January 8, 2026 • 35 mins
Gary & Shannon break down the latest turn in the Reiner case after Alan Jackson exits and a public defender steps in, delaying the next hearing. They also discuss claims that Gen Z’s use of therapy language is being perceived as rude, the need for balance between boundaries and real-world community, updates from Governor Newsom’s on-going final State of the State address, and a developing NASA situation involving a potential medical evacuation from the space station.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
All right, it's not just one official Gary and Shannon
AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. The
Associated Press says Minneapolis is on edge.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
This is after the.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Shooting of a woman by an Immigration Customs enforcement officer yesterday.
Protesters gathered today outside of a federal building that has
been a base of operation for federal agents in Minneapolis.
They shouted the clean things they shouted was no more Ice.
Governor's Waltz of Minnesota has demanded that the state be
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allowed to take part in the investigation. As of right now.
Christy Noam said that Minnesota authorities don't have any jurisdiction
that may be an issue. The FBI is likely involved
or is likely the lead agency, because it was a
federal agent that was involved in the shooting, but it
did take place in the streets of Minneapolis, so Minneapolis PD,
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even the Minneapolis state law enforcement agencies could be involved
as well well.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
The news came down yesterday as our show was beginning
that high profile defense attorney Alan Jackson was off the
case of Nick Reiner. Nick Reiner famously stabbing and killing
his parents to death in their home in Brentwood. Now
it has appeared that they are going to be going
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all in with this not guilty by reason of insanity
type defense. He has been diagnosed in the past with
schizophrenia adjacent disorders. He had been on a number of medications,
and by all accounts, the doctors were trying to figure
out the medications. Whether you know, if you have ever
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had anyone in your life. I have not, but that
I know of, But I've read enough to know that
that can be a very tenuous time in somebody's life
when they are going through mental health issues and the
meds are not where they need to be. That it's
a it's a definite balancing act there, almost like it's
a constant it's a constant calibrate recalibration. So now I'm
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not saying that that is why he killed his parents.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I'm not saying he's innocent. I'm not saying he's guilty.
What have you? It is, it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
And again, a mental health illness is not a defense
by the law. They do have to prove that in
the moment, he did not know right from wrong. So
and again, like I said yesterday, I think there's some
hurdles are going to face with that.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Number One, he left the house.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Number two, he ditched his clothes, he checked into a hotel,
He did all the things that seemed to be you
are evading from the bad thing that you know you
just did. But that's neither here and over there. The
question is why did Alan Jackson leave the case. Alan
Jackson charges an s ton of money. I read somewhere
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yesterday it's got to be a seven figure retainer for
a case like this, seven figure retainer.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Now, obviously the.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Ryers and that's just the retainer, that's just the opening price.
Then you've got to pay hourly for a guy who's
what six seven, eight hundred dodds.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I mean, well, that goes into the retainer.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's pay this chunk of money
and then hopefully it'll cover it. But if it doesn't,
you know, then we'll start tacking it on overtime. Yeah.
So obviously the Rhiners have tons of money. I don't
want to say obviously, but obviously they had some sort
of trust for the family.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
These are two successful people.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
They've got simply, they've got three kids, right, there's three.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Kids, correct. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
So some people have said that there may have been
a trust for each child. Each child gets a portion
of the money that's already been that's decided upon in
the trust.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
That that's one way to do it.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
That might just not be one pot of money in
the trust, that each child is assigned X amount of
dollars in the trust. Now, if let's say the siblings
and I don't know who made the phone call to
Alan Jackson, he says he got the call December fifteenth,
and from that point on he dropped everything and every
waking hour was spent in defense of Nick Reiner. And
on this case that he Alan Jackson made no bones
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about it. If one thing was clear, he was all
in on this case. He was going to do this
as a high of course, he was. This is what
you hope for as a defense attorney, a mental illness
case in liberal California, liberal Los Angeles. The two murdered
people were innocence project type people.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I mean, this is perfect. Alan Jackson wanted this case.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Now, usually when a high profile attorney falls through, it's
a money problem.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
And you're thinking, well, how can it be a money problem?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I feel like there's something in here where they were
going to use Nick Reiner's own inheritance to pay for
his defense, and legally or by the rules of the trust,
they may not be able to do that.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I saw it.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I saw it referred to as a slayer clause where
somebody and again it depends on how their trust was
was written and put together, and if it was divided
among the kids, that you can't use even before they're
convicted of murder, you are not able to use that
money in the defense of somebody accused of them, right.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
And I also think it's quite likely you know that
the other siblings would not want to spend their own
trust money in defense of their brother who killed their parents.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I can see why.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
It's a very complicated matter and probably there were a
lot of uncomfortable conversations in the Rhiner family about this.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Can you be can you request a public defender even
if you have the finances to pay for a attorney,
so that could We talked about it yesterday. I thought
your idea that this could potentially be a defense tactic
of unloading the high profile lawyer and going with a
public defender, granted, one with what is it, twenty years
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experience on the job. It's not like she's new to
this whole thing, and she's probably good at her job
if she's been there for nineteen years. But the idea
that could also be potentially a tactic.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Well, it makes less of a circus of the whole thing.
It's going to be a circus anyway, But when you
throw Alan Jackson into the mix, you have an attorney
who's going to run before every microphone and keep this
thing on the front page as opposed to the backpage.
He is going to make sure he gets his money's
worth with the visibility of a case like this. You
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take him away and suddenly not as many people are
paying attention. You know, you have Alan Jackson running out
to a microphone. You probably have the DA of La
County running out to a microphone as well. He would
have to he would have to match wits with Alan Jackson,
which makes it front page news all the time. That
means everyone's got an opinion about this defense. The fewer
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people paying attention probably the best for the defense. I
would think.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, the arrangement from yesterday obviously scuttled because of this
change in attorneys, and they have rescheduled it for February
twenty third, which is, of course when we're going to
talk about it again. Gen Z may be selfish. There's
been the rise in therapy talk. Is this driving this
selfishness when it comes to gen Z, we'll talk about
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that we come back.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
How do these people have enough for therapy? Therapy is expensive?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I mean they have enough for these ten dollars coffees
every day and therapy.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I had a coffee yesterday and it was seven dollars.
That's insane. Somewhere my father and grandfather and their grandfathers,
they don't they have killed you.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
You're dead to them, and looking at me, they are
dead and you're dead to them.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Say a word. They just turned away.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, they can't even look at you.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
No suspects identified yet. Two people were killed in a
shooting in Salt Lake City last night.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
At a funeral at a funeral.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Apparently the funerals for a guy from here in southern California,
but the funeral was at a church in Salt Lake
City last night, six people injured, three of them said
to be in critical condition, and then the two people
who were killed. As of right now, police in Salt
Lake City say they do not believe they believe it
was targeted, so that they say there's no a known
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threat to the public, no further danger.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
State of the State.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Governor Newsom is going to get his State of the
State address coming up a few minutes. As a matter
of fact, first time in five years that he'll actually
do it in front of people. He'd been doing a
bunch of video versions because everybody was terrified of COVID.
And a little bit later this hour, by the way,
we're going to talk about a potential NASA emergence, the
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evacuation of the International Space Station.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Oh, there is an.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
As you evacuate here, that's the only one direction. Okay, Uh,
they're an unspecified medical issue involving an unspecified astronaut. May
mean that they have to bring that person home in
order for treatment. I wonder what it is, pregnancy? Pregnancy? No,
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why not think they're banging around up there? Could or
maybe they were banging around before they left.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
That would be very irresponsible to get pregnant in the
space station.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I would argue that that's the last thing it is.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
It's a possibility, you know, just because you like to
think about astronauts banging around and the space station doesn't
make my niche. So that's what i's that's your kink,
astronauts to the space station.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Never mind this.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
This is a term in this article that I found
most interesting that this gen Z gen Z is likely
the most therapy and mental health literate generation in history.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Well, the stigma is gone, there is I believe it
started with my generation whatever that is, millennial what have
you where there were a lot of young women my
age that were very much into psychology. I felt like
everyone was a psychology major for a little bit in
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the early two thousands, and there was still a little
bit of a stigma there. It seemed like they weren't
going to be therapists, but they were intrigued by psychology.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I forgot a degree in psychology. There you go.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
My cousin is a generation behind me, and she is
a therapist and a lot of her friends are therapists.
She does the majority of her therapy work are zoom call,
which is now the new way to get therapy. You
hear it all the time on podcasts on the radio,
therapy right on your phone, therapy that's bite sized or
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that is affordable therapy for you, whatever you can pay
kind of a thing. It's become more accessible than ever.
You're no longer going to a middle aged woman with
oversized glasses and a couch in some sort of you know,
victorian home outside of town. Like it's everywhere. It's on
your phone, and as soon as you can put something
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on your phone, people are going to use it. And
now therapy is on your phone.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
This knowledge of therapy, this knowledge of mental health, and
all of the words and key phrases and practices that
go along with it, can be misused, and this article
suggests that. Jamille Zaki, for example, professor of psychology at Stanford,
says that using terms like protect your peace or you
don't owe anyone any thing, when used outside of a
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clinical setting, can justify people being selfish. Zaki says the
use of therapy speak to justify being non committal socially,
or being withdrawn socially, or having the right to withdraw
socially can be very hurtful.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
But I think that a lot of people feel like
they need to do certain things that they don't really
need to do. What do you mean you don't suffer
from this? You're not a people pleaser. Oh I would disagree,
but go on, I'll let you.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
No, I realized I just displeased you when I said that.
It bothers me.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
No, there's a difference between being considerate and aware of
being considerate to people and feeling like you need to
people please because.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
You're not good enough or what have you.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Okay, I don't feelk that you are that person that
you're like like me, like me, like me, because you
don't think that you're good enough inside. Like that's a
very big difference. You're a considerate person. You're going to
do things probably that you don't want to do all
the time for other people because it's for other people
and it'll benefit them.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
That's you.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
There are people that are people pleasers, that are like me,
like me, like me, because they feel inadequate for whatever
reason for themselves. That is the advice for that person.
You don't owe anything to anybody. You are enough, like
I get that therapy speak that leaves a therapists room sometimes,
I think is why, especially bite size like that.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, it's very helpful, but they're easier. It's easier to
do a bite size post on Instagram than it is
to do a full therapy session.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, I don't know. I've never been to therapy, so
I don't know. I really should sit this one out.
I don't know how beneficial or how great it is.
I don't I dump all my crap on my girlfriends.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Which is in itself its own form of therapy. Yes, yes,
but the also there's also you don't have an expectation
that they're going to be able to fix things for
you necessarily.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Now, I mean your form.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Of therapy if probably just getting it out. I mean
a lot of times, just the process of explaining a
situation verbally in front of somebody, yes, can help you
galvanize what it is that's going on in your head. Yes,
right so, And I think people who do that are lucky,
or have that ability, are very lucky.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
If all you had to do was get out those
words in front of mine.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Some people they need to get it out, but then
they need someone else to help kind of reorganize, you know,
arrange the perspective kind of thing so that they can
figure out whatever their problem or issue is, right, but
this idea, I mean, my kids are both My kids
both need alone time. They are cave people, but they
also know that they have to be social and there
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are times when whether it's dealing with I mean they
neither of them have jobs where they have to deal
with customers necessarily, but they do have to deal with coworkers,
and they do have to deal with management. And in
the event that they are out and about in us
social situation they go to a restaurant or bar or something,
they do have to deal with people. But that they
both also have said that they need time away alone
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I get it and recharge and be quiet and not
have to put themselves out there so that they can
have the energy, et cetera when they're.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Out exactly in public. That's an important balance. I just
I don't have a loane time. It is not good.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I do not like this idea.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Later on in the article, it talks about how we've
lost the village, Like everybody wants a village, but nobody
wants to be the villager. Everybody wants to have a community,
but a lot of us are fall very short of
actually fostering that community. How many times do we think
to ourselves. You know, I'd love to be a better friend,
but I don't really want to go to call. I
don't want to call. I don't want to do the thing.
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I just rather sit on my butt. The couch is calling.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
The couch is always the better community as humans.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
You well, And the thing I think you hit on
is the balance.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
That's what's key. Yeah, is Yeah, have your alone time.
It's necessary for everybody. Some need it more so than others.
But we do need to have face to face conversations.
And it doesn't need to be a big deal. You know,
you don't need to have like you know, like it
can be just a cup of coffee with a friend.
You know, it can be coming into work and talking
to a bonehead for four hours, because that's what your
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job is, you know it concern are you?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Are you looking at me? Are you saying that's your job?
I can't tell who that one was for.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Sometimes I just say things and I don't have anyone
specifically in mind.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Oh so you weren't looking directly at me. You were
looking at the wall over there.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Oh do you see this? No? I to that point,
I think this is a very healthy job for both
of us to be a most We have to talk
to people. We have to talk to each other.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Forced therapy, Gary and Shannon, It's always successful.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Gary and Shannon, look at you. Stay in the state
is coming up.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
We'll talk a little bit about what Gavin Newsom is
going to pitch for his upcoming presidency.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Oh boy, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand
from KFI A M six forty.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yes, two fifty. Semqui centennial centennial is a thing? Is
there a Q in there? There is a Q in there? Really? Yeah?
I don't know. I love learning new words.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Semi sick question is semi quin quin centennial?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Wow, that's fun to say, United States semi quincentennial boom.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Two hundred and fifty years. I remember.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
When California turned one hundred and fifty. I want to
say it was eighty seven, is that right? And it
was this a semi six semis with centennial.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
I don't know. I wasn't born yet, you were.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I was not there, but I know you're a big
Mike Turrico fan.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I am a huge great and I get to see
him on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
As evidenced by the call from UH from that Baltimore
Pittsburgh game.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Just at the end of the game ramp up.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
He is calling the Super Bowl this year at NBC
as the Super Bowl, so he this is amazingly it's
his first Super Bowl doing.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Play by play and he's got the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
The last time or one of the last times that
NBC had it, it was al Michaels who did it.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Al Michaels has al Michaels has become much must listen
to TV because al Michaels it's like watching Henry de
Carlo do the weather. You just feel like at some
point they're going to get real honest, you.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Know what I mean, And they may run a vowel.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah, it may run a fowl, whatever antiquated rules exist.
But like al Michaels this year, you know you watch
his games and he's got he's getting honest out there.
Mike Turrico, I think is the I and I won't
say a bad word about al Michael's ever.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I think he's great.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
But right now, Mike t Rico is is the best
play by play guy, hands down.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So he's doing the Super Bowl and then immediately after
the trophy is presented on the field, there in Santa Clara.
He turns around and starts Olympic coasting from the field.
I mean, right of sure, they're not. He's going to
turn around. They have a whole Olympic set and everything.
First they did boom, they start Sunday night brilliant, some
big prime time in Milan that they're going to be.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Pull it right over, baby, give us a new competition.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Governor Newsom is giving us final State of the State address,
looking to define his legacy and kick off his presidential campaign.
He's not going to announce that during this State of
the State, but he is going to shine the turd
that has been two entire what do you call it
terms of him being governor and then of course him
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as Lieutenant governor, etc. He is delivering this speech as
of right now as a matter of fact, and they
on a regular basis will send out State of the State,
the White House sends out State of the Union address, etc.
Before they actually deliver the speech, so that members of
the media have an opportunity to kind of get a
preview in terms of what he wants to do. He
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wants to position California as the innovator that we have
been in the past, and there are certain things that
he is absolutely correct about when he comes, when he
describes what it is that we do.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
We are the.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Nation's fruit basket, if you will, both in positive and
negative terms. But he's going to try to sell his
version of California. This is just as much for the
people of California, for forty million of US, as it
is for the three hundred and forty million in the
rest of the country that knew. Some said the two
of his top priorities, the Care Court and Prop One,
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which was supposed to provide funding for mental health and homelessness.
He's going to tout those and say that we now
have two great mechanisms in place to fight what has
been the scourge of homelessness or whatever term he's going
to use, disgruntled unsheltered or unhoused, shelterless people, whatever. It's
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not disgruntled as a new twist. It's not been a
success by any measure. It's not been a success. One
of the things is they said that he's going to
use this nine percent I think it is a nine
percent figure to prove that there's an estimated nine percent
drop statewide in unsheltered homelessness last year.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
He's not running on his record in California. Well, he's
running on his I am the guy that faces off
to Donald Trump. That is what his bread and butter is.
It's not what he's done in California. It's the bulldog
he's been versus Trump nationwide. He's going to talk about
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the fight about redistricting.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
You're going to get that a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
He's going to take a lot of things and he's
going to nationalize them. This is no doubt about it
going to be one of the opening speeches to run
for president. Yeah, he didn't pay attention to California for
six minutes when he was running for California governor. Well,
he's certainly not going to pay attention now.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
He's got to do something to put some butter on
the burnt toast.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
He's just going to talk us about Trump, which people
in California gobble, gobble, gobble. I'd like a second helping please.
He says that he will submit the budget. I think
Friday is when he says he's going to submit the budget.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
The most significant investments, he says, in public education in
California history. That's why the next budget includes a record
breaking twenty seven, four hundred and eighteen dollars per student.
That may be a record breaking, but it is still
well below what it needs to be. He will talk
about California, He will talk about the fourth largest economy.
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He will talk about all of that stuff in an
attempt to sort of button this end of his political
career up so that he can move it forward, advance
the ball down the field, and try to get into
this presidential race, among other things. He also is going
to use the term, and I hadn't heard this before.
Everybody's heard of Trump de arrangement syndrome, the blast against
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media members or other people who are so incensed by
Donald Trump that they'll do anything to get back at him.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
He is turning that around. And one of the terms that.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
He's expected to use in this State of the State
address is California derangement syndrome. And he says, every year,
people suffering from California arrangement syndrome look at this state
and try to tear down our progress. But we know
the truth. California success is not by chance, it's by design.
Then why is it that we run billions of dollars
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over budget?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
All the time.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
We had a massive surplus just a few years ago,
and you so completely fumbled it that we're billions of
dollars in the red in the state of California.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
And it's not because we don't make money.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
It's not because we don't have a high tax rate,
because thirteen point three percent is the highest in the nation.
It's that people in Sacramento cannot spend money correctly. But listen,
his job is to be smooth. His job is to
do a shoulder shimmy. His job is to wink at
you and call your brother and folks, that's what.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
He's going to do.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I feel like whenever I start agreeing with you on
this point, I think of, you know, down the hall
where we have a pink pong table and a basketball
hoop and cornhole, and I think I also don't know
how to spend money.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
So I just let you finish the argument.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Here's the difference. You spent your money or so you think, wait,
what how did you do?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
That's explained a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Actually, yeah, where did you think the piggy bank went
for the show?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I don't know, guys. There may be an emergency in space.
You think it's a pregnancy I'm.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Not saying it is.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I'm just saying that's a possibility. There are women astronauts,
you know.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Well, right, Adalys was giving out those fluids. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Maybe they dropped some of their genetic fluids right on
the space station and boom, put a baby up in there.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Not how it works, but you know, not right, it
could be a science fiction movie somewhere in there.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
You know, we've been distracted obviously domestic issues here in
the United States, Venezuela, Ukraine. In Iran, there have been
several days of protests and they've erupted now in Tehran,
the capitol, after a call by the exiled Crown prints
for mass demonstrations. Witnesses said that people have been shouting
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from their homes, rallying in the streets. Internet access and
telephone lines and around cut out immediately after those protests began,
because they have a switch that they can throw to
turn it all off. The protests started because of the
economy there in Iran. That's absolutely in the toilet, and
so far they've spread pretty far nationwide. At least thirty
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nine people have been killed in these protests. In Iran,
two thousand plus people detained, according to the human rights
activist news agency. That's what's been going on overseas well.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
We've got a medical situation at the space station and
NASA astronaut Chris Williams was on the news over the
weekend to talk about his eight month mission in space,
and now NASA is considering an.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Early return of Chris's crew because of an unspecific medical issue.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Very big vacuum, leaving us to wonder space big vacuum.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I know what I'm doing. I'm a professional broadcast.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Well, that's different than the term you used in rehearsal,
so I thought that was a very I just want
to compliment you on your edition.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Well, I sent my stunt double to the rehearsal, per usual.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
She was nice, she was I gotta get a new one.
That's not going to do.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
The rare move comes after NASA canceled a space walk
initially scheduled for today.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
The NASA spokesperson said, safely conducting our missions highest priority.
We're actively evaluating all options, including the possibility of an
earlier end to crew eleven's mission. They did not say
who is suffering this medical concern, and they did not
say what the medical concern is, only that the astronaut
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is being true treated as much as they can be
there in space and is considered to be in stable condition.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
There is a four person crew eleven. Crew consists of
US astronauts Xena Cardman, Mike Finkey, Russian cosmonaut Oleague Platonov,
and Japanese astronaut kimiyai U.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
The mission commander is Mike Finkyu and the flight engineer
is Xena Cardman. They were supposed to do a six
and a half hour spacewalk to put up some hardware,
a shelving or something like that.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Space walk six and a half hours.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, so six to eight months is basically what with
the length of their stay would be. They do have
basic medical equipment, They do have basic medications there in
space in the event of an emergency. So August is
when this crew went up and is set to return
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probably in May.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
There was another one.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
In last year, another spacewalk that had been scheduled, but
catch this they had to cancel a spacewalk in twenty
twenty five after an astronaut, reportedly experienced what they referred
to as space suit discomfort.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Now play many Christmas cookies. Either that or severe claustrophobia.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I would imagine that if you're an astronaut, that's one
of the things that does not compute for you.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I just get naked and use the hose. Use your
use Okay, I'm gonna let you read.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Okay, I'm gonna let you listen to what you said,
and then try try again.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Get naked and use the hose. Okay, So I'm imagined Egg.
It's been the Lambs connection in there.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I almost felt like you were trying to make could
you use a skin suit?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
It's been a while since I've seen Apollo eleven, but
I remember this is where I get all my knowledge
from space.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Your knowledge of space is it did go so? Well? Wait?
Is that the one where it did? I get those
confused too?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Also a problem a follow thirteen. So your your knowledge
of space is based on sixty year old technology?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
So do you have to wear your space suit the
whole time? No?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Okay, so you could wear your you know you can
wear your viory joggers. Right, wouldn't it be great if
as as you're hooked up to some sort of hoe, right,
there's not inside inside.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
You can just be free. So why are you in discomfort?
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Well, if you go outside the space station have to
be in the space suit.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That's where the discompany see. I see, so wait the
discomfort and.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I don't know if it's physical discomfort or mental discomfort.
It canceled that space.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Well, you can't have any sort of mental discomfort or
given the green light, like you would not be allowed
in the now you're capsuled to get up there. You
would be allowed into Orlando or I guess Orlando could
be a confined spaanity center. Yeah, they're very careful about
You've got to be able to withstand anything mentally.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Most of Florida very flat. Yes.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
In twenty twenty one, the space suit discomfort was a
pinched nerve okay, which is weird because I always associate
pinched nerves with Well, I guess it could happen, but
I was going to say it be like gravity. You
get a pinched nerve in your back or your hip
or something like that, it's because gravity's pulling your your
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meat suit down on itself. But if you're in space,
you're weightless. So it almost would feel like a pinch
nerve would be relieved in space, right unless something happened,
we don't know. But again NASA has been very quiet.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
But I think you're talking about for big, bigger people
when they have a pitch nerve.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
These are not big people. No, they can't be. Yeah,
how come we never do?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
See on Jenna and Friends they do a fitness segment
and they they bring in fitness people and they do
different fitness crazes.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
How can we never do that on this show? You know,
bring in somebody to show us to tighten it up
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Well, they're not going to be able to do that
in eight minutes, but just to show what people are into, Like,
what is that large stick that they have now that
is apparently a fitness craze.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
It looks like a shuffle board, the shuffle board, shovel.
What do they call that? Sure spoon fork, shuffle board fork,
shuffle board. Yeah, it's all it is is a balance.
It's a balance. You shouldn't need that.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Maybe you going to work up to it. Not everybody.
I mean, Elmer does workouts. He complained about leg day
from a couple of days ago.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I didn't know Elmer did work out. Have you seen
that guy? I don't objectify and look at Elmer's body.
Thanks Shan, You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
He doesn't show it off, but you know he never
wears like anything.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Glimpse of that. I used to.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Oh, I used to, but now that I am dating,
I covered it before.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Diane, you wore, you know, cycling outfits to work?
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Well, maybe tank top and the really, yeah, I'd be
a little bit more scared about.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
You think that if you were a tank top to
work that women would just wouldn't be able to contain
themselves and you would go home and say, honey, it.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Was a rough day. Sorry, I tried. The women were
throwing themselves at me.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
No, but I mean on my good days, I'm like,
if I.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
You're good, you're like a nice Muslim woman.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
You know, you put on the burka, you don't let
anyone see your shapes, you don't make eye contact.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
You think I'm joking. I'm serious. You got up.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I've never had anything where I'm like, I got to
cover this up where people are gonna go crazy.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Oh, when you're pumped up.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
When you're pumped up, you see, I got to put
in more hours at the gym and then I can
wear my burka.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
You guys won't even know you guys won't even know
how how cut I am because I'll be in my burka.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Heck yeah, I feel like we're gonna get into trouble
with this.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Oh it's so funny that you're like, Oh, look at
all the trouble we are getting into.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Who's we get called into the boss's office and you're like,
can you believe this guy? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I know.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I feel like I've been in that meeting before. That's funny.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I've never heard You've been.
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Associated Press says Minneapolis is on edge.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
This is after the.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Shooting of a woman by an Immigration Customs enforcement officer yesterday.
Protesters gathered today outside of a federal building that has
been a base of operation for federal agents in Minneapolis.
They shouted the clean things they shouted was no more Ice.
Governor's Waltz of Minnesota has demanded that the state be
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allowed to take part in the investigation. As of right now.
Christy Noam said that Minnesota authorities don't have any jurisdiction
that may be an issue. The FBI is likely involved
or is likely the lead agency, because it was a
federal agent that was involved in the shooting, but it
did take place in the streets of Minneapolis, so Minneapolis PD,
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even the Minneapolis state law enforcement agencies could be involved
as well well.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
The news came down yesterday as our show was beginning
that high profile defense attorney Alan Jackson was off the
case of Nick Reiner. Nick Reiner famously stabbing and killing
his parents to death in their home in Brentwood. Now
it has appeared that they are going to be going
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all in with this not guilty by reason of insanity
type defense. He has been diagnosed in the past with
schizophrenia adjacent disorders. He had been on a number of medications,
and by all accounts, the doctors were trying to figure
out the medications. Whether you know, if you have ever
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had anyone in your life. I have not, but that
I know of, But I've read enough to know that
that can be a very tenuous time in somebody's life
when they are going through mental health issues and the
meds are not where they need to be. That it's
a it's a definite balancing act there, almost like it's
a constant it's a constant calibrate recalibration. So now I'm
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not saying that that is why he killed his parents.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I'm not saying he's innocent. I'm not saying he's guilty.
What have you? It is, it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
And again, a mental health illness is not a defense
by the law. They do have to prove that in
the moment, he did not know right from wrong. So
and again, like I said yesterday, I think there's some
hurdles are going to face with that.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Number One, he left the house.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Number two, he ditched his clothes, he checked into a hotel,
He did all the things that seemed to be you
are evading from the bad thing that you know you
just did. But that's neither here and over there. The
question is why did Alan Jackson leave the case. Alan
Jackson charges an s ton of money. I read somewhere
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yesterday it's got to be a seven figure retainer for
a case like this, seven figure retainer.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Now, obviously the.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Ryers and that's just the retainer, that's just the opening price.
Then you've got to pay hourly for a guy who's
what six seven, eight hundred dodds.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I mean, well, that goes into the retainer.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's pay this chunk of money
and then hopefully it'll cover it. But if it doesn't,
you know, then we'll start tacking it on overtime. Yeah.
So obviously the Rhiners have tons of money. I don't
want to say obviously, but obviously they had some sort
of trust for the family.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
These are two successful people.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
They've got simply, they've got three kids, right, there's three.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Kids, correct. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
So some people have said that there may have been
a trust for each child. Each child gets a portion
of the money that's already been that's decided upon in
the trust.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
That that's one way to do it.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
That might just not be one pot of money in
the trust, that each child is assigned X amount of
dollars in the trust. Now, if let's say the siblings
and I don't know who made the phone call to
Alan Jackson, he says he got the call December fifteenth,
and from that point on he dropped everything and every
waking hour was spent in defense of Nick Reiner. And
on this case that he Alan Jackson made no bones
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about it. If one thing was clear, he was all
in on this case. He was going to do this
as a high of course, he was. This is what
you hope for as a defense attorney, a mental illness
case in liberal California, liberal Los Angeles. The two murdered
people were innocence project type people.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I mean, this is perfect. Alan Jackson wanted this case.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Now, usually when a high profile attorney falls through, it's
a money problem.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
And you're thinking, well, how can it be a money problem?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I feel like there's something in here where they were
going to use Nick Reiner's own inheritance to pay for
his defense, and legally or by the rules of the trust,
they may not be able to do that.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I saw it.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I saw it referred to as a slayer clause where
somebody and again it depends on how their trust was
was written and put together, and if it was divided
among the kids, that you can't use even before they're
convicted of murder, you are not able to use that
money in the defense of somebody accused of them, right.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
And I also think it's quite likely you know that
the other siblings would not want to spend their own
trust money in defense of their brother who killed their parents.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I can see why.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
It's a very complicated matter and probably there were a
lot of uncomfortable conversations in the Rhiner family about this.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Can you be can you request a public defender even
if you have the finances to pay for a attorney,
so that could We talked about it yesterday. I thought
your idea that this could potentially be a defense tactic
of unloading the high profile lawyer and going with a
public defender, granted, one with what is it, twenty years
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experience on the job. It's not like she's new to
this whole thing, and she's probably good at her job
if she's been there for nineteen years. But the idea
that could also be potentially a tactic.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Well, it makes less of a circus of the whole thing.
It's going to be a circus anyway, But when you
throw Alan Jackson into the mix, you have an attorney
who's going to run before every microphone and keep this
thing on the front page as opposed to the backpage.
He is going to make sure he gets his money's
worth with the visibility of a case like this. You
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take him away and suddenly not as many people are
paying attention. You know, you have Alan Jackson running out
to a microphone. You probably have the DA of La
County running out to a microphone as well. He would
have to he would have to match wits with Alan Jackson,
which makes it front page news all the time. That
means everyone's got an opinion about this defense. The fewer
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people paying attention probably the best for the defense. I
would think.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, the arrangement from yesterday obviously scuttled because of this
change in attorneys, and they have rescheduled it for February
twenty third, which is, of course when we're going to
talk about it again. Gen Z may be selfish. There's
been the rise in therapy talk. Is this driving this
selfishness when it comes to gen Z, we'll talk about
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that we come back.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
How do these people have enough for therapy? Therapy is expensive?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I mean they have enough for these ten dollars coffees
every day and therapy.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I had a coffee yesterday and it was seven dollars.
That's insane. Somewhere my father and grandfather and their grandfathers,
they don't they have killed you.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
You're dead to them, and looking at me, they are
dead and you're dead to them.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Say a word. They just turned away.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, they can't even look at you.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
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Speaker 2 (08:06):
No suspects identified yet. Two people were killed in a
shooting in Salt Lake City last night.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
At a funeral at a funeral.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Apparently the funerals for a guy from here in southern California,
but the funeral was at a church in Salt Lake
City last night, six people injured, three of them said
to be in critical condition, and then the two people
who were killed. As of right now, police in Salt
Lake City say they do not believe they believe it
was targeted, so that they say there's no a known
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threat to the public, no further danger.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
State of the State.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Governor Newsom is going to get his State of the
State address coming up a few minutes. As a matter
of fact, first time in five years that he'll actually
do it in front of people. He'd been doing a
bunch of video versions because everybody was terrified of COVID.
And a little bit later this hour, by the way,
we're going to talk about a potential NASA emergence, the
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evacuation of the International Space Station.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Oh, there is an.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
As you evacuate here, that's the only one direction. Okay, Uh,
they're an unspecified medical issue involving an unspecified astronaut. May
mean that they have to bring that person home in
order for treatment. I wonder what it is, pregnancy? Pregnancy? No,
(09:26):
why not think they're banging around up there? Could or
maybe they were banging around before they left.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
That would be very irresponsible to get pregnant in the
space station.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I would argue that that's the last thing it is.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
It's a possibility, you know, just because you like to
think about astronauts banging around and the space station doesn't
make my niche. So that's what i's that's your kink,
astronauts to the space station.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Never mind this.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
This is a term in this article that I found
most interesting that this gen Z gen Z is likely
the most therapy and mental health literate generation in history.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Well, the stigma is gone, there is I believe it
started with my generation whatever that is, millennial what have
you where there were a lot of young women my
age that were very much into psychology. I felt like
everyone was a psychology major for a little bit in
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the early two thousands, and there was still a little
bit of a stigma there. It seemed like they weren't
going to be therapists, but they were intrigued by psychology.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I forgot a degree in psychology. There you go.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
My cousin is a generation behind me, and she is
a therapist and a lot of her friends are therapists.
She does the majority of her therapy work are zoom call,
which is now the new way to get therapy. You
hear it all the time on podcasts on the radio,
therapy right on your phone, therapy that's bite sized or
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that is affordable therapy for you, whatever you can pay
kind of a thing. It's become more accessible than ever.
You're no longer going to a middle aged woman with
oversized glasses and a couch in some sort of you know,
victorian home outside of town. Like it's everywhere. It's on
your phone, and as soon as you can put something
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on your phone, people are going to use it. And
now therapy is on your phone.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
This knowledge of therapy, this knowledge of mental health, and
all of the words and key phrases and practices that
go along with it, can be misused, and this article
suggests that. Jamille Zaki, for example, professor of psychology at Stanford,
says that using terms like protect your peace or you
don't owe anyone any thing, when used outside of a
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clinical setting, can justify people being selfish. Zaki says the
use of therapy speak to justify being non committal socially,
or being withdrawn socially, or having the right to withdraw
socially can be very hurtful.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
But I think that a lot of people feel like
they need to do certain things that they don't really
need to do. What do you mean you don't suffer
from this? You're not a people pleaser. Oh I would disagree,
but go on, I'll let you.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
No, I realized I just displeased you when I said that.
It bothers me.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
No, there's a difference between being considerate and aware of
being considerate to people and feeling like you need to
people please because.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
You're not good enough or what have you.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Okay, I don't feelk that you are that person that
you're like like me, like me, like me, because you
don't think that you're good enough inside. Like that's a
very big difference. You're a considerate person. You're going to
do things probably that you don't want to do all
the time for other people because it's for other people
and it'll benefit them.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
That's you.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
There are people that are people pleasers, that are like me,
like me, like me, because they feel inadequate for whatever
reason for themselves. That is the advice for that person.
You don't owe anything to anybody. You are enough, like
I get that therapy speak that leaves a therapists room sometimes,
I think is why, especially bite size like that.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, it's very helpful, but they're easier. It's easier to
do a bite size post on Instagram than it is
to do a full therapy session.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, I don't know. I've never been to therapy, so
I don't know. I really should sit this one out.
I don't know how beneficial or how great it is.
I don't I dump all my crap on my girlfriends.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Which is in itself its own form of therapy. Yes, yes,
but the also there's also you don't have an expectation
that they're going to be able to fix things for
you necessarily.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Now, I mean your form.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Of therapy if probably just getting it out. I mean
a lot of times, just the process of explaining a
situation verbally in front of somebody, yes, can help you
galvanize what it is that's going on in your head. Yes,
right so, And I think people who do that are lucky,
or have that ability, are very lucky.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
If all you had to do was get out those
words in front of mine.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Some people they need to get it out, but then
they need someone else to help kind of reorganize, you know,
arrange the perspective kind of thing so that they can
figure out whatever their problem or issue is, right, but
this idea, I mean, my kids are both My kids
both need alone time. They are cave people, but they
also know that they have to be social and there
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are times when whether it's dealing with I mean they
neither of them have jobs where they have to deal
with customers necessarily, but they do have to deal with coworkers,
and they do have to deal with management. And in
the event that they are out and about in us
social situation they go to a restaurant or bar or something,
they do have to deal with people. But that they
both also have said that they need time away alone
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I get it and recharge and be quiet and not
have to put themselves out there so that they can
have the energy, et cetera when they're.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Out exactly in public. That's an important balance. I just
I don't have a loane time. It is not good.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I do not like this idea.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Later on in the article, it talks about how we've
lost the village, Like everybody wants a village, but nobody
wants to be the villager. Everybody wants to have a community,
but a lot of us are fall very short of
actually fostering that community. How many times do we think
to ourselves. You know, I'd love to be a better friend,
but I don't really want to go to call. I
don't want to call. I don't want to do the thing.
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I just rather sit on my butt. The couch is calling.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
The couch is always the better community as humans.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
You well, And the thing I think you hit on
is the balance.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
That's what's key. Yeah, is Yeah, have your alone time.
It's necessary for everybody. Some need it more so than others.
But we do need to have face to face conversations.
And it doesn't need to be a big deal. You know,
you don't need to have like you know, like it
can be just a cup of coffee with a friend.
You know, it can be coming into work and talking
to a bonehead for four hours, because that's what your
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job is, you know it concern are you?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Are you looking at me? Are you saying that's your job?
I can't tell who that one was for.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Sometimes I just say things and I don't have anyone
specifically in mind.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Oh so you weren't looking directly at me. You were
looking at the wall over there.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Oh do you see this? No? I to that point,
I think this is a very healthy job for both
of us to be a most We have to talk
to people. We have to talk to each other.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Forced therapy, Gary and Shannon, It's always successful.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Gary and Shannon, look at you. Stay in the state
is coming up.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
We'll talk a little bit about what Gavin Newsom is
going to pitch for his upcoming presidency.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Oh boy, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand
from KFI A M six forty.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yes, two fifty. Semqui centennial centennial is a thing? Is
there a Q in there? There is a Q in there? Really? Yeah?
I don't know. I love learning new words.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Semi sick question is semi quin quin centennial?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Wow, that's fun to say, United States semi quincentennial boom.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Two hundred and fifty years. I remember.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
When California turned one hundred and fifty. I want to
say it was eighty seven, is that right? And it
was this a semi six semis with centennial.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
I don't know. I wasn't born yet, you were.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I was not there, but I know you're a big
Mike Turrico fan.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I am a huge great and I get to see
him on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
As evidenced by the call from UH from that Baltimore
Pittsburgh game.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Just at the end of the game ramp up.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
He is calling the Super Bowl this year at NBC
as the Super Bowl, so he this is amazingly it's
his first Super Bowl doing.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Play by play and he's got the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
The last time or one of the last times that
NBC had it, it was al Michaels who did it.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Al Michaels has al Michaels has become much must listen
to TV because al Michaels it's like watching Henry de
Carlo do the weather. You just feel like at some
point they're going to get real honest, you.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Know what I mean, And they may run a vowel.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah, it may run a fowl, whatever antiquated rules exist.
But like al Michaels this year, you know you watch
his games and he's got he's getting honest out there.
Mike Turrico, I think is the I and I won't
say a bad word about al Michael's ever.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I think he's great.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
But right now, Mike t Rico is is the best
play by play guy, hands down.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So he's doing the Super Bowl and then immediately after
the trophy is presented on the field, there in Santa Clara.
He turns around and starts Olympic coasting from the field.
I mean, right of sure, they're not. He's going to
turn around. They have a whole Olympic set and everything.
First they did boom, they start Sunday night brilliant, some
big prime time in Milan that they're going to be.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Pull it right over, baby, give us a new competition.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Governor Newsom is giving us final State of the State address,
looking to define his legacy and kick off his presidential campaign.
He's not going to announce that during this State of
the State, but he is going to shine the turd
that has been two entire what do you call it
terms of him being governor and then of course him
(20:00):
as Lieutenant governor, etc. He is delivering this speech as
of right now as a matter of fact, and they
on a regular basis will send out State of the State,
the White House sends out State of the Union address, etc.
Before they actually deliver the speech, so that members of
the media have an opportunity to kind of get a
preview in terms of what he wants to do. He
(20:25):
wants to position California as the innovator that we have
been in the past, and there are certain things that
he is absolutely correct about when he comes, when he
describes what it is that we do.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
We are the.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Nation's fruit basket, if you will, both in positive and
negative terms. But he's going to try to sell his
version of California. This is just as much for the
people of California, for forty million of US, as it
is for the three hundred and forty million in the
rest of the country that knew. Some said the two
of his top priorities, the Care Court and Prop One,
(21:05):
which was supposed to provide funding for mental health and homelessness.
He's going to tout those and say that we now
have two great mechanisms in place to fight what has
been the scourge of homelessness or whatever term he's going
to use, disgruntled unsheltered or unhoused, shelterless people, whatever. It's
(21:26):
not disgruntled as a new twist. It's not been a
success by any measure. It's not been a success. One
of the things is they said that he's going to
use this nine percent I think it is a nine
percent figure to prove that there's an estimated nine percent
drop statewide in unsheltered homelessness last year.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
He's not running on his record in California. Well, he's
running on his I am the guy that faces off
to Donald Trump. That is what his bread and butter is.
It's not what he's done in California. It's the bulldog
he's been versus Trump nationwide. He's going to talk about
(22:10):
the fight about redistricting.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
You're going to get that a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
He's going to take a lot of things and he's
going to nationalize them. This is no doubt about it
going to be one of the opening speeches to run
for president. Yeah, he didn't pay attention to California for
six minutes when he was running for California governor. Well,
he's certainly not going to pay attention now.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
He's got to do something to put some butter on
the burnt toast.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
He's just going to talk us about Trump, which people
in California gobble, gobble, gobble. I'd like a second helping please.
He says that he will submit the budget. I think
Friday is when he says he's going to submit the budget.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
The most significant investments, he says, in public education in
California history. That's why the next budget includes a record
breaking twenty seven, four hundred and eighteen dollars per student.
That may be a record breaking, but it is still
well below what it needs to be. He will talk
about California, He will talk about the fourth largest economy.
(23:11):
He will talk about all of that stuff in an
attempt to sort of button this end of his political
career up so that he can move it forward, advance
the ball down the field, and try to get into
this presidential race, among other things. He also is going
to use the term, and I hadn't heard this before.
Everybody's heard of Trump de arrangement syndrome, the blast against
(23:35):
media members or other people who are so incensed by
Donald Trump that they'll do anything to get back at him.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
He is turning that around. And one of the terms that.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
He's expected to use in this State of the State
address is California derangement syndrome. And he says, every year,
people suffering from California arrangement syndrome look at this state
and try to tear down our progress. But we know
the truth. California success is not by chance, it's by design.
Then why is it that we run billions of dollars
(24:05):
over budget?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
All the time.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
We had a massive surplus just a few years ago,
and you so completely fumbled it that we're billions of
dollars in the red in the state of California.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
And it's not because we don't make money.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
It's not because we don't have a high tax rate,
because thirteen point three percent is the highest in the nation.
It's that people in Sacramento cannot spend money correctly. But listen,
his job is to be smooth. His job is to
do a shoulder shimmy. His job is to wink at
you and call your brother and folks, that's what.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
He's going to do.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I feel like whenever I start agreeing with you on
this point, I think of, you know, down the hall
where we have a pink pong table and a basketball
hoop and cornhole, and I think I also don't know
how to spend money.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
So I just let you finish the argument.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Here's the difference. You spent your money or so you think, wait,
what how did you do?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
That's explained a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Actually, yeah, where did you think the piggy bank went
for the show?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I don't know, guys. There may be an emergency in space.
You think it's a pregnancy I'm.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Not saying it is.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I'm just saying that's a possibility. There are women astronauts,
you know.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Well, right, Adalys was giving out those fluids. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Maybe they dropped some of their genetic fluids right on
the space station and boom, put a baby up in there.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Not how it works, but you know, not right, it
could be a science fiction movie somewhere in there.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
You know, we've been distracted obviously domestic issues here in
the United States, Venezuela, Ukraine. In Iran, there have been
several days of protests and they've erupted now in Tehran,
the capitol, after a call by the exiled Crown prints
for mass demonstrations. Witnesses said that people have been shouting
(26:07):
from their homes, rallying in the streets. Internet access and
telephone lines and around cut out immediately after those protests began,
because they have a switch that they can throw to
turn it all off. The protests started because of the
economy there in Iran. That's absolutely in the toilet, and
so far they've spread pretty far nationwide. At least thirty
(26:29):
nine people have been killed in these protests. In Iran,
two thousand plus people detained, according to the human rights
activist news agency. That's what's been going on overseas well.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
We've got a medical situation at the space station and
NASA astronaut Chris Williams was on the news over the
weekend to talk about his eight month mission in space,
and now NASA is considering an.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Early return of Chris's crew because of an unspecific medical issue.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Very big vacuum, leaving us to wonder space big vacuum.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I know what I'm doing. I'm a professional broadcast.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Well, that's different than the term you used in rehearsal,
so I thought that was a very I just want
to compliment you on your edition.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Well, I sent my stunt double to the rehearsal, per usual.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
She was nice, she was I gotta get a new one.
That's not going to do.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
The rare move comes after NASA canceled a space walk
initially scheduled for today.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
The NASA spokesperson said, safely conducting our missions highest priority.
We're actively evaluating all options, including the possibility of an
earlier end to crew eleven's mission. They did not say
who is suffering this medical concern, and they did not
say what the medical concern is, only that the astronaut
(27:58):
is being true treated as much as they can be
there in space and is considered to be in stable condition.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
There is a four person crew eleven. Crew consists of
US astronauts Xena Cardman, Mike Finkey, Russian cosmonaut Oleague Platonov,
and Japanese astronaut kimiyai U.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
The mission commander is Mike Finkyu and the flight engineer
is Xena Cardman. They were supposed to do a six
and a half hour spacewalk to put up some hardware,
a shelving or something like that.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Space walk six and a half hours.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, so six to eight months is basically what with
the length of their stay would be. They do have
basic medical equipment, They do have basic medications there in
space in the event of an emergency. So August is
when this crew went up and is set to return
(28:55):
probably in May.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
There was another one.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
In last year, another spacewalk that had been scheduled, but
catch this they had to cancel a spacewalk in twenty
twenty five after an astronaut, reportedly experienced what they referred
to as space suit discomfort.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Now play many Christmas cookies. Either that or severe claustrophobia.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I would imagine that if you're an astronaut, that's one
of the things that does not compute for you.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I just get naked and use the hose. Use your
use Okay, I'm gonna let you read.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Okay, I'm gonna let you listen to what you said,
and then try try again.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Get naked and use the hose. Okay, So I'm imagined Egg.
It's been the Lambs connection in there.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I almost felt like you were trying to make could
you use a skin suit?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
It's been a while since I've seen Apollo eleven, but
I remember this is where I get all my knowledge
from space.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Your knowledge of space is it did go so? Well? Wait?
Is that the one where it did? I get those
confused too?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Also a problem a follow thirteen. So your your knowledge
of space is based on sixty year old technology?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
So do you have to wear your space suit the
whole time? No?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Okay, so you could wear your you know you can
wear your viory joggers. Right, wouldn't it be great if
as as you're hooked up to some sort of hoe, right,
there's not inside inside.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
You can just be free. So why are you in discomfort?
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Well, if you go outside the space station have to
be in the space suit.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That's where the discompany see. I see, so wait the
discomfort and.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I don't know if it's physical discomfort or mental discomfort.
It canceled that space.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Well, you can't have any sort of mental discomfort or
given the green light, like you would not be allowed
in the now you're capsuled to get up there. You
would be allowed into Orlando or I guess Orlando could
be a confined spaanity center. Yeah, they're very careful about
You've got to be able to withstand anything mentally.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Most of Florida very flat. Yes.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
In twenty twenty one, the space suit discomfort was a
pinched nerve okay, which is weird because I always associate
pinched nerves with Well, I guess it could happen, but
I was going to say it be like gravity. You
get a pinched nerve in your back or your hip
or something like that, it's because gravity's pulling your your
(31:48):
meat suit down on itself. But if you're in space,
you're weightless. So it almost would feel like a pinch
nerve would be relieved in space, right unless something happened,
we don't know. But again NASA has been very quiet.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
But I think you're talking about for big, bigger people
when they have a pitch nerve.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
These are not big people. No, they can't be. Yeah,
how come we never do?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
See on Jenna and Friends they do a fitness segment
and they they bring in fitness people and they do
different fitness crazes.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
How can we never do that on this show? You know,
bring in somebody to show us to tighten it up
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Well, they're not going to be able to do that
in eight minutes, but just to show what people are into, Like,
what is that large stick that they have now that
is apparently a fitness craze.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
It looks like a shuffle board, the shuffle board, shovel.
What do they call that? Sure spoon fork, shuffle board fork,
shuffle board. Yeah, it's all it is is a balance.
It's a balance. You shouldn't need that.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Maybe you going to work up to it. Not everybody.
I mean, Elmer does workouts. He complained about leg day
from a couple of days ago.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I didn't know Elmer did work out. Have you seen
that guy? I don't objectify and look at Elmer's body.
Thanks Shan, You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
He doesn't show it off, but you know he never
wears like anything.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Glimpse of that. I used to.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Oh, I used to, but now that I am dating,
I covered it before.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Diane, you wore, you know, cycling outfits to work?
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Well, maybe tank top and the really, yeah, I'd be
a little bit more scared about.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
You think that if you were a tank top to
work that women would just wouldn't be able to contain
themselves and you would go home and say, honey, it.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Was a rough day. Sorry, I tried. The women were
throwing themselves at me.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
No, but I mean on my good days, I'm like,
if I.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
You're good, you're like a nice Muslim woman.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
You know, you put on the burka, you don't let
anyone see your shapes, you don't make eye contact.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
You think I'm joking. I'm serious. You got up.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I've never had anything where I'm like, I got to
cover this up where people are gonna go crazy.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Oh, when you're pumped up.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
When you're pumped up, you see, I got to put
in more hours at the gym and then I can
wear my burka.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
You guys won't even know you guys won't even know
how how cut I am because I'll be in my burka.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Heck yeah, I feel like we're gonna get into trouble
with this.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Oh it's so funny that you're like, Oh, look at
all the trouble we are getting into.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Who's we get called into the boss's office and you're like,
can you believe this guy? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I know.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I feel like I've been in that meeting before. That's funny.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I've never heard You've been.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
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