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Going to need a support ass.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Yeah, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Influence brothers Andrew and Tristan Tate. I'm unfamiliar with these two.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I'm not missing anything.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
They have been charged in Britain with rape and other crimes.
Apparently they're dual US and British citizens. How are they
they popular? I sound like an old and I am
an old. Professional kickboxers who apparently are big on social media.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
Are influencer types, yes, and very bro oriented.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Oh so they're like bro culture.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
The most extreme versions of it, I see.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
And so that's why it's notable that they've been charged
with raping.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yes, got it?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yep, so another nock to masculinity, I guess.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
One way to say, yes, But these guys are legit.
I wanted in at least three countries that I know
of for this type of stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So are the A holes about it?
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Oh okay, I I have no like I've never seen
one video with these two, and it I just keep
seeing their names crossing the headlines, and I I I
chalked it up to they are on TikTok and I
am not.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
No, it's they're also a holes.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
Oh got it? It's time for terror in the sky.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Bike is nero?
Speaker 9 (08:26):
And I are you?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Roger?
Speaker 9 (08:28):
Get off my plane?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Roderick Rodgers? What's our Victor?
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Victor?
Speaker 9 (08:32):
Enough is enough?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I have had it with these munkey pipe snakes on this.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Money it's Gary and Shannon's Terror in the Skies on KFI.
Speaker 7 (08:43):
Well, two animal stories and one kind of animal story.
The first animal story is a Delta Airlines flight twice
delayed over the weekend because pigeons were on board.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Why were pigeons allowed on board?
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Great question, no idea how they got on there. They
said that the flight was delayed fifty six minutes and
they do appreciate the careful actions of the people and
the customers to remove two birds from the aircraft prior
to departure and apologize to everybody for the delay in travel.
The pilot gets on the mic, confirms there's a pigeon
on the plane and says, I've never had to do
(09:20):
this before. So the baggage handlers come on board and
then carry the pigeon off, But as they taxi away,
they realized there was a second pigeon on board, And
there's a video of a guy who throws his jacket
up or sweatshirt or something like that to try to
catch the pigeon as it's flying down the aisle, who
(09:41):
was able to get him. The bird was also removed
alive and well by another baggage handler.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
What are we doing that were just allowing pigeons.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I think they got in. It's not like someone carried
pigeons on board.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
How do we not know that there's pigeons on board
at that part the whole boarding pro and everything.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
Then Delta flight, another Delta flight had to be diverted
en route from Detroit to LA had to make its
way to Minneapolis because a dog got sick and apparently
was so sick that a vet that was on board said, yeah,
we need immediate help. So they diverted this flight to
Minneapolis about a two and a half hour delay. As
(10:24):
that two and a half are sorry as that dog
was taken off and taken care of, at least according
to the pilot, Which is funny because that pigeon flight
was a Delta flight.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
This is a Delta flight.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
Delta is very on time, Yes, the most on time
US carrier. Eighty three percent of their flights land by
their arrival.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
It's a nice experience on Delta, I gotta say. I mean,
they do the charter flights for the chargers, so I
love the flight attendant crew there that we worked with
for years. But we just took a Delta flight and
United Stark difference I will say that anyway. My favorite
tear in the sky story is a female passenger and
(11:09):
her story. She has been charged with child abuse for
attacking a child. Why well, this was a flight home
from Disney World and the child called her fat and
miss piggy, to which I.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Say, yeah, you gotta slap that kid. Gotta slap that kid.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Well, she did more than just slap him. She punched him.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
She hit him with a water bottle and then slammed
the boy's head into the airplane windows.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
If he's trying to blocker, maybe too far.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
The pilot called police for help, police said the child.
She told police that the child was very rude and disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Now I should mention that they were together. Yes, don't
know what the relationship is, but they were flying together
and the kid was being disrespectful, and she was disciplining
the child the way she sees feet sees fit. And
it was on a flight, which was a problem. But
you know that kid needed some discipline. I would argue,
(12:06):
maybe not hitting the face with a bottle. I don't
know if he's gonna call you fat and miss piggy
in front of other people.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
And then finally United Airlines flight to San Francisco from
Costa Rica had to be delayed. Sky's The pilots flew
this thing in circles around the bay area because they
were evaluating a possible maintenance issue.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Nothing like a maintenance issue to get you to circle
around for an hour and a half.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
And what do you tell them?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, we think that we end the plane is broken,
so we're just gonna keep it up here for an
extra hour and a half.
Speaker 9 (12:38):
Plays gentlemen from the flight Texas as Captain Joe speaking,
And just so you know, we have a light that
has gone on here in the cockpit and my co
pilot has tried to tap it many times, tried to
flip it on and off a couple of times, and
we can't quite get that thing to go out. So
we're just gonna We're just gonna fly around here, beautiful
San Francisco Bay Area and get this thing to just
(13:00):
burn out.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
It's going to roll the dice and see if the
plane falls out of the sky or not.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I don't know, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 9 (13:07):
This may be the last ninety minutes of your life,
So enjoy your loved ones.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Why you can all right coming up now, justin Worsham.
We'll be with us. We will be talking parenting. Must
listen to radio whenever Justin is here.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty once you.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Watch on Wednesday comes along at twelve thirty.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I gobbled up a show that landed on Netflix, and
I think a lot of people like me would gobble
it up as well, if they have not already.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Done Ransom Canyon season two.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
No, No, you wish.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
My wife and I were looking for something to watch
and there's a queue that comes up and it says
because you watched Ransom Canyon, and I went, nope, nope,
We're not watching anything in that whole list. Not one
thing you never heart is not ready for it.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Oh okay, all right, Well, since we're feeling emotional, how
about Justin Wilsham.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I'm here, guys.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
I will handle all of your emotional needs. Let me
sate for your lack of feelings.
Speaker 7 (14:13):
I do like that you bring in a box of
Kleenex with you every time in case, yes, just in
case we've talked.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
What you don't know is that's just what I walk
around like. Women carry Stanley cups. I carry a box
of Kleenex.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
We've talked about the term tiger moms before, right, and
there's a new study that specifically says that tiger moms
may have some benefits along with the negatives that everybody
would kind of assume an overbearing mother might have.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
So this parenting style is it was actually it came
out in a book in twenty eleven about the called
the Hymn of the Tiger Mom, and a tiger mom
for anybody who doesn't know, is somebody who's very focused
on their kids academic achievements and being disciplined and obedient,
and that what they found this was a study that
came out of China, and they found that parents whose mom,
(15:05):
how did they put it, were the mother was the
dominant presence in regards to academic decisions as how they
said it multiple times in that exact same way, which
was interesting to me, and that in those cases the
kids performed better academically and all of that was good,
except for their emotional state was maybe not so hot,
like they didn't have emotional intelligence, like almost like what
(15:28):
I interpreted was that they were becoming robots. They were
very good at achieving tasks and I.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Guess it means I guess the question is to what end?
I think a lot of people had the mother figure
be the driver when it came to academic success to
a point, right, I mean a tiger mom. I think
about tiger moms is you have to be a plus
plus students. You know, the GPA is the four point six.
You also know how to play the cello and speak Mandarin. Yeah,
(15:54):
like that to me as a tiger mom. My family,
my mom was both My parents were very much into
educ cation. My dad was a teacher, but it was
my mom who was the academic disciplinarian of like you
better come home with the honor roll or else you know,
you don't get food for a week. Not really, she
was definitely the disciplinarian in that regard.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
See my dad was, but it was also maybe it's
because my parents were divorced. So my step mom was
the sweet one and my dad was anytime I had
less than a bee he was he was all over me,
like it was micromanaging everything about my life and borderline
making me miserable.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So it was worth it for me just to maintain
a fun to be.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
A step mom, Like you get to be the fun one.
I don't.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
But here's the thing, Like it's I don't think so
because I think there's this like stereotype of like evil
step mother. But my stepmom has always been like the
sweetest person in the world. So the people that I've
known that have stepped into that role, they find it
to be more challenging than fun.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah, like very rarely, Like, well.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, I was a step mom because you want the
kids to listen to you, but you don't want to
be You can't be.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
You don't have the jurisdiction to be the disciplinarian.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I bet you, yeah, you would.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
You would probably wallow in that lack of responsibility, like
you would find you would walk the fine line between
between being mom.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And like, in that lack of responsibility, you would pretty
much in a nutshell.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
And I appreciate.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I feel seen it's almost the tattoo. Yeah, it really
is wallowing.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
It really is.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
You know what I would love to see And I
I don't know if it's been around long enough to
even discuss that, but what uh, what a tiger momed
kid kid of a tiger mom, how they would behave
as an adult?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
How they would because we've said this before.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
Generationally, we go through different phases of what our what
our parenting style would be based on what our parents were.
Sometimes it's sort of an homage to the way they
did it. Other times it's complete distancing from the way
that you were raised. So a lot of that, But
I'd be curious to see what studies would be done
(17:56):
about these these people.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
The concept predates to eleven.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
It just got its label, and I would venture a
guess that we all could agree that it really is
going to ultimately boil down to the perception of the child, right,
Like in my experience what I've seen his parents who
were like I thought my parents, like I would say
my parents are great, Like I had a great experience
with my parents, But when I tell people about my childhood,
they're like, I think you might have been abused, Like
I think that there was some really not cool stuff
(18:21):
that was going on in that context, though, how aware
were you of the way other your friends were parented?
I mean, was that were you conscious about the differences
that I wasn't either.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I don't they think that the way it's done in
their house is the way it's done.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
The one friend I had that I knew anything about
his parenting. How he was parented, was that his parents
slept in different bedrooms. I mean, that's the only and
he's the only one. I didn't know if anybody was beaten.
I don't know if anybody's parents got a divorce or
were you know, had affairs. I didn't know any of
that stuff except that one guy.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
And I had one family that would have Domino's pizza
every Friday. And I was so jealous because my dad
was such a cheap skate. We hardly ever ate out
unless it was like your birthday. We're brothers, and so
I was like, and I would find every excuse to
go over to their house on Friday if I could,
just so I can enjoy some pizza and some soda.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
That's so weird, guys at dinners?
Speaker 6 (19:21):
About ready, right, I show up at five point thirty.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Did you, guys have conversations or conflicts with your wives
when you decided to have kids raise kids in terms
of how you wanted to raise them, Like, did you
come into the relationship thinking that the way that you
were raised was the way you wanted to raise your
kids And was that a difference of opinion with your wives?
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (19:42):
For me, it was big time. My wife doesn't believe
in consequences. They make her feel bad, and I think
that they're the best way to teach anyone anything.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So is that something you came to a compromise with.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Nope, it was a lot of fighting. But you talked
about it before kids. Uh huh.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
The conversation we had about it before kids. As I said,
the one thing that I think is going to be
important when we decide to have kids is that we
can't undermine each other in front of the kids. That
we have to present a united front in front of them.
And she wholeheartedly forgot that conversation by the time we
had children, like it was constant. And then there was
also this is my own bs, I think. But there
(20:21):
was also this element of she felt like she had
to be the stereotypical mom, even though I was the
one that was home with them most of the time,
and so she would talk to me in ways like
you're just a dad, You're babysitting the kids, and it
would drive me up an effing wall.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
She fell for the sitcom trope of dad's or domint.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
And then my BS that I was mudding the waters
and messing it up is that I was sitting there
thinking like, I'm not I'm great at this like you
and I will not be treated otherwise, right Like, so
it just like compounded.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
In nice you you were projecting all of that. Oh yeah,
because you're so focused.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
On being a great dad that you were constantly questioning
yourself and everything she said you read into that, yes
or well.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
What the part that would make me angry was when
it was so far out of left field. The biggest
fight we've had in our marriage was about my older
son getting earaches and he told her that I didn't care.
He's like, well, did you tell your dad about this? This
is when I was working on the morning show, so
I'd go to bed at seven o'clock. So at between
seven and nine, that's when all complaints with management were
lodged in her suggestion box ears. And so she told
(21:24):
me the next day. She's like, yeah, I'm just worried
because he said you don't care about him. Oh and
I said and I said, I literally said, bs, no,
no way, no way. And she's like, well, he's got
an earache, and my niece and my niece had earaches,
and then she became hearing impaired, and so that was
very sensitive to her. I was insensitive to that. I'm like,
that's not what's happening here. And I got mad at
her because I'm like, you're acting like I don't know
(21:46):
what I'm doing. And I was here all day.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I go, you were not.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
I go.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
The kid was running around the pool having fun, like
wrestle around with his buddies, and then mom comes home
and they go, oh, I have above me. I need
hugs and kisses from mommy. Who doesn't I wanted to
hugs and kisses from urges my wife.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So everybody wants hunts and kisses from hugs and kisses.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
And by the way, but you started off with an
earache and end it with sex.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Kisses dad?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
He wanted sex before seven?
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Was it sex? I just wanted affection, not to be
ridiculed for being, in her perspective, a subpar father who
didn't care.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
About his son.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
You know, Justin uses sex to get love. I know, yeah,
the most so weird.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
It creeps me out.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Sex.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
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Speaker 2 (22:45):
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Speaker 7 (22:47):
You get that weekend fixed podcast that comes along only
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Speaker 4 (22:52):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
It's a new off the air segment that we do.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
We just kind of came up with an idea about
I'm so.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Sorry to Gary and maybe all the listeners.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Well, Justin came up with the idea.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Well, I kind of pitched it. I don't know if
it would be my idea. You came in and closed
it out. We were talking about that like nature videos,
and you had some takes on a nature video that
a friend of mine had seen that we're interesting. And
I said, I would be more interested in watching you
narrate nature videos than say, Snoop.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Doggo tating a chimpanzee in a rape with a frog.
And I was saying, how do we know that that
was not consensual?
Speaker 7 (23:36):
Some of that stuff needed to be said off the
air could argue all Justin. Justin comes in and talks
about parenting issues with us, and this I think is
an interesting I was worried because it's interesting because it's
it's so much more prevalent now than it would have
(23:58):
been I think during our correct time.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
And I think because you so, what we're talking about
is that there was this, like I didn't post hit
it's not with us right now. There's this post online
where a mom was complaining about the fact that she
was putting together her kid's birthday party and one of
her kid's closest friends couldn't go to the birthday party
because they had a game of football soccer as we
call it here in the States. This was in England,
(24:21):
and so I just thought it was interesting because they
were having this debate within this article about should you
prioritize your friends over your extracurricular activities, And my knee
jerk reaction was like, well, like at first, I was like, well,
it's not the extracurricular activity, it's the teammates, right like you,
you also have a team that.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
You are accountable to, you're committed to.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
As a parent.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
That's why I like my kids being involved in team sports. Yes,
it teaches them like an obligation.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Take your friend to lunch or have a play date
with them another day, bring them the gift and the
whole thing.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
And you also, as a parent of the birthday child,
have to understand that if your kid has a birth
birthday during whatever blank season that I mean, for our kids,
when they were both playing a yso soccer, that meant
Saturday mornings or early afternoons were off limits for parties
(25:13):
in the afternoon, five o'clock, seven o'clock whatever. That's fine,
you know your kid's not going to be playing soccer
at that time.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
But my birthday was on still is my check July third.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
So my mom when she would have birthday parties for me,
would always do it on like July tenth or June
twenty fifth or whatever kids would be would be in
town exactly.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
And I there's a part of me that I don't
understand the idea of the birthday being that important, you
know what I mean? I was witness, sure maybe you
know what to your point there is there was I
do I hit them all at the Easter Bundy, Wow,
I want to just lie.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I want to line them up and put them on
your Nature show.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
I I at this moment when I think I was
eleven or twelve, I want to have my friends over
for pizza and so I asked my dad, I go,
can I have my friends over for pizza for my birthday?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
And my dad goes, oh, is that still a thing
for you?
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Like I can think he thought he was done hosting
birthday parties.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
You never know that's true.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Maybe I don't know, but it was just but I
think I'm coming at it from that perspective because I
was like, well, I'm not asking for like a big thing.
I just want three of my buddies to come over
and have some pizza and we're going to play some
video games. And I was planning to pay for the
pizza like that was because I had a job and
so I but I just thought it always stuck. It
stuck in my head that he was like, oh, that's
still a thing, like because I remember thinking like, oh,
(26:35):
maybe I shouldn't have birthday parties anymore? And is that
why birthdays aren't important to me?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
When is your birthday justin January twenty fourth?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Will you make a note of that somewhere? Well, we
can't do things.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
She can't even do it.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
She has the idea, the question, and no, Gary, he
was a responsible one.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
You follow in the lack of do you want to
know what the definition of responsibility is, I do the
ability to respond?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Oh he is, Yeah, it's pretty much.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
You just like pretty much definition Like you just took
the conjunction.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Of the words gearing me somebody who has a great
ability to respond to things. He's a very responsible person,
except if it's a broken door, then all bets are off.
But if I need something to remember or if I
want to remember something, he's one of the people that
is a responsible person. So I think that when we
(27:29):
want to have a pizza party for justin January twenty fourth,
he'll be the wonder reminde.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Oh please don't do that.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
I don't want to know what's happening.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
No, no, no, no, Well we make him pay for it, right, Yeah,
he's going to get a job. You know what I
want bored? I want bored for that bit for my birthday.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I say you, guys, if we're going to tell the
story every year, I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
It's going to bed.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
I'm in.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I'm all for it.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I will even put it in my calendar.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I will risk I will you show you my ability
to respect just so.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
You don't have to bring a lunch that day. That's
why you're putting it in your calendar. I think this
year it's on a Saturday in twenty twenty six, if
I'm not mistaken, but.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
I'm hoping it's Friday for you guys, yours would be
it's four.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
It's on a Saturday, so it's still a thing for you.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Love it. It's so great. Thank you, justin as always,
I wish I could return the sentiment.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
I really truly wish I could say thank you every
other week. I would be open to.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Say that, c but this is so full and it
was just hagging there.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
It was what the fact that you do it day
of the week.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Was only because I had to do a choir show
for my kids and we did the.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Quack calendar, like all right, it's okay, it is a
thing for me. It was a big boy will be kidding,
a foot race.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
Our trending stories, we have our freeze dried pets and
what you watch on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Still we're not able to do that. I would have
pulled a hammy.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
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Speaker 7 (29:00):
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