June 30, 2025 • 22 mins
A violent ambush in Idaho has resulted in the deaths of two firefighters and left one more injured. The Senate has commenced a "Vote-a-rama" related to Big Beautiful Bill. Senator Thom Tillis and House GOP member Don Bacon have announced that they will not seek re-election. Additionally, a rude guest behavior is negatively impacting the experience of Disneyland rides for other visitors.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Welcome to to Monday. It's June thirtieth. Shannon's out today.
She'll be back tomorrow to kick off the entire month
of July. And by the way, we're working on the
fourth of July, so we will be doing the show
on Friday, getting you ready for whatever you have planned
for your Fourth of July Independence Day. A bunch of
fires that are burning out in the lampire that we'll
(00:29):
talk about next hour. But the firefighting job just got
a lot more dangerous. Yesterday in Idaho, a sniper shot
and killed two firefighters and injured a third one in
an ambush attack in Idaho. They were just able to
identify the guy a short time ago, a guy named
excuse me.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Wes Rolly.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
His body was found near his weapon, they said, at
the scene of a fire that he apparently started just yesterday.
And the thinking is that he did it to lure
in firefighters from the Cordelaine Fire Department there on Canfield Mountain.
So the whole start of all of this was what
now we referred to as the Nettleton Gulch fire and
(01:14):
call started coming in at about one fifteen one twenty
yesterday on the outskirts of Cordlaine, Idaho, and about forty
minutes after the firefighters got out there, they said they
were being shot at. This is some of the emergency
calls going out from the unit that was on the scene.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Oh did you want ten?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Pork here shot get out of the way ten or fourteen?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Aw first five? Did you want do not come up here?
On copies remain Staging.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Five is at the upper parking lot, that upper parking
lot on the Derup parking lot. When he law enforcement
up there immediately law enforcem up here, immediately got the
other park lie in any yeahfore we go another another lane.
Firefighters down immediately. We need law enforcement immediately another time,
(02:07):
continuing us.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
You can hear how frenetic that was. Right.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
So as the shooting unfolded, the firefighters are asking for help.
They're telling everybody they're waiting behind one of the rigs,
trying to shield themselves from the gunfire. More than three
hundred law enforcement officers from around the state of Idaho,
from eastern Washington, from Montana all poured into that area,
including the FBI.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
As evening fell.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
They were able to use cell phone data to triangulate
at about three o'clock when the phone turned on. When
a phone turned on up in those hills there, that's
when they found him and his body.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Well, that's when they found his body.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Added that the body had to be moved because the
fire that he set was still spreading pretty rapidly, so
they couldn't just investigate from where he was laying. They
had to take him somewhere else. At this point, it
looks like suicide, but they simply don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
One of the things that you don't often hear is
law enforcement asking for anybody who has a clear shot
to take this guy out. The Kotenye County Sheriff Robert
Norris said as much yesterday in the one of the
early news conferences.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
We are prepared to neutralize this suspect who is currently
actively shooting at public safety personnel. I'm hoping that somebody
has a clear shot and is able to neutralize because
they are not at this point in time showing any
(03:47):
evidence of wanting to surrender.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Again, they did find this guy's body, he's been identified
so far as Wes Rowley.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
By law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Not a whole lot is known about this guy, and
again they don't know if he killed himself, where if
somebody was able to take the shot and get this
guy out of there. The two firefighters have not yet
been identified the two that were killed. A third firefighter
is in the hospital and still fighting for his life.
In all this, this is not it is very rare,
(04:16):
but it is also not unheard of that firefighters can
get are threatened in situations like this. We've seen it
here in LA, We've seen it under the parts of
the country where firefighters rolling into arguably save someone's life
then become the targets in some of these instances.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
So we'll keep an eye on that story.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
The fire itself is still burning, by the way, again
the Nettleton Gulch Fire just outside of Quarterlane, Idaho.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
So we've got our own fire weather to deal with.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Northern California in fact, is going to see some red
flag fire warnings through today. I think they get posted
in a couple of hours and then we'll stay through
today all the way into tomorrow because the high winds
that are up there, and we'll talk about that. Also,
I had an interesting field trip on Saturday. Wife and
I went to Malibu and Pacific Palisades on Saturday. First
(05:09):
time i'd been there probably in a couple of years,
and obviously the first time since the fires that roared
through there in January. Speechless, unbelievable the amount of destruction.
And last week we heard stories about how businesses are
struggling because now that PCH has reopened, very few people
(05:33):
want to go through there. But the place we went
was pretty packed. We'll tell you about that next hour
as well. But we come back. The vote Harama has
begun and there is one specific crack that has shown up.
We know that there are two senators who say they
will vote against President Trump's Big Beautiful bill, and now
there's a possibility of a third. And if that's the case,
(05:55):
that thing is in serious trouble. We'll talk about all
of that when we come back.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Well, you can be very clear that Republicans and Democrats
do not see eye to eye when it comes to
what's going on in the Big Beautiful bill that's making
its way through the Senate. We do expect to see
a vote late today later at least today. This voting
session that's going on on this big, beautiful infrastructure tax bill,
(06:30):
et cetera, is the voting is all about these amendments
that different senators can try to throw in there.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
They call it vote rama. It takes a few minutes
each time.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Some of them are completely not related to what the
bill itself.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Is, even though it's related to a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
The hours long voting session was delayed yesterday because Democrats
forced the Senate clerks to read the entire nine hundred
and forty page bill, which was almost sixteen hours, and
then followed by debate on the bill itself that lasted
well into the night into this morning before they finally
(07:06):
recessed and then come back to whatever's going on today,
this vote rama. So right now, here's a couple of
things that we know. Republicans need to hold fifty of
their fifty three senators to pass the bill, because at
fifty yes, it would be a tie. But we know
the jd Vance as Vice President comes in works as
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the president of the Senate, and tile breaks the tie.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
He would vote in favor of this thing.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
We know that Rand Paul, the Senator out of Kentucky,
was a no from the beginning. He has been a
no and will remain a know and then because, among
other things, he said, it adds too much to the
national debt. Senator Tom Tillis, Republican out of North Carolina,
is concerned about Medicaid cuts and what sort of damage
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it would do to his state of North Carolina. So
he says, what do I tell six hundred and sixty
three thousand people in two or three years when President
Trump breaks his promise by pushing them off Medicaid. Tom
Tillis has not held back in his criticism of Trump,
and we'll actually talk about it a little bit more
(08:16):
in the next segment because he has now drawn the
ire of President Trump and decided he's getting out of
politics altogether.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
He can't stand this. But here's where it meets the road.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
So that's two defectors from the Republican Party who have
at this point said they're a voting no.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Now there's a.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Couple of centrist Republicans who in many cases have voted
against President Trump, Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski
of Alaska.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Technically they're still a little bit up in the air.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Susan Collins, you can't rely on herd it to vote
fully with the Republican Party, and Lisa Murkowski is very
similar to that. Lisa Rakowski says she's offering an amendment
to the bill that would tie eligibility for wind and
solar tax credit to the start of a project's construction,
which is a change from the way that it's written
(09:12):
in there right now. They updated the text of this
thing late last week that would require solar and wind
generation projects that want to qualify for the investment tax
credit to be started by twenty twenty seven. It's more
restrictive than the other one that they were talking about.
Lisa Murkowski said this move would be disastrous in her
(09:35):
disastrous in her state of Alaska. So she's trying to
get something specific for the state of Alaska. If she doesn't,
is it enough to get her to vote no on
this thing? Possibly even again, even if she votes, know
that still fifty yes votes that would be plenty. They
(09:56):
don't want to do this, but they would just call
in jd Vance and have him asked the tiebreaker. It's
not a done deal by any means. Over the next
several hours. All of these votes that are going on
with these amendments could give us some amount of insight
into people like Lisa Murkowski or Susan Collins or somebody else,
some other Republican who to this point hasn't come forward
(10:19):
and said they're a no but then eventually casts a
no vote. If you have come out against this thing,
President Trump is going after you. And we'll talk about
at least a couple of guys who have been on
the wrong end of his ire and have said, you
know what, this politics thing sucks that I'm out. Don Bacon,
(10:43):
Tom Tillis. Those are just two of the latest guys.
We'll talk about that when we come back.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I mentioned that the Senate is inching a little bit closer,
it looks like to a final vote on President Trump's
big beautiful bill. Face is really one more obstacle before
lawmakers go on record.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
The vote rama.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
They wrapped up several hours of debate today, and this
vote rama is when lawmakers on either side can come
in and introduce amendments, some of them deal directly with
what's going on in the bill. Others just I mean,
like renaming a space station after Gomer Pile or whatever
(11:29):
they do. Senate Republicans are going to use their time.
They're trying to change this. I mentioned the Lisa Murkowski
amendment that she was talking about changing the way solar
and energy credits are offered. And others will try to
massage this thing to make it more amenable to those
(11:50):
people who may be sort of on the fence on
all of this. Tom Tillis has come out and said
he's a no you got Ran Paul out of Kentucky.
Hates this thing adds too much money to the debt.
And Tom Tillis had come out and said he's concerned
about Medicaid cuts and what that would do to the
people of North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
So President Trump went after Tom Tillis.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Trump said he was a talker and a complainer who
was even worse than Rand Paul. In fact, Trump wrote
on truth Social Saturday night, numerous people have come forward
wanting to run in the primary against Senator Tom Tillis.
I will be meeting with them over the coming weeks,
looking for someone who will properly represent the great people
of North Carolina, and so importantly the people of the
(12:37):
United States. Two very fiery Senate speeches yesterday, Tillis accused
Republicans of rushing to pass this thing because of the
artificial deadline, which was put again. President Trump doesn't have
to have this done by the fourth of July, but
he wants to have it done by the fourth of July,
(13:00):
just so that he can say fourth of July Independence Day,
all that sort of stuff. This is what Tillis said
last night.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
But what we're doing because we've got a view on
an artificial deadline on July fourth that means nothing but
another date in time. We could take the time to
get this right if we lay down the house mark
of the Medicaid bill and fix it.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
So Tom Tillis, savaged by Donald Trump, then comes out
and says he is not going to seek reelection.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
He will not run for a third term.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
This scrambles whatever we knew about the Senate race in
North Carolina and injects a whole lot of uncertainty as
we go through these next few hours, as the Senate
tries to pass this thing. At least Senate Republicans try
to pass this thing. Congressman Don Bacon. Now the House
would get a chance to look at the bill again
after the Senate passes it. Don Bacon, out of Nebraska,
(13:56):
is going to leave Congress after this term. He at
this point has not yet decided whether or not he
is going to vote for this thing when it comes
back into the House. But his announcement that he's not
going to run for reelection comes as we've just got
a couple of days left in this thing. Bacon is
considered one of the pivotal votes in the House. He
says he's waiting to see what passes out of the
(14:18):
Senate before he decides what to do.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
He said, I'm not a yes necessarily.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
The Senate released the revised vision version, I should say,
But he says, it'll come down to the bad outweigh
the good, or the good outweigh the bad by the
time it's done. His concerns, like Tom Tillis, have to
do with the Medicaid provisions and the rollback of some
of those clean energy cuts clean energy tax credits.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I should say, all right.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Theme parks can bring out the best in humans and
the worst in humans. There is a funny article about
how rude people can be at Disneyland. Now, it's not
that it's Disney Disneyland is not what brings it out
in people. It's the idea that humans have forgotten to
act around other humans. I'll tell you this story, but
(15:08):
I'd love to hear your version. The worst behavior that
you've seen in a theme park, especially there you're with
there with your kids, and someone's making an ass of
themselves and you got to explain, well, kids, sometimes other
people are asses.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
We'll talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
What's what's the worst behavior you've seen at a theme park?
When I say theme park, everybody's going to think Disneyland.
And yes, there is a There is a story about
Disneyland that was written by Katie Dowd, a writer for
the San Francisco Chronicles.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
She described actually what is not even close to.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
The worst behavior, but she was apparently in haunted mansion
and you get into the the elevator, you know, the
giant elevator that the room stretches, and you go down
into the doom buggies where the guy says, I am
your host, your ghost host kindly step all the way in,
(16:10):
make room for every there's no turning back now, no
windows and no door.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Now, when you're in there.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And people are word for word saying it at the
same time that Paul Freeze is narrating it, it's annoying.
Nine times out of ten someone is doing the Paul
Freeze voice while Paul Freeze is doing the voice. It's
not new, it's not new, but they said that there's
(16:45):
She writes Katie out again. She writes, no one comes
to Disneyland with a dream of hearing random strangers recite voiceovers.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
And just because you've.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Been on this ride enough times and you could see
the YouTube videos and TikTok, etc. That you can memorize
this thing that doesn't make you cool. And if you're
at Disneyland for the first time, you came from Topeka
and this is your first time at Disneyland, you don't
want to hear other people doing the voice for you.
For example, she describes that she's on Pirates of the
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Caribbean and she said it's been years since she's been
able to just sit on the ride and enjoy that
thing in silence. Because some people find it a nice
fifteen minute break from the heat. So they're chatting away
like this as a park bench somewhere New Orleans Square,
when in fact they're on the ride. And she said
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on a recent trip, the group behind her, full grown
adults they'd met up at Disneyland after work, spent the
entire scene arguing about how loud they should scream on
the drop, because again, if you've been there multiple times,
you know what's coming. But if you're from Topeka, you.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Don't know that.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
As soon as that little veil lists and that funny
projected thing on the mist of water, you're going to
go down.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
You don't know that.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
And that's part of the joy of riding that thing
for the first time. She also said on It's a
Small World, a dad started shifting his weight back and
forth to make the boat rock on what is not
an exciting ride, and his kids were laughing, and another
guy and his party laughed along. They decided to ruin
(18:29):
the ride for everybody else. So I want to ask you,
what's the worst thing that's happened to you at a
theme park? I know, Keana, you said that you've had
some bad stories.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
Well, I used to work there.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Oh look at that.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
Yeah, So One of the most memorable things that happened
to me as a cast member with the guest was
they had a hissy fit over a fruit cup. We
ran out of fruit cups and we were prepping more
in the.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Back fruit cups. Yeah, and I I told.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Her, you know, we're prepping some more. Give it like
twenty minutes and we'll have some more ready for you.
And she got so mad and through a temper tantrum
in the middle of the line when there were ten
other people. I was the only cashier, and her husband
was trying so hard to like pull her away from
the line, just please, like it's okay. I gave her
(19:24):
another option. There's another cart over there. You could get
your fruit cup. It's all the same, but here and
our spot we don't have them. Would not take no
for an answer. Finally, her husband like dragged her away.
She was practically kicking and screaming, I kid you, not
over a fruit cup. And I will always take that
(19:44):
away my experience there.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
What I the way it's described a lot is people
forgot the difference between actions in your own home and
actions in public, Like you forget that the things you
do at home.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
For me, walking around in my boxer shorts.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I'm not supposed to do those things in public, and
for a lot of people, it's just outright rude behavior.
You could be a deed to your husband or your
wife or your kids. You shouldn't, but you could. And
then when you do it in public and everybody gets
to see it, it just makes you look awful.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Well and then and then I also worked as a
cast member at Toy Story Midway Mania. I was an
attractions host. Our ride is notorious for breaking down. We've
had adults come and try to fight our leads because
the ride was always down. And one morning we opened
up and our ride wasn't opening on time as scheduled
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for park opening, and we had a parent come up
to us and yell at all of us, and it's like,
there's nothing we can do. We're trying to fix the ride,
but they were so mad, so angry. This is the
It's just crazy, how you know, So we're not we're
all people. Our rides are still machines. There's only so
(21:06):
much anybody can do.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, it's like you some someone believes that you're the
one holding the key and you're just refusing to turn
turn the game on.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
We just decided not to open the ride today.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
So let us know the worst thing that happens at
theme parks that you have seen, the rudest behavior when
you are on the app, hit that little microphone, but
little red microphone, sorry red button, white microphone, and then
the message comes in right here. Up next, all of
the fires around Riverside, San Bernardino Counties. Some lessons maybe
(21:37):
we can learn after Leahina burned. There's a way that
they're trying to get people back into their houses there
on Maui and why the whole country in terms of
the housing market, the whole country is starting to look
like California. That's coming up next. You've been listening to
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(22:00):
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This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Welcome to to Monday. It's June thirtieth. Shannon's out today.
She'll be back tomorrow to kick off the entire month
of July. And by the way, we're working on the
fourth of July, so we will be doing the show
on Friday, getting you ready for whatever you have planned
for your Fourth of July Independence Day. A bunch of
fires that are burning out in the lampire that we'll
(00:29):
talk about next hour. But the firefighting job just got
a lot more dangerous. Yesterday in Idaho, a sniper shot
and killed two firefighters and injured a third one in
an ambush attack in Idaho. They were just able to
identify the guy a short time ago, a guy named
excuse me.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Wes Rolly.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
His body was found near his weapon, they said, at
the scene of a fire that he apparently started just yesterday.
And the thinking is that he did it to lure
in firefighters from the Cordelaine Fire Department there on Canfield Mountain.
So the whole start of all of this was what
now we referred to as the Nettleton Gulch fire and
(01:14):
call started coming in at about one fifteen one twenty
yesterday on the outskirts of Cordlaine, Idaho, and about forty
minutes after the firefighters got out there, they said they
were being shot at. This is some of the emergency
calls going out from the unit that was on the scene.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Oh did you want ten?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Pork here shot get out of the way ten or fourteen?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Aw first five? Did you want do not come up here?
On copies remain Staging.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Five is at the upper parking lot, that upper parking
lot on the Derup parking lot. When he law enforcement
up there immediately law enforcem up here, immediately got the
other park lie in any yeahfore we go another another lane.
Firefighters down immediately. We need law enforcement immediately another time,
(02:07):
continuing us.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
You can hear how frenetic that was. Right.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
So as the shooting unfolded, the firefighters are asking for help.
They're telling everybody they're waiting behind one of the rigs,
trying to shield themselves from the gunfire. More than three
hundred law enforcement officers from around the state of Idaho,
from eastern Washington, from Montana all poured into that area,
including the FBI.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
As evening fell.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
They were able to use cell phone data to triangulate
at about three o'clock when the phone turned on. When
a phone turned on up in those hills there, that's
when they found him and his body.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Well, that's when they found his body.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Added that the body had to be moved because the
fire that he set was still spreading pretty rapidly, so
they couldn't just investigate from where he was laying. They
had to take him somewhere else. At this point, it
looks like suicide, but they simply don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
One of the things that you don't often hear is
law enforcement asking for anybody who has a clear shot
to take this guy out. The Kotenye County Sheriff Robert
Norris said as much yesterday in the one of the
early news conferences.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
We are prepared to neutralize this suspect who is currently
actively shooting at public safety personnel. I'm hoping that somebody
has a clear shot and is able to neutralize because
they are not at this point in time showing any
(03:47):
evidence of wanting to surrender.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Again, they did find this guy's body, he's been identified
so far as Wes Rowley.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
By law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Not a whole lot is known about this guy, and
again they don't know if he killed himself, where if
somebody was able to take the shot and get this
guy out of there. The two firefighters have not yet
been identified the two that were killed. A third firefighter
is in the hospital and still fighting for his life.
In all this, this is not it is very rare,
(04:16):
but it is also not unheard of that firefighters can
get are threatened in situations like this. We've seen it
here in LA, We've seen it under the parts of
the country where firefighters rolling into arguably save someone's life
then become the targets in some of these instances.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
So we'll keep an eye on that story.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
The fire itself is still burning, by the way, again
the Nettleton Gulch Fire just outside of Quarterlane, Idaho.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
So we've got our own fire weather to deal with.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Northern California in fact, is going to see some red
flag fire warnings through today. I think they get posted
in a couple of hours and then we'll stay through
today all the way into tomorrow because the high winds
that are up there, and we'll talk about that. Also,
I had an interesting field trip on Saturday. Wife and
I went to Malibu and Pacific Palisades on Saturday. First
(05:09):
time i'd been there probably in a couple of years,
and obviously the first time since the fires that roared
through there in January. Speechless, unbelievable the amount of destruction.
And last week we heard stories about how businesses are
struggling because now that PCH has reopened, very few people
(05:33):
want to go through there. But the place we went
was pretty packed. We'll tell you about that next hour
as well. But we come back. The vote Harama has
begun and there is one specific crack that has shown up.
We know that there are two senators who say they
will vote against President Trump's Big Beautiful bill, and now
there's a possibility of a third. And if that's the case,
(05:55):
that thing is in serious trouble. We'll talk about all
of that when we come back.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Well, you can be very clear that Republicans and Democrats
do not see eye to eye when it comes to
what's going on in the Big Beautiful bill that's making
its way through the Senate. We do expect to see
a vote late today later at least today. This voting
session that's going on on this big, beautiful infrastructure tax bill,
(06:30):
et cetera, is the voting is all about these amendments
that different senators can try to throw in there.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
They call it vote rama. It takes a few minutes
each time.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Some of them are completely not related to what the
bill itself.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Is, even though it's related to a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
The hours long voting session was delayed yesterday because Democrats
forced the Senate clerks to read the entire nine hundred
and forty page bill, which was almost sixteen hours, and
then followed by debate on the bill itself that lasted
well into the night into this morning before they finally
(07:06):
recessed and then come back to whatever's going on today,
this vote rama. So right now, here's a couple of
things that we know. Republicans need to hold fifty of
their fifty three senators to pass the bill, because at
fifty yes, it would be a tie. But we know
the jd Vance as Vice President comes in works as
(07:29):
the president of the Senate, and tile breaks the tie.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
He would vote in favor of this thing.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
We know that Rand Paul, the Senator out of Kentucky,
was a no from the beginning. He has been a
no and will remain a know and then because, among
other things, he said, it adds too much to the
national debt. Senator Tom Tillis, Republican out of North Carolina,
is concerned about Medicaid cuts and what sort of damage
(07:55):
it would do to his state of North Carolina. So
he says, what do I tell six hundred and sixty
three thousand people in two or three years when President
Trump breaks his promise by pushing them off Medicaid. Tom
Tillis has not held back in his criticism of Trump,
and we'll actually talk about it a little bit more
(08:16):
in the next segment because he has now drawn the
ire of President Trump and decided he's getting out of
politics altogether.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
He can't stand this. But here's where it meets the road.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
So that's two defectors from the Republican Party who have
at this point said they're a voting no.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Now there's a.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Couple of centrist Republicans who in many cases have voted
against President Trump, Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski
of Alaska.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Technically they're still a little bit up in the air.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Susan Collins, you can't rely on herd it to vote
fully with the Republican Party, and Lisa Murkowski is very
similar to that. Lisa Rakowski says she's offering an amendment
to the bill that would tie eligibility for wind and
solar tax credit to the start of a project's construction,
which is a change from the way that it's written
(09:12):
in there right now. They updated the text of this
thing late last week that would require solar and wind
generation projects that want to qualify for the investment tax
credit to be started by twenty twenty seven. It's more
restrictive than the other one that they were talking about.
Lisa Murkowski said this move would be disastrous in her
(09:35):
disastrous in her state of Alaska. So she's trying to
get something specific for the state of Alaska. If she doesn't,
is it enough to get her to vote no on
this thing? Possibly even again, even if she votes, know
that still fifty yes votes that would be plenty. They
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don't want to do this, but they would just call
in jd Vance and have him asked the tiebreaker. It's
not a done deal by any means. Over the next
several hours. All of these votes that are going on
with these amendments could give us some amount of insight
into people like Lisa Murkowski or Susan Collins or somebody else,
some other Republican who to this point hasn't come forward
(10:19):
and said they're a no but then eventually casts a
no vote. If you have come out against this thing,
President Trump is going after you. And we'll talk about
at least a couple of guys who have been on
the wrong end of his ire and have said, you
know what, this politics thing sucks that I'm out. Don Bacon,
(10:43):
Tom Tillis. Those are just two of the latest guys.
We'll talk about that when we come back.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I mentioned that the Senate is inching a little bit closer,
it looks like to a final vote on President Trump's
big beautiful bill. Face is really one more obstacle before
lawmakers go on record.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
The vote rama.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
They wrapped up several hours of debate today, and this
vote rama is when lawmakers on either side can come
in and introduce amendments, some of them deal directly with
what's going on in the bill. Others just I mean,
like renaming a space station after Gomer Pile or whatever
(11:29):
they do. Senate Republicans are going to use their time.
They're trying to change this. I mentioned the Lisa Murkowski
amendment that she was talking about changing the way solar
and energy credits are offered. And others will try to
massage this thing to make it more amenable to those
(11:50):
people who may be sort of on the fence on
all of this. Tom Tillis has come out and said
he's a no you got Ran Paul out of Kentucky.
Hates this thing adds too much money to the debt.
And Tom Tillis had come out and said he's concerned
about Medicaid cuts and what that would do to the
people of North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
So President Trump went after Tom Tillis.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Trump said he was a talker and a complainer who
was even worse than Rand Paul. In fact, Trump wrote
on truth Social Saturday night, numerous people have come forward
wanting to run in the primary against Senator Tom Tillis.
I will be meeting with them over the coming weeks,
looking for someone who will properly represent the great people
of North Carolina, and so importantly the people of the
(12:37):
United States. Two very fiery Senate speeches yesterday, Tillis accused
Republicans of rushing to pass this thing because of the
artificial deadline, which was put again. President Trump doesn't have
to have this done by the fourth of July, but
he wants to have it done by the fourth of July,
(13:00):
just so that he can say fourth of July Independence Day,
all that sort of stuff. This is what Tillis said
last night.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
But what we're doing because we've got a view on
an artificial deadline on July fourth that means nothing but
another date in time. We could take the time to
get this right if we lay down the house mark
of the Medicaid bill and fix it.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
So Tom Tillis, savaged by Donald Trump, then comes out
and says he is not going to seek reelection.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
He will not run for a third term.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
This scrambles whatever we knew about the Senate race in
North Carolina and injects a whole lot of uncertainty as
we go through these next few hours, as the Senate
tries to pass this thing. At least Senate Republicans try
to pass this thing. Congressman Don Bacon. Now the House
would get a chance to look at the bill again
after the Senate passes it. Don Bacon, out of Nebraska,
(13:56):
is going to leave Congress after this term. He at
this point has not yet decided whether or not he
is going to vote for this thing when it comes
back into the House. But his announcement that he's not
going to run for reelection comes as we've just got
a couple of days left in this thing. Bacon is
considered one of the pivotal votes in the House. He
says he's waiting to see what passes out of the
(14:18):
Senate before he decides what to do.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
He said, I'm not a yes necessarily.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
The Senate released the revised vision version, I should say,
But he says, it'll come down to the bad outweigh
the good, or the good outweigh the bad by the
time it's done. His concerns, like Tom Tillis, have to
do with the Medicaid provisions and the rollback of some
of those clean energy cuts clean energy tax credits.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I should say, all right.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Theme parks can bring out the best in humans and
the worst in humans. There is a funny article about
how rude people can be at Disneyland. Now, it's not
that it's Disney Disneyland is not what brings it out
in people. It's the idea that humans have forgotten to
act around other humans. I'll tell you this story, but
(15:08):
I'd love to hear your version. The worst behavior that
you've seen in a theme park, especially there you're with
there with your kids, and someone's making an ass of
themselves and you got to explain, well, kids, sometimes other
people are asses.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
We'll talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
What's what's the worst behavior you've seen at a theme park?
When I say theme park, everybody's going to think Disneyland.
And yes, there is a There is a story about
Disneyland that was written by Katie Dowd, a writer for
the San Francisco Chronicles.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
She described actually what is not even close to.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
The worst behavior, but she was apparently in haunted mansion
and you get into the the elevator, you know, the
giant elevator that the room stretches, and you go down
into the doom buggies where the guy says, I am
your host, your ghost host kindly step all the way in,
(16:10):
make room for every there's no turning back now, no
windows and no door.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Now, when you're in there.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And people are word for word saying it at the
same time that Paul Freeze is narrating it, it's annoying.
Nine times out of ten someone is doing the Paul
Freeze voice while Paul Freeze is doing the voice. It's
not new, it's not new, but they said that there's
(16:45):
She writes Katie out again. She writes, no one comes
to Disneyland with a dream of hearing random strangers recite voiceovers.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
And just because you've.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Been on this ride enough times and you could see
the YouTube videos and TikTok, etc. That you can memorize
this thing that doesn't make you cool. And if you're
at Disneyland for the first time, you came from Topeka
and this is your first time at Disneyland, you don't
want to hear other people doing the voice for you.
For example, she describes that she's on Pirates of the
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Caribbean and she said it's been years since she's been
able to just sit on the ride and enjoy that
thing in silence. Because some people find it a nice
fifteen minute break from the heat. So they're chatting away
like this as a park bench somewhere New Orleans Square,
when in fact they're on the ride. And she said
(17:39):
on a recent trip, the group behind her, full grown
adults they'd met up at Disneyland after work, spent the
entire scene arguing about how loud they should scream on
the drop, because again, if you've been there multiple times,
you know what's coming. But if you're from Topeka, you.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Don't know that.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
As soon as that little veil lists and that funny
projected thing on the mist of water, you're going to
go down.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
You don't know that.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
And that's part of the joy of riding that thing
for the first time. She also said on It's a
Small World, a dad started shifting his weight back and
forth to make the boat rock on what is not
an exciting ride, and his kids were laughing, and another
guy and his party laughed along. They decided to ruin
(18:29):
the ride for everybody else. So I want to ask you,
what's the worst thing that's happened to you at a
theme park? I know, Keana, you said that you've had
some bad stories.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
Well, I used to work there.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Oh look at that.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
Yeah, So One of the most memorable things that happened
to me as a cast member with the guest was
they had a hissy fit over a fruit cup. We
ran out of fruit cups and we were prepping more
in the.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Back fruit cups. Yeah, and I I told.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Her, you know, we're prepping some more. Give it like
twenty minutes and we'll have some more ready for you.
And she got so mad and through a temper tantrum
in the middle of the line when there were ten
other people. I was the only cashier, and her husband
was trying so hard to like pull her away from
the line, just please, like it's okay. I gave her
(19:24):
another option. There's another cart over there. You could get
your fruit cup. It's all the same, but here and
our spot we don't have them. Would not take no
for an answer. Finally, her husband like dragged her away.
She was practically kicking and screaming, I kid you, not
over a fruit cup. And I will always take that
(19:44):
away my experience there.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
What I the way it's described a lot is people
forgot the difference between actions in your own home and
actions in public, Like you forget that the things you
do at home.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
For me, walking around in my boxer shorts.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I'm not supposed to do those things in public, and
for a lot of people, it's just outright rude behavior.
You could be a deed to your husband or your
wife or your kids. You shouldn't, but you could. And
then when you do it in public and everybody gets
to see it, it just makes you look awful.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Well and then and then I also worked as a
cast member at Toy Story Midway Mania. I was an
attractions host. Our ride is notorious for breaking down. We've
had adults come and try to fight our leads because
the ride was always down. And one morning we opened
up and our ride wasn't opening on time as scheduled
(20:44):
for park opening, and we had a parent come up
to us and yell at all of us, and it's like,
there's nothing we can do. We're trying to fix the ride,
but they were so mad, so angry. This is the
It's just crazy, how you know, So we're not we're
all people. Our rides are still machines. There's only so
(21:06):
much anybody can do.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, it's like you some someone believes that you're the
one holding the key and you're just refusing to turn
turn the game on.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
We just decided not to open the ride today.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
So let us know the worst thing that happens at
theme parks that you have seen, the rudest behavior when
you are on the app, hit that little microphone, but
little red microphone, sorry red button, white microphone, and then
the message comes in right here. Up next, all of
the fires around Riverside, San Bernardino Counties. Some lessons maybe
(21:37):
we can learn after Leahina burned. There's a way that
they're trying to get people back into their houses there
on Maui and why the whole country in terms of
the housing market, the whole country is starting to look
like California. That's coming up next. You've been listening to
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