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December 10, 2025 27 mins

Gary & Shannon launch the show by unveiling their brand-new Elf on a Shelf dolls lovingly glue-gunned into existence by Gary’s wife. They rally the audience to help name the elves using the Talkback feature on the iHeart app (and following us on IG @GaryandShannon), trading stories about glue-gun mishaps and teasing Tim Conway Jr.’s appearance later today at the grand opening of Cadillac Pasadena.
Then the pair dive into Trump’s fiery speech in Pennsylvania and shift into holiday mode with Amy King’s review of the Enchant pop-up at Santa Anita Park — complete with ice rink, lights, and all the festive trimmings. Follow along on Instagram @GaryandShannon to submit your elf names!Listeners’ holiday mail hits the air next, including a magnetic Santa butterfly and an unsolicited knee-replacement x-ray. Amy explains her rules for choosing a properly “spicy” elf name before Gary & Shannon close the hour with the wild story of a Royal Caribbean passenger who died after reportedly downing 33 drinks — and whether the cruise line should really be blamed.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to k
if I Am six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show
on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Get enough of the
Philip Rivers memes. You know the lengths a man will
go to avoid being forced to spend the holidays with
his family. I mean it's so great. It's just it's

(00:25):
just so there's so much material there. You know. Philip
Rivers is uh is right below Matt Stafford when it
comes to passing yards career passing yard. So it's like,
not so fast, buddy, really coming back?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Gary and Shannon k if I Am six forty Live
everywhere on the Ihear Radio app. Welcome to Wednesday, December tenth.
It's a producer Matt's birthday today. It is happy birthday
to producer Man.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I wish we could do something for Matt. He's not
like us. We're Walt, give me, sommy, give me what
I want a pizza with all those meats? Could you
could you get them to put all the pepperoni, find
out how much pepperoni they have at round table, and
then put that all the pepperoni on our pizza. That's
what we usually do because because we're beef.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Remember all that pepperoni you were gonna throw away yesterday
pulling out the trash put it on my pizza.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Okay, So I'm really, really, really excited with what I
found on your desk this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
My wife had this idea that we should do some
ELF on the shelf stuff around the station here, brilliant.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
So uh, I.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Put purchased a couple of elves on shelves if you will,
and they are identical.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
They were.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
They were sold to me as a two pack, a
boy and a girl elf. Yeah, they were not. I
don't know how to tell this. I don't know how
to sex an ELF. I don't know how to determine
the gender because there's very little in the terms of
the gender or anything too much. So my wife had
the idea, well, why don't we take a barbie and

(01:59):
take her hair off and put it on the other elf,
the one with the bigger blue eyes, and that could
be the Shannon elf.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
So she did.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
I showed you the picture surgery on a barbie last night, Frankenstein,
like where she had popped the legs off and the
head off at everything, trim the hair, the hairs curl
and then put the hair that was from the barbie,
and then really and then put the hair on the
elf so that you could have an elf that looks
like you.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
I love the she alf.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Oh not to mention, and she's she pried those blue
heels off of the barbie.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, put the super cute Mary Jane heels. They're like that.
They're like the not even Mary Jane, They're like the
They're very cool. I love I love I love the elf.
I love the she elf. So we are going to
do a lot of stuff with these elves.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Uh and and if people have ideas, listen, there are
some hilarious uh things that people have done with their
elf on shelf product.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
But I think we start off with just the basic
Elf on shelf behaviors. As they're hidden and we have
to find them.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
I don't know how to do that.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
What do you mean? It's like they play hide and seek?

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Who's going to hide them?

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Elmer?

Speaker 3 (03:11):
You think Elmer doesn't come well, I can handle the response.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Well.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
The key though, Elmer, is that you have to then
take a picture of where you've hidden them, and.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Then should we name them something? Yes, yeah, let's name
them something. So we're going to need help with that.
Use the talk back feature on the iHeartRadio app. Just
click that microphone. Let us know what the name should be.
Should we post a picture of them so that people
can see them, so that they can see them to
name them.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Oh yeah, we're gonna have to.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Okay, where are we going to put that? Instagram?

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Matt's idea is probably Instagram? Is that right?

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Follow us at and you'll see us on there, and
you'll see the elves, and we need names for them.
They are adorable and that's a couple of weeks worth
of fun guaranteed.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
I know, I'm super excited. I can't believe your wife
did the surgery. I'm like really impressed. There's glue. There's
a glue gun involved. Yeah, yeah, I didn't know that
we didn't have one. I always thought we did and
she had to go buy a new one. I thought
I had a glue gun. Not so's an insignificant story

(04:17):
that I am just going to pull the rip cord
on about a glue guar. Did you?

Speaker 3 (04:22):
I thought I did know we're glue gun one.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
The last time I needed a glue gun, I thought
I had a glue gun and I didn't I had
to order one on it. It is a great next day.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
That's why people listen to this show. Gosh darn it.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Oh we got mailed too, Should we open our mail?

Speaker 3 (04:38):
We got mail.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
We got to tell you about Conway's big event later today.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Oh, we got a text from him. He invited us
to something he did.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Actually, he's going to be a Cadillac of Pasadena today
and I would go.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
I got to think at thorson.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
A special note tonight, by the way, is that they've
got something special for the VIPKFI listeners. They've opened up
some eclusive spots for tonight's private VIP broadcast. So this
broadcast from four to seven is today at the grand
opening of Cadillac Pasadena. You get to get to hang
out with Conway Live and his special guest host Jay Leno.

(05:13):
But you've got to email. You've got to email it
is a private event. Conwayshow at iHeartMedia dot com you
put Cadillac Remote in the subject line and you could
could get that special invite to be there tonight. So
again you do have to email. It is a private
KFI VIP event. But there are a few spots that

(05:35):
are still open conwayshow at iHeartMedia dot Com in the
subject line right the words Cadillac remote and they'll give
you potentially a special.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
I love a Cadillac. There's just something and it's because
my dad was in love with Cadillacs and his dad
was in love with Cadillacs, and there's just something about
the Cadillac that transcends the generations. Like it's been cool
my whole life. It will always be cool.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
We were talking earlier about my grandparents and having lived
through the depression. The one splurge was the cattle.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, I meantes one.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
It would have been a late seventies.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
I'd have to check the model for sure, but I
remember it was gold and it had doors.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yes the side.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
My dad also had a gold what so it's so oh?
Speaking of gangsters, have you seen the Ditty documentary?

Speaker 3 (06:29):
No, but I can't wait.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
My god, I almost stayed up all night to watch
everything available on that.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I threw it in the hopper last night as a
potential watch and my wife was like, it's going to
be creepy, and I said, I.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Thought the same thing.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
It was, but you go back.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
I mean, I started getting into a fight with my
husband last night over who killed Tupac? Like it opens
up all the things.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
I doubt I'll have that same fight with my wife.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
But you know, yeah, you're listening to Gary and Shannon
on demand from KF. I am Amy king.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Oh she's left.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
I got this.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Gary and Shannon. I was so excited to hear you
got mailed today and are going to open it on
the air. I'm hoping it's my red and white padded
pouch I sent you for Christmas. I was hoping i'd
be listening when you opened it. I'm also voting for
names for Elf on the shelf. I think Violet and Todd.

(07:27):
So anyway, throw those two into the hot room.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
I want to know the thought process behind that. That's Sherry, right.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yes, I thought it was originally the names of the
neighbor couple from Christmas vacation.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
That's Todd and Margot.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Margo.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, because my husband and I have shirts that say
why is the carpet all wet? Todd? And the other
shirt says I don't know, Margo.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
You did not strike me as that couple.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
We are not.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
But do you have those shirts?

Speaker 1 (08:03):
They were from a long time ago. It was for
a funny ha ha party thing.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Do you still have those shirts?

Speaker 6 (08:09):
No?

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Okay, oh the shirts are the problem. You're the one
who came to work with homemade elves. We're all delighting
in the season. Okay, okay, now Sherry. Sherry is from
Sha Haless, Washington. Oh. I love Sha Haless. I love

(08:31):
saying Sha Haless. Let's see what can I have some scissors?
I know we have scissors, but well, Sherry is taped
up real well here let's see. Oh wait does okay,
let's see. Yeah, sure, there we go. Do we have
any music? Okay, there we go. Okay, let's see what
this is? Gary and Shannon, there's a card that's a

(08:54):
little polar bear. Gary and Shannon love your show. Been
listening since Gary was on handle Shannon with John and Ken.
You two make a great team, like bickering siblings. Enjoy
a little holiday treat. I listen on the iHeart app
left California eleven years ago, never looked back. My town
is like a Hallmark movie. Yes it is, sha Hey, Lensie,
I'm merry Christmas. Thank you, Sherry. Look it. How wonderful?

(09:20):
These are a little up and midst that have lamas
on them.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
How wonderful.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Is that? Oh, that's beautiful for Gary, for Peter.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Oh, a lick mat?

Speaker 1 (09:32):
What is that? What's a lick mac?

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Put little stuff in there and they just lick it
until it's clean, like like a peanut butter. Put a
little peanut butter in there, a little treat in that
little thing.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Right, do you have one of these? You seem familiar
with the link. I know what they are, but you
have one for yourself.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
I do not have one for myself. You do not.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
My wife has one, but it is a it is
a makeup cleaner thing. But it's very similar. It's got
the same like textured little areas and you can wipe
your breath.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
I'm going to walk that back. Your wife has a
surface for cleaning makeup brushes.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, what did I say?

Speaker 1 (10:14):
My wife has a lick mat? No?

Speaker 3 (10:15):
No, no, it looks like a lick mat.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
It's this similar, Like there's multiple spots that are different.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Right, it's for the brushes, the brushes to dry out
after you clean them.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
You like squish them onto the thing.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
And there's two types of people in the world. People
who clean their makeup brushes like you're supposed to religiously.
They use the right cleaner. They use the mats, the
whole thing. And people who have makeup brushes from nineteen
ninety nine that they have never cleaned.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Where are you in that spectrac Oh, what do you think?

Speaker 6 (10:47):
They gave you high prices? They gave you the highest
inflation in history, and we're giving you We're bringing those
prices down rapidly, lower prices, bigger paychecks. I have no
higher priority than making America affordable again.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
That's what we're going to do.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Ninety seven minute speech last night at that casino in Pennsylvania.
I would say about a third of it was on
the economy. From part of it that I saw, he
was back to campaign Trump in that he would spend
some time on the script that was in front of
him and then would would just free form it.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
And the people were eating.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Of course. Oh, this is why Susie Wiles, who is
in charge of everything for a reason, this is why
she wanted him to get back to his campaign roots. Yeah,
go out there and enchant the people for ninety seven minutes.
That's what people love about you. Talk about how even
if you're not seeing the prices come down in the
grocery stores because you're not talk about how you're doing it.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, And that's the other thing was he was describing
this affordability issue as a hoax, but then admitted that
prices are high and they're trying to bring him down.
Of course he blamed the previous administration, which is not
a surprise. But it was a dissonant Is that right
that it was a dissonant message. You can't on the
one hand say it's a hoax and then on the

(12:08):
other hand say we're taking prices or high and we're
doing something about it now.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
But he also went after immigration.

Speaker 6 (12:14):
We had a meeting and I say, why is it
we only take people from the whole countries? Right? Why
can't we have some people from Norway?

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Sweet? Just a few?

Speaker 6 (12:27):
Let us have a few from from Denmark? Do you
mind sending us vir pep send us some nice people?

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Do you mind?

Speaker 6 (12:35):
But we always take people from.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, God, that's awful. Places that are really awful things, healthy.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
Dirty, disgusting, ridden with crime. The only thing they're good
at is going after shift.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
That's that's awful. And he doesn't see it's an awful
that's a whole awful thing. And I wish I didn't
hear it. Okay, So back to the elves. Have we
posted the picture yet?

Speaker 7 (13:00):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (13:00):
We have?

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Oh we have. Okay, so the picture has been posted.
We need to know what to name these people, these elves.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
These people.

Speaker 8 (13:10):
Hey, good morning Gary and Shannon. This is Devin in Vegas. Matt,
Happy birthday, sad Gang. It's also my birthday. I could
go for a good Gary and Shannon birthday shout out.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yes, I love you guys. Peace done. Names for the elves.

Speaker 6 (13:26):
Okay, So the ELFs on the shelves should be named
after your second radio show, Larry and Sherry.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I thought we were Dick and Sandy.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
It depends on which version of it.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Because I liked Dick and Sandy all right. Dick and
Sandy are fun bunnies. Isn't that what Ken called us?

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Well, that would be the overall arching term.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Amy King, you never texted me when you went to
the enchant event at Santa Anita with the lights and
the ice rink. I didn't text you about it. Yeah,
I asked you to tell me if you liked it.
But then I went and got tickets and I'm going tonight.
Was it is fabulous?

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Good?

Speaker 9 (14:05):
Yes, I'm actually featuring it on wake Up Call tomorrow.
Oh yeah, it's it's good. Make sure you do the
make sure you do the the ice hill.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
I did. I'm doing the ice Oh the ice hill.
We're doing the ice skating. Oh you're doing ice skating. Yeah,
well it's a snow hill actually, so uh it's called
uh oh shoot, what's it called? Do I do? I
slide down it? Yese?

Speaker 4 (14:30):
What?

Speaker 9 (14:30):
And it's real ice and the ice skating. It's real ice.
It's not like that fake ice. And they have real
I know, but they have a real ice rink and
they have a little zamboni. It's adorably and the lights
are fabulous. It's called Enchant. It's out at Santa Anita Park,
so beautiful.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
I love ice skating every holiday season. You know, there's
something about as I'm putting on the skates that there's
a a glimmer of hope that I'm going to get
that out there and Boxana Bayoule like maybe this is
the year I'm really good, Like my talent decides to shine,
Like you know, this is the year in my forties

(15:06):
that I'm my hidden talent of ice skating is going
to be revealed. And how does it work out for you?
It never happens, and my ankles aren't strong. Can you
do like a little spin? I can do a little spin.
Can you do a little hop and a spin? No? No,
I'll try there tonight. Yeah, do that. I'll try all
sorts of stuff for you, Amy King, Okay, I'll do

(15:27):
the spin. I'll do the hop.

Speaker 9 (15:28):
I can go backwards a little while, like going backwards
on skates.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
That's about it, though, no triple axel. But I've never
But here's the thing, I've never tried.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Give it a shot. Garry will never make the goal
that you never take.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
That's right. Thank you, Wayne, Thank you Wayne.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Hey, can we be a little bit more charitable on
the roads? Can we look out a little bit less
for number one and look around for everybody else?

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Rough morning today?

Speaker 1 (16:04):
No, it was yesterday afternoon. Just running a couple errands
and people are all out for number one.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
This is not a good traffic time year, not a.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Good traffic time a year. But maybe just a little
bit of you know, paying it forward in terms of
letting someone in or not cutting someone off, not running
red lights. When you're the fourth car through the red,
maybe just let the second car go through the red
and then you chill for another cycle.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, but that's a long cycle.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
It is a long cycle. Should we open our other
piece of home?

Speaker 3 (16:34):
We got more?

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Now? This one has a disclaimer on it. Okay, it
says caution, big caution tape on it, which is kind
of scary. It says fragile magnetic butterflies enclosed. Okay, So
let's see what it is. Oh.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Interesting, it's a couple of papers. Oh, it's it is
a legitimate. There's a magnet on the back there.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Uh oh oh, I see there's Santa butterflies. Here's the magnet. Uh.
I don't want to break it, but look at see
it's a it's a butterfly with wings.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Who said us that this is from? Let's see if
there's a card here more? Santa's John. He had a
new replacement surgery this year. He's trying to lower his
blood pressure too. The surgery went well, and then came

(17:49):
the rehab, and then more rehab and then the continuous rehab.
So he's looking forward this year and the next year
to getting his other need done, maybe in the spring.
So that's that's good. I love getting a Christmas letter.
It's so rare we get these these days. He's been
making a lot of these butterflies for his father. He
shares some of his healthcare workers, fellow inmates, and anyone

(18:10):
who will chat. That's cool. Dad's inspired. The gopher, the
turkey and the Santa flies. Get it. Santa flies like butterflies,
but Santa flies. Take a picture or a selfie with
a Salvation Army bucket and the Santa fly. And then
there's a picture of I guess that's his knee from
the knee surgery. That's the scar, big scar on it.

(18:32):
I thought it was somebody's bald head, but now after
reading the Christmas letter, it is the knee. Oh and
there's his X rays for real. That's it. That is
a good Christmas letter. It's like a litull time media presentation.
Thank you, John, Thank you very much. We are taking
names for.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Our new elves on the shelves and we'd love it
if you leave us a quick talkback message and let
us know what you think.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Amy King says, they have to start with the first letter.
Is that right?

Speaker 9 (19:03):
For your alternate name. Yeah, yeah, for your alter egos.
So like mine is.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Angie, right, so when Amy's out there being bad, she
goes by Angie.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (19:12):
Yeah, So yours could be like and it's got to
be a little spicy, right, So like maybe Suzanne Suzanne.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
You think Suzan.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Sad in high school? She was a nice girl. She
was a nice girl. Well, surely sounds like a nice one.
She was Jewish too, so I don't know if it
works out for the elf.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Yeah, are there Hanka elves on a bench?

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (19:36):
Okay, there actually is a mention on a Bench's kay funny,
But we.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Don't have that. We have the actual Christmas. Oh, by
the way, I hid the elves, so you have to
go look from him. The next break, Gary Great.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
In the tampon basket in the women's bathroom.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
A couple problems with that question.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
When we come back, we'll be talking about did you
hear this story about the guy on the cruise ship
served thirty three drinks and eventually die.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
I hate family story, like it's the cruise ship's fault.
This guy put thirty three drinks in him.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Family is suing the cruise line.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Insane. He is a grown adult. He knew what he
was doing with each one of those.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Drinks, by the way, a very grown adult.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
He was a big, big guy, and who doesn't overserve themselves.
On day one of the crews, you're.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
Listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Doesn't seem healthy?

Speaker 1 (20:29):
No does.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I can't quite put my finger on it, but that
does not seem healthy. Gary Shann and KFI AM six
forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio. A big, huge court
ruling that came down this morning. Gavin Newsom is going
to take over control of the National Guard here in California.
We'll talk about that. This of course stems from back
in June when the President mobilized the National Guard in

(20:54):
LA to help out with immigration enforcements. We'll talk about
that at the top.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
You heard an Amy news the guy who was driving
on the runway at John Wayne. Oh yeah, where do
you think he was off to? Like, he's driving what
eighty miles an hour down the runway there in a
space where you shouldn't be driving, certainly not that fast.
What was the hurry?

Speaker 3 (21:15):
He had some sort of medical event?

Speaker 1 (21:17):
I think was it diarrhea.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Oh that I didn't think of that's possible. I was
thinking like a heart, like he's feeling that he's having
a heart attack or something like that. I don't know,
I didn't think about it. I guess diary could potentially
be a medical event, couldn't it.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
It absolutely is.

Speaker 7 (21:32):
Huh, Hey guys, good morning, and wow, it's hard to
believe we're so close to Christmas. Anyway, I know I
have an idea for your elves. On the shelves, See
if you can sneak into Bill Handle's house and like
tape them somehow to the ceiling of his elevator and

(21:55):
see how long it takes him to notice and if
he screams when he sees them.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
I'm just curious. Anyway, have a great job.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
You get right on that.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
I'll just leave that right there. There's a lawsuit filed
on behalf of a guy who died along on a
Royal Caribbean cruise from sam Pedro down to en Sonata,
the high end one.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
This just makes me so annoyed. What a litigious society
we live in. This is a grown ass man who's
a fool, an act in a fool on one of
those booze cruises to Mexico. That's what it is. Really.
I've been on it. It's a fun time, but that's
what you do. You drink, You drink the whole time.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah, I mean they sell the package is like unlimited
drinks and there's bars everywhere.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
That's how they sell it to you.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Now, if you can't control yourself, you can't handle yourself,
you can't handle yourself, then that's it. I'm sorry that
your family member could not handle himself. That's on him,
that's not on the cruise line.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I'm I saw the pictures of this guy, Michael virgil
Is his name, seems like a pretty big, big fella,
like two seventy two eighty five, So we're in that
range big fella. And I know, especially dudes that are
that big, can often drink two or three times what
you or I could and still be standing. I'm trying

(23:13):
to I'm trying to think of even if it's a
water down free drinks on a Royal Caribbean, you know,
the all you can drink package, I assume they're probably
pretty watered down. If you're ordering cocktails, thirty three would
put most people, thirteen would put most people unconscious twenty

(23:36):
would make most people probably alcoholic.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
If you're a drinker and you're drinking those like those
crews rum drink, it's like what a shot of rum
in one of those things are not very strong? Okay,
I mean unless you know a guy. Yeah, but then
three of those. Here's the thing. You go on those crews,
you find your bartender early, you tip him bit or
on that first day embarkation day. It's your first task
when you get on board. You find the guy at
the bar, not like the main bar, but maybe a

(24:01):
bar like AFT, and you find him with all your
ship stuff, and you you tip the guy fifty bucks
aft and then you just go and you you see him,
you will make your friends with him. It's the same
thing you do if you go to a Chicago Bears
forty nine er game on December sixteenth in a snowstorm
a Soldier Field at Soldier Field with two four and

(24:22):
ten teams, and you tip the bartender right away and
you make sure that she's boring straight vodka into your
vodka cox. You do the same thing on a cruise ship.
But if you're not and I assume this guy didn't
the drinks you get like you said, on a cruise
ship can be very slight when it comes to liquor,

(24:43):
you know. But he's a big guy, like you said,
he looks like he's a drinker, like he probably you
know the thirty three as well, likens he's ordering as well.
You don't know who he's ordering for, Like that's what
they can prove and show. The cruise ship gave him
thirty three drinks whatever. You don't know if this is
guy who goes to the bar and orders a round
for everybody at the bar and puts it on his tab.

(25:04):
There's twelve drinks right there.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
They do admit they don't know if he consumed all
thirty three with them, but they said thirty three drinks
over the course of seven hours, and autopsy said the
cruise ship doctor pronounced him dead about two and a
half hours after he had an altercation with the Royal
Caribbean security. The thing is the guy had become belligerent

(25:30):
looking for his cabin, can't find it. There's video of
him kicking the door of one of the cabins, and
the cruise line security has to come down and take
care of this guy, or at least try to get
him under control. And one of the things they apparently
did was they handcuffed him. They laid on him using

(25:51):
their full body weight to try to keep this guy
under control, and he was still breathing when he was
taken to the ship's medical bay. They said he died
somewhere between two and a half and three hours after
security sat on him. Basically, the lawsuit says that four
or five of the security guards placed their full weight
on him. Medical staffs show that medical records, I should

(26:15):
say so that they injected him with haliparadol and suck sincoline,
a sedative, and a muscle relaxer. They used three cans
of pepper spray to try to subdue him. They didn't
find any drugs in his system, but he had an
enlarged heart.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
I was gonna say, underlying issues.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Obesity and an adrenaline surge obviously during all of this,
and the ship was more than it says more than
but just about three miles offshore when Virgil was pronounced
that at about eight thirty at night, thirty three drinks
over seven hours. Even if he has half of those,

(26:56):
that is a ton of liquor.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
That's his own, that's his own choice.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know if this goes anywhere in
terms of the lawsuit.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
It should go nowhere. All right, when we come back,
what are we doing? Oh, Newsome taking control of the
National Guard? Excellent? Are we over the testicles? Now? We've
put that to bed online.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
It had it to day. It had a nice run
of a couple of funny memes.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
But because those are things that I don't usually equate together,
Gavin Newsom in testicles.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
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