July 1, 2025 • 32 mins
#What'sHappening - Senate Republicans have passed a tax bill proposed by Trump, which includes cuts to Medicaid and SNAP. (NPR) Public health officials in Los Angeles County have issued warnings for seven Southern California beaches due to high levels of bacteria. Since 2020, Los Angeles has paid out nearly $1 billion in liability claims. (KTLA) Europe is experiencing a heatwave, with Spain and England recording their hottest June on record. Changes are coming to California’s landmark environmental law. A 13-year-old boy riding an e-motorcycle was injured after running a red light and colliding with a truck. Federal Reserve Chair Powell stated that he is not ruling out an interest rate cut this month. Starbucks is facing competition from an expanding Chinese coffee chain. The California Highway Patrol (CHP) will conduct a Holiday Enforcement Period for the Fourth of July weekend. An already intoxicated driver crashed while huffing nitrous and then led police on a foot chase. A look inside the complex and sometimes petty prenuptial agreements of the superwealthy.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. They're making the Devilwar's product sequel. Yeah,
when did you hear about this?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Well, I thought that I wouldn't be the first, but
I saw it over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
And you did not text me that girling full Well.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
You were playing John Muir, you were doing your little
cosplay thing.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
What do you want me to do?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
A text would have been nice. Hey, Shannon, they're doing
a sequel to the Devilwar's.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Praduc Oh, that's not going to be something.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
That's not what I go to you for. No, No, Well,
you sent all the stuff about that the girl married
to Harry what is her name?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Harry? Oh, Magan Markle.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, you send me those updates all the time.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Well, nine dollars is a lot for a jar jam.
For goodness sake, it is a lie.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Oh my god, I heard you do that accent, the
mother accent yesterday and I almost drove off the road.
I loved it so much. It's so good.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
We've somebody else mentioned that it was Bobby Bonia Day
today and if you haven't seen this story.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
This is really fantastic.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Sixty two year old Bobby Bonia, former baseball player. He
gets a check from the New York Mets every July
First for one point one nine million dollars. He first
signed with the Mets in nineteen ninety one, at the
time the richest contract five years and twenty nine million dollars.
And then it was his contract during the second stint
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with the Mets that caused the issue. He went from
the Mets to the Orioles, traded signed a four year
deal with that with the Marlins before the ninety seven season,
traded to the Dodgers, and the Mike Piazza deal traded
back to the Mets for two years eleven point Anyway,
he kind of fell off. He just got old, and
(02:06):
the Mets eventually bought out the rest of the deal
January of two thousand, but to do so, they agreed
to defer the remaining five point nine million dollars with
eight percent interest spread across twenty eleven through twenty thirty five.
So he gets one point one nine million dollars every
(02:27):
July first until twenty thirty five. On top of the
eight the five hundred thousand dollars he gets every year
from the Orioles and hasn't played for twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
You should have spent more time out at the old
Diamond practicing what I'm saying, I.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Apparently should have.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
What else is going on? Time four?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
What's happening?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Man? It is hot in Europe, dangerous conditions. Historic sites
shut down. This is a problem in Europe when they
get temperature like we do. Because they don't have air conditioning.
They have, you know, swamp coolers. Maybe this is a
heat wive with one hundred degree temps across a Europe.
(03:11):
They've closed schools and they say that this is the
hottest month of June. Ever, France issued a red alert today,
warned of severe health impacts as the temperature reached one
hundred and four. They anticipate that today will be among
the ten hottest days ever in France. Ever, Ever, the
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Eiffel Tower had to close its top floor. It had
to shorten its hours, turn people away who didn't have
advanced tickets. Why, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Because it's hotter at the top or something.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I have no idea. In Belgium, temperatures reached the high nineties.
They had to close the atomium attraction, the model of
the iron molecule built for the fifty nine Brussels World Fair. Gosh,
it's so funny between the Eiffel Tower and the antonium attract.
(04:08):
I mean, that's apples and oranges, isn't it? For am?
I just being a dumb dumb I've never heard of
this iron molecule attraction, have you?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
The Senate has passed President Trump's signature domestic policy bill,
the One Big Beautiful Bill, setting the final vote, setting
the stage for a final vote in the House. The
final vote today fifty one to fifty. It was fifty
to fifty, but Vice President Jady Vance came in and
broke the tie. We've told you that Tom Tillis in
North Carolina, Ran Paul of Kentucky, and Susan Collins of Maine,
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the three Republicans who voted against this. The President said
he wants it on his desk by July fourth. We're
not quite sure if in fact that will happen.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Who wants a jumpstart on their summer weight loss plans?
I can give you seven places to go that will
do just that for you. Because the La County Department
of Public Health is cautioning people against the Seven Beaches.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Woop cruise.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
You're going to get the Shagela. You're going to get
the poop cruise. Ramirez Creek at Paradise Cove, you know
where that is. It is often a fender. The bel
Air Bay Club at Will Roger State Beach is another.
Feces in the foam situation. Mother's Beach in Marina del Rey.
I wouldn't wash my shoes in that place. Windward storm
(05:28):
drain at Venice Beach. Oh, come on, kids, let's go
play in the storm drain castle Rock storm drain at
Tipega County Beach, Santa Monica Pier as you mentioned, and
enter Cabrio Beach in San.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Pedro, the entire swim area.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
You want to get a little feces, you want to
drop six pounds by the fourth check them out.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
There was a piece of legislation the governor knew some
signed yesterday, is going to roll back some of the
state's landmark environmental laws for urban residential developments. They said
that this is arguably the big u guest move from
SEQUAB the California Environmental Quality Act basically since it came
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into effect fifty five years ago. Many have argued that
the law has been weaponized to block new housing projects
and development, and the governor is again adding his resume
to run as a relative moderate. When he does so,
coming up in the next couple of several.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Months, Starbucks is going to maybe get some competition, dare
I say from China? Now? If China comes for Starbucks,
that will be how a war is begun, because people
who are Starbucks people are very serious about it. And
(06:48):
if this Chinese coffee chain it's called Luckin Coffee expands
into the United States offering the lower cost alternative, I
don't know. I think that there's going to be a
real civil war that goes on here. Luckin Coffee debut
in twenty seventeen. They offer coffee drinks at prices roughly
thirty percent lower than Starbucks.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Oh, and they're popular with the kids in China. There
are more Luckins than Starbucks, you might imagine. But right
now Luckin is opening its first walk in stores in
New York. They say that they have streamlined operations and
the competitive pricing that they've seen that you mentioned.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It would be nice if Starbucks get a little wake
up call and did not charge as much as they do.
It's insane and I prefer.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I don't know if you heard me say yesterday that
wife and I were in Malibu over the weekend and
they had a Starbucks. You got to walk past the
Starbucks to get to the local coffee shop. But if
there's a choice between the two, ILL always take the
local one.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Did you just go to Malibu for fun or was
there an event or just for fun?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I mean, we just look at you.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I like this.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I've read the.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Stories that they were hurting for business. So we went
there and grabbed lunch. Oh cool, beautiful, beautiful day. Awful,
awful destruction that still exists and is still very evident
from the fires.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, I finally got enough shower in the last break.
I like this working from home thing. You can just
sit here and smell for a couple hours before you
get around it to a shower.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Wait, you took a shower in the commercial break.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, Debra was doing the news.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I bored you that much.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Huh No, It's just I thought I heard your voice
and I go, oh, I need to take a shower
before the earthquake.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
There you gosh.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
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We'll talk about the crazy world of very high value
pre nuptial agreements. We come back.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty prenuptial agreement.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Nothing more romantic than saying, I don't think this is
going to last.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Do you want to live with me forever?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Well, people like to protect themselves. They like to protect
against Every story starts off in love, right. You look
at marriages, You've been to weddings. Everyone starts off happy,
but you also know the stories about divorce. Something happens.
So there is a little air of your betting on
us to fail. But on the other hand, it's well,
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I'm betting to so that I'm protected in the event
that the switch flips and you want to take my
pension or what have you. Jeff Bezos and Mackenzie Scott
when they divorced in twenty nineteen, they did not have
a prenuptial agreement to govern the division of of their assets.
(10:01):
Now to your point that you made yesterday. When Jeff
Bezos got started, he was an everyman and he wasn't
the kind of guy who would have ordered a prenup. Right. Well,
he's a very different person now. He's not that guy
that drove the eighty seven civic to work in Seattle.
He's the guy who has a fifty million dollar wedding
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or upwards of that, depending on who you ask. So
the first wife got a steak in Amazon dot Com
valued at thirty five billion dollars. Now the talk is
what kind of prenup did you put in place this
go around?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, because you I mean, not that she's been with
him the whole time, but I mean, Lauren Sanchez is
not going to turn around and divorce the guy and
immediately get half of what he has. One of the
things that he's got is probably a building full of
lawyers that would be able to fight that. But the
other very high profile divorce that happened within the last
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couple of years was Bill and Milline the Gates, and
she didn't get as much. I think she got two billions,
and it's a lot to laugh at, right, two billion?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
How is she going to survive?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
But she came I think if I read this correctly,
she also controlled about twelve billion when it came to
the Billain Melindigate's foundation, and was not that she used
the money for herself, but that she was in control
of that twelve billion, so she got to decide where
that that stuff goes.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
The problem with prenups, Oh, go ahead, I.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Was just gonna say, the problem with having that much
money is a lot of times it comes with you're
not talking about gold, the balloons stuck in the basement somewhere.
It's a lot of things that take a lot of
legal disentanglement before it can actually be distributed to different people.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Prenups can include sunset clauses onunder which the agreement expires
after ten or twenty years, which is a way to
acknowledge that long marriages grow into genuine partnerships that after
ten or twenty years, if we last ten or twenty
years been great, then I been I'm betting on us. Essentially,
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these days, they say ultra wealthy clients increasingly prefer stepped agreements.
So a spouse might receive five million if there's a
divorce after five years of marriage, but if you stick
with them for ten you get twenty million. Now, that
would just be in the back of my mind. That
would be in the back of my mind. You know,
is my wife or husband staying with me for ten
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years just to get half of whatever? Or you know,
once you think, once you think about that, if you
if you had a bunch of money like these two
jeff Bezos and Bill Gates. They I'm assuming they married
their first people when they were nothing.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I wouldn't say nothing.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Well, they showed great promise, but they didn't have gazillions
of dollars.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
They didn't have two hundred billion.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
No.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, they're just really smart guys doing well the new relationships.
You would wonder, wouldn't you. You would wonder if your
wife was with you because of the money. How much
did the money sweeten the deal of you? Is it
sixty percent? You forty percent of the money. It's nice.
I like to live that way. You'd constantly be wondering,
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wouldn't you, yeah, yeah, the other or would you not
even care? Would you? There's probably guys that just don't
even care. But even if you don't care, you say
you don't care, don't you still care?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You kind of have to. I just think that would
be human nature, you'd kind of have to care. I
did think that was funny. There are some prenuptial agreements
that stipulate a spouse's specific weight must stay within twenty
pounds of what it was on the wedding day.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Or that they that's funny.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I have to exercise four times a week during marriage.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
In fact, no, are you serious? Are you? Is this real?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
One Atlanta based divorce attorney says a professional basketball player
client insisted that his pre nup agreement acknowledge quote NBA
players are known to have affairs, so cheating wouldn't trigger
any costly penalties.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Wow, go ahead and sign that one.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
See, you don't need to put the weight thing and
a prene up. You can just do what my husband does.
And every time it's meal time, he'll say, is it
time for your feed? Is it time for you to feed?
That's better. That's better than any sort of legal document
telling me I can't gain any weight.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Just ring the triangle?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Is it feed time? Ring a ling a ling?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, he makes piggy sounds at you.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I'm sure No, it's more of a move.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Okay, just pick a barn animal and I'll uh, that's
what keeps doing.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
You imagine being given a document that said you have
to work out four times a week and you can't
get what the hell I mean? That is a red
flag Lady's I don't care how much money is at stake.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
What if it's the other way around.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
What if when she wants him within twenty pounds of
his marriage wedding day, show me.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
That, show me that prenup, and I will salute her.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
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Speaker 1 (15:38):
Ooh, I love True Crime Tuesday. Good because it's so
glad I can still do this under house arrest.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
You're not under house arrest. You could leave it anytime.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Hey, you're the one who made You're the one who
spun tall tales again.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I just didn't ignore them. When I get.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Texts from our real friends and real life and they
don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I'm acting genius. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six. Forty Before there.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Was East Coast West Coast rap battles, there was East
Coast West Coast mob wars. You think about the MAFI,
you think about New York, you think about Chicago, you
think about al Capone, But Los Angeles had its own
batch of mobsters. It's where we kick off True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
The story is.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
True, sounds true?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
No, it sounds made up.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I don't know. Gary and Shannon present True Crime.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
You raised a son, I did when your son was five?
Did he know how to make gin?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
He barely knew how to make peepee. Mickey is a
kid who, at the age of five, was taught how
to make gin by his older brother, Harry. Mickey Cohen
is the name of an LA gangster that kind of pales.
(17:14):
I don't want to discount his impact, but he's not
as well known, perhaps as some of the bigger ones,
the Lucky Luciano's, the Bugsy Seagulls and things like that.
And part of it is because he was an LA
guy at least when he rose to when he rose
to prominence.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, Mickey Cohen was born in Brooklyn, but his dad
died and when he was weeks old, mom took off
to Los Angeles. A couple of years later and they
made their life in Boyle Heights, And as you mentioned,
he took to the life very quickly. He had an
older brother who was a teenager at the time when
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little Mickey was learning how to make gin at five.
He grew up around pool halls, racking balls, slipping players,
bootlegged booze. It was a life of crime, or shall
we say, a life on the take from go and
Mickey Cohen is known. I think the picture that comes
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to mind for me of Mickey Cohen is when he's
standing among what is left of his house in February
nineteen fifty and he's wearing a bathrobe and he's just
kind of casually looking at his house that had just
been essentially blown up by a rival mobster. And it's
such a cool picture because Mickey Cohen's in a bathrobe. Now,
(18:37):
what does that exude to you? To me, that exudes
I don't give an f you just tried to blow
my house up. I am not bothered enough to get
out of my bathrobe. I am not bothered enough to
change out of my slippers. I'm going to stand here
in my bathrobe and look at the damage because I
don't fear you. I am Mickey f and Cohen.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, this is the craziest of This rival tries to
sneak a bomb underneath the crawl space of Cohen's house
and the space or the bomb itself is made of
thirty sticks of dynamite. And they said it was a
weird quirk of the house that resulted in the bomb
(19:19):
not killing anybody. It was placed underneath the house, but
a cement covered vault that this guy installed ended up
diverting the blast.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
The guy's name was Tom Dragna, the rival who tried
to blow up Mickey Cohen and his house, and the
two were involved in the Sunset Wars, which was basically
a turf war in Los Angeles trying to get mob
dominance in the late forties. And this was supposed to
be a sign, but like you said, it was a
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gross miscalculation because there was that cement covered vault that
basically took the impact of the bomb.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
And that was one of eleven known assassination attempts against
this guy. He was known as LA's al Capone, and
you mentioned that he was born in Brooklyn. As he
grew up, he just always was hustling, started selling La
examiners downtown. The paper he would he struck up a
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deal with the editor the paper because he was giving
the editor bathtub gin at a time during prohibition, and
the editor would end up giving him papers that he
could then sell and keep the proceeds from.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It's funny that he started selling newspapers because he ended
up buying the newspaper people, buying the politicians, buying the cops,
buying attorney general. In fact, got an attorney How is that?
How great is that that you're a mobster running dirty
money left and right and you're able to put an
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age of your picking in that spot.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Pretty nice?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
He as a kid, learns to box, actually tries to
make a go of it, ends up in the Midwest
in Cleveland, but catches on with some of the less
than savory people who are around the boxing clubs that
he was in, and gets picked up as an enforcer
for the mob. Gets pushed over towards Chicago because they
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need some They need a tough guy in Chicago. Now
this Mickey Cohen told stories all the time, and I
mean tall tales, that kind of story all the time.
He talks about when he was in Chicago, that was
the first time he met al Capone. Well, the math
doesn't work out because al Capone was already in Alcatraz
for tax evation at the time, so there's no way
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he could have met him. But after things get out
of hand in Chicago and he's a little bit too
big for his britches, they send him back to Chicago
in the thirties and they say, hey, listen, we need
you to team up with Bugsy Siegel. So he's in
cahoots with Bugsy Seagull and basically everything from prostitution to
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gambling on the strip, the gambling ships off the coast.
All of that made Mickey Cohen into one of the
biggest gangsters in.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
La If you're interested in this storyline, I will direct
you to the nineteen ninety one major motion picture movie Bugsy.
It's a great movie from what I remember when I
was eleven and I went to go see it in
the theater. It's about Bugsy Siegull and Mickey Cohen. Warren
Beatty is Bugsy. Harvey Kaitel plays Mickey Cohen. Oh yeah,
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and it's fantastic. It's all about Los Angeles and Vegas
and like the West Coast Mafia.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I'll tell you the other movie when we come back,
specifically about Mickey Cohen, garyan.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Ch it'll watch you watch in Wednesday Primer.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
We'll continue with True Crime Tuesday when we come back.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
So uh oh is lunch done? Are you done with lunch?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I had my apple? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Okay, good.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Remember when we used to eat apples every day? Yeah,
we kind of fell out of that.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Well, you know, people were not supposed to eat apples
every day.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Do you do you still eat apples?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Oh, you eat them secretly.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
You don't need to need You don't need to know
everything that I eat. I know you shame me many
times I do.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, when have I shamed you?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
You You point at the lower half of my body
and you say things like you really think you need that?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I never have done that. I've only pointed at the
upper part of your body and said do you really
need that?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well, let me give you very thin legs.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Thank you? You get the I don't know if that's
good or bad.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
But I'm just kidding. I don't know. I don't know.
In fact, the part of your leg that I know about,
which is your calf, is not.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Then, so you don't know about my feet.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
You could have gigantic thighs and I have no idea
about them. Well, I don't know about your feet either,
and I don't know about I don't know about really
anything but your calves and your forearms.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Because that's all I show.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I got to keep it like I'm wearing magic Mormon
underpants or something.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Uh, we're telling you.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
That we're going to get in trouble for that. We
know that there's not magic Mormon underpants.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
They're not magic. Mickey Cohen format.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Is that a part of the soaking thing? Or is
it different?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
What do you mean? Is it part of it?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
The underwear and the soaking? Remember the soaking?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Is that all a thing? Like? Is there? I don't know.
Do you put on the magic underwear before you soak?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
No? I would imagine you probably took it off.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I don't think so. I think that's part of it.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
No, I don't think. I honestly have no idea. Now
you've confused me because now I'm afraid to even speculate.
Mickey Cohen, a former boxer turned local mobster here in
la Is, is detailed in a new book out. It's
called Mickey Cohen, The Life and Crimes of LA's Notorious
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Mobster and Terry Tariba. The author basically argues that Mickey
Cohen kind of didn't get his fair shake in terms
of of being as high profile as some of the
the other mobsters that we know about. For example, Mickey Cohen,
he didn't really he didn't really drink, wasn't a big smoker.
I guess ice cream was his was his vice, and
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in fact he was. He was oddly respectful and nice
in many cases to the police that were tracking him
and trailing him all day.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
He also supposedly brokeered some sort of a truce. One
of his tough guys named Johnny Stomponado was caught with
Ava Gardner, who was also having an affair with Frank
Sinatra at the time, and Mickey Cohen mediated the whole thing,
not by insisting that Johnny Stomponado give up the relationship,
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but by insisting that Frank Sinatra make amends with his
wife Nancy at the time.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Frank Sinatra and Ava Gardner. What a love story. Yeah,
what a great story that is. I think there's a
Kitty Kelly book about that. It's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
He controlled and I mentioned that, you know, all of
the things, the gambling, ships, the back room gambling on
the Sunset Strip, prostitution, all of that stuff that was
running through LA at the time, but none of that
is what really got him in trouble. It's what falls, sorry,
it's what fells. All of the big ones. Tax evasion.
In nineteen fifty one.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
He's am tax evasion.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
He's indicted for failing to pay adequate taxes on his
income one owing what would be about two point seven
million when adjusted for inflation. There were some other legal
issues that were hanging over him. Of course. To shore
up his legal defense, he took out a storefront on
the Sunset Strip in which he wrote the words Mickey
(27:13):
Cohen quits, and then auctioned off a bunch of his furniture,
a bunch of his electronics, his vintage weapons at the time.
So he does just under four years in prison for
tax evasion and he gets out and he's a new man.
But I'll put that in quotes new Man. He dresses differently,
(27:34):
he talks to young people, Hey, stay out of crime.
Begins hanging out with Billy Graham.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
How old was he when he got out.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
And died in fifty one?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Got out in fifty five and born in thirteen, so
he's in his forties.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yeah, well back then the forties were your sixties essentially.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I guess. And then he goes back to prison nineteen
sixty two. Guess what for tax EVAs evasion? And he's
released a short time later. I mentioned that there is
another movie about this guy. You mentioned Buggsy Siegel. Obviously
that concentrates on Bugsy Bugsy, but there was. There was
another movie called Gangster Squad in twenty thirteen where Sean
(28:21):
Penn plays.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Making that's a good movie. That's a good movie.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I'm a Stone. Josh Brol and Ryan Gosling in that
as well.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
When Cohen was interviewed by Mike Wallace in New York
in nineteen fifty seven, he said, I never killed a
guy who, in my way of life didn't deserve it.
I mean, in my way of life, is quite the umbrella.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
By the time he gets out, he says the world
has changed. Touring for his autobiography that he wrote he
was diagnosed with terminal cancer. A little less energetic, they said,
he still did the rounds.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
He did what he could best.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Thirty bucks you'll spend in Vegas, I promise you, hands down,
will be the Mob Museum in downtown Vegas. Best way
to spend thirty bucks in Vegas. You're in there for
a couple hours. It is such a delight. It's so
much fun to go through there and learn all the
stories and learn all the different ties. The exhibits are
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wonderful and think about all the money you're saving inside them.
I sound like I'm doing an adverse. I really enjoyed it,
and the whole time we're there, I'm thinking about how
much money I'm saving. Not at the blackjack table where
thirty dollars goes in you know five minutes. You know
thirty dollars will take you through a couple hours there.
(29:46):
So it's a lot of fun. It's a good time.
If you're playing downtown, it's walking distance.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Somebody somebody left us to talk back and said the
magic Mormon underwear is not part of soaking. Oh, I
don't know how they they know that. I don't know
how they're an expert or not, but we're.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Going to get a lot about that. And that was
by design great.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I appreciate it. Since I want to.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Go and I like to call payback for all the
feedback I got from my suspension. Please mark tail us
up on the talk back at and tell us how
to soep.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Mark Thompson is in for John.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Always love to hear Shannonsville.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I'm sure she's always has never been spoken.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I love her in this mood. You know, you can
get her into that mood pretty quickly. You just did
to crank it over a little bit before you know what.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
She's there.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Uh well, uh, I am another day of doing the
call Belt show and we'll talk about everything. The big
beautiful bill getting dragged across the Senate, the finish line
in the Senate, you know, the the plea deal in Idaho,
which is the family of many of the victims of
that murderer not happy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yeah, we were trying to We're speculating as to what
the prosecutors were even thinking that they would do that without.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Comsultignify black some sort of evidence for a super tight case.
And don't want to be looking like a fool on
that kind of platform. Now at that stage, I see.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. It's they're always
looking if they can a plea deal, like this is
an easy book for w you know what I mean.
The guy's never going to get out of jail. What's
interesting to me is that the family is so the
families are so angry. I mean, uh, this guy will
be incarcerated forever. You know, he'll never see the light
of day. But they clearly wanted more than this, right,
(31:37):
they want more.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
There's part of it. Yeah, I think there's part of
it too, where they want to face off with him
in court every day. Yeah, there's got to be an
appetite for that when you're so when you're when your
kid is is slaughtered like that at that time of
their life, Like, there's just got to be an appetite
for No, I want to be in the same room
as you. I want you to be held accountable every day.
(31:58):
I want you to hear about what you did to
my dog, all of those things.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yeah, it's funny. I was saying that to Ray in
the hallway that I think that it has to be that,
because otherwise it just doesn't square. So yeah, I think
you're right about that. Anyway, we'll talk about that and more.
There's more happening in the law, the Sean Combs case
and a racketeering there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Well, it sounds like a lot of fun on your shoe.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I know, I know. I want to Mark Thompson.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Jeez, Mark promised John somehow, Yes you do. We'll see
you tomorrow. Stay dry, everybody, blessings.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show, you
can always hear us live on kf I AM six
forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,
and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio ap
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. They're making the Devilwar's product sequel. Yeah,
when did you hear about this?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Well, I thought that I wouldn't be the first, but
I saw it over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
And you did not text me that girling full Well.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
You were playing John Muir, you were doing your little
cosplay thing.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
What do you want me to do?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
A text would have been nice. Hey, Shannon, they're doing
a sequel to the Devilwar's.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Praduc Oh, that's not going to be something.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
That's not what I go to you for. No, No, Well,
you sent all the stuff about that the girl married
to Harry what is her name?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Harry? Oh, Magan Markle.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, you send me those updates all the time.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Well, nine dollars is a lot for a jar jam.
For goodness sake, it is a lie.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Oh my god, I heard you do that accent, the
mother accent yesterday and I almost drove off the road.
I loved it so much. It's so good.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
We've somebody else mentioned that it was Bobby Bonia Day
today and if you haven't seen this story.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
This is really fantastic.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Sixty two year old Bobby Bonia, former baseball player. He
gets a check from the New York Mets every July
First for one point one nine million dollars. He first
signed with the Mets in nineteen ninety one, at the
time the richest contract five years and twenty nine million dollars.
And then it was his contract during the second stint
(01:46):
with the Mets that caused the issue. He went from
the Mets to the Orioles, traded signed a four year
deal with that with the Marlins before the ninety seven season,
traded to the Dodgers, and the Mike Piazza deal traded
back to the Mets for two years eleven point Anyway,
he kind of fell off. He just got old, and
(02:06):
the Mets eventually bought out the rest of the deal
January of two thousand, but to do so, they agreed
to defer the remaining five point nine million dollars with
eight percent interest spread across twenty eleven through twenty thirty five.
So he gets one point one nine million dollars every
(02:27):
July first until twenty thirty five. On top of the
eight the five hundred thousand dollars he gets every year
from the Orioles and hasn't played for twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
You should have spent more time out at the old
Diamond practicing what I'm saying, I.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Apparently should have.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
What else is going on? Time four?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
What's happening?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Man? It is hot in Europe, dangerous conditions. Historic sites
shut down. This is a problem in Europe when they
get temperature like we do. Because they don't have air conditioning.
They have, you know, swamp coolers. Maybe this is a
heat wive with one hundred degree temps across a Europe.
(03:11):
They've closed schools and they say that this is the
hottest month of June. Ever, France issued a red alert today,
warned of severe health impacts as the temperature reached one
hundred and four. They anticipate that today will be among
the ten hottest days ever in France. Ever, Ever, the
(03:33):
Eiffel Tower had to close its top floor. It had
to shorten its hours, turn people away who didn't have
advanced tickets. Why, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Because it's hotter at the top or something.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I have no idea. In Belgium, temperatures reached the high nineties.
They had to close the atomium attraction, the model of
the iron molecule built for the fifty nine Brussels World Fair. Gosh,
it's so funny between the Eiffel Tower and the antonium attract.
(04:08):
I mean, that's apples and oranges, isn't it? For am?
I just being a dumb dumb I've never heard of
this iron molecule attraction, have you?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
The Senate has passed President Trump's signature domestic policy bill,
the One Big Beautiful Bill, setting the final vote, setting
the stage for a final vote in the House. The
final vote today fifty one to fifty. It was fifty
to fifty, but Vice President Jady Vance came in and
broke the tie. We've told you that Tom Tillis in
North Carolina, Ran Paul of Kentucky, and Susan Collins of Maine,
(04:43):
the three Republicans who voted against this. The President said
he wants it on his desk by July fourth. We're
not quite sure if in fact that will happen.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Who wants a jumpstart on their summer weight loss plans?
I can give you seven places to go that will
do just that for you. Because the La County Department
of Public Health is cautioning people against the Seven Beaches.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Woop cruise.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
You're going to get the Shagela. You're going to get
the poop cruise. Ramirez Creek at Paradise Cove, you know
where that is. It is often a fender. The bel
Air Bay Club at Will Roger State Beach is another.
Feces in the foam situation. Mother's Beach in Marina del Rey.
I wouldn't wash my shoes in that place. Windward storm
(05:28):
drain at Venice Beach. Oh, come on, kids, let's go
play in the storm drain castle Rock storm drain at
Tipega County Beach, Santa Monica Pier as you mentioned, and
enter Cabrio Beach in San.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Pedro, the entire swim area.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
You want to get a little feces, you want to
drop six pounds by the fourth check them out.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
There was a piece of legislation the governor knew some
signed yesterday, is going to roll back some of the
state's landmark environmental laws for urban residential developments. They said
that this is arguably the big u guest move from
SEQUAB the California Environmental Quality Act basically since it came
(06:08):
into effect fifty five years ago. Many have argued that
the law has been weaponized to block new housing projects
and development, and the governor is again adding his resume
to run as a relative moderate. When he does so,
coming up in the next couple of several.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Months, Starbucks is going to maybe get some competition, dare
I say from China? Now? If China comes for Starbucks,
that will be how a war is begun, because people
who are Starbucks people are very serious about it. And
(06:48):
if this Chinese coffee chain it's called Luckin Coffee expands
into the United States offering the lower cost alternative, I
don't know. I think that there's going to be a
real civil war that goes on here. Luckin Coffee debut
in twenty seventeen. They offer coffee drinks at prices roughly
thirty percent lower than Starbucks.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Oh, and they're popular with the kids in China. There
are more Luckins than Starbucks, you might imagine. But right
now Luckin is opening its first walk in stores in
New York. They say that they have streamlined operations and
the competitive pricing that they've seen that you mentioned.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It would be nice if Starbucks get a little wake
up call and did not charge as much as they do.
It's insane and I prefer.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I don't know if you heard me say yesterday that
wife and I were in Malibu over the weekend and
they had a Starbucks. You got to walk past the
Starbucks to get to the local coffee shop. But if
there's a choice between the two, ILL always take the
local one.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Did you just go to Malibu for fun or was
there an event or just for fun?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I mean, we just look at you.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I like this.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I've read the.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Stories that they were hurting for business. So we went
there and grabbed lunch. Oh cool, beautiful, beautiful day. Awful,
awful destruction that still exists and is still very evident
from the fires.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, I finally got enough shower in the last break.
I like this working from home thing. You can just
sit here and smell for a couple hours before you
get around it to a shower.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Wait, you took a shower in the commercial break.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, Debra was doing the news.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I bored you that much.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Huh No, It's just I thought I heard your voice
and I go, oh, I need to take a shower
before the earthquake.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
There you gosh.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
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pre nuptial agreements. We come back.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty prenuptial agreement.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Nothing more romantic than saying, I don't think this is
going to last.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Do you want to live with me forever?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Well, people like to protect themselves. They like to protect
against Every story starts off in love, right. You look
at marriages, You've been to weddings. Everyone starts off happy,
but you also know the stories about divorce. Something happens.
So there is a little air of your betting on
us to fail. But on the other hand, it's well,
(09:39):
I'm betting to so that I'm protected in the event
that the switch flips and you want to take my
pension or what have you. Jeff Bezos and Mackenzie Scott
when they divorced in twenty nineteen, they did not have
a prenuptial agreement to govern the division of of their assets.
(10:01):
Now to your point that you made yesterday. When Jeff
Bezos got started, he was an everyman and he wasn't
the kind of guy who would have ordered a prenup. Right. Well,
he's a very different person now. He's not that guy
that drove the eighty seven civic to work in Seattle.
He's the guy who has a fifty million dollar wedding
(10:21):
or upwards of that, depending on who you ask. So
the first wife got a steak in Amazon dot Com
valued at thirty five billion dollars. Now the talk is
what kind of prenup did you put in place this
go around?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, because you I mean, not that she's been with
him the whole time, but I mean, Lauren Sanchez is
not going to turn around and divorce the guy and
immediately get half of what he has. One of the
things that he's got is probably a building full of
lawyers that would be able to fight that. But the
other very high profile divorce that happened within the last
(10:58):
couple of years was Bill and Milline the Gates, and
she didn't get as much. I think she got two billions,
and it's a lot to laugh at, right, two billion?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
How is she going to survive?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
But she came I think if I read this correctly,
she also controlled about twelve billion when it came to
the Billain Melindigate's foundation, and was not that she used
the money for herself, but that she was in control
of that twelve billion, so she got to decide where
that that stuff goes.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
The problem with prenups, Oh, go ahead, I.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Was just gonna say, the problem with having that much
money is a lot of times it comes with you're
not talking about gold, the balloons stuck in the basement somewhere.
It's a lot of things that take a lot of
legal disentanglement before it can actually be distributed to different people.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Prenups can include sunset clauses onunder which the agreement expires
after ten or twenty years, which is a way to
acknowledge that long marriages grow into genuine partnerships that after
ten or twenty years, if we last ten or twenty
years been great, then I been I'm betting on us. Essentially,
(12:18):
these days, they say ultra wealthy clients increasingly prefer stepped agreements.
So a spouse might receive five million if there's a
divorce after five years of marriage, but if you stick
with them for ten you get twenty million. Now, that
would just be in the back of my mind. That
would be in the back of my mind. You know,
is my wife or husband staying with me for ten
(12:42):
years just to get half of whatever? Or you know,
once you think, once you think about that, if you
if you had a bunch of money like these two
jeff Bezos and Bill Gates. They I'm assuming they married
their first people when they were nothing.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I wouldn't say nothing.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Well, they showed great promise, but they didn't have gazillions
of dollars.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
They didn't have two hundred billion.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
No.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, they're just really smart guys doing well the new relationships.
You would wonder, wouldn't you. You would wonder if your
wife was with you because of the money. How much
did the money sweeten the deal of you? Is it
sixty percent? You forty percent of the money. It's nice.
I like to live that way. You'd constantly be wondering,
(13:29):
wouldn't you, yeah, yeah, the other or would you not
even care? Would you? There's probably guys that just don't
even care. But even if you don't care, you say
you don't care, don't you still care?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You kind of have to. I just think that would
be human nature, you'd kind of have to care. I
did think that was funny. There are some prenuptial agreements
that stipulate a spouse's specific weight must stay within twenty
pounds of what it was on the wedding day.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Or that they that's funny.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I have to exercise four times a week during marriage.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
In fact, no, are you serious? Are you? Is this real?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
One Atlanta based divorce attorney says a professional basketball player
client insisted that his pre nup agreement acknowledge quote NBA
players are known to have affairs, so cheating wouldn't trigger
any costly penalties.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Wow, go ahead and sign that one.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
See, you don't need to put the weight thing and
a prene up. You can just do what my husband does.
And every time it's meal time, he'll say, is it
time for your feed? Is it time for you to feed?
That's better. That's better than any sort of legal document
telling me I can't gain any weight.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Just ring the triangle?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Is it feed time? Ring a ling a ling?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, he makes piggy sounds at you.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I'm sure No, it's more of a move.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Okay, just pick a barn animal and I'll uh, that's
what keeps doing.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
You imagine being given a document that said you have
to work out four times a week and you can't
get what the hell I mean? That is a red
flag Lady's I don't care how much money is at stake.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
What if it's the other way around.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
What if when she wants him within twenty pounds of
his marriage wedding day, show me.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
That, show me that prenup, and I will salute her.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Tonight the Dodgers taken on the White Sox at Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
First pitch is going to be at seven.
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Speaker 1 (15:38):
Ooh, I love True Crime Tuesday. Good because it's so
glad I can still do this under house arrest.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
You're not under house arrest. You could leave it anytime.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Hey, you're the one who made You're the one who
spun tall tales again.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I just didn't ignore them. When I get.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Texts from our real friends and real life and they
don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I'm acting genius. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six. Forty Before there.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Was East Coast West Coast rap battles, there was East
Coast West Coast mob wars. You think about the MAFI,
you think about New York, you think about Chicago, you
think about al Capone, But Los Angeles had its own
batch of mobsters. It's where we kick off True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
The story is.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
True, sounds true?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
No, it sounds made up.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I don't know. Gary and Shannon present True Crime.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
You raised a son, I did when your son was five?
Did he know how to make gin?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
He barely knew how to make peepee. Mickey is a
kid who, at the age of five, was taught how
to make gin by his older brother, Harry. Mickey Cohen
is the name of an LA gangster that kind of pales.
(17:14):
I don't want to discount his impact, but he's not
as well known, perhaps as some of the bigger ones,
the Lucky Luciano's, the Bugsy Seagulls and things like that.
And part of it is because he was an LA
guy at least when he rose to when he rose
to prominence.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, Mickey Cohen was born in Brooklyn, but his dad
died and when he was weeks old, mom took off
to Los Angeles. A couple of years later and they
made their life in Boyle Heights, And as you mentioned,
he took to the life very quickly. He had an
older brother who was a teenager at the time when
(17:51):
little Mickey was learning how to make gin at five.
He grew up around pool halls, racking balls, slipping players,
bootlegged booze. It was a life of crime, or shall
we say, a life on the take from go and
Mickey Cohen is known. I think the picture that comes
(18:13):
to mind for me of Mickey Cohen is when he's
standing among what is left of his house in February
nineteen fifty and he's wearing a bathrobe and he's just
kind of casually looking at his house that had just
been essentially blown up by a rival mobster. And it's
such a cool picture because Mickey Cohen's in a bathrobe. Now,
(18:37):
what does that exude to you? To me, that exudes
I don't give an f you just tried to blow
my house up. I am not bothered enough to get
out of my bathrobe. I am not bothered enough to
change out of my slippers. I'm going to stand here
in my bathrobe and look at the damage because I
don't fear you. I am Mickey f and Cohen.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, this is the craziest of This rival tries to
sneak a bomb underneath the crawl space of Cohen's house
and the space or the bomb itself is made of
thirty sticks of dynamite. And they said it was a
weird quirk of the house that resulted in the bomb
(19:19):
not killing anybody. It was placed underneath the house, but
a cement covered vault that this guy installed ended up
diverting the blast.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
The guy's name was Tom Dragna, the rival who tried
to blow up Mickey Cohen and his house, and the
two were involved in the Sunset Wars, which was basically
a turf war in Los Angeles trying to get mob
dominance in the late forties. And this was supposed to
be a sign, but like you said, it was a
(19:52):
gross miscalculation because there was that cement covered vault that
basically took the impact of the bomb.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
And that was one of eleven known assassination attempts against
this guy. He was known as LA's al Capone, and
you mentioned that he was born in Brooklyn. As he
grew up, he just always was hustling, started selling La
examiners downtown. The paper he would he struck up a
(20:21):
deal with the editor the paper because he was giving
the editor bathtub gin at a time during prohibition, and
the editor would end up giving him papers that he
could then sell and keep the proceeds from.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It's funny that he started selling newspapers because he ended
up buying the newspaper people, buying the politicians, buying the cops,
buying attorney general. In fact, got an attorney How is that?
How great is that that you're a mobster running dirty
money left and right and you're able to put an
(20:55):
age of your picking in that spot.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Pretty nice?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
He as a kid, learns to box, actually tries to
make a go of it, ends up in the Midwest
in Cleveland, but catches on with some of the less
than savory people who are around the boxing clubs that
he was in, and gets picked up as an enforcer
for the mob. Gets pushed over towards Chicago because they
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need some They need a tough guy in Chicago. Now
this Mickey Cohen told stories all the time, and I
mean tall tales, that kind of story all the time.
He talks about when he was in Chicago, that was
the first time he met al Capone. Well, the math
doesn't work out because al Capone was already in Alcatraz
for tax evation at the time, so there's no way
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he could have met him. But after things get out
of hand in Chicago and he's a little bit too
big for his britches, they send him back to Chicago
in the thirties and they say, hey, listen, we need
you to team up with Bugsy Siegel. So he's in
cahoots with Bugsy Seagull and basically everything from prostitution to
(22:04):
gambling on the strip, the gambling ships off the coast.
All of that made Mickey Cohen into one of the
biggest gangsters in.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
La If you're interested in this storyline, I will direct
you to the nineteen ninety one major motion picture movie Bugsy.
It's a great movie from what I remember when I
was eleven and I went to go see it in
the theater. It's about Bugsy Siegull and Mickey Cohen. Warren
Beatty is Bugsy. Harvey Kaitel plays Mickey Cohen. Oh yeah,
(22:34):
and it's fantastic. It's all about Los Angeles and Vegas
and like the West Coast Mafia.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I'll tell you the other movie when we come back,
specifically about Mickey Cohen, garyan.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Ch it'll watch you watch in Wednesday Primer.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
We'll continue with True Crime Tuesday when we come back.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
So uh oh is lunch done? Are you done with lunch?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I had my apple? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Okay, good.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Remember when we used to eat apples every day? Yeah,
we kind of fell out of that.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Well, you know, people were not supposed to eat apples
every day.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Do you do you still eat apples?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Oh, you eat them secretly.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
You don't need to need You don't need to know
everything that I eat. I know you shame me many
times I do.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, when have I shamed you?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
You You point at the lower half of my body
and you say things like you really think you need that?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I never have done that. I've only pointed at the
upper part of your body and said do you really
need that?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well, let me give you very thin legs.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Thank you? You get the I don't know if that's
good or bad.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
But I'm just kidding. I don't know. I don't know.
In fact, the part of your leg that I know about,
which is your calf, is not.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Then, so you don't know about my feet.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
You could have gigantic thighs and I have no idea
about them. Well, I don't know about your feet either,
and I don't know about I don't know about really
anything but your calves and your forearms.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Because that's all I show.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I got to keep it like I'm wearing magic Mormon
underpants or something.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Uh, we're telling you.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
That we're going to get in trouble for that. We
know that there's not magic Mormon underpants.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
They're not magic. Mickey Cohen format.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Is that a part of the soaking thing? Or is
it different?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
What do you mean? Is it part of it?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
The underwear and the soaking? Remember the soaking?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Is that all a thing? Like? Is there? I don't know.
Do you put on the magic underwear before you soak?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
No? I would imagine you probably took it off.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I don't think so. I think that's part of it.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
No, I don't think. I honestly have no idea. Now
you've confused me because now I'm afraid to even speculate.
Mickey Cohen, a former boxer turned local mobster here in
la Is, is detailed in a new book out. It's
called Mickey Cohen, The Life and Crimes of LA's Notorious
(25:16):
Mobster and Terry Tariba. The author basically argues that Mickey
Cohen kind of didn't get his fair shake in terms
of of being as high profile as some of the
the other mobsters that we know about. For example, Mickey Cohen,
he didn't really he didn't really drink, wasn't a big smoker.
I guess ice cream was his was his vice, and
(25:40):
in fact he was. He was oddly respectful and nice
in many cases to the police that were tracking him
and trailing him all day.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
He also supposedly brokeered some sort of a truce. One
of his tough guys named Johnny Stomponado was caught with
Ava Gardner, who was also having an affair with Frank
Sinatra at the time, and Mickey Cohen mediated the whole thing,
not by insisting that Johnny Stomponado give up the relationship,
(26:12):
but by insisting that Frank Sinatra make amends with his
wife Nancy at the time.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Frank Sinatra and Ava Gardner. What a love story. Yeah,
what a great story that is. I think there's a
Kitty Kelly book about that. It's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
He controlled and I mentioned that, you know, all of
the things, the gambling, ships, the back room gambling on
the Sunset Strip, prostitution, all of that stuff that was
running through LA at the time, but none of that
is what really got him in trouble. It's what falls, sorry,
it's what fells. All of the big ones. Tax evasion.
In nineteen fifty one.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
He's am tax evasion.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
He's indicted for failing to pay adequate taxes on his
income one owing what would be about two point seven
million when adjusted for inflation. There were some other legal
issues that were hanging over him. Of course. To shore
up his legal defense, he took out a storefront on
the Sunset Strip in which he wrote the words Mickey
(27:13):
Cohen quits, and then auctioned off a bunch of his furniture,
a bunch of his electronics, his vintage weapons at the time.
So he does just under four years in prison for
tax evasion and he gets out and he's a new man.
But I'll put that in quotes new Man. He dresses differently,
(27:34):
he talks to young people, Hey, stay out of crime.
Begins hanging out with Billy Graham.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
How old was he when he got out.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
And died in fifty one?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Got out in fifty five and born in thirteen, so
he's in his forties.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yeah, well back then the forties were your sixties essentially.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I guess. And then he goes back to prison nineteen
sixty two. Guess what for tax EVAs evasion? And he's
released a short time later. I mentioned that there is
another movie about this guy. You mentioned Buggsy Siegel. Obviously
that concentrates on Bugsy Bugsy, but there was. There was
another movie called Gangster Squad in twenty thirteen where Sean
(28:21):
Penn plays.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Making that's a good movie. That's a good movie.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I'm a Stone. Josh Brol and Ryan Gosling in that
as well.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
When Cohen was interviewed by Mike Wallace in New York
in nineteen fifty seven, he said, I never killed a
guy who, in my way of life didn't deserve it.
I mean, in my way of life, is quite the umbrella.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
By the time he gets out, he says the world
has changed. Touring for his autobiography that he wrote he
was diagnosed with terminal cancer. A little less energetic, they said,
he still did the rounds.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
He did what he could best.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Thirty bucks you'll spend in Vegas, I promise you, hands down,
will be the Mob Museum in downtown Vegas. Best way
to spend thirty bucks in Vegas. You're in there for
a couple hours. It is such a delight. It's so
much fun to go through there and learn all the
stories and learn all the different ties. The exhibits are
(29:25):
wonderful and think about all the money you're saving inside them.
I sound like I'm doing an adverse. I really enjoyed it,
and the whole time we're there, I'm thinking about how
much money I'm saving. Not at the blackjack table where
thirty dollars goes in you know five minutes. You know
thirty dollars will take you through a couple hours there.
(29:46):
So it's a lot of fun. It's a good time.
If you're playing downtown, it's walking distance.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Somebody somebody left us to talk back and said the
magic Mormon underwear is not part of soaking. Oh, I
don't know how they they know that. I don't know
how they're an expert or not, but we're.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Going to get a lot about that. And that was
by design great.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I appreciate it. Since I want to.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Go and I like to call payback for all the
feedback I got from my suspension. Please mark tail us
up on the talk back at and tell us how
to soep.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Mark Thompson is in for John.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Always love to hear Shannonsville.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I'm sure she's always has never been spoken.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I love her in this mood. You know, you can
get her into that mood pretty quickly. You just did
to crank it over a little bit before you know what.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
She's there.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Uh well, uh, I am another day of doing the
call Belt show and we'll talk about everything. The big
beautiful bill getting dragged across the Senate, the finish line
in the Senate, you know, the the plea deal in Idaho,
which is the family of many of the victims of
that murderer not happy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yeah, we were trying to We're speculating as to what
the prosecutors were even thinking that they would do that without.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Comsultignify black some sort of evidence for a super tight case.
And don't want to be looking like a fool on
that kind of platform. Now at that stage, I see.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. It's they're always
looking if they can a plea deal, like this is
an easy book for w you know what I mean.
The guy's never going to get out of jail. What's
interesting to me is that the family is so the
families are so angry. I mean, uh, this guy will
be incarcerated forever. You know, he'll never see the light
of day. But they clearly wanted more than this, right,
(31:37):
they want more.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
There's part of it. Yeah, I think there's part of
it too, where they want to face off with him
in court every day. Yeah, there's got to be an
appetite for that when you're so when you're when your
kid is is slaughtered like that at that time of
their life, Like, there's just got to be an appetite
for No, I want to be in the same room
as you. I want you to be held accountable every day.
(31:58):
I want you to hear about what you did to
my dog, all of those things.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yeah, it's funny. I was saying that to Ray in
the hallway that I think that it has to be that,
because otherwise it just doesn't square. So yeah, I think
you're right about that. Anyway, we'll talk about that and more.
There's more happening in the law, the Sean Combs case
and a racketeering there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Well, it sounds like a lot of fun on your shoe.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I know, I know. I want to Mark Thompson.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Jeez, Mark promised John somehow, Yes you do. We'll see
you tomorrow. Stay dry, everybody, blessings.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
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