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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Our True Crime Tuesday story popped
up and wired three teenagers who almost got away with murder.
Then police found their Google searches. What did those uncover?
It'll make you think twice the next time you Google
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I bit that. In the meantime, what else is going on?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Time four? What's happening?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Wow? A group of hikers in Hollywood Hills have confronted
and detained a man accused of setting fires to trees
and brushes along Runyan Trail. A couple things you don't
mess with in Los Angeles. Runyan Trail is one of them.
People who are downing Lulu Lemon and the latest of
(00:52):
the latest air Jordans will turn into people who have
done hard time inside. If you mess with their run
Canyon Trail, they hold it very dear to their coffee dates,
their life coach meetings. It's very important for people in
LA to have access to the run and trail, so
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I'm not surprised that they would do a citizen's arrest
for somebody trying to ruin that for them. He admitted
he did it. There was no one else coming out
of the trees. Apparently the guy had a blow torch.
According to one of the people that detained this guy,
she took video while her friend Scottie stopped and confronted
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the alleged arsonist. Once I confronted him, Scotty said, he
kind of stopped and paused, like, oh, you got me.
He was talking nonsense, mental illness, they suppose. He apparently said,
I'm a fire marshal and this is a controlled burn,
and Scotty said, show me your badge.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
He didn't have a badge.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Scotty said, he probably doesn't even have a toy badge.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I rest my case.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Detectives investigating the disappearance of a seventy four year old
man from Ranchakukamonga say that it was a possible kidnapping.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Here's what we know.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Family of the missing seventy four year old are desperate
for answers. He mysteriously vanished and now deputies believe he
may have been kidnapped. Family is offering up two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars for his safe return. They think
that this could be tied to his success in the
crypto currency business. He the son when how made a
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fortune in cryptocurrency, donating one point one million to the
usc Kech School of Medicine to research heart disease. He
believes someone stole his father's identity and plundered his bank
accounts for more than a million dollars and that whoever
did it was impersonating his father. In communication with family
members via text message, he said, it's just so crazy
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that somebody may be impersonating my dad. They think it
started earlier this year when dad was remodeling their home
in Rancho Cuca, Manga. They had a big water leak,
but he got bids from multiple contractors. He was living
in an apartment that insurance provided, so he wasn't involved
with the day to day repair all the time. And
then shortly after the repairs were completed, he goes on
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a fishing trip with his son and several other friends.
They had a great time and that was the last
time he saw his dad in person. He says that
he continued to communicate with his father via text message,
but now believes those were all lies. My goodness got
several young grandchildren and everything. That's a bizarre story. All right,
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two people have been killed in flash flooding. A New
Jersey car was swept away yesterday. Victims were killed when
their car swept away into Cedar Brook there in Plainfield.
This is just a couple of days after two others
were killed in severe storms. So when they sell you
to you know, turn around, don't drown, and stay put
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and don't go out, they truly truly mean it. Fire
Festival back in the news. Fire Festival has sold the
rights to the troubled brand, including its IP brand, trademarks
and social media assets. They sold it on eBay for
four cents. No, but they sold it for two hundred
and forty five thousand, three hundred dollars. That seems like
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a king's ransom for what Fire Festival was. I mean
Fire Festival now in all it's branding is basically a joke.
You know, it's like a Halloween store. There was one
hundred and seventy five bids put in by forty two bidders.
They say, it's a small price to pay for the
Fire Festival brand. Of course, this was the one that
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was the luxury glamping music festival. And then all the
rich kids went and posted pictures of their nasty ass
baloney sandwiches and fail budget tense from TIMU and it
was a complete mess.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
And I believe that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
The organizer, Billy McFarlane, pleaded guilty to wire fraud and
other related crimes. He got out early from federal prison
a couple years ago. He said about it about the bid, Damn,
this sucks. It's so low. Of course, being amused by
that Stevie Wonder is addressing rumors that he's not really blind.
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What longtime speculation that he's not actually blind?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Do?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I just have my head in my sand in the
sand and that this has been going. I had never
heard that people thought that Stevie Wonder wasn't really blind.
He said on stage a couple days ago from a concert.
I must say to all of you something that I
was thinking. When did I want to let the world
know this? But I want to say it right now.
You know there have been rumors about me seeing and
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all that, but seriously, you know the truth truth is,
shortly after my birth I became blind, he said. Now,
it was blessing allowed me to see the world in
the vision of truth of sight, see people in the
spirit of them, not how they look, but what.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Color is their spirit? God? I love that he's seventy five.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Now, I didn't know there was a conspiracy theory about
Stevie one or not being blind?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Who does that?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And then super Disney fans, single Disney fans, and probably
super Disney fans are getting their own app to hook up.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
This is a win win.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I think Disney people should find each other for sure.
This is all about Disney fans looking to make love connections.
We have got to we have got to look into this,
you guys. This will be fun times.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
We could take their platform for our own.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I mean I don't want to stuff, Yeah, I just
want to read the bios like, ooh, that'd be super interesting, right,
because you know they get into super particular Disney fandom.
Like it's not just like I love Mini Mouse, She's
so it's like, I like Minnie Mouse's fourth polka dot
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on the left side of her dress.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
It speaks to me. You know, it's going to get
super particular, and they'll probably have cosplay photos of all
the photos.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
That they have. Yes, yes, there will be no photos
if there's no Disney regalia in them.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
How many times have you met Donald right? Right?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
And the Disney Adult Princesses. Oh my gosh, I can't wait.
When does this thing begin? We'll have to get into it.
It's called single writers, is that right?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
M hmm. It's going to be good, good times.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
That is the best way to go to Disneyland, by
the way, by yourself, or just split up and be
a single writer. Let's gep that line, all right? The
Quest for crunch Rap Supremacy. Can you believe it's been
twenty years since the crunch Rep Supreme came out?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Meet me neither.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Well we all know it well, don't we.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
The mix of beef, cheese, lettuce, tomato, sour cream, a
crisp corn toast dot around, all enveloped in that soft
flower tortilla. It's wrapped up like a hexagon, just for
fun and griddled. It is the crunch Wrap Supreme. And
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it has moved beyond those beautiful doors of Taco Bell,
hasn't it. The original crunch Wrap Supreme is twenty years old,
made its debut at Taco Bell in two thousand and five.
Lois Carson is who we salute. Lois is a product
developer for Taco Bell. She had spent more than a
decade trying to invent something that drivers could eat comfortably
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with one hand. She says, in the beginning, there were
people who didn't like the idea, but somewhere in my
mind I knew, And isn't that the way it works
with people create things. Sometimes you just know it's that's right,
even though you get those early eh No, I don't
like it. I don't like it for X, Y and Z.
(09:05):
Now it's not for us. But when you know you've
got something good, you got to stick with it, and
Lois did. During its first six weeks, Taco Bell sold
fifty one million crunch raps. Last year, twenty years later,
the chain sold one hundred million crunch raps. And this
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crunch rap has been the delight of other business owners.
Take Eugene Cleghorn. He is the chef and owner of
Super Burrito, and he opened his mission style burrito chains
first brick and mortar store in twenty twenty. He began
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offering specials to survive winter lulls, and dozens of customers
peppered his Instagram account with request to make a crunch
rap and he said, I didn't really want to do
a taco bell thing.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I'm trying to.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Make food that's precious to me and who I am.
But he's a people pleaser. Aren't chefs such people pleasers?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Some of them?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Well, he is, and he ignored and deleted the pleading messages,
even being the people pleaser he is for eight months
before he finally caved, and he said, in his words,
you know what, f it give the people what they want.
The day super Brito debuted the Dank Wrap love that name,
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the kitchen was slammed. It was the day's best seller
and tickets ran in until closing. He says, we all
had a deer in the headlights look because we were
in this s all day. He said, there is like
a magic quality to this dish that attracts a lot
of eyeballs and garners a ton of excitement. He's not alone,
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as chef Fernando Stromeyer says, like communism, the idea of
a crunch rap is beautiful and wonderful and it all
depends on how you use it. He has a crisp
rap ultimate on his menu at I Like Food. He
says it's a masterpiece. It's perfect. He admits he's never
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eaten the original Taco Bell crunch rap. He said he
watched a handful of YouTube tutorials while stoned on the
couch one evening during lockdown, and made a vegan version
the next day for the staff and they said, immediately,
you need to put this on the menu. He's like, okay,
we'll throw it on there as a goof, and he
says it took off. Ferreda Satigan is a writer and
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recipe developer who made a dy crunch rap for Vice
in the early twenty twenty. He says the most important
note of all is the nostalgia and the comfort, and
you're getting both of those. He says, you know, you
have a wide berth when it comes to ingredients and
what you want to use. Have fun with it, have
fun with the flavors. People have see it on the
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menu and then they're like, wow, this is like so
much better than Taco Bell.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
In that vein.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Anthony Nasif showed off his creativity at his Lebanese restaurant
in the East Village. It's called hen House, and he
said his crunch rap is like Taco Bells filtered through
the fertile crescent and then tripled the size.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Listen to this.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
He starts with the flatbed rap it's called markouk, which
is piled on with smashed garlic, potatoes, tomb sujuke, cheese curds,
peda crisps, and lamb shoulder shwarma plus a zaatar slaw
and a shower of sauces that includes tahini and pomegranate molasses.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
What he says it feeds two to four people. He
says this.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
One guy once eight one at lunchtime and fell asleep
in the restaurant.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Was like getting back to work.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I love that anyway, crunch rap something for everybody, right,
you can make one at home even if you want.
I think that that's a sure winner all the time.
And that's it. It's the nostalgia and it's the comfort
you're not going to miss with those two when you
talk about food.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
All right.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Coming up next True Crime Tuesday, three teenagers almost get
away with murder and it was one of those mistaken
identity murders. There should be no murders, right, but when
there are, the ones of the mistaken identity just hurt
all the more. You're a digit off on the house.
You're a block off on the house. You're filled with
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revenge that is coursing through your entire being, and you're
killing the wrong people. Ugh.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
If you love police work, you will love this edition
of True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
The story is true, sounds true? No, it sounds made up.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I don't know. Parry and Shannon present True Crime.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
We'll start with the crime itself, Arson that led to murder.
It was just after two thirty a m. August fifth,
twenty twenty. People are just coming out of the pandemic
of the lockdowns. Amadal Sao woke to the shrieking sound
that could only be smoke detectors and his home there
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in the suburbs of Denver was on fire.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
He's forty six.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
He rushes to his bedroom door, but a column of
smoke and heat beat him back. He's panic. He runs
to the rear window, breaks the screen with his hand,
and jumps the two story drop, fractured his left foot.
His wife woke their daughter, who shared their room. She
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dragged the ten year old little girls of the window
and pushed her out. Dad tried to catch her, but missed. Miraculously,
she landed on her hands and feet uninjured. Then it
was mom's turn. When she leaped, she fell on her back,
shattered her spine in two places. Dad barely hurt. His
wife's howls of pain. He was thinking about their twenty
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two year old son. He couldn't see any movement in
the son's room. He hurls a rock through the window,
but the glass was steady, it didn't break, and he
just feel filled with despair. I mean, the whole place
is on fire. Then he notices that a son's car
wasn't in the driveway. Thank god, his family is safe,
But what about the other people in the house. At
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that time, nine people called it home. It was at
fifty three to twelve Truckee Street. The dad had bought
the four bedroom property and Green Valley Ranch area in
twenty eighteen. This was a newly built neighborhood, sparsely populated,
kind of cut off from the city, kind of giving
an isolated ghost town feel, and it was a refuge.
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Dad is from Senegal. He's an immigrant work nights at Walmart.
Not long after his family moved in, his old friend
and his family joined them. As well his friend's twenty
nine years old much younger six' eight civil. Engineer first
fire truck arrives about sixteen minutes After.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Dad first woke.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Up by then the fire had, shattered the windows of
smoke was. Filled the entire neighborhood is filled with, smoke
and stench of burning wood fills the. Area and firefighters
get in the front, door and there they find the
small body of a. Child it Was dad's. Friend it
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was his daughter just two years, old barely two years.
Old and there was his. Friend there was his young
wife twenty, three and there was his young wife's. Sister
an entire family wiped. Out, oh by the, way the
sister died with her arms wrapped around her seven month old.
Daughter all five died of smoke. Inhalation at the same
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time firefighters are arriving at the. House Neil, baker a
homicide detective For DENVER, pd is awoken by a call
from his. Sergeant neil is in his. Fifties he's got reading,
glasses thinning, hair rosy, face and he throws on a,
suit tells the Wife sea and jumps in his. Car
he's been a cop for thirty years in The denver.
Area he knows his way around, town but also knows
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That Green Valley ranch is a. Mess it is a
rabbit's warren of identical. Roads so he jumped On google
like we all. Do jumped On google that, night trying
to find the source of the, fire the location of the,
fire not knowing that it would Be google that would
help him solve this.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Case it was three weeks before this that.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
A sixteen year Old kevin went into Central denver to
buy a.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Gun kevin had led a charmed.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Life his family had come there From, vietnam but right
before he was born they were well. Off his dad's
accounting business was. Successful they lived In, lakewood views of the.
Mountains kevin Wore gucci belts And Air. Jordan's he is a.
Psychopath that sounds like a little. PSYCHOPATH i disliked, school
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BUT i was always really good with. It, athletic a
swimmer inside. Linebacker he was close with his older, Sister,
tanya seven years in age, difference And tanya was friends
With kevin's, girlfriend and they were thinking at the time
of getting a dog. Together But kevin And tanya also
liked to a deal in fentanyl and marijuana and they
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would find their customers On, snapchat And kevin planned to start,
karting which is basically stealing people's credit card information on
the dark. Web and he started collecting, weapons as seasoned
drug dealers are won to. Do and the guys A
kevin had arranged to meet in Central denver on that
day In, july promised to sell him a.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Gun, instead they robbed.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Him here's this kid From lakewood showing up in His
gucci belt and His jordan's and, like oh. Place they
rob him of his, cash his, iPhone in his. Shoes,
well this is the, kid know what he's. Doing he was.
Humiliated kevin was. Humiliated he thought he was a big
time drug. Dealer here's this kid from the. Suburbs this
was a time when classes were. Virtual this is during the.
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Pandemic football practice had shut. Down classes are. Virtual he
wasn't doing anything but this whole Drug snapchat.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Operation and he's.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Pissed he's just sitting in his room getting pissed and
being filled with revenge and feeling, stupid and he decides
to get. Even so he pulls up to find my
device on his iPad and watches as it pings his
phone and it lands At Green Valley ranch and a
pin drops at fifty three Twelve Trucky, street where those
two families. Live the next, Afternoon kevin sends a snapchat
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to his Friend, gavin and things got. Rolling his, Friend
gavin is also a troubled teenager plagued by insecurity struggles
with multiple learning, disabilities not great in school as opposed
To kevin's perfect cookie cutter. Life gavin's parents split when
he was, young father not. Absent he also has idle
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hands a lot of, time and they decide to go
after the people at fifty three Twelve Trucky, street the
people they thought Robbed.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Kevin and we'll tell you the rest of the story
when we come.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Back you're listening To gary And shannon on demand FROM
Kfi am six, forty so.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
We're talking true Crime.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Tuesday and this is a story about a man who
awoke and his house was on, fire and unfortunately the
other family that lived there. Paired and this all started
when a teenager who fancied himself a drug dealer and
suburban denver decided to go to the big city and
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buy a, weapon and he was robbed because the people
who he was buying it from knew what they had
on their, hands and it was a kid from the
suburbs who was not a real drug dealer and needed
to be, robbed taken down a. Notch And kevin is his,
name was very. Mad he was, disgraced his self image was.
Suffering his self image is a, winner a, champ top dog.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Shattered so he searched that.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Address remember he used to find my iPhone app and
he found the pin at fifty three to Twelve Trucky,
street the house that would later three weeks later burn
to the. Ground he searched that address thirteen. Times he
searched it on, zillow and he persuaded his, friend who
was kind of a, loner not a, success not a top,
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dog a go along to get along Friend, dylan who
was about sixteen as, well and another, friend a fourteen
year Old, dylan to help him exact. Revenge so they
all three of them had searched the address multiple, times
and they. Decided they later insisted that they just wanted
to vandalize the, place you, know throw rocks at the,
windows egg the. Place but somehow things took a darker
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turn and On august, First kevin Mentioned dylan hashtag possibly
ruin our futures and burn his house. Down three evenings,
later they all go To Party city to buy black theater.
Masks they grab dinner At wendy's On august, fifth about one,
am they pile Into kevin's. Camera they stop at a
gas station fill a red fuel canister to the. Brim
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they set off for that. Home they saw a minivan
parked outside a family. Vehicle they found the house's back door.
Unlocked they doused the gas on the living room walls
and the. Floors they set it on fire and they took.
Off now back To Detective, baker who was, there and
everything's on fire and the air tastes like, ash and
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they tear toll right.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Away there could be five.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
FATALITIES a neighbor actually has some video footage to, share
but it's not.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Great three figures in hoodies and.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Masks but at least it put to bed the idea
that maybe this was falsy.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Wiring it was.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Not but they can't tell who these people. Are the detective, thinking,
oh you're kidding. Me they're five people. Murdered their only
lead is a few seconds of video that reveal nothing
about the criminal's. Identity, well they the. BOYS i call
them boys because they're sixteen and. Fourteen they begin to
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realize that this thing has made the, headlines and the, Leader,
kevin realizes that they targeted the wrong.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
House they killed a.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Family but the cops go.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
On and they do their.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Jobs they go through video, footage they, Clips they piece
together clips from nearby ring. Cameras they see that the
car the suspects were into series of wrong, turns but
the videos weren't enough to make out the make or
model of the. Car they triangulated the cell tower information as.
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Well there were about fifteen hundred devices registered TO tea
mobile within a mile of the house when it, Ignited
so they checked off the bouncing from one cell tower
to the, next and they narrowed the list down to
one hundred devices nearer the house at the time of.
Ignition all of the, things these are things that are.
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Done it's just common protocol now of. Days but nothing
pointed to any obvious. Suspects but they were still convinced
there would be something that would give them the breakthrough they.
Needed but the months went on and the progress on
the case began to. Falter the tips stopped rolling in
the psychics started, calling.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
But they're feeling the. Pressure and then this is in
the midst of.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
The Black Lives matter, protests and the victims in this
case are people of, color and is this the reason
why the investigation is? Dragging so the detectives do what
detectives are not always want to.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Do they ask for fresh. Eyes they plead with colleagues for.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Ideas was there anything we haven't, Tried and another detective,
wonders maybe if the perpetrators had googled the address before heading,
there Perhaps google had a record of that. Search perhaps
you could match up the people that had googled that
exact address with the cell phone records that pinged off
the towers in the area when that house went, up
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and there would be a common name and guess what there,
was and it Was kevin's. Name there was a lot
of high, fiving but they realized it was too soon
to fully, celebrate and in, fact what a legal hurdle
this would turn out to. Be they were able to
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dive into all of the kids' social, media all their
messages back and, forth but kind of looks like they
were going to hit a hurdle with allowing That google
search to be the main pin in the. Case one
of the defendant's lawyers announced that The Colorado Supreme court
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had agreed to address the constitutionality of a keyword. Warrant,
now this verdict would only apply In, colorado but it
would influence law enforcement's behavior in other, states potentially THE
Us department Of justices stance on these warrants as. Well
this is quite the legal, process they heard arguments The
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Supreme court. Did one of the defendant's attorneys argued that
reverse keyword searches were alarmingly similar to geofense, warrants which
they had begun to question in courts across the. Country
the constitutionality of such, warrants and you, know you can't
just ask for whoever searched this and then narrow it.
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Down that's a violation of price casting too large of a.
Net but ultimately the court ruled in their. Favor so
one slid by the, goals slid by the. Net there
there are now police departments from across the country regularly
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calling these detectives asking for a copy of their. Warrant In,
denver they've said that they would only be very careful
about using this. Again but already police departments are, saying,
hey we could really use. That no systemic data is
being collected on how often reverse keywords warrants are being,
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used but it's. Possible there have been hundreds of examples to.
Date by the, way by the summer of last, year
all three teams had accepted plead. Deals the youngest one
got ten years in. Juvie kevin got Sixty dylan got,
forty both in adult. Prison kevin got the harshest sentence
because he masterminded the. Arson oh and he was also
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caught with ninety two pills of. Fentanyl but to the,
victims thene of this is. Enough the husband of the
sister of the other family had never met his young baby.
Man he, says you took away from from, me my,
wife the most beautiful THING i ever. Had you took
away from me my baby THAT i never had a
chance to. Meet it's just. Heartbreaking but stay tuned for
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More google search cases because this is something that is
definitely on the minds of. Investigators All, Right The John
Cobalt show coming up. Next we will see You manyana's
day dry out there and.
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