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December 10, 2025 32 mins

Gary & Shannon open the hour with breaking news that the iHeart Holiday Party is happening during their show yet again, meaning they’ll miss the festivities while corporate karaoke carries on without them. They go through the official karaoke list with Board Wizard Elmer, hype their dream duet of “Islands in the Stream,” and then dive into a fresh #SwampWatch covering the Fed’s half-point rate cut, Trump’s latest rally in Pennsylvania, and a judge granting the release of the long-awaited Epstein files.
The newly christened “Fonzy and Sprinkles” elves make their official debut as part of the GaS Holiday Family, and listeners are urged to follow their daily mischief on Instagram @GaryandShannon. 
Gary and Shannon also swap horror stories about timeshares — from Gary being pitched by his late father’s old company to Shannon enduring a pressure-cooker sales presentation she couldn’t escape fast enough.
The hour closes with another edition of #Parenting with Justin Worsham, who tries to run a serious segment while Shannon accidentally steamrolls him with comedy. They unpack how parents should handle the birds-and-bees talk in the age of AI and online content, and Justin reflects on his own early heartbreak and proof that one awkward conversation is never enough when it comes to preparing kids for real life.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Today was the day that we
welcomed Phonsie and Sprinkles into our lives.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yep, our elves, our elves.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
How do people find the elves?

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Well, go to Gary and Shannon at Instagram is where
you can start looking at their story. Oh, your son
liked our photo of our elves.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I don't know if he actually witnessed the carnage that
took place on our kitchen island last night when my
wife tore a part of Barbie Doll to put the
pieces back together and make an elf that look like you.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
I see. We also posted the picture of me trying
to be an elf and hide in a shelf.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
You you came close to fitting.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
In that drawer. That was sweet of you.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
I didn't well most of I mean, you probably could
have gotten in there. We would have kicked the door
shut if we had to. I have I have break,
I have breaking. This is funny. We're not going to
the holiday party.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Once again, the corporation has planned a party right smack
in the middle of our show to protect against us
going to the party. I am fun activities, delicious food,
open bar, that's a raffle prizes, and you can sign
up for the staff holiday party karaoke using the Excel

(01:34):
spreadsheet that is linked below.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Stop it, are you freaking serious? There's an Excel spreadsheet
in the holiday party. I get it, Yet there's nothing
that's a joke. That's got to be a joke. That's
a funny joke.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
I love karaoke spreadsheet right there?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
You know what, this is not cool because Elmer loves
karaoke and we're not invited. They schedule this stuff during
our show because we're awful people that they don't want
at their party again. But Elmer is a wonderful person
that everyone wanted their party and he loves karaoke.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Right, what's your go to? Elmer?

Speaker 5 (02:09):
I usually do the Hamilton song like We'll be back okay,
or I do a panic at the disco I write
since not tragedies, I'd I go emo, or I go.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
What would be your go to? For the corporate Christmas party? Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Okay, okay, because like my bosses are around, right, and
doesn't have to be Christmas. We're just trying to.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
But I show you all kind of like the idea
for you in like a Santa hat, doing something Christmas
y for the company.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Like Santa Baby, because we have somebody do that didn't
Yes we did.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yes we did.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
I can pull it off. It's time for swamp watch.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
A which means I'm a cheat and a liar.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
And when I'm not kissing, I'm stealing.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Here we got the real problem is that our leaders
are done. The other side never quits.

Speaker 6 (03:06):
So what I'm not going anywhere so.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
That you train the squat, I can imagine what can
be and be unburdened by what has been. You know,
Americans have always been going at president, but they're not stupid.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the
truth that people voted for you were not satch.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
So today Philip Rivers is get a practice with the
Indianapolis Colts to see if this is really going to happen.
A forty four year old coming out of retirement to
holme a team fighting to get in the playoffs. Philip
Rivers looks like he's the size of a house. I
mean that is wow. He looks much bigger. I mean
he's a big guy, but he he is bigger. His

(03:49):
face is bigger.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
He's a grandpa.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
He's a high school for before I didn't have any
high school football coaches that were skinny.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
No, I know. I'm just saying he's a lot bigger
than he was in his playing days.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Hey, good news. What the Fed cut interest rates?

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Say it slower?

Speaker 3 (04:10):
The Fed cut interest raise.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
You are not Deborah marg You do not have it.
It went down a quarter of a point not much.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
It wasn't much, but it was a quarter point third
third interest rate reduction that we have seen from the Fed.
This one was not a surprise. Everybody expected that quarter
percent drop.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Maybe if you played a little sexy time music behind
it came out fed. Wow, she's so lucky.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Oh really, Yesterday the President talked about talked about the
economy in the poconosy.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Is that right?

Speaker 6 (04:54):
The pokes prices, they gave you the highest inflation in history,
and we're giving you we're bringing those prices down rapidly,
lower prices, bigger paychecks. I have no higher priority than
making America affordable again.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
That's what we're going to do.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
This reminds me of the guys who would do the
speeches at lunchtime to run for class president. And they're like,
we're going to have all the doritos for free in
the vending machines.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
We're going to have all of that.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
It's going to be recesses extended from thirty minutes to
an hour.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
And a half. And we're you know, the campaign promises.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Susie Wilde said she wanted more campaign Trump, and that's
what you got last night. And what do you do
when you're on campaign you promise the world. Will he
be able to bring down grocery prices? Probably not? Does
he get all the blame for that? No, that's not
fair to give him all the blame for what you're
seeing at the grocery stores because we've been seeing these
ever since the pandemic, right, I mean, we've been seeing

(05:52):
this crap for six years now. So I don't know
if it's a mixture of kind of like the oil
companies when they see the price of oil go up,
and then the gas companies like, ah, we'll just raise
the prices and blame it on the you know, if
we're seeing that with with the grocery company saying, oh well,
shrinkflation and all these things, and we'll just raise the
price and give them less product, and they're already expecting it.

(06:14):
The already know that that's what's going to come. Like,
do we need to get harder on the company? Where
is the problem? What I want to hear is less
platitudes and more drilling down on why is everything so
expensive at the grocery store?

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Because we were told bird.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Flu every other year for the past eight years. We've
been sold all of these different reasons for why eggs
are up one hundred and forty percent since two thousand
and nine or what have you. But like nobody is
drilling down on that. You know, why is the cereal
the size is twice the size smaller than it used

(06:52):
to be for you know, thirty percent more.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Why is that there's no cereal flu?

Speaker 1 (06:57):
You know, like I need someone to explain to me
who's screwing me over?

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Well, I think you have patience for it that other
people don't have patience for it, waiting for the explanation
they would rather the simple answer is, well.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
We don't have a choice.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
We have to go to the grocery store and buy
the food, right, And that's what I mean. People are
they're just sucking it up. They're buying less, they're spending
less money, they're getting less for their.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Area, and nobody's asking questions of the people that are
regulating prices in the industry.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Not enough people.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
I mean, it's insane. And then you go out to eat,
which is you just can't do it anymore. You know,
you can't go to the McDonald's and get chicken, fingers
and fries for under fifteen dollars.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
That's insane.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
President Trump also held a call with French President of
Manuel Macrone, British Prime Minister kir starmer German Chancellor Frederick
Mertz this morning talk about the war in Ukraine. I'm
not sure if he talked about If you remember yesterday
we played for you the audio from that Politico interview
where he said the leaders in Europe have been weak
when it comes to stopping the war in Ukraine. It's

(08:01):
looking all but certain that the Affordable Care Act subsidies
will expire at the end of this month. Lawmakers and
Congress have come up, they said, with several different solutions.
I think Mike Johnson in fact brief Republicans with ten
different options. But we will see exactly what happens over
the next couple of weeks when it comes to all

(08:22):
of that. Oh and then a quick note, a judge
granted the Justice Department's latest request to unseal records of
a federal grand jury investigation similar to what we saw
yesterday with the Gleain Maxwell grand jury. Now they're talking
about this would have been the Jeffrey Epstein grand jury.
All of this as a part of that law that

(08:42):
requires the Department of Justice to release its Epstein files
by next Friday.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
I kind of have an idea for this holiday party situation.
It's going to be tomorrow at this time. I think
we send Elmer in for a couple of reasons. Number One,
he can do karaoke and wait, do we have Jesse tomorrow?
We have it?

Speaker 2 (09:00):
We don't know? Oh really, snobs plan does? It kind
of changes the plan.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
If we had a tag team on the board, we
could have sent Elmer in so he could sing karaoke.
And then what I wanted to have him do was
just nonsense, chalantly talk to people and in conversation bring
up like.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Hey, Gary and Shannon, do you.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Guys where they are they here?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Take this party?

Speaker 6 (09:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Just slide that into various conversations because
Elmer talked to anyone. He go up AND's like he
sucks about this party, Like it's so cool. But like
Gary and Shanner are on the air right now, Like
how much have you guys.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Ever seen Gary and Shannon do Islands in the Stream.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Oh, it's really good. It's really great.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
It is really good. You guys, we kill it. Nobody
does Islands in the Stream. Like these two Sprinkles and
Phonsie have that market core nerd.

Speaker 6 (09:50):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KF
I am six forty.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Uh fun. The Sprinkles are the names of our elves
on the shelves. Follow the plan is for the next
couple of weeks, Good Lord to h follow the high
jinks of Pansie and Sprinkles over the next couple of

(10:20):
weeks they make their way around the radios.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Also, let's not just shut the door after Islands in
the Stream has been placed on the table, because we
also do a five star rendition of Leather and Lace.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
I'd have to brush up on that. What do you mean, well,
I don't remember. Do you remember that time we did
do the two?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Next on Henley.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
We split up Jesus Walks by Kanye West. We've done
that before too. I've never heard appropriate no Jesus Walks.
I've never sang Jesus Walks. Yeah we did it together.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
No, okay, I have.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Never sang a song called Jesus Walks. Why would you
even have me do that? That sounds like wereaut Kanye West?

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Oh my gosh, what.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Is wrong with the people? I know you've heard the song.
Never mind, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Okay, So wait, when did we do this? Oh?

Speaker 3 (11:15):
It's ways ago?

Speaker 1 (11:16):
On the air?

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Oh, Cleveland, Philadelphia, one of those I don't know we
were on the air.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
We were in private.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Probably don't say that.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
I mean, were we on the air at time? Yeah, yeah,
never mind, and we did a duet in front of people.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
I'm not going to say anymore.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
No, I this sounds like a fun time. I'm telling
you it was a fun time. Listen my snatch and
next these I don't know this song? Yes you do?
How am I the only one that knows this song?
Of all the people in this room? I know the song?

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Thank you, Elmer Jesse, we know the song?

Speaker 2 (11:52):
How old are you? Time Shares are making a comeback.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Laughter was too loud.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Way to having loud.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Okay, quick story, this is good for everyone. Gather around
for this one. So Heather Brookers on our show on Friday,
Gary is out and we're talking about holiday movies, and
she tells me about this movie with Michelle Slipher. I
forget the name. It's oh, yoh, I don't know. It's
some it's some Christmas movie. It's on Amazon Prime, and

(12:28):
so we watch it over the weekend and and like
Heather said, Michelle Fifer, she's so beautiful. And I even
said to my husband at one point it's it's almost
distracting how pretty she is. And I am the whole
time I'm thinking how old is she? How old is
Michelle Pfiffer, and how old is Dennis Leary. Anyway, I
google it and I find out she's sixty seven. I'm like, wow,

(12:49):
she looks incredible. So then I tell I text Heather yesterday.
I go, hey, I watched that Michelle Peiffer movie was awful.
And then I said, but she you're right, she is
really pretty. And Heather writes back, yeah, she looks so great.
I hope I look like that when I'm in my
seventies and I write back to her she's sixty seven
dot dot dot my age.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Ha ha ha ha, but you didn't write to aha
and no, and so Heather is like, that's not your age,
is it.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Heather says, I had to google you, Like Heather legitimately
thought there was a chance. I'm sixty seven years old,
which is fine, like sixty seven's fine, but like, is.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
There a chance?

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Oh no, no, no, that would be Elmer gets the
smartest man in the room award for.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Jumping in the quickest.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
He was also the one laughing loud.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
He was laughing the loudest.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Did you guys never have a time share in your family?
Ever have a timeshare?

Speaker 2 (13:49):
My parents did? Where was it? I don't know. I
didn't ask questions.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Oh did they just leave you like once a week
or no?

Speaker 2 (13:56):
No, they had one in recent years.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Oh okay, yeah, my parents had one in Tahoe for
a long time. And it was one of those that
was not really a great timeshare from what I remember,
it was a one bedroom time I've never heard a.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Great story about a timeshare that worked out and was
worth it and it came with no complications and all
of that.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
I've never heard a great story.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Usually the timeshare stories that I hear it's either can't
get in, or it's too much money, or the dates
are blacked out and you can't get.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Out of it.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah, that's it. It never worked out. When we were kids,
we were at the mercy of our parents' schedule, right,
and we would go when we could go, and sometimes
we would go at spring break, et cetera. And again,
it wasn't the greatest timeshare. It was a dinky little place.
I have memories there. It's not like it was negative
or anything. But as we got older, it just got

(14:48):
harder and harder to coordinate schedules to go and to
be there as a family. So my parents would use
it all the time. As they got sick, and they
started kind of talking about what are you going to
do with stuff? What are you gonna do with the house,
what are you can do with the timeshare? And my
sisters and I, we don't want anything to do with
that timeshare. I mean, it's just a hassle. There's no
way we're going to be able to use it and
get anything out of it, right, So they were concerned, well,

(15:11):
maybe they would sell it off to a different family member. No, no,
we're just when the lord calls you home, the timeshare
goes with you like that. We are not going to
deal with it. It is just if you used it
as much memories. That's exactly. Well what happens is legally,
the way we understood it and the way it turned

(15:32):
out was the contract dies with the contract holder basically,
and since they're the ones, it was their name. It
wasn't like in the trust, it wasn't. It was their
names on it. So once they pass, the contract is dead.
They kept calling us and they would send us letters
the timeshare company be like, hey, your weak is coming up. No, no, no,
here's the deal. It's all gone. Thanks, free time, great memories.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
They're gone.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
So therefore whatever contract you think still exists is clearly
dead at this point.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Literally, and it kept trying. They kept trying. Oh but
you know, we're so sorry for your loss.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Maybe you and your family want to keep.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
It in the field.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
If that's the thing that turns me off, Yeah, it's
the time share, whether it's whether it's here, whether it's domestic.
You know, you have a time share in cancuon or
you have a time share and cosmmel or or Baja,
whatever it is. There's always that push. It's always a sale. Yeah,
it's always such a asshole.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Me and my girlfriend went to Vegas one time, Katie,
and we got a free room because we sat through
the Timeshare pitch. Right, sure, that is the most frustrated slash,
anxious slash, all of the things get me the f
out of here. I've ever felt that strongly, Like the

(16:49):
whole pitch, and then the person they bring in after
the pitch, and then if that doesn't work, they got
another guy to come in, and then all of the
show they put on and it's so transparent and it's
just so gross to me.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
You have to f Then they turn you into the
bad guy because you're the one who's like, I don't
want to have anything to.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
Do with this.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yeah, oh the manipulations, and I mean those people they
should work at freaking Guantanamo Bay.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Meanwhile, you're, you know, feigning some sort of diarrhea episode
in order to try to get out of there, to
try to disc.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
I didn't think about diarrhea.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
I wish I had a strong option when you're dealing
with time, I wish I had There is a story
that suggests that time shares have been my age and
that time shares are coming back to some degree. But
I think it's because there's a generation that has skipped
where people don't quite understand that.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
They don't remember and it sounds good and they're just
waiting for it. Sure, they're waiting for it. It's like
a bad fashion trend coming back. You don't remember low
rise genes, you know what I mean. You weren't around
the first time, So you're buying those right now.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
You can see my tattoos if I wear them too long.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, but you still have that belly button ring in
the chain that you got the first time around.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Where does the chain go to?

Speaker 2 (18:07):
It just goes around, oh, around my back? Like you
don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Parent, Take justin when we come back.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
God, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
I think I fill off the Christmas card list now.
I just go to the Tropics when they retire for Christmas.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Fed Reserve did lower interest rates today third time this year.
Traders expect a relatively small We're expecting that small quarter
percent cut. That's exactly what they got.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Do I have your address for a Christmas.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
President Trump has reportedly told Ukrainian President Lensky that he
still has until Christmas to accept his deal to end
the war with Russia. Jared Kushner Steve Whitkoff delivered that
warning in a two hour long phone call with Zelenski
after they had meetings in Moscow.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
I was so jealous of her? Can I just be honest, Like,
I'm just so jealous of her? Like it seems I
don't know, maybe this, maybe I'm being unfair, you know
what I mean. Maybe she spent like hours in the
gym cultivating these comedic skills the gym, but like but
I just not that gym, but you know what I mean,
like the comedic gym. The arena, yes, sure, yes, the
arena of comedy that she because she's heard something so

(19:21):
clearly doing a show. She looks at me with zero
like like no joking whatsoever, just like we're just I'm
gonna say it this way because it seems to be
the tone of the moment is that like we're the
old couple at a play who's talking full voice, not
understanding that everybody can hear.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, she goes, are you do you are you in
my list.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Justin Warsham joins u sweet the world of parenting out.
This topic is always a great topic. The sex talk.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Not during the holidays.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
You don't have the sex talk with the kids are
in the holidays because then you're just gonna scar.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Them, and you're gonna scar Christmas forever you start geo
fencing sex talk, you're never gonna get to it.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Really true, got be ready for ours, pounced on us.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
I don't know how it went for you, but the
first one was like it just we were just having
dinner randomly, and the younger one, who was I think
five or six at the time, did like out of
a movie, was like, so, where do babies come from?
And my wife and I had like a full dialogue
of just looking, ay, like making eye contacted with each other,
maybe moving eyebrows to some parental version of Morse code,
and then we go and we both nodded at the

(20:22):
same time, and we go here we go, and we.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Had the talk.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Had you discussed had you and your wife discussed it
before that?

Speaker 2 (20:28):
I mean, not where babies come from?

Speaker 1 (20:29):
I know you know that, but we were the first
coincidental If your kids are five and seven, is it
just when two people love each other, they get together
and they decide they want to have a baby in a.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Very special kiss, in a very special way. Listen, I'm
sure that maybe that's how it works through most households.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
How did you do it, Gerry?

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Oh, I want to wait for the finish.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
First, was a special kiss? I'll set the bar low.

Speaker 6 (20:50):
No, it was not.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
It was There was no mention of a special kiss.

Speaker 6 (20:53):
It was like.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Everything, like we talked about penis at the kitchen or.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to It almost always happens
at the dinner table, like that's when you have family SI.
Really yeah, it's a special time you catch up on
the day and the way it honestly works. I'll try
to abbreviate this as much as I can for time.
But that my younger son was like, I want to know,
and then I said, okay, well tell us first what
you know already, and just asking him that question, yeah okay,
and it made him uncomfortable and he's like, never mind,

(21:17):
I don't want to talk about it. And then I
was like, well, now we're in a weird pickle because
I want to respect that and I want to respect
the I didn't use the word boundaries because I'm not
that bad, but I was just like, I want to
respect the facts that you don't want to. But at
the same time, this is an important thing, and I
don't want it to be taboo. It shouldn't be taboo,
it shouldn't be shameful, like and your mom and I
need to be the people that you come to talk
to about this, because your friends aren't going to have

(21:38):
the information that.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
You should have interesting and so we just just look
it up on the internet and then yes.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
And then it was at that point that my nine
year old said, he goes, well, I want to know.
I said, well, let me get your brother comfortable.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Maybe, Carrie, did your parents ever talk to you about sex?

Speaker 5 (21:55):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Not in that not as content neither. There was never
a conversation of what happened out of babies.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
I think it was.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
The first time we ever even broached the subject was
probably when I was a freshman in college or sophomore.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, yeah, like that. Oh yeah, yeah, then I did
this all wrong.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
My favorite part is I told him how it all happens,
like the quote unquote science and act of it all
my mom.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Taught sex, said at my school, but it was a
Catholic school, and it was all anatomical stuff. It was
all biology. What happens to a girl when she's thirteen
or fourteen? You know all of that stuff. It was
never I didn't know anything about that. Yeah, nothing, How
did you guys figure it out?

Speaker 5 (22:36):
Then?

Speaker 3 (22:36):
It's pretty natural, kind of comes pretty easy.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
You don't actually need to have that dinner table talk
over the meat loaf. South Park.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Well scary in my context, it was my mom.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, imagine being a girl.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
But my mom was I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
For everything I've ever done to every woman and girl ever.
Now this moment I regret it.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
I have to go make amends. I have to leave
right now.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
But we had this moment.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
I did not know or think of it, and I'm
being sincere. I'm being since here. I have to go.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
I gotta come through some Facebook or some people that
I got to undock just so I could get in
touch with. And I have only slept with four other
people besides my wife, that's all. There are four women
that I now have to find who probably have families
of their own, and I have to apologize to them. No,
I didn't know un till now. But I'm probably just
gonna start with sorry, here's the craziness, fake trauma, the

(23:36):
girl I lost my virginity to. This is just to
add to the how much you guys like to make
fun of me about how feminine I am. Like the
day after we had sex for the first time both
of us, I said, I go, are you okay, like
you know?

Speaker 2 (23:48):
And she was like yeah yeah, And I go, well,
I just like it was it bad because I knew
it hurt for a girl uncomfortable? Yeah yeah, And so
I was I wanted her.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
I said, well, I want to know. I want to know,
like I want to be able to understand what it
felt like for you so that I could understand it.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
And we'll get that answer coming up after the great.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Gary Shannon will continue.

Speaker 6 (24:09):
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Speaker 3 (24:16):
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Speaker 2 (24:52):
Oh Digrets. Yeah, I have now learned.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
If anybody likes to tune in at this segment and
the show specifically, I want you to know that I
have a new toolbox. Evidently, all I have do is
talk about my sex life to make Shannon feel uncomfortable so.

Speaker 6 (25:06):
That she is not.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Just so we're clear, you have found a multitool right.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
It has been six minutes so she has even looked
in my general direction.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Gary and I were talking, answering her questions I might
ask sure, and she.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Chose to put the headphones on to listen to the
commercials rather than what was being said.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
I ask all the questions.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
What did I ask all the questions?

Speaker 2 (25:29):
You asked enough?

Speaker 3 (25:30):
But to pick up the story from where we left off, Yes,
you had you had better at a young gal. Yes,
and you because your heart is bigger than the rest
of you.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
You were an actor already asking for feedback from her.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Yeah, after your first clap during the performance.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
So what did she say?

Speaker 4 (25:50):
She I said, I go, you know, I've I've learned
that it was painful or uncomfortable, however you want to
describe it for a young lady. And so I wanted
to make sure that I understood it, because as a
dumb young teenager myself, I was like, I'm sure this
is going to happen again.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Weird enough, it did not. She broke up with me
shortly after that.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
So it was just like crying pretty strong feedback, purty,
definitive at that point. I don't ever want to.

Speaker 6 (26:17):
Know that again.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
You like, how many days after the sex after the sex.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
It was about a week and a half. Yeah, well
there was a whole thing. There was like she had
this other guy that she liked, and he liked her too,
but he didn't want to be her first. So there
was like this like we were in the same group
of friends. I was the mercy f but I was
head over heels in love.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
With this young lady. So did she hook up with
him after you immediately? Basically like after we broke up?
What the scuttle butt was? And my heart is breaking
for you right now, I'm okay, I came out on
top of it. That sucks. It did, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
A part of you thought that she would have this
experience with you and change her mind about the other guy,
that there be a connection.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
No, I didn't know about the other guy. And I
mean I was aware until I came into the picture
and that I had thought that I had won, and
then then it was so quick after.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
And here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
I've had this conversation with my older son because unfortunately
he bears the burden of his father's heart. Thankfully, he's
a lot more self confident than I was at that age.
But we've had conversations about this where I was obsessing
over this and I scared a lot of girlfriends off, trying.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Not to be shocked with my I was always like that.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
I was trying to find a wife in high school.
I wanted the relationship to be very real, and that
was my focus. I wasn't just about rounding bases sexually.
That was never my objective, and that was weird. I
think for a lot of girls that I dated in
high school, and I think, honestly.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
I think she was one of them. Like I remember her.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
I said, well, I just kept pushing on her to
tell me what it felt like, and she was wearing
like torn jeans, and she was like, well, I guess
it's like kind of like if you have a small
tear in your jeans and you're just kind of making
it lighter.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yeah, my god, So how do you even come Okay?
But now your boys are old.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Most of the reason why I said that is because
Shannon had made eye contact with me just ante ago,
and I wanted to I'm really testing this work and
it works locked in on you.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Now you are her safe space space. Look, talk to
me about the things you've talked to me about. How
do you even bring this up with your with your boys?

Speaker 4 (28:22):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (28:23):
We've said before when we've talked about this, it's got
to be an ongoing conversation the new So we've.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Talked about even this subject on the segment over the
years i've been doing it. And then the beginning it
was like they really they start asking rudimentary questions, like
basic questions when they're five, and then you so you
give the information developmentally, and then it became what's uh
like probably in the last I'm going to say, ten
to twelve years, it became well, now you have to
talk about LGBTQ, like and and homosexual sex and and

(28:50):
then and then towards the end of that, consent became
a big part of the conversation.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Right is that's an ongoing conversation, and that's what this
is talking about. This is talking about now one talk
is not enough.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
There has to be multiple talks, and there has to
be a rolling out of plan of like what you're
going to say. And AI and pornography online is a
big thing of it. But this article is mainly talking
about AI that you can make like deep fakes and
so people like I could take a picture of saying
my girlfriend, if I was to obviously go back in time, right,
I could take a picture of my girlfriend and then

(29:22):
have AI create some kind of pornographic image of that person.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
The technology exists out there.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
It's amazing that it seems like your kids come to you.
I mean, this is something really that's very cool that
they come to you with these questions that they have
for years now instead of going to the internet or
to their friends, like they value your opinion, they trust
your opinion.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
That's that's a really big f and deal.

Speaker 6 (29:48):
I think so.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
I'm very as my kids like my even my older
son and my younger son is agreed. He thinks it's
funny and cute. How excited I get whenever they have
a girlfriend or something like.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
I love the idea of them.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
I do.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
I'm not. I know it sounds stupid and cuche. I
love the concept.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
I like the idea of these of watching my sons
figure this out and learn and I and I am
very very proud of that. They are very kind and
they're they're gentlemen, like I really think that they they like,
they're nice to the girls, and they treat them with
kindness and respect, which is all that I wanted. And
I like that they're you know, stumbling through this.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
I think it's adorable. I think it's fun. I find
it heartwarming. These are all things that I feel when
they're in a relationship.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Can you imagine justin at Jacob's wedding.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
Oh, I've already this is the new bit in my household.
As I joke with them, I said, Jacob, you're older,
I said, but Jack, your time is coming. We got
to get on the grand baby train. Like I need
to be a grandfather. And it makes Natalie almost as
uncomfortable as Shannon as is when I talk about my side,
almost like right up there.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
She goes, oh.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
And then Jacob always says, why do you fall for
it every time? Like you know, he's you've been with
this guy thirty years and every time you fall for it,
Like it's.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Real, mom, Even even jokes are old to us.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
But I said, like, you know, I've approved the girl
that he's kind of like talking to. I said, yeah,
she's marriage material, Like you should definitely go after that,
And it makes Natalie.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
So one of my girlfriends went to homecoming with a
guy from another high school. They went and had a
great time at homecoming, and at the end of the
night he said to her and she I was a
sophomore at the time, she was a junior, And he
said to her at the time, had a great time,
but you're not the girl I'm gonna marry, So I
think we shouldn't see each other again.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
And I thought that was crazy. I mean, I was like,
you know, how.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Could he not want to just sit around have a
good time.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
It wouldn't even it didn't even occur to me.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
That anyone would be looking for a wife at sixteen
or seventeen.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Yeah, I can tell you my son. I don't know
yet the younger one, but the older one for sure.
Like he dated a girl that he but he broke
up with her because he's like, she is perfect on paper,
like everything. If you're like making a quote unquote stat
sheet of a girlfriend, she is absolute perfection. But he's like,
I just there's not the thing that's there. Doesn't it
something's not doesn't feel right. And so he's like, I

(32:03):
don't want this. I don't want to see where this goes,
because that's not fair to you or to me. And
so he's like, I think we're just gonna be friends.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
And you've seen all the rom coms where the people
that are perfect on paper are never perfect perfect for you.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
It's always the adding planner. I. Well, we haven't gotten
there yet. I need to start.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
That's a good point. I need to get him on
like a nineties Matthew McConaughey train. Now is the best
time of a year, A good point. Hallmark movies are
like made for that. Yeah, and they're under the guys.
Oh this is great, guys. I'm gonna have grandkids in
next week.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Report back next week. Definitely justin Worsham. Thank you for everything.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
I got to pick up colors. They're still in high school.
Great work high school.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show. You
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