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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Today, fifty percent of murders get
away with it. Now, I want you all to stop
fantasizing about who you would kill if given the chance,
seemingly because you might get away with it. It's more
(00:20):
of a law enforcement issue clearing homicide rates as opposed
to a crazed killer who like the woman in Australia
that killed her in laws with mushrooms, she did not
get away with it. So let's table those plans. Eleven o'clock,
we dive on into all the news of Washington's where
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we kick off swamp Watch.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheap and a
liar and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, we got the.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
So what I'm not going anywhere so that you train
the swat.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
You know, mervents have always been going act present.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
They're not stupid political flunder is when a politician actually
tells the truth.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Whether people voted for you were not swamp watch.
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surgeries or medications. So yesterday, as we told you, President
Trump setting a twenty five percent tax on goods imported
from Japan and South Korea, as well as new tariff
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rates on a dozen other countries. With those letters basically
that take it or leave it letters, he provided notice
of these tariffs to begin on August first. Now, the
letters warned these countries not to retaliate by increasing their
own import taxes or else or else, the Trump administration
would further increase import taxes, so the higher tariffs could
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hinder economic growth, if not increase recession risks. That's according
to the Associated Press that has become increasingly biased in
its reporting. I have noticed of late the reason for
the tariffs, and we'll see how it works. I mean,
his timeline waffles back and forth. You know, just hours
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ago he said that the tariff deadlines were kind of fungible,
and then today he came out and said no, these
were hard lines, and then said we're not hardliners. So
it's going to be all about if the deal at
whatever particular time is something that Trump, in Trump's eyes,
is a good deal for America. The tariffs all about
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bringing manufacturing back to America, right, Want to grow the
US revenue, want to equalize the balance of trade, pressure
other countries into setting policies that benefit the US. That
has not been the case. It kind of goes back
to the whole NATO fight.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
It seems like the US does more than its fair
share in these trade agreements. It looks like when you
sit down and you go through them, some of them
that have been hammered out decades ago, we don't get
a great deal.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
In Trump's size, this is a panacea, these tariffs. It's
an economic tool. You're going to restore blue collar jobs.
You can then take a victory lap for pay off
the US deficit. That would make Elon Musk happy. Bring
foreign nations to heal on key disputes, kind of get
some leverage from them, and reduce Americans tax burdens. Early
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indicators have been success. Could this just be a shock
to the system. Sure, we'll see tomorrow when some deadlines
come to light just how serious the hard lines are
when it comes to what the deadlines will be. Trump,
by the way, has wrapped up a marathon cabinet meeting.
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It lasted an hour and forty five minutes. That's long,
but the last cabinet meeting ran a full two hours,
and at one point. Trump took a detour from his
comments to talk about how he's updated the furnishings around
the White House, saying it's really become quite a beautiful place.
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He talked about choosing paint colors and deciding whether to
add more gold accents. He pointed to the portraits of
historical presidents on the walls, lingering on the ornamental frames.
He says, you guys, you can't make this up. He says,
I'm a frame person. Sometimes I like the frames more
than I like the pictures. And I so agree with that.
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I so agree with that. I have frames in my house.
It's all about the frame. The frame costs more than
the picture. Frames are great. I am also a frame person.
Trump said he relocated a grandfather clock from the State
Department to the White House. Secretary of State Marco Rubio
laughed at that. He was sitting to his right, and
Trump said, if I see anything alike that I like,
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I'm allowed to take it. I think that grandfather Clock
is going to drive him nuts every hour on the hour,
sometimes on the half. Investors at Tesla have implored the board.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
To rain in Elon Musk.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
His latest stunt over the weekend about this third political
party business saw the stock tank at least seven percent yesterday.
Dan Ives is managing director of web Bush Securities and
they hold a lot of shares in Tesla, and he
said the board just can't sit here and watch this
go by without saying something and putting guardrails in. He said,
I'm hearing from any shareholders that the frustration is hitting
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a tipping point. They're pissed that he's not making the
main thing the main thing. Elon Musk has gotten distracted
with his Trump romance, with his love for Doge and
his responsibilities there, and now his current obsession about a
third political party. He doesn't have enough time to raise
his children, let alone raise Doge and raise Tesla and
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now raise a third political party. They're just not enough
hours in the day. And the Tesla board says this
has got to end. We'll see what his response, so
that he doesn't need to respond. I mean, he's the
founder of the company. But still, I mean he'll go
to where the money wants him to go. And the
money is talking, and they do not like his extra curriculars.
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Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior has gotten the okay
from Jello and kool Aid and Lucky Charms and others
to be rid of the synthetic dies by the end
of twenty twenty seven. But there is an obstacle and
it's a big one, and it's the eminem's. The M
and ms are saying, oh, hell no, you will not
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take our colors. We got rid of the tan eminem
in nineteen ninety five to make way for the blue eminem.
We're serious about our colors here, M and ms. And
I am too. I love eminems actually, And a couple
people said me the story with like the comment, I
know how much you like eminems.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Like this is a problem. People know how much I
like eminems.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Nineteen percent of processed foods include these synthetic dyes and
candy companies have the most products containing them, according to
the Journal of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics. They
say that this will be very expensive. Substitute dies could
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cost five to ten times more. Now, if Kennedy cannot
force companies to reformulate their products, states, they say may
do the job for him. Beginning in twenty twenty seven,
Texas will require warning labels on foods or beverages containing
certain additives, including dyes used.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
In M and ms.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
That's odd to me that tech is leading the way there,
all right, that's kind of an odd state to say
we'll put warning labels on our M and ms. In
twenty twenty eight, West Virginia will start banning foods because
there's no other problems in West Virginia to busy yourself
with other than eminem's.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
So apparently they are not going quietly into that no
color in my preservatives, good night. They've changed skittles, They've
taken away the titanium dioxide from skittles. Well, that sounds good.
That sounds pretty bad. Sounds like bad stuff. Titanium dioxide
is not something I want to ingest, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
But they're holding their ground. When it comes to the
M and MS.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
All right, somebody is making phone calls saying that they're
Marco Rubio, and it sounds a hell of a hell
of a lot like Marco Rubio because it's the AI
Marco Rubio. People, heads of state are picked up the
phone thinking Marco Rubio is on.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
The other side, but it's AI.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It's comical right now today as a story breaks, But
what does it mean for the future. Vladimir Putin going
to get a call from Trump, but it's not Trump.
We'll talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
What is it with our national security advisors and their
propensity to get screwed over by technology? Remember back in March,
our national security advisor, Michael Waltz inadvertently added a journalist
to the Signal group chat. This was the chat that
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discussed those highly sensitive US attack plans and Yemen with
the Hoho thies number. This is what led to Michael
Waltz no longer being the National Security Advisor and everyone
started talking about Signal and should it be you in
the government and should it be used for national security
Group meetings. Signal is used all the time by this administration. Well,
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in the aftermath of all that, Marco Rubio was named
as Trump's National security advisor, but the signal app continues
to be used. I'll set that aside there for this
news story that's breaking today. An impostor pretending to be
Secretary of State Marco Rubio has contacted foreign ministers, a
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US governor, and a member of Congress. This impostor has
sent them voice and text messages that mimic Rubio's voice
and writing style using AI powered software. Now, according to
people in the know, let's see who what is this
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guy's qualifications? Hanni Farred as a professor at the University
of California at Berkeley. Hanny's specialized is in digital forensics,
and he says operations of this nature do not require
sophisticated actors, and they're often successful. He says, because government
officials can be careless about data security. We're all careless
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about data security.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
If you're over the age of forty, you're probably not
in tune with everything that can be hacked all the time,
which is, oh, I don't know everything. Hanny Freid, this
professor from Berkeley says this is precisely why you shouldn't
use signal or other insecure channels for official government business.
He says, you need just fifteen to twenty seconds of
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audio of the person, which is obviously easy in Marco
Rubio's case. Anybody who's been in the public eye for
a minute, and he's been in there longer, many many,
many minutes. He says, You uploaded to any number of services,
click a button that says I have permission to use
this person's voice, and then you type what you want
to have him say. This could be fun. This could
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be a fun toy for us, couldn't it. We might
have to use this toy. Leaving voicemails, he says, is
particularly effective because it's not interactive. It's unclear if any
of these officials responded to the impersonator pretending to be
Marco Rubio. Now, at this point, US authorities who have
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dug into this do not know who is behind these
impersonation attempts, but they say that the culprit was probably
attempting to manipulate powerful government officials with the goal of
gaining access to information or accounts. They think they're hacking
into Marco Rubio's voice to get your password to your
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Netflix account. I don't think so. I think this is
very embarrassing. This is an embarrassing breach. The text messaging
and the encrypted messaging that goes on with Signal is
used all the time extensively. Is the word that people
in the know have used. This all began for Marco
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Rubio in mid June when the impostor, i should say,
created a Signal account using the display name Marco dot
Rubio at State dot gov to contact these unsuspecting foreign
and domestic diplomats and politicians. Now that display name is
not his real email address. Apparently this person left voicemails
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on signal for at least two targeted individuals, and in
one instance sent a text inviting the individual to communicate
on signal. He's not alone, Marco Rubio is not alone.
That's just the name that has risen to the surface,
maybe because of the notoriety. We all know who he is.
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But other State Department personnel were impersonated using email as well.
Now the State Department says it will carry out a
thorough investigation and continue to implement safeguards.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah. It's embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
It's embarrassing that another National security advisor has been bamboozled.
And it's not Marco Rubio's fault, but it kind of
is the fault of a system that continues to use
signal to communicate at this level. The FBI is not commenting.
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The State Department has urged US diplomats to report any
impersonation attempts to the Bureau of Diplomatic Security. Apparently this
is nothing new that this is going on. It's happening
in other countries too. Russia does this a lot. It's
going on between Russia and Ukraine quite a bit. We've
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heard about this for Canada at the Canadian Center for Cybersecurity.
They say that scammers have been using AI to impersonate
senior government officials, happening everywhere.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
I first heard about it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
During the Draft, when kids were using AI to pretend
that they were coaches from NFL teams and calling prospects,
and I was up in arms over that. This is
a little bit of a bigger deal, all right, Coming
up next AI. A good story about AI, how it
made a woman more human, helped her to communicate. We
all struggle communicating with other humans. If AI chatbots can
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help us, that's a good thing.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 1 (15:32):
I heard Kate's all he can do is eat zenchi
sushi around here.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
He's like constantly eating it.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
It must be free that's why.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Oh is he a free guy?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Free guy?
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Oh you get that email in the office. Yeah, he's
the first guy there. Yeah, first guy. Then I had
no idea he was free guy.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Oh yeah, free guy. And then he'll take some to go.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
So is he the free guy that will go? Okay?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Because right now, and by the way, David Vasse has
joined me, David Bass, host of Dodger Talk. He is
your face and your voice on the field, on the
road with your Los Angeles Dodgers best record in the
National League?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
That's correct. That's correct, even after losing four in a row.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah, we're going to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
But David Vasse has joined me because he had the
unfortunate experience of walking by my studio and I pulled
him inside.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
I'm the luckiest man in LA right now, what are
you talking about? Every man wants to be sitting at
this care right now, right.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, So we have free food all the time in
the kitchen here on the fourth floor, there's a table there, Donuts, cakes,
different celibratory foods make their way there.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
And radio people.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
We've talked about it for years, but we were full
of free people these stations, people who love free food,
even if you're not hungry, even if the food is expired.
People flocked to it. I don't know what it is
about us. I don't know why we all have food
and security, but it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
In the kitchen Massa, I don't know if you saw it,
there is a jaw of what appears to be maybe
candy of some kind. So me being a radio person,
I'm like, wore we out here? And I go up
to the table. I pick up the jar and it's
a jar of crickets.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Oh, no, crickets, chocolate covered crickets.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
I don't know if they're chocolate covered.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I know it's a Mexican delicacy to have crickets, but
it is not a delicacy in Burbank from what I know.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
No, I think that jar is going to remain full.
Maybe Kate's That's what I'm wondering. Kate's might take one.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Does Kates get into the crickets?
Speaker 5 (17:30):
That will be a great human experiment today, Yes it will.
Let's get a ring camera in there.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Okay, So what's going with the Dodgers? Worst ever lost
to the Astros at Dodger Stadium. A mess of a
blowout last night? Oh, Tawny kind of gets frustrated at
the plate. You don't see that a lot.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
It's not the best of times these days. I mean,
it's okay to lose or get swept by a team
in the regular season, but did it have to be
against the Astros and that little guy, say Altuve, you
know those that suspected him having a wire in twenty seventeen, Yes,
the face of the cheating Astros. He went off at
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Dodger Stadium despite the loudest booze I have heard in
the entire season. And he homers, he steals, he triples.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Makes you disgusted.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Oh awful, it was hard.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
And is he the kind of guy?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
He seems like the kind of guy you don't know
these people, but like he seems the kind of guy
that would thrive off hate.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Yeah, he certainly did this weekend at Dodger Stadium. Yeah,
he thrived off the hate, that's for sure. And then
yesterday the Brewers are the best team record wise in
the National League since May twenty second. So the Dodgers
are banged up, hurt and not playing their best and
they've run into two buzz saws the last two series.
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And it's not getting any easier because they're going to
San Francisco to play the Giants.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
So there's still six games up over the Giants. The
Giants have hit the skids ever since they brought that
problem child into their luck, that's right. Has that thrown
off the chemistry there? What's the deal with the Giants?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, I just don't think they're good enough.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Okay, they're really good in their home ballpark because going
back to when they won the World Series, they bring
in these older pitchers that pitch really well in their
home ballpark, but they don't pitch well on the road,
and for whatever reason, they just haven't got it going yet.
But when the Dodgers come to town this week and
in San Francisco first time, by the way, the Dodgers
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will be there, they seem to play their best.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yeah, so we'll see what.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
We'll all be Altuve, their Rapi won't be. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
So the injury situation is it pitching, is it position players?
And is this an Okaya time to be injured? What
does a timetable look like? We're in early July. Is
everyone going to be healthy for when it matters?
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:47):
So the pitching's getting better. Tyler Glass now is going
to pitch tomorrow. He's been out basically the entire year.
Blake Snell's going to pitch right after the All Star breaks.
So the pitching's getting better, But now all of a sudden,
position players are getting hurt. Taoscar Hernandez is hitting a
buck thirty three because he's been trying to play through
a left groin injury. Now he's filed a ball off
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his left foot. Has him played the last two games?
Key k Hernandez a fan favorite on the IL because
he hurt his shoulders sliding a month ago try to
play through it. So now he's on the IL and
who else? Max Muncy? Yeah, the night Kershaw got his
three thousand strikeout, hurt his knee, got a left knee
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bone bruises, out for a month, and you know he
was the best hitter on the team for the last
forty games, so that's more of a concern than the pitching.
So throw out the records. This week, I was just
telling one of the guys in the hallway there, you know,
everybody's like, what's wrong with the Dodgers? What's wrong with
the Dogs?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Sorry? They can't go one sixty two?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
And oh, isn't that the funniest thing? And it happens
to you. It happens to be two if the Chargers lose,
if there's an embarrassing game or something like that, and
my phone lights up like like I played it down,
Like I'm in the locker room.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
You're like, what's going on. I don't know what's going on.
I'm reporting on the team.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
You're not the quarterback, you're not the wide receiver. Like
it just happens, right, You're gonna lose games, and there's
reasons underlying reasons why.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, Well hopefully it's just a rough patch for the Dodgers.
What a fun time to be a Dodger fan. It's
an all star team every night watching these guys. So
thank you, David Vese. Love to hear you, love hearing
you on Dodger talk. It always feels like I'm just
hanging out with a friend.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Ah, thank you, Air Hug, Air Hug.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 4 (21:39):
I talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I think that every time a third party has come up,
there's been this feeling of, oh, well, now's the time. Sure,
it's been tried in the past and it's been unsuccessful,
but now people are frustrated enough. I think people always
feel like they're frustrated enough when they when they vote
for the Ralph Naders or the Gary Johnson's or what
have you, some of them playing spoilers to more of
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the traditional candidates. The first reactions to the DC Superman
movie are pouring in. It's going to be released this weekend.
One film critic, Brian Sudfeld called the movie a bold
yet faithful adaptation of the superhero, and that's kind of
what you want when you're talking about a remake of
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a classic like Superman.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Faithful yet bold.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Journalist Brandon Davis gave praise to the performance of Clark.
Kent said that his chemistry with Rachel Brosnahan's Lewis Lane
a big plus for the film. Of course, there are
some naysayers, but who wants to hear that Superman hits
theaters on Friday? Those two back to back weekends, Well
it's the summer you expected. But two back to back
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weekends with big movies that you want to see in
the theater, right Dinosaurs? With Jurassic World and now Superman,
you're not going to get bigger film. And then f
one with Racing, you're not going to get bigger than
those three save for some sort of Tom Cruise thirty
years ago jumping out of a plane. Well, AI music
is infiltrating everything, just like we're seeing AI infiltrate everything.
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Music is no different. But it's sneaky, isn't it. It's
so sneaky. AI slop is what they're calling it in
Wired magazine and now Wired dot Com. AI slop, they say,
is flooding every single digital platform music streaming at services
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no exception.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
I told you.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
About how I was listening to Spotify and one of
the songs that was just recommended to me on my
way into work was a country song. Sounds a lot
like the country music I listened to, except this one
was a gay sex song about some man's booty bouncing
out of his booty shorts.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
I don't even remember, but all I know is.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I thought there was a sweet love song, which it
is probably, but it got real dirty, real quick, and
way into the ass department. And that's what they're saying
about this AI generated music, that some of it is
pretty riskue obscene. In some cases. There is the make
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Love to My Esser? Have you heard that hot track?
Make Love to My Esser? AI generated track from an
artist called Banded Vinyl Collection. Brace Belden is a host
of a popular political podcast called True Annon Okay, says
that Spotify recently queued up this song after he finished
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listening to alt country legend Lucinda Williams nineteen ninety two
album Sweet Old World. He says, Brace, just like I said,
I didn't realize the song was AI at first. I
thought it may have been some obscene joke record from
the eighties or nineties. A person behind Banned Vinyl Collection
goes by the name JB would not identify themselves confirm
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that his output of X rated novelty songs are made
with a I. I cannot tell you the other titles
of his song songs. I may do that if Gary
were here, because then there'd be one of us after
I got suspended. But since it's just me today, unfortunately
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we don't have the joy of talking about the specifics
of those titles because they are that X rated. He
says he is making some money off the music, and
he does say that the prophet comes from a couple
other streaming services, not Spotify. He does make some money
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off Spotify, about two hundred bucks a month. Then there
is then there is not just Spotify, but there is
a French music streaming app Deezer, and it says it
tracks the volume of AI songs on its platform, and
it's found that in recent months, the AI detection system
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has flagged eighteen percent of tracks uploaded per day. Eighteen
percent of tracks uploaded to this streaming service are AI generated.
That's a huge percentage. Now, this streaming service does flag
and remove some AI content, but other major streamers don't
yet have a way for listeners to block AI generated songs.
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Like if I wanted to go on Spotify right now
and say I no more bouncing off my booty gens songs,
no thank you, I can't do that. The algorithm won't
let me do that. Here's a wild story. Andy Kush
is a musician and editor at an independent music publication.
It's called Hearing Things. Think John Cusack right in the movie.
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This is a guy who prides himself on independent music,
not mainstream stuff, finding the diamond in the rough, not
popular music, real music. Andy Kush is a friend on
a friend of a fan of He says, my girlfriend
and I were hanging out in Prospect Park. He says
there was a guy blasting some sort of smooth jazz instrumental.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Guitar music nearby.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Now, Andy and his girlfriend both played guitar, and they
were like, what is that.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
So they go up and ask the guy in the park,
what are you playing?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And the guy shows Andy Kush this YouTube compilation video.
So Cush is like, thanks, I'll check it out. So
he goes home, looks the video up, and discovers that
it was AI generated. Andy Kush, the music purist, is
wooed by AI generated guitar music. He says it was
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a weird experience. It prompted somewhat of a crisis for me.
He said the music was corny overall, of course. Now,
he says that, but he had been genuinely impressed by
the guitarist proficiency. Finding out that it was AI made
made Andy realize it may be harder to write off
AI music than he thought. Around the same time he
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was listening to these riffs in the park, AI music
took another leap.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
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