July 17, 2025 • 28 mins
Trump’s Epstein answers are getting worse. California couple accused of tricking women into carrying babies through surrogacy; 21 children seized.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. We do have a full show
for you this Thursday, July seventeenth, twenty twenty five. My goodness,
this story first came to light. I want to say
on Tuesday, potentially on Monday. This Currica is a surrogacy story.
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Surrogate moms from Texas to Florida thought they were all
carrying a baby for a southern California couple that was
struggling to have a child due to infertility. The women
discovered they were all surrogates for the same couple at
the same time. And now all those babies are in
foster care because this couple was running some sort of
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illegal baby mart. Can you imagine that putting your body
through that, believing that you're helping a couple achieve their
greatest dream and having a child, and now that baby
is in foster care? And how often does this happen?
We'll talk about it coming up. Also, there are some
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(01:10):
what your teenager is texting and all of the you know, no,
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Speaker 2 (01:15):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
This is exactly why we're doing this story. They evolve,
the texting codes evolve, and Parent Magazine came out with
a set of the codes that you should not ignore
to show that your kid is into drugs or sex
or violence. So we'll get into those as well, because
some of them are completely innocuous and some of them
are terrifying. But first we start with the story about
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the heads starting to roll down hill in Washington. And
when you've got a name on your head that the
president doesn't like, your head is first down the hill.
And that's what we're learning with Maureene Comy. Maureene Comy
is a federal prosecutor in Manhattan who worked on the
criminal cases against Jeffrey Epstein and Gallaine Maxwell. She was
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fired forthwith yesterday by the Trump administration. According to six
people with knowledge of the matter, she was actually fired
even the day before.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
But anyway, that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
This Epstein storm is getting worse, and so they're trying
to stop the blood letting with this head rolling down
the hill. We don't know the official reason for her firing,
but obviously it's related to the Epstein storm. She was
involved in Epstein related cases that have caused the White
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House so many problems in recent days. She was informed
of her firing in a letter cited Article two of
the Constitution, which is basically the powers of the president. Hey,
I don't want you here anymore. I don't want you
here anymore. In fact, this was a delight for President
Trump to do, a delightful option on the table of Well,
we could fire some people that are not named Pam BONDI.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
We could fire and Wren Komy.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
She was, Oh, my goodness, that was music to Trump's ears.
He doesn't want somebody with the last name Komy working
for him. In fact, he has said so much to
people in recent days, weeks and months. Wait a minute,
I've got a Komy working for me. We all know
the history he had with James Comy. Her father, a
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spokesman for the Southern District of New York, declined to
comment on the firing. The White House has not talked
about it. The Justice Department is not taking credit for
firing her. She has not been reached for comment. It's
all very hush hush, but we do know this. For
more than a week, Trump and his Attorney General, Pam Bondy,
have been trying to stop the outrage from a lot
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of Trump supporters who feel freaking betrayed over the administration's
reluctance to release files related to jeff Epstein and his
sex trafficking case.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
They feel betrayed because this is.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
What Donald Trump ran on, exposing the political elites. I mean,
he launched himself into the political conversation with Barack Obama
is not suitable to be president. He wasn't born here
the whole bit, remember that. I mean, this is a
man who's made his bread and butter off of these
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conspiracy theories. He's rolled with them. Hell, they're good for ratings.
You can see why he would. He loves ratings, and
it's worked. But now this conspiracy theory that, by the way,
he was all in on on his run up to
the White House and beyond. Pam Bondy as early as February,
as recent as February, said, I've got these files on
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my desk. Let's go, I've got the binders.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
What happened? What changed?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
If these binders, if these files, if all of these
computers that Jeffrey Epstein had to turn in have listed
clients and what they were into.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Why why wouldn't Trump want.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
To be transparent with this? Let's just play Devil's advocate
and assume that there's some Republicans or some people with
power also included in these files. It's not above the
Justice Department to redact some of those names.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
If the Obamas and the Clintons are engaged in some
sort of weird pedophilia ring, why wouldn't that be exposed?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Anyway?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
We will talk about it more coming up, because it's
not just the firing of Maureen Komy. Trump's answers are
getting a little bit more telling when he has questioned
about why wouldn't he expose all of this?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
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Speaker 1 (05:53):
We are talking about the Epstein mess that will not
go away. President Trump said yes to that this is
a scam. He blamed Democrats for what he calls a
scam and a hoax. He says their new scam is
what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein hoax. And
(06:13):
my past supporters have bought into this BS hook line
and singer. He was more aggressive and angrier yesterday with
his language about this than he ever had been. He
has called it boring.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
He has.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Said that, let's see here. I don't understand it why
they are so interested. Trump said he's been dead for
a long time. He was never a big factor in
terms of life.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
But I mean Epstein.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Here's the other thing I wonder about Epstein is if
they want all these the computers that Epstein had to
turn over or were turned over on his behalf to
the Department of Justice, all these files and computers. If
I'm running, I just got to put myself in Jeffrey
Epstein's shoes. And it's disgusting to say that out loud,
But if I'm running some sort of.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Racket where I've got the world.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Not just United States, but the world's elites, you know,
Prince Andrew and the like Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, what
have you? People cross all aisles, all of the big
money guys that are into dirty stuff and they don't
want the public to know about it. And they're into
dirty stuff because they've got the power and the money
and they think they deserve it.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
And I can make.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
All their dreams come true, and in payment, I get
whatever I want, and I keep everybody's secrets secret. Why
the hell would I open up an Excel spreadsheet and
put all that information in there? Why would you ever
put that in writing? Why would the great I shouldn't
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say great. Why would the most successful, richest people in
the globe who were into some dirty stuff with younger girls.
Why would they trust you if you were the kind
of guy that would keep files. Don't you think that
they would know that you weren't that guy, that you
were smart enough to arrange all of this or gleainn
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Maxwell super smart as well without any sort of documentation.
Isn't that the point of playing with Jeffrey Epstein is
there was no record of it. He would make things
go away. Part of me thinks there is nothing there there.
But when you run on that, when you run on
Jeffrey Epstein files, and I'm down for exposing that, and
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there's got to be something in there, and I've got
the files now that I'm president again, and Pam Bondi
sweeps into office and teases all of this.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
As well, they're on my desk right now.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
And you've run on the fact that there are circles
of elite Democrats that have been engaged in child pedophilia
and no one knows about it because they're the power elite,
and then you do nothing. Of course, there's going to
be rage when you look at who the base of
MAGA is.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
How pissed off would they be.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
If they think that they voted for someone that's hiding
child rape.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Pretty pissed off. That kind of anger doesn't go away. Now.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Pam Bondi may be the next head to roll, although
the President has tweeted or gone to truth social in
all caps saying, you know, she's doing.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
A great job. Let her do her job. She's great.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
She has been kind of the target from the MAGA
movement since the government's memos July seven and fourteen detailed
its review of the Epstein files, claiming that no evidence
has been found of an Epstein client list, no more
files from the investigation would be made public. Pam Bondy
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has also played the conspiracy theory game in the past,
like when she was on Fox News in February. Host
John Roberts asked her about the government's plans to release
the clients and she said, like I mentioned, it's sitting
on my desk right now to review.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
She said, that's been a directive by President Trump. I'm
reviewing that now.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
People are watching Fox News and they hear that, They're like,
oh my god, this is our super Bowl. We're about
to be right. We're about to be right about all
of these people that have held the United States hostage
for administration after administration, and they're in this dirty stuff.
And we've all been talking about online and people say
we're crazy, but we are right. And now the government's
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going to come out, the government that's been hiding stuff
from us, our whole lives is going to come out,
release the files, and we can say we were right,
and we were right in hiring the outsider Trump to
come in and do it. How stoked would you be
in February if that is how you felt. Also in February,
she presents these documents titled the Epstein Files, Phase one.
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There were pictures, it was at the White House, there
were big binders. There was a handful of conservative commentators
that went there.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
And they were excited.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
They were excited to bring this information to their listeners
or their viewers, what have you.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
But it had nothing in there. There was no there there.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
At the time, she said she would deliver a truckload
of evidence, thousands of pages about the Epstein case to
the FBI, but did not show any math, did not
provide any details, and we've gotten nothing since. The memo
on July fourteenth was the last straw for Pambondi's critics
in the MAGA movement, when the list she had been
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promising to release four months apparently never existed, or did
it on Tuesdays. She denied that in her February interviews
she had been talking about a client list. She says
that the list she was referring to was the Epstein
case file.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
That's what I meant by that, she said, bowl s.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
The same day, Pambondi also said that the thousands of
videos regarding the Epstein case reviewed by US intelligence could
not be released as they contain child sex abuse images.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Holy hell?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Is that not taking lighter fluid and throwing it on
the massive fire. That is people begging you to release
this information. Now she's saying they contain child sex abuse images?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Holy hell?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
But no, nothing to see here, she said, never going
to be released, never going to see the light of day.
Trush Trump ally Cash Pattel, appointed FBI director during Trump's
second tenure. Former FBI director Dampongino questioned the official suicide ruling,
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but by May this year, both said they accepted the
government's conclusion about Epstein's death.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
If you look at the video of the prison video,
there's a chunk of time I'm missing. Yeah, sure, the
video doesn't show anyone coming in or leaving the cell,
but there's also I think, like a minute and twenty
seconds or two minutes and ten seconds. I forget what
it was of just missing tape. Let's just say long
enough to off somebody. But listen, I don't deal in
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conspiracy theories. They're just so entertaining, though, aren't they all?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
When we come back, this shocking surrogacy case with women
all over the country pregnant, they think with a baby,
that would make this couple in California's dreams come true.
And now all those babies that were supposed to be
dreams come true or in foster care because of some
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sort of weird baby mill operating here in Arcadia.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
We'll talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
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Speaker 1 (13:55):
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Do you know CD nine? CD nine is parents are around? Okay,
so we've got the secret language going on here. We
have the secret language, we have the we have the
secret files. I've got binders full of secret files here
that we will be releasing.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
We'll be releasing these coming up in the next hour.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Some of them are pretty serious, though not just like
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So more if you know than you know for you
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Speaker 2 (14:48):
This is a story that.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Is so heartbreaking and so disgusting, and I don't know
why it's not getting more attention.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
The only reason I hadn't talked about it.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I think we saw it on Tuesday is because every
time I read it, I go, oh.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Makes me sad.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
It makes me sad what all these women and families
went through with the goal of giving a couple what
they've always dreamed of. Twenty One children are in custody
of a welfare agency and I should say babies in
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most cases. While authorities investigate this couple and whether they
misled surrogate mothers around the country. And I gotta tell
you the reason I think this isn't getting more traction
because we're all racist. This is an Asian couple. I
don't know if it involves Asian babies. If this was
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a bunch of white kids, everyone would be talking about it.
It would lead all the news, wouldn't it. Fifteen children
were removed from the couple's home in Arcadia, beautiful home
by the way. There was an abuse allegation that was
filed in May, and so they were finally kind of
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looked at it that time. There were another six children,
soeen fifteen children in one home and it is a
big home, but not that big, and another six children
living elsewhere were located, according to Arcadia Police. Now, these
kids range in age from two months to thirteen years,
most between the ages of one and three. There is
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I believe a mother and a father that have been arrested.
Legal parents. She is thirty eight, Sylvia Jang and Guojuan
one is sixty five. They're believed to be the legal parents.
One or two born biologically, at least to the mother. Now,
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all these children, so twenty one total, You've got these surrogates.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Coming forward and saying I.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Gave my baby to this couple, thinking that I was
the surrogate for them, that they were trying to have
a baby and they couldn't. And that story was told
two officers over and over and over again. Let's go
back to May to that abuse allegation. The two were
arrested then when a hospital reported that their two month
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old infant had a TBI had a traumatic brain or
head injury, I should say, And they said the hospital
had reported that this was the result of a nanny
at the home violently shaking the baby. The child was
not taken to the hospital for another two days. Neglect
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charges were not formally pursued in order for an investigation
to continue. The Arcadia police lieutenant says that the couple
told officers they wanted a large family. Now, Sylvia Jang
produced Mom produced what appeared to be legitimate birth certificates,
including some from outside California that list her as the
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mother of the children. Now, the FBI got called into
this thing, and they're not talking so far to reporters
who are knocking on that door. But the Arcadia police
lieutenant said, I'm not familiar with how surrogacy laws work,
but we need to do a much deeper dive. Yeah,
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there are a number of women who have reached out
to local news organizations to say that they were surrogate
mothers for the couple, but obviously they didn't realize so
many other surrogates were also involved. They individually thought they
were getting pregnant, carrying this baby for nine months to
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make this couple's dream come true. And then they find
out that no, they were one of many to populate
this baby mart inside this Arcadia home.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
And now that.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Child that they sacrifice their bodies and their lives for
for the past nine plus months, that that baby is
in foster care.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Oh my goodness. We'll get into more details when we
come back.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
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Speaker 1 (19:42):
How nice is that? I wouldn't care? I mean, right,
you know, it's like, oh, this is this is my engagement? Right,
Well that's beautiful. Yeah, this was from It's a blood
diamond and a lot of kids were killed to get anyway.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Actually probably more popular to have a lab grown diamond, right, yeah,
no blood.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
On your hands?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yes, oh yes, much cheaper and they're beautiful, and yeah,
you can't tell the difference, just like everything else, you know, knockoffs.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Man, what a world, What a time to be alive.
I was told that, like why natural diamonds are so
like wanted is because there's like natural impurities in them
and that's the only like attraction to laws. Yeah that
people want, right, they want them slightly flawed. If you
are that particular about your diamond, Oh, we got to
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sit you down on the couch.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Right, there's other or you've won life and you've got
nothing to be worried about, and good for you. All right.
We're talking about this crazy story out of Arcadia, this
surrogacy ring, which is the most sanitized way to put it,
it is a baby stealing, trafficking mart black market style situation.
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Here twenty one little kids have been rescued from this
California couple who apparently, if you're reading all the facts
of the case like we have, let's just call it
what it is. They farmed out their fertilized embryos to
multiple women who went and put their body through the
hell of giving birth to these babies and then hoarded
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the children inside a massive mansion in Arcadia where they
suffered repeated abuse. Because yes, that's the other thing we
didn't get to. There is surveillance video from inside this home,
and it's not good. These two sixty five year old
man thirty eight year old woman were found with fifteen
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children in that Arcadia home and then another six kids
had previously been moved out to other homes. But all
of them, twenty one of them have been put now
in state custody and protective care in foster care. Seventeen
of the kids or toddlers or infants. Seventeen of them
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are under three years old. The oldest kid is thirteen.
They have been charged the two with felony, child endangerment
and neglect. We don't know what other charges will be
filed against them for the lies that they told all
of these surrogates, these women around the country they were investigating.
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This discovery was made when police were investigating a complaint
of a two month old who was brought to the
hospital with a traumatic brain injury, and cops believe the
baby was injured by the family's nanny, a fifty six
year old woman accused of committing what they're calling alarming abuse.
The surveillance footage from inside the home the cops there
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in Arcadia were able to get their hands on, and boy,
what a picture did this depict?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Did this show? It shows this fifty six year.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Old nanny shaking and hitting this infant baby, two month old,
a two month old. The video shows other nannies in
this massive home allegedly abusing all of the children, according
to the cops. The Arcadia police lieutenant here saying that
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the discipline, both verbal and physical, was severe to the
point where it supported the beliefs that child abuse was
occurring inside the home. Now, all the officials believe all
of these kids are the biological offspring of these two people,
the mom and the dad, but that they were birthed
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through multiple women hired through their own surrogacy business. And yes,
that's what they told the cops. We wanted a big family.
So they're trying to peddle the story that, yes, we
used all these surrogates because we wanted a big family.
And to the women that served as surrogates, yes, we
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told them that we were struggling with fertility and that
we wanted just one more child. We probably didn't think
it would go over well that we wanted the thirteenth
and the fourteenth or the fifteenth or sixteenth baby. So
we just told them we wanted one more. We had
the one and we wanted one more.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Is that legal? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
The surrogates were hired from around the country, and they
were not aware that there were other surrogate Obviously they
didn't know there were other women carrying this couple's baby
at the same time. One of those surrogate mothers from Pennsylvania,
Kayla Elliott, talked to the press. She said, it's horrific,
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it's disturbing, and it's damaging emotionally. I bet she's fighting
to get the baby girl she carried in a permanent home.
She found out that this baby ended up in foster care,
and I mean, you can imagine, right or you can't imagine.
She said, these agencies were supposed to trust them, follow
their guidance, and come to find out this whole thing
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was a scam and that the parents own the agency.
None of this was disclosed beforehand. Now, two neighbors, Sarah Arcadia,
say that this home, it's a four million, ten thousand
square foot home, had a similar layout to a hotel,
that it's kind of set up like a hotel with
a big giant lobby and all the rooms are like suits.
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So maybe that's how it looks like you walk in.
If this is a baby mart. If this is this
like black market baby mart where people go and they
pick out their babies.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Oh my god, this is such a twilight zone, is
it not?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yes, you know, they walk into this massive mansion and
you know, the foyer is like a lobby, and then
what do they do. They get taken from room to
room to look at the different babies, and then when
they leave, the nannies. The various nannies are abusing these
babies and yelling at them and hitting them.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
What the hell.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Art Romero is a neighbor and he says it's like
around hotel desk that greets you when you walk in,
and that there's a gentleman sitting behind the desk like
a clerk. Now police are still searching for all the
nannies involved with this black market baby business in Arcadia.
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The executive director of the Center of Bioethics and Culture
nonprofit said that having so many kids through a surrogacy
is not illegal, but that to me, the smells of
child trafficking. What are the intentions, she says, of having
that many children at home through these assisted reproductive technologies?
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They again the two arrests. Did mom and dad call
the claims misguided and wrong? Their company, By the way,
the name of it is Mark Surrogacy, and it's no
longer in business. California is one of fifteen states and
allows a woman to be paid for surrogacy without conditions. Louisiana,
if you're wondering, is the only state that completely prohibits
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all paid surrogacy.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Interesting, all right, when.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
We come back the Michael Monks Power Hour. The more
I say that, the more the week goes on, the
more it sounds pretty silly. We've got handwritten notes that
help lead search crews to a mom and son stranded
up in northern California. We'll get into that as well.
Also popular teen texting codes every parent should know. It's
all coming up next on Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
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for you this Thursday, July seventeenth, twenty twenty five. My goodness,
this story first came to light. I want to say
on Tuesday, potentially on Monday. This Currica is a surrogacy story.
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Surrogate moms from Texas to Florida thought they were all
carrying a baby for a southern California couple that was
struggling to have a child due to infertility. The women
discovered they were all surrogates for the same couple at
the same time. And now all those babies are in
foster care because this couple was running some sort of
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illegal baby mart. Can you imagine that putting your body
through that, believing that you're helping a couple achieve their
greatest dream and having a child, and now that baby
is in foster care? And how often does this happen?
We'll talk about it coming up. Also, there are some
popular teen texting codes. Just when you think you know
(01:10):
what your teenager is texting and all of the you know, no,
if you don't here's.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
This is exactly why we're doing this story. They evolve,
the texting codes evolve, and Parent Magazine came out with
a set of the codes that you should not ignore
to show that your kid is into drugs or sex
or violence. So we'll get into those as well, because
some of them are completely innocuous and some of them
are terrifying. But first we start with the story about
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the heads starting to roll down hill in Washington. And
when you've got a name on your head that the
president doesn't like, your head is first down the hill.
And that's what we're learning with Maureene Comy. Maureene Comy
is a federal prosecutor in Manhattan who worked on the
criminal cases against Jeffrey Epstein and Gallaine Maxwell. She was
(02:05):
fired forthwith yesterday by the Trump administration. According to six
people with knowledge of the matter, she was actually fired
even the day before.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
But anyway, that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
This Epstein storm is getting worse, and so they're trying
to stop the blood letting with this head rolling down
the hill. We don't know the official reason for her firing,
but obviously it's related to the Epstein storm. She was
involved in Epstein related cases that have caused the White
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House so many problems in recent days. She was informed
of her firing in a letter cited Article two of
the Constitution, which is basically the powers of the president. Hey,
I don't want you here anymore. I don't want you
here anymore. In fact, this was a delight for President
Trump to do, a delightful option on the table of Well,
we could fire some people that are not named Pam BONDI.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
We could fire and Wren Komy.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
She was, Oh, my goodness, that was music to Trump's ears.
He doesn't want somebody with the last name Komy working
for him. In fact, he has said so much to
people in recent days, weeks and months. Wait a minute,
I've got a Komy working for me. We all know
the history he had with James Comy. Her father, a
(03:24):
spokesman for the Southern District of New York, declined to
comment on the firing. The White House has not talked
about it. The Justice Department is not taking credit for
firing her. She has not been reached for comment. It's
all very hush hush, but we do know this. For
more than a week, Trump and his Attorney General, Pam Bondy,
have been trying to stop the outrage from a lot
(03:47):
of Trump supporters who feel freaking betrayed over the administration's
reluctance to release files related to jeff Epstein and his
sex trafficking case.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
They feel betrayed because this is.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
What Donald Trump ran on, exposing the political elites. I mean,
he launched himself into the political conversation with Barack Obama
is not suitable to be president. He wasn't born here
the whole bit, remember that. I mean, this is a
man who's made his bread and butter off of these
(04:20):
conspiracy theories. He's rolled with them. Hell, they're good for ratings.
You can see why he would. He loves ratings, and
it's worked. But now this conspiracy theory that, by the way,
he was all in on on his run up to
the White House and beyond. Pam Bondy as early as February,
as recent as February, said, I've got these files on
(04:42):
my desk. Let's go, I've got the binders.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
What happened? What changed?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
If these binders, if these files, if all of these
computers that Jeffrey Epstein had to turn in have listed
clients and what they were into.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Why why wouldn't Trump want.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
To be transparent with this? Let's just play Devil's advocate
and assume that there's some Republicans or some people with
power also included in these files. It's not above the
Justice Department to redact some of those names.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
If the Obamas and the Clintons are engaged in some
sort of weird pedophilia ring, why wouldn't that be exposed?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Anyway?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
We will talk about it more coming up, because it's
not just the firing of Maureen Komy. Trump's answers are
getting a little bit more telling when he has questioned
about why wouldn't he expose all of this?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
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Speaker 1 (05:53):
We are talking about the Epstein mess that will not
go away. President Trump said yes to that this is
a scam. He blamed Democrats for what he calls a
scam and a hoax. He says their new scam is
what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein hoax. And
(06:13):
my past supporters have bought into this BS hook line
and singer. He was more aggressive and angrier yesterday with
his language about this than he ever had been. He
has called it boring.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
He has.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Said that, let's see here. I don't understand it why
they are so interested. Trump said he's been dead for
a long time. He was never a big factor in
terms of life.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
But I mean Epstein.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Here's the other thing I wonder about Epstein is if
they want all these the computers that Epstein had to
turn over or were turned over on his behalf to
the Department of Justice, all these files and computers. If
I'm running, I just got to put myself in Jeffrey
Epstein's shoes. And it's disgusting to say that out loud,
But if I'm running some sort of.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Racket where I've got the world.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Not just United States, but the world's elites, you know,
Prince Andrew and the like Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, what
have you? People cross all aisles, all of the big
money guys that are into dirty stuff and they don't
want the public to know about it. And they're into
dirty stuff because they've got the power and the money
and they think they deserve it.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
And I can make.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
All their dreams come true, and in payment, I get
whatever I want, and I keep everybody's secrets secret. Why
the hell would I open up an Excel spreadsheet and
put all that information in there? Why would you ever
put that in writing? Why would the great I shouldn't
(07:56):
say great. Why would the most successful, richest people in
the globe who were into some dirty stuff with younger girls.
Why would they trust you if you were the kind
of guy that would keep files. Don't you think that
they would know that you weren't that guy, that you
were smart enough to arrange all of this or gleainn
(08:17):
Maxwell super smart as well without any sort of documentation.
Isn't that the point of playing with Jeffrey Epstein is
there was no record of it. He would make things
go away. Part of me thinks there is nothing there there.
But when you run on that, when you run on
Jeffrey Epstein files, and I'm down for exposing that, and
(08:40):
there's got to be something in there, and I've got
the files now that I'm president again, and Pam Bondi
sweeps into office and teases all of this.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
As well, they're on my desk right now.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
And you've run on the fact that there are circles
of elite Democrats that have been engaged in child pedophilia
and no one knows about it because they're the power elite,
and then you do nothing. Of course, there's going to
be rage when you look at who the base of
MAGA is.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
How pissed off would they be.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
If they think that they voted for someone that's hiding
child rape.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Pretty pissed off. That kind of anger doesn't go away. Now.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Pam Bondi may be the next head to roll, although
the President has tweeted or gone to truth social in
all caps saying, you know, she's doing.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
A great job. Let her do her job. She's great.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
She has been kind of the target from the MAGA
movement since the government's memos July seven and fourteen detailed
its review of the Epstein files, claiming that no evidence
has been found of an Epstein client list, no more
files from the investigation would be made public. Pam Bondy
(09:56):
has also played the conspiracy theory game in the past,
like when she was on Fox News in February. Host
John Roberts asked her about the government's plans to release
the clients and she said, like I mentioned, it's sitting
on my desk right now to review.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
She said, that's been a directive by President Trump. I'm
reviewing that now.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
People are watching Fox News and they hear that, They're like,
oh my god, this is our super Bowl. We're about
to be right. We're about to be right about all
of these people that have held the United States hostage
for administration after administration, and they're in this dirty stuff.
And we've all been talking about online and people say
we're crazy, but we are right. And now the government's
(10:37):
going to come out, the government that's been hiding stuff
from us, our whole lives is going to come out,
release the files, and we can say we were right,
and we were right in hiring the outsider Trump to
come in and do it. How stoked would you be
in February if that is how you felt. Also in February,
she presents these documents titled the Epstein Files, Phase one.
(10:59):
There were pictures, it was at the White House, there
were big binders. There was a handful of conservative commentators
that went there.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
And they were excited.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
They were excited to bring this information to their listeners
or their viewers, what have you.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
But it had nothing in there. There was no there there.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
At the time, she said she would deliver a truckload
of evidence, thousands of pages about the Epstein case to
the FBI, but did not show any math, did not
provide any details, and we've gotten nothing since. The memo
on July fourteenth was the last straw for Pambondi's critics
in the MAGA movement, when the list she had been
(11:36):
promising to release four months apparently never existed, or did
it on Tuesdays. She denied that in her February interviews
she had been talking about a client list. She says
that the list she was referring to was the Epstein
case file.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
That's what I meant by that, she said, bowl s.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
The same day, Pambondi also said that the thousands of
videos regarding the Epstein case reviewed by US intelligence could
not be released as they contain child sex abuse images.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Holy hell?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Is that not taking lighter fluid and throwing it on
the massive fire. That is people begging you to release
this information. Now she's saying they contain child sex abuse images?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Holy hell?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
But no, nothing to see here, she said, never going
to be released, never going to see the light of day.
Trush Trump ally Cash Pattel, appointed FBI director during Trump's
second tenure. Former FBI director Dampongino questioned the official suicide ruling,
(12:47):
but by May this year, both said they accepted the
government's conclusion about Epstein's death.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
If you look at the video of the prison video,
there's a chunk of time I'm missing. Yeah, sure, the
video doesn't show anyone coming in or leaving the cell,
but there's also I think, like a minute and twenty
seconds or two minutes and ten seconds. I forget what
it was of just missing tape. Let's just say long
enough to off somebody. But listen, I don't deal in
(13:17):
conspiracy theories. They're just so entertaining, though, aren't they all?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
When we come back, this shocking surrogacy case with women
all over the country pregnant, they think with a baby,
that would make this couple in California's dreams come true.
And now all those babies that were supposed to be
dreams come true or in foster care because of some
(13:42):
sort of weird baby mill operating here in Arcadia.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
We'll talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yes, popular teen texting codes will get into.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
It like this, do you know what ASL means?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Do you know CD nine? CD nine is parents are around? Okay,
so we've got the secret language going on here. We
have the secret language, we have the we have the
secret files. I've got binders full of secret files here
that we will be releasing.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
We'll be releasing these coming up in the next hour.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Some of them are pretty serious, though not just like
parents are around because maybe they want to talk about boys.
There are some some texting codes here that are very troubling.
So more if you know than you know for you
coming up next, well, in the next hour.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
This is a story that.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Is so heartbreaking and so disgusting, and I don't know
why it's not getting more attention.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
The only reason I hadn't talked about it.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I think we saw it on Tuesday is because every
time I read it, I go, oh.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Makes me sad.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
It makes me sad what all these women and families
went through with the goal of giving a couple what
they've always dreamed of. Twenty One children are in custody
of a welfare agency and I should say babies in
(15:30):
most cases. While authorities investigate this couple and whether they
misled surrogate mothers around the country. And I gotta tell
you the reason I think this isn't getting more traction
because we're all racist. This is an Asian couple. I
don't know if it involves Asian babies. If this was
(15:52):
a bunch of white kids, everyone would be talking about it.
It would lead all the news, wouldn't it. Fifteen children
were removed from the couple's home in Arcadia, beautiful home
by the way. There was an abuse allegation that was
filed in May, and so they were finally kind of
(16:15):
looked at it that time. There were another six children,
soeen fifteen children in one home and it is a
big home, but not that big, and another six children
living elsewhere were located, according to Arcadia Police. Now, these
kids range in age from two months to thirteen years,
most between the ages of one and three. There is
(16:39):
I believe a mother and a father that have been arrested.
Legal parents. She is thirty eight, Sylvia Jang and Guojuan
one is sixty five. They're believed to be the legal parents.
One or two born biologically, at least to the mother. Now,
(17:02):
all these children, so twenty one total, You've got these surrogates.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Coming forward and saying I.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Gave my baby to this couple, thinking that I was
the surrogate for them, that they were trying to have
a baby and they couldn't. And that story was told
two officers over and over and over again. Let's go
back to May to that abuse allegation. The two were
arrested then when a hospital reported that their two month
(17:35):
old infant had a TBI had a traumatic brain or
head injury, I should say, And they said the hospital
had reported that this was the result of a nanny
at the home violently shaking the baby. The child was
not taken to the hospital for another two days. Neglect
(17:56):
charges were not formally pursued in order for an investigation
to continue. The Arcadia police lieutenant says that the couple
told officers they wanted a large family. Now, Sylvia Jang
produced Mom produced what appeared to be legitimate birth certificates,
including some from outside California that list her as the
(18:20):
mother of the children. Now, the FBI got called into
this thing, and they're not talking so far to reporters
who are knocking on that door. But the Arcadia police
lieutenant said, I'm not familiar with how surrogacy laws work,
but we need to do a much deeper dive. Yeah,
(18:43):
there are a number of women who have reached out
to local news organizations to say that they were surrogate
mothers for the couple, but obviously they didn't realize so
many other surrogates were also involved. They individually thought they
were getting pregnant, carrying this baby for nine months to
(19:06):
make this couple's dream come true. And then they find
out that no, they were one of many to populate
this baby mart inside this Arcadia home.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
And now that.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Child that they sacrifice their bodies and their lives for
for the past nine plus months, that that baby is
in foster care.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Oh my goodness. We'll get into more details when we
come back.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
How nice is that? I wouldn't care? I mean, right,
you know, it's like, oh, this is this is my engagement? Right,
Well that's beautiful. Yeah, this was from It's a blood
diamond and a lot of kids were killed to get anyway.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Actually probably more popular to have a lab grown diamond, right, yeah,
no blood.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
On your hands?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yes, oh yes, much cheaper and they're beautiful, and yeah,
you can't tell the difference, just like everything else, you know, knockoffs.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Man, what a world, What a time to be alive.
I was told that, like why natural diamonds are so
like wanted is because there's like natural impurities in them
and that's the only like attraction to laws. Yeah that
people want, right, they want them slightly flawed. If you
are that particular about your diamond, Oh, we got to
(20:40):
sit you down on the couch.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Right, there's other or you've won life and you've got
nothing to be worried about, and good for you. All right.
We're talking about this crazy story out of Arcadia, this
surrogacy ring, which is the most sanitized way to put it,
it is a baby stealing, trafficking mart black market style situation.
(21:07):
Here twenty one little kids have been rescued from this
California couple who apparently, if you're reading all the facts
of the case like we have, let's just call it
what it is. They farmed out their fertilized embryos to
multiple women who went and put their body through the
hell of giving birth to these babies and then hoarded
(21:30):
the children inside a massive mansion in Arcadia where they
suffered repeated abuse. Because yes, that's the other thing we
didn't get to. There is surveillance video from inside this home,
and it's not good. These two sixty five year old
man thirty eight year old woman were found with fifteen
(21:50):
children in that Arcadia home and then another six kids
had previously been moved out to other homes. But all
of them, twenty one of them have been put now
in state custody and protective care in foster care. Seventeen
of the kids or toddlers or infants. Seventeen of them
(22:13):
are under three years old. The oldest kid is thirteen.
They have been charged the two with felony, child endangerment
and neglect. We don't know what other charges will be
filed against them for the lies that they told all
of these surrogates, these women around the country they were investigating.
(22:36):
This discovery was made when police were investigating a complaint
of a two month old who was brought to the
hospital with a traumatic brain injury, and cops believe the
baby was injured by the family's nanny, a fifty six
year old woman accused of committing what they're calling alarming abuse.
The surveillance footage from inside the home the cops there
(22:58):
in Arcadia were able to get their hands on, and boy,
what a picture did this depict?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Did this show? It shows this fifty six year.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Old nanny shaking and hitting this infant baby, two month old,
a two month old. The video shows other nannies in
this massive home allegedly abusing all of the children, according
to the cops. The Arcadia police lieutenant here saying that
(23:31):
the discipline, both verbal and physical, was severe to the
point where it supported the beliefs that child abuse was
occurring inside the home. Now, all the officials believe all
of these kids are the biological offspring of these two people,
the mom and the dad, but that they were birthed
(23:51):
through multiple women hired through their own surrogacy business. And yes,
that's what they told the cops. We wanted a big family.
So they're trying to peddle the story that, yes, we
used all these surrogates because we wanted a big family.
And to the women that served as surrogates, yes, we
(24:11):
told them that we were struggling with fertility and that
we wanted just one more child. We probably didn't think
it would go over well that we wanted the thirteenth
and the fourteenth or the fifteenth or sixteenth baby. So
we just told them we wanted one more. We had
the one and we wanted one more.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Is that legal? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
The surrogates were hired from around the country, and they
were not aware that there were other surrogate Obviously they
didn't know there were other women carrying this couple's baby
at the same time. One of those surrogate mothers from Pennsylvania,
Kayla Elliott, talked to the press. She said, it's horrific,
(24:56):
it's disturbing, and it's damaging emotionally. I bet she's fighting
to get the baby girl she carried in a permanent home.
She found out that this baby ended up in foster care,
and I mean, you can imagine, right or you can't imagine.
She said, these agencies were supposed to trust them, follow
their guidance, and come to find out this whole thing
(25:18):
was a scam and that the parents own the agency.
None of this was disclosed beforehand. Now, two neighbors, Sarah Arcadia,
say that this home, it's a four million, ten thousand
square foot home, had a similar layout to a hotel,
that it's kind of set up like a hotel with
a big giant lobby and all the rooms are like suits.
(25:41):
So maybe that's how it looks like you walk in.
If this is a baby mart. If this is this
like black market baby mart where people go and they
pick out their babies.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Oh my god, this is such a twilight zone, is
it not?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yes, you know, they walk into this massive mansion and
you know, the foyer is like a lobby, and then
what do they do. They get taken from room to
room to look at the different babies, and then when
they leave, the nannies. The various nannies are abusing these
babies and yelling at them and hitting them.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
What the hell.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Art Romero is a neighbor and he says it's like
around hotel desk that greets you when you walk in,
and that there's a gentleman sitting behind the desk like
a clerk. Now police are still searching for all the
nannies involved with this black market baby business in Arcadia.
(26:34):
The executive director of the Center of Bioethics and Culture
nonprofit said that having so many kids through a surrogacy
is not illegal, but that to me, the smells of
child trafficking. What are the intentions, she says, of having
that many children at home through these assisted reproductive technologies?
(26:58):
They again the two arrests. Did mom and dad call
the claims misguided and wrong? Their company, By the way,
the name of it is Mark Surrogacy, and it's no
longer in business. California is one of fifteen states and
allows a woman to be paid for surrogacy without conditions. Louisiana,
if you're wondering, is the only state that completely prohibits
(27:20):
all paid surrogacy.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Interesting, all right, when.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
We come back the Michael Monks Power Hour. The more
I say that, the more the week goes on, the
more it sounds pretty silly. We've got handwritten notes that
help lead search crews to a mom and son stranded
up in northern California. We'll get into that as well.
Also popular teen texting codes every parent should know. It's
all coming up next on Gary and Shannon.
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