July 10, 2025 • 28 mins
At least 31 workers were able to escape after a tunnel collapse in Wilmington. They seeded clouds over Texas. Then came the conspiracy theories!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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happen on this show. It's one of the things I
love about this show. It's unlike other shows. You know,
you tune into other shows, you know what you're gonna get.
It's like McDonald's. It's lovely. I know when I pull
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up into that McDonald's drive through, it's gonna take me
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mc chicken, and it's gonna taste exactly like the McChicken
that I had last week, or last year or in
nineteen ninety two. It is the same McChicken. There are
shows like this that I enjoy. They are the same McChicken.
That's not this show. You never know what you're gonna get.
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Remember that time we got a new pope.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Huh. I bet you didn't see that coming. I remember it. Yeah,
A good day. Yeah, it was a damn good day,
A gd good day, Heather.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
The thing is, when you know what you're gonna get, though,
no matter what, whether it's fresh or new or do
it's delicious and we love it and we come back
for it.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yes, thank you, Like yesterday we got mo Kelly. Didn't
see that coming, did you. Thank you Moe for filling in.
I had a doctor's appointment in the middle of the
day because that's when doctor's appointments are and these days,
I sort of got it take six months, six months
to get into a doctor's appointment.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It really does.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I have had some scheduled I had to move them
this week because I forgot I was filling in for
Amy and I had to reschedule him for the fall.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I was going to say probably for like six months.
It's crazy. A lot of doctors have left. They're into
the concierge medicine, and I understand that it's more lucrative,
but man, it's hard to get in there. So when
you get an appointment, you got to keep it. But
thank you to Moe Kelly for filling in. Not only
is there something new for everybody on this show every
day you don't know what's what you're gonna get. We
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also listen to you.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
We do. We listen. We listen to all your comments.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
We whether it be on talkback or on Facebook or
Twitter or what have you Instagram, and we try to
give you what you want and what you've been asking for.
I have listened to and what you've been asking for
is more Michael Monks, and I too have been asking
for more of the Monks, and so there is a
special treat for you coming up. While Gary remains on vacation,
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he sent me a cryptic text by the way yesterday,
and I don't know what it means. I don't know
if he's been kidnapped and drugged, but it was just
it was very cryptic and odd.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I don't even know what.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
It means, so I don't even want to I don't
even want to air it out in case someone figures
it out and it is some sort of like military
rescue signal or something. But anyway, Michael Monks, you'll be
getting more of So thank you for asking I too
was asking for it as well. Heather, have you have
you recovered from Michael Krozer's report?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Not yet, still thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I don't think I've ever heard it, because I did
that job for a number of years too. I don't
think I've ever heard a news anchor like say like
that was a good report. I like hearing from that
reporter like that never happens, I do.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I think we have some of the best and abiz
here and so I was like, I'm gonna give Crozier
so he has a very signature style to his reports.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
So I appreciate that, you know, and he appreciates you
noting that because so often people just they don't pay attention.
And so you got to pay attention to the newscast
or you miss the moment of fun times. The fun
times I feel you're going to ask me if I
wanted more Michael Monks, and the answer is yes.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Also, well I knew the answer to that.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Let's not be silly, okay, So I just wanted to
keep you on really quickly, not to distract you from
the news. But I am hearing more controversy about this
Superman movie than anything. I hear it on the radio,
in I hear it out in the halls. Is have
we reached peak? People want politics left out of their
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insert recreational activity here, sports, movies, what have you?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Is that? What's going on?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Are people politicizing this or is it just obviously political?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Well, you know what happened was somebody asked James gunn
a question on the Red Car during one of the premieres,
and said, is this a you know, an immigrant story?
Is this a story that's about immigration? And he kind
of awkwardly was like, well, you know, Superman is an immigrant.
You know, he is from a literal other planet. And
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but he said, it's for everybody. This is a movie
for everybody. And as someone who has seen the movie,
I just want to remind everybody that just because you
hear a little nugget of something and then some news
outlets just blow it up and throw it out there
and make it way more dramatic than it really is,
this movie didn't have like a message. I didn't walk
out of there being like, oh, I feel like I've
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my life has been changed by this message.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's Superman, right.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
You know, it's he He's flying around, he's got a cape,
he's rescuing people, he's fighting bad guys.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
That's the takeaway. It's Superman. Everyone come.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I have a real hard time when we talk about
boycotting superhero movies or football games or really anything. And
it's this twenty four hour cycle of media and just
saturation press. Saturation is where we live with our phones
constantly lighting up with news alerts at aren't news? How
often do you get your phone lighting up with something
from the Hollywood Reporter or TMZ or The Atlantic or whatever.
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And I'm like, it used to just be, you know,
a plane has gone down, and now I'm getting these
alerts for everything. A comment that a director said on
the red carpet ten years ago, even certainly not twenty
or thirty years ago, you would never hear about it.
You'd go watch Superman, You'd enjoy yourself. You wouldn't even
think about politics or the ramifications or where does the
director come down on Torontald Trump or what have you. You
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wouldn't even think about it. It would be not even
on your mind. And the fact that these things are
in our mind when we go to have recreational activities
is sad, and I think we've reached peak that and.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
We definitely have. There are definitely some movies that are
geared towards that type of thing, like there are documentaries
that are made. There are movies that have a political stance,
But movies, inherently, since the dawn of movies, there has
been a story in and a somewhat of a message
and right, you know, behind them, that is the that
is the essence of storytelling in film and television. So
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to say I don't want a story in my movies.
I don't want anyone to tell them anything is a little,
a little nuts.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Twilight Zone case and point. Every twilight Zone has a message. Yeah,
I just wanted to watch the Barbie movie for the
outfits and the lighting and the set design and the
shoes and the Barbie feet. I didn't need a whole
thing about what does it all mean?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, we don't need a deep dive that way. But
also to your point about the endless news cycle, everyone,
please continue to listen to the KFI twenty four hour
Newsroom because every hour of every minute we are here.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
And on the quarter hour, that's right, we will continue.
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There is a new mystery surrounding the Scott Peterson case
that we're going to dive into coming up later on
the show. And the mystery is why are we trying
to free Scott Peterson? Why did the Innocence Project get involved?
The Innocence Project is set aside your hate that you
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Speaker 2 (07:14):
The basis of it is for good.
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It's for people who had been coerced into confessions. It's
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The Innocence Project is not a bad deal.
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Freaking people who were wrongfully convicted, which I think we
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I've had nightmares like this where I'm found guilty or
I'm arrested for something I didn't do and there's just
no way out. It is a real life nightmare for people,
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and the Innocence Project does really good work for that
for that group of people. Unfortunately, why the hell are
they busying themselves with Scott Peterson. That is not what
the Innocence Project was created to do. It's a mystery
and there may be some answers about why they get
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And remember to check your email because that's how they
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get into this tunnel collapse and rescue. Who doesn't love
a tunnel collapse? Oh maybe not a collapse, but a rescue.
I think it goes back to our baby, Jessica Roots.
I tried an ice bath this morning, you guys, Okay,
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not really, but you know there's all this talk about
cold plunges and how it's good for you, and I
know athletes have done this forever, but there's been all
of this this fad talk about cold plunges, jumping into
a cold pool or whatever, and how it you do it.
First thing, it helps her out your day, gives you energy,
helps you to burn calories. All the things, all the
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good things that the fad diets are trends purport to do.
So this morning, I'm taking a shower and I was like,
you know, I'm gonna try this whole cold plunge thing.
So I just turned it to cold.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
How did that work coming for?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And I was like, look at me, cold plunging in
the shower, all proud of myself for the twenty one
seconds it lasted.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I mean it's tough.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I put conditioner in my hair and so I was like, okay,
we at least I'm committing to washing out the conditioner, right,
So I got it. At least stay in the cold,
ice cold water long enough to wash it out.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So I did. But man, that's cold. But I gotta
say it does wake you up. I felt energized after.
It's like a shot of coffee, little shot of caffeine. Yeah,
wake up with a cold.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I know people that have actually bought the tubs, the
actual like they look like hot tubs, but they're smaller
and they're just for cold plunges and they do it
every day.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Where do they put these tubs in the backyard in
the basement, like in the back patio like a hot tub,
like you would put out there in the hot tub,
and they just go out there and sit for ninety seconds,
sixty seconds whatever it is. Oh, okay, good, So I
wasn't that far off. They're not in there for ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I know.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
There's this influencer and her husband that live like up
in the mountain somewhere, I think Alaska, and they have
one of those tubs that always freezes over and they're
always taking videos of them breaking the eyes and.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
The eyes getting into the ones.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
And they have coffee and they sit there and they
chat and I'm like, I'm freezing watching you guys. I'm
gonna take my hot shower now. Like I could not what.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And what do they say is a benefit?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Because I was just trying to go through the benefits
and I kind of think I was making them up
because I really don't remember what the benefits are from
what the experts have said or whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
It make me like, improved mood, increase, metabolism, better blood
sugar regulation, yeah, reduced and so muscle soreness.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
That's a big one.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I'm a friend who's a runner who does it.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I decided because last week I had my birthday and
whenever I'm around my birthday, I try to do things
that make me feel good about being old.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
And I went to.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
This workout place and at five am, because one of
my girlfriends from high school is still in my hometown
and she goes to this five am workout thing where
you just get on a treadmill at five am, you
just go. And I did it last week because I'm
because I'm because I'm stupid, because I'm a stupid ass,
because I don't do I don't get on the treadmill,
let alone at five am. And I decided just to
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like do that for a couple times last week. And
I got shin splints for the first time. Oh that's
my man. Those don't play like those are a situation.
Luckily I just got it in one of them. But
how it feels like, I mean, it's it's it happens
in the middle of the night. You feel it, And
so I haven't now that you mentioned that, Heather, I
haven't felt that since I got out of.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
My cold lunch that didn't huh, So maybe that maybe
I'm cured. Wow, there's something to it. We've cracked the code.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Hell yeah, cold showers for everybody and stay off the treadmill.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
All right.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So I saw this first thing this morning, and it's
all over television news, because why would it not be.
The pictures are incredible of this sanitation tunnel. I have
never seen such a massive tunnel. This is an LA
County sanitation tunnel under construction in Wilmington, and it was
a partial collapse last night that left thirty one workers
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scrambling to make their way to safety. Now they it's
it's an eighteen foot diameter tunnel. It even looked bigger
than that on TV news. But the workers were more
than five miles from the access point when the partial
partial collapse occurred. Five miles. I mean that's panic. I
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guess if you go to work in a tunnel, you
know you're working in a tunnel. You get past that
maybe the first day, the second day, the day you
get your paycheck, because you got to get that paycheck.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I don't know, but that's terrifying.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
More than one hundred LA Firefighters Dispatch Search and Rescue
Team specially trained and equipped to handle confined space tunnel rescues.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
What's that training like? Where you're just did you ever
have to do any of this?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Elmer any sort of like rescue training in the military
involving tunnels.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Uh uh no, but we I guess taking shelter for
like bomb raids, okay, but like tunnel.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
In small space is yeah. Yeah, that's terrifying. I couldn't
do it. Claustrophobia. I could not do claustrophobic. Yeah, I mean,
just thinking about it makes me a little bit uneasy.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Twenty seven men inside the tunnel at the time of
the collapse, and then four others that entered to try
and help. They said the debris did not completely fill
the tunnel and the men were able to climb back
through the area where the collapse took place. It is
the clear Water project, designed to carry treated, clean wastewater
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from the Joint Water Pollution Control Plant to the ocean. Well,
that'll provide some camaraderie. Hey, I remember on Thursday and
Wednesday and we got trapped in that tunnel. They're going
to have to obviously go in and assess the condition
before they allow people to go back to that work site.
Don't know how long they want to make sure the
tunnel is safe because well, you know, liability. I'd like
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to say they care about the people working in it,
but it's a big price tag if something goes wrong again.
Apparently the men were alive and happy, very shaken up
when they were able to be ferried from the place
where they were able to escape the dicey situation, the
dicey area of the collapse, and they were ferried by
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car I guess to get back and then hoisted out
of there. But some tense moments that could have gone
very bad. That could have been a major disaster. Thirty
one guys underneath there all right? Coming up next. Oh,
we love a conspiracy theory, don't we. Have you ever
talked about cloud seating with people? Oh my gosh, yes,
Oh my god. You bring up cloud seating and people
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that you didn't even know were into conspiracy theories are
super into them.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Ooh, this is gonna be good. I'm excited for this
one and we'll talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
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Speaker 1 (15:53):
Coffee futures jumped today after Trump threatened fifty percent tariffs
on Brazil. Of course, the world's largest coffee producer, start
hoarding the coffee. I guess I will do that. I
do love the coffee. I also need to fill out
my visa application to go to Brazil. Chargers play in
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Brazil in September, playing the Chiefs in week one, and
I've got to get that.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Phil who knows what's going to happen, right, It's just
the world. It's the world we lived in. That's cool, though,
you'll get to go to Brazil.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, except there are rumors that we're not going to
be able to leave the hotel.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Oh yeah, it's pretty quick like that.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
The football trips are fun, especially if you're there for
an extended period of time. But if you're just there
for you know, forty eight hours or something, it's pretty
tight rules on what you can do, where you can go.
They don't want any embarrassments, you know, they don't need
me in a gutter somewhere after, you know, getting some
questionable I don't know insert name of questionable.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, Elbert, listen, you know what we like to have
a good time, do we not? You want to experience.
You want to experience the lands that you go to.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
If there's some sort of local delicacy on some sort
of street corner, you don't know, if it's laced with
something you know, you're just trying to sample whatever the
foreign land brings alcohol, you know, local whatever. So that's
why they keep us in the hotel. We do have
a treat coming up for you guys. It's coming up
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after Heather's news at ten o'clock. There will be a
treat and it will be here. And that's all I'm
going to tell you. Okay, your treat may last for
quite a while. It may not just be like an
instant hit of adrenaline.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Treat. It may last a while. Please tell me what
it is. No, you have to wait for it, Albert, Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So cloud seating, this is the latest conspiracy theory move
aside Kem Trails. Well, you'll always have a devoted base
Kem Trails, you know you will. But cloud seating is
the new hotness when it comes toises.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
And guess what, it's not new. This is not new.
This has been going on since the forties.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Augustus Durrico is one of the people in the cloud
seating business. He began his startup in twenty twenty three,
and he knew when he started out that he would
have to contend with misunderstandings and conspiracy theories. Surrounding this technology,
but he wasn't ready for what happened in the past week.
After the catastrophic floods that hit Texas killed more than
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one hundred people twice that nearly twice that missing. He said,
it has been NonStop pandemonium with people blaming companies like
his and his company actually specifically for what happened. His
company is named rain Maker, and rain Makers picking up
steam when it comes to the steam of hate online.
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A lot of posts across social media that suggests the
floods there in Kerr County, Texas were a human made disaster.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
And it's not just rumors.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
It is an array of influencers, known influencers, media personalities,
elected official officials, Marjorie Tailor Green being one of them,
and other prominent feature figures. Former Trump advisor Michael Flynn
is in on this. They're all raising the possibility that
cloud seating operations like rain Makers may have caused or
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at least exacerbated those historic deluge conditions. Atmospheric scientists will
tell you that's impossible, but in the realm of conspiracy theories,
who wants to talk to a scientist cloud seating If
you're unfamiliar is when planes will scatter dust particles through
clouds to trigger.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Rain and snow.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
It is what they call a fledgling technology despite being
around since the forties. And you're not going to get
the fifteen inches of rain that drowned South central Texas
over the Fourth of July weekend by just cloud seating alone.
That's really impossible, even if you are a theorist when
it comes to this type of technology. Bob Rober is
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at the University of Illinois and he is an Atmospheric
Science Emeritis professor. He studied this technology.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
For many years.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
He says the amount of energy involving making storms like
that like the one we saw in Texas is astronomical
compared to anything you can do with cloud seating. But
that hasn't stopped people from talking about it. Part of
the reason is human nature. As soon as a crisis happens,
before it's even over, we start wanting to point the finger.
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We don't even wait till Monday morning to be the quarterback.
We start pointing the finger in the first quarter. Sometimes
we like to blame somebody. We have to make disasters
make sense in our minds. That's part of being a
human making everything makes sense in our lives. Why did
this happen? Well, it's because of this. Why is there
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traffic here? Oh, it's because of the construction going off.
If there's no road construction, how much time do you
spend thinking why the hell? Where's that traffic jam? Why
did that happen?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
What is it because five lanes went to three lanes?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Emerging problem people not know how to merge. I mean,
we get obsessed with things that we can't explain. So
that's why we're always looking for someone to blame during
a crisis, whether in this case it's the Weather Service,
the lack of funds to the Weather Service, the warning system,
the lack of a warning system. Somebody's always going to
get blame for an unexpected tragedy in the face of
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a disaster. And so now we've reached the conspiracy theory
is the culprit chapter of this. We do know this
much is true on the afternoon of July second, because
it is rooted.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
This is not just hysterics for the sake of hysterics.
It is rooted in something.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
On the afternoon of July second, a single engine plane
operated by rain Maker, which is based in El Segondo.
By the way, blu on a cloud seating job over
Texas about a mile one hundred miles southeast one hundred
miles southeast of Kirk County was an actual cloud seating
operation two days before.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
This happened.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Over the course of twenty minutes, it released about seventy
grams of silver iodide into a pair of clouds, and
the mission was followed by a modest drizzle dropped less
than a half a centimeter of rain over the parched
fields below. This was part of a deal that was
done through a government agency in Texas. We'll talk about
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why people think that that cloud seating operation is to blame,
and the science behind it and does the math add up.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 1 (22:50):
Who's excited for their treat that's coming up at ten?
I know, I am, I know we too, all right,
So we're talking about cloud seating and how this is
being blamed for the devastation we've seen in Texas. It
happened overnight on July fourth, and some people are blaming
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an operation that did happen in Texas. About one hundred
miles from where that disastrous flooding occurred. It was, as
I mentioned, July second, the afternoon when a single engine
plane operated by this Elsigundo based startup, rain Maker, flew
on the cloud seating job and they released about seventy
grams of the silver iodide into a pair of clouds
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and it did what it was supposed to do. It
was followed by some drizzle dropped a half a centimeter
of rain over the farms that were in drought conditions below.
That's why people hire cloud seating companies like Rainmaker, And
that particular job was set up by South Texas.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Weather Modification Association.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
This is a nonprofit funded by local water management district
to refill water reservoirs and boost rainfall over these drought.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Stricken crop lands.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Soon after that mission, the head of rain Maker the company,
they have a bunch of meteorologists on the staff and
they were working and they saw that there was a
stormfront approaching, so they called off their operations. So it's
two days before those big floods on the fourth. By
the morning of the fourth, the remnants of tropical Storm
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Berry had dumped up to fifteen inches of rain over
parts of Kerr County, which led to the flooding, But
online sleuths ran to the keyboards to talk about the
conspiracy theories about rain Maker. About the coincidence, Marjorie Taylor
Green said that any attempts to alter the weather should
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be a felony offense. She wants to introduce a bill
that would say so. Her post, by the way, call
her as crazy as crazy pants can. Her post drew
eighteen million views. So if Marjorie Taylor Green is crazy
in your opinion, she's got a lot of eyes on
her crazy a lot of people who sign up for that. Now.
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The guy who heads up rain Maker kind of knew
that this was going to happen. It's inevitable. You saw
the conspiracy theories coming from a mile even before what
happened in Texas. But he did push back on posts
on Twitter or x that showed pictures of the outside
of Rainmaker's office posted its address. X ultimately removed those posts.
(25:35):
He and his employees have not suffered any direct harm, thankfully.
But that's taking it too far, is it not. There
is the fact that some governments really are trying to
modify the weather. At least thirty nine countries have cloud
seating programs. There was a SUMBER report from the US
Department of Government Accountability that said so. It pointed out
(25:59):
that SHIN has invested at least two billions since twenty fourteen,
Saudi Arabia spent more than two hundred and fifty million
on cloud seating, and twenty twenty two alone United Arab Emirates,
India as well.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I was reading a story earlier, and maybe I'll get
to it later.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I don't remember where I was reading it this morning,
but it talked about how there are so many countries
that could not sustain themselves with food if they were
cut off. There's a handful of countries, a lot of
them in the Middle East, that rely overwhelmingly so on
outside sources for food. Ten states here in in the
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US a proposed or passed laws banning cloud seating. Nine
in the West amid the worst droughts some areas have
seen in twelve hundred years. The research when it comes
to cloud seating is limited, but it does work. It
does is evidenced by the very cloud seating job that
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was carried out in Texas on July second. Modern cloud
seating uses these techniques the federal government first tried in
the forties. Government scientists spent millions of dollars over decades
tinkering with clouds. So like I said, nothing new. In
the sixties, defense departments secretly tied tried to induce rainfall
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to wash out North Vietnamese supply routes. That one has
been reported on. Finally it was revealed in nineteen seventy one.
Another infamous instance, air Force pilot sprinkled dry ice into
a hurricane drifting over the Atlantic in nineteen forty seven
to see if they could disrupt its formation.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
That did not happen.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
It strengthened, it turned toward land, caused two million dollars
in damage. Federal government pretty much ended its cloud seating
experience in the nineteen eighties, but some investors have backed
companies recently, like rain Maker. In fact, they've raised thirty
one million in venture capital and have a workforce of
about fifty eight people. All right, coming up next, your
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treat will arrive. Actually Keana's titled it. She has a
title for it as well. It's called the Power Hour.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
What will that entail?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
All?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Coming up next? Right here on, Gary and Shannon, you've
been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.
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You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
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and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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happen on this show. It's one of the things I
love about this show. It's unlike other shows. You know,
you tune into other shows, you know what you're gonna get.
It's like McDonald's. It's lovely. I know when I pull
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up into that McDonald's drive through, it's gonna take me
about a minute and forty seven seconds to get that
mc chicken, and it's gonna taste exactly like the McChicken
that I had last week, or last year or in
nineteen ninety two. It is the same McChicken. There are
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That's not this show. You never know what you're gonna get.
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Remember that time we got a new pope.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Huh. I bet you didn't see that coming. I remember it. Yeah,
A good day. Yeah, it was a damn good day,
A gd good day, Heather.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
The thing is, when you know what you're gonna get, though,
no matter what, whether it's fresh or new or do
it's delicious and we love it and we come back
for it.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yes, thank you, Like yesterday we got mo Kelly. Didn't
see that coming, did you. Thank you Moe for filling in.
I had a doctor's appointment in the middle of the
day because that's when doctor's appointments are and these days,
I sort of got it take six months, six months
to get into a doctor's appointment.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It really does.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I have had some scheduled I had to move them
this week because I forgot I was filling in for
Amy and I had to reschedule him for the fall.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I was going to say probably for like six months.
It's crazy. A lot of doctors have left. They're into
the concierge medicine, and I understand that it's more lucrative,
but man, it's hard to get in there. So when
you get an appointment, you got to keep it. But
thank you to Moe Kelly for filling in. Not only
is there something new for everybody on this show every
day you don't know what's what you're gonna get. We
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also listen to you.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
We do. We listen. We listen to all your comments.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
We whether it be on talkback or on Facebook or
Twitter or what have you Instagram, and we try to
give you what you want and what you've been asking for.
I have listened to and what you've been asking for
is more Michael Monks, and I too have been asking
for more of the Monks, and so there is a
special treat for you coming up. While Gary remains on vacation,
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he sent me a cryptic text by the way yesterday,
and I don't know what it means. I don't know
if he's been kidnapped and drugged, but it was just
it was very cryptic and odd.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I don't even know what.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
It means, so I don't even want to I don't
even want to air it out in case someone figures
it out and it is some sort of like military
rescue signal or something. But anyway, Michael Monks, you'll be
getting more of So thank you for asking I too
was asking for it as well. Heather, have you have
you recovered from Michael Krozer's report?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Not yet, still thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I don't think I've ever heard it, because I did
that job for a number of years too. I don't
think I've ever heard a news anchor like say like
that was a good report. I like hearing from that
reporter like that never happens, I do.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I think we have some of the best and abiz
here and so I was like, I'm gonna give Crozier
so he has a very signature style to his reports.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
So I appreciate that, you know, and he appreciates you
noting that because so often people just they don't pay attention.
And so you got to pay attention to the newscast
or you miss the moment of fun times. The fun
times I feel you're going to ask me if I
wanted more Michael Monks, and the answer is yes.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Also, well I knew the answer to that.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Let's not be silly, okay, So I just wanted to
keep you on really quickly, not to distract you from
the news. But I am hearing more controversy about this
Superman movie than anything. I hear it on the radio,
in I hear it out in the halls. Is have
we reached peak? People want politics left out of their
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insert recreational activity here, sports, movies, what have you?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Is that? What's going on?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Are people politicizing this or is it just obviously political?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Well, you know what happened was somebody asked James gunn
a question on the Red Car during one of the premieres,
and said, is this a you know, an immigrant story?
Is this a story that's about immigration? And he kind
of awkwardly was like, well, you know, Superman is an immigrant.
You know, he is from a literal other planet. And
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but he said, it's for everybody. This is a movie
for everybody. And as someone who has seen the movie,
I just want to remind everybody that just because you
hear a little nugget of something and then some news
outlets just blow it up and throw it out there
and make it way more dramatic than it really is,
this movie didn't have like a message. I didn't walk
out of there being like, oh, I feel like I've
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my life has been changed by this message.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's Superman, right.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
You know, it's he He's flying around, he's got a cape,
he's rescuing people, he's fighting bad guys.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
That's the takeaway. It's Superman. Everyone come.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I have a real hard time when we talk about
boycotting superhero movies or football games or really anything. And
it's this twenty four hour cycle of media and just
saturation press. Saturation is where we live with our phones
constantly lighting up with news alerts at aren't news? How
often do you get your phone lighting up with something
from the Hollywood Reporter or TMZ or The Atlantic or whatever.
(05:13):
And I'm like, it used to just be, you know,
a plane has gone down, and now I'm getting these
alerts for everything. A comment that a director said on
the red carpet ten years ago, even certainly not twenty
or thirty years ago, you would never hear about it.
You'd go watch Superman, You'd enjoy yourself. You wouldn't even
think about politics or the ramifications or where does the
director come down on Torontald Trump or what have you. You
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wouldn't even think about it. It would be not even
on your mind. And the fact that these things are
in our mind when we go to have recreational activities
is sad, and I think we've reached peak that and.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
We definitely have. There are definitely some movies that are
geared towards that type of thing, like there are documentaries
that are made. There are movies that have a political stance,
But movies, inherently, since the dawn of movies, there has
been a story in and a somewhat of a message
and right, you know, behind them, that is the that
is the essence of storytelling in film and television. So
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to say I don't want a story in my movies.
I don't want anyone to tell them anything is a little,
a little nuts.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Twilight Zone case and point. Every twilight Zone has a message. Yeah,
I just wanted to watch the Barbie movie for the
outfits and the lighting and the set design and the
shoes and the Barbie feet. I didn't need a whole
thing about what does it all mean?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, we don't need a deep dive that way. But
also to your point about the endless news cycle, everyone,
please continue to listen to the KFI twenty four hour
Newsroom because every hour of every minute we are here.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
And on the quarter hour, that's right, we will continue.
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There is a new mystery surrounding the Scott Peterson case
that we're going to dive into coming up later on
the show. And the mystery is why are we trying
to free Scott Peterson? Why did the Innocence Project get involved?
The Innocence Project is set aside your hate that you
attribute to the Innocence Project.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
The basis of it is for good.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
It's for people who had been coerced into confessions. It's
for people who were maligned in jurisdictions where law enforcement
is not upstanding. It is for people that don't have voices.
The Innocence Project is not a bad deal.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
It is about.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Freaking people who were wrongfully convicted, which I think we
can all get on board with. What a horror to
be convicted of something you didn't do. Can you imagine
I've had nightmares like this where I'm found guilty or
I'm arrested for something I didn't do and there's just
no way out. It is a real life nightmare for people,
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and the Innocence Project does really good work for that
for that group of people. Unfortunately, why the hell are
they busying themselves with Scott Peterson. That is not what
the Innocence Project was created to do. It's a mystery
and there may be some answers about why they get
involved got involved. We'll talk about that coming up later
in the program. But first we have your chance at
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And remember to check your email because that's how they
will notify you if you want. Check that junk folder
as well, because sometimes they end up there before I
get into this tunnel collapse and rescue. Who doesn't love
a tunnel collapse? Oh maybe not a collapse, but a rescue.
I think it goes back to our baby, Jessica Roots.
I tried an ice bath this morning, you guys, Okay,
(09:06):
not really, but you know there's all this talk about
cold plunges and how it's good for you, and I
know athletes have done this forever, but there's been all
of this this fad talk about cold plunges, jumping into
a cold pool or whatever, and how it you do it.
First thing, it helps her out your day, gives you energy,
helps you to burn calories. All the things, all the
(09:28):
good things that the fad diets are trends purport to do.
So this morning, I'm taking a shower and I was like,
you know, I'm gonna try this whole cold plunge thing.
So I just turned it to cold.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
How did that work coming for?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And I was like, look at me, cold plunging in
the shower, all proud of myself for the twenty one
seconds it lasted.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I mean it's tough.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I put conditioner in my hair and so I was like, okay,
we at least I'm committing to washing out the conditioner, right,
So I got it. At least stay in the cold,
ice cold water long enough to wash it out.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So I did. But man, that's cold. But I gotta
say it does wake you up. I felt energized after.
It's like a shot of coffee, little shot of caffeine. Yeah,
wake up with a cold.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I know people that have actually bought the tubs, the
actual like they look like hot tubs, but they're smaller
and they're just for cold plunges and they do it
every day.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Where do they put these tubs in the backyard in
the basement, like in the back patio like a hot tub,
like you would put out there in the hot tub,
and they just go out there and sit for ninety seconds,
sixty seconds whatever it is. Oh, okay, good, So I
wasn't that far off. They're not in there for ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I know.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
There's this influencer and her husband that live like up
in the mountain somewhere, I think Alaska, and they have
one of those tubs that always freezes over and they're
always taking videos of them breaking the eyes and.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
The eyes getting into the ones.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
And they have coffee and they sit there and they
chat and I'm like, I'm freezing watching you guys. I'm
gonna take my hot shower now. Like I could not what.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And what do they say is a benefit?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Because I was just trying to go through the benefits
and I kind of think I was making them up
because I really don't remember what the benefits are from
what the experts have said or whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
It make me like, improved mood, increase, metabolism, better blood
sugar regulation, yeah, reduced and so muscle soreness.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
That's a big one.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I'm a friend who's a runner who does it.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I decided because last week I had my birthday and
whenever I'm around my birthday, I try to do things
that make me feel good about being old.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
And I went to.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
This workout place and at five am, because one of
my girlfriends from high school is still in my hometown
and she goes to this five am workout thing where
you just get on a treadmill at five am, you
just go. And I did it last week because I'm
because I'm because I'm stupid, because I'm a stupid ass,
because I don't do I don't get on the treadmill,
let alone at five am. And I decided just to
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like do that for a couple times last week. And
I got shin splints for the first time. Oh that's
my man. Those don't play like those are a situation.
Luckily I just got it in one of them. But
how it feels like, I mean, it's it's it happens
in the middle of the night. You feel it, And
so I haven't now that you mentioned that, Heather, I
haven't felt that since I got out of.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
My cold lunch that didn't huh, So maybe that maybe
I'm cured. Wow, there's something to it. We've cracked the code.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Hell yeah, cold showers for everybody and stay off the treadmill.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
All right.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So I saw this first thing this morning, and it's
all over television news, because why would it not be.
The pictures are incredible of this sanitation tunnel. I have
never seen such a massive tunnel. This is an LA
County sanitation tunnel under construction in Wilmington, and it was
a partial collapse last night that left thirty one workers
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scrambling to make their way to safety. Now they it's
it's an eighteen foot diameter tunnel. It even looked bigger
than that on TV news. But the workers were more
than five miles from the access point when the partial
partial collapse occurred. Five miles. I mean that's panic. I
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guess if you go to work in a tunnel, you
know you're working in a tunnel. You get past that
maybe the first day, the second day, the day you
get your paycheck, because you got to get that paycheck.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I don't know, but that's terrifying.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
More than one hundred LA Firefighters Dispatch Search and Rescue
Team specially trained and equipped to handle confined space tunnel rescues.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
What's that training like? Where you're just did you ever
have to do any of this?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Elmer any sort of like rescue training in the military
involving tunnels.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Uh uh no, but we I guess taking shelter for
like bomb raids, okay, but like tunnel.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
In small space is yeah. Yeah, that's terrifying. I couldn't
do it. Claustrophobia. I could not do claustrophobic. Yeah, I mean,
just thinking about it makes me a little bit uneasy.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Twenty seven men inside the tunnel at the time of
the collapse, and then four others that entered to try
and help. They said the debris did not completely fill
the tunnel and the men were able to climb back
through the area where the collapse took place. It is
the clear Water project, designed to carry treated, clean wastewater
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from the Joint Water Pollution Control Plant to the ocean. Well,
that'll provide some camaraderie. Hey, I remember on Thursday and
Wednesday and we got trapped in that tunnel. They're going
to have to obviously go in and assess the condition
before they allow people to go back to that work site.
Don't know how long they want to make sure the
tunnel is safe because well, you know, liability. I'd like
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to say they care about the people working in it,
but it's a big price tag if something goes wrong again.
Apparently the men were alive and happy, very shaken up
when they were able to be ferried from the place
where they were able to escape the dicey situation, the
dicey area of the collapse, and they were ferried by
(15:16):
car I guess to get back and then hoisted out
of there. But some tense moments that could have gone
very bad. That could have been a major disaster. Thirty
one guys underneath there all right? Coming up next. Oh,
we love a conspiracy theory, don't we. Have you ever
talked about cloud seating with people? Oh my gosh, yes,
Oh my god. You bring up cloud seating and people
(15:37):
that you didn't even know were into conspiracy theories are
super into them.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Ooh, this is gonna be good. I'm excited for this
one and we'll talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Coffee futures jumped today after Trump threatened fifty percent tariffs
on Brazil. Of course, the world's largest coffee producer, start
hoarding the coffee. I guess I will do that. I
do love the coffee. I also need to fill out
my visa application to go to Brazil. Chargers play in
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Brazil in September, playing the Chiefs in week one, and
I've got to get that.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Phil who knows what's going to happen, right, It's just
the world. It's the world we lived in. That's cool, though,
you'll get to go to Brazil.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, except there are rumors that we're not going to
be able to leave the hotel.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Oh yeah, it's pretty quick like that.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
The football trips are fun, especially if you're there for
an extended period of time. But if you're just there
for you know, forty eight hours or something, it's pretty
tight rules on what you can do, where you can go.
They don't want any embarrassments, you know, they don't need
me in a gutter somewhere after, you know, getting some
questionable I don't know insert name of questionable.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, Elbert, listen, you know what we like to have
a good time, do we not? You want to experience.
You want to experience the lands that you go to.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
If there's some sort of local delicacy on some sort
of street corner, you don't know, if it's laced with
something you know, you're just trying to sample whatever the
foreign land brings alcohol, you know, local whatever. So that's
why they keep us in the hotel. We do have
a treat coming up for you guys. It's coming up
(17:25):
after Heather's news at ten o'clock. There will be a
treat and it will be here. And that's all I'm
going to tell you. Okay, your treat may last for
quite a while. It may not just be like an
instant hit of adrenaline.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Treat. It may last a while. Please tell me what
it is. No, you have to wait for it, Albert, Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So cloud seating, this is the latest conspiracy theory move
aside Kem Trails. Well, you'll always have a devoted base
Kem Trails, you know you will. But cloud seating is
the new hotness when it comes toises.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
And guess what, it's not new. This is not new.
This has been going on since the forties.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Augustus Durrico is one of the people in the cloud
seating business. He began his startup in twenty twenty three,
and he knew when he started out that he would
have to contend with misunderstandings and conspiracy theories. Surrounding this technology,
but he wasn't ready for what happened in the past week.
After the catastrophic floods that hit Texas killed more than
(18:28):
one hundred people twice that nearly twice that missing. He said,
it has been NonStop pandemonium with people blaming companies like
his and his company actually specifically for what happened. His
company is named rain Maker, and rain Makers picking up
steam when it comes to the steam of hate online.
(18:48):
A lot of posts across social media that suggests the
floods there in Kerr County, Texas were a human made disaster.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
And it's not just rumors.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
It is an array of influencers, known influencers, media personalities,
elected official officials, Marjorie Tailor Green being one of them,
and other prominent feature figures. Former Trump advisor Michael Flynn
is in on this. They're all raising the possibility that
cloud seating operations like rain Makers may have caused or
(19:21):
at least exacerbated those historic deluge conditions. Atmospheric scientists will
tell you that's impossible, but in the realm of conspiracy theories,
who wants to talk to a scientist cloud seating If
you're unfamiliar is when planes will scatter dust particles through
clouds to trigger.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Rain and snow.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
It is what they call a fledgling technology despite being
around since the forties. And you're not going to get
the fifteen inches of rain that drowned South central Texas
over the Fourth of July weekend by just cloud seating alone.
That's really impossible, even if you are a theorist when
it comes to this type of technology. Bob Rober is
(20:08):
at the University of Illinois and he is an Atmospheric
Science Emeritis professor. He studied this technology.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
For many years.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
He says the amount of energy involving making storms like
that like the one we saw in Texas is astronomical
compared to anything you can do with cloud seating. But
that hasn't stopped people from talking about it. Part of
the reason is human nature. As soon as a crisis happens,
before it's even over, we start wanting to point the finger.
(20:37):
We don't even wait till Monday morning to be the quarterback.
We start pointing the finger in the first quarter. Sometimes
we like to blame somebody. We have to make disasters
make sense in our minds. That's part of being a
human making everything makes sense in our lives. Why did
this happen? Well, it's because of this. Why is there
(20:58):
traffic here? Oh, it's because of the construction going off.
If there's no road construction, how much time do you
spend thinking why the hell? Where's that traffic jam? Why
did that happen?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
What is it because five lanes went to three lanes?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Emerging problem people not know how to merge. I mean,
we get obsessed with things that we can't explain. So
that's why we're always looking for someone to blame during
a crisis, whether in this case it's the Weather Service,
the lack of funds to the Weather Service, the warning system,
the lack of a warning system. Somebody's always going to
get blame for an unexpected tragedy in the face of
(21:33):
a disaster. And so now we've reached the conspiracy theory
is the culprit chapter of this. We do know this
much is true on the afternoon of July second, because
it is rooted.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
This is not just hysterics for the sake of hysterics.
It is rooted in something.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
On the afternoon of July second, a single engine plane
operated by rain Maker, which is based in El Segondo.
By the way, blu on a cloud seating job over
Texas about a mile one hundred miles southeast one hundred
miles southeast of Kirk County was an actual cloud seating
operation two days before.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
This happened.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Over the course of twenty minutes, it released about seventy
grams of silver iodide into a pair of clouds, and
the mission was followed by a modest drizzle dropped less
than a half a centimeter of rain over the parched
fields below. This was part of a deal that was
done through a government agency in Texas. We'll talk about
(22:34):
why people think that that cloud seating operation is to blame,
and the science behind it and does the math add up.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Who's excited for their treat that's coming up at ten?
I know, I am, I know we too, all right,
So we're talking about cloud seating and how this is
being blamed for the devastation we've seen in Texas. It
happened overnight on July fourth, and some people are blaming
(23:12):
an operation that did happen in Texas. About one hundred
miles from where that disastrous flooding occurred. It was, as
I mentioned, July second, the afternoon when a single engine
plane operated by this Elsigundo based startup, rain Maker, flew
on the cloud seating job and they released about seventy
grams of the silver iodide into a pair of clouds
(23:34):
and it did what it was supposed to do. It
was followed by some drizzle dropped a half a centimeter
of rain over the farms that were in drought conditions below.
That's why people hire cloud seating companies like Rainmaker, And
that particular job was set up by South Texas.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Weather Modification Association.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
This is a nonprofit funded by local water management district
to refill water reservoirs and boost rainfall over these drought.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Stricken crop lands.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Soon after that mission, the head of rain Maker the company,
they have a bunch of meteorologists on the staff and
they were working and they saw that there was a
stormfront approaching, so they called off their operations. So it's
two days before those big floods on the fourth. By
the morning of the fourth, the remnants of tropical Storm
(24:29):
Berry had dumped up to fifteen inches of rain over
parts of Kerr County, which led to the flooding, But
online sleuths ran to the keyboards to talk about the
conspiracy theories about rain Maker. About the coincidence, Marjorie Taylor
Green said that any attempts to alter the weather should
(24:51):
be a felony offense. She wants to introduce a bill
that would say so. Her post, by the way, call
her as crazy as crazy pants can. Her post drew
eighteen million views. So if Marjorie Taylor Green is crazy
in your opinion, she's got a lot of eyes on
her crazy a lot of people who sign up for that. Now.
(25:12):
The guy who heads up rain Maker kind of knew
that this was going to happen. It's inevitable. You saw
the conspiracy theories coming from a mile even before what
happened in Texas. But he did push back on posts
on Twitter or x that showed pictures of the outside
of Rainmaker's office posted its address. X ultimately removed those posts.
(25:35):
He and his employees have not suffered any direct harm, thankfully.
But that's taking it too far, is it not. There
is the fact that some governments really are trying to
modify the weather. At least thirty nine countries have cloud
seating programs. There was a SUMBER report from the US
Department of Government Accountability that said so. It pointed out
(25:59):
that SHIN has invested at least two billions since twenty fourteen,
Saudi Arabia spent more than two hundred and fifty million
on cloud seating, and twenty twenty two alone United Arab Emirates,
India as well.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I was reading a story earlier, and maybe I'll get
to it later.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I don't remember where I was reading it this morning,
but it talked about how there are so many countries
that could not sustain themselves with food if they were
cut off. There's a handful of countries, a lot of
them in the Middle East, that rely overwhelmingly so on
outside sources for food. Ten states here in in the
(26:37):
US a proposed or passed laws banning cloud seating. Nine
in the West amid the worst droughts some areas have
seen in twelve hundred years. The research when it comes
to cloud seating is limited, but it does work. It
does is evidenced by the very cloud seating job that
(26:59):
was carried out in Texas on July second. Modern cloud
seating uses these techniques the federal government first tried in
the forties. Government scientists spent millions of dollars over decades
tinkering with clouds. So like I said, nothing new. In
the sixties, defense departments secretly tied tried to induce rainfall
(27:20):
to wash out North Vietnamese supply routes. That one has
been reported on. Finally it was revealed in nineteen seventy one.
Another infamous instance, air Force pilot sprinkled dry ice into
a hurricane drifting over the Atlantic in nineteen forty seven
to see if they could disrupt its formation.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
That did not happen.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
It strengthened, it turned toward land, caused two million dollars
in damage. Federal government pretty much ended its cloud seating
experience in the nineteen eighties, but some investors have backed
companies recently, like rain Maker. In fact, they've raised thirty
one million in venture capital and have a workforce of
about fifty eight people. All right, coming up next, your
(28:02):
treat will arrive. Actually Keana's titled it. She has a
title for it as well. It's called the Power Hour.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
What will that entail?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
All?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Coming up next? Right here on, Gary and Shannon, you've
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