December 12, 2025 • 27 mins
Gary & Shannon open the show with Gary’s take on All Her Fault, which Shannon insists is really a husband-appreciation series. They jump into surprise athletic comeback chatter — from Philip Rivers and Tom Brady to a mysteriously shredded Troy Aikman — all showcasing that signature “laser-eye” focus.
They then break down President Trump’s new legislation aimed at speeding up U.S. AI development, explaining why the White House wants federal agencies to push back on state-level regulation and what it could mean for the tech industry.
NewsNation’s Robert Sherman joins to discuss rising tensions with Venezuela and his new book Lessons from the Front.
The hour wraps with holiday chaos involving Fonzy and Sprinkles — with Gary blaming Shannon for the mess — plus a look at why modern job titles are getting harder to explain in an AI-driven world.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to k
IF I am six forty the Gary and Shannon Show
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
I finished All Her Fault last night. Oh and oh
you didn't want I liked it.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I'll say I liked it, but it just felt like
there were some people in there that were like, why
were you even part of the show.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
It just felt towards the end like it.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Didn't everything is going to be I know, like who
like el Fanning or Dakota Fanning or which one of
the Fannings? It is the other mom at the end
that she had nothing to do with anything. Yeah, but
they she was a friend, and then that was yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
She you had to have her in for the whole
mom guilt angle of you know, you feel guilty and
all the things, and she was a friend to her and.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
She was everybody needs a friend. Gary. To also show
her troubled marriage.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I bet your wife was a lot happier with you
after you finished that show. A couple of troubled marriages
in there. It's a little husband appreciation moment for everybody,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Do a spoiler?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
But yes, I don't think that's a spoiler. Well, I
mean I was going to say a spoiler.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
You can tell everyone's a husband as an a hole
in that show pretty quickly. I will say this. I'm
getting a kick out of this whole Philip Rivers coming
back to holm the Indianapolis Colts as they try to
make it into the wild card game, and he's forty four,
isn't played in five years.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
We know the drill.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
He's coming back. And when I when I told Coach
Harbaugh when we were on the field pre game, is
when the news broke that he was going to get
Philip Rivers was going to go out to Indy And
I said, hey, do you hear about Philip Rivers in Indianapolis?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
And he said what?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And I said, he's going to go out there and
maybe take over for Daniel Jones. And he said, oh
my god, that's amazing. And the look in his eye
was I want to do that, right. Yeah, We've all
seen the look in a child's eye where they're like,
I could do that.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I want to do that.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Whether it's a kid watching a baseball game, a little
girl watching the Olympics figure skating, it's that look in
their eye. We're like it just they light up and
they're just like that is for me. I can be this,
I can do this. He had that look in his eye.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Now someone looks like him doing something spectacular.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Exactly, and maybe and maybe you know, out of the
realm of the people you'd normally think to be doing
that kind of thing. So that cracked me up in
the moment. Then a couple days ago, you see Tom
Brady going on the talk shows and people saying to him,
what do you think about Philip Rivers coming back?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Could you come back?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And Tom Brady's like, yeah, I could come back. I could,
I could, I could make those throws. Yeah, of course
I could. And you see the same look in his eye,
the same very look of that laser eye focus.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I am in I could do this.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
This morning, I'm looking through social media, Troy Aikman, who
is still in great shape, posts a picture of him
doing ab stuff, Like he's in a plank and he's
got a dumb bell and he's doing different arm like
reaches on the dumbbell and doing plank and push ups,
and he's like, hey, just in case anyone's looking for
a retired quarterback. But all these guys they're making fun,
(03:20):
but they've got I mean, they're not totally making fun,
but they've got that look in their face like I
could totally do this, you know, looking.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Around the league looking especially when you.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Look at Troy Aikman and Tom Brady, their jobs are
to evaluate other guys who play their position that they
played at the highest level, and they're looking around the league,
like you know, Kyle at the end of the bar
is looking around the league and saying, these quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Aren't that good.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Well, And if you're Troy Aikman or you're Tom Brady
and you see Philip Rivers come back, you're like, oh,
I could do better than half the guys in this
league right now.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And you don't have to play the full season. You're
not talking about eighteen weeks. You're talking about five game James.
If you're like baby baby, I mean, and you're seeing it.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I'm seeing it in all their eyes and it's so
much fun to watch. And I think it's part of
it the holiday season when all kids eyes are saucers,
and it's just it's a fun little side story to
what's happening.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I heard I think it was Dan Patrick this morning
was talking with I don't remember who it was, but
they were talking about there are people, I mean, there
are people in rest homes who are marking Sunday afternoons
game the Colts in Seattle because they want to watch this.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I mean, nobody wants to see him get hurt.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
There's a little bit of a Nascar feel to it,
like how is this forty four year old gonna handle?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Like you said, Seattle's defense.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
But there's also this It's just a good It's like
a Disney story, a Disney movie kind of come to life.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
It's like Ken Champeau.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
You know, I get text from him all the time
and he's like, hey, I want to fill it. One's
Gary gonna be gone. I could go, I could do
a week of shows. Let's go, Let's do a week
of shows. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
He never does. I was just gonna say, can we
never do that?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
But you know what I mean, any in any profession,
if you've retired or you're out of whatever role you
used to be in when you were younger, we all
look back and.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Go, oh, I could do that. I could still do that.
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I look at reporters on the street and I go,
I could do better than that. I mean, it's just
human nature. Yeah, and it's fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
It is Friday. We'll do what you learned this week
on The Gary and Shannon Show. And the way you
play along with that is when you're listening on the app,
you send us a talkback message and tell us what
you learned while you were listening to The Gary and
Shannon Show. This week, we'll do our nine news nuggets
you need to know, including the greatest excuse. When you
ever get pulled over by the cops get questioned by them,
(05:47):
there's a great line Nope, they can't argue this, and
they'll probably.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Is it I have to pee, No, I have to poop?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
No, I or you already did? Maybe those work too.
That's I know that that has worked.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I will never want to get out of a ticket
enough to say to a police officer, I put my pants.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
When we come back, I will pay the fine, sir.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
The latest AI issue comes out of the White House,
an executive order that was signed by the President yesterday
and I actually means something specific for California.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
We'll talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
They're hanging out, Oh, my goodness together a bunch of
stories that are going on.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
The Republican led state Senate in Indiana has rejected the
congressional redrawn maps that President Trump wanted. Vote was overwhelmingly
against the proposed redistricting, saying that they don't want anybody
outside of Indiana messing with their with their congressional maps.
Lam Or Bass calling on the city council to increase
(06:56):
the LAPD funds for hiring. If she's looking for another
four point four million dollars to hire additional officers, and
if they do not get the money, she says that
LAPD might have to stop hiring in January, of all
of all times, all right. Yesterday, President Trump signed an
executive order directing the federal government to file a lawsuit
(07:19):
against any state that introduces regulations on AI that would
undermine the global AI dominance of the United States. The
Trump administration has been very friendly to AI development, trying
to make sure that we the United States, stay on
the cutting edge, taking the lead when it comes to
(07:40):
this kind of technology.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
President Trump is well aware when there is money being
printed and AI is printing money and it will continue
to do so, so he wants the control over this.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
At this point, California leads the states when it comes
to laws that regulate artificial intelligence, much more so than
any other state. California is also home to the huge
AI companies. Nvidia is the biggest one right now, but
Anthropic and Google and open Ai are all dominating when
(08:12):
it comes to this AI industry. So the order that
the President signed would require the heads of the FCC,
the FTC, and the Department of Justice to challenge any
laws by AI. His argument is we can't have a
patchwork quilt of fifty different states coming up with laws
(08:34):
to regulate AI, that we as a nation need to
have a singular focused policy that would ensure that we
continue to be the leaders when it comes to AI technology.
It does instruct federal agencies to explore whether or not
they could restrict grants to different states based on.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
The laws that they may have had.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
The presidents that it was written to prevent businesses from
needing to comply with laws.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
And this is not about the President wanting a uniform policy.
This is about him wanting control over the AI industry.
And the proof is in the language talking about the
most onerous and excessive laws from states. What he wants
is the AI companies to go ahead and bless him
with their partnerships so.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
That he can bless them with not a lot of
red tape.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, this is also a direct shot at exactly what
China has been doing, which is taking the leash off
any AI development. They are pushing farther ahead zero ethical
controls or regulatory controls when it comes to AI. But
there are even Republican governors who are pushing back against
(09:49):
this from the White House Florida Florida Governor Ron de Santis,
for example, Missouri's Josh Holly. They said that this is
they don't like the idea that that the federal executive
order would somehow preempt state laws. In addition to pointing
out this Republican tradition of states governing themselves. Ron dea
(10:11):
Santist Josh Holly, they say that many Americans are concerned
about the impact on jobs, the potential danger to children obviously,
and even the role of AI and AI server farms
driving up the costs of electricity around the country.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Now, the Constitution gives states a lot of leeway, so
this thing is probably going to go the distance. It's
going to face considerable court challenges. I wish they had
a hypothetical in this article in the Washington Post, And
I don't see one of a particular state law in Florida,
say Ronda Santi's estate, that has a law about AI
(10:46):
that the federal government would not honor, you know, I mean,
what kind of law is the state going to pass
over AI that the federal government could then come in
and supersede as what I'm curious about.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Well, we talked earlier this week about open ai, the
company that makes chat ept, coming up with its own
potential proposition for the state of California, and it was
all about controls for to protect kids and things like
that from the chatbots that will tell these kids to
kill themselves and all that sort of thing. I don't
know why the federal government would have a problem with that.
(11:20):
That is a good question, like what exactly would Ron
DeSantis have in mind if he could do this versus
what Trump would say in terms of the good of
the federal I think.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
And and what as this makes its way in the courts,
they will have to provide those specific examples you have
to hang your hat on a case like that, or
a specific law that a state has put into play
that the federal government wants to get rid of.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Pressure continues to be ratcheted up on the head of Venezuela,
Nicholas Maduro. The United States has announced some new sanctions
on shipping companies and ships themselves that have been used
to move Venezuelan oil. We'll be talking with News Nations
Robert Sherman when we come back.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM.
Six forty.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Democrats on the House Oversight Committee have released a fresh
batch of photos sent to the committee by Jeffrey Epstein's estate,
images featuring Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Woody Allen, Bill Gates,
Steve Bannon, Richard Branson, the ones we all knew, right
the ones we all knew. You can see the pictures
in your head right now. They're innocuous. They're middle aged
(12:31):
white guys posing with pretty women and each other, and
that's about it.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
It's kind of sad. They're sad. Really.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
The pressure continues to mount against Nicholas Maduro, the head
of Venezuela. The United States announced new sanctions on shipping
companies and vessels that it says helped move Venezuelan oil.
Some of the nephews, some family members have received sanctions
as well. As we continue to ratchet up tension, I
guess with that South American country joining us to talk
(13:00):
more about this news, Nation's national correspondent, Robert Sherman, let
me give you a quick pitch as well. Robert new
book out called Lessons from the Front Ricky War correspondent
in Ukraine and Israel.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I'm assuming it would make a great Christmas gift for everybody.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
I would like to think. So you know, it's the
start of a twenty five year old kid who was
never a geopolitical expert, never saw him in this situation,
never once thought his life would be running towards war zones.
And you know the way that that has an impact
on you and how it changes your life. So I
appreciate you saying that. And here we are again in
another tense environment here which seems to just ratchet up
(13:36):
by the day. I mean, like what we're watching here.
We're sitting outside Roosevelt Roads Naval Station, constant flurry of
F thirty five C seventeen's ospreys taking off and landing,
some of which have been involved in these operations here
in the Caribbean. And I mean you see the way
that this ship was just taken into custody by the US.
Now currently we just confirmed it's on its way to
(13:58):
Houston to an oil refined andy that's there. I mean,
the President is making clear that he's making no bones
about it. He's going to hit Venezuela. Where to hurt.
So oil is such the backbone of their economy. Of
far majority of that goes to China, this one was
allegedly earmarked to go to Iran in the end. I mean,
it is very clear, especially when you listen to what
(14:18):
the President said in the Oval Office, that we could
see these operations expanding to land. Who knows where this ends,
but nothing appears to be off the table at the moment.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Robert, we talked a little bit on the show yesterday
about where did Venezuela come from and where did our
issues with Venezuela come from, and we kind of drilled
down on it. It may not be about drugs and
striking the boats that we think are carrying large quantities
of drugs to the United States, but more about the
mineral rich place that is Venezuela, and you mentioned a
(14:48):
lot of air power there. Those minerals go a long
way when it comes to beefing up the military that
this administration would like to see. And we don't have
those minerals in America. China's got a lot of them. Venezuela.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Yeah, I mean it's very true. I mean it is
a very rich country when it comes to natural reserves,
and interesting and largely uncapped country. When you look at
the statistics for the amount of resources that they are
sitting on. You know, the infrastructure that is in Venezuela
has actually really hampered their ability in order to be
able to reach those minerals and draw them out as
(15:25):
quickly as possible. Oil is always going to be the
best example when it comes to Venezuela, but there are
other minerals as well, you know, that are worth noting here.
I mean, it certainly seems as though I think of
what Maria Machado just said this week, because the opposition
leader in Venezuela, and you know, I was kind of
struck by the fact that she's very in support of
all of these operations here, believing that this needs to happen,
(15:47):
you know, when it comes to the Maduro regime and
their ties to frankly, some of America's most staunchest enemies.
You also look at, you know the nature of countries
such as Trinidad and to which at its closest points
it's seven miles from Venezuela. They're very much so on
board with this. There's a lot of geopolitics that make
this complicated, but you are absolutely right there. When you
(16:10):
start to follow the resources and when you start to
follow all of this, I mean there, now it starts
to make more sense. You know why Venezuela is in
play for a multitude of reasons. The drug running problem
is part of it, you know, the allegations against the
Maduro regime are part of it. Minerals as well, I
mean almost certainly, you know. I mean, it is a
very complicated part of the world.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Without question, as much consternation as there has been in Congress,
especially among Democrats, about whether or not the president has
the authority to do this, the United States has the
authority to go after Venezuela or Venezuelan drug votes, or
even the seizure of this oil tanker.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
What is Congress doing about any of this.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Yeah, I mean that's the big thing. I mean, there
are votes you know, that are coming up when it
comes to war powers and things of that nature. I
mean it is I mean, you see the way that
this administration has operated, you know, the using the nomenclature
to their advantage. I mean, I mean so, I mean
a big piece of all of this is that you know,
they named you know, some of the cartels you know,
(17:11):
and the organizations in Venezuela as foreign terrorist organizations, and
they further alleged that Nicholas Maduro is a member of
that cartel. Now, all of a suddenly you have some
nuance here as to exactly what powers the president of
the United States has or does not have, you know,
I mean this is one when you look at the
public surveys. The American public is a little uncertain, you know,
(17:34):
about about taking it this far direct military action against
Venezuela and whether the president has that authority. And someone
who knows that is Nicholas Maduro. I mean he watches
the polls as well just about as anyone. And you
listen to the rhetoric that's coming back from Caracas, almost
at times goading President Trump into upping the ante. I mean,
he just said the other day that he's prepared to
(17:54):
break the teeth of the United States and there's a
lot of tough rhetoric here.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, Robert, last question from me for you is how
shaky of a ground is Maduro on. It's no secret
that Trump wants him out. What is the relationship with
the opposition party? How does how does how is Venezuela
doing politically?
Speaker 5 (18:18):
You know, I mean well, I mean when it comes
to that, you know, I mean all of the allegations,
you know, which has widely been viewed in the world,
is that with the opposition, they believe that the last election,
you know, was not genuine and that Nicholas Maduro is
not the genuine leader of Venezuela. That's the position of
many in the international community. But he still controls the show,
you know, they still have the authority there. I mean,
(18:38):
that's why the opposition leader has been in hiding and
showing up in Norway's the first time that she's been
seen in public in months. It's a huge deal, you know,
that something like that was able to happen. So there
is strong dissent in Venezuela. Nicholas Maduro still has the
authority through the military, and you know through through the
way that he's able to control the country there. So,
(19:00):
I mean, it is one of those situations in which
the only way that the status quo changes is if
an international actor in false. Is that the right course
of action for the US or wrong? You know, that's
that's for the debate to be had.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Robert Sherman from News Nation. Thanks, great stuff.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
You bet and follow Robert on X Robert Sherman TV.
Also again the book that he just wrote, Lessons from
the Front a Young Journalist, A Crash Course in Truth.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Oh, it's good. He's more than welcome. I like talking
to him. I like talking to people than us. Well,
that's not hard to do.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Okay, let's go over to wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Go throw it out the window and the first guy
you hit, I bet fit that role.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
At the parking gate down there at Warner Brothers.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yeah, hey, guys up next.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Jobs that didn't exist a few years ago, which may
also be gone because of AI. This is a very
weird time that we live in now.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
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Speaker 1 (20:08):
I think that's the first time I've ever said those words.
We need to talk about the elves, our elves, Bonzie
and sprinkles.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
They are.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
They caused some problems yesterday. First of all, hold.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
On a second. They didn't do anything. They just sat there.
You go, you got some limpteck on your case. They
just got and I'm the only one who can see it.
But I just figured I didn't want to sit there
and look at that all day. I know they didn't
cause any problems. You realize, well, I was looking the
one who pulled the picture off the wall and threw
it on the floor.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
That's not what happened.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I simply lifted the picture from the wall to see
if there was an elf hiding behind it.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Checked the video, and it crashed down to the I say,
check the video. Take the video.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
What that shows you with standing over the wrecked picture
on the floor, right.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
But it didn't capture that. I was innocently just lightly
moving that you saw. I mean, let's be honest. You
saw me just marginally lifting the bottom of the frame
off the wall.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
To see if there was an elf inside behind your
Matt was there too, Matt?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Can you back me up here very marginally. Thank you, boy.
I thought we were going to have something.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, so they both okay, Elmer the peace Maker. So anyway,
yesterday we went on an Elmer hides elves our elves
which are named Phonsie and Sprinkles.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Matt does, Matt does, Oh, Matt does, Elmer doesn't do it?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Okay, Elmer helps with ideas and Matt hides our elves.
Phonsie is named after Gary's alfa is named Phonsie. Named
Phonsie because Gary wanted to be named Phonsie when he
was about seven and it was a non starter with
his parents.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
And my name.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
My elves name is Sprinkles because Jay I think his
name was Jay called in and said that it would
be a good poll dancer name and I loved it.
So we went with Sprinkles and Phonsie. So where are
they hiding today? We're supposed to get hints, right, so
you have to go to our Instagram story at Gary
and Shannon.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
For the hints. Is that correct?
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Okay, So are they already up there? They are Gary
and Shannon? Okay, so yeah, so you look at it.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
You go on to the Instagram at Gary and Shannon,
and then leave us hints on the talk back. You
can let us know where a quick hint as to
where we might be able to find them.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
If you can tell they're really good today, really, then
oh my goodness, Okay, I'm excited. Well that's very good.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
There is a story that came out of the Wall
Street Journal about what kind of careers people have today
and how hard it would be for me to describe
to Grandpa Dickerson what these people actually do.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I can't tell you what my best friends do for
a living.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
For the most part, I have no titles because they've changed.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
They changed and they add more words. Think about how
goofy to me?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
They're all like presidents and vice but they're all very successful,
but there's so many words to them.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Well, think of the goofy labels that we've given people
like chief people officer. So I think there is a
chief people officer here at this company, and I don't
know what that is. If it's just a vice president
in charge of HR that, for example, is a title
that my sister has.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Just be that, Just be that.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
You don't have to you don't have to be like
a chief of rainbows, and you know, unicorn, farts officer
or something like that. Just just be what. Just let
the descriptor of your job be that thing.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
One of my favorite things to do is go out
with one of my best friends who gets to be
a stay at home mom, and it's refreshing for me
not to pretend to know what she does for a living.
Like in most of my friendships, I'm like, so, how's
work And I start talking and I go cool, oh yeah,
oh my gosh, yeah, not good at faking tough too.
Oh I'm awful, and I don't get it. And they
(23:58):
have a lot of zoom things still and meetings. There's
so many meetings people have.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And I just don't get it.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Jobs, for example, social media influencer, right, yeah. Trying to
try to explain, even to our parents, try to explain
what a social media influencer is and how they make
money doing what they do is hard. There's another guy,
a guy named Brad Peebles. He is a tech. He
(24:29):
is an AI toxicology analyst.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Does he study the toxicology of hey, the ingredients?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
He uses AI to help assess the threat level after
some sort of a chemical spill or something like or
an accident that happens.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
So he's using AI too. Shouldn't we just use science
for that? Yes?
Speaker 3 (24:52):
He usually tells people he's a consultant at an environmental
engineering firm which already loses people, and they don't ask
any further questions.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Do you ever think about it? Like the work your
daughter does.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
She works in a lab and does all sorts of
chemical reaction experiments and things. I don't even know how
to talk about it, but she works in a lab. Yeah,
that's accurate chemical things. What's going to happen with that
industry with AI in terms of experiments and actual hands
on lab work.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I would love it for her.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I would love it if it's one of those industries
where ail to buy it.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yes, yeah, like you can use it as a tool.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I cannot replace what you're doing, right, because it can't
because it can't really well, it can't replace the physicals.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
When it seems, you know, in chemical reactions, like what
you're able to ascertain as a human from what's going
on in a reaction, eyes on that reaction, right.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I mean that would be very hard to because one
of the things about AI is it can only do
based it can only compute or think finger quotes based
on what has happened previously. Yeah, And one of the
things that you do when it comes to science like
that is you're trying to come up with new things, right,
and you can use AI to maybe kind of predict
(26:04):
where the chemical reaction might go or something, but it's
still only using that information that it had previously. Yeah,
so it kind of stifles that advancement, but could be
used to support all of the background research that you
would have to do leading up to a new I
don't know, reaction or new a new chemical, a new
(26:27):
you know, right.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I see Brookshields is on Friends, Jenna and Friends.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, they hired a new person they they did for
the fourth hour.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, yeah for Gail. Is was that Gail's hour? I
think it was Gail? How comes?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Where are we on getting you on Jenna and Friends?
So it seems like that's the show. Now it's Jenna
and a guest host. Where are we with getting you
on that show? I think you would be great on
that show with her?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Nobody returned my calls? Have we tried? Yeah? Really? I
called in you did not call? And did you really?
I called one eight hundred NBC. Okay, So that's I didn't. Really,
I didn't either.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
You're being ridiculous own Like usually you hear a beep
and you leave a message.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Now you're being ridiculous. I'm actually serious about this. It
would be good for the show if we could get
you on co hosting on the television with Jenna. I
think you'd be great at it. I think it would
open a lot of doors doors.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
I finished All Her Fault last night. Oh and oh
you didn't want I liked it.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I'll say I liked it, but it just felt like
there were some people in there that were like, why
were you even part of the show.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
It just felt towards the end like it.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Didn't everything is going to be I know, like who
like el Fanning or Dakota Fanning or which one of
the Fannings? It is the other mom at the end
that she had nothing to do with anything. Yeah, but
they she was a friend, and then that was yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
She you had to have her in for the whole
mom guilt angle of you know, you feel guilty and
all the things, and she was a friend to her and.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
She was everybody needs a friend. Gary. To also show
her troubled marriage.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I bet your wife was a lot happier with you
after you finished that show. A couple of troubled marriages
in there. It's a little husband appreciation moment for everybody,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Do a spoiler?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
But yes, I don't think that's a spoiler. Well, I
mean I was going to say a spoiler.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
You can tell everyone's a husband as an a hole
in that show pretty quickly. I will say this. I'm
getting a kick out of this whole Philip Rivers coming
back to holm the Indianapolis Colts as they try to
make it into the wild card game, and he's forty four,
isn't played in five years.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
We know the drill.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
He's coming back. And when I when I told Coach
Harbaugh when we were on the field pre game, is
when the news broke that he was going to get
Philip Rivers was going to go out to Indy And
I said, hey, do you hear about Philip Rivers in Indianapolis?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
And he said what?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And I said, he's going to go out there and
maybe take over for Daniel Jones. And he said, oh
my god, that's amazing. And the look in his eye
was I want to do that, right. Yeah, We've all
seen the look in a child's eye where they're like,
I could do that.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I want to do that.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Whether it's a kid watching a baseball game, a little
girl watching the Olympics figure skating, it's that look in
their eye. We're like it just they light up and
they're just like that is for me. I can be this,
I can do this. He had that look in his eye.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Now someone looks like him doing something spectacular.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Exactly, and maybe and maybe you know, out of the
realm of the people you'd normally think to be doing
that kind of thing. So that cracked me up in
the moment. Then a couple days ago, you see Tom
Brady going on the talk shows and people saying to him,
what do you think about Philip Rivers coming back?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Could you come back?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And Tom Brady's like, yeah, I could come back. I could,
I could, I could make those throws. Yeah, of course
I could. And you see the same look in his eye,
the same very look of that laser eye focus.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I am in I could do this.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
This morning, I'm looking through social media, Troy Aikman, who
is still in great shape, posts a picture of him
doing ab stuff, Like he's in a plank and he's
got a dumb bell and he's doing different arm like
reaches on the dumbbell and doing plank and push ups,
and he's like, hey, just in case anyone's looking for
a retired quarterback. But all these guys they're making fun,
(03:20):
but they've got I mean, they're not totally making fun,
but they've got that look in their face like I
could totally do this, you know, looking.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Around the league looking especially when you.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Look at Troy Aikman and Tom Brady, their jobs are
to evaluate other guys who play their position that they
played at the highest level, and they're looking around the league,
like you know, Kyle at the end of the bar
is looking around the league and saying, these quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Aren't that good.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Well, And if you're Troy Aikman or you're Tom Brady
and you see Philip Rivers come back, you're like, oh,
I could do better than half the guys in this
league right now.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And you don't have to play the full season. You're
not talking about eighteen weeks. You're talking about five game James.
If you're like baby baby, I mean, and you're seeing it.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I'm seeing it in all their eyes and it's so
much fun to watch. And I think it's part of
it the holiday season when all kids eyes are saucers,
and it's just it's a fun little side story to
what's happening.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I heard I think it was Dan Patrick this morning
was talking with I don't remember who it was, but
they were talking about there are people, I mean, there
are people in rest homes who are marking Sunday afternoons
game the Colts in Seattle because they want to watch this.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I mean, nobody wants to see him get hurt.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
There's a little bit of a Nascar feel to it,
like how is this forty four year old gonna handle?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Like you said, Seattle's defense.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
But there's also this It's just a good It's like
a Disney story, a Disney movie kind of come to life.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
It's like Ken Champeau.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
You know, I get text from him all the time
and he's like, hey, I want to fill it. One's
Gary gonna be gone. I could go, I could do
a week of shows. Let's go, Let's do a week
of shows. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
He never does. I was just gonna say, can we
never do that?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
But you know what I mean, any in any profession,
if you've retired or you're out of whatever role you
used to be in when you were younger, we all
look back and.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Go, oh, I could do that. I could still do that.
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I look at reporters on the street and I go,
I could do better than that. I mean, it's just
human nature. Yeah, and it's fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
It is Friday. We'll do what you learned this week
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(05:47):
there's a great line Nope, they can't argue this, and
they'll probably.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Is it I have to pee, No, I have to poop?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
No, I or you already did? Maybe those work too.
That's I know that that has worked.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I will never want to get out of a ticket
enough to say to a police officer, I put my pants.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
When we come back, I will pay the fine, sir.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
The latest AI issue comes out of the White House,
an executive order that was signed by the President yesterday
and I actually means something specific for California.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
We'll talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
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Speaker 3 (06:29):
They're hanging out, Oh, my goodness together a bunch of
stories that are going on.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
The Republican led state Senate in Indiana has rejected the
congressional redrawn maps that President Trump wanted. Vote was overwhelmingly
against the proposed redistricting, saying that they don't want anybody
outside of Indiana messing with their with their congressional maps.
Lam Or Bass calling on the city council to increase
(06:56):
the LAPD funds for hiring. If she's looking for another
four point four million dollars to hire additional officers, and
if they do not get the money, she says that
LAPD might have to stop hiring in January, of all
of all times, all right. Yesterday, President Trump signed an
executive order directing the federal government to file a lawsuit
(07:19):
against any state that introduces regulations on AI that would
undermine the global AI dominance of the United States. The
Trump administration has been very friendly to AI development, trying
to make sure that we the United States, stay on
the cutting edge, taking the lead when it comes to
(07:40):
this kind of technology.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
President Trump is well aware when there is money being
printed and AI is printing money and it will continue
to do so, so he wants the control over this.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
At this point, California leads the states when it comes
to laws that regulate artificial intelligence, much more so than
any other state. California is also home to the huge
AI companies. Nvidia is the biggest one right now, but
Anthropic and Google and open Ai are all dominating when
(08:12):
it comes to this AI industry. So the order that
the President signed would require the heads of the FCC,
the FTC, and the Department of Justice to challenge any
laws by AI. His argument is we can't have a
patchwork quilt of fifty different states coming up with laws
(08:34):
to regulate AI, that we as a nation need to
have a singular focused policy that would ensure that we
continue to be the leaders when it comes to AI technology.
It does instruct federal agencies to explore whether or not
they could restrict grants to different states based on.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
The laws that they may have had.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
The presidents that it was written to prevent businesses from
needing to comply with laws.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
And this is not about the President wanting a uniform policy.
This is about him wanting control over the AI industry.
And the proof is in the language talking about the
most onerous and excessive laws from states. What he wants
is the AI companies to go ahead and bless him
with their partnerships so.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
That he can bless them with not a lot of
red tape.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, this is also a direct shot at exactly what
China has been doing, which is taking the leash off
any AI development. They are pushing farther ahead zero ethical
controls or regulatory controls when it comes to AI. But
there are even Republican governors who are pushing back against
(09:49):
this from the White House Florida Florida Governor Ron de Santis,
for example, Missouri's Josh Holly. They said that this is
they don't like the idea that that the federal executive
order would somehow preempt state laws. In addition to pointing
out this Republican tradition of states governing themselves. Ron dea
(10:11):
Santist Josh Holly, they say that many Americans are concerned
about the impact on jobs, the potential danger to children obviously,
and even the role of AI and AI server farms
driving up the costs of electricity around the country.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Now, the Constitution gives states a lot of leeway, so
this thing is probably going to go the distance. It's
going to face considerable court challenges. I wish they had
a hypothetical in this article in the Washington Post, And
I don't see one of a particular state law in Florida,
say Ronda Santi's estate, that has a law about AI
(10:46):
that the federal government would not honor, you know, I mean,
what kind of law is the state going to pass
over AI that the federal government could then come in
and supersede as what I'm curious about.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Well, we talked earlier this week about open ai, the
company that makes chat ept, coming up with its own
potential proposition for the state of California, and it was
all about controls for to protect kids and things like
that from the chatbots that will tell these kids to
kill themselves and all that sort of thing. I don't
know why the federal government would have a problem with that.
(11:20):
That is a good question, like what exactly would Ron
DeSantis have in mind if he could do this versus
what Trump would say in terms of the good of
the federal I think.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
And and what as this makes its way in the courts,
they will have to provide those specific examples you have
to hang your hat on a case like that, or
a specific law that a state has put into play
that the federal government wants to get rid of.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Pressure continues to be ratcheted up on the head of Venezuela,
Nicholas Maduro. The United States has announced some new sanctions
on shipping companies and ships themselves that have been used
to move Venezuelan oil. We'll be talking with News Nations
Robert Sherman when we come back.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM.
Six forty.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Democrats on the House Oversight Committee have released a fresh
batch of photos sent to the committee by Jeffrey Epstein's estate,
images featuring Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Woody Allen, Bill Gates,
Steve Bannon, Richard Branson, the ones we all knew, right
the ones we all knew. You can see the pictures
in your head right now. They're innocuous. They're middle aged
(12:31):
white guys posing with pretty women and each other, and
that's about it.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
It's kind of sad. They're sad. Really.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
The pressure continues to mount against Nicholas Maduro, the head
of Venezuela. The United States announced new sanctions on shipping
companies and vessels that it says helped move Venezuelan oil.
Some of the nephews, some family members have received sanctions
as well. As we continue to ratchet up tension, I
guess with that South American country joining us to talk
(13:00):
more about this news, Nation's national correspondent, Robert Sherman, let
me give you a quick pitch as well. Robert new
book out called Lessons from the Front Ricky War correspondent
in Ukraine and Israel.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I'm assuming it would make a great Christmas gift for everybody.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
I would like to think. So you know, it's the
start of a twenty five year old kid who was
never a geopolitical expert, never saw him in this situation,
never once thought his life would be running towards war zones.
And you know the way that that has an impact
on you and how it changes your life. So I
appreciate you saying that. And here we are again in
another tense environment here which seems to just ratchet up
(13:36):
by the day. I mean, like what we're watching here.
We're sitting outside Roosevelt Roads Naval Station, constant flurry of
F thirty five C seventeen's ospreys taking off and landing,
some of which have been involved in these operations here
in the Caribbean. And I mean you see the way
that this ship was just taken into custody by the US.
Now currently we just confirmed it's on its way to
(13:58):
Houston to an oil refined andy that's there. I mean,
the President is making clear that he's making no bones
about it. He's going to hit Venezuela. Where to hurt.
So oil is such the backbone of their economy. Of
far majority of that goes to China, this one was
allegedly earmarked to go to Iran in the end. I mean,
it is very clear, especially when you listen to what
(14:18):
the President said in the Oval Office, that we could
see these operations expanding to land. Who knows where this ends,
but nothing appears to be off the table at the moment.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Robert, we talked a little bit on the show yesterday
about where did Venezuela come from and where did our
issues with Venezuela come from, and we kind of drilled
down on it. It may not be about drugs and
striking the boats that we think are carrying large quantities
of drugs to the United States, but more about the
mineral rich place that is Venezuela, and you mentioned a
(14:48):
lot of air power there. Those minerals go a long
way when it comes to beefing up the military that
this administration would like to see. And we don't have
those minerals in America. China's got a lot of them. Venezuela.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Yeah, I mean it's very true. I mean it is
a very rich country when it comes to natural reserves,
and interesting and largely uncapped country. When you look at
the statistics for the amount of resources that they are
sitting on. You know, the infrastructure that is in Venezuela
has actually really hampered their ability in order to be
able to reach those minerals and draw them out as
(15:25):
quickly as possible. Oil is always going to be the
best example when it comes to Venezuela, but there are
other minerals as well, you know, that are worth noting here.
I mean, it certainly seems as though I think of
what Maria Machado just said this week, because the opposition
leader in Venezuela, and you know, I was kind of
struck by the fact that she's very in support of
all of these operations here, believing that this needs to happen,
(15:47):
you know, when it comes to the Maduro regime and
their ties to frankly, some of America's most staunchest enemies.
You also look at, you know the nature of countries
such as Trinidad and to which at its closest points
it's seven miles from Venezuela. They're very much so on
board with this. There's a lot of geopolitics that make
this complicated, but you are absolutely right there. When you
(16:10):
start to follow the resources and when you start to
follow all of this, I mean there, now it starts
to make more sense. You know why Venezuela is in
play for a multitude of reasons. The drug running problem
is part of it, you know, the allegations against the
Maduro regime are part of it. Minerals as well, I
mean almost certainly, you know. I mean, it is a
very complicated part of the world.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Without question, as much consternation as there has been in Congress,
especially among Democrats, about whether or not the president has
the authority to do this, the United States has the
authority to go after Venezuela or Venezuelan drug votes, or
even the seizure of this oil tanker.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
What is Congress doing about any of this.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Yeah, I mean that's the big thing. I mean, there
are votes you know, that are coming up when it
comes to war powers and things of that nature. I
mean it is I mean, you see the way that
this administration has operated, you know, the using the nomenclature
to their advantage. I mean, I mean so, I mean
a big piece of all of this is that you know,
they named you know, some of the cartels you know,
(17:11):
and the organizations in Venezuela as foreign terrorist organizations, and
they further alleged that Nicholas Maduro is a member of
that cartel. Now, all of a suddenly you have some
nuance here as to exactly what powers the president of
the United States has or does not have, you know,
I mean this is one when you look at the
public surveys. The American public is a little uncertain, you know,
(17:34):
about about taking it this far direct military action against
Venezuela and whether the president has that authority. And someone
who knows that is Nicholas Maduro. I mean he watches
the polls as well just about as anyone. And you
listen to the rhetoric that's coming back from Caracas, almost
at times goading President Trump into upping the ante. I mean,
he just said the other day that he's prepared to
(17:54):
break the teeth of the United States and there's a
lot of tough rhetoric here.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, Robert, last question from me for you is how
shaky of a ground is Maduro on. It's no secret
that Trump wants him out. What is the relationship with
the opposition party? How does how does how is Venezuela
doing politically?
Speaker 5 (18:18):
You know, I mean well, I mean when it comes
to that, you know, I mean all of the allegations,
you know, which has widely been viewed in the world,
is that with the opposition, they believe that the last election,
you know, was not genuine and that Nicholas Maduro is
not the genuine leader of Venezuela. That's the position of
many in the international community. But he still controls the show,
you know, they still have the authority there. I mean,
(18:38):
that's why the opposition leader has been in hiding and
showing up in Norway's the first time that she's been
seen in public in months. It's a huge deal, you know,
that something like that was able to happen. So there
is strong dissent in Venezuela. Nicholas Maduro still has the
authority through the military, and you know through through the
way that he's able to control the country there. So,
(19:00):
I mean, it is one of those situations in which
the only way that the status quo changes is if
an international actor in false. Is that the right course
of action for the US or wrong? You know, that's
that's for the debate to be had.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Robert Sherman from News Nation. Thanks, great stuff.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
You bet and follow Robert on X Robert Sherman TV.
Also again the book that he just wrote, Lessons from
the Front a Young Journalist, A Crash Course in Truth.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Oh, it's good. He's more than welcome. I like talking
to him. I like talking to people than us. Well,
that's not hard to do.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Okay, let's go over to wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Go throw it out the window and the first guy
you hit, I bet fit that role.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
At the parking gate down there at Warner Brothers.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yeah, hey, guys up next.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Jobs that didn't exist a few years ago, which may
also be gone because of AI. This is a very
weird time that we live in now.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I think that's the first time I've ever said those words.
We need to talk about the elves, our elves, Bonzie
and sprinkles.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
They are.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
They caused some problems yesterday. First of all, hold.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
On a second. They didn't do anything. They just sat there.
You go, you got some limpteck on your case. They
just got and I'm the only one who can see it.
But I just figured I didn't want to sit there
and look at that all day. I know they didn't
cause any problems. You realize, well, I was looking the
one who pulled the picture off the wall and threw
it on the floor.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
That's not what happened.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I simply lifted the picture from the wall to see
if there was an elf hiding behind it.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Checked the video, and it crashed down to the I say,
check the video. Take the video.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
What that shows you with standing over the wrecked picture
on the floor, right.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
But it didn't capture that. I was innocently just lightly
moving that you saw. I mean, let's be honest. You
saw me just marginally lifting the bottom of the frame
off the wall.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
To see if there was an elf inside behind your
Matt was there too, Matt?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Can you back me up here very marginally. Thank you, boy.
I thought we were going to have something.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, so they both okay, Elmer the peace Maker. So anyway,
yesterday we went on an Elmer hides elves our elves
which are named Phonsie and Sprinkles.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Matt does, Matt does, Oh, Matt does, Elmer doesn't do it?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Okay, Elmer helps with ideas and Matt hides our elves.
Phonsie is named after Gary's alfa is named Phonsie. Named
Phonsie because Gary wanted to be named Phonsie when he
was about seven and it was a non starter with
his parents.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
And my name.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
My elves name is Sprinkles because Jay I think his
name was Jay called in and said that it would
be a good poll dancer name and I loved it.
So we went with Sprinkles and Phonsie. So where are
they hiding today? We're supposed to get hints, right, so
you have to go to our Instagram story at Gary
and Shannon.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
For the hints. Is that correct?
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Okay, So are they already up there? They are Gary
and Shannon? Okay, so yeah, so you look at it.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
You go on to the Instagram at Gary and Shannon,
and then leave us hints on the talk back. You
can let us know where a quick hint as to
where we might be able to find them.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
If you can tell they're really good today, really, then
oh my goodness, Okay, I'm excited. Well that's very good.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
There is a story that came out of the Wall
Street Journal about what kind of careers people have today
and how hard it would be for me to describe
to Grandpa Dickerson what these people actually do.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I can't tell you what my best friends do for
a living.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
For the most part, I have no titles because they've changed.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
They changed and they add more words. Think about how
goofy to me?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
They're all like presidents and vice but they're all very successful,
but there's so many words to them.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Well, think of the goofy labels that we've given people
like chief people officer. So I think there is a
chief people officer here at this company, and I don't
know what that is. If it's just a vice president
in charge of HR that, for example, is a title
that my sister has.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Just be that, Just be that.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
You don't have to you don't have to be like
a chief of rainbows, and you know, unicorn, farts officer
or something like that. Just just be what. Just let
the descriptor of your job be that thing.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
One of my favorite things to do is go out
with one of my best friends who gets to be
a stay at home mom, and it's refreshing for me
not to pretend to know what she does for a living.
Like in most of my friendships, I'm like, so, how's
work And I start talking and I go cool, oh yeah,
oh my gosh, yeah, not good at faking tough too.
Oh I'm awful, and I don't get it. And they
(23:58):
have a lot of zoom things still and meetings. There's
so many meetings people have.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And I just don't get it.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Jobs, for example, social media influencer, right, yeah. Trying to
try to explain, even to our parents, try to explain
what a social media influencer is and how they make
money doing what they do is hard. There's another guy,
a guy named Brad Peebles. He is a tech. He
(24:29):
is an AI toxicology analyst.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Does he study the toxicology of hey, the ingredients?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
He uses AI to help assess the threat level after
some sort of a chemical spill or something like or
an accident that happens.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
So he's using AI too. Shouldn't we just use science
for that? Yes?
Speaker 3 (24:52):
He usually tells people he's a consultant at an environmental
engineering firm which already loses people, and they don't ask
any further questions.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Do you ever think about it? Like the work your
daughter does.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
She works in a lab and does all sorts of
chemical reaction experiments and things. I don't even know how
to talk about it, but she works in a lab. Yeah,
that's accurate chemical things. What's going to happen with that
industry with AI in terms of experiments and actual hands
on lab work.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I would love it for her.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I would love it if it's one of those industries
where ail to buy it.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yes, yeah, like you can use it as a tool.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I cannot replace what you're doing, right, because it can't
because it can't really well, it can't replace the physicals.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
When it seems, you know, in chemical reactions, like what
you're able to ascertain as a human from what's going
on in a reaction, eyes on that reaction, right.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I mean that would be very hard to because one
of the things about AI is it can only do
based it can only compute or think finger quotes based
on what has happened previously. Yeah, And one of the
things that you do when it comes to science like
that is you're trying to come up with new things, right,
and you can use AI to maybe kind of predict
(26:04):
where the chemical reaction might go or something, but it's
still only using that information that it had previously. Yeah,
so it kind of stifles that advancement, but could be
used to support all of the background research that you
would have to do leading up to a new I
don't know, reaction or new a new chemical, a new
(26:27):
you know, right.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I see Brookshields is on Friends, Jenna and Friends.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, they hired a new person they they did for
the fourth hour.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, yeah for Gail. Is was that Gail's hour? I
think it was Gail? How comes?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Where are we on getting you on Jenna and Friends?
So it seems like that's the show. Now it's Jenna
and a guest host. Where are we with getting you
on that show? I think you would be great on
that show with her?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Nobody returned my calls? Have we tried? Yeah? Really? I
called in you did not call? And did you really?
I called one eight hundred NBC. Okay, So that's I didn't. Really,
I didn't either.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
You're being ridiculous own Like usually you hear a beep
and you leave a message.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Now you're being ridiculous. I'm actually serious about this. It
would be good for the show if we could get
you on co hosting on the television with Jenna. I
think you'd be great at it. I think it would
open a lot of doors doors.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
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