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October 6, 2025 29 mins
Gary and Shannon close out the show with a packed final hour. Shannon’s still pushing for Gary to celebrate the show’s 10-year anniversary with a piercing before diving into #WhatsHappening: from TMZ leaking footage of Mark Sanchez’s altercation to Dodgers playoff updates, Ghislaine Maxwell’s denied appeal, Taylor Swift’s record-breaking box-office weekend, and Governor Newsom facing pressure to crack down on SoCal’s copper thefts.Then it’s #GaSFantasy4Play as the pair review their NFL week 5 picks before pivoting to weather updates on Tropical Storm Jerry and rescue efforts for 200 hikers stranded on Mount Everest. They wrap the hour with a #MotivationMonday clip from Friday Night Lights and an intriguing discussion on “quiet cracking” the new counterpart to quiet quitting.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yeah, but it's one that no one's going to see.
I don't even think my wife is going to see that.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
She doesn't look at your crash.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
You'd have to look for it.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
I spent a lot of time back there. No, no
smart lady.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
I mean, I don't know. Maybe it's great. Hey, let's
get to something else. Huh. I think I threw out
my pile.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
That's not a surprise.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
I know what's happening.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
I threw it out.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Oh, here it is, I found it. Okay, what else
is going on?

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Speaker 1 (00:51):
Mark Sanchez appeared to be in a lot of pain.
Video has just surfaced in the past hour after Saturday
stabbing incident in Indianapolis as this new surveillance footage that
shows him. It's black and white, it's grainy, but it
shows him kind of holding his torso a little bit
walking kind of staggering. After his altercation with the delivery

(01:13):
truck driver. You can see his blood soaked shirt in
his abdomen area.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Mark Sanchez thirty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Now, this video was captured about twelve thirty A m
apparently got into it with this van driver, this delivery
truck driver, who was in a loading dock. Mark Sanchez
didn't like where he was parked, made his way into
the vehicle, threatened this guy. The guy pepper sprays him,
doesn't stop Mark Sanchez, so the guy whips out a
knife and starts stabbing him. Mark Sanchez assaulting him all

(01:42):
the while he looks like he got the worst of it.
In the pictures that have been floating around of the
truck driver in the emergency room, the misdemeanors, at least
one of them elevated to a felony this morning when
prosecutors saw the extent of the damage to the truck driver.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Man, this is just weird, So they have surveillance footage
shows him jogging into the alley and approaching this box truck.
This is supposedly a guy delivering friar oil to the hotel.
According to the cause probable cause effidavit, Sanchez opened the
driver's door, the truck climbed inside, The man told detectives.

(02:19):
The driver told detectives that Sanchez appeared intoxicate, intoxicated, smelled
of alcohol, and claimed to have spoken to the hotel manager,
who said that the truck was not supposed to be there.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
I feel like you.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Could definitely shed some light on how that conversation selled.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Here's what I don't quite get. It's I know what
you're I know what you're trying to do.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Did you talk to the hotel manager?

Speaker 2 (02:42):
The men circled the truck before the struggle broke out
near a large dumpster. Hey hey, man, what are you
doing here? What do you know? I said, Hey, what
are you? What are you doing here? I just talked
to the maggager, the manager hotel. Hotel maggager told me
you are not supposed to be here. Oh no, you're

(03:05):
not to move this truck. It's you not half a
move his truck. I'm gonna move it for you. What's
worse than going a Raiders game at this point? What's
worse than being known as the butt fumble guy? This
He's a sixty nine year old truck driver hotel manager
told told.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
You gotta move truck A rough look for a nice guy.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Okay, Well, Dodgers take control against the Phillies headed into
Game two of the National League Division Series tonight. First
pitch about three hours away there in Philadelphia. Our friend
enlightened us. It's a two two one format. Two games
in Philly, two games in La if necessary, and then
one back in Philly to wrap it up. If they

(03:51):
need to go five games, it is best of five.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
I have to sneeze.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
They said that Shoho Tani not only did he strike out,
is it a lot of twelve thirteen something like that?
He had four strikeouts himself.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, that was not good. I think that's the first
time that that happened.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Not for him, No, he's I think they said he
did it twice in the regular season. Oh really, four
strikeout games.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
The Supreme Court today rejected Gallaine Maxwell's challenge to her
criminal conviction. They said they will not look at this.
This means that her conviction on three counts in her
twenty year criminal sentence will remain. This case was one
in a list of dozens of appeals that piled up
in recent months that the justices rejected. They're starting a

(04:38):
new nine month court term. As you mentioned, conversion therapy
will be one of the cases they take up.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
In twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Taylor Swift had a bunch of album sales, but more importantly,
she won the box office this weekend thirty four million
dollars for the Life of a Showgirl movie that was
really included the Fate of Ophelia video, some behind the
scenes stuff, descriptions of each of the songs, and her
explaining what the song the Wood is about.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Not a good look, ladies.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
If you're happy with your partner's genitals, you don't have
to sing about it.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
You can keep that to yourself.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Law enforcement elected officials got together this morning to ask
avenus to do something when it comes to copper wire theft,
calling for tougher laws. This has been a blight for
a long time, costing. You probably know someone.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
People in repair bills.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
The sixth Street Bridge in LA has been in the
dark since thieves ripped open electrical boxes and took the
copper wires. People a Robin neighborhoods left and right of
this stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
How does this.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
That?

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Remember when that bridge, that six Street bridge open and
it was just going to be iconic. It was going
to be it and then.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
It was ruined, right, it was ruined. It's amazing takeovers.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
They still use it in commercials, but if you look carefully,
they have they have gone in and had to CEEGI
the tire marks off of the bridge.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
I mean, this is one of those broken windows type
of situations.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
You know.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
LA just last year received forty six thousand street light
outage reports, forty percent due to copper theft. So there's
a bill on the Governor's desk right now which would
basically provide a chain of custody, paperwork chain for copper.
It would enhance scrutiny on junk dealers recyclers, requiring them
to provide detail records, verify sellers identities and ownership of

(06:45):
the copper.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Great when we come back Gas Fantasy for play Crazy Weekend.
To some degree, it kind of continues a theme that
we've seen that no game is over until it's over.
In the NFL this.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
Year, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Have you heard about quiet cracking? This doesn't have to
do with canyon piercing.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
It seems like it should have everything to do with
canyon piercing.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
I agree, but it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Oh, no, quiet cracking.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
It's something going on at the workplaces.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Okay, a couple We'll get to that later. Yeah, a
couple of stories going on. Negotiators for Israel and Hamas
meeting in Egypt today to discuss the latest peace plan.
Federal judge late last night temporarily blocked the Trump administration
from deploying any National Guard units to Oregon. The originally
the judge, Karen immergot appointed by President Trump in his

(07:44):
first term, said that no Oregon National Guard units could
be sent to Portland. And then the President said, okay,
well then they'll come from California or Texas. And the
judge said no. I said no. I think is what
she said. Officially. Also, the federal government still dragging toward
its second week in this staring contest that exists there

(08:06):
in Washington, DC.

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Speaker 1 (08:42):
It was a wild weekend, just like the last in
the NFL. I don't even remember what games we chose
for Gas, Fantasy, for play.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Elmer knows all I can.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
I can tell you.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
All right, let's get into it.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
I give me sorry, I get my small book out.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Okay. I love that he's got a small little blug.
It's like a bookie. All good bookies have a small.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Little notebook, just a little one. You know.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Some guys have a back pocket. They'll put it into.
Elmer doesn't wear pockets on his pants.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
I don't. No, you don't, wait, never should, or you
don't use them.

Speaker 6 (09:17):
I don't use them.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
You don't have pockets on your pants right now? That's
my question. I got the forward pockets, the forward.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Pocket, and I just said that I had no knowledge
of that. I just said Elmer doesn't have pockets, and
I was I was accurate.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
I love cargo pants the day have a lot of pockets.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
What was our first game? By the way, Elmer.

Speaker 7 (09:35):
It was the Giants versus Saints, and Shannon was like Giants.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
Gary was like Giants. I was Saints.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Now you chose the Saints because we didn't, I believe.
I said, the Saints are finding new ways to lose
and the Giants are coming off of that fresh wind
with their brand new quarterback Jackson Dart.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
That was a ball game.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
I mean I when I'm working on Sundays, I get
glimpses of the morning games and I I don't see
any of the afternoon games if the Chargers playing in
the afternoon, But that one looked like the Giants had
the upper hand for the majority of the beginning of
that game. Don't stop me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
I know that Jackson Dark got hurt. I don't know
if he ever got actually taken out of the game,
but he was getting pounded those guys on the Saints.
Was it was Some of those hits were a little egregious,
and it didn't feel like the rest were doing much
about it. But yeah, turned into a Saints win twenty six.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Fo looks like he may have had some turn overs there,
let's see here. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, fourteen to three lead early in the first half.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
I think that's what I have. Giants gave away possession
five times. You can't do that and win.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
You just can't.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
What was our second game?

Speaker 6 (10:53):
It was the Eagles versus the Broncos.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Now I had a feeling this may be the fall
of the Eagles perfect season. Not that it was going
to be a perfect season, but certainly their undefeated record
because that Broncos defense is legit.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I think this is the almer who picked a witch
on this one. I think this is one.

Speaker 6 (11:12):
I went the other way, all.

Speaker 7 (11:13):
Right, So Shannon went Eagles, Uh No, you went Eagles too, Gay,
all right, I went Eagles as well because I was like,
let me follow the winning team, and.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, that's gonna bite a lot of people in the
ass all season long. If the first five weeks or
any indication of that.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
It's hard to bet against the Broncos. No, just to
bet against the or to bet on the waiting team,
like it's just it's it's anyone's guess. Yeah, yeah, third game.

Speaker 7 (11:41):
Third game was Panthers and Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I believe I just went with home field advantage because
these are two dumpster teams.

Speaker 6 (11:49):
Yeah, he went Panthers the home team. Yes, yeah, okay, yeah, Gary,
you went Dolphins.

Speaker 7 (11:55):
Yeah, and I went Dolphins because we were like, oh,
let's do it for Keana.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Right, didn't work.

Speaker 6 (12:01):
Did not know.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
By the way, Elmer, usually the team that's listed second
is the home team.

Speaker 6 (12:10):
Okay, so the bottom one is like.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yes, usually that's not always. And then our final game.

Speaker 6 (12:19):
It was Cowboys versus.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
The j I remember this. You picked the Jets because
you're from New York.

Speaker 6 (12:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, and then we said the Jets are trash, don't
do it, dude.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
The Cowboys are also trash, but not as not as
bad as bad.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
They're orderly trash, it seems.

Speaker 6 (12:38):
Yeah, organized trash.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Maybe organized track speaking, it's track well separated, but it's
still trash.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Speaking of trash man, the Ravens are in a whole
world of hell. I mean, Lamar gets the MVP trophy
sitting on the bench as oh my god, they're that bad.
He has hit and a lot of sins with that.
Baltimore Ravens team especially the lack of.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Any sort of defense.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
When you think about the Baltimore Ravens, you think about defense.
Texans had a rookie wide receiver score put them up
thirty yesterday in Baltimore, and then do the Ray Lewis dance.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
In the end zone.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
I mean, wow, de moralizing, that is an awful way
to go about it.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
If you're not watching baseball tonight, Dodgers Phillies will be
it just after three in Cubs Brewers just after six.
Chiefs and Jaguars will meet tonight on Monday Night football.
Where is that game that's in Jacksonville?

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Okay? Interesting?

Speaker 1 (13:39):
And Xavier worthies ankle swoll up on the flight, So
he landed back on the injury report. I'm sure that
they'll get that figured out. Time to go for him tonight.
Swoll up on the flight, Well, everything swallows up on
a flight.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Well, now what am I gonna do with my can?

Speaker 3 (13:57):
You never seen your ankles on a flight.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
I don't never taken my shoes off from the socks
off to look at my ankles.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
You've never felt that like on a long flight where
you get swollen.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
You gotta get, you gotta get, You got to get
out of that deep vein thrombosis. Yeah. I I don't
take flights long enough.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
That's true. You take short flights that It's a good
way to go through life.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Baby size flights, all.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Right, coming up next motivational Monday.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Oh, we got a good one.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
I need motivator, going back to one of.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
The wells that we like to dip into every once
in a while. It's not a repeat, but it's going
to sound familiar.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Awesome.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
A couple of a couple of quick weather stories. Number one,
we saw hurricanes Imelda and Umbertoe and the Fujiwara effect
that they were having on each other. You couldn't get
through a day without it. There is another storm that
could soon become the next tropical storm. Currently is VEST

(15:00):
nine L has a seventy percent chance of turning into
a tropical cyclone over the next week. If it does,
it would be named Jerry. Currently in the way out
in the Central Atlantic. Projected that the storm will approach
Puerto Rico before it turns north and potentially skirt the

(15:20):
east coast of the United States.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Can we play baby bash cyclone every time we mentioned
weather Baby Bash.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Chinese rescuers are trying to evacuate hundreds of hikers that
are stranded on the eastern slope of Mount Everest. It's
a very heavy snowfall, blanketed case.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Did you think was gonna happen?

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Nearly three hundred and fifty hikers have been able to
get to safety at a rendezvous point in the township
of Kudang.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Doesn't that sound like people are over populating Mount Everest?
If there's a thousand trapped and three hundred and fifty esscued,
it seems like too many people are trying to go
do the Everest thing.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Local news outlets had initially reported one thousand people affected
by the blizzard. Local rescue officials were not immediately available
of to explain why the discrepancy in the numbers. Some
hikers shoveled snow out of their tents in the blizzard.
Others waded in a line through the snowstorm and poor visibility.
The hikers have been trapped at about sixteen thousand feet.

(16:20):
That's not too bad. I mean, I don't think I've
ever climbed to sixteen thousand feet, but that's not too bad.
That's not thirty five plus thousand feet being trapped. But
they did say the snowfall was much more intense than
was expected, which is why a lot of them got stuck.
And then another chance we could see some late week

(16:42):
rain here in southern California because yet another tropical storm
is making its way. Tropical Storm Priscilla is going to
die down by the time it makes its way north
into southern California.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
If you're lacking motivation getting into your week, that's why
we created Motivation Monday, so you can tune in every
Monday at this time and get a little jolt, get
a little syringe full of motivation straight into the veins.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
And hey, maybe this is one of those days where, gosh,
you thought for certain that you were going to, you know,
not feel hung over today, and lo and behold, you're
still a little hungover today. Maybe you had a fight
with the Friar oil delivery guy. Right, I don't know,
I mean, gud, just me going like a Friar oil

(17:29):
delivery guy. Well, if he's parked on the wrong spot
when I'm trying to do so thet you park? How
about this trying to show how good I am how
fast I am. This is going to go straight into
the vein because I know that this is your flavor
of heroin.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Oh. I love that you're saying these words.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Friday Night Lights TV Season two, Okay, Episode five, Yep,
all right, Dylan Panthers Okay are falling apart. Matt and
Smash have been benched because they can't get along. You're
talking QB one, yeah, and the number one college recruited

(18:11):
running back. They cannot get along, and it looks like
the team is falling apart. The episode is called Let's
get it on Coach Taylor. By the way, back in
Dylan Saracen, Smash can't get it together. Who comes to
the rescue but Landry? What Landry has not played at

(18:38):
You were going to say Riggins. I don't even think
he's in that season. I mean, I know he's in
the season, I don't think he's playing at that point.
Landry's not played one snap of football for the Dylan Panthers.
But after the first half goes down to disaster, Coach
Taylor's asking for some help.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
Out of all.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
You's got something to say, someone better have something to say.

Speaker 6 (19:05):
Coach citizens smiles.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
It down, sarahsn Smash don't play defense, they don't play
special teams. And last time I checked, Sarahcen Smash, we're
supposed to be supposed to be two members of the
black Man offense. Hold in that locker room. Who's got

(19:28):
something to say?

Speaker 4 (19:31):
I mean, maybe the hole is greater than the sun
of its parts.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Keep it shut, Saracen, What you say? What'd you say?

Speaker 4 (19:39):
I mean, maybe we're forgetting that way God, maybe we're
forgetting that we're a lot stronger together than we're ever
going to be alone. I realized that I am not
anywhere close to one of the most talented players in
this room. And I know I've never played one reel
down of football, but but I know that we neither

(20:00):
We can either win together or we can lose alone.
And I know it sounds stupid, I but it is
an honor just to just to stand in here with y'all.

Speaker 8 (20:16):
That's clear, eyes, full hearts watch football.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Guess what did they win the game?

Speaker 1 (20:40):
I wanted to enjoy that, but I sat there thinking
about how pissed off I am still about that Chargers
game yesterday. Sorry, I really wanted to enjoy it. So
angry you didn't look up once.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
I know.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
It was so awful by the way, played by the
very incredible actor Jesse Plemons.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
And you can feel the care in his voice. Cares
so much despite not having any skin in the game.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Quite literally the cleanest uniform in the locker room, and
he was the one. Yeah, who's just lucky to be there,
just happy to be f man. F up next, quiet cracking, Yeah,
Gary and Shannon. Okay, you got to run a lap
before you come back in here. You might want to
go work some out, get to get the giggles out,

(21:32):
if you will.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Apparently, the state of Illinois and the city of Chicago
are now also trying to sue President Trump in an
attempt to keep the National Guard out of those areas.
This comes as the administration said it was planning to
deploy three hundred Illinois National Guard troops to the Chicago
area for at least sixty days, according to a memo

(22:03):
from the Secretary of Defense. In addition, hundreds of National
Guard members from Texas are sent preparing to be sent
to Illinois. According to Governor J. B. Pritzker last night,
but again, the city of Chicago the state of Illinois
are expected to sue the Trump administration over the National
Guard deployments.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Mark Sanchez now facing a felony charge charge in Indianapolis
after that fight that left him in the hospital with
stab wounds.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
The other guy looks like he got the worst of it.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
The truck driver who Mark Sanchez started fighting over a
parking spot late Friday night early Saturday morning now facing
a felony charge after prosecutors reviewed the extent of the
injuries of the truck driver.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Quiet cracking is apparently a bad epidemic among workplaces.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
I don't know why we need to label everything, but
it's a very common reflex these days. If we see
a trend among people, we have to put a label
on it. I believe it started with parenting trends and
now it just has blossomed into workplace trends and the like.
You know quiet quitting, right, remember quiet quitting where you

(23:18):
just stop working.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
It's very you know, office space esque.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Now it's quiet cracking, which seems to be the crack
before the quit.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Why does everything also have to be so passive? Aggressive? Yeah,
that's the other aspect of it that it just seems
like it's you're mad, but you're not that mad. I mean,
you're mad, but you're not mad enough to do anything
about it. I don't like that state.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
I don't like the state of just sitting here being
passive aggressively upset about something.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
I like burning the place down with my.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Fire, like I like if I'm mad about something, making
it known it feels better. Then you just sit in
your upsetment quietly stewing as you quietly crack from the upsetment.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Doesn't seem healthy, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Quiet cracking described by researchers as a learning as something
deeper and harder to detect. A growing recent study said
that people who may hold a private grudge against their
employer but keep showing up to work.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
That's just lazy, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Persistent feeling of workplace unhappiness that leads to disengagement, poor performance,
and an increased desire to quit.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
You know, this kind of behavior is worse than someone
who just burns the place down with their anger.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
This is worse.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Because this is quietly makes its way into everybody else's morale.
When somebody is disenchanted in the workplace, but sticks around.
The bad vibes make their way like tentacles, and they
grow and they move around, and they get into all
sorts of places.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
I think it's answer is very very much so oh,
and it needs.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
To be people need to be fired, and people aren't
being fired, and people aren't quitting, and that's why you
get places with bad morale.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
If you don't like working somewhere, get the hell out
of there. You're not doing yourself a favor. You're not
during the people around you a favor. You're not doing
anyone any favors. In fact, you're making things worse for
yourself and people around you.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
They say that it's not just unhappiness that contributes to
this quiet cracking, that sometimes it has to do with
job uncertainty. Employees can feel secure in their roles today,
but ask them about it tomorrow and confidence drops sharply.
They said. Companies with companies with retention initiatives or internal
surveys that show their people are overall satisfied with their

(25:43):
jobs might be at risk of having a false sense
of security about the mindset of those employees. Adding to
job in security, are economic in uncertainties. Thirty eight percent
of people said that their top concern about their employment
was the economy and also contributing manage gerial disconnects, lack
of training, lack of recognition that they said, basically, managers

(26:06):
could be the ones that reach out. It could be
the lifeline to support their employees and prevent that quiet cracking, empathy,
active listening matter more than any ya. But the thing
is is like active listening, you know, when you're when
you're just being bsked, when someone's just like, now, tell
me what you don't like, and you're and you say,

(26:28):
this is what I don't like, and then they listen actively. Yeah,
but I don't know if we're going to be able.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
To change it.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
But that's just the way it is. It's almost worse,
you know, And that's why you set the fire. You
got to set the fire.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
That's what you always keep it in cyndiary device in
the vehicle just in case there is a decrease in engagement.
Obviously reduction in momentum that those disengaged employees can become
bottlenecks depending on sort of the flow of work where
there it goes.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
I remember when I was in Sacramento is the last
time I felt like I got to get out of here.
I got to get out of this job. I had
been there too long. I loved the station, but I
had to get out of there, you know. I was
like basically barely making rent. I had to move to
a bigger market. I had to Like, I was there
too long. I got to get out of here. But
I was vocal about it. I was like, I got
to get out of here.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
You know.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
I couldn't just be quiet with that, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
And maybe that's just the way that I'm built, But
being quiet with that, it would just it would I
think it would make me sick.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
It would like it would give me a cold, or
it would a lot depressed.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Did you hold in?

Speaker 8 (27:32):
No?

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Holding things in seems very difficult, but I can I
can see where if I did have to hold it
in and show some sort of maturity and professionalism, how
it would be poisonous.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
It would eat away at you. Yeah, they say, among
other things, regular recognition would be one way to prevent
quiet quitting. Management training, training your leaders to struggle with
the who do struggle with, shaping the day to day experience, expectations,
workload balance, all of that sort of thing. They say
that a lot of times their workload is unmanageable, or

(28:08):
that they don't know their role in the company. That's
it's one of those things where it's I make the crack,
but my grandfather would never have allowed for quiet cracking.
You either did your job or you didn't.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
You have to just rely on your own personal pride.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Sometimes I'm going to go to work and I'm going
to do a good job, and I don't care if
anyone's going.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
To tell me what my role in the company is
or what have you.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Just just go show up and do a good job
for you or even even if it's not just for you,
for your people around right around exactly exactly. Bob in
the next cubicle can benefit if you do a good job.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
That's right. Bob's here. By the way, did you see Bob,
Bob Schmidz here?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Was he really? Yeah? Oh? Nice, nice to see Bob's
actually here in the Bob and the other cubicles back there. Yeah,
how about that John Cobelt show is coming up next.
We will see you tomorrow, and I request the do
you stay dry everybody? I see you and I appreciate you.
At this job place. Does that help?

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Is that good?

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Try it again tomorrow. You've been listening to The Gary
and Shannon Show. You can always hear us live on
KFI AM six forty nine am to one pm every
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