October 23, 2025 • 27 mins
Shannon joins the show live from SoFi Stadium ahead of Thursday Night Chargers Football, as Gary breaks down the wild FBI bust of an NBA gambling ring: complete with mafia ties, poker games, and insider prop bets. Plus, Shannon gets suspicious of Gary’s sudden streak of kindness, the crew weighs in on her “SoFi setup,” and we learn how changing your mindset can literally rewrite your memories in today’s #GaSTherapy.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
A M six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. Do you have a pair
of lucky underwear?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Lucky underwe like that that I wear in an attempt
to get lucky.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I happen to be wearing them when good things happen.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yeah, Like superstitious underwear, like it's gonna be a good day.
I'm wearing these underwear like I need this to happen,
gonna wear these underwear kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Interesting. No, I wouldn't say so. I would say I
have different styles.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Different styles.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I'll choose a.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Different style depending on the activities planned for the rest
of the day.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Do you have a pair of boxers or boxer briefs
that have airplanes on them that you wear when you're flying, Like,
is that kind of how you look at your underwear?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
No, I'm just giving a hypothetical.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
No, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Do you have a pair of boxers that have bunnies
on them, so when you're going for a walk with
your wife you wear the bunny boxers?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
No, I don't know, nature, I don't have any of
that have any drawings on them. I have one pair
of boxer briefs that has uh graffiti.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Oh you have no character, you have no little drawings
on them.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
They're designs, but it's not like a recognizable creature or with.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Hearts on them. No, no, nothing with like clouds, like
fluffy clouds.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
As close as I get is a plaid pair of
boxers that look like they're pumpkin spice colors.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Okay, that's it.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
That's kind of spicy. That's fun from the fall line
at all the box.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I don't know how outside the box it is.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well, I have a great story about a lucky pair
of underwear involving the Dodgers that I just read about,
and wey we'll do the story coming up later, maybe
next hour or something like that.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
It's a great it's a wonderful story. You're gonna love it.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I think it was Aubrey Huff. It was the first
basement for the Giants. So you used to wear a
red thong, yes did. He was a He was quite
a character.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
But you're live today.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
It's so far ass too.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Listen. We don't like to brag, but why would you notice.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
That you're where my Katie's mother always your friend Katie
is ass Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I mean she's eighty two, but you know, I mean
this was you know, this was back when she was
she was younger.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
This was like what fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Ago, back when she had better eyesight.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
She talked a lot.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Christian lady loves Jesus, loves God and loves that ass.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, God gave it to him.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So you're at so FI today.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
The game tonight, of course, is the Thursday night football
match up between the Minnesota Vikings coming into town to
take on the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, is this a make or break game for them?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I mean I felt this way for three weeks. Must win,
must win, must win for different reasons. Right right now,
the Chargers after the blow that they were sir here
with the Colts, with Daniel Jones, with Jonathan Taylor, just
on Sunday, it feels like we were here yesterday was
(03:08):
soul crushing. It's soul crushing for your defense to get
beaten that bat, especially at home, have forty points hung
on you. It is demoralizing. So you've got to bounce back.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
You just have to.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Your whole season rests upon your bounce back that you
show tonight. Now, Carson Wentz the quarterback of the Vikings
because JJ McCarthy is still out with an injury. Carson
Wentz was bitching about playing on Thursday. On Sunday, following
their loss to the Eagles, he was already complaining about
his body not being ready to go. You don't always
hear players vocalize like that, so if he is vocalizing,
(03:41):
you know, it's that much worse. So Carson Wentz is
hobbling into this one. We've got a Chargers defense that
needs this more than anything. So that's the scene set
for you on this game.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
And the weather today should be absolutely I mean, granted
it's mostly indoor, yeah, but it should be an absolutely
hank another picture perfect day in the city of Los
Angeles for or technically the city of Englewood, but for
the national audience that's going to be watching this tonight.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
So there was we asked yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
We're talking specifically Russia Ukraine, and I just want to
mention this because there is some movement. It looks like
the Trump administration has put some additional sanctions on a
couple of Russia's largest oil companies. This is in reaction
to the shootdown of the meeting that was supposed to
take place between President and Trump and Vladimir Putin in
(04:35):
Budapest next week, and since that fell through, this is
sort of I guess the administration's response to that, which is, Okay, well,
if we're not making any progress, we're going to continue
to ratchet up sanctions. So at this point they put
sanctions on Rosneft and Luke Oil, the two Russian oil companies.
(04:56):
The general price of oil has gone up about five
percent in overseas markets. Of course, because of this, US
crude climbed about two percent. Treasury Department says these new
sanctions will harm the ability of Russia to raise revenue
to fund the war against Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, because look at who is already pulling out when
it comes to getting oil from Russia, and that's China
and India. And that is hobbling. That is hobbling. This
is Trump's move. Trump knows what he's doing. He doesn't
like that Putin is deing around with him. He's called
off the meeting. He's like, you know what, We've had
other talks and I thought they were good, but apparently
they didn't lead to anything. So I'm canceling this one.
(05:34):
Maybe we'll talk in the future. I'm paraphrasing, but he said,
maybe we'll talk in the future, but right now you're
the sanctions. Good luck without that Chinese and that Indian money.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Because that is a huge hit for Russia.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And that is something that can bring Vladimir Putin to
the table. You know, hit him where it hurts, and
you better believe this is where it hurts.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Feels a little late, but I mean it's better late
than ever when it comes to these kinds of sanctions.
So the other massive story that came out early this
morning is that there has been a series of arrests
around the country in two separate cases involving the NBA.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
We'll explain what's going on.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, it's fascinating.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
This is the first time that I have heard where
former big name athletes are using their names to lure
big money guys to the poker table and then just
fleece them.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
In the most technologically advanced ways you could do it
when it comes to poker.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
So we'll talk about all of that when we come back.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Since John's out of Town. Conway's going to be on
starting at one o'clock today.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Perfect.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Oh, I love that, and he'll love that. I have
time to kill and now I have a show to
listen to.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
He'll take you all the way up to pregame, which
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Speaker 6 (07:33):
Morning, Gary and Shannon. Hey, Shannon, I just want you
to know that I think you're delightful. You're just delightful.
You're so funny, charming. Gary, You're not chopped delivery either.
But I mean, Shannon just brightens things up, man, And
that's it. So I hope that helps your day be happy.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Why, what a wonderful day. What a wonderful way to
start the day was lovely?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Now you want to hear the other one? Yeah, no,
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Oh, bring me down from the high. So I was
listening to another radio show this morning when this news broke.
Dare you well, we weren't on yet. Oh and I
had already.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Listened to yesterday's podcast three times.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Oh, okay, you're the one.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
So I was listening to this radio show this morning
and the news was breaking, and they kept saying, the
head coach of the Portland Trailblazers is wrapped up in
this this dambling scheme. Oh, the head coach of the
it's a head coach of the Portland Trailblazers. And I'm like,
Chauncey Billups, Like that's your lead, guys, Like it's Chauncey Billups,
(08:41):
Like uh, finals MVP with the Pistons who beat the
Lakers in recent years, well twenty years ago now, but
like Chauncey Billups is the name like Portland Trailblazers is
like down the list of of you know, high profile
things you throw out there, far down from Chauncey Billups. Well,
that is a I go to a poker game with
(09:03):
Chauncey Billups, Right, I don't go to the poker game
with the head coach of the Portland Trailblazers.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
And that's just somebody right in headlines not having any
clue as to who this.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Guy is, right, yes, and then holding oh, it was
a head coach, so they like they're held to a
higher standard or something. Okay, it's an MBA star that
achieved the highest height of.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
MBA fame at one point. That's who they are.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
No matter what job you take down the line, you're
always the guy that was the MVP of the finals.
That is where you live your life for the remainder
of your days. Well, no matter what you do, if
you collect trash or whatever, you're still the MVP of
the Finals.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
That's why we call Hillary Clinton secretary Clinton. She achieved
a certain level of secretary of state. We call former
presidents mister president. That's why we do it. US attorney
Joseph Nocella made the announcement this morning.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
We're announcing today indictments in two major cases, both involving fraud.
One involves sports betting and the other involves illegal gambling,
very specifically rigged poker games.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And the reason that they announced them both today is
there is some crossover. I think there are three three
guys who were indicted in both of the cases.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
So where to start.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
So it seems like there are two prongs, two arenas
in this war. Here you've got the big name athletes,
like your Chauncey Billups, who is signing on to go
to these poker games, high stakes poker games where guys
that earn a lot of money but and are tickled
(10:46):
with the idea of playing poker with the likes of
Chauncey Billups will go, oh, there's a poker game with
Chauncey Billups and at all right, other players or whatever,
but he's probably the headliner. Oh my god, that's so cool.
I can tell all my friends I've pa poker with
Chauncey Billups. Sure, so you go, and little do you
know that Chauncey Billips is in it, not just with
(11:07):
the guys sitting at the table, but with the dealer,
with the organizer, with the bartender, with the guy handing
out cigars. It's all to get your s ton of money.
It's all a game and to steal your money.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And the thing is, I mean, you made a great point.
Your excitement is you get to play cards with these guys. Yes,
you almost don't care that you're losing. I mean, you
probably care, but there's a there's a knowledge going into it.
I might lose to Chauncey Billups, but I get to
play poker.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
But Chnce Billips tell that story at every Bold cocktail
party I have to go to. And that's the thing.
These are guys with f and you money. They don't
even care. These aren't guys that are desperate like in
Black Rabbit to win back one hundred and eighty grand
or what have you, to pay off their bookies. These
are guys that have millions of dollars probably that they're
(11:57):
just playing around with so and so. That's and there's
so many of these targets out there. I mean, you're
in the you you play poker games, you know how
it works.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
It's usually just word of mouth.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Hey, there's a game here, there's a game here, there's
a game at my friend's house, or what have you.
And if that comes along with the tag of Chauncey billups,
hell yeah, I'm gonna go to that game.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So Joseph Nosela described how they were cheating. One of
the ways was using shuffling machines as opposed to doing
it yourself. That's how we don't cheat at my games,
using shuffling machines that would then predict which player is
going to have the best hand based on the cards
that they're dealt. That information gets relayed to somebody in
(12:38):
the room, usually at the table considered what he said.
The quarterback, who then signals to the guys who are
in on it, signals who on the table is going
to have the best hand, and they can at the
very least, you know, if they happen to be one
of the ones with the best hand, they can bet
the pots bigger. If they know that the other guy
has the best hand, they can get out of the
(12:59):
hand quicker. They also talked about special cards, contact lenses
that you could see marked cards, among other things.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
The quarterback then signaled secretly the information he had received
from others to others at the table, and together they
used that information in order to win their games and
to cheat the victims. Defendants used other cheating technologies such
as poker chip tray analyzers, which is a poker chip
(13:30):
tray that secretly reads cards using a hidden camera, special
contact lenses or eyeglasses that could read pre marked cards,
and an X ray table that could read cards face
down on the table.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Now, some of that technology, as weird as this sounds,
some of that technology is used in high end poker
when it's televised. That way, you and I watching it
can see what cards these people have, so that we want,
you know, it's more involved.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
We kind of get to pull the curtain back.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
But obviously they would play anytime you do World Series
of Poker or something like that, all of that's going
to be on delay, so nobody at the table would
have the ability to see it in real time.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
But that's that's the one aspect of this.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
The other aspect, well, just before we move on to that,
the other thing about this that is a nice reminder
is when you are going to a poker game, even
if it's a friendly poker game, you want to make
sure you know who you're playing with, because there could
be a couple guys working in cahoots with each other,
(14:38):
far less technology needed, where they just have tells.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
If they have a.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Good hand, the other one kind of backs off. They
can work in tandem to take your money. See, you
always want to have your poker games with friends or no,
or just be on the lookout for any sort of
tells because there's a there's there's ways for them to
take advantage of the sucker at the table.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, who's the fish. If you can't find the fish,
it's probably you.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
But yeah, well when we come back, we'll get into
the other flank of this one, because this one is
more probably more problematic, at least for me as a fan.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, we'll talk about that.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Am six forty.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I'm here today.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Shannon's over at SOFI Stadium, get ready for tonight's Thursday
night football match up between the Vikings and the Charger.
Speaker 8 (15:29):
Let's keep the Shannon love going. Shannon, I absolutely find
you delightful. You are just a ray of sunshine and
an otherwise often dark, dark world, and you really brighten
up my day, and especially your laugh.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
It's just the best.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
What happened? Why are you being so nice to me?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Why am I being I'm not here. I didn't record these.
These people are sending these talkbacks.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
It's just doing it. I may be I may be
front loading them the nice ones.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
That's very nice.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Hey, Gary and Shannon, I'm not flirting with you in
any way. But what kind of underware are you wearing?
Speaker 8 (16:05):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I'll go first on that one.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Clean?
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Do we know that?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I mean are they like fresh out of the laundry
warms fresh? Well?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I wouldn't they weren't warm?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Smell them? Do they smell like the detergents?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
They were cleaned and folded last night?
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Oh? Those are nice and clean? You are those your fall?
Your fall boxers? These are blue blue plaid kind of
mm hmm. Mine are super boring underwear, just like a
beige color.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
You didn't even go with clean. Huh.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
You don't need to know everything.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
We're talking about this big announcement that came out from
the FBI and the US Attorney's Office regarding a couple
of gambling cases that they broke up. Thirty some odd
people were arrested over the course of last night into
this morning, including Chauncey Billups, who is currently the head
(17:09):
of the head coach of the Portland Trailblazers. He's a
Hall of Fame basketball player, a great career, but is
no longer a player. He and some players and coaches
were also arrested.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
The Chauncey Billups part was that he was taking part
in poker games allegedly that were run by the mafia. Yeah, allegedly.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
And it's three families, it's three crime families.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
I will watch this movie. I will go on opening
weekend in the summer.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
It's the Banano, the Gambino and the Genovese crime families.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Three families in on this thing.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
They would just get high rollers in there, They'd get
wales in there that come in and just drop all
this money for the opportunity to play with celebrities in
this case, you know NBA players. The other aspect of this,
of the announouncement today is a completely separate case, but
it involved players basically underperforming to benefit betters.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yes, you can bet the under on stat projections. As
we know in twenty twenty five, there's a number of
ways to do it. It's a little hard to play
with an over As a player, you kind of know
what you're going to achieve or you hope to achieve,
and if you could do better on than that, why
not turn it on. But it's much easier to help
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out the under bets because you know how to underachieve right.
Here is an example. It comes from March twenty third,
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Let me Let, Let me let Jessica Tish do it.
She is the commissioner of the NYPD and explains that
this scenario the one that you're talking about.
Speaker 9 (18:54):
One example occurred on March twenty third, twenty twenty three,
in Charlotte. Terry Rogier, player now with the Miami Heat
but at the time playing for the Hornets, allegedly let
others close to him know that he planned to leave
the game early with a supposed injury. Using that information,
members of the group placed more than two hundred thousand
(19:15):
dollars in wagers on his under statistics. Rogier exited the
game after just nine minutes, and those bets paid out,
generating tens of thousands of dollars in profit. The proceeds
were later delivered to his home where the group counted
their cash as the NBA season tips off, his career
(19:36):
is already benched.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Not for each Okay, I got cut her off there.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It's important to point out that this guy Rogier is
making about twenty six million dollars this year, and in
the course of his career has made about one hundred
and sixty million dollars. This stuff that he's now, he's
not the one necessarily benefiting from this in terms of
He's not the one that's raking in the money. It's
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the betters who are. But he's providing the statistics. You
better believe he's making money. What I mean is it
doesn't mean as much to him as it does to
them in terms of their overall earnings. This is pocket
change for a guy making twenty six million dollars a year.
This is basically maybe a game's worth of money that
(20:23):
he can collect for this.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I would wager that he's being paid handily. And baseball, basketball,
football players they don't budget their money the way you do.
They spend it all. They spend it all yesterday. And
I bet he was making money hand over fist. He's
been in the NBA eleven years.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
This was a guy who was pretty He was a
pretty big.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Deal with the Celtics when they were making their playoff runs,
before he joined the Hornets where he is accused of
this wrongdoing, and before he joined the now Heat. But
he's been in the game a long time and part
of it is part of it is the thrill of
the gamble, part of it is the high. Part of
it is you know your serotonin distribution is not the
(21:07):
same way it was your first year in the NBA,
and this is something extra to play with.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
So uh oh, I wanted to play one more thing
that US attorney Joseph Massela, this is his I've never
heard of him before. I've never seen him in news
conferences before, and we see news conferences all the time.
He took this opportunity again breaking up these big gambling rings,
to try to be a little poetic, and it just
fell flat.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
My message to the defendants who've been rounded up today
is this, Your winning streak has ended.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Aha, Your luck has run out? Got it?
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Violating the law is a losing proposition.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Ah, And you can bet on that.
Speaker 8 (21:49):
God.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I'm embarrassed. I am embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
There was nobody who said mister Yu's attorney. I don't
think you don't have to You don't have to say
that part.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I didn't see what this guy looks like. Like if
that came from a from like an eighty year old,
grizzled veteran of you know, the Justice Department, that'd be
one thing. But that guy sounds way too young to
sound that.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Old, Like, what are you doing? That's ridiculous?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
All right?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
We all have negative things that go on in our life.
How do you adjust them in your head? You forget
about them, You minimize them, reframing the negative experience.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Oh, I love gas therapy.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
This is it? Just light that candle and lay down
on the couch.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Do you want another hint about our feel good underwear
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Speaker 3 (22:35):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
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Speaker 3 (23:00):
Twice twice as nice?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
All right, that is a losing proposition, and you can
bet on it.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Am sixty.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I getting a little heat from for being here a
little early, for people don't know about the show.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
I get here a little early. Why are you at
the stadium already? It's a night game. Let's just pump
the brakes.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Who's giving you? Who would do such a thing?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
People that don't know about this great show, About this
wonderful show.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Gary?
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Oh you mean people there are giving you like they?
Why are you here? Did you know it's a five
o'clock kickoff?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
One o'clock?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Get it? It must win?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Got it?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
I didn't need to be here for several hours.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I just wanted to let you know I'm doing my
part to turn around the Chargers defense, specifically the run defense.
I have changed the pencil that I I'm using for
my game prep and in game notes. I have decided
on a different pencil than the one I used on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Hansl Yes, Superstition is a big part of being anywhere
close to sports, right, Hamlet said to his buddies. There
is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.
Psychologists call it cognitive reappraisal or maybe even reframing. You
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can have an awful morning. You could fender bender something
like that, card is a star whatever.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
However, whatever happens.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Something's rotten in the state of Denmark.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
You may also also Hamlet.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
The way that we think about things, though can change
significantly the way it's stored in our memory, which I
thought was kind of interesting.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
That's right, as Hamlet would say, the rest is silence.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I didn't realize you knew that much about Hamlet.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Oh, it's the best one, is the best one.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
It is the best one.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
One way to reappraise, it's the best of all the books.
You know, it's the old the new.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
One way is to reinterpret a situation by look on
the bright looking on the bright side, Like you get
into a crash, but hey, it's not as bad as
it could have been, or I didn't walk away.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Nobody got hurt by the way.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I do that from time to time, and people hate
me for it.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I think that's a.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Very Uh, that's a great quality to have, because I
don't think people can do it. A lot of people
cannot look at the bright side of things. They only
see the negative. The other one would be psychological distancing.
You know, you don't actually change what happened, but you
you change how important it is. Think of like a
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long term house remodel or something like that. It's going
to take weeks for you to get your kitchen redone.
But in the grand scheme of things you forget, you
will eventually forget that period of time when your kitchen
was in disarray. You're just gonna joaly the new kitchen
or the cabinets or whatever.
Speaker 10 (26:01):
It is.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Like a vacation. You go on vacation.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
You run into all these hecups on vacation, but the
train is canceled, your car won't start.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
They speak a foreign language.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
They speak a foreign language, You get robbed, whatever it is.
When you look back on the vacation, all of that
it goes away.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
You only remember the good stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Well, listen to this one from Evan.
Speaker 10 (26:21):
Morning Guys, Evan from Anaheim. So the head gasket all
my Subaru grenated itself, and the amount of the repairs
the cost was more than the car was worth. So
at first I kind of took it bad, but then
found out my little brother was selling his motorcycle at
his wife's request. So now I daily ride a motorcycle
to work, and quite honestly, didn't realize I was depressed
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because I've never been happier. Oh my gosh, it's the best.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
See that's a great reapphrase.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
It's the best until your wife says no more motorcycle.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Yeah about that motorcycle thing.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Right, I mean that's a cool life pivot though, to
go from the Subaru, which is a great vehicle, sure,
to riding every day. It's like this newfound freedom you
your bike, the open.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Road, open roads and wind blowing through what's left.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Of your hair makes you feel young again.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Sure does.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
All right, Gary and Shannon will continue right after this.
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Lucky underwe like that that I wear in an attempt
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I'm wearing these underwear like I need this to happen,
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Interesting. No, I wouldn't say so. I would say I
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Different styles.
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They're designs, but it's not like a recognizable creature or with.
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As close as I get is a plaid pair of
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That's kind of spicy. That's fun from the fall line
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I don't know how outside the box it is.
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Well, I have a great story about a lucky pair
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and wey we'll do the story coming up later, maybe
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I know that.
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I think it was Aubrey Huff. It was the first
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I mean she's eighty two, but you know, I mean
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This was like what fifteen years.
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She talked a lot.
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Christian lady loves Jesus, loves God and loves that ass.
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Well, God gave it to him.
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The game tonight, of course, is the Thursday night football
match up between the Minnesota Vikings coming into town to
take on the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, is this a make or break game for them?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I mean I felt this way for three weeks. Must win,
must win, must win for different reasons. Right right now,
the Chargers after the blow that they were sir here
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on Sunday, it feels like we were here yesterday was
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soul crushing. It's soul crushing for your defense to get
beaten that bat, especially at home, have forty points hung
on you. It is demoralizing. So you've got to bounce back.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
You just have to.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Your whole season rests upon your bounce back that you
show tonight. Now, Carson Wentz the quarterback of the Vikings
because JJ McCarthy is still out with an injury. Carson
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And the weather today should be absolutely I mean, granted
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hank another picture perfect day in the city of Los
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the national audience that's going to be watching this tonight.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
So there was we asked yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
We're talking specifically Russia Ukraine, and I just want to
mention this because there is some movement. It looks like
the Trump administration has put some additional sanctions on a
couple of Russia's largest oil companies. This is in reaction
to the shootdown of the meeting that was supposed to
take place between President and Trump and Vladimir Putin in
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Budapest next week, and since that fell through, this is
sort of I guess the administration's response to that, which is, Okay, well,
if we're not making any progress, we're going to continue
to ratchet up sanctions. So at this point they put
sanctions on Rosneft and Luke Oil, the two Russian oil companies.
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The general price of oil has gone up about five
percent in overseas markets. Of course, because of this, US
crude climbed about two percent. Treasury Department says these new
sanctions will harm the ability of Russia to raise revenue
to fund the war against Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, because look at who is already pulling out when
it comes to getting oil from Russia, and that's China
and India. And that is hobbling. That is hobbling. This
is Trump's move. Trump knows what he's doing. He doesn't
like that Putin is deing around with him. He's called
off the meeting. He's like, you know what, We've had
other talks and I thought they were good, but apparently
they didn't lead to anything. So I'm canceling this one.
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Maybe we'll talk in the future. I'm paraphrasing, but he said,
maybe we'll talk in the future, but right now you're
the sanctions. Good luck without that Chinese and that Indian money.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Because that is a huge hit for Russia.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And that is something that can bring Vladimir Putin to
the table. You know, hit him where it hurts, and
you better believe this is where it hurts.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Feels a little late, but I mean it's better late
than ever when it comes to these kinds of sanctions.
So the other massive story that came out early this
morning is that there has been a series of arrests
around the country in two separate cases involving the NBA.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
We'll explain what's going on.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, it's fascinating.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
This is the first time that I have heard where
former big name athletes are using their names to lure
big money guys to the poker table and then just
fleece them.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
In the most technologically advanced ways you could do it
when it comes to poker.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
So we'll talk about all of that when we come back.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
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Since John's out of Town. Conway's going to be on
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Perfect.
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Oh, I love that, and he'll love that. I have
time to kill and now I have a show to
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Morning, Gary and Shannon. Hey, Shannon, I just want you
to know that I think you're delightful. You're just delightful.
You're so funny, charming. Gary, You're not chopped delivery either.
But I mean, Shannon just brightens things up, man, And
that's it. So I hope that helps your day be happy.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Why, what a wonderful day. What a wonderful way to
start the day was lovely?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Now you want to hear the other one? Yeah, no,
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Oh, bring me down from the high. So I was
listening to another radio show this morning when this news broke.
Dare you well, we weren't on yet. Oh and I
had already.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Listened to yesterday's podcast three times.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Oh, okay, you're the one.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
So I was listening to this radio show this morning
and the news was breaking, and they kept saying, the
head coach of the Portland Trailblazers is wrapped up in
this this dambling scheme. Oh, the head coach of the
it's a head coach of the Portland Trailblazers. And I'm like,
Chauncey Billups, Like that's your lead, guys, Like it's Chauncey Billups,
(08:41):
Like uh, finals MVP with the Pistons who beat the
Lakers in recent years, well twenty years ago now, but
like Chauncey Billups is the name like Portland Trailblazers is
like down the list of of you know, high profile
things you throw out there, far down from Chauncey Billups. Well,
that is a I go to a poker game with
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Chauncey Billups, Right, I don't go to the poker game
with the head coach of the Portland Trailblazers.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
And that's just somebody right in headlines not having any
clue as to who this.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Guy is, right, yes, and then holding oh, it was
a head coach, so they like they're held to a
higher standard or something. Okay, it's an MBA star that
achieved the highest height of.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
MBA fame at one point. That's who they are.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
No matter what job you take down the line, you're
always the guy that was the MVP of the finals.
That is where you live your life for the remainder
of your days. Well, no matter what you do, if
you collect trash or whatever, you're still the MVP of
the Finals.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
That's why we call Hillary Clinton secretary Clinton. She achieved
a certain level of secretary of state. We call former
presidents mister president. That's why we do it. US attorney
Joseph Nocella made the announcement this morning.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
We're announcing today indictments in two major cases, both involving fraud.
One involves sports betting and the other involves illegal gambling,
very specifically rigged poker games.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And the reason that they announced them both today is
there is some crossover. I think there are three three
guys who were indicted in both of the cases.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
So where to start.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
So it seems like there are two prongs, two arenas
in this war. Here you've got the big name athletes,
like your Chauncey Billups, who is signing on to go
to these poker games, high stakes poker games where guys
that earn a lot of money but and are tickled
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with the idea of playing poker with the likes of
Chauncey Billups will go, oh, there's a poker game with
Chauncey Billups and at all right, other players or whatever,
but he's probably the headliner. Oh my god, that's so cool.
I can tell all my friends I've pa poker with
Chauncey Billups. Sure, so you go, and little do you
know that Chauncey Billips is in it, not just with
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the guys sitting at the table, but with the dealer,
with the organizer, with the bartender, with the guy handing
out cigars. It's all to get your s ton of money.
It's all a game and to steal your money.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And the thing is, I mean, you made a great point.
Your excitement is you get to play cards with these guys. Yes,
you almost don't care that you're losing. I mean, you
probably care, but there's a there's a knowledge going into it.
I might lose to Chauncey Billups, but I get to
play poker.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
But Chnce Billips tell that story at every Bold cocktail
party I have to go to. And that's the thing.
These are guys with f and you money. They don't
even care. These aren't guys that are desperate like in
Black Rabbit to win back one hundred and eighty grand
or what have you, to pay off their bookies. These
are guys that have millions of dollars probably that they're
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just playing around with so and so. That's and there's
so many of these targets out there. I mean, you're
in the you you play poker games, you know how
it works.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
It's usually just word of mouth.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Hey, there's a game here, there's a game here, there's
a game at my friend's house, or what have you.
And if that comes along with the tag of Chauncey billups,
hell yeah, I'm gonna go to that game.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So Joseph Nosela described how they were cheating. One of
the ways was using shuffling machines as opposed to doing
it yourself. That's how we don't cheat at my games,
using shuffling machines that would then predict which player is
going to have the best hand based on the cards
that they're dealt. That information gets relayed to somebody in
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the room, usually at the table considered what he said.
The quarterback, who then signals to the guys who are
in on it, signals who on the table is going
to have the best hand, and they can at the
very least, you know, if they happen to be one
of the ones with the best hand, they can bet
the pots bigger. If they know that the other guy
has the best hand, they can get out of the
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hand quicker. They also talked about special cards, contact lenses
that you could see marked cards, among other things.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
The quarterback then signaled secretly the information he had received
from others to others at the table, and together they
used that information in order to win their games and
to cheat the victims. Defendants used other cheating technologies such
as poker chip tray analyzers, which is a poker chip
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tray that secretly reads cards using a hidden camera, special
contact lenses or eyeglasses that could read pre marked cards,
and an X ray table that could read cards face
down on the table.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Now, some of that technology, as weird as this sounds,
some of that technology is used in high end poker
when it's televised. That way, you and I watching it
can see what cards these people have, so that we want,
you know, it's more involved.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
We kind of get to pull the curtain back.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
But obviously they would play anytime you do World Series
of Poker or something like that, all of that's going
to be on delay, so nobody at the table would
have the ability to see it in real time.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
But that's that's the one aspect of this.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
The other aspect, well, just before we move on to that,
the other thing about this that is a nice reminder
is when you are going to a poker game, even
if it's a friendly poker game, you want to make
sure you know who you're playing with, because there could
be a couple guys working in cahoots with each other,
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far less technology needed, where they just have tells.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
If they have a.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Good hand, the other one kind of backs off. They
can work in tandem to take your money. See, you
always want to have your poker games with friends or no,
or just be on the lookout for any sort of
tells because there's a there's there's ways for them to
take advantage of the sucker at the table.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, who's the fish. If you can't find the fish,
it's probably you.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
But yeah, well when we come back, we'll get into
the other flank of this one, because this one is
more probably more problematic, at least for me as a fan.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, we'll talk about that.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
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Speaker 3 (15:22):
I'm here today.
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Shannon's over at SOFI Stadium, get ready for tonight's Thursday
night football match up between the Vikings and the Charger.
Speaker 8 (15:29):
Let's keep the Shannon love going. Shannon, I absolutely find
you delightful. You are just a ray of sunshine and
an otherwise often dark, dark world, and you really brighten
up my day, and especially your laugh.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
It's just the best.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
What happened? Why are you being so nice to me?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Why am I being I'm not here. I didn't record these.
These people are sending these talkbacks.
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It's just doing it. I may be I may be
front loading them the nice ones.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
That's very nice.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Hey, Gary and Shannon, I'm not flirting with you in
any way. But what kind of underware are you wearing?
Speaker 8 (16:05):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I'll go first on that one.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Clean?
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Do we know that?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I mean are they like fresh out of the laundry
warms fresh? Well?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I wouldn't they weren't warm?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Smell them? Do they smell like the detergents?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
They were cleaned and folded last night?
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Oh? Those are nice and clean? You are those your fall?
Your fall boxers? These are blue blue plaid kind of
mm hmm. Mine are super boring underwear, just like a
beige color.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
You didn't even go with clean. Huh.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
You don't need to know everything.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
We're talking about this big announcement that came out from
the FBI and the US Attorney's Office regarding a couple
of gambling cases that they broke up. Thirty some odd
people were arrested over the course of last night into
this morning, including Chauncey Billups, who is currently the head
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of the head coach of the Portland Trailblazers. He's a
Hall of Fame basketball player, a great career, but is
no longer a player. He and some players and coaches
were also arrested.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
The Chauncey Billups part was that he was taking part
in poker games allegedly that were run by the mafia. Yeah, allegedly.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
And it's three families, it's three crime families.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
I will watch this movie. I will go on opening
weekend in the summer.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
It's the Banano, the Gambino and the Genovese crime families.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Three families in on this thing.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
They would just get high rollers in there, They'd get
wales in there that come in and just drop all
this money for the opportunity to play with celebrities in
this case, you know NBA players. The other aspect of this,
of the announouncement today is a completely separate case, but
it involved players basically underperforming to benefit betters.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yes, you can bet the under on stat projections. As
we know in twenty twenty five, there's a number of
ways to do it. It's a little hard to play
with an over As a player, you kind of know
what you're going to achieve or you hope to achieve,
and if you could do better on than that, why
not turn it on. But it's much easier to help
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out the under bets because you know how to underachieve right.
Here is an example. It comes from March twenty third,
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Let me Let, Let me let Jessica Tish do it.
She is the commissioner of the NYPD and explains that
this scenario the one that you're talking about.
Speaker 9 (18:54):
One example occurred on March twenty third, twenty twenty three,
in Charlotte. Terry Rogier, player now with the Miami Heat
but at the time playing for the Hornets, allegedly let
others close to him know that he planned to leave
the game early with a supposed injury. Using that information,
members of the group placed more than two hundred thousand
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dollars in wagers on his under statistics. Rogier exited the
game after just nine minutes, and those bets paid out,
generating tens of thousands of dollars in profit. The proceeds
were later delivered to his home where the group counted
their cash as the NBA season tips off, his career
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is already benched.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Not for each Okay, I got cut her off there.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It's important to point out that this guy Rogier is
making about twenty six million dollars this year, and in
the course of his career has made about one hundred
and sixty million dollars. This stuff that he's now, he's
not the one necessarily benefiting from this in terms of
He's not the one that's raking in the money. It's
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the betters who are. But he's providing the statistics. You
better believe he's making money. What I mean is it
doesn't mean as much to him as it does to
them in terms of their overall earnings. This is pocket
change for a guy making twenty six million dollars a year.
This is basically maybe a game's worth of money that
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he can collect for this.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I would wager that he's being paid handily. And baseball, basketball,
football players they don't budget their money the way you do.
They spend it all. They spend it all yesterday. And
I bet he was making money hand over fist. He's
been in the NBA eleven years.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
This was a guy who was pretty He was a
pretty big.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Deal with the Celtics when they were making their playoff runs,
before he joined the Hornets where he is accused of
this wrongdoing, and before he joined the now Heat. But
he's been in the game a long time and part
of it is part of it is the thrill of
the gamble, part of it is the high. Part of
it is you know your serotonin distribution is not the
(21:07):
same way it was your first year in the NBA,
and this is something extra to play with.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
So uh oh, I wanted to play one more thing
that US attorney Joseph Massela, this is his I've never
heard of him before. I've never seen him in news
conferences before, and we see news conferences all the time.
He took this opportunity again breaking up these big gambling rings,
to try to be a little poetic, and it just
fell flat.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
My message to the defendants who've been rounded up today
is this, Your winning streak has ended.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Aha, Your luck has run out? Got it?
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Violating the law is a losing proposition.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Ah, And you can bet on that.
Speaker 8 (21:49):
God.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I'm embarrassed. I am embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
There was nobody who said mister Yu's attorney. I don't
think you don't have to You don't have to say
that part.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I didn't see what this guy looks like. Like if
that came from a from like an eighty year old,
grizzled veteran of you know, the Justice Department, that'd be
one thing. But that guy sounds way too young to
sound that.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Old, Like, what are you doing? That's ridiculous?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
All right?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
We all have negative things that go on in our life.
How do you adjust them in your head? You forget
about them, You minimize them, reframing the negative experience.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Oh, I love gas therapy.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
This is it? Just light that candle and lay down
on the couch.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Do you want another hint about our feel good underwear
story coming up next hour?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
You know how you as exotic as you get with
your underwear. It's just that pumpkin spice flavor plaid that
you whip out in the fall sometimes, right, imagine this
rabbits shooting rainbow lasers on your underrus rabbits shooting rainbow
(22:57):
lasers depicted on your underwear.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Twice twice as nice?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
All right, that is a losing proposition, and you can
bet on it.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Am sixty.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I getting a little heat from for being here a
little early, for people don't know about the show.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
I get here a little early. Why are you at
the stadium already? It's a night game. Let's just pump
the brakes.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Who's giving you? Who would do such a thing?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
People that don't know about this great show, About this
wonderful show.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Gary?
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Oh you mean people there are giving you like they?
Why are you here? Did you know it's a five
o'clock kickoff?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
One o'clock?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Get it? It must win?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Got it?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
I didn't need to be here for several hours.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I just wanted to let you know I'm doing my
part to turn around the Chargers defense, specifically the run defense.
I have changed the pencil that I I'm using for
my game prep and in game notes. I have decided
on a different pencil than the one I used on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Hansl Yes, Superstition is a big part of being anywhere
close to sports, right, Hamlet said to his buddies. There
is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.
Psychologists call it cognitive reappraisal or maybe even reframing. You
(24:28):
can have an awful morning. You could fender bender something
like that, card is a star whatever.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
However, whatever happens.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Something's rotten in the state of Denmark.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
You may also also Hamlet.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
The way that we think about things, though can change
significantly the way it's stored in our memory, which I
thought was kind of interesting.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
That's right, as Hamlet would say, the rest is silence.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I didn't realize you knew that much about Hamlet.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Oh, it's the best one, is the best one.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
It is the best one.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
One way to reappraise, it's the best of all the books.
You know, it's the old the new.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
One way is to reinterpret a situation by look on
the bright looking on the bright side, Like you get
into a crash, but hey, it's not as bad as
it could have been, or I didn't walk away.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Nobody got hurt by the way.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I do that from time to time, and people hate
me for it.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I think that's a.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Very Uh, that's a great quality to have, because I
don't think people can do it. A lot of people
cannot look at the bright side of things. They only
see the negative. The other one would be psychological distancing.
You know, you don't actually change what happened, but you
you change how important it is. Think of like a
(25:44):
long term house remodel or something like that. It's going
to take weeks for you to get your kitchen redone.
But in the grand scheme of things you forget, you
will eventually forget that period of time when your kitchen
was in disarray. You're just gonna joaly the new kitchen
or the cabinets or whatever.
Speaker 10 (26:01):
It is.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Like a vacation. You go on vacation.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
You run into all these hecups on vacation, but the
train is canceled, your car won't start.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
They speak a foreign language.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
They speak a foreign language, You get robbed, whatever it is.
When you look back on the vacation, all of that
it goes away.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
You only remember the good stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Well, listen to this one from Evan.
Speaker 10 (26:21):
Morning Guys, Evan from Anaheim. So the head gasket all
my Subaru grenated itself, and the amount of the repairs
the cost was more than the car was worth. So
at first I kind of took it bad, but then
found out my little brother was selling his motorcycle at
his wife's request. So now I daily ride a motorcycle
to work, and quite honestly, didn't realize I was depressed
(26:44):
because I've never been happier. Oh my gosh, it's the best.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
See that's a great reapphrase.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
It's the best until your wife says no more motorcycle.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Yeah about that motorcycle thing.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Right, I mean that's a cool life pivot though, to
go from the Subaru, which is a great vehicle, sure,
to riding every day. It's like this newfound freedom you
your bike, the open.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Road, open roads and wind blowing through what's left.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Of your hair makes you feel young again.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Sure does.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
All right, Gary and Shannon will continue right after this.
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