August 29, 2025 • 33 mins
The Pickle adventure begins! Gary and Shannon brought a collection of pickles. Cheap Goods Tariffs. Trump revokes Harris’ security protections after Biden-issued extension. Antonio Villaraigosa is running for Governor and joins Gary and Shannon to pitch his race.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty The Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Nineteen seventy five was likely the first year I ever
had a pickle.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
It is pickled all.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I don't know how I can forget that it's pickleday
for even a moment, with the embarrassing amount of pickles
we have brought in. I mean, I thought that I
was clear that I was going to stop and get pickles.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
You said you were going to be here and then
we would go to Whole Foods and get pickles.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
You and I both would go get.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I apologize for the lapse in communication. I thought I
said I would go get pickles in the morning, right,
So I went and got pickles in the morning.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You were at the Whole Foods. At the Whole Foods.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
You know what's really funny. Yeah, I went to the
Whole Foods. Yeah, and I got pickles.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
So now we've got enough pickles to start our own
pickle store.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Also worth the voting that in the first two minutes
of this show, we've said the word pickles more than
in the previous ten years.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
We're going to say pickles a lot, because today is
a Great Pickle Day. Okay, but to be clear, it's
not National Pickle Day. That's November fourteenth. No, no, no,
it was in an article for some reason out of nowhere.
I don't remember if there was a news hook or
what have you. But yesterday Keanna brought us this article
about the Great Pickle Debate, and we said, what's the
debate about pickles? Pickles are great? And she said pickles
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are diabolical.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
She's exact words.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
And at that moment, I thought, tomorrow's pickle Day. Tomorrow,
we're going to debate pickles. Immediately after we mentioned that
today was going to be Pickle Day, we were flooded,
were we not? With already everyone's thoughts on pickles? And
I thought, well, we're going to have to spread out
on this entire Friday and devote it to pickles. Whether
you love them or you hate them. What kind of
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pickles do you prefer? Do you prefer a different kind
of pickle in a different you know, if you're if
you're making a chicken salad, do you put pickles in there?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Do you put relish? And then there's relish versus.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Pickles and then you know what kind of pickle do
you put on your slider? Doesn't matter if it's a
burger slider or a hot chicken slider.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
What else do you pickles on? Do you snack on pickles?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Do you just open the frigerator, look inside and see
a delicious jar of pickles and say that one of
those sounds good right now for a low calorie, crunchy snack.
How do you feel about pickles? Are you willing to
eat pickles out of a foil pouch?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
That's one of those? Is a foil pouch? My wife
did that a couple of months ago. I almost divorced
her on the spot. Why because I thought it was
so foul. We were literally, I mean I had some
We were literally eating gas station pickles and they were great.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
What's wrong with that? Meis?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Honestly I thought about asking Elmer to stop at a
seven to eleven and get one of those like bar
style pickles that they sell at the counter.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I voted against that.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
How long of those things been in That's exactly why
I voted against because I worked in the deli for
about five years and I don't think those pickles ever change.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
They're like the hot dogs that are on the little
roller thing.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Hey, those those A quick turn of her on those things.
Now wait, wait, wait, where were you and your Wow?
Where were you and your wife?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
When you were You were driving up north and we
stopped at Harris Ran and she grabbed some pickles from
the gas station.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I grabbed like a bag of probably something like that.
I don't remember exactly what I grabbed because I was,
I mean, flooded with emotion when she grabbed a bag
of pickles.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, pickles, a delicious low catilery snack which.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I didn't refresh out.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I just thought of I've never seen her grab a
pickle in certain jokes here.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Randomly in public, in public of all places. Usually she's
in private. If she's grabbed a pick it's in private. Yeah,
sometimes in the kitchen, but always in the home.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
She's demure when it comes to pickle grabbing. And when
I saw her do.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
That on the road, the Major.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
In front of the Major, interesting, in front of people,
in front of strangers, really strangers.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
And then we sat outside and I was just and
she just ate. The first couple of.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Minutes, I'm watching the most beautiful woman in the world
eat pickle out of a bag, and you thought, hell yeah, No, no,
not at first, not at first.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Every man, I think, would say, hell yeah, if I
can make my wife happy with gas station pickles, I've
won life.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Well, trust me.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I came around because she offered them to me, and
I all I could think of was.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I've never eaten a pickle in public.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Cindy Crawford in the Pepsi commercial from the late eighties,
and I thought, this is because it was hot outside,
like she was hot, and she she just looked so happy.
She looks so happy.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I was.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Worried that in your thought process you were Cindy Crawford
in this visualization, and that was worrying to me.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Different that I've done that before, but that's a different Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
So anyway, Keana is like, have you ever seen the
Mary Povich episode Bring Out the Olives? This is how
Keana is with with pickles, and we're gonna bring out
the pickles, but you're gonna have to wait for it.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
It's coming up later in the show. She hates pickles.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
We're gonna give her every single pickle that we have
ever found at the market.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
There's at least eight varieties of pickles. Uh, and some
are sweet summer deal, some are spicy.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Ya.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
We're going to instagram live the whole thing. Some of
them are the little corny shown girkin ones. Oh yeah,
I love those. What are the ones that you brought
in the little sauce thing.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Oh, those are just from home. Those are home pickled,
not that I didn't make.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
We don't know the chain of custody on. Those are
from takeout three weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I didn't make them. I just didn't want to bring
the whole jar of pickle. I didn't want to do.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Uh, don't ask questions, Canna, They're safe. Trust me. There's
put the pickles in your mind.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I even took I took pictures of the jars this
morning to prove that I brought them from jars.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
A video of yourself putting the pickle.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
How much time did you spend on this this morning?
I just put them in a little like cut. And
also you going to the market by yourself. That was
never signed.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Off on me. Do not allow me.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I would never sign off on that.
I didn't okay it yesterday, I didn't okay it.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Today. You went on your own without telling anybody.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I would never have let you out in public, in
the wild at a market.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
This, this whole your face specifically probably ruined everyone's day.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I hope so, I hope I made them think twice
about it. Of course you.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Did with the judge, But Judgerson faced awful, all right,
a bad person. Yes, morning, Gary, Shannon, Gary, you smell
like salami?
Speaker 4 (07:06):
What and Shannon? You give me more like.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Ham kind of vibe? Ham.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Have a great day, guys. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
What do you think he smells like old onions? Old onions?
All right? Kamala Harrisonckles.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Oh, by the way, Conway got pissed at us?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
What?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
So yesterday I'm listening to the top of his show
and he came in hot and.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
He was pissed at us. I'll tell you about it
coming up next.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from kf
I am six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Today's Friday, Today's pickle Day Friday.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So all the I got so those other sucker punches
over there, there's two or three different kinds of dill,
A couple of punch.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
We got different ones. I got the three pippers, You
got the bread and utter. Oh you got that one too,
You got the kosher dell. Okay, all right, so we
got three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten eleven.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Okay, we've got one too many extra pickles.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Extra pickles. I don't know anybody thinks to themselves, we've
had too many?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Gary, What are we going to do with all these pickles?
Because Keana is going to have one of each.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
You know what we're gonna do. And then we're gonna
We're going to do what everybody does in this place.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
We're going to take our leftovers and our garbage and
we're going to stick it in the table on the
snack room and it's going to disappear on any is
going to take them and it's going to disappear.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Okay, we're doing that because we're not putting those in
the refrigerator.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
But I will ask my wife if she has a
particular one that she wants me to bring home.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I'm going to guarantee that your wife knows that these
pickles were in a radio station and knows that there
have been fingers in them, and will.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Not want anything.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Point we don't have to least, he doesn't know that
somebody didn't put their fingers in their animals.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Let's before you get to the Conway story. The biggest
headline generator today has been that President Trump canceled former
Vice President Kamala Harris's Secret Service detail. Vice presidents are
not given the same Secret Service protection for the rest
of their lives the way that presidents are. This is
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a little bit strange, however, because there was a protection
that extended for an additional year via a directive that
was signed by President Biden Biden just before he left office.
That is the order that President Trump has canceled. This
letter that was titled Memorandum for the Secretary of Homeland Security,
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which is in control of Secret Service now, was dated
on Thursday yesterday. You are hereby authorized to discontinue any
security related procedures previously authorized by executive memorandum beyond those
required by law for the following individual, Former Vice President
Kamala D. Harris of September First, The timing of this
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is not great from a security stand well, outside of politics,
it's not great for a security standpoint because she's going
on a book tour. She's, you know, passing around one
hundred and seven days thing this new memoir that she
had published or is publishing.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
So there's that, and the idea of.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Protecting a former protectee anywhere near the level of protection
that she received from the Secret Service by a private
company would be millions and millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Right, You could make the argument that this is the
way things happen. Vice presidents, as you mentioned, lose their
security detail after a specified amount of time. You could
also argue that we are living in a different world.
Would it have even have hit a headline in twenty
thirty years ago if a vice president's security detail expired.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
However, we live in an era of vitriol and crazy
ass people out there, And not only is she losing
the agents, she is losing the constant analysis of threat intelligence,
the in person situations, the emails, the text of social media.
They're worried that they will lose the same access to
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threat warnings. According to her own security operations team, that
that was kind of one of the big deals. Also,
her home in the middle of LA will stop being
producted by federal agents. This is one of those things
where Trump could have said, all right, I see that
she's still high profile. I see that she was vice president,
she ran for president she's got this big book tour,
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let's extend her for six.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Months, and was like, no, we're not doing that.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
And listen, she could run for president again and would
almost certainly be given a Secret Service detail, the way
very high profile political candidates are.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Usually it gets to a certain level.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
There are certain criteria to determine when somebody receives Secret
Service protection, but it can come earlier. For Barack Obama,
for example, he received Secret Service protection earlier than other
candidates did because of his high profile.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Well, Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom are going to offer
her security projection.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I think they've.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Already spoken about it last night. Both teams have spoken
about it, and that will happen. So we find it's
more of the symbolic Trump pulling her security protection.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
She'll be okay.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
She should be okay with state and local agencies protecting her.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Not to mention, she can they she and Doug they
can afford private security. I mean, there are there are
things that fill in the gap. I don't know if
it has to be not to the tune of that
she was getting no, not at all. I don't know
how much money they have, but but but I mean
she's she's gonna make millions on her book anyway.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
If they can get Is she going to make millions
on her book?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
How much has she made on that book? I don't
know what.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I don't know what her That's a good question. I
wonder what her upfront was for that A lot here
signing a lot of money, a couple million bucks, probably
just for the just for the speaking.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Of can we just talk about this for a minute.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Jerry Jones thinks that this is his herschel Walker trade.
Jerry Jones thinks that he's gonna get what they got
for herschel Walker and those six draft picks he's going
to he traded away Micah Parsons, the best player by
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far to the Packers, and his riding the Dak Prescott
gave Dak more money than any other player in the
NFL in trades away Micah Parsons, who's like, what six
seven years younger than Dak?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I mean, has he lost his mind?
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Because Jimmy Johnson.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Got all the credit for the idea of the herschel
Walker trade, so they'd be stacked and they'd be able
to address several different position groups with the amount of
picks they got for herschel Walker. Is he pissed off
that Jimmy Johnson got that credit? So he's trying to
do the same thing five hundred years later with Micah Parsons.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Does none of this makes sense? It's like trading. I
don't know. I was going to try. How does this
make sense?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Jimmy? I mean Jerry Jones routinely? Is it just himself
in the foot?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Is it just because Michaeh Parsons was upset with the Cowboys?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I mean that he was unhappy.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I mean that players get unhappy. Pay him what he's worth.
He's the best player, He's the best rusher, pass rusher.
I mean, what are you doing? What are you doing?
He can It's like he can't get out of his
own way. Jerry Jones, time after time after time. He
never learns he's eighty two years old.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
I think he was.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
He was knocking on death's door recently too, he went
through the whole cancer treatment thing.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I mean, what have they done? Can you tell me?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Tell me?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Can you tell me? Speaking of which Conway was, I'm
in my car.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I'm super excited to listen to the Conway Show yesterday
and it was three point fifty two, and I was
still listening to music because I was like, the Conway
Show's not on yet, and I'm driving and I'm driving
and I'm driving, and then that magic time rolls around
where it's four six, and I switched back over to
KFI to hear Conway and he's coming in hot He's like,
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I've got a lot to deal with. I'm going through
a lot. I've got a lot on my plate. And
Sharon's like, what's going on. He's like one being sued
by Pedro some money for Hot Dog Day and then
Gary and Shannon blah blah.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Blah, what did we do.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
He's really upset that we steal bits. He's upset about
the hul Hauser thing. He says that Angel let him
know that we ripped him off yesterday with hul Hauser stuff.
I thought Hulhauser was everybody's I thought hughl Hower was
like Hauser was like Vince Scully, like he's a gift
to all of us. I didn't know Conway cornered the
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market on hul Hauser.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I didn't know the.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Conway Show was the kul Houser Show of record. I
did know that Well had I know that I wouldn't
have touched that guy.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I intentionally avoided. There were people asking me to play, well,
that's avocado eating dog. I did not do that because
that's a Conway show.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Oh see, I didn't even know it was a Conway
thing because usually, you know, for many years, I was
asleep when the Conway Show came on, right, you know,
it was seven o'clock, and now it's on. I am,
I am, and and so I didn't know that that
was his bread and butter pickle.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
And and now I feel back because he was audibly upset.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
And then he said, as.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Long as they're not doing Hulhouser sexual innuendo innuendo bits.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
And then I thought to myself, Conway.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Does huel Houser sex stuff. And then it made me
uncomfortable because I know the Conway Show to be a
family program, and I thought, what's going on on that show?
And then I was upset, you know what I mean?
So does this place come to So here we are
and on Pickle Day, and on Pickle Day of all.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Days, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Well we've talked about the governor's race. It's going to
be here yesterday. It's going to happen so quickly. And
Kamala Harris, we were just talking about her security detail
being revoked by the Trump administration. She has dropped out,
which kind of blew the door open. Now Katie Porter
has gotten the lion's share of the fundraising that would
have gone to Kamala Harris. But as we've mentioned, Katie
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Porter can be hind kind of hard to take, Okay,
I've said that anyway, I can't say that. We said
that we would open the door here on the Gary
and Shannon Show to talk to people that want to
run for governor, no matter what party affiliation. Antonio via Ragosa,
former mayor of Los Angeles. We have interviewed him before.
We talked to him a year ago, like last week,
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right at the convention in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Question mark where we were all right, so we welcome
back Mayor Vira Gosa. How are you doing?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Hi, Shannon Barry, how are you great?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Thanks for taking time for us today. We know you're
busy with you know, getting ready for campaign season. If
there is such a thing. It's like fire.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
As when KFFI calls.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I answer, okay, good, Well, next time we expect you
in the studio.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Oh now that's not gonna happen. But not just kidding
if I can, of course they will.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
All right, let's discuss Shannon mentioned that Katie Porter is
the one at least on the Democrat side who is
getting double digit support from from it's way early, but
these early polls, how do you bridge that gap? How
do you become the leader at least when it comes
to the Democrat side of the race for Gov.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Well, you want to be the leader on election day.
That's number one. Number two. Let's be clear, I've raised
the most money in this race, and I got in late.
She did good and after she's raising money, of course,
and I have a lot of respect for all of
the candidates who are running. I'll just say this. She
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spent thirty million dollars the last election for Senate. And
that's after name I d so, name I D yes.
She's ahead of all of us, and on money, I'm
ahead of everyone. We all got a lot of work
to do. She does I do all the candidates do.
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To convince people it's we need to change. We need
a proven problem solver, someone who's done it before. You know,
I joked about KFI, but you know it's an important
radio station in this town. You guys followed me for
eight years. I tell people, whether you like me or not,
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this is incontrovertible. Crime went down to nineteen fifty levels,
nearly a fifty percent drop in vol in crime. One
out of three schools were failing, the valley was talking
about secession, and by the time I left, we had
a sixty percent increase in the graduation rate. We built
more infrastructure, not just trains, but the airport, the port, schools,
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more infrastructure than virtually any city in the nation, and
finally number one American city and reducing carbon emissions number
five in the world. So I'm running as someone who's
done it before. LA is not just any city. It's
five times bigger than you know, a city up north.
It's a city with big complications, a lot of wealth,
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but a lot of power as well. And I've done it.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Let's talk about a city Sorry to cut you off,
but let's talk about the city up north of seven
square miles of San Francisco. We know you down here,
asked an answered. We did follow you for eight years.
How do you get your name out up there more so?
And how do you woo that small city.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Well, a very important city. It is a lot smaller
than La but it's a very important city in this
town and the city that's coming back, And so they
had a change in leadership in that city. What I've
noticed all across the state is I'm not the only
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one looking for change or a course correction. People want
safer cities, they want cleaner cities, They want government to
focus on the challenges they had. Let me give you
an example. You know, I've said I don't believe in
criminalizing homelessness. I do believe in compassion, but I don't
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believe in chaos. And what we have on the streets
of California's big cities is chaos. When you have you know,
homeless people selling drugs in front of cops, you know,
open in the street, when there's an outhouse you know
twenty feet away, you know, encampments in front of schools
and parks. That just doesn't work, folks, It just doesn't work.
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And when I've said, we spent twenty four billion dollars
from the state, and the first thing I'm going to
do is is audit that and say what did we
spend it on? What worked? Let's double down on that.
What doesn't work, Let's stop doing it. You can't just
throw money at the problem. You have to fix the
problem a little bit at a time. Not you know,
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we're not going to deal with it overnight, but I'll
tell you we got to make more progress, and that
we made and I intend to do that.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Mister via Go, can you hang on for another segment
because I have a couple other questions i'd love to
get to.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
We're talking with. Do you prefer that's speaker, mister mayor?
I mean Antonio? That seems so personal.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, that's uh, we're not ready for that in our
relationship just yet, but maybe we'll get there.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
We're talking with us to be ready.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I'll tell you that former mayor Antonio Viragosa running for governor.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
We'll continue here in just a second.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from kf
I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
We're talking with Antonio Viragosa, and he told us to
call him Antonio, but I will still refer to him
as the forty first mayor.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Your nickname, you know, like Tony or something. Oh, that's
what John, Can you really did they really right? I
don't remember. They don't need to do that. Okay, So
what is wrong with California, what's.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Wrong with you, is that it's unaffordable. People can't afford
to live here anymore. You know, I bought a house
at twenty five years old when I was working in
a nonprofit. I wasn't didn't have a business, I wasn't
making a whole lot of money. You could buy a
home back then. You know, it used to be that
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home ownership was part of the American dream. Now for
our kids, it's a nightmare of three roommates in an apartment,
you know, half hour, forty five minutes away from work.
At the end of the day. You know, we have
the highest gas prices, the second highest utility costs, the
highest home prices. People want some relief. And what I've
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said is we need a governor who's focused on that.
Let me give you an example. We've made it almost
you know, in our drive for climate change, not climate action.
What we've said is, you know, we've made it almost
impossible to have a refinery in this state. So early
in the two thousands we lost two of them, which
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is one of the reasons why we have the has
gas prices. If we lose two more, those gas prices,
which lead the nation, are going to be, according to US,
about eight seventy five a gallon. People can't afford that,
you know, they just can't afford that. You know, utilities
have gone up sixty percent. So what I've said is,
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and I'm on an affordability tour now, I was in
Palm Springs where we talked about tariffs. Tariffs are taxes.
You know, Canadians aren't coming to Palm Springs and the
numbers that they did before, and they spend a lot
of money. They lived there four or five months out
of the year. Those tariffs have also created a situation
(25:48):
where according to the US Chamber of Commerce, we've had
at eight from five percent to an average of an
eighteen percent increasing back to school items. I did a
little video the other day at one of the you know,
I think it was Staples or something. You know, index
cards are seven ninety five, you know, a stack, a
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little tiny stack. People can't afford this. And what I've
said is we've got to take on tariffs. Of course,
because we move fifty percent of the seaborn goods in
California's impacted more than other states. But we also got
to take on the dumb things we've done in this state.
We can't put everything on the guy in the White House.
(26:35):
The fact is we have a lot of what the
cost of living is today has to do with us,
and I'm going to change that.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Speaking of dumb things, what do you do with high
speed rail? Day one? If you're elected governor?
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Okay, day one, I'll do the same thing we did
when the Fed said, and many people said, we couldn't
build a subway in you know, places where there were
methane pockets. I brought in the best and the brightest
from around the world. I got Henry Waxman, the US
Congressman who had made that law going to effect, and
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showed him what. He helped pick some of those experts,
and the experts said we could build it. We need
to look at, you know, the mistakes we've made, what
we need to do better, and how we need to
build this train. Because I'm going to tell you we've
already spent fourteen billion dollars. What are we going to
do just leave it as a relic of the incompetence. No,
(27:39):
I think we need to bring in the best in
the brightest. We have five different major consultants there. I
think we need. Like the rest of the world, it's
done by the private sector, you know, partnering with the
public sector. The public sector is not driving it. It
has to be a joint enterprise, just like the rest
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of the world does.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Is there an appetite for that? I mean, you brought
it up fourteen billion dollars. I mean when do you
get to the point where it's just sunk and costs
like that?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Didn't work out?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
It was it was marred in too much bureaucracy, and
everyone's hand was in the till and it wasn't privatized enough.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
How much more would it need? Is there still an
appetite to spend more money on that thing? Do you think.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
There's an appetite to spend more if we're actually going
to build it, and I intend to build it. Remember
the governor when he made me infrastructures are said the
following he said nobody. The one thing he could never
say in the course of the last campaign was that
he built more infrastructure, drew down more federal money.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I have.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
A record of creative financing, of looking at infrastructure. Remember
when I was mayor, there was cranes all over this town,
not just the rail system, but the airport, the port, schools,
community colleges, and in the middle of a recession, by
the way, So there's no appetite for it if all
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we're going to do is keep on spending money in
a way that doesn't work. There's a big appetite for
it if we're actually going to build it, and I
intend to do that, all.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Right, So go back to what you said about dealing
with the guy in the White House. Right now, the
governor and the state legislature are moving towards taking drawing
congressional districts, taking that power away from an independent commission
and giving it back to lawmakers, despite the fact that
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twice voters wanted to put that power give that power
to an independent commission. Where do you come down on
this redistricting scheme or plan or whatever word you want
to use.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Well, let me be clear. I voted for it. I
supported it. There were a lot of Democrats that were
upset with me when I did. I would as a
speaker that only had forty two votes, I had to
work with the other side. I had a Republican governor
my first year. We got two budgets with a surplus
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in that time when I was Speaker, and so initially,
when the legislature said that they were just going to
you know, vote on it, and they didn't talk about
it being temporary, I said no. But once they said
it's going to be a vote of the people and
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it's only going to be temporary, I support it because
there's no question that the White House and the Congress,
and Texas and other states Ohio, Florida are looking at
it or trying to rig an election by redistricting in
a way that just completely denies whole communities the right
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to representation. I believe that both parties ought to work together.
Some people think that's pine in the sky. Many people
believe that I'm just you know, you know, living in
another era, but I'm not.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I know.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
My job when I was mayor was to represent people
that didn't support me and didn't like me, including my
friends John and Ken. You know, that's your job when
you're when you're when you're mayor. So I do support
it now because it's the people are going to decide,
and it's only going to be temporary. It needs to
go back once we're through with this period. But people
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do have a right to decide why is California being
targeted in this way, targeted with these raids, targeted you know,
with tariffs because you know, Canada, Mexico and China our
biggest trading partners, everybody. You know. Shannon remembers when I'd
be at the port and talk about, you know the
(31:53):
importance of trade and tourism and the like. People aren't
coming to this town and the way that from the Asia,
from China, from Canada, from Mexico, and you know that's
hurting us in the pocketbook. So when they do things
that are hurting us in the pocket book here our residents,
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I'm going to stand up. But mostly what I'm going
to do and challenge it. You know, we'll challenge it
in the courts, but mostly what I'm going to do
is focus on the problems we created, on the problems
that governors get elected to solve.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Antonio Viragosa, former mayor of La running for governor of California.
Thank you for your time, nice to hear from you,
and good luck raising that money.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Shanon Gary, thank you for having me again. Look forward
to coming back and maybe even coming to the studio.
Where is the studio.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
By the way, Burbank.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Oh, okay, it's got to be longer. It's got to
be longer if I'm driving all the way over there
much traffic.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
We'll even give you a cup of coffee.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Antonio twenty twenty six dot com is the website you
can check out more about the former mayor and the
plan plans that he's got for this date.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
All right again, we're gonna open this up. We will
have other people running for governor.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
There's there's a whole group of them out there, and
we'll talk to We'll continue to have these conversations right.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Here on Gary and Shannon. You've been listening to the
Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Nineteen seventy five was likely the first year I ever
had a pickle.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
It is pickled all.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I don't know how I can forget that it's pickleday
for even a moment, with the embarrassing amount of pickles
we have brought in. I mean, I thought that I
was clear that I was going to stop and get pickles.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
You said you were going to be here and then
we would go to Whole Foods and get pickles.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
You and I both would go get.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I apologize for the lapse in communication. I thought I
said I would go get pickles in the morning, right,
So I went and got pickles in the morning.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You were at the Whole Foods. At the Whole Foods.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
You know what's really funny. Yeah, I went to the
Whole Foods. Yeah, and I got pickles.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
So now we've got enough pickles to start our own
pickle store.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Also worth the voting that in the first two minutes
of this show, we've said the word pickles more than
in the previous ten years.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
We're going to say pickles a lot, because today is
a Great Pickle Day. Okay, but to be clear, it's
not National Pickle Day. That's November fourteenth. No, no, no,
it was in an article for some reason out of nowhere.
I don't remember if there was a news hook or
what have you. But yesterday Keanna brought us this article
about the Great Pickle Debate, and we said, what's the
debate about pickles? Pickles are great? And she said pickles
(01:29):
are diabolical.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
She's exact words.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
And at that moment, I thought, tomorrow's pickle Day. Tomorrow,
we're going to debate pickles. Immediately after we mentioned that
today was going to be Pickle Day, we were flooded,
were we not? With already everyone's thoughts on pickles? And
I thought, well, we're going to have to spread out
on this entire Friday and devote it to pickles. Whether
you love them or you hate them. What kind of
(01:54):
pickles do you prefer? Do you prefer a different kind
of pickle in a different you know, if you're if
you're making a chicken salad, do you put pickles in there?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Do you put relish? And then there's relish versus.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Pickles and then you know what kind of pickle do
you put on your slider? Doesn't matter if it's a
burger slider or a hot chicken slider.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
What else do you pickles on? Do you snack on pickles?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Do you just open the frigerator, look inside and see
a delicious jar of pickles and say that one of
those sounds good right now for a low calorie, crunchy snack.
How do you feel about pickles? Are you willing to
eat pickles out of a foil pouch?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
That's one of those? Is a foil pouch? My wife
did that a couple of months ago. I almost divorced
her on the spot. Why because I thought it was
so foul. We were literally, I mean I had some
We were literally eating gas station pickles and they were great.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
What's wrong with that? Meis?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Honestly I thought about asking Elmer to stop at a
seven to eleven and get one of those like bar
style pickles that they sell at the counter.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I voted against that.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
How long of those things been in That's exactly why
I voted against because I worked in the deli for
about five years and I don't think those pickles ever change.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
They're like the hot dogs that are on the little
roller thing.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Hey, those those A quick turn of her on those things.
Now wait, wait, wait, where were you and your Wow?
Where were you and your wife?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
When you were You were driving up north and we
stopped at Harris Ran and she grabbed some pickles from
the gas station.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I grabbed like a bag of probably something like that.
I don't remember exactly what I grabbed because I was,
I mean, flooded with emotion when she grabbed a bag
of pickles.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, pickles, a delicious low catilery snack which.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I didn't refresh out.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I just thought of I've never seen her grab a
pickle in certain jokes here.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Randomly in public, in public of all places. Usually she's
in private. If she's grabbed a pick it's in private. Yeah,
sometimes in the kitchen, but always in the home.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
She's demure when it comes to pickle grabbing. And when
I saw her do.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
That on the road, the Major.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
In front of the Major, interesting, in front of people,
in front of strangers, really strangers.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
And then we sat outside and I was just and
she just ate. The first couple of.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Minutes, I'm watching the most beautiful woman in the world
eat pickle out of a bag, and you thought, hell yeah, No, no,
not at first, not at first.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Every man, I think, would say, hell yeah, if I
can make my wife happy with gas station pickles, I've
won life.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Well, trust me.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I came around because she offered them to me, and
I all I could think of was.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I've never eaten a pickle in public.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Cindy Crawford in the Pepsi commercial from the late eighties,
and I thought, this is because it was hot outside,
like she was hot, and she she just looked so happy.
She looks so happy.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I was.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Worried that in your thought process you were Cindy Crawford
in this visualization, and that was worrying to me.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Different that I've done that before, but that's a different Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
So anyway, Keana is like, have you ever seen the
Mary Povich episode Bring Out the Olives? This is how
Keana is with with pickles, and we're gonna bring out
the pickles, but you're gonna have to wait for it.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
It's coming up later in the show. She hates pickles.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
We're gonna give her every single pickle that we have
ever found at the market.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
There's at least eight varieties of pickles. Uh, and some
are sweet summer deal, some are spicy.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Ya.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
We're going to instagram live the whole thing. Some of
them are the little corny shown girkin ones. Oh yeah,
I love those. What are the ones that you brought
in the little sauce thing.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Oh, those are just from home. Those are home pickled,
not that I didn't make.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
We don't know the chain of custody on. Those are
from takeout three weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I didn't make them. I just didn't want to bring
the whole jar of pickle. I didn't want to do.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Uh, don't ask questions, Canna, They're safe. Trust me. There's
put the pickles in your mind.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I even took I took pictures of the jars this
morning to prove that I brought them from jars.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
A video of yourself putting the pickle.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
How much time did you spend on this this morning?
I just put them in a little like cut. And
also you going to the market by yourself. That was
never signed.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Off on me. Do not allow me.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I would never sign off on that.
I didn't okay it yesterday, I didn't okay it.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Today. You went on your own without telling anybody.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I would never have let you out in public, in
the wild at a market.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
This, this whole your face specifically probably ruined everyone's day.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I hope so, I hope I made them think twice
about it. Of course you.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Did with the judge, But Judgerson faced awful, all right,
a bad person. Yes, morning, Gary, Shannon, Gary, you smell
like salami?
Speaker 4 (07:06):
What and Shannon? You give me more like.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Ham kind of vibe? Ham.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Have a great day, guys. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
What do you think he smells like old onions? Old onions?
All right? Kamala Harrisonckles.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Oh, by the way, Conway got pissed at us?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
What?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
So yesterday I'm listening to the top of his show
and he came in hot and.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
He was pissed at us. I'll tell you about it
coming up next.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from kf
I am six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Today's Friday, Today's pickle Day Friday.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So all the I got so those other sucker punches
over there, there's two or three different kinds of dill,
A couple of punch.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
We got different ones. I got the three pippers, You
got the bread and utter. Oh you got that one too,
You got the kosher dell. Okay, all right, so we
got three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten eleven.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Okay, we've got one too many extra pickles.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Extra pickles. I don't know anybody thinks to themselves, we've
had too many?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Gary, What are we going to do with all these pickles?
Because Keana is going to have one of each.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
You know what we're gonna do. And then we're gonna
We're going to do what everybody does in this place.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
We're going to take our leftovers and our garbage and
we're going to stick it in the table on the
snack room and it's going to disappear on any is
going to take them and it's going to disappear.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Okay, we're doing that because we're not putting those in
the refrigerator.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
But I will ask my wife if she has a
particular one that she wants me to bring home.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I'm going to guarantee that your wife knows that these
pickles were in a radio station and knows that there
have been fingers in them, and will.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Not want anything.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Point we don't have to least, he doesn't know that
somebody didn't put their fingers in their animals.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Let's before you get to the Conway story. The biggest
headline generator today has been that President Trump canceled former
Vice President Kamala Harris's Secret Service detail. Vice presidents are
not given the same Secret Service protection for the rest
of their lives the way that presidents are. This is
(09:21):
a little bit strange, however, because there was a protection
that extended for an additional year via a directive that
was signed by President Biden Biden just before he left office.
That is the order that President Trump has canceled. This
letter that was titled Memorandum for the Secretary of Homeland Security,
(09:42):
which is in control of Secret Service now, was dated
on Thursday yesterday. You are hereby authorized to discontinue any
security related procedures previously authorized by executive memorandum beyond those
required by law for the following individual, Former Vice President
Kamala D. Harris of September First, The timing of this
(10:06):
is not great from a security stand well, outside of politics,
it's not great for a security standpoint because she's going
on a book tour. She's, you know, passing around one
hundred and seven days thing this new memoir that she
had published or is publishing.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
So there's that, and the idea of.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Protecting a former protectee anywhere near the level of protection
that she received from the Secret Service by a private
company would be millions and millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Right, You could make the argument that this is the
way things happen. Vice presidents, as you mentioned, lose their
security detail after a specified amount of time. You could
also argue that we are living in a different world.
Would it have even have hit a headline in twenty
thirty years ago if a vice president's security detail expired.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
However, we live in an era of vitriol and crazy
ass people out there, And not only is she losing
the agents, she is losing the constant analysis of threat intelligence,
the in person situations, the emails, the text of social media.
They're worried that they will lose the same access to
(11:19):
threat warnings. According to her own security operations team, that
that was kind of one of the big deals. Also,
her home in the middle of LA will stop being
producted by federal agents. This is one of those things
where Trump could have said, all right, I see that
she's still high profile. I see that she was vice president,
she ran for president she's got this big book tour,
(11:40):
let's extend her for six.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Months, and was like, no, we're not doing that.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
And listen, she could run for president again and would
almost certainly be given a Secret Service detail, the way
very high profile political candidates are.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Usually it gets to a certain level.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
There are certain criteria to determine when somebody receives Secret
Service protection, but it can come earlier. For Barack Obama,
for example, he received Secret Service protection earlier than other
candidates did because of his high profile.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Well, Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom are going to offer
her security projection.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I think they've.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Already spoken about it last night. Both teams have spoken
about it, and that will happen. So we find it's
more of the symbolic Trump pulling her security protection.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
She'll be okay.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
She should be okay with state and local agencies protecting her.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Not to mention, she can they she and Doug they
can afford private security. I mean, there are there are
things that fill in the gap. I don't know if
it has to be not to the tune of that
she was getting no, not at all. I don't know
how much money they have, but but but I mean
she's she's gonna make millions on her book anyway.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
If they can get Is she going to make millions
on her book?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
How much has she made on that book? I don't
know what.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I don't know what her That's a good question. I
wonder what her upfront was for that A lot here
signing a lot of money, a couple million bucks, probably
just for the just for the speaking.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Of can we just talk about this for a minute.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Jerry Jones thinks that this is his herschel Walker trade.
Jerry Jones thinks that he's gonna get what they got
for herschel Walker and those six draft picks he's going
to he traded away Micah Parsons, the best player by
(13:35):
far to the Packers, and his riding the Dak Prescott
gave Dak more money than any other player in the
NFL in trades away Micah Parsons, who's like, what six
seven years younger than Dak?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I mean, has he lost his mind?
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Because Jimmy Johnson.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Got all the credit for the idea of the herschel
Walker trade, so they'd be stacked and they'd be able
to address several different position groups with the amount of
picks they got for herschel Walker. Is he pissed off
that Jimmy Johnson got that credit? So he's trying to
do the same thing five hundred years later with Micah Parsons.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Does none of this makes sense? It's like trading. I
don't know. I was going to try. How does this
make sense?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Jimmy? I mean Jerry Jones routinely? Is it just himself
in the foot?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Is it just because Michaeh Parsons was upset with the Cowboys?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I mean that he was unhappy.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I mean that players get unhappy. Pay him what he's worth.
He's the best player, He's the best rusher, pass rusher.
I mean, what are you doing? What are you doing?
He can It's like he can't get out of his
own way. Jerry Jones, time after time after time. He
never learns he's eighty two years old.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
I think he was.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
He was knocking on death's door recently too, he went
through the whole cancer treatment thing.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I mean, what have they done? Can you tell me?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Tell me?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Can you tell me? Speaking of which Conway was, I'm
in my car.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I'm super excited to listen to the Conway Show yesterday
and it was three point fifty two, and I was
still listening to music because I was like, the Conway
Show's not on yet, and I'm driving and I'm driving
and I'm driving, and then that magic time rolls around
where it's four six, and I switched back over to
KFI to hear Conway and he's coming in hot He's like,
(15:18):
I've got a lot to deal with. I'm going through
a lot. I've got a lot on my plate. And
Sharon's like, what's going on. He's like one being sued
by Pedro some money for Hot Dog Day and then
Gary and Shannon blah blah.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Blah, what did we do.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
He's really upset that we steal bits. He's upset about
the hul Hauser thing. He says that Angel let him
know that we ripped him off yesterday with hul Hauser stuff.
I thought Hulhauser was everybody's I thought hughl Hower was
like Hauser was like Vince Scully, like he's a gift
to all of us. I didn't know Conway cornered the
(15:54):
market on hul Hauser.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I didn't know the.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Conway Show was the kul Houser Show of record. I
did know that Well had I know that I wouldn't
have touched that guy.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I intentionally avoided. There were people asking me to play, well,
that's avocado eating dog. I did not do that because
that's a Conway show.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Oh see, I didn't even know it was a Conway
thing because usually, you know, for many years, I was
asleep when the Conway Show came on, right, you know,
it was seven o'clock, and now it's on. I am,
I am, and and so I didn't know that that
was his bread and butter pickle.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
And and now I feel back because he was audibly upset.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
And then he said, as.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Long as they're not doing Hulhouser sexual innuendo innuendo bits.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
And then I thought to myself, Conway.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Does huel Houser sex stuff. And then it made me
uncomfortable because I know the Conway Show to be a
family program, and I thought, what's going on on that show?
And then I was upset, you know what I mean?
So does this place come to So here we are
and on Pickle Day, and on Pickle Day of all.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Days, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Well we've talked about the governor's race. It's going to
be here yesterday. It's going to happen so quickly. And
Kamala Harris, we were just talking about her security detail
being revoked by the Trump administration. She has dropped out,
which kind of blew the door open. Now Katie Porter
has gotten the lion's share of the fundraising that would
have gone to Kamala Harris. But as we've mentioned, Katie
(17:44):
Porter can be hind kind of hard to take, Okay,
I've said that anyway, I can't say that. We said
that we would open the door here on the Gary
and Shannon Show to talk to people that want to
run for governor, no matter what party affiliation. Antonio via Ragosa,
former mayor of Los Angeles. We have interviewed him before.
We talked to him a year ago, like last week,
(18:05):
right at the convention in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Question mark where we were all right, so we welcome
back Mayor Vira Gosa. How are you doing?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Hi, Shannon Barry, how are you great?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Thanks for taking time for us today. We know you're
busy with you know, getting ready for campaign season. If
there is such a thing. It's like fire.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
As when KFFI calls.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I answer, okay, good, Well, next time we expect you
in the studio.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Oh now that's not gonna happen. But not just kidding
if I can, of course they will.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
All right, let's discuss Shannon mentioned that Katie Porter is
the one at least on the Democrat side who is
getting double digit support from from it's way early, but
these early polls, how do you bridge that gap? How
do you become the leader at least when it comes
to the Democrat side of the race for Gov.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Well, you want to be the leader on election day.
That's number one. Number two. Let's be clear, I've raised
the most money in this race, and I got in late.
She did good and after she's raising money, of course,
and I have a lot of respect for all of
the candidates who are running. I'll just say this. She
(19:25):
spent thirty million dollars the last election for Senate. And
that's after name I d so, name I D yes.
She's ahead of all of us, and on money, I'm
ahead of everyone. We all got a lot of work
to do. She does I do all the candidates do.
(19:46):
To convince people it's we need to change. We need
a proven problem solver, someone who's done it before. You know,
I joked about KFI, but you know it's an important
radio station in this town. You guys followed me for
eight years. I tell people, whether you like me or not,
(20:09):
this is incontrovertible. Crime went down to nineteen fifty levels,
nearly a fifty percent drop in vol in crime. One
out of three schools were failing, the valley was talking
about secession, and by the time I left, we had
a sixty percent increase in the graduation rate. We built
more infrastructure, not just trains, but the airport, the port, schools,
(20:35):
more infrastructure than virtually any city in the nation, and
finally number one American city and reducing carbon emissions number
five in the world. So I'm running as someone who's
done it before. LA is not just any city. It's
five times bigger than you know, a city up north.
It's a city with big complications, a lot of wealth,
(20:59):
but a lot of power as well. And I've done it.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Let's talk about a city Sorry to cut you off,
but let's talk about the city up north of seven
square miles of San Francisco. We know you down here,
asked an answered. We did follow you for eight years.
How do you get your name out up there more so?
And how do you woo that small city.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Well, a very important city. It is a lot smaller
than La but it's a very important city in this
town and the city that's coming back, And so they
had a change in leadership in that city. What I've
noticed all across the state is I'm not the only
(21:41):
one looking for change or a course correction. People want
safer cities, they want cleaner cities, They want government to
focus on the challenges they had. Let me give you
an example. You know, I've said I don't believe in
criminalizing homelessness. I do believe in compassion, but I don't
(22:02):
believe in chaos. And what we have on the streets
of California's big cities is chaos. When you have you know,
homeless people selling drugs in front of cops, you know,
open in the street, when there's an outhouse you know
twenty feet away, you know, encampments in front of schools
and parks. That just doesn't work, folks, It just doesn't work.
(22:26):
And when I've said, we spent twenty four billion dollars
from the state, and the first thing I'm going to
do is is audit that and say what did we
spend it on? What worked? Let's double down on that.
What doesn't work, Let's stop doing it. You can't just
throw money at the problem. You have to fix the
problem a little bit at a time. Not you know,
(22:49):
we're not going to deal with it overnight, but I'll
tell you we got to make more progress, and that
we made and I intend to do that.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Mister via Go, can you hang on for another segment
because I have a couple other questions i'd love to
get to.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
We're talking with. Do you prefer that's speaker, mister mayor?
I mean Antonio? That seems so personal.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, that's uh, we're not ready for that in our
relationship just yet, but maybe we'll get there.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
We're talking with us to be ready.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I'll tell you that former mayor Antonio Viragosa running for governor.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
We'll continue here in just a second.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from kf
I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
We're talking with Antonio Viragosa, and he told us to
call him Antonio, but I will still refer to him
as the forty first mayor.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Your nickname, you know, like Tony or something. Oh, that's
what John, Can you really did they really right? I
don't remember. They don't need to do that. Okay, So
what is wrong with California, what's.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Wrong with you, is that it's unaffordable. People can't afford
to live here anymore. You know, I bought a house
at twenty five years old when I was working in
a nonprofit. I wasn't didn't have a business, I wasn't
making a whole lot of money. You could buy a
home back then. You know, it used to be that
(24:19):
home ownership was part of the American dream. Now for
our kids, it's a nightmare of three roommates in an apartment,
you know, half hour, forty five minutes away from work.
At the end of the day. You know, we have
the highest gas prices, the second highest utility costs, the
highest home prices. People want some relief. And what I've
(24:41):
said is we need a governor who's focused on that.
Let me give you an example. We've made it almost
you know, in our drive for climate change, not climate action.
What we've said is, you know, we've made it almost
impossible to have a refinery in this state. So early
in the two thousands we lost two of them, which
(25:02):
is one of the reasons why we have the has
gas prices. If we lose two more, those gas prices,
which lead the nation, are going to be, according to US,
about eight seventy five a gallon. People can't afford that,
you know, they just can't afford that. You know, utilities
have gone up sixty percent. So what I've said is,
(25:24):
and I'm on an affordability tour now, I was in
Palm Springs where we talked about tariffs. Tariffs are taxes.
You know, Canadians aren't coming to Palm Springs and the
numbers that they did before, and they spend a lot
of money. They lived there four or five months out
of the year. Those tariffs have also created a situation
(25:48):
where according to the US Chamber of Commerce, we've had
at eight from five percent to an average of an
eighteen percent increasing back to school items. I did a
little video the other day at one of the you know,
I think it was Staples or something. You know, index
cards are seven ninety five, you know, a stack, a
(26:12):
little tiny stack. People can't afford this. And what I've
said is we've got to take on tariffs. Of course,
because we move fifty percent of the seaborn goods in
California's impacted more than other states. But we also got
to take on the dumb things we've done in this state.
We can't put everything on the guy in the White House.
(26:35):
The fact is we have a lot of what the
cost of living is today has to do with us,
and I'm going to change that.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Speaking of dumb things, what do you do with high
speed rail? Day one? If you're elected governor?
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Okay, day one, I'll do the same thing we did
when the Fed said, and many people said, we couldn't
build a subway in you know, places where there were
methane pockets. I brought in the best and the brightest
from around the world. I got Henry Waxman, the US
Congressman who had made that law going to effect, and
(27:16):
showed him what. He helped pick some of those experts,
and the experts said we could build it. We need
to look at, you know, the mistakes we've made, what
we need to do better, and how we need to
build this train. Because I'm going to tell you we've
already spent fourteen billion dollars. What are we going to
do just leave it as a relic of the incompetence. No,
(27:39):
I think we need to bring in the best in
the brightest. We have five different major consultants there. I
think we need. Like the rest of the world, it's
done by the private sector, you know, partnering with the
public sector. The public sector is not driving it. It
has to be a joint enterprise, just like the rest
(27:59):
of the world does.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Is there an appetite for that? I mean, you brought
it up fourteen billion dollars. I mean when do you
get to the point where it's just sunk and costs
like that?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Didn't work out?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
It was it was marred in too much bureaucracy, and
everyone's hand was in the till and it wasn't privatized enough.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
How much more would it need? Is there still an
appetite to spend more money on that thing? Do you think.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
There's an appetite to spend more if we're actually going
to build it, and I intend to build it. Remember
the governor when he made me infrastructures are said the
following he said nobody. The one thing he could never
say in the course of the last campaign was that
he built more infrastructure, drew down more federal money.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I have.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
A record of creative financing, of looking at infrastructure. Remember
when I was mayor, there was cranes all over this town,
not just the rail system, but the airport, the port, schools,
community colleges, and in the middle of a recession, by
the way, So there's no appetite for it if all
(29:10):
we're going to do is keep on spending money in
a way that doesn't work. There's a big appetite for
it if we're actually going to build it, and I
intend to do that, all.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Right, So go back to what you said about dealing
with the guy in the White House. Right now, the
governor and the state legislature are moving towards taking drawing
congressional districts, taking that power away from an independent commission
and giving it back to lawmakers, despite the fact that
(29:39):
twice voters wanted to put that power give that power
to an independent commission. Where do you come down on
this redistricting scheme or plan or whatever word you want
to use.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Well, let me be clear. I voted for it. I
supported it. There were a lot of Democrats that were
upset with me when I did. I would as a
speaker that only had forty two votes, I had to
work with the other side. I had a Republican governor
my first year. We got two budgets with a surplus
(30:11):
in that time when I was Speaker, and so initially,
when the legislature said that they were just going to
you know, vote on it, and they didn't talk about
it being temporary, I said no. But once they said
it's going to be a vote of the people and
(30:33):
it's only going to be temporary, I support it because
there's no question that the White House and the Congress,
and Texas and other states Ohio, Florida are looking at
it or trying to rig an election by redistricting in
a way that just completely denies whole communities the right
(30:53):
to representation. I believe that both parties ought to work together.
Some people think that's pine in the sky. Many people
believe that I'm just you know, you know, living in
another era, but I'm not.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I know.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
My job when I was mayor was to represent people
that didn't support me and didn't like me, including my
friends John and Ken. You know, that's your job when
you're when you're when you're mayor. So I do support
it now because it's the people are going to decide,
and it's only going to be temporary. It needs to
go back once we're through with this period. But people
(31:33):
do have a right to decide why is California being
targeted in this way, targeted with these raids, targeted you know,
with tariffs because you know, Canada, Mexico and China our
biggest trading partners, everybody. You know. Shannon remembers when I'd
be at the port and talk about, you know the
(31:53):
importance of trade and tourism and the like. People aren't
coming to this town and the way that from the Asia,
from China, from Canada, from Mexico, and you know that's
hurting us in the pocketbook. So when they do things
that are hurting us in the pocket book here our residents,
(32:13):
I'm going to stand up. But mostly what I'm going
to do and challenge it. You know, we'll challenge it
in the courts, but mostly what I'm going to do
is focus on the problems we created, on the problems
that governors get elected to solve.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Antonio Viragosa, former mayor of La running for governor of California.
Thank you for your time, nice to hear from you,
and good luck raising that money.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Shanon Gary, thank you for having me again. Look forward
to coming back and maybe even coming to the studio.
Where is the studio.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
By the way, Burbank.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Oh, okay, it's got to be longer. It's got to
be longer if I'm driving all the way over there
much traffic.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
We'll even give you a cup of coffee.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Antonio twenty twenty six dot com is the website you
can check out more about the former mayor and the
plan plans that he's got for this date.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
All right again, we're gonna open this up. We will
have other people running for governor.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
There's there's a whole group of them out there, and
we'll talk to We'll continue to have these conversations right.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Here on Gary and Shannon. You've been listening to the
Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,
and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
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