July 16, 2025 • 26 mins
Trump calls Epstein conspiracy a ‘hoax’ and turns on Maga ‘weaklings. 'The powerful protecting the powerful': Democrats see an opening on Epstein. 'Put a 'W' next to Dino's name.' NL wins All-Star Game swing-off, with help from Dino Ebel.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
All Right, I'm a little frazzled, you guys, because a
couple things just happened. Number One, Bill Handle gave me
a compliment and he said it in a very sincere way,
and I don't know what to do with that.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm flabbergasted. So that happened.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
And then I saw Dave Shatera in the hallway. And
Dave is one of our it geniuses, engineering genius, he'll
fix anything he knows all.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And he has a huge gambling problem.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Like if we get a call from Shittera, like in
the middle of the night and he's, you know, in
a standoff, he's being held at gunpoint by three bookies
and he's in a warehouse, Like, that's not going to
be a shocker to me. I'll send an uber Dave,
like it's cool, I've got you. I'm really not going
to be so if he ruins his entire life because
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of his gambling addiction. But it's fun to watch happen.
It's fun to watch the unraveling. And we just had
a conversation about he had bet on the catcher that
won the home run derby. He had won big on
that because he knew how excited he was to and
his dad was excited to get into the home run derby.
He had a feeling. And he leads the league I think,
at least the al and home runs. So we're talking
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about that, and I said, oh, do you see the
swing off last night? He's like, no, it's too busy
watching WNBA. I'm like, what, Oh my gosh, this gambling's
gotten worse.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
He's like, I only bet the over on the stars.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Like, oh man, oh boy, that call in the middle
of the night may come sooner rather than later. All right,
we have fresh statement from Donald Trump about this Epstein firestorm.
Donald Trump is done and done and ps done. He
is trying to make it crystal clear if you believe
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in some sort of secret Epstein client list. He now
says he doesn't want your support. He seems to be
turning his back on the number of people in the
base that want all the answers on this Epstein files.
All these rich and powerful people that the people who
voted Trump into office want exposed.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Trump is not exposing.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
It was a heated truth social rant this morning when
Trump called Epstein and the Epstein files a hoax cooked
up by the radical left and fake news. He insists
there's no secret list of bombshell names. He's calling out
his own supporters for swallowing what he calls total bs,
hook line, and sinker. He lumped in the rumors about Epstein.
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It's a pretty lengthy truth social post. I won't read
the whole thing, but he basically lumps into Epstein rumors
and the client list rumors with the whole you know
stealed up, which was a bunch of phony documents I
think first printed in Vanity Fair that he liked to
pee on women or some.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
What you know.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
It was all smut and all rumor and no factual
backup for that. So he's saying that this is right
there with it. He says, it's one big smear campaign
designed to take him down. Now, if you are just
catching up, if you're just joining us with this Epstein mess,
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you remember Jeffrey Epstein, the wealthy financier, convicted sex offender.
Jeffrey Epstein had freak offs before did he started talking
about them. Jeffrey Epstein had this super private, weird like
stuff of our novels type mansion in New York and
various messuses. And he had this honey pot girlfriend slash
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manager slash right hand woman in Gallaine Maxwell, who would
lure these women to come work for him and then
they would do whatever they wanted to essentially, And Jeffrey
Epstein was tied financially and socially to a lot of
big names in this country and globally. Frankly, he had
a secret island where he would ferry the rich and
the powerful via his private jet, bring in the young girls,
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have these wild parties, and everyone signed NDAs and nobody
really knows what went on except for the people who do.
And when he died in prison, I'll leave it there.
You decide how he died, if he was killed, or
if he committed suicide, whatever your theory is. It seemed
like this would all die with him. Glayne Maxwell was
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locked up. So what happens to the information. There's a
lot of people that believe that there is information to
be heard about these rich, powerful elites, a lot of
them Democrats, and I think that's where the magabase is looking.
We want to hear about what the high profile democrats.
I believe the Clinton's or a name that repeatedly comes
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up in these circles.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
We want to know what they were up to.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
There's some child sex trafficking allegations that are just talked about.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
We want to know what's in those files.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Well, now it looks like there is a circling of
the wagons at the White House and they are weighing
a wide range of options on how to handle this firestorm.
Trump taking the truth social to say it's all a
hoax is one part of the puzzle.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
But they've got a lot of more pieces to put
in that thing.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Before the base calms down about this, we'll tell you
what about their options, what they're talking about at the
White House when we come back.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
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Speaker 2 (05:44):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
President Trump listens to the show because he just started
talking about this.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
In the Oval office. By the way, there is new
gold what would you call it? Lemonae? Lemonae? What is
that word? I don't know?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
New golden Bossman's all over that place. It's looking very gold.
Everything is very gold in there. But about le may
thank you? Is that the right word to describe what
I'm talking about. Yeah, we yeah, we noticed that too.
On the fireplaces.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It is fresh gold. It's like the Notre Dame locker
room up in there.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
But anyway, he just moments ago during the break, was
addressing this Epstein issue and said that his supporters that
are upset about this are weaklings. And he said, I've
lost a lot of faith in certain people over this.
And I think he's talking about people in a circle
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of trust. And I'll get to the names that I
believe he's referring to in just a minute. As we
continue this talk about the Epstein storm that won't go away.
Who thought this is the fallout over what Trump's base,
especially a lot of the younger people that we heard
from at the Turning Point convention of the weekend.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Call the powerful protecting the powerful.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Don't forget you know, we don't need the Democrats staging
there no kings protests. Don't forget that this is a
country of the people. And yes we will. We will
hold you up. We will elect you, and we will
support you, and we will fly your flags. But you
answer to us in this country. That's how this country is.
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And President Trump's supporters are asking him to answer to
them when it comes to this. They want those names released.
They want all that information out in the public so
that the powerful elite are not protected by the government.
They're tired of that s So, in an effort to
contain the fallout, Trump and White House officials are weighing
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a range of options. Here are the options that they're
talking about. Unsealing new documents, appointing a special prompt secutor,
and drafting executive actions on.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Issues like pedophilia.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
You think that's going to get people to shut up
putting pen to paper and saying pedophilia is bad.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
We have no.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
We have no stomach for that. We're not gonna have
zero tolerance when it comes to pedophilia. That is asked
an answer, does it not? Trump and senior aides have
also reached out to key MAGA aligned influencers, urging them
to dial down their criticism of the administration's handling of
the Epstein investigation to shift focus to broader priorities. Let's
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not worry about this Epstein mess. Let's talk about America first.
Let's talk about the big, beautiful bill. Let's do that.
But this backlash has shown cracks in the Trump inner
circle foundation, and this is nothing new to Trump. He
often exposes tracks in his inner circle. It's part of
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why he is able to drive people to do great.
He uses competition, he uses loyalty to have the cream
rise to the top. It's just what he has done
for years. What he's also done is control the narrative,
and here he hasn't done that yet.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
It's running wild.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Many conservative influencers hard right media figures remain unconvinced by
that Justice Department memo last week that concluded there was
no client list.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
There is no client list, there is no evidence.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
They said that Epstein may have blackmailed prominent people. Oh,
come on, that doesn't pass a smell test. You've got
a guy who's uber rich making these parties with young
girls and secret jet logs and all that, and there's
no blackmailing. The review also confirmed prior findings by the
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FBI that concluded Epstein killed himself. Okay, in terms of
Trump and his personal relationship with Epstein, they knew each
other socially in the nineties and early two thousands, but
that's not saying much because everybody in power knew Jeffrey Epstein,
and that's the point of the whole thing. Now Trump
has defended his attorney general, Pam Bondi, who may just
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be the sacrificial lamb in all of this. I would
not be surprised if Trump gets rid of if she
falls on the sword. Now he's defended her, He's called against,
or he's railed against, calls for her firing by some
MAGA people, some of the personalities. She did not answer
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questions yesterday about Trump's comments on the Epstein files at
a press conference. When asked yesterday if she expected to
keep her job, she said, I'm going to be here
for as long as the president wants me here, and
I believe he's made that crystal clear.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Now he did say yesterday, let me find it. He
did say something.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
To the effect of Pam BONDI should release I can't
find it, but I'll paraphrase something of the effect of
pambody should release all relevant information. And that was my
first idea that maybe she's going to be the one
to fall on the sword here, if they're going to
put it on her. But then if they got rid
of her, then what happens to that information?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
There's still be full privy to it. Laura Lumer.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Laura Lumer is another one of the people that Trump
kind of brought into his inner sanctum.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Got to be careful who you do that with.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
But he's no stranger to cutting off their heads if
they run a foul of him. Right. Laura Lumer, who's
been a staunch ally of the president, said over the
weekend Sunday that there should be a special counsel to
examine the handling of the files. She has gone after
Pambondy hard for her handling of this, and she thinks
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that the special counsel should be appointed so that people
can feel like the issue is being investigated. Perhaps take
it out of her hands, because I don't think she's
been transparent or done a good job in handling this issue.
The other person, the other some people call crazy pants
person is Marjorie Taylor Green. She's also been quite vocal
about this just been a thorn in Trump's side when
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it comes to this. Anyway, we will get into a
little bit more because this thing is moving through Congress.
The Democrats are trying to get in on this, to
which I say, just sit back, like what are you
doing getting involved in this? You know, it's like it's weird.
It's like the Democrats consistently eat each other and here
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you've got the Republicans kind of eating each other.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Just let it lie take a back seat.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
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Speaker 1 (13:02):
We've got an arrest now in the brutal home invasion
shooting murders of an American Idol music executive and her
husband in their home in Encino. Will tell you all
the details of who they've got for this and what
may have been behind it coming up after the news
at ten. Also a great piece of information we're bringing
(13:23):
you in the ten o'clock hour. Trades are making a
comeback in public schools. Thank you Jesus, Mary and Joseph.
Why trades went by the wayside in public schools, I
do not know. We need tradesmen, slash, women, slash whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
We need them.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And a lot of people fit into that mold a
hell of a lot more than the pay out of
your nose for four years college model that some people
thrive in.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
It's not for everybody, so that's great news as well.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Well. We're in the midst of talking about the Epstein
fallout that will not go away unfortunately for President Trump.
And I mentioned Attorney General Pam Bondi, who essentially ran
on this whole bit when she first took office. In February,
she went on Fox News and said she had a
truckload of information about the Epstein case and did nothing
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to quell the conspiracy theories about a supposed non public
list of sexual predators associated with Epstein. So in February,
when Pam Bondi goes on Fox Soon and says, We've
got a bunch of stuff, We've got binders, everyone lost
their minds. What's in that? Is it the Clintons? Is
it the Obamas? What have they done? What has been
covered up? Trump's going to come into office and we're
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going to hear about all of it. We're going to
hear about all the powerful money people and the cover
ups and all of it.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
And then everyone went quiet.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Last week they officially went quiet, with the DOJ and
FBI sharing a memo that the agencies found no client list, uncovered,
no new people whom they could bring charges against. What
the government's gonna hire, gonna hide child rapists, pedophiles? What
that's not? Why we hired Trump for a second term.
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We hired him to explo expose these people. Now, Trump
told reporters, and here's the direct quote about Pam BONDI
she's handled it very well, and it's going to be
up to her. Whatever she thinks is credible, she should release.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
That was yesterday. Today, that rhetoric took a bit of
a turn when he said that anybody who's interested in
this what he calls boring information, that they're bad people.
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He called the people weaklings that won't let this go.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I think holding a hard line to child rape and pedophilia,
if that's what you think is in there, I think
that's a pretty good hill to die on.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Hya is pretty good.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
He went on True Social this morning and said their
new scam the Democrats is what we will ever what
we will forever call the Jeff Epstein hoax, and my
past supporters have bought into this BS hook line and sinker.
This is his angriest comments this morning on Truth Social
than we've had. And then he went just in the
White House that is freshly covered in gold and said,
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I have a lot of people that I've lost faith
in over this. Now about those Democrats. They are trying
to seize on this. Of course, they are internal memos
and polling suggests the issue is breaking.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Through to voters, so they are speaking up.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Senator Ruben Gallego, out of Gayego, excuse me, out of
Arizona Democrat accused Trump of hiding the Epstein list. He
went on X to talk about it. House Minority Leader
Hakim Jeffreys went on press conference and said Americans deserve
to know the truth. The DNC launched an x bot
that posts daily about this. Has Trump released the Epstein files? No.
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The House Majority pack rolled out a simp target list
of complicit GOP members, and then yesterday Democrats attempted to
cast a procedural vote as a referendum to compel the
release of more of the material. Now, let's play conspiracy theorists,
shall We are Democrats who know that maybe their kings
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and queens, the Obamas and the Clintons may be implicated.
Are they trying is this like a princess bride here?
You take this smug no, I want this smug kind
of a switcheroo thing, like, are they trying to say, yes,
release the files knowing that in doing so, now that
the Democrats are asking it will definitely.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Not release those files. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I love to put on my ten four hat. I
find it fits me quite well as I advance in age.
Ted lou Out of California told her reporters yesterday, I
just want to remind the American people that in February
of this year, Pam Bondi acknowledged the existence of the
client list. She said, the client list is sitting on
my desk right now, she did. I mean, remember when
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she came out and held that big precedent with all
the binders. You remember this big white binders, the picture
of Epstein on the front. And why would you do
that if you weren't going to release this information. Why
would you hold a dog and pony show with you
with binders as props if you weren't going to release
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the information unless unless somebody told you not to. Somebody said,
you know what, we can't we've been leveraged. So and
so has something else on us or what have you.
We can't release that because so and so is in
the fire.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
There's a lot of talk about Benjamin not Net and
Yahoo having information about the files. I don't know how
far this thing goes, but nobody does. And that's why
people want answers, because they elected Trump to have some
transparency in government, have some transparency with the political elite.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
What are these people up to?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
That's why we put an insider in the White House,
I mean an outsider inside.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
The White House. So where is it? Where's a transparency?
All right?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Did you hear about the swing off last night? Is
this the first time in history the All Star Game
has ended with a swing off? I think it is
great story about the third base coach involved in the
swing off.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
We'll talk about it.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, I know, right, I have my curiosity, peet, I thought.
So it adds a little something for us when we're
not like, well, you're a baseball girl, am, he's a
baseball girl. I'm not such a baseball girl, but I
do like a feel good story involved in my baseball
and that's what we have.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
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Speaker 1 (20:08):
Great story coming out of the All Star Game. Technically,
there was no winning pitcher last night in the ninety
fifth All Star Game, but emotionally, symbolically, there absolutely was,
and he does not play for the MLB. The American
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League stormed back last night. They were down six to nothing,
and it was weird because there arose chatter and both
dugouts of okay, if this thing is tied up, like
what is.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
That the swing off?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Like?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Is that a thing? What do we do? What are
the rules again?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Three years ago, MLB changed its rules for how to
break ties in the All Star Game, instituting the home
run swing off. This would be conducted at the conclusion
of the ninth inning. Each team would select three players
who got each three swings, and whichever team hit the
most home runs and those nine swings wins the game.
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It's like penalty kicks, but for baseball. A hockey shootout,
but make it baseball. Now here's the fun difference. Baseball's
version requires a coach to take part in this, and
the coach in this situation for the National League was
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veteran Dodgers third bad base coach Dino Abele. I could
be saying his name incorrectly. I apologize. We'll call him Dino.
Dino gets the w That's exactly how Dave Roberts said
it in the papers. Dino should get the W next
to his name. Dino teed up the NL hitters for
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a four to three win in the home run on
swing off and a seven to six win overall in
the All Star Game. He says, it was so awesome
to be a part of that. I just had like
ten rows to get loose, and then it's like, bring
it on. This was the way to end an All
Star Game with all this talk of big stars not
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turning up to play in the home run derby or
what have you. And then you get the first catcher
for switch hitter to win the home run derby, and
now the All Star Game ends in this super exciting
swing off. This is what baseball's all about, right. You
have the excitement. It may not be from the big names, and.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
That's the best part of it. And how much smaller
of the name are you gonna get? Then? Dino able.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Kyle Schwarber, who went three for three in his turn
at the plate to ultimately win for the NL, earned
the All Star Game MVP honors. He says, this was
the baseball version of a shootout or extra time. It
was really fun. I credit the guys on our side.
First time in history we got to do this. Dave
Roberts said he was zero to three as an All
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Star Game manager prior to last night's dramatic conclusion. So
more about Dino. Dino Abel is fifty nine. He's the
third base coach. He was utility and fielder from nineteen
eighty eight to nineteen ninety four in the Dodgers' minor
league system, but never advanced past Triple A. He is
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third made a base coach outfield instructor for the Dodgers,
but he's also something of a batting practice specialist. He's
thrown it on a daily basis to Dodgers' hitters ever
since the team hired him in twenty nineteen. Before that,
he was with the Angels. He's pitched for four different
players in the Home Run Derby, including Albert Pouhols, Vladimir Guerrero,
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te Oscar Hernandez who won last year. Abel and Kyle
Schwerber had previous history of doing batting practice together back
when Abel was a coach on Team Essays Baseball Classic
Squad a couple of years ago, and Schwarber says he's
got great VP.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
A lot of credit.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Goes to him, so anyway, by the time Schwarber comes
up in the second round of the swing off, the
NL was in a dicey position. Brent Rooker of the
A started the event off with two home runs for
the al Kyle Stowers of the Marlins and Mariners player
each traded one, the Ales ahead three to one. Now Schwarber,
one of the league's most feared batters thirty long balls
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this year. He rarely takes batting practice on the field,
though he said he was a little nervous as he
strolled to the plate, and he says, the first swing
I took was kind of a big one. I was
trying to hit a line drive versus trying to hit
a home run, and usually that works out.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Good to know next time you're trying.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
But as he was preparing for his round, he and
Dino able discuss where exactly he wanted the ball throne,
and Schwarber told Dino, I'm going to go left center
to center field to just throw it down the middle.
Three big swings later, he puts the NL in front
with three towering blasts and Dino gets the w This
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week was memorable for Dino. Even before last night's swing off.
On Sunday morning, he flew home early from the Dodgers
road series up in San Francisco to be with his
son Brady for the MLB Draft, and from their living room,
the family celebrated because Brady was selected thirty second overall
by the Brewers. Then he packs up and heads for
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Ontario International Airport, catch a red eye flight Sunday for Atlanta.
He gets in early Monday morning. He starts going NonStop
around all star activities. He's with the fellow Dodgers coaches
for media appearances, throwing batting practice and pre home run
derby workouts, and then as it turned out, doing it
again with last night's game in the balance, it all
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fell on fifty nine year old Dino's shoulders and man died.
He hit it out. He said, it's pretty high adrenaline
going for me right now. I haven't gotten too much sleep,
but I feel right now. I've slept four days. I
am wired up. What a cool story. I will watch
that movie. Michael Monks will join us when we come
back to Gary and Shannon.
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All Right, I'm a little frazzled, you guys, because a
couple things just happened. Number One, Bill Handle gave me
a compliment and he said it in a very sincere way,
and I don't know what to do with that.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm flabbergasted. So that happened.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
And then I saw Dave Shatera in the hallway. And
Dave is one of our it geniuses, engineering genius, he'll
fix anything he knows all.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And he has a huge gambling problem.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Like if we get a call from Shittera, like in
the middle of the night and he's, you know, in
a standoff, he's being held at gunpoint by three bookies
and he's in a warehouse, Like, that's not going to
be a shocker to me. I'll send an uber Dave,
like it's cool, I've got you. I'm really not going
to be so if he ruins his entire life because
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of his gambling addiction. But it's fun to watch happen.
It's fun to watch the unraveling. And we just had
a conversation about he had bet on the catcher that
won the home run derby. He had won big on
that because he knew how excited he was to and
his dad was excited to get into the home run derby.
He had a feeling. And he leads the league I think,
at least the al and home runs. So we're talking
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about that, and I said, oh, do you see the
swing off last night? He's like, no, it's too busy
watching WNBA. I'm like, what, Oh my gosh, this gambling's
gotten worse.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
He's like, I only bet the over on the stars.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Like, oh man, oh boy, that call in the middle
of the night may come sooner rather than later. All right,
we have fresh statement from Donald Trump about this Epstein firestorm.
Donald Trump is done and done and ps done. He
is trying to make it crystal clear if you believe
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in some sort of secret Epstein client list. He now
says he doesn't want your support. He seems to be
turning his back on the number of people in the
base that want all the answers on this Epstein files.
All these rich and powerful people that the people who
voted Trump into office want exposed.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Trump is not exposing.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
It was a heated truth social rant this morning when
Trump called Epstein and the Epstein files a hoax cooked
up by the radical left and fake news. He insists
there's no secret list of bombshell names. He's calling out
his own supporters for swallowing what he calls total bs,
hook line, and sinker. He lumped in the rumors about Epstein.
(02:50):
It's a pretty lengthy truth social post. I won't read
the whole thing, but he basically lumps into Epstein rumors
and the client list rumors with the whole you know
stealed up, which was a bunch of phony documents I
think first printed in Vanity Fair that he liked to
pee on women or some.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
What you know.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
It was all smut and all rumor and no factual
backup for that. So he's saying that this is right
there with it. He says, it's one big smear campaign
designed to take him down. Now, if you are just
catching up, if you're just joining us with this Epstein mess,
(03:29):
you remember Jeffrey Epstein, the wealthy financier, convicted sex offender.
Jeffrey Epstein had freak offs before did he started talking
about them. Jeffrey Epstein had this super private, weird like
stuff of our novels type mansion in New York and
various messuses. And he had this honey pot girlfriend slash
(03:52):
manager slash right hand woman in Gallaine Maxwell, who would
lure these women to come work for him and then
they would do whatever they wanted to essentially, And Jeffrey
Epstein was tied financially and socially to a lot of
big names in this country and globally. Frankly, he had
a secret island where he would ferry the rich and
the powerful via his private jet, bring in the young girls,
(04:16):
have these wild parties, and everyone signed NDAs and nobody
really knows what went on except for the people who do.
And when he died in prison, I'll leave it there.
You decide how he died, if he was killed, or
if he committed suicide, whatever your theory is. It seemed
like this would all die with him. Glayne Maxwell was
(04:38):
locked up. So what happens to the information. There's a
lot of people that believe that there is information to
be heard about these rich, powerful elites, a lot of
them Democrats, and I think that's where the magabase is looking.
We want to hear about what the high profile democrats.
I believe the Clinton's or a name that repeatedly comes
(05:01):
up in these circles.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
We want to know what they were up to.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
There's some child sex trafficking allegations that are just talked about.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
We want to know what's in those files.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Well, now it looks like there is a circling of
the wagons at the White House and they are weighing
a wide range of options on how to handle this firestorm.
Trump taking the truth social to say it's all a
hoax is one part of the puzzle.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
But they've got a lot of more pieces to put
in that thing.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Before the base calms down about this, we'll tell you
what about their options, what they're talking about at the
White House when we come back.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
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Speaker 2 (05:44):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
President Trump listens to the show because he just started
talking about this.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
In the Oval office. By the way, there is new
gold what would you call it? Lemonae? Lemonae? What is
that word? I don't know?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
New golden Bossman's all over that place. It's looking very gold.
Everything is very gold in there. But about le may
thank you? Is that the right word to describe what
I'm talking about. Yeah, we yeah, we noticed that too.
On the fireplaces.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It is fresh gold. It's like the Notre Dame locker
room up in there.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
But anyway, he just moments ago during the break, was
addressing this Epstein issue and said that his supporters that
are upset about this are weaklings. And he said, I've
lost a lot of faith in certain people over this.
And I think he's talking about people in a circle
(06:40):
of trust. And I'll get to the names that I
believe he's referring to in just a minute. As we
continue this talk about the Epstein storm that won't go away.
Who thought this is the fallout over what Trump's base,
especially a lot of the younger people that we heard
from at the Turning Point convention of the weekend.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Call the powerful protecting the powerful.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Don't forget you know, we don't need the Democrats staging
there no kings protests. Don't forget that this is a
country of the people. And yes we will. We will
hold you up. We will elect you, and we will
support you, and we will fly your flags. But you
answer to us in this country. That's how this country is.
(07:26):
And President Trump's supporters are asking him to answer to
them when it comes to this. They want those names released.
They want all that information out in the public so
that the powerful elite are not protected by the government.
They're tired of that s So, in an effort to
contain the fallout, Trump and White House officials are weighing
(07:49):
a range of options. Here are the options that they're
talking about. Unsealing new documents, appointing a special prompt secutor,
and drafting executive actions on.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Issues like pedophilia.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
You think that's going to get people to shut up
putting pen to paper and saying pedophilia is bad.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
We have no.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
We have no stomach for that. We're not gonna have
zero tolerance when it comes to pedophilia. That is asked
an answer, does it not? Trump and senior aides have
also reached out to key MAGA aligned influencers, urging them
to dial down their criticism of the administration's handling of
the Epstein investigation to shift focus to broader priorities. Let's
(08:41):
not worry about this Epstein mess. Let's talk about America first.
Let's talk about the big, beautiful bill. Let's do that.
But this backlash has shown cracks in the Trump inner
circle foundation, and this is nothing new to Trump. He
often exposes tracks in his inner circle. It's part of
(09:02):
why he is able to drive people to do great.
He uses competition, he uses loyalty to have the cream
rise to the top. It's just what he has done
for years. What he's also done is control the narrative,
and here he hasn't done that yet.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
It's running wild.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Many conservative influencers hard right media figures remain unconvinced by
that Justice Department memo last week that concluded there was
no client list.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
There is no client list, there is no evidence.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
They said that Epstein may have blackmailed prominent people. Oh,
come on, that doesn't pass a smell test. You've got
a guy who's uber rich making these parties with young
girls and secret jet logs and all that, and there's
no blackmailing. The review also confirmed prior findings by the
(09:57):
FBI that concluded Epstein killed himself. Okay, in terms of
Trump and his personal relationship with Epstein, they knew each
other socially in the nineties and early two thousands, but
that's not saying much because everybody in power knew Jeffrey Epstein,
and that's the point of the whole thing. Now Trump
has defended his attorney general, Pam Bondi, who may just
(10:20):
be the sacrificial lamb in all of this. I would
not be surprised if Trump gets rid of if she
falls on the sword. Now he's defended her, He's called against,
or he's railed against, calls for her firing by some
MAGA people, some of the personalities. She did not answer
(10:43):
questions yesterday about Trump's comments on the Epstein files at
a press conference. When asked yesterday if she expected to
keep her job, she said, I'm going to be here
for as long as the president wants me here, and
I believe he's made that crystal clear.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Now he did say yesterday, let me find it. He
did say something.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
To the effect of Pam BONDI should release I can't
find it, but I'll paraphrase something of the effect of
pambody should release all relevant information. And that was my
first idea that maybe she's going to be the one
to fall on the sword here, if they're going to
put it on her. But then if they got rid
of her, then what happens to that information?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
There's still be full privy to it. Laura Lumer.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Laura Lumer is another one of the people that Trump
kind of brought into his inner sanctum.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Got to be careful who you do that with.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
But he's no stranger to cutting off their heads if
they run a foul of him. Right. Laura Lumer, who's
been a staunch ally of the president, said over the
weekend Sunday that there should be a special counsel to
examine the handling of the files. She has gone after
Pambondy hard for her handling of this, and she thinks
(12:01):
that the special counsel should be appointed so that people
can feel like the issue is being investigated. Perhaps take
it out of her hands, because I don't think she's
been transparent or done a good job in handling this issue.
The other person, the other some people call crazy pants
person is Marjorie Taylor Green. She's also been quite vocal
about this just been a thorn in Trump's side when
(12:27):
it comes to this. Anyway, we will get into a
little bit more because this thing is moving through Congress.
The Democrats are trying to get in on this, to
which I say, just sit back, like what are you
doing getting involved in this? You know, it's like it's weird.
It's like the Democrats consistently eat each other and here
(12:47):
you've got the Republicans kind of eating each other.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Just let it lie take a back seat.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
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Speaker 1 (13:02):
We've got an arrest now in the brutal home invasion
shooting murders of an American Idol music executive and her
husband in their home in Encino. Will tell you all
the details of who they've got for this and what
may have been behind it coming up after the news
at ten. Also a great piece of information we're bringing
(13:23):
you in the ten o'clock hour. Trades are making a
comeback in public schools. Thank you Jesus, Mary and Joseph.
Why trades went by the wayside in public schools, I
do not know. We need tradesmen, slash, women, slash whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
We need them.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And a lot of people fit into that mold a
hell of a lot more than the pay out of
your nose for four years college model that some people
thrive in.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
It's not for everybody, so that's great news as well.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Well. We're in the midst of talking about the Epstein
fallout that will not go away unfortunately for President Trump.
And I mentioned Attorney General Pam Bondi, who essentially ran
on this whole bit when she first took office. In February,
she went on Fox News and said she had a
truckload of information about the Epstein case and did nothing
(14:22):
to quell the conspiracy theories about a supposed non public
list of sexual predators associated with Epstein. So in February,
when Pam Bondi goes on Fox Soon and says, We've
got a bunch of stuff, We've got binders, everyone lost
their minds. What's in that? Is it the Clintons? Is
it the Obamas? What have they done? What has been
covered up? Trump's going to come into office and we're
(14:43):
going to hear about all of it. We're going to
hear about all the powerful money people and the cover
ups and all of it.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
And then everyone went quiet.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Last week they officially went quiet, with the DOJ and
FBI sharing a memo that the agencies found no client list, uncovered,
no new people whom they could bring charges against. What
the government's gonna hire, gonna hide child rapists, pedophiles? What
that's not? Why we hired Trump for a second term.
(15:14):
We hired him to explo expose these people. Now, Trump
told reporters, and here's the direct quote about Pam BONDI
she's handled it very well, and it's going to be
up to her. Whatever she thinks is credible, she should release.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
That was yesterday. Today, that rhetoric took a bit of
a turn when he said that anybody who's interested in
this what he calls boring information, that they're bad people.
(15:50):
He called the people weaklings that won't let this go.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I think holding a hard line to child rape and pedophilia,
if that's what you think is in there, I think
that's a pretty good hill to die on.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Hya is pretty good.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
He went on True Social this morning and said their
new scam the Democrats is what we will ever what
we will forever call the Jeff Epstein hoax, and my
past supporters have bought into this BS hook line and sinker.
This is his angriest comments this morning on Truth Social
than we've had. And then he went just in the
White House that is freshly covered in gold and said,
(16:28):
I have a lot of people that I've lost faith
in over this. Now about those Democrats. They are trying
to seize on this. Of course, they are internal memos
and polling suggests the issue is breaking.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Through to voters, so they are speaking up.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Senator Ruben Gallego, out of Gayego, excuse me, out of
Arizona Democrat accused Trump of hiding the Epstein list. He
went on X to talk about it. House Minority Leader
Hakim Jeffreys went on press conference and said Americans deserve
to know the truth. The DNC launched an x bot
that posts daily about this. Has Trump released the Epstein files? No.
(17:11):
The House Majority pack rolled out a simp target list
of complicit GOP members, and then yesterday Democrats attempted to
cast a procedural vote as a referendum to compel the
release of more of the material. Now, let's play conspiracy theorists,
shall We are Democrats who know that maybe their kings
(17:33):
and queens, the Obamas and the Clintons may be implicated.
Are they trying is this like a princess bride here?
You take this smug no, I want this smug kind
of a switcheroo thing, like, are they trying to say, yes,
release the files knowing that in doing so, now that
the Democrats are asking it will definitely.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Not release those files. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I love to put on my ten four hat. I
find it fits me quite well as I advance in age.
Ted lou Out of California told her reporters yesterday, I
just want to remind the American people that in February
of this year, Pam Bondi acknowledged the existence of the
client list. She said, the client list is sitting on
my desk right now, she did. I mean, remember when
(18:21):
she came out and held that big precedent with all
the binders. You remember this big white binders, the picture
of Epstein on the front. And why would you do
that if you weren't going to release this information. Why
would you hold a dog and pony show with you
with binders as props if you weren't going to release
(18:43):
the information unless unless somebody told you not to. Somebody said,
you know what, we can't we've been leveraged. So and
so has something else on us or what have you.
We can't release that because so and so is in
the fire.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
There's a lot of talk about Benjamin not Net and
Yahoo having information about the files. I don't know how
far this thing goes, but nobody does. And that's why
people want answers, because they elected Trump to have some
transparency in government, have some transparency with the political elite.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
What are these people up to?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
That's why we put an insider in the White House,
I mean an outsider inside.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
The White House. So where is it? Where's a transparency?
All right?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Did you hear about the swing off last night? Is
this the first time in history the All Star Game
has ended with a swing off? I think it is
great story about the third base coach involved in the
swing off.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
We'll talk about it.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, I know, right, I have my curiosity, peet, I thought.
So it adds a little something for us when we're
not like, well, you're a baseball girl, am, he's a
baseball girl. I'm not such a baseball girl, but I
do like a feel good story involved in my baseball
and that's what we have.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
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Speaker 1 (20:08):
Great story coming out of the All Star Game. Technically,
there was no winning pitcher last night in the ninety
fifth All Star Game, but emotionally, symbolically, there absolutely was,
and he does not play for the MLB. The American
(20:29):
League stormed back last night. They were down six to nothing,
and it was weird because there arose chatter and both
dugouts of okay, if this thing is tied up, like
what is.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
That the swing off?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Like?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Is that a thing? What do we do? What are
the rules again?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Three years ago, MLB changed its rules for how to
break ties in the All Star Game, instituting the home
run swing off. This would be conducted at the conclusion
of the ninth inning. Each team would select three players
who got each three swings, and whichever team hit the
most home runs and those nine swings wins the game.
(21:13):
It's like penalty kicks, but for baseball. A hockey shootout,
but make it baseball. Now here's the fun difference. Baseball's
version requires a coach to take part in this, and
the coach in this situation for the National League was
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veteran Dodgers third bad base coach Dino Abele. I could
be saying his name incorrectly. I apologize. We'll call him Dino.
Dino gets the w That's exactly how Dave Roberts said
it in the papers. Dino should get the W next
to his name. Dino teed up the NL hitters for
(21:57):
a four to three win in the home run on
swing off and a seven to six win overall in
the All Star Game. He says, it was so awesome
to be a part of that. I just had like
ten rows to get loose, and then it's like, bring
it on. This was the way to end an All
Star Game with all this talk of big stars not
(22:17):
turning up to play in the home run derby or
what have you. And then you get the first catcher
for switch hitter to win the home run derby, and
now the All Star Game ends in this super exciting
swing off. This is what baseball's all about, right. You
have the excitement. It may not be from the big names, and.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
That's the best part of it. And how much smaller
of the name are you gonna get? Then? Dino able.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Kyle Schwarber, who went three for three in his turn
at the plate to ultimately win for the NL, earned
the All Star Game MVP honors. He says, this was
the baseball version of a shootout or extra time. It
was really fun. I credit the guys on our side.
First time in history we got to do this. Dave
Roberts said he was zero to three as an All
(23:06):
Star Game manager prior to last night's dramatic conclusion. So
more about Dino. Dino Abel is fifty nine. He's the
third base coach. He was utility and fielder from nineteen
eighty eight to nineteen ninety four in the Dodgers' minor
league system, but never advanced past Triple A. He is
(23:26):
third made a base coach outfield instructor for the Dodgers,
but he's also something of a batting practice specialist. He's
thrown it on a daily basis to Dodgers' hitters ever
since the team hired him in twenty nineteen. Before that,
he was with the Angels. He's pitched for four different
players in the Home Run Derby, including Albert Pouhols, Vladimir Guerrero,
(23:49):
te Oscar Hernandez who won last year. Abel and Kyle
Schwerber had previous history of doing batting practice together back
when Abel was a coach on Team Essays Baseball Classic
Squad a couple of years ago, and Schwarber says he's
got great VP.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
A lot of credit.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Goes to him, so anyway, by the time Schwarber comes
up in the second round of the swing off, the
NL was in a dicey position. Brent Rooker of the
A started the event off with two home runs for
the al Kyle Stowers of the Marlins and Mariners player
each traded one, the Ales ahead three to one. Now Schwarber,
one of the league's most feared batters thirty long balls
(24:26):
this year. He rarely takes batting practice on the field,
though he said he was a little nervous as he
strolled to the plate, and he says, the first swing
I took was kind of a big one. I was
trying to hit a line drive versus trying to hit
a home run, and usually that works out.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Good to know next time you're trying.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
But as he was preparing for his round, he and
Dino able discuss where exactly he wanted the ball throne,
and Schwarber told Dino, I'm going to go left center
to center field to just throw it down the middle.
Three big swings later, he puts the NL in front
with three towering blasts and Dino gets the w This
(25:04):
week was memorable for Dino. Even before last night's swing off.
On Sunday morning, he flew home early from the Dodgers
road series up in San Francisco to be with his
son Brady for the MLB Draft, and from their living room,
the family celebrated because Brady was selected thirty second overall
by the Brewers. Then he packs up and heads for
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Ontario International Airport, catch a red eye flight Sunday for Atlanta.
He gets in early Monday morning. He starts going NonStop
around all star activities. He's with the fellow Dodgers coaches
for media appearances, throwing batting practice and pre home run
derby workouts, and then as it turned out, doing it
again with last night's game in the balance, it all
(25:49):
fell on fifty nine year old Dino's shoulders and man died.
He hit it out. He said, it's pretty high adrenaline
going for me right now. I haven't gotten too much sleep,
but I feel right now. I've slept four days. I
am wired up. What a cool story. I will watch
that movie. Michael Monks will join us when we come
back to Gary and Shannon.
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