July 22, 2025 • 29 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Anne Wild animal News get it. Four year old child
attacked by a mountain lion up in the Olympic National
Park in Washington State.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I did hear about this.
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Lione bit the child Sunday afternoon on a popular hiking
trail near the Victoria Overlook area and Hurricane Ridge. The
child was airlifted to Seattle Hospital, probably Harbor Review, where
they're being.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Treated for their injuries.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Because they haven't announced what there was a boy or
girl condition not immediately clear.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Well, the Justice Department now, as it faces more backlash
over the lack of any sort of transparency with the
Jeffrey Epstein files, the Justice Department now said today that
they hope to meet with Jeffrey Epstein's right hand woman,
Gallayne Maxwell.
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Speaker 2 (01:41):
So Gallaine Maxwell is serving a twenty year federal prison
sentence for child sex trafficking and some other crimes associated
with her relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, and Attorney General Pam
Bondi has announced that they are trying to meet with her.
The Trump administration has been facing pressure from just about
every direction to release more files about this guy, about
(02:07):
his case, about all of the information that may or
may not exist. And for years there have been theories
that there were prominent politicians and very high profile public
figures that may have been involved with Jeffrey Epstein in
his crimes.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
It's kind of what Trump ran on more than a
decade ago. One of the conspiracy theories that reared its
head was that Democrats at a very high level were
engaging in child pedophilia rings and otherwise, and that there
was a lot of information about this in the Jeffrey
Epstein files. And they ran with it. They ran with it,
(02:44):
Steve Bannon, the whole bit. They all ran with it
and said, yes, let's get to the bottom of this.
Put us in power so we can unearth all of
the bad deeds. The power elite in Washington has gotten
away with by and large Democrats for years, and so
people bought it hook line and sinker. And then when
the files were supposed to be made public, remember Pam
(03:06):
Bondi holding the press conference with the binders there in Washington,
said you know, well there's nothing there. People lost their
minds and they're like, what do you mean there's nothing there.
So now they're trying to assuage all of that upsetment
by saying, well, maybe glaidne Maxwell can add something to this. Well,
(03:28):
why wouldn't whatever glaidne Maxwell has said or is willing
to say, why wouldn't that already be knowledge that they
have or are privy to I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Know well, And that raises the possibility would she entertain this.
She doesn't have to meet with them. She's in jail,
she doesn't have to meet.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
With Remember, she thought that there was a shot she
could get a pardon from President Trump, and he said
absolutely not, there's no way. And so now she's got
a little bit of leverage because the people in hurry
are telling her, Hey, there are people calling for Trump
to release the stuff and he's not doing it right, which.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Gives her a little power over Trump with the pardon.
It may not be a lot, but it's leverage. Yeah,
some amount of leverage. Now the question is would she
say things that people want to hear just so she
reduces a sentence or uses the leverage in some way?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I mean, I mean, would you lie or fabricate?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
And I mean she's already in jail for twenty years,
so it's not like it ain't gonna get a whole
lot worse for her if she does something nefarious.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Here's my question.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
We know that the Trump administration and the Justice Department
does not need to be completely honest with all of us.
I don't think there's been a president or a Justice
Department that has ever been one hundred percent honest with us.
If there was something in those files to implicate Democrats,
whether it be the Obamas or the Clintons or whoever,
(04:58):
people think that there's something in there on why wouldn't
Trump just release that part? I mean, if some of
the Democrats are saying, well, the reason he's not is
because he's involved, and blah blah blah blah, Well he
doesn't have to release that part. He can redact that part.
He's a president, this is his Justice Department.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
But I think that's the problem that he's facing in
general right now.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Is he campaigned on.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
The pledge of truthfulness, straightforward, no hiding, no protecting, you know,
root out all of the corruption that exists in Washington, DC.
And if he does that, or if he does what
you're saying, release the parts that are damaging to other
parties but not himself.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, because that's the issue. I mean, but we don't
need to know that that was redacted. And furthermore, he's
under the cover of I'm the sitting president of the
United States, so I did nothing wrong and I can't
be criminally liable or I can't be accused of anything.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I mean, he's he's.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Hidden under that umbrella for a long time. So why
even if his name was mentioned, why even bring it
up if he's untouchable.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
There's just so many questions I have about this too, because,
like I was saying last week when the Wall Street
Journal report came out, of all these people, Alan Dershowitz, Trump,
all of these big names, Wexler putting pen to paper
and saying, essentially, Jeffrey Epstein is my friend in the
form of a happy fiftieth birthday.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Letter signed by me.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Why they would own up to that friendship being as
tight as it was if they were in some sort
of illegal activity together. That doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
To me, that.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Supports Trump and his argument that there's no there there.
Well again, this that's easier for me to believe than
the Obamas and Clinton's were in a child pedophilia ring.
The note there there is much more believable.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
So this Justice.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Department news is that they are looking for a voluntary
meeting with Gallaine Maxwell. While that's going on over in Congress,
the House Oversight Committee is advanced emotion from a Tennessee
Republican Tim Burchett to approve a subpoena for Gallaine Maxwell,
(07:25):
a committee Aid wrote, the committee will seek to subpoena
Maxwell as expeditiously as possible since she is in federal prison.
The Committee would work with the Department of Justice and
Bureau of Prisons to identify a date when the Committee
can depose her. The deposition will help the American people
understand how Jeffrey Epstein was able to carry out his
evil actions for so long without being brought to justice.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
President Trump is trying to maintain the pivot that he
got into with the Wall Street Journal of saying, look
at the media, they're out to get me with the
MAGA based kind of calming down a little bit when
it came to this. He's trying to add on to
that today, shifting the public's focus away from the Jeffrey
Epstein case by urging his Justice Department to go after
(08:12):
Barack Obama. Finally, I'll tell you about that when we
come back.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
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AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Died surrounded by love.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Ozzy Osbourne reportedly passed away this morning surrounded by his
family Sharon Jack Kelly Amy Lewis born John Michael Osbourne
in Birmingham, England, December third, nineteen forty eight.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
He was first.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Nicknamed Ozzie back in primary school. Say his childhood was challenging,
but music was always an outlet. He had dyslexia, claimed
he was sexually abused by bullies when he was eleven
at tight tempted suicide as a teenager, but he says
(09:04):
it was the Beatles nineteen sixty four songs She Loves
You for inspiring him to pursue a music career. Imagine
that a Beatles sweet sugary she loves You song inspiring
the head of Black Sabbath.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
He dropped out of school at fifteen, worked several trade jobs.
Two years later spent six weeks in the Winston Green
prison because he stole from a clothing store and couldn't
pay the fine. Once he was released from prison, he
and his friend Geezer Butler formed their first band.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
It was called Rare Breed.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
With Ossie on vocals, and then in nineteen sixty seven,
of course, became a founding member of Black Sabbath, who
I think kicked him out for being a drunkard and
being drunken high all the time, which was funny, I
think because they were all on drugs.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
But he was better at it.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, I guess, of course he was. They were often
criticized Black Sabbath. This is not news to anyone as
their dark for their dark satanic themes or what have you.
He told interviewer back in twenty sixteen. When we started
gigging way back then, as soon as we started playing
the songs opening chords, young girls in the audience would
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efing freak out.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
They thought we were Satan.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Efing friends or something, Satan's efing friends or something.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
That's how I remember the early Ozzy Osbourne.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I mean, I was Prince of Darkness eight, nine, ten
years old. When well I was eleven years old.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I remember there was a kid, I think here in
California who had committed suicide and his parents sued Ozzie
and the record company CBS at the time sued because
of the lyrics of the song where to Hide Suicide
is the Only Way Out, don't you know what it's
really about? And they argued that this kid committed suicide
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because of the those lyrics and that Ozzy should be
criminally charged. The courts ruled in his favor. There's no
connection between the song and the suicide. He was sued
over it again several years later. But that idea that
Ozzy Osbourne and music like that was detrimental to teenagers
was such a huge issue in the early eighties.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
When he was kicked out of Black Sabbath in nineteen
seventy nine. The manager of Black Sabbath was a guy
by the name of Don Arden, and it was Don's
daughter who decided to manage Ozzy as a solo act.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
His daughter was Sharon.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
He'd go on to make twelve solo albums, Crazy Train,
momm Coming Home No More. You know, you know the
collection everybody does. Inducted into the UK Music Hall of
Fame in two thousand and five, rock and Roll Hall
of Fame in two thousand and six. And then let's
talk about the colorful aspects of Ozzie's life, because how
can you not.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Like the dove and the bat. The bat.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
He bit the head off of a bat during a
concert in January nineteen eighty two. The next month, he
was arrested in Texas for peeing on a propman to
honor people who died at the Battle of the Alamo.
That was the year Here and Sharon got married, went
on to have three kids, and then they were really
the first to have that reality show that I.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Had so much fun watching that show because again, I
had grown up with the image that Ozzy Osbourne was
the incarnation of Satan on the earth, and you were
not supposed to listen to him. He was bad for you.
He's bad for your health. And it's not that my
parents were overly religious or anything like that. They just
thought that it was dark.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
The show premiered March two thousand and two and ran
for three years, yes one of the first of its kind,
if not the first. In the first season, The Osbourne's
was the most viewed series in MTV history. Jack later
alleged his father hated filming the show. That Ozzie recounted
(13:04):
a couple of years ago, I don't know how the
Kardashians have done it for so long.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
It sent us crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
At the end, he said, I'm not sorry I did it,
But after three or four years, I said, do you
know what, We're going to lose somebody because this is
getting too crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
It traumatized him. And his family.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
He said that there's rock and roll fame, which is intense,
but that the reality show level of fame was unbelievable
and that the kids paid for it.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
He said they all ended.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Up doing drugs, that his son Jack got clean and
sober on that show. Kelly messed up on that show,
I was messed up. Sharon got cancer.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And remember there there's another daughter also, Amy Amy. So
Amy didn't want to have anything to do with that show,
and the questions surrounding why would she not? I mean
at the time, why would she not want to have
all this great new fame and everything?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
And that makes perfect sense genius.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
As a well documented Ozzy Osbourne struggled heavy drug and
alcohol addiction throughout his life. Introduced to cocaine in nineteen
seventy one, an early adopter later claimed that he took
LSD every day for two years while in Black Sabbath.
At the end of his time with the band, he
said he got very drunk and very stoned every single day.
(14:20):
He did get into some legal trouble in September nineteen
eighty nine when he tried to kill his wife Sharon.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
He was too drunk to remember the incident.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
She ended up dropping the charges, but he did have
to do six months in rehab.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
There was a show recently that he did where he
didn't do much on stage, I mean, basically just sat that.
We've seen that with aging rockers a lot in the
last decade or so, where either they can't or they
don't want to get up and dance around the stage
like they used to.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
So he sat in a big throne the whole time.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
As you mentioned, he was diagnosed with Parkinson's in February
of twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
He had emphysema.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Who's diagnosed in February of twenty twenty and Ozzie dead
at the age of seventy six.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Not that I thought the guy was going to live forever,
very believable, but it's one of those people who has
been around your whole life. Yeah, So it is unbelievable
to feel like there's a world where Ozzy Osbourne isn't
breaking flying by the seat of his pants somewhere, all right.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So as more tributes come in to Ozzie, we'll definitely
talk about him. There was an interesting issue last night.
Stephen Colbert had his first show since it was announced
that his show was going to be canceled. Shannon has
a rant. I do have a rant locked and loaded
when we come back.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Just a couple of weeks after his after his farewell show,
he said his daughter Kelly apparently got engaged at that
show to her boyfriend. Oh, I didn't know, but a
lot of people have been chiming in about their memories
of Ozzie.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
In the nineties. Very two thousand took my sixteen year
old boy go see Ozzy at Glenn Helen and I
was like three three different little shows going on, and
Ozzie came out on the main stage. Best time, I said,
I never had it In five minutes for show you
(16:32):
ever been tore? I was glad it was Ozzy. I
love you all.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Bye, Yeah, thanks.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I know a handful of people who saw Ozzy or
Black Sabbath in concert.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Black Sabbath seems to be one of those coming of
age bands that transcends the time that it was around. Like,
I think Black Sabbath means the same to that guy
as it probably means to his son, even though they
lived in different generals.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
And maybe neither one of them was alive when Black
Sabbath was originally together.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Another bit of info about Ozzie, by the way, it's
this germ germ. I'm in San Diego. I'm from the
band Black Little Prophecy and also the band Morning Star.
So there's my plug thing. But Amy has a singing
career that she was doing for.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
A while, Amy Osbourne, and she went under a.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
R oh like Aero, really good singer, and that's one
of the reasons why she didn't want to be.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
On the show. I'm going to miss you, Ozzie. You
were god man and you'll never be forgotten. Iconic, that's
for damn sure, very iconic. All right.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
So Stephen Colbert went on a rant he's been pulled
the networks as it's a financial decision, and a lot
of people have pointed to the fact that he makes money,
his show makes money, and how could it be a
financial decision when he show makes money, and that it's
(18:05):
more of a censorship thing because he is a vocal
opponent of President Trump and the parent company had just
settled right with Trump over the whole What was that
hole for kerfuffle about sixty minute, sixty minutes interview that
was heavily edited because it was here's my problem with
(18:26):
the people on the horse that are holier than now
up there in the rafters saying that this is the
government censoring the media and you know, quieting the voice
of the people.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
And no, no, no, this is probably.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
A long term, great financial decision late night from what
I remember, and I was never really old enough or
to appreciate it or watch it being up that late
when it was in its heyday, but from my memory,
it never involved any sort of politics. It was not controversial.
(19:03):
It was the stars of the day of the hour
that would come on, sit on who whoever couched with it,
Carson or Letterman or Leto or whoever was the host,
and there would be musical guests and there would be comics,
and it was fun and it was a variety show
but not controversial, and that's what you loved about it,
(19:24):
and that's why it got so many ratings.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
It turned nobody off the first.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Time I saw Stephen Colbert and John Stewart for that matter,
on the Daily Show. I was not a Comedy Central
connoisseur in this twenty years ago, and I remember going
to someone's house and they had watched this, and I
remember thinking, huh, so it's like a Late night show,
but totally skewed politically. And back then, Stephen Colbert, his
(19:50):
whole start was making fun of Bill O'Reilly being Bill
O'Reilly to the fact where you're nauseated by Bill O'Reilly.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
And it was brilliant at the time.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Bill Riley wildly popular but very much full of himself
and his ideas, and Colbert just struck gold with that
on Comedy Central, right right on Comedy Central, not Late Night,
not for the masses, for that niche market of people
who would get the humor, who would be left leaning,
(20:20):
who would enjoy it. You start taking that and putting
it in front of America, It's not going to play
the same way. That's not what Late night TV set
out to do. It set out to be for everyone.
And I don't know this, but this is my feeling.
I feel like it was made for everybody, brought us
all together so we could forget all the bs we
disagreed about.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Well, that was an attitude, was not that. It's still
not the attitude, but it's forgotten. I think in a
lot of places, why cut out half of your audience.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
You want to have.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
You want to bring in as many eyeballs to a
television show as possible, So make it something that can
appeal to everyone. You may not find it funny necessarily,
but you're not offended by it.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Right and now, so much of it offends polarizing.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Its politics has made its way into sports, It's made
its way into late night, and I like the idea
of getting rid of it, Like I like the eradication
of politics from football and sports in general and comedy
and all that. I don't deal with it. I don't
want that bleeding in. Yes, they got to stay on
top of the news. Yeah, I got to figure out
what's going on Washington or what's going on in Sacramento. Okay,
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But when I'm relaxing, when I just want to laugh,
when I want things light, get it out here.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Well we come back. I'll play for you.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
What Colbert said last night and again his first showback
since he was notified that he was losing that he
was losing his job. And by the way, Wall Street
Journal says that show loses forty million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
It could make a hell of a lot more that's
for sure I could.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
And also what Johnny Carson has said about that very
important topic of why would I want to dip my
toe into a political world when all there's no win
Johnny Carson.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Thinks Johnny Carson didn't find himself so self important I
have to get into.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
This, and he mentions that, oh, it's such a great
play for that when we come back.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Half an hour ago.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
A little less than that, a little more than I
should say that we got that Ozzy Osbourne passed away
at the age of seventy six. Just got a text
from a group text with someboddies that said that Ozzie
passed away.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Maybe you can check on that and check out everybody. No, thanks,
thank you for listening. Appreciate that.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
Hey, Gary Shannon.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
I was fortunate enough to be in Birmingham and England
for his final show, and Wow, though he was confined
to his throne, you could see the guy still wanted
to rock and to see the tributes from all the
amazing art artists that were there. It was just absolutely
unbelievable and I almost tend to believe that that was
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his final hurrah and that's how he wanted to go out,
So he will be missed for sure.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It's kind of proof something that occurs to you. I
think as we get older is people don't really change.
They're the same people they've always been. They just get older,
Like we don't grow into some sort of grown up
version all the time. Like he is proof of that,
(23:34):
Like he is the same guy he was when he
was nineteen years old, you know, I mean I was
reading about how he you know, he just as recently
as ten years ago or twelve I think it was
twenty thirteens, twelve years ago. Who's like I'm back into
drugs and alcohol, like he just giving up. The ghost
was just not a thing for Ozzy Osbourne. And he
(23:57):
really was that guy on that reality show. You know,
he appeared to be an old man or an older man,
and know the way that he behaved was just the
same Guysically.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, I mean physically you could see that he was aged,
but yeah, but definitely not whatever is going on his
internal right spirit, his personality.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
The same guy were the same people. It's like you
on your vacation, you know, you were putting on the
same speedo you put on in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
You know, no, no, that one in ninety two was black.
Oh but you know you're the same guy.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Likes to go out fun in the sun and your speedo.
You know, outgrow that.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Stephen Colbert took to the stage last night for the
first time since it was announced that CBS is going
to end his show on Friday.
Speaker 9 (24:41):
Donald Trump posted, I absolutely love that Colbert got fired.
His talent was even less than his ratings. How dare you, sir,
would an untalented man be able to compose the following
satirical witticism yourself?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
So we are talking about the political nature of shows now.
When Saturday Night Live started also getting political outside of
their weekend update, that's when they got some of the
harshest criticisms for the contra I mean, they had some
dark years where they just were not funny, but they
(25:28):
also had some years where they were funny. But everything
had to be political. Every show open had to be political,
every you know, the major players in the cast all
had to be able to do a good political.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Imitation. And that well, there was.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Great sccess off of that. Like I mentioned, like twenty
years ago Daily Show and the Colbert Report, like there
was great success, and I think people wanted a little
bit of that success if that's.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Where you were going, Like, if that's why you were
known for that. But and we mentioned this, and you
reference this also. Johnny Carson did an interview with sixty
Minutes I believe many many years ago, and the question was,
you know, why don't you get political, Why don't you
do political things?
Speaker 4 (26:17):
People say you'll never take a serious controversy. Well, I
have an answer to that, I said, Now tell me
the last time that Jack Benny red Skelton uh Benny
comedian used his show to do serious issues.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
That's not what I'm there for. Can't they see that?
Speaker 4 (26:36):
But you and I do they think that just because
you have it Tonight's show, that you must deal in
serious issues. That's a danger. It's a real danger. Once
you start that, you start to get that self important feeling.
That's what you say as greatly important. And you know,
strangely enough, you could use that show as a form
you could sway people, and I don't think you should
(26:56):
as an entertainer.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
That's so funny that I was like that That's how
it came across to me, like, why are you so
self important that you think that?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
And that's what he said.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well, and think about where comedy in general is, if
you're going to go see a stand up comedian, you
do not want to hear politics. And very few stand
up comedians want to do political humor because they know
half the room's going to get up and leave, or
half the room's going to go back and talk about
how bad you were. Regardless of the other part of
(27:27):
your show, which was hilarious, you didn't agree with them politically,
and that's going to taint your impression of them. We
talk about that when we talk about a movie and
TV actress who get involved politically.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
And you don't.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
You have to grate your teeth to watch a show
that they're in because you know how they act politically
and you don't like that.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I hate talking politics on this show, but it's a
news centric show, so it's unavoidable.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
But I don't think.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
I mean, growing up in news, I never thought that
my opinion mattered and I still don't think my opinion
matters at all to anybody outside of this outrun in
my brain. So you know, It's like, I get it.
You know, why would you want to, especially at a
fun when you could just have fun and you could
(28:17):
just talk to, you know, musical guests.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
There is a funny thing that obviously the President is
happy about this because he's no fan of Colbert. He
actually believes that Jimmy Kimmel is going to be next
and booted from his show, and that Fallon and maybe
Seth Myers could be a listen that the whole Jimmy
Fallon doesn't get into politics anywhere.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Well, the President also doesn't need to take himself as
seriously like have a little fun. You're the president. People
are gonna have fun with you. Politics aside. They're going
to have fun with you, whether it's your ears or
your feet or whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
And come on, you know, he loves the attention totally.
It's been Gary and Shannon and make us your new
favorite podcast. How's that you guys. We have a big
twelve o'clock hour. We're gonna get more into the Ozzy story.
Ozzy Osbourne dead today at seventy six years old. What
a wild ride, What a great life, what a crazy life.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Also, we have True Love Tuesday, Come True Crime Tuesday.
It's true love. We're going to Crimes of the Heart do.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
A matchmaking today and in the weeks to come. You've
been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Anne Wild animal News get it. Four year old child
attacked by a mountain lion up in the Olympic National
Park in Washington State.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I did hear about this.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Lione bit the child Sunday afternoon on a popular hiking
trail near the Victoria Overlook area and Hurricane Ridge. The
child was airlifted to Seattle Hospital, probably Harbor Review, where
they're being.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Treated for their injuries.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Because they haven't announced what there was a boy or
girl condition not immediately clear.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Well, the Justice Department now, as it faces more backlash
over the lack of any sort of transparency with the
Jeffrey Epstein files, the Justice Department now said today that
they hope to meet with Jeffrey Epstein's right hand woman,
Gallayne Maxwell.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Behind bars. That's where we kick off swamp Watch. I'm
a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar.
Not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Yeah, we got the real problem is that our leaders
are done.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
So what I'm not going anywhere, so that now you
train the.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Squad, I can imagine what can be and be unburdened
by what has been.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
You know, amervans have always been going as they're not stupid.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
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Speaker 2 (01:41):
So Gallaine Maxwell is serving a twenty year federal prison
sentence for child sex trafficking and some other crimes associated
with her relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, and Attorney General Pam
Bondi has announced that they are trying to meet with her.
The Trump administration has been facing pressure from just about
every direction to release more files about this guy, about
(02:07):
his case, about all of the information that may or
may not exist. And for years there have been theories
that there were prominent politicians and very high profile public
figures that may have been involved with Jeffrey Epstein in
his crimes.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
It's kind of what Trump ran on more than a
decade ago. One of the conspiracy theories that reared its
head was that Democrats at a very high level were
engaging in child pedophilia rings and otherwise, and that there
was a lot of information about this in the Jeffrey
Epstein files. And they ran with it. They ran with it,
(02:44):
Steve Bannon, the whole bit. They all ran with it
and said, yes, let's get to the bottom of this.
Put us in power so we can unearth all of
the bad deeds. The power elite in Washington has gotten
away with by and large Democrats for years, and so
people bought it hook line and sinker. And then when
the files were supposed to be made public, remember Pam
(03:06):
Bondi holding the press conference with the binders there in Washington,
said you know, well there's nothing there. People lost their
minds and they're like, what do you mean there's nothing there.
So now they're trying to assuage all of that upsetment
by saying, well, maybe glaidne Maxwell can add something to this. Well,
(03:28):
why wouldn't whatever glaidne Maxwell has said or is willing
to say, why wouldn't that already be knowledge that they
have or are privy to I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Know well, And that raises the possibility would she entertain this.
She doesn't have to meet with them. She's in jail,
she doesn't have to meet.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
With Remember, she thought that there was a shot she
could get a pardon from President Trump, and he said
absolutely not, there's no way. And so now she's got
a little bit of leverage because the people in hurry
are telling her, Hey, there are people calling for Trump
to release the stuff and he's not doing it right, which.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Gives her a little power over Trump with the pardon.
It may not be a lot, but it's leverage. Yeah,
some amount of leverage. Now the question is would she
say things that people want to hear just so she
reduces a sentence or uses the leverage in some way?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I mean, I mean, would you lie or fabricate?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
And I mean she's already in jail for twenty years,
so it's not like it ain't gonna get a whole
lot worse for her if she does something nefarious.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Here's my question.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
We know that the Trump administration and the Justice Department
does not need to be completely honest with all of us.
I don't think there's been a president or a Justice
Department that has ever been one hundred percent honest with us.
If there was something in those files to implicate Democrats,
whether it be the Obamas or the Clintons or whoever,
(04:58):
people think that there's something in there on why wouldn't
Trump just release that part? I mean, if some of
the Democrats are saying, well, the reason he's not is
because he's involved, and blah blah blah blah, Well he
doesn't have to release that part. He can redact that part.
He's a president, this is his Justice Department.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
But I think that's the problem that he's facing in
general right now.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Is he campaigned on.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
The pledge of truthfulness, straightforward, no hiding, no protecting, you know,
root out all of the corruption that exists in Washington, DC.
And if he does that, or if he does what
you're saying, release the parts that are damaging to other
parties but not himself.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, because that's the issue. I mean, but we don't
need to know that that was redacted. And furthermore, he's
under the cover of I'm the sitting president of the
United States, so I did nothing wrong and I can't
be criminally liable or I can't be accused of anything.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I mean, he's he's.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Hidden under that umbrella for a long time. So why
even if his name was mentioned, why even bring it
up if he's untouchable.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
There's just so many questions I have about this too, because,
like I was saying last week when the Wall Street
Journal report came out, of all these people, Alan Dershowitz, Trump,
all of these big names, Wexler putting pen to paper
and saying, essentially, Jeffrey Epstein is my friend in the
form of a happy fiftieth birthday.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Letter signed by me.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Why they would own up to that friendship being as
tight as it was if they were in some sort
of illegal activity together. That doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
To me, that.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Supports Trump and his argument that there's no there there.
Well again, this that's easier for me to believe than
the Obamas and Clinton's were in a child pedophilia ring.
The note there there is much more believable.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
So this Justice.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Department news is that they are looking for a voluntary
meeting with Gallaine Maxwell. While that's going on over in Congress,
the House Oversight Committee is advanced emotion from a Tennessee
Republican Tim Burchett to approve a subpoena for Gallaine Maxwell,
(07:25):
a committee Aid wrote, the committee will seek to subpoena
Maxwell as expeditiously as possible since she is in federal prison.
The Committee would work with the Department of Justice and
Bureau of Prisons to identify a date when the Committee
can depose her. The deposition will help the American people
understand how Jeffrey Epstein was able to carry out his
evil actions for so long without being brought to justice.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
President Trump is trying to maintain the pivot that he
got into with the Wall Street Journal of saying, look
at the media, they're out to get me with the
MAGA based kind of calming down a little bit when
it came to this. He's trying to add on to
that today, shifting the public's focus away from the Jeffrey
Epstein case by urging his Justice Department to go after
(08:12):
Barack Obama. Finally, I'll tell you about that when we
come back.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI.
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Died surrounded by love.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Ozzy Osbourne reportedly passed away this morning surrounded by his
family Sharon Jack Kelly Amy Lewis born John Michael Osbourne
in Birmingham, England, December third, nineteen forty eight.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
He was first.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Nicknamed Ozzie back in primary school. Say his childhood was challenging,
but music was always an outlet. He had dyslexia, claimed
he was sexually abused by bullies when he was eleven
at tight tempted suicide as a teenager, but he says
(09:04):
it was the Beatles nineteen sixty four songs She Loves
You for inspiring him to pursue a music career. Imagine
that a Beatles sweet sugary she loves You song inspiring
the head of Black Sabbath.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
He dropped out of school at fifteen, worked several trade jobs.
Two years later spent six weeks in the Winston Green
prison because he stole from a clothing store and couldn't
pay the fine. Once he was released from prison, he
and his friend Geezer Butler formed their first band.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
It was called Rare Breed.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
With Ossie on vocals, and then in nineteen sixty seven,
of course, became a founding member of Black Sabbath, who
I think kicked him out for being a drunkard and
being drunken high all the time, which was funny, I
think because they were all on drugs.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
But he was better at it.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, I guess, of course he was. They were often
criticized Black Sabbath. This is not news to anyone as
their dark for their dark satanic themes or what have you.
He told interviewer back in twenty sixteen. When we started
gigging way back then, as soon as we started playing
the songs opening chords, young girls in the audience would
(10:20):
efing freak out.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
They thought we were Satan.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Efing friends or something, Satan's efing friends or something.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
That's how I remember the early Ozzy Osbourne.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I mean, I was Prince of Darkness eight, nine, ten
years old. When well I was eleven years old.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I remember there was a kid, I think here in
California who had committed suicide and his parents sued Ozzie
and the record company CBS at the time sued because
of the lyrics of the song where to Hide Suicide
is the Only Way Out, don't you know what it's
really about? And they argued that this kid committed suicide
(10:59):
because of the those lyrics and that Ozzy should be
criminally charged. The courts ruled in his favor. There's no
connection between the song and the suicide. He was sued
over it again several years later. But that idea that
Ozzy Osbourne and music like that was detrimental to teenagers
was such a huge issue in the early eighties.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
When he was kicked out of Black Sabbath in nineteen
seventy nine. The manager of Black Sabbath was a guy
by the name of Don Arden, and it was Don's
daughter who decided to manage Ozzy as a solo act.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
His daughter was Sharon.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
He'd go on to make twelve solo albums, Crazy Train,
momm Coming Home No More. You know, you know the
collection everybody does. Inducted into the UK Music Hall of
Fame in two thousand and five, rock and Roll Hall
of Fame in two thousand and six. And then let's
talk about the colorful aspects of Ozzie's life, because how
can you not.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Like the dove and the bat. The bat.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
He bit the head off of a bat during a
concert in January nineteen eighty two. The next month, he
was arrested in Texas for peeing on a propman to
honor people who died at the Battle of the Alamo.
That was the year Here and Sharon got married, went
on to have three kids, and then they were really
the first to have that reality show that I.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Had so much fun watching that show because again, I
had grown up with the image that Ozzy Osbourne was
the incarnation of Satan on the earth, and you were
not supposed to listen to him. He was bad for you.
He's bad for your health. And it's not that my
parents were overly religious or anything like that. They just
thought that it was dark.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
The show premiered March two thousand and two and ran
for three years, yes one of the first of its kind,
if not the first. In the first season, The Osbourne's
was the most viewed series in MTV history. Jack later
alleged his father hated filming the show. That Ozzie recounted
(13:04):
a couple of years ago, I don't know how the
Kardashians have done it for so long.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
It sent us crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
At the end, he said, I'm not sorry I did it,
But after three or four years, I said, do you
know what, We're going to lose somebody because this is
getting too crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
It traumatized him. And his family.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
He said that there's rock and roll fame, which is intense,
but that the reality show level of fame was unbelievable
and that the kids paid for it.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
He said they all ended.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Up doing drugs, that his son Jack got clean and
sober on that show. Kelly messed up on that show,
I was messed up. Sharon got cancer.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And remember there there's another daughter also, Amy Amy. So
Amy didn't want to have anything to do with that show,
and the questions surrounding why would she not? I mean
at the time, why would she not want to have
all this great new fame and everything?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
And that makes perfect sense genius.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
As a well documented Ozzy Osbourne struggled heavy drug and
alcohol addiction throughout his life. Introduced to cocaine in nineteen
seventy one, an early adopter later claimed that he took
LSD every day for two years while in Black Sabbath.
At the end of his time with the band, he
said he got very drunk and very stoned every single day.
(14:20):
He did get into some legal trouble in September nineteen
eighty nine when he tried to kill his wife Sharon.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
He was too drunk to remember the incident.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
She ended up dropping the charges, but he did have
to do six months in rehab.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
There was a show recently that he did where he
didn't do much on stage, I mean, basically just sat that.
We've seen that with aging rockers a lot in the
last decade or so, where either they can't or they
don't want to get up and dance around the stage
like they used to.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
So he sat in a big throne the whole time.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
As you mentioned, he was diagnosed with Parkinson's in February
of twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
He had emphysema.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Who's diagnosed in February of twenty twenty and Ozzie dead
at the age of seventy six.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Not that I thought the guy was going to live forever,
very believable, but it's one of those people who has
been around your whole life. Yeah, So it is unbelievable
to feel like there's a world where Ozzy Osbourne isn't
breaking flying by the seat of his pants somewhere, all right.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So as more tributes come in to Ozzie, we'll definitely
talk about him. There was an interesting issue last night.
Stephen Colbert had his first show since it was announced
that his show was going to be canceled. Shannon has
a rant. I do have a rant locked and loaded
when we come back.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Just a couple of weeks after his after his farewell show,
he said his daughter Kelly apparently got engaged at that
show to her boyfriend. Oh, I didn't know, but a
lot of people have been chiming in about their memories
of Ozzie.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
In the nineties. Very two thousand took my sixteen year
old boy go see Ozzy at Glenn Helen and I
was like three three different little shows going on, and
Ozzie came out on the main stage. Best time, I said,
I never had it In five minutes for show you
(16:32):
ever been tore? I was glad it was Ozzy. I
love you all.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Bye, Yeah, thanks.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I know a handful of people who saw Ozzy or
Black Sabbath in concert.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Black Sabbath seems to be one of those coming of
age bands that transcends the time that it was around. Like,
I think Black Sabbath means the same to that guy
as it probably means to his son, even though they
lived in different generals.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
And maybe neither one of them was alive when Black
Sabbath was originally together.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Another bit of info about Ozzie, by the way, it's
this germ germ. I'm in San Diego. I'm from the
band Black Little Prophecy and also the band Morning Star.
So there's my plug thing. But Amy has a singing
career that she was doing for.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
A while, Amy Osbourne, and she went under a.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
R oh like Aero, really good singer, and that's one
of the reasons why she didn't want to be.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
On the show. I'm going to miss you, Ozzie. You
were god man and you'll never be forgotten. Iconic, that's
for damn sure, very iconic. All right.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
So Stephen Colbert went on a rant he's been pulled
the networks as it's a financial decision, and a lot
of people have pointed to the fact that he makes money,
his show makes money, and how could it be a
financial decision when he show makes money, and that it's
(18:05):
more of a censorship thing because he is a vocal
opponent of President Trump and the parent company had just
settled right with Trump over the whole What was that
hole for kerfuffle about sixty minute, sixty minutes interview that
was heavily edited because it was here's my problem with
(18:26):
the people on the horse that are holier than now
up there in the rafters saying that this is the
government censoring the media and you know, quieting the voice
of the people.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
And no, no, no, this is probably.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
A long term, great financial decision late night from what
I remember, and I was never really old enough or
to appreciate it or watch it being up that late
when it was in its heyday, but from my memory,
it never involved any sort of politics. It was not controversial.
(19:03):
It was the stars of the day of the hour
that would come on, sit on who whoever couched with it,
Carson or Letterman or Leto or whoever was the host,
and there would be musical guests and there would be comics,
and it was fun and it was a variety show
but not controversial, and that's what you loved about it,
(19:24):
and that's why it got so many ratings.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
It turned nobody off the first.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Time I saw Stephen Colbert and John Stewart for that matter,
on the Daily Show. I was not a Comedy Central
connoisseur in this twenty years ago, and I remember going
to someone's house and they had watched this, and I
remember thinking, huh, so it's like a Late night show,
but totally skewed politically. And back then, Stephen Colbert, his
(19:50):
whole start was making fun of Bill O'Reilly being Bill
O'Reilly to the fact where you're nauseated by Bill O'Reilly.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
And it was brilliant at the time.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Bill Riley wildly popular but very much full of himself
and his ideas, and Colbert just struck gold with that
on Comedy Central, right right on Comedy Central, not Late Night,
not for the masses, for that niche market of people
who would get the humor, who would be left leaning,
(20:20):
who would enjoy it. You start taking that and putting
it in front of America, It's not going to play
the same way. That's not what Late night TV set
out to do. It set out to be for everyone.
And I don't know this, but this is my feeling.
I feel like it was made for everybody, brought us
all together so we could forget all the bs we
disagreed about.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Well, that was an attitude, was not that. It's still
not the attitude, but it's forgotten. I think in a
lot of places, why cut out half of your audience.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
You want to have.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
You want to bring in as many eyeballs to a
television show as possible, So make it something that can
appeal to everyone. You may not find it funny necessarily,
but you're not offended by it.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Right and now, so much of it offends polarizing.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Its politics has made its way into sports, It's made
its way into late night, and I like the idea
of getting rid of it, Like I like the eradication
of politics from football and sports in general and comedy
and all that. I don't deal with it. I don't
want that bleeding in. Yes, they got to stay on
top of the news. Yeah, I got to figure out
what's going on Washington or what's going on in Sacramento. Okay,
(21:31):
But when I'm relaxing, when I just want to laugh,
when I want things light, get it out here.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Well we come back. I'll play for you.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
What Colbert said last night and again his first showback
since he was notified that he was losing that he
was losing his job. And by the way, Wall Street
Journal says that show loses forty million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
It could make a hell of a lot more that's
for sure I could.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
And also what Johnny Carson has said about that very
important topic of why would I want to dip my
toe into a political world when all there's no win
Johnny Carson.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Thinks Johnny Carson didn't find himself so self important I
have to get into.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
This, and he mentions that, oh, it's such a great
play for that when we come back.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Half an hour ago.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
A little less than that, a little more than I
should say that we got that Ozzy Osbourne passed away
at the age of seventy six. Just got a text
from a group text with someboddies that said that Ozzie
passed away.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Maybe you can check on that and check out everybody. No, thanks,
thank you for listening. Appreciate that.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
Hey, Gary Shannon.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
I was fortunate enough to be in Birmingham and England
for his final show, and Wow, though he was confined
to his throne, you could see the guy still wanted
to rock and to see the tributes from all the
amazing art artists that were there. It was just absolutely
unbelievable and I almost tend to believe that that was
(23:07):
his final hurrah and that's how he wanted to go out,
So he will be missed for sure.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It's kind of proof something that occurs to you. I
think as we get older is people don't really change.
They're the same people they've always been. They just get older,
Like we don't grow into some sort of grown up
version all the time. Like he is proof of that,
(23:34):
Like he is the same guy he was when he
was nineteen years old, you know, I mean I was
reading about how he you know, he just as recently
as ten years ago or twelve I think it was
twenty thirteens, twelve years ago. Who's like I'm back into
drugs and alcohol, like he just giving up. The ghost
was just not a thing for Ozzy Osbourne. And he
(23:57):
really was that guy on that reality show. You know,
he appeared to be an old man or an older man,
and know the way that he behaved was just the
same Guysically.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, I mean physically you could see that he was aged,
but yeah, but definitely not whatever is going on his
internal right spirit, his personality.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
The same guy were the same people. It's like you
on your vacation, you know, you were putting on the
same speedo you put on in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
You know, no, no, that one in ninety two was black.
Oh but you know you're the same guy.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Likes to go out fun in the sun and your speedo.
You know, outgrow that.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Stephen Colbert took to the stage last night for the
first time since it was announced that CBS is going
to end his show on Friday.
Speaker 9 (24:41):
Donald Trump posted, I absolutely love that Colbert got fired.
His talent was even less than his ratings. How dare you, sir,
would an untalented man be able to compose the following
satirical witticism yourself?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
So we are talking about the political nature of shows now.
When Saturday Night Live started also getting political outside of
their weekend update, that's when they got some of the
harshest criticisms for the contra I mean, they had some
dark years where they just were not funny, but they
(25:28):
also had some years where they were funny. But everything
had to be political. Every show open had to be political,
every you know, the major players in the cast all
had to be able to do a good political.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Imitation. And that well, there was.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Great sccess off of that. Like I mentioned, like twenty
years ago Daily Show and the Colbert Report, like there
was great success, and I think people wanted a little
bit of that success if that's.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Where you were going, Like, if that's why you were
known for that. But and we mentioned this, and you
reference this also. Johnny Carson did an interview with sixty
Minutes I believe many many years ago, and the question was,
you know, why don't you get political, Why don't you
do political things?
Speaker 4 (26:17):
People say you'll never take a serious controversy. Well, I
have an answer to that, I said, Now tell me
the last time that Jack Benny red Skelton uh Benny
comedian used his show to do serious issues.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
That's not what I'm there for. Can't they see that?
Speaker 4 (26:36):
But you and I do they think that just because
you have it Tonight's show, that you must deal in
serious issues. That's a danger. It's a real danger. Once
you start that, you start to get that self important feeling.
That's what you say as greatly important. And you know,
strangely enough, you could use that show as a form
you could sway people, and I don't think you should
(26:56):
as an entertainer.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
That's so funny that I was like that That's how
it came across to me, like, why are you so
self important that you think that?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
And that's what he said.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well, and think about where comedy in general is, if
you're going to go see a stand up comedian, you
do not want to hear politics. And very few stand
up comedians want to do political humor because they know
half the room's going to get up and leave, or
half the room's going to go back and talk about
how bad you were. Regardless of the other part of
(27:27):
your show, which was hilarious, you didn't agree with them politically,
and that's going to taint your impression of them. We
talk about that when we talk about a movie and
TV actress who get involved politically.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
And you don't.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
You have to grate your teeth to watch a show
that they're in because you know how they act politically
and you don't like that.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I hate talking politics on this show, but it's a
news centric show, so it's unavoidable.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
But I don't think.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
I mean, growing up in news, I never thought that
my opinion mattered and I still don't think my opinion
matters at all to anybody outside of this outrun in
my brain. So you know, It's like, I get it.
You know, why would you want to, especially at a
fun when you could just have fun and you could
(28:17):
just talk to, you know, musical guests.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
There is a funny thing that obviously the President is
happy about this because he's no fan of Colbert. He
actually believes that Jimmy Kimmel is going to be next
and booted from his show, and that Fallon and maybe
Seth Myers could be a listen that the whole Jimmy
Fallon doesn't get into politics anywhere.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Well, the President also doesn't need to take himself as
seriously like have a little fun. You're the president. People
are gonna have fun with you. Politics aside. They're going
to have fun with you, whether it's your ears or
your feet or whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
And come on, you know, he loves the attention totally.
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