June 13, 2025 • 31 mins
Padilla least likely to pull stunt says former roommate. The gift Trump never meant to give: the spotlight to Gavin Newsom. The latest on Indian plane crash. Deep dive on another lone plane crash survivor.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
App seventy six.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Oh that's fun. Yeah, was there a reason? Spirit of
seventy six?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Spirit of seventy six next ten year. Next year will
be the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of this America.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Ah, let's see if we make it you guys?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Can I just interject one thing? Is this about Eagles?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
No, it's about you.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
I was listening to that music and you hear the
guys start singing, and I was like, that could be Gary.
And then you hear the afternoon until and you hear
the girl, and I was like, that could be Shannon.
And then I have this visual that I can no
longer get out of my head of you guys singing
that song.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I will say this, Amy, it's funny that you mentioned
that I tried a couple of months ago to put
together an album cover as a sort of like promotional
material fluish for the show, using one of those AI
image generators to make an album cover of Shannon and
I if we were a singing duo from the mid seventies.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Oh, funny and is that what came up?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
No, but it's funny because I have I mean you
saying that reminds me of the image that it was
a really bad image and it did something awful to
our faces.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Ah, worse than reality, worse than reality. I hear that
song and I think of I think of Anchorman with
Ron Burgundy and.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
So that sole survivor of the Air India crash yesterday
that killed more than two hundred and forty people did
another interview this morning saying I can't believe how I
came out of it alive. We'll have all of his
comments coming up at the bottom of the hour after
Amy's news.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Okay, let's go through some of the facts about what
we know about what happened. During a Secretary Christy Noam's
news conference yesterday over in Westwood, Secretary Noam Homeland Security
was giving an update on the immigration enforcement operations that
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have been taking place and her department's role in them.
She was in the midst of kind of going after
Gavenoussom and Karen Bass for being obstacles in the way
of these enforcement operations, and secret Sorry Senator Alex Padilla
was got into the room and started shouting questions before.
(02:26):
The Secret Service, by the way, not the FBI. It's
the Secret Service that guards cabinet members. For the most part,
they did not have any idea who this guy was.
And then even when he did say that his name, that.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I am Senator Alex Padilla, and I want to ask
the Secretariat question, there's no guarantee that the Secret Service
is then going to go, oh, you're right, sir, you
are Alex Padilla.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
We have your picture on file and we know who
you are.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
That's not the way the Secret Service works in any capacity,
let alone a very highly tight secure area like the
Federal building in Westwood.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Enforce first, ask questions later, which has a good law
enforcement member.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
They got the guy out of the room, the guy
being a senator from the Great State of California. He
got onto his knees. They put him on the ground
and then they put handcuffs on him. Yes, he was
able to identify himself with whatever. I don't know to
do senators carry a card that says this is a
Senator from the Great State of California.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I don't know. They figured out who he was. They
took the handcuffs off, they let him go.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Padilla is an unlikely whore.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
To put it blankly, He's a soft, centered guy.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
He is.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I've covered him before.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
He is.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
He's called a nerd amongst his peers when he was
in Sacramento and locally. He is very soft spoken. He's
a routine guy. He's a rule follower guy. Son of
a Mexican born housekeeper, short order cook, trained as an
engineer at MIT before entering politics in his twenties. He
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is the least likely member of California's congressional delegation to
stage some sort of stagey protest like this.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
But there's one thing I want to point out that
I don't know a lot of people have made hay
of yesterday. Some of the first images, first video that
was posted on Twitter on x was from Alex Padilla's office.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
One of the staff members cocked in.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I caught that in real time, one of the yeah
with their phone recording what I was about to happen.
It was no doubt meant to be a political stunt
from start to finish, and even before then, this was
premeditated to the hilt. And yes, one of his staffers
I noticed was one of the first with his phones
out taping the entire thing before it even got heated.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Right now, there's now I'm not saying that Senator Padia
wanted to be tackled by the Secret Service or even
thought that he would be tackled by the Secret Service.
He thought he was going to get into a shouting
match with Secretary Noam about whatever it has been going
on with ICE agents here in southern California.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
There's one reaction to the shrinking Violet making a show
the way that he did yesterday, and one of those
reactions you'll get from Gavin Newsom and many others on
the left, and it's well, if they do this to
a senator, imagine what else. And it had to have
been a huge deal for Alex Padilla to make a
big deal out of it, had to be huge and
entirely personal and emotional for him to stage such a stunt.
(05:42):
I look at at it maybe more cynically in terms
of if Alex Padilla is now doing this, we are screwed.
If Alex Padilla is now the political dog and pony show,
then there are no people left in power that are
just there to do the job. Everyone's out for number
one or further, every crisis or what have you like,
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politics is not without dramatics at any stage.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Now, it is funny that you mentioned that we've talked
about this, you know, the old rama manual line, which
has never let a crisis go un used. What does
what's the exact term, I don't remember, but basically, you
can make political hay out of any situation, good or bad.
And we were postulating over the last couple of days.
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Gavin Newsom is being given He's being handed a giant
nationwide soapbox, and one of the questions that we had
was being California centric, how is he being received in
this situation, how is he being received by other parts
of the country.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I think it was an emotional thing for Alex Padilla.
I mean everything that I said I do think is
true in terms of everyone's been tainted by the over
politicalization of our world.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I I don't believe he is the political whore.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I don't believe he is the guy to just make
hay out of anything. I think it was very emotional.
If there is a politician who's a US senator who
should get involved and actually feel emotional and not have
crocodile tears. It's Alex Padia just for the reasons that
I laid out, Mexican born housekeeper as a mom, short
order cook as a dad. He's not the Gavin Newsom
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who grew up in Marin and sends his kids to
the seventy thousand dollars a year school, who is crying
for the immigrants. Gavin Newsom has no idea what he's
talking about, at least Alex Padilla does.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
It's interesting, though, because there have been a couple of articles,
the spotlight that's been given to Gavin Newsom and that
The Hill dot com today piece by Arnie Paris says
that Democrats outside of California are now cheering this guy
as being Okay, maybe this is our standard bearer against
Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
So we'll talk about those two articles. Yeah, but what
is he going to do with that? That's the thought?
But what are you gonna do with it?
Speaker 7 (08:02):
Right? You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
You know, today's thirteenth, Right Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Oh goodness, I don't know what that means. My husband
had somebody schedule a meeting for three pm today on
a Friday, on a Friday, and on a Friday the thirteenth,
which just adds worse things to it. And I thought
to myself, what kind of monsters schedule meetings for Friday afternoons? Like,
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first of all, nobody wants to be there. Second of all,
it's not gonna be productive because no one's gonna ask
questions or actually care that they're even there.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
They're just gonna be looking at their watch the entire everyone's.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Gonna be sitting there pissed off, thinking about all the
traffic that's backing up right and all the things that
they could be doing, or what the weekend is, or
I mean, it is the least productive time ever. I
would I would argue, Friday at three pm, you low
blood sugar, time of day, all the things.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
That's an awful it's just.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
The stupidest thing. If I had gotten that email, if
somebody had booked us for a meeting at Friday at
three pm, yes, I would be very honest about my
feelings on this matter. I would not reply sounds great,
see you. Then I'd be like, can we do it
Monday morning at seven like any other time?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Or send me an email I'll read it lately any
other time.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
Happy Friday, Gary and Channel, and thank you for the
amazing Bumper music.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Today.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
I feel like I'm eleven years old again, back at
skate Palace in Lake Forest. Jealous awesome because everything else
that's going on is just crazy. But thank you and
enjoy your weekend and drive safely Gary. Bye.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
By the way, I realized as she's saying that we
had Cowskate, did you guys?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Of course I went to We went to the same
cowskate you and I.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
No.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I went to the one up north. It was hard.
Oh yeah, same same same, Hi hi Hi.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
We also went to the Snoopy ice skating rink in
Santa Rosa.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Another reason why kids these days are bigger than they were.
We don't have any skating rinks anymore. Do we like
roller skating?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I love that we're pinning on childhood, childhood obesity, on
lack of col skate.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
So we were talking about Gavin Newsom's higher profile nationally
because of what's been going on in California. He wants
to pin violence in the streets on the militarization of
LA by saying that Donald Trump should never have brought
in the National Guard and now the Marines that are
going to be on the streets, said that that was
a needless deployment. Gaven Newsom was then granted, I guess
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you would granted a prime time speaking slot on national
television to respond. We saw that on I believe it
was Tuesday night, and there was a particular attention paid
to his grooming that night. Everything was high and tight.
There are a couple articles. Number one George Skelton, longtime
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political writer columnist for the La Times, who says that
Donald Trump, in his provocation here in southern California, has
given this is his words. This time he unwittingly provided
priceless attention for an adversary, in this case Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
See it's so cute.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
George Skelton has been in the game for so long
that he still believes this is about politics, and it's
it is right now, but it's about money in the
long term. And look no further than Donald Trump. Donald
Trump's comments this week. I like Gavin. I've always liked Gavin.
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These two are not adversaries. They're both in it for
the long game, which is to make money. This I
firmly believe Trump is doing Gavin new a favor here
based on the fact that he likes Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
These two are cut from the same cloth.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Wait a minute, that he wants Gavin Newsom to win
financially somehow.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I mean they can both win financially down the line
after their their prospective administrations. But like they like each other,
they get they are cut from the same cloth, these two.
And the insinuation that Trump's upset that Gavin news The
other thing is Trump has a oh, bless your heart
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kind of vibe when it comes to Gavin Newsom. He's
not worried about Gavin Newsom unseating him or his or
whoever comes behind him.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
He's just doing him a favor. It's funny. Arnie Parneses
writes in The Hill dot com. Gavin Newsom is meeting
the moment, which is a term that you used yesterday.
I don't remember if you used it tongue in cheek,
but they said, basically.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Course, if I used it unronically, then shoot me in
the face.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Amid the growing storm over the administration's response to protests,
which hit a new cre Shando Thursday, Newsom is doing
what his party wants he's punching back and he's going
on offense, and then Partness goes through and talks to
a bunch of different people higher up in the Democratic parties,
democratic strategists, etc. And said it may have been a
horrible week for the country, but Gavin Newsom has been
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a credible voice of so many people's discontent, discontent and
the anxiety about Trump's America. Another one said that Newsom
had been good at framing the actions as a massive
overreaction and an abuse of authority.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
There's a couple of problems with it.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Although in my mind there's some problems with it, it
may be well received the way he's doing some of this.
I get super annoyed at the social media trolling that
goes back and forth. And I know people like Gavin
Newsom don't always control their own social media accounts. It's
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a group of snarky, sarcastic twenty somethings.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
But if he didn't like it, he could say take
it down.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
But he could say take it down. It that that
kind of uh.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I guess I don't know what my expectation is when
it comes to political discourse these days, but that's an
annoyance to me, if you want to be the one
who believes that they have the moral authority, that they
have the moral and ethical high ground here, then act
like it and rise above the petty social media stuff. Yeah,
(14:24):
that doesn't do anything to me. I agree, But again
that's me. I bet there are people who are like well,
dyl Trump uses social media, so we got to fight
back on the same on the same battleground.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
No, you don't people love that, they love the snark,
they love the bitchiness on Twitter or what have you
to To me, it just comes across juvenile. And maybe
that's just because I'm an old. But where does that
get you, I guess to your point at further the conversation,
how does that make you the adult in the room
that people want to trust with their vote in the country.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Eddie Vale is another Democratic strateg justin He said that
this current posture that Gavin Newsom has could do well
in a Democratic primary if he in fact decides to
run for president. Spoiler alert, He's going to run for president.
But veil And asks the question is will this be
the version of Newsom who shows up or the one
who was hosting right wing podcasters a few weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Well, it's an interesting question that you ask, and I
bet there are a lot of paid consultants right now
mulling over that very question in conference rooms and zoom
calls in Palo Alto and DC and everywhere in between.
I think this is a real time where the Democrats
are figuring out whether they circle their wagons around Gavin
Newsom to go for this thing. And there's a lot
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of cost benefit analysis, isn't there. There's a lot of
good things about Gavin Newsom. There's a lot of bad
things about him that could just be torn apart in
any sort of primary and definitely the general. But it
comes down to Gavin Newsom and how is he going
to use this massive platform he's been provided so far?
Then this week may have been a time to make
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some hay. We'll see, maybe they're waiting and seeing. Maybe
it's all very choreographed and there will be moments to
meet that he will meet.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
But so far it's been underground podcast stuff all right.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Up next, the latest on that plane crash out of India.
The British sole survivor of that Air India crash. We'll
hear more from his story about what that was like.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM.
Six forty.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Two hundred Marines have now moved into La helping protect
federal property and personnel. The commander in charge, Major General
Scott Sherman, is commander of Task Force fifty one, said
that the Marines have finished training on civil disturbance. Said
these Marines are going to take over their operations at
noon local time today. Downtown LA. Marines will join some
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two thousand National Guard troops that have been on the
streets of the city since last week when immigration enforcement
actions set off some of those protests.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Coming up next to the number of carpool lane chets
in California skyrocketing. I have been flying fast and loose
with the carpool lane when I should not be.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I gotta be honest, and I have tinted windows. No, no,
you don't even have tinted windows. I am just I'm
a lawbreaker.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
You got that big old blonde bobblehead sticking out of
the driver's seat and you don't even have tinted windows.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
You are so complimentary sometimes I don't even know how
to handle it, Like it's so overwhelming that I'm just
beside myself with the feelings that you provide me.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
The sized blonde ish.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I think we just abort at this moment, but we'll.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Talk about it.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
The sole survivor of the Air India crash that killed
over two hundred and forty people does not know how
he made it alive. He's just like us lying in
the hospital bed this morning. Viswash Kumar Ramesh did his
best to explain. He told local Indian national broadcaster d
D News. I can't believe myself how I came out
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of it alive, because for a while I thought I
was going to die as well. But when I opened
my eyes, I saw that I was alive. So I
tried to open my seat belt and I was able
to get out. This was the London bound Boeing seven
eight seven Dreamliner crashed in northwestern India just right after takeoff.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Everyone else on board died.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
A lot of people on the ground and to the
medical college and the plane crash into died as well.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
He does have a wife, he has a child.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
He's forty. He lives in London.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
He was traveling back to London with his brother after
visiting family there.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Obviously, my brother died.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
He says after takeoff, after five to ten seconds, it
seemed like the aircraft was stuck. He said, green and
white lights came on inside the plane before it hit
the building. Now videos from the scene suggest the plane
was only in the air for about thirty seconds before
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it descended and crashed in that blaze of fire. As
we told you yesterday, he was seated in eleven A,
that window seat in the first exit row of standard economy.
He said his part of the plane landed on the
ground floor of the hostel and that he noticed the
emergency door was broken by the impact. He says, when
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the door broke, I saw there was a bit of space,
so I tried to get out, and I was able
to get out. I just walked out. He didn't have
to jump out of the plane. He just walked out,
he said.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
There was an article in the Wall Street Journal about
asks the question, how is it that one person can
survive a crash that kills two hundred and forty some
odd to other people, Just the weird chance of the
kind of forces that exist in a crash of a
massive vehicle like that, And how that one tiny pocket
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somehow spares that one guy and they actually refer to
another accident that had happened back in Detroit in nineteen
eighty seven, one hundred and fifty five people on board
of DC nine that crashed just after takeoff in Detroit
Northwest Airlines's flight two fifty five. The wreckage of this
thing was almost three quarters of a mile long. I mean,
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the debris field three quarters of a mile. Two highway
overpasses were covered with all of this. Every single one
of the passenger seats was detached from the airframe and
scattered along the way. One hundred and fifty four people died.
One survivor was a four year old girl, role found
underneath one of those highway overpasses, and again she was
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seated in eight f not that I mean that. I
don't know what the configuration of a DC nine, but
there's something about the random nature of a plane disintegrating
like that, and how while everyone else is killed by
blunt force trauma, there's something that happened in that one
tiny little pocket of space for that preschooler back in
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nineteen eighty seven, and for this guy yesterday.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I mean, she's what forty forty two now, you wonder
where is she now? And what was life like. I'm
surprised we haven't seen something like that. You know, we
get the We get the baby. Jessica updates every so often,
every ten years or so. John Hansman is a professor
of aeronautics and astronautics at MIT. He says that the
survival is a miracle, especially considering where he was sitting
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in the plane, toward the front of the aircraft. That
the prevailing wisdom has long been that the safest part
of the plane is the back. John Hansman's is typically
in an airplane accident, being in the back of the
airplane is better because you sort of had the front
of the airplane as a shock absorber to take some
of the impact loads. But in this case, which he
describes as a landing accident, the landing gear and the
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tail were likely. The first part of the plane to
hit the ground. Was the landing gear down though, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
It was down. They had never retracted the.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Land okay, so he says, because the tail hit first,
it would have then caused the whole fuselage to rotate
forward and slam into the ground, and that would cause
breaking of the fuselage. If he said, he went through
a break. That was what caused that break. It was
that opening and this guy's quick thinking that let him
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get out of the plane far enough away before he
could get severely burned. He says, in some cases you
can actually survive, and people do survive the impact damage,
but it's the fire that ends up getting you.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Weird.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
He, by the way, says, there's no unsafest seat on
the plane.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Obviously, it varies wildly based on the model, the type
of crash, all of the things.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I have found. The survivor of that Northwest Airlines flight.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Oh, time Moore, there's an article that just came out,
oh about two hours.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Ago, but let's do that when we come back, talk
about it. Definitely.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Israel launched a massive attack on the heart of Iran's
nuclear and military structure overnight. They deployed warplanes and drones,
even those that were smuggled into Iran, to target key
facilities and kill some of the top generals and scientists.
Multiple sites around Iran were hit early today, including Iran's
main nuclear enrichment facility. In Iranian news outlet close to
(23:48):
the government reported that a couple of explosions were also
here heard near the four toh Nuclear Enrichment site, which
is one of those very deep underground sites and response.
The United States has been shit lifting some military resources
in the Middle East to Israel's strikes and Iran possible
retaliatory attack is expected by Tehran, so the Navy has
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directed the destroyer USS Thomas Hudner to begin sailing from
the Western med toward the Eastern Mediterranean, has directed a
second destroyer to begin moving forward so it could be
available if necessary.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Talking about this Boeing seven eight seven Dreamliner crash yesterday
India to Britain, where there is one survivor out of
at least more than two hundred and forty people were
killed in that crash, and late in the show yesterday
we made a mention of how there was another flight
disaster that's being talked about in connection with what happened
in India, some parallels there. It was Northwest Airlines Flight
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two fifty five in August sixteenth, nineteen eighty seven, and
it was shortly after eight forty five pm that the
Northwest flight left Detroit bound for Phoenix Sky Harbor.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
And just like in India.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
This jet in nineteen eighty seven failed to achieve lift
and slammed into the ground shortly after takeoff. And just
like this Air India flight, there was one sole.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Survivor in this case, it was a four year old
four year old Cecilia c Chin of Tempe found among
the wreckage.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
And like I said, it was a three thousand foot
long debris field. It was massive.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
And when they found this little girl underneath one of
the overpasses where the plane crash took place, they originally
thought she was probably from one of the vehicles that
was on the roadway. There's no way that a kid
would be able to survive a plane crash like this.
She was identified the next day because of the purple
fingernail polish and her name that she knew. Of course,
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she's four, matched the mother, her father, and her older
brother that died in the plane crash. She immediately was
taken in by an aunt and uncle. They raised her
very carefully. It was probably the right way to put
it away from the spotlight. They did not allow her
to speak to the media until twenty six years later.
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CNN did a documentary a few years ago called Soul
survivor where they interviewed Cecilia and some other people about
what it's like to be the sole survivor in a
situation like that. So at the time, I mean, she's
thirty years old. She's a full grown adult by this point,
married a degree in psychology from the University of Alabama.
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She says in twenty thirteen, she said, I've never been happier.
I think about the accident every day. It's hard not
to think about it when I look in the mirror,
my arms and my legs. I even have a scar
on my forehead. She also has a tattoo of an
airplane on her wrists, right.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
On her left wrist, right there. And there is apparently
a Facebook group with more than five hundred members the
families of the victims that stay in contact with one
another to this day. They share photos of the people
they lost in that Crashroom nineteen eighty seven organized memorial
services on the anniversary of the tragedy. They do these
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memorial services quite regularly, especially at the specific time.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
They will gather along I ninety four.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
There the names of the victims, so we'll be right
at eight forty six, the time of the flight's.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Crash, So that crash was nineteen eighty seven. Just a
couple of years before that, there was a crash in
Reno Galaxy Airlines flight two oh three.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
It was the middle of the night.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
It was a bunch of football fans that were on
a charter flight from Minneapolis to Reno. Of the seventy
one passengers and crew on board that flight bound for Minneapolis,
only one survived, a seventeen year old kid is named
George Lamson Junior. A minute after takeoff from Reno, the
pilot notified the tower of a severe vibration wanted an
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immediate return, but the plane went down just a few
seconds lateater this guy, This seventeen year old kid, George
Lampson Junior, still strapped in his seat, was launched through
the fireball that erupted when the plane crashed and landed
on South Virginia Street in Reno.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
His dad actually survived the crash initially, but died at
the hospital days later.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
George Lampson was knocked out but did not suffer serious
enough injuries that he was released from the hospital about
a week later, went back to Minnesota, accompanied by his mom.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Obviously to bury dad, so.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
With Cecilia, she was four.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
You kind of grow up with the knowledge, right, it
doesn't I don't want to say it's easier, but it's
probably easier. You grow up with the knowledge that happened.
You probably have a very limited memory. Just to say
it almost would probably not feel real. Yeah, even if
it was explained to you later in life.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
He's seventeen. Lambson is George Lambson.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
He says or he did an interview about ten years ago.
Says he thinks about it every day. She said the
same thing. By the way, she says she thinks about
it every day even though she was four. That's just
part of who she is.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
How could she not?
Speaker 4 (29:08):
And he says, I try not to think about it,
but it's just part of who I am.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
What happened to me.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I try to take this memory as one that I'm
grateful being here, as to asking why did this happen
to me?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Very very weird.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
George says he had a great experience in the hot
I mean, it's so weird. You just survived a plane crash,
had a great experience in the hospital in Reno, and
is still in contact with people that helped take care
of him.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
From that crash from nineteen eighty five. Incredible.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
But this guy, you know, he's forty. His brother dies
in this crash yesterday. I think forty is probably a
good age of what does this all mean? What do
I have to do with my life that I haven't done,
or what the purpose is and all of that.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Well, you're a kid, You're still kind, You're still kind
of rat and all around in there.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
And be one thing, if you are traveling solo, like
you're on a business trip somewhere and you end up
being the sole survivor of a crash, you don't lose
your family members. But for Cecilia, she lost her older
brother and her two parents, so she's got.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
To deal with that.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
George loses his dad, his dad, yeah, in the plane
crackh And it's I don't know how that changes. It
adds a different layer to it. But if you were
a sole survivor and you lost your family, right, be
different than if you were the sole survivor and got
to go home to your face.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
That's true, That is true.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I mean he still this guy from yesterday, it's his
brother obviously probably the closest person to him in his life,
but he has got a wife and a kid.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Little girl like he gets to go home too. Wow.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
All right, when we come back, what the hell is
going on in Iran?
Speaker 4 (30:49):
We'll have the latest.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
They're also big parade tomorrow, big air show, big tank show.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
We'll get into that as well.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Remember the last time, as we've learned Ty one, there
was a victory parayed for desert storm and it went
on without any sort of controversy, and it were sort
of ruckus or ruckus.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Worried about it.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Now, I mean we were celebrating at the time. I
guess we're celebrating too, the two hundred and fifty years
of the army. All right, Gary and Shannon will continue
right after this. You've been listening to The Gary and
Shannon Show. You can always hear us live on KFI
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
App seventy six.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Oh that's fun. Yeah, was there a reason? Spirit of
seventy six?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Spirit of seventy six next ten year. Next year will
be the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of this America.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Ah, let's see if we make it you guys?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Can I just interject one thing? Is this about Eagles?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
No, it's about you.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
I was listening to that music and you hear the
guys start singing, and I was like, that could be Gary.
And then you hear the afternoon until and you hear
the girl, and I was like, that could be Shannon.
And then I have this visual that I can no
longer get out of my head of you guys singing
that song.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I will say this, Amy, it's funny that you mentioned
that I tried a couple of months ago to put
together an album cover as a sort of like promotional
material fluish for the show, using one of those AI
image generators to make an album cover of Shannon and
I if we were a singing duo from the mid seventies.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Oh, funny and is that what came up?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
No, but it's funny because I have I mean you
saying that reminds me of the image that it was
a really bad image and it did something awful to
our faces.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Ah, worse than reality, worse than reality. I hear that
song and I think of I think of Anchorman with
Ron Burgundy and.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
So that sole survivor of the Air India crash yesterday
that killed more than two hundred and forty people did
another interview this morning saying I can't believe how I
came out of it alive. We'll have all of his
comments coming up at the bottom of the hour after
Amy's news.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Okay, let's go through some of the facts about what
we know about what happened. During a Secretary Christy Noam's
news conference yesterday over in Westwood, Secretary Noam Homeland Security
was giving an update on the immigration enforcement operations that
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have been taking place and her department's role in them.
She was in the midst of kind of going after
Gavenoussom and Karen Bass for being obstacles in the way
of these enforcement operations, and secret Sorry Senator Alex Padilla
was got into the room and started shouting questions before.
(02:26):
The Secret Service, by the way, not the FBI. It's
the Secret Service that guards cabinet members. For the most part,
they did not have any idea who this guy was.
And then even when he did say that his name, that.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I am Senator Alex Padilla, and I want to ask
the Secretariat question, there's no guarantee that the Secret Service
is then going to go, oh, you're right, sir, you
are Alex Padilla.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
We have your picture on file and we know who
you are.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
That's not the way the Secret Service works in any capacity,
let alone a very highly tight secure area like the
Federal building in Westwood.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Enforce first, ask questions later, which has a good law
enforcement member.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
They got the guy out of the room, the guy
being a senator from the Great State of California. He
got onto his knees. They put him on the ground
and then they put handcuffs on him. Yes, he was
able to identify himself with whatever. I don't know to
do senators carry a card that says this is a
Senator from the Great State of California.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I don't know. They figured out who he was. They
took the handcuffs off, they let him go.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Padilla is an unlikely whore.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
To put it blankly, He's a soft, centered guy.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
He is.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I've covered him before.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
He is.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
He's called a nerd amongst his peers when he was
in Sacramento and locally. He is very soft spoken. He's
a routine guy. He's a rule follower guy. Son of
a Mexican born housekeeper, short order cook, trained as an
engineer at MIT before entering politics in his twenties. He
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is the least likely member of California's congressional delegation to
stage some sort of stagey protest like this.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
But there's one thing I want to point out that
I don't know a lot of people have made hay
of yesterday. Some of the first images, first video that
was posted on Twitter on x was from Alex Padilla's office.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
One of the staff members cocked in.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I caught that in real time, one of the yeah
with their phone recording what I was about to happen.
It was no doubt meant to be a political stunt
from start to finish, and even before then, this was
premeditated to the hilt. And yes, one of his staffers
I noticed was one of the first with his phones
out taping the entire thing before it even got heated.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Right now, there's now I'm not saying that Senator Padia
wanted to be tackled by the Secret Service or even
thought that he would be tackled by the Secret Service.
He thought he was going to get into a shouting
match with Secretary Noam about whatever it has been going
on with ICE agents here in southern California.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
There's one reaction to the shrinking Violet making a show
the way that he did yesterday, and one of those
reactions you'll get from Gavin Newsom and many others on
the left, and it's well, if they do this to
a senator, imagine what else. And it had to have
been a huge deal for Alex Padilla to make a
big deal out of it, had to be huge and
entirely personal and emotional for him to stage such a stunt.
(05:42):
I look at at it maybe more cynically in terms
of if Alex Padilla is now doing this, we are screwed.
If Alex Padilla is now the political dog and pony show,
then there are no people left in power that are
just there to do the job. Everyone's out for number
one or further, every crisis or what have you like,
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politics is not without dramatics at any stage.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Now, it is funny that you mentioned that we've talked
about this, you know, the old rama manual line, which
has never let a crisis go un used. What does
what's the exact term, I don't remember, but basically, you
can make political hay out of any situation, good or bad.
And we were postulating over the last couple of days.
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Gavin Newsom is being given He's being handed a giant
nationwide soapbox, and one of the questions that we had
was being California centric, how is he being received in
this situation, how is he being received by other parts
of the country.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I think it was an emotional thing for Alex Padilla.
I mean everything that I said I do think is
true in terms of everyone's been tainted by the over
politicalization of our world.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I I don't believe he is the political whore.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I don't believe he is the guy to just make
hay out of anything. I think it was very emotional.
If there is a politician who's a US senator who
should get involved and actually feel emotional and not have
crocodile tears. It's Alex Padia just for the reasons that
I laid out, Mexican born housekeeper as a mom, short
order cook as a dad. He's not the Gavin Newsom
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who grew up in Marin and sends his kids to
the seventy thousand dollars a year school, who is crying
for the immigrants. Gavin Newsom has no idea what he's
talking about, at least Alex Padilla does.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
It's interesting, though, because there have been a couple of articles,
the spotlight that's been given to Gavin Newsom and that
The Hill dot com today piece by Arnie Paris says
that Democrats outside of California are now cheering this guy
as being Okay, maybe this is our standard bearer against
Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
So we'll talk about those two articles. Yeah, but what
is he going to do with that? That's the thought?
But what are you gonna do with it?
Speaker 7 (08:02):
Right? You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
You know, today's thirteenth, Right Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Oh goodness, I don't know what that means. My husband
had somebody schedule a meeting for three pm today on
a Friday, on a Friday, and on a Friday the thirteenth,
which just adds worse things to it. And I thought
to myself, what kind of monsters schedule meetings for Friday afternoons? Like,
(08:36):
first of all, nobody wants to be there. Second of all,
it's not gonna be productive because no one's gonna ask
questions or actually care that they're even there.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
They're just gonna be looking at their watch the entire everyone's.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Gonna be sitting there pissed off, thinking about all the
traffic that's backing up right and all the things that
they could be doing, or what the weekend is, or
I mean, it is the least productive time ever. I
would I would argue, Friday at three pm, you low
blood sugar, time of day, all the things.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
That's an awful it's just.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
The stupidest thing. If I had gotten that email, if
somebody had booked us for a meeting at Friday at
three pm, yes, I would be very honest about my
feelings on this matter. I would not reply sounds great,
see you. Then I'd be like, can we do it
Monday morning at seven like any other time?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Or send me an email I'll read it lately any
other time.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
Happy Friday, Gary and Channel, and thank you for the
amazing Bumper music.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Today.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
I feel like I'm eleven years old again, back at
skate Palace in Lake Forest. Jealous awesome because everything else
that's going on is just crazy. But thank you and
enjoy your weekend and drive safely Gary. Bye.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
By the way, I realized as she's saying that we
had Cowskate, did you guys?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Of course I went to We went to the same
cowskate you and I.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
No.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I went to the one up north. It was hard.
Oh yeah, same same same, Hi hi Hi.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
We also went to the Snoopy ice skating rink in
Santa Rosa.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Another reason why kids these days are bigger than they were.
We don't have any skating rinks anymore. Do we like
roller skating?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I love that we're pinning on childhood, childhood obesity, on
lack of col skate.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
So we were talking about Gavin Newsom's higher profile nationally
because of what's been going on in California. He wants
to pin violence in the streets on the militarization of
LA by saying that Donald Trump should never have brought
in the National Guard and now the Marines that are
going to be on the streets, said that that was
a needless deployment. Gaven Newsom was then granted, I guess
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you would granted a prime time speaking slot on national
television to respond. We saw that on I believe it
was Tuesday night, and there was a particular attention paid
to his grooming that night. Everything was high and tight.
There are a couple articles. Number one George Skelton, longtime
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political writer columnist for the La Times, who says that
Donald Trump, in his provocation here in southern California, has
given this is his words. This time he unwittingly provided
priceless attention for an adversary, in this case Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
See it's so cute.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
George Skelton has been in the game for so long
that he still believes this is about politics, and it's
it is right now, but it's about money in the
long term. And look no further than Donald Trump. Donald
Trump's comments this week. I like Gavin. I've always liked Gavin.
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These two are not adversaries. They're both in it for
the long game, which is to make money. This I
firmly believe Trump is doing Gavin new a favor here
based on the fact that he likes Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
These two are cut from the same cloth.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Wait a minute, that he wants Gavin Newsom to win
financially somehow.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I mean they can both win financially down the line
after their their prospective administrations. But like they like each other,
they get they are cut from the same cloth, these two.
And the insinuation that Trump's upset that Gavin news The
other thing is Trump has a oh, bless your heart
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kind of vibe when it comes to Gavin Newsom. He's
not worried about Gavin Newsom unseating him or his or
whoever comes behind him.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
He's just doing him a favor. It's funny. Arnie Parneses
writes in The Hill dot com. Gavin Newsom is meeting
the moment, which is a term that you used yesterday.
I don't remember if you used it tongue in cheek,
but they said, basically.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Course, if I used it unronically, then shoot me in
the face.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Amid the growing storm over the administration's response to protests,
which hit a new cre Shando Thursday, Newsom is doing
what his party wants he's punching back and he's going
on offense, and then Partness goes through and talks to
a bunch of different people higher up in the Democratic parties,
democratic strategists, etc. And said it may have been a
horrible week for the country, but Gavin Newsom has been
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a credible voice of so many people's discontent, discontent and
the anxiety about Trump's America. Another one said that Newsom
had been good at framing the actions as a massive
overreaction and an abuse of authority.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
There's a couple of problems with it.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Although in my mind there's some problems with it, it
may be well received the way he's doing some of this.
I get super annoyed at the social media trolling that
goes back and forth. And I know people like Gavin
Newsom don't always control their own social media accounts. It's
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a group of snarky, sarcastic twenty somethings.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
But if he didn't like it, he could say take
it down.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
But he could say take it down. It that that
kind of uh.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I guess I don't know what my expectation is when
it comes to political discourse these days, but that's an
annoyance to me, if you want to be the one
who believes that they have the moral authority, that they
have the moral and ethical high ground here, then act
like it and rise above the petty social media stuff. Yeah,
(14:24):
that doesn't do anything to me. I agree, But again
that's me. I bet there are people who are like well,
dyl Trump uses social media, so we got to fight
back on the same on the same battleground.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
No, you don't people love that, they love the snark,
they love the bitchiness on Twitter or what have you
to To me, it just comes across juvenile. And maybe
that's just because I'm an old. But where does that
get you, I guess to your point at further the conversation,
how does that make you the adult in the room
that people want to trust with their vote in the country.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Eddie Vale is another Democratic strateg justin He said that
this current posture that Gavin Newsom has could do well
in a Democratic primary if he in fact decides to
run for president. Spoiler alert, He's going to run for president.
But veil And asks the question is will this be
the version of Newsom who shows up or the one
who was hosting right wing podcasters a few weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Well, it's an interesting question that you ask, and I
bet there are a lot of paid consultants right now
mulling over that very question in conference rooms and zoom
calls in Palo Alto and DC and everywhere in between.
I think this is a real time where the Democrats
are figuring out whether they circle their wagons around Gavin
Newsom to go for this thing. And there's a lot
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of cost benefit analysis, isn't there. There's a lot of
good things about Gavin Newsom. There's a lot of bad
things about him that could just be torn apart in
any sort of primary and definitely the general. But it
comes down to Gavin Newsom and how is he going
to use this massive platform he's been provided so far?
Then this week may have been a time to make
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some hay. We'll see, maybe they're waiting and seeing. Maybe
it's all very choreographed and there will be moments to
meet that he will meet.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
But so far it's been underground podcast stuff all right.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Up next, the latest on that plane crash out of India.
The British sole survivor of that Air India crash. We'll
hear more from his story about what that was like.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM.
Six forty.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Two hundred Marines have now moved into La helping protect
federal property and personnel. The commander in charge, Major General
Scott Sherman, is commander of Task Force fifty one, said
that the Marines have finished training on civil disturbance. Said
these Marines are going to take over their operations at
noon local time today. Downtown LA. Marines will join some
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two thousand National Guard troops that have been on the
streets of the city since last week when immigration enforcement
actions set off some of those protests.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Coming up next to the number of carpool lane chets
in California skyrocketing. I have been flying fast and loose
with the carpool lane when I should not be.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I gotta be honest, and I have tinted windows. No, no,
you don't even have tinted windows. I am just I'm
a lawbreaker.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
You got that big old blonde bobblehead sticking out of
the driver's seat and you don't even have tinted windows.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
You are so complimentary sometimes I don't even know how
to handle it, Like it's so overwhelming that I'm just
beside myself with the feelings that you provide me.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
The sized blonde ish.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I think we just abort at this moment, but we'll.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Talk about it.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
The sole survivor of the Air India crash that killed
over two hundred and forty people does not know how
he made it alive. He's just like us lying in
the hospital bed this morning. Viswash Kumar Ramesh did his
best to explain. He told local Indian national broadcaster d
D News. I can't believe myself how I came out
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of it alive, because for a while I thought I
was going to die as well. But when I opened
my eyes, I saw that I was alive. So I
tried to open my seat belt and I was able
to get out. This was the London bound Boeing seven
eight seven Dreamliner crashed in northwestern India just right after takeoff.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Everyone else on board died.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
A lot of people on the ground and to the
medical college and the plane crash into died as well.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
He does have a wife, he has a child.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
He's forty. He lives in London.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
He was traveling back to London with his brother after
visiting family there.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Obviously, my brother died.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
He says after takeoff, after five to ten seconds, it
seemed like the aircraft was stuck. He said, green and
white lights came on inside the plane before it hit
the building. Now videos from the scene suggest the plane
was only in the air for about thirty seconds before
(19:21):
it descended and crashed in that blaze of fire. As
we told you yesterday, he was seated in eleven A,
that window seat in the first exit row of standard economy.
He said his part of the plane landed on the
ground floor of the hostel and that he noticed the
emergency door was broken by the impact. He says, when
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the door broke, I saw there was a bit of space,
so I tried to get out, and I was able
to get out. I just walked out. He didn't have
to jump out of the plane. He just walked out,
he said.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
There was an article in the Wall Street Journal about
asks the question, how is it that one person can
survive a crash that kills two hundred and forty some
odd to other people, Just the weird chance of the
kind of forces that exist in a crash of a
massive vehicle like that, And how that one tiny pocket
(20:20):
somehow spares that one guy and they actually refer to
another accident that had happened back in Detroit in nineteen
eighty seven, one hundred and fifty five people on board
of DC nine that crashed just after takeoff in Detroit
Northwest Airlines's flight two fifty five. The wreckage of this
thing was almost three quarters of a mile long. I mean,
(20:42):
the debris field three quarters of a mile. Two highway
overpasses were covered with all of this. Every single one
of the passenger seats was detached from the airframe and
scattered along the way. One hundred and fifty four people died.
One survivor was a four year old girl, role found
underneath one of those highway overpasses, and again she was
(21:05):
seated in eight f not that I mean that. I
don't know what the configuration of a DC nine, but
there's something about the random nature of a plane disintegrating
like that, and how while everyone else is killed by
blunt force trauma, there's something that happened in that one
tiny little pocket of space for that preschooler back in
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nineteen eighty seven, and for this guy yesterday.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I mean, she's what forty forty two now, you wonder
where is she now? And what was life like. I'm
surprised we haven't seen something like that. You know, we
get the We get the baby. Jessica updates every so often,
every ten years or so. John Hansman is a professor
of aeronautics and astronautics at MIT. He says that the
survival is a miracle, especially considering where he was sitting
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in the plane, toward the front of the aircraft. That
the prevailing wisdom has long been that the safest part
of the plane is the back. John Hansman's is typically
in an airplane accident, being in the back of the
airplane is better because you sort of had the front
of the airplane as a shock absorber to take some
of the impact loads. But in this case, which he
describes as a landing accident, the landing gear and the
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tail were likely. The first part of the plane to
hit the ground. Was the landing gear down though, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
It was down. They had never retracted the.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Land okay, so he says, because the tail hit first,
it would have then caused the whole fuselage to rotate
forward and slam into the ground, and that would cause
breaking of the fuselage. If he said, he went through
a break. That was what caused that break. It was
that opening and this guy's quick thinking that let him
(22:44):
get out of the plane far enough away before he
could get severely burned. He says, in some cases you
can actually survive, and people do survive the impact damage,
but it's the fire that ends up getting you.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Weird.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
He, by the way, says, there's no unsafest seat on
the plane.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Obviously, it varies wildly based on the model, the type
of crash, all of the things.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I have found. The survivor of that Northwest Airlines flight.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Oh, time Moore, there's an article that just came out,
oh about two hours.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Ago, but let's do that when we come back, talk
about it. Definitely.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Israel launched a massive attack on the heart of Iran's
nuclear and military structure overnight. They deployed warplanes and drones,
even those that were smuggled into Iran, to target key
facilities and kill some of the top generals and scientists.
Multiple sites around Iran were hit early today, including Iran's
main nuclear enrichment facility. In Iranian news outlet close to
(23:48):
the government reported that a couple of explosions were also
here heard near the four toh Nuclear Enrichment site, which
is one of those very deep underground sites and response.
The United States has been shit lifting some military resources
in the Middle East to Israel's strikes and Iran possible
retaliatory attack is expected by Tehran, so the Navy has
(24:09):
directed the destroyer USS Thomas Hudner to begin sailing from
the Western med toward the Eastern Mediterranean, has directed a
second destroyer to begin moving forward so it could be
available if necessary.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Talking about this Boeing seven eight seven Dreamliner crash yesterday
India to Britain, where there is one survivor out of
at least more than two hundred and forty people were
killed in that crash, and late in the show yesterday
we made a mention of how there was another flight
disaster that's being talked about in connection with what happened
in India, some parallels there. It was Northwest Airlines Flight
(24:44):
two fifty five in August sixteenth, nineteen eighty seven, and
it was shortly after eight forty five pm that the
Northwest flight left Detroit bound for Phoenix Sky Harbor.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
And just like in India.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
This jet in nineteen eighty seven failed to achieve lift
and slammed into the ground shortly after takeoff. And just
like this Air India flight, there was one sole.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Survivor in this case, it was a four year old
four year old Cecilia c Chin of Tempe found among
the wreckage.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
And like I said, it was a three thousand foot
long debris field. It was massive.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
And when they found this little girl underneath one of
the overpasses where the plane crash took place, they originally
thought she was probably from one of the vehicles that
was on the roadway. There's no way that a kid
would be able to survive a plane crash like this.
She was identified the next day because of the purple
fingernail polish and her name that she knew. Of course,
(25:44):
she's four, matched the mother, her father, and her older
brother that died in the plane crash. She immediately was
taken in by an aunt and uncle. They raised her
very carefully. It was probably the right way to put
it away from the spotlight. They did not allow her
to speak to the media until twenty six years later.
(26:05):
CNN did a documentary a few years ago called Soul
survivor where they interviewed Cecilia and some other people about
what it's like to be the sole survivor in a
situation like that. So at the time, I mean, she's
thirty years old. She's a full grown adult by this point,
married a degree in psychology from the University of Alabama.
(26:26):
She says in twenty thirteen, she said, I've never been happier.
I think about the accident every day. It's hard not
to think about it when I look in the mirror,
my arms and my legs. I even have a scar
on my forehead. She also has a tattoo of an
airplane on her wrists, right.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
On her left wrist, right there. And there is apparently
a Facebook group with more than five hundred members the
families of the victims that stay in contact with one
another to this day. They share photos of the people
they lost in that Crashroom nineteen eighty seven organized memorial
services on the anniversary of the tragedy. They do these
(27:06):
memorial services quite regularly, especially at the specific time.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
They will gather along I ninety four.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
There the names of the victims, so we'll be right
at eight forty six, the time of the flight's.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Crash, So that crash was nineteen eighty seven. Just a
couple of years before that, there was a crash in
Reno Galaxy Airlines flight two oh three.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
It was the middle of the night.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
It was a bunch of football fans that were on
a charter flight from Minneapolis to Reno. Of the seventy
one passengers and crew on board that flight bound for Minneapolis,
only one survived, a seventeen year old kid is named
George Lamson Junior. A minute after takeoff from Reno, the
pilot notified the tower of a severe vibration wanted an
(27:57):
immediate return, but the plane went down just a few
seconds lateater this guy, This seventeen year old kid, George
Lampson Junior, still strapped in his seat, was launched through
the fireball that erupted when the plane crashed and landed
on South Virginia Street in Reno.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
His dad actually survived the crash initially, but died at
the hospital days later.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
George Lampson was knocked out but did not suffer serious
enough injuries that he was released from the hospital about
a week later, went back to Minnesota, accompanied by his mom.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Obviously to bury dad, so.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
With Cecilia, she was four.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
You kind of grow up with the knowledge, right, it
doesn't I don't want to say it's easier, but it's
probably easier. You grow up with the knowledge that happened.
You probably have a very limited memory. Just to say
it almost would probably not feel real. Yeah, even if
it was explained to you later in life.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
He's seventeen. Lambson is George Lambson.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
He says or he did an interview about ten years ago.
Says he thinks about it every day. She said the
same thing. By the way, she says she thinks about
it every day even though she was four. That's just
part of who she is.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
How could she not?
Speaker 4 (29:08):
And he says, I try not to think about it,
but it's just part of who I am.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
What happened to me.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I try to take this memory as one that I'm
grateful being here, as to asking why did this happen
to me?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Very very weird.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
George says he had a great experience in the hot
I mean, it's so weird. You just survived a plane crash,
had a great experience in the hospital in Reno, and
is still in contact with people that helped take care
of him.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
From that crash from nineteen eighty five. Incredible.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
But this guy, you know, he's forty. His brother dies
in this crash yesterday. I think forty is probably a
good age of what does this all mean? What do
I have to do with my life that I haven't done,
or what the purpose is and all of that.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Well, you're a kid, You're still kind, You're still kind
of rat and all around in there.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
And be one thing, if you are traveling solo, like
you're on a business trip somewhere and you end up
being the sole survivor of a crash, you don't lose
your family members. But for Cecilia, she lost her older
brother and her two parents, so she's got.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
To deal with that.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
George loses his dad, his dad, yeah, in the plane
crackh And it's I don't know how that changes. It
adds a different layer to it. But if you were
a sole survivor and you lost your family, right, be
different than if you were the sole survivor and got
to go home to your face.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
That's true, That is true.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I mean he still this guy from yesterday, it's his
brother obviously probably the closest person to him in his life,
but he has got a wife and a kid.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Little girl like he gets to go home too. Wow.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
All right, when we come back, what the hell is
going on in Iran?
Speaker 4 (30:49):
We'll have the latest.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
They're also big parade tomorrow, big air show, big tank show.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
We'll get into that as well.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Remember the last time, as we've learned Ty one, there
was a victory parayed for desert storm and it went
on without any sort of controversy, and it were sort
of ruckus or ruckus.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Worried about it.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Now, I mean we were celebrating at the time. I
guess we're celebrating too, the two hundred and fifty years
of the army. All right, Gary and Shannon will continue
right after this. You've been listening to The Gary and
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