July 23, 2025 • 30 mins
House faces challenges as Speaker Johnson's selected committee disagrees over Epstein. Trump accuses Obama of treason during an Oval Office meeting. Bryan Kohberger is set to be sentenced for the murders of Idaho students.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
When they ever did whenever they do a radio show,
nobody wears headphones.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Dolly Parton had headphones in the show where she was
a radio host. Do you remember that's not the show
the movie Dolly, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Blind Spot for me. You didn't see that.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
You didn't see the movie where Dolly Parton's a radio host.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Nope.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
That seems like it would be right up your alley.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, there's a bunch going on today. We'll be talking
a little bit about the weird crime stories that are
going on here. Of course, the guy that ran his
car through the crowd at the nightclub is doing court today.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Straight Talk nineteen ninety two. That's an actual thing that
someone made. Yeah, it's a great movie with Dolly Parton,
and in it. I don't believe she has headphones on
like the entire higher movie. Oh thank you, Kim Kenna Knnon.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
That's weird because her she's known for One of the
reasons they don't do it on television and in movies
a lot of times is because it messes with people's.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Hair, and her hair is beautiful, and her hair is
so iconic. I mean, that's why they didn't want to
mess with it.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Anyway.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
The other story is, we'll give you an update on
the the case of the American Idol executive killed and
the weirdness about the nine to one one calls that
came in and then bodies weren't discovered for four days.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Well, and it was their own gun, their own gun?
Where was the gun?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I mean, I know this was a couple that was
very worried about recent break ins and the neighborhood. Was
the gun on the kitchen counter? Was it relatively available
in case they needed to use it? I find it
hard to believe that somebody would break in and find
the gun in the home because most guns are put
in places where you don't know where to look.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Supposed to put them in, well, at the very least,
they're supposed to be in a locked case, right.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I mean I would look if I was in a
home looking for a gun.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
The first place I would look would be the bedside table.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
That's not where it is.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
The second place I would look is the bathroom. So
what Yeah, Okay, The third place I would look is
in the bedroom closet top shelf. My grandpa would keep
his guns there. He'd keep his guns in the top
shelf of the bedroom closet. But then the bullets, we
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didn't know where those were allegedly, right, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
And then the other option is they interrupt this guy
because he's supposedly been in the house for half and
are they interrupt the guy one of them goes and
gets the gun and he's able to wrestle it away
from them and use it against them.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, that's a pussble.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Yeah, maybe we'll talk about that.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Next hour we have parenting Justin Warsham is back in
the house today. What you watch on Wednesday. There's a
lot that we got to get through. There's some real
bad TV out there.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I was texting with Deborah Mark last night about Sullivan's Cross.
I am now, this was the show that was heavily
advertised to us, or at least me, on Netflix. It's
Virgin river esque and I got into the first two
seasons are on Netflix and now the third season is
on the CW app because third season is current. It
just the finale was like in July last like a
(03:19):
couple of weeks ago or something. The aarp ads that
flood that show for me is telling that I know
exactly what I'm watching, and it's fair for people in
the twilight of their lives, and you.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Know what, I'm okay with it. You're there, well, I'm
not there.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Well, no, no, but programming wise, I'm there all right.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
In Congress right now, what we refuse to do is
participate in another one of the Democrats' political games. This
is a serious matter. We are not going to let
them use this as a political battering ram. The Rules
Committee became the ground for them to do that. We're
not going to allow them to engage in that charade anymore.
Why do I call it a charade because the Democrats
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are trying to play gotcha politics right now.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
That's Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, and they and
the them that he keeps talking about are Democrats. However,
there are a good number of Republicans who do want
to pass some sort of legislation, even if it's a
non binding resolution, that would call on the Department of
Justice to just dump all of the Epstein files public.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Now, tell me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
But as I understand it, the Democrats want the non
bind they want the binding. They want more of a
binding resolution. Hey, release this stuff. And the Republicans are like, Okay,
this is our way to have our cake and eat
it too. We can say we want it released, but
it's non binding. It's largely symbolic. Right.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
And then when you combine the two there's one specific
bipartisan plan. This is from Tom Massey out of Kentucky,
who is no friend of the president lately, and then
Rocana out of California, the Democrat. The two of them,
their measure would actually have more legal weight to force
release of documents.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
They want balls to the wall on this thing.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
And listen, I don't. I'm not quite sure where Mike
Johnson is coming down on this. We've told you that
he we told you yesterday, made this decision. He was gonna,
I guess, make the last vote Wednesday instead of Thursday,
today instead of tomorrow, so that members of Congress could
go out on their summer vacation.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Mike Johnson's doing what Mike Johnson does, and he's walking
the very thin line of wanting to appear to be
completely transparent but being protective but winning popularity points. He
wants to be able to do all of those things,
and it's dangerous and it's difficult. He has said publicly
that he is in favor, and this is how some
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people are getting around it. The relevant details being released
and then it's up.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
It's very subjective. What does relevant mean?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, I did to tell you yesterday.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Also, they were working on and they did pass one
of the committees did pass a voice vote at least
to issue a subpoena to galect Maxwell to get her
to testify in front of Congress. So at some point, listen,
the members of Congress have to go back to their
districts and they're gonna have to answer questions of their constituents,
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including why has the president or why has the Department
of Justice not followed through on their promise to unveil everything.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Their phones are already flooded.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
It's not that they have to go back home like
it is insane the number of calls that Republican lawmakers
have gotten to their district offices with this being the
main topic.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And you've seen the President try to downplay this multiple
times over the course of the last couple of weeks.
And say even going after Maga Republicans base voters and saying,
you guys, are you're barking up the wrong tree here,
because I know he is savvy enough to realize this
is an issue that could dog them going into the
midterm election.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
He's also savvy enough to phone in that favor the
Wall Street Journal to have them release that story last week.
That did take the pressure off and put the pressure
back on the media of going after Donald Trump, of
being the witch hunt, and now he's trying to even
further distract people with this whole Obama's guilty of treason situation.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
We'll get to pretty good. We'll get into that when
we come back.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Those four Idaho college students who were brutally murdered have
delivered emotional statements today explaining for the first time their
actions on the morning that this guy stabbed their friends.
This is at his sentencing and they're talking about the
attack that night that changed everything. We'll get into the
details of all their comments coming up next.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Listen to some of them already this morning.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
The surviving roommates and the emotional impact indescribable of being
in that scene at the time that you know that
it happened, not having been able to do anything about it.
You discovered the body like it's I can't imagine what
these these two.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Girls have gone to.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, and the family members of the victims are questioning him.
It is very emotionally charged, as intense as you can imagine.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
The leader of the gang was President Obama, Barack Hussein Obama.
Speaker 8 (08:18):
Have you heard of him? And except for the fact
that he gets shielded.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
By the press for his entire life, that's the one
they look.
Speaker 8 (08:27):
He's guilty. Is that a question? You know? I like
to say, Let's give it time. It's there. He's guilty.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
They this was treason. This was every word you can
think of. They tried to steal the election.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
That was yesterday in the in the Oval Office when
President Trump said that former President Obama was guilty of treason.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
He's never gone this far with Obama. No, never gone
to the T word. Tulsey Gabbard kind of got the
ball rolling here on Friday. She threatened to refer Obama
administration officials to the Justice Department for prosecution. This is
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over the intelligence assessment of Russian interference in the twenty
sixteen election. She declassified the documents. She is the director
of National Intelligence. Ye said the information she was releasing
showed a treason his conspiracy in twenty sixteen by top
Obama administration officials to undermine Trump, claims that the Democrats
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called false and politically motivated.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I've been if.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Russia interfered, weren't they moving the ball? Let me see,
let me work on that analogy. Wasn't the assertion that
Russia interfered to give Trump the election? Yes, because she
was wildly favored by the time the whole email thing
came out, right.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yes, Yes, she had been leading in the polls significantly.
And I mean that night, that's one of those nights
that I don't have a dog in that race. Like
I again, we talk about politics, but I'm not so
in love with politics that I cheer my team winning
over the other team.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
We didn't have a team, if I remember correctly.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Our choices were Donald Trump, who was just a wild card,
and Hillary Clinton, who is the most unlikablemate.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
But I remember that night and like the whole watching
election returns and watching with just jaw on the floor.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Again what happened.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, nobody, nobody saw it coming out in the way
that it did. And we had a political consultant who
had come in on a regular basis and talked to us.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
And we were just like, you're off your ass.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
There's how in the world can a guy like Donald Trump,
an outsider, a guy who claims to claim what he
does about politics and how he's going to change the
system nobody wants. That doesn't appeal to anybody. We were
so completely wrong.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, and that's why Hillbilly Elegy was such a must
read for me right away of where all these voters
come from, what is their mindset? And those were the voters,
Those were the voters, by the way, that felt forgotten
by the political elite. These are the voters that bought
the whole Epstein thing about the Clinton Obama child pedophile
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sex ring thing that they were all hiding and government
was hiding same voting groups.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I've gone through some of the information that Tulsea Gabbert
has referred to in terms of reading along with it.
I don't know the official documents that were declassified, but
the idea that this would amount to a treason case
seems pretty far fetched. I mean, the president can say
what he says. Yes, it comes with a different weight
because he says it in the White House, literally in
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the Oval office. But that doesn't mean that Obama is
guilty of trees. And the reality of it is it's
very unlikely that a former president would ever be charged with,
let alone convicted of something like.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
This is just a distraction. Trump wants a distraction.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
They still need a distraction from the Epstein ball that
continues to pick up snow as it rolls down the hill.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I mean, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
The Wall Street Journal thing assuaged people for a while. Okay,
let's get off Trump and the administration about not releasing
this stuff. Let's get back on the fact that the
media wants to bring this guy down. Screw the media,
screw the Wall Street Journal. And then it's like, okay,
that new cycle passes, and now it's back to all right,
what's going on with the Epstein thing. So now here's
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another distraction. Oh, Obama's guilty of treason. Let's be mad
at him for five minutes. Well, just see if this
Epstein thing goes away. See how many distractions it may
take to make it go away. I don't know if
it's going to.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
This day is marked by some incredible testimony.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
In testimony is not the right word.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Victim impacts impact statements, thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
In the University of Idaho quadruple murder story. This is
Brian Coberger, of course, who had pleaded pled guilty and
is going to be sentenced today. But the judge in
that case in a Boise, Idaho, is allowing victim impact
statements and they're unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, the judge in fact, just had to take a
ten minute recess before moving on to statements from another
victims family. That's how heavy this has been. We will
bring you to that courtroom when we come back, let
you know what has been said.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
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Speaker 8 (13:57):
Still.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I don't know how we change any that. I hate
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subscribe to it. It shows up every day right after
the real show, and then you know what I feel.
On the weekends, we do the Weekend Fix, which is
something doesn't air during the regular show.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Do you know what I feel about our pictures?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I feel about our pictures the way I felt when
you'd go to like Sears when you were, you know,
five years old, and it was staged with your parents
and your siblings, and like nobody looks like themselves. You
all are uncomfortable in whatever clothes you're wearing, and it's
just so fake and awful. That's every picture we take.
Did you ever do it with matching clothes?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
You're damn right.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
We did one picture that I remember, probably freshmen in
high school something like that, and we all had matching.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Sweater.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I can't think of what the kind of sweater it was,
but I mean we had matching pattern sweaters. They were
all different colors because Mervin's had a sail, and then
we had turtlenecks underneath the sweaters.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, nineteen eighty seven, Great Oak Hill Park,
eighty two, eighty seven, something like that.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
In high school it would have been eighty seven eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah. The turtle neck sweater combo was yeah, nice. I
gotta pulled a lot of you pulled a lot of
ass with that.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, you know it.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah, my brother wore a turtle neck for a way
too long. And think of my brother if he was
super skinny in high school. So this is the turtle
neck was loose awful.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
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Speaker 2 (15:31):
Investigation into a stabbing outside of a Whole Foods in Brentwood.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I get it parking right.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
The victim was involved in an argument another man when
that suspect stabbed the victim multiple times before they left.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Imagine this. You're in West LA.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
It's four thirty to six thirty in the afternoon on
a Tuesday. You've been sitting You've been sitting in bumper
to bumper traffic where people don't know how to f
and drive and the stoplights aren't programmed correctly, and you
have just been bumper to bumper and your wife calls
and she's like, hey, can you pick up chicken? I
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forgot the chicken, And you're like, f I gotta go
to the freaking Whole Foods. And you get in there
and there's no spots and then you see a spot
and someone cuts you off and takes the spot, and
you're just there and you're just you're boiling, your blood
is boiling, and you get your knife out of your
pocket and you park the you double park the car
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and you stab that guy.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I don't know if that's how it happened, but I
do like your version of it.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
And when you drive, when you when you hail.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
A ride share, sir, when you Uber lift whatever it is, Yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
You open the door and you see it's a woman driver.
Do you feel relieved?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
No?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Okay, Well, Uber is piling a new a new.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I mean I don't feel worse. I just don't feel relieved.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Uber is piloting a new plan which would match female Oh.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I see right, because I'm not going to be assaulted
or what have you. Right, Listen, all I need to
do to prevent an assault is talk to the guy.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
He'll let you out.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
He is not going to come near me.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
The service launches in San Francisco, Detroit, and LA Here
in the next couple of weeks. You can see a
new on demand ride option called women Drivers, alongside the
regular choices of Uber x Comfort, Uber XL, and Uber Black.
You can reserve a trip in advance. You could set
your preference in the app to increase the likelihood of
being matched with a woman driver, but only if you
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also are a.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Woman, especially football season and out come on. I've witnessed
that firsthand in Boise, Idaho. Right now, the sentencing is
taking place for Brian Koberger, the man who snuck into
a rental home near the University of Idaho and killed
four students back in late twenty twenty two. People who
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survive students who survived that in the same house are talking.
Victims' families are talking to siblings, the parents, the grandparents.
Adding another layer to this is that this is a
person who had shown great interest in capturing criminals and
studied under an expert in serial killers. Remember that this
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guy's now thirty. He agreed to a sentence of life
in prison for the crime. This was back in twenty
twenty two. He, like you said, pleaded guilty. That spared
him from the death penalty. But this is someone who
studied criminal justice very much into it and studied under
like I said, that serial killer expert.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
We talked before about who this guy is.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I mean those types of personality characteristics that he had
that drove him into that line of study. It's also
odd to see him sitting in the courtroom with zero
response emotionally, physically, facially, anything to the He's incredible.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
That's what I expected, though, Like if you're the kind
of guy who breaks into a home and stabs and
kills four young people that you don't know, and for
no reason you're a psychopath, you don't feel there's no
there there yea. What was interesting to me is his
mother is in the courtroom as well.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
So the first two people that spoke this morning in
these victim impact statements were the two women, young women
who were in the home that were not killed. Bethany Funk.
Funky Funk is the first one.
Speaker 9 (19:36):
My heart breaks every time I go to text one
of them or how badly I wish I could see
and hang out with them, and then I remember I cannot,
I will never be able to again. But I still
talk to them in my prayers every single night, and
I always will. I wish, more than anything I could
hug them one last time, and I wish I could
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tell them how much I love them, And even though
I cannot, I still tell them every night. I will
keep living for them as long as I am lucky
enough to still be here, and they were all truly
one of a kind, and they will be in our
hearts forever.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Noise Dylan Mortensen was the other young woman who is
in the home.
Speaker 10 (20:16):
What happened that night changed everything because of him, for
a beautiful, genuine, compassionate people. We're taken from this world
for no reason.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
She actually sat in the lead prosecutor's chair instead of
standing at the podium. I mean, listen, they could do
whatever they want, because this is already a difficult enough
situation for them to be in.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
But this is the way, she concluded her remarks.
Speaker 10 (20:51):
He will never take the memories I had with them.
He will never erase the love we shared, the last
we had, or the way they made me feel seen
and whole. Those things are mine. They're is sacred and
he will never touch them. I get to feel sadness,
I get to feel rage. I get to feel joy
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even when it's hard. I get to feel love even
when it hurts. I get to live and well, I
will still live with this pin. At least I get
to live my life. He will stay here, empty, for
gotten and powerless.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Wow, that is an emotionally mature way of looking at things.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, and even three years on. You know, two and
a half years after the events of that night. I
can't imagine now getting up there and these two women
specifically reliving everything from that night in the nation.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I've talked to people as when I was a reporter
who have done this and given these statements, and they
they have said that.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
It is cathartic, but it is good to get it.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Out, and it is good to do it in this setting,
as hard as it is that it feels like you're
you know, I don't want to say it feels good
or it feels cleansing or healing.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
It just it's cathartic.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I guess Olivia is the sister of Kaylee, and she
started asking him questions. She called them a sociopath, a coward,
and just started asking questions, where's the murder weapon? What
were Kaylee's last words? Do you feel anything at all?
And I can imagine that anger of like something, give
us something, show something. Why aren't you do you feel anything?
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Like that would be so frustrating and maddening. But I mean,
the woman that you just played has, like I said,
the most emotionally mature way of looking at it.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Of you know, you can miss them.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
You can love them, you can miss all the things
that you're not going to be able to do with them,
but that you know in race the living.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I guess some of the family members of these victims
have not taken the stand or you know, given offered
the victim witness statements, but they would have lawyers read them.
For example of the you know, the parents who lost
their college age kid. They can't read it. They leave
it to their attorney to do so.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I mentioned the mother is in the courtroom. The killer's
mother is there.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
They've just gone back to the courtroom after a short break,
and I want to tell you when we come back,
the defendant did something towards his mother.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
That's a pretty frustrating.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 2 (23:44):
We've been telling you that ongoing today inside a courthouse
in Boise, Idaho, the sentencing and the victim impact statements
for the University of Idaho quadruple murders. Jeffrey Kerr noodles
An a ker Noodle's father, is speaking to the court now.
A little bit earlier today, Scott Laramie spoke. Scott Laramie
is the stepfather of Mattie Mogan, one of the four victims,
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and said that her death death sorry left a void
in the family, but that they are determined to honor
her legacy for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
We are done being victims. We are taking back our lives.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
We will turn our time, talents, and attention to hope,
healing and helping others, and to the future.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
During a break in the hearing, because it's been so
intense and so emotional, they have taken several breaks in
between the families and the survivors that have spoken, the
defendant was taken out of the courtroom in shackles. His mother.
Excuse me, his mother is in the courtroom. When he
was taken out in the shackles, she put her head
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in her hands. She started fidgeting with her purse. When
the break was over, he walks back in, looks at
his mother and smiles, seemingly the only reaction at all
we've seen really from him. Smiles at his mother as
he walks back in. In between these emotional accounts of
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what he put people through and will continue to put
people through for the rest of their.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Lives, he smiled and she nodded back at him.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I think this is there's the most impactful I've been
in a handful of hearings like this as a reporter
like you mentioned, obviously, as an observer, and not as
somebody who was directly impacted by whatever crime they happen
to be talking about. And I think the one that
was most similar to this in a way was Gary Ridgway,
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who was a Green River killer and there was a
series of family members and again this was one that
went on all day because he had so many victims,
and there were so many of these young women that
he killed who had kids or were young themselves, so
their parents were there. I mean, they direct family members
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that would eventually go on to make these victim impact statements.
The difference being the women that Gary Ridgeway would victimize
were the ones that were sort of on the outskirts
of society, those runaways or prostitutes or women that he
thought would not be worried about once he disposed of them.
This is a very different situation because these are four
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college students, not that their value is bet higher than
someone who isn't a college student, but the community that's
around them is a lot more unified, and I think
It's hard to describe the feeling that in a courtroom
like that or in a situation like that, because, as
you mentioned, some of these people are getting to confront
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this guy for the first time and last time. But
this is their only opportunity to confront this guy. So
they're going to level the questions at him, They're going
to level their anger directly at him, and somehow come
away with the feeling that the trying to reach that
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catharsis you know, like you said, that word, it's such
an important word, but it's not closure. For a lot
of them. It's not an end to this. You know,
this doesn't end the memories that they have with their people.
There's one family that's not there. Ethan Chapin's family is
not there, and they had said as much when the
plea deal was announced. That surprised the other families. They
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said that this was done. One of the father of
Ethan chap and Jim, when he found out that there
was a plea deal, there was going to be no trial.
This guy was going to go to jail for the
rest of his life. Jim said, if I could physically
do a handstand, I probably would do.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
And I am so ready for this to be done.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, that just being done, I mean having to relive
this and just every notification you get from the DA's
office or the detectives, and it's just this constant weight
of sadness and horror that you know in like you said, closure,
you never get closure with these things. Oftentimes when the
word closure comes up, it's situations where you're never going
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to have it. You're just not But there's nothing that
this psychopath, this weak piece of s psychopath, is going
to do that's going to satisfy anybody in that courtroom.
His reaction if he started crying, if he started shouting
on I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry, that would be
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the same as him sitting there.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
And not reacting at all. You're going to get nothing
out of that.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
So whatever like that that girl said that you played earlier,
whatever sort of solace that you can move forward with,
it's got to come from you.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
You can't come from him at all.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Does he speak no? Why?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I think so no, because I think the arrogance that
comes with that kind of an act.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
If he's been a narcissist, I think he. I don't know.
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I'm not a doctor, and some of these guys can't
can't not speak, That's what I mean. But I don't
think he's one of them. But I again, I'm not
a doctor.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
All right, We'll keep an eye on that as that
hearing goes on throughout the course of the day. Local
stuff that's going on, including the double murdered American idol
exec and spouse killed in their home in Encino. Some
of the weird acts, the weird accounts that happened before
the bodies were even found.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
We'll talk about that when we come back. You've been
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Speaker 2 (29:54):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
When they ever did whenever they do a radio show,
nobody wears headphones.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Dolly Parton had headphones in the show where she was
a radio host. Do you remember that's not the show
the movie Dolly, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Blind Spot for me. You didn't see that.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
You didn't see the movie where Dolly Parton's a radio host.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Nope.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
That seems like it would be right up your alley.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, there's a bunch going on today. We'll be talking
a little bit about the weird crime stories that are
going on here. Of course, the guy that ran his
car through the crowd at the nightclub is doing court today.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Straight Talk nineteen ninety two. That's an actual thing that
someone made. Yeah, it's a great movie with Dolly Parton,
and in it. I don't believe she has headphones on
like the entire higher movie. Oh thank you, Kim Kenna Knnon.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
That's weird because her she's known for One of the
reasons they don't do it on television and in movies
a lot of times is because it messes with people's.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Hair, and her hair is beautiful, and her hair is
so iconic. I mean, that's why they didn't want to
mess with it.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Anyway.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
The other story is, we'll give you an update on
the the case of the American Idol executive killed and
the weirdness about the nine to one one calls that
came in and then bodies weren't discovered for four days.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Well, and it was their own gun, their own gun?
Where was the gun?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I mean, I know this was a couple that was
very worried about recent break ins and the neighborhood. Was
the gun on the kitchen counter? Was it relatively available
in case they needed to use it? I find it
hard to believe that somebody would break in and find
the gun in the home because most guns are put
in places where you don't know where to look.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Supposed to put them in, well, at the very least,
they're supposed to be in a locked case, right.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I mean I would look if I was in a
home looking for a gun.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
The first place I would look would be the bedside table.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
That's not where it is.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
The second place I would look is the bathroom. So
what Yeah, Okay, The third place I would look is
in the bedroom closet top shelf. My grandpa would keep
his guns there. He'd keep his guns in the top
shelf of the bedroom closet. But then the bullets, we
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didn't know where those were allegedly, right, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
And then the other option is they interrupt this guy
because he's supposedly been in the house for half and
are they interrupt the guy one of them goes and
gets the gun and he's able to wrestle it away
from them and use it against them.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, that's a pussble.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Yeah, maybe we'll talk about that.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Next hour we have parenting Justin Warsham is back in
the house today. What you watch on Wednesday. There's a
lot that we got to get through. There's some real
bad TV out there.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I was texting with Deborah Mark last night about Sullivan's Cross.
I am now, this was the show that was heavily
advertised to us, or at least me, on Netflix. It's
Virgin river esque and I got into the first two
seasons are on Netflix and now the third season is
on the CW app because third season is current. It
just the finale was like in July last like a
(03:19):
couple of weeks ago or something. The aarp ads that
flood that show for me is telling that I know
exactly what I'm watching, and it's fair for people in
the twilight of their lives, and you.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Know what, I'm okay with it. You're there, well, I'm
not there.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Well, no, no, but programming wise, I'm there all right.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
In Congress right now, what we refuse to do is
participate in another one of the Democrats' political games. This
is a serious matter. We are not going to let
them use this as a political battering ram. The Rules
Committee became the ground for them to do that. We're
not going to allow them to engage in that charade anymore.
Why do I call it a charade because the Democrats
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are trying to play gotcha politics right now.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
That's Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, and they and
the them that he keeps talking about are Democrats. However,
there are a good number of Republicans who do want
to pass some sort of legislation, even if it's a
non binding resolution, that would call on the Department of
Justice to just dump all of the Epstein files public.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Now, tell me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
But as I understand it, the Democrats want the non
bind they want the binding. They want more of a
binding resolution. Hey, release this stuff. And the Republicans are like, Okay,
this is our way to have our cake and eat
it too. We can say we want it released, but
it's non binding. It's largely symbolic. Right.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
And then when you combine the two there's one specific
bipartisan plan. This is from Tom Massey out of Kentucky,
who is no friend of the president lately, and then
Rocana out of California, the Democrat. The two of them,
their measure would actually have more legal weight to force
release of documents.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
They want balls to the wall on this thing.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
And listen, I don't. I'm not quite sure where Mike
Johnson is coming down on this. We've told you that
he we told you yesterday, made this decision. He was gonna,
I guess, make the last vote Wednesday instead of Thursday,
today instead of tomorrow, so that members of Congress could
go out on their summer vacation.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Mike Johnson's doing what Mike Johnson does, and he's walking
the very thin line of wanting to appear to be
completely transparent but being protective but winning popularity points. He
wants to be able to do all of those things,
and it's dangerous and it's difficult. He has said publicly
that he is in favor, and this is how some
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people are getting around it. The relevant details being released
and then it's up.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
It's very subjective. What does relevant mean?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, I did to tell you yesterday.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Also, they were working on and they did pass one
of the committees did pass a voice vote at least
to issue a subpoena to galect Maxwell to get her
to testify in front of Congress. So at some point, listen,
the members of Congress have to go back to their
districts and they're gonna have to answer questions of their constituents,
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including why has the president or why has the Department
of Justice not followed through on their promise to unveil everything.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Their phones are already flooded.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
It's not that they have to go back home like
it is insane the number of calls that Republican lawmakers
have gotten to their district offices with this being the
main topic.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And you've seen the President try to downplay this multiple
times over the course of the last couple of weeks.
And say even going after Maga Republicans base voters and saying,
you guys, are you're barking up the wrong tree here,
because I know he is savvy enough to realize this
is an issue that could dog them going into the
midterm election.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
He's also savvy enough to phone in that favor the
Wall Street Journal to have them release that story last week.
That did take the pressure off and put the pressure
back on the media of going after Donald Trump, of
being the witch hunt, and now he's trying to even
further distract people with this whole Obama's guilty of treason situation.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
We'll get to pretty good. We'll get into that when
we come back.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Those four Idaho college students who were brutally murdered have
delivered emotional statements today explaining for the first time their
actions on the morning that this guy stabbed their friends.
This is at his sentencing and they're talking about the
attack that night that changed everything. We'll get into the
details of all their comments coming up next.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Listen to some of them already this morning.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
The surviving roommates and the emotional impact indescribable of being
in that scene at the time that you know that
it happened, not having been able to do anything about it.
You discovered the body like it's I can't imagine what
these these two.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Girls have gone to.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, and the family members of the victims are questioning him.
It is very emotionally charged, as intense as you can imagine.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
The leader of the gang was President Obama, Barack Hussein Obama.
Speaker 8 (08:18):
Have you heard of him? And except for the fact
that he gets shielded.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
By the press for his entire life, that's the one
they look.
Speaker 8 (08:27):
He's guilty. Is that a question? You know? I like
to say, Let's give it time. It's there. He's guilty.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
They this was treason. This was every word you can
think of. They tried to steal the election.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
That was yesterday in the in the Oval Office when
President Trump said that former President Obama was guilty of treason.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
He's never gone this far with Obama. No, never gone
to the T word. Tulsey Gabbard kind of got the
ball rolling here on Friday. She threatened to refer Obama
administration officials to the Justice Department for prosecution. This is
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over the intelligence assessment of Russian interference in the twenty
sixteen election. She declassified the documents. She is the director
of National Intelligence. Ye said the information she was releasing
showed a treason his conspiracy in twenty sixteen by top
Obama administration officials to undermine Trump, claims that the Democrats
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called false and politically motivated.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I've been if.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Russia interfered, weren't they moving the ball? Let me see,
let me work on that analogy. Wasn't the assertion that
Russia interfered to give Trump the election? Yes, because she
was wildly favored by the time the whole email thing
came out, right.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yes, Yes, she had been leading in the polls significantly.
And I mean that night, that's one of those nights
that I don't have a dog in that race. Like
I again, we talk about politics, but I'm not so
in love with politics that I cheer my team winning
over the other team.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
We didn't have a team, if I remember correctly.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Our choices were Donald Trump, who was just a wild card,
and Hillary Clinton, who is the most unlikablemate.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
But I remember that night and like the whole watching
election returns and watching with just jaw on the floor.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Again what happened.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, nobody, nobody saw it coming out in the way
that it did. And we had a political consultant who
had come in on a regular basis and talked to us.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
And we were just like, you're off your ass.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
There's how in the world can a guy like Donald Trump,
an outsider, a guy who claims to claim what he
does about politics and how he's going to change the
system nobody wants. That doesn't appeal to anybody. We were
so completely wrong.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, and that's why Hillbilly Elegy was such a must
read for me right away of where all these voters
come from, what is their mindset? And those were the voters,
Those were the voters, by the way, that felt forgotten
by the political elite. These are the voters that bought
the whole Epstein thing about the Clinton Obama child pedophile
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sex ring thing that they were all hiding and government
was hiding same voting groups.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I've gone through some of the information that Tulsea Gabbert
has referred to in terms of reading along with it.
I don't know the official documents that were declassified, but
the idea that this would amount to a treason case
seems pretty far fetched. I mean, the president can say
what he says. Yes, it comes with a different weight
because he says it in the White House, literally in
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the Oval office. But that doesn't mean that Obama is
guilty of trees. And the reality of it is it's
very unlikely that a former president would ever be charged with,
let alone convicted of something like.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
This is just a distraction. Trump wants a distraction.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
They still need a distraction from the Epstein ball that
continues to pick up snow as it rolls down the hill.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I mean, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
The Wall Street Journal thing assuaged people for a while. Okay,
let's get off Trump and the administration about not releasing
this stuff. Let's get back on the fact that the
media wants to bring this guy down. Screw the media,
screw the Wall Street Journal. And then it's like, okay,
that new cycle passes, and now it's back to all right,
what's going on with the Epstein thing. So now here's
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another distraction. Oh, Obama's guilty of treason. Let's be mad
at him for five minutes. Well, just see if this
Epstein thing goes away. See how many distractions it may
take to make it go away. I don't know if
it's going to.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
This day is marked by some incredible testimony.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
In testimony is not the right word.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Victim impacts impact statements, thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
In the University of Idaho quadruple murder story. This is
Brian Coberger, of course, who had pleaded pled guilty and
is going to be sentenced today. But the judge in
that case in a Boise, Idaho, is allowing victim impact
statements and they're unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, the judge in fact, just had to take a
ten minute recess before moving on to statements from another
victims family. That's how heavy this has been. We will
bring you to that courtroom when we come back, let
you know what has been said.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Hey, you miss any part of our show, you can
always go back and check out the podcast. In fact,
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Speaker 8 (13:57):
Still.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I don't know how we change any that. I hate
all of our pictures. All you need to do is
subscribe to it. It shows up every day right after
the real show, and then you know what I feel.
On the weekends, we do the Weekend Fix, which is
something doesn't air during the regular show.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Do you know what I feel about our pictures?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I feel about our pictures the way I felt when
you'd go to like Sears when you were, you know,
five years old, and it was staged with your parents
and your siblings, and like nobody looks like themselves. You
all are uncomfortable in whatever clothes you're wearing, and it's
just so fake and awful. That's every picture we take.
Did you ever do it with matching clothes?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
You're damn right.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
We did one picture that I remember, probably freshmen in
high school something like that, and we all had matching.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Sweater.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I can't think of what the kind of sweater it was,
but I mean we had matching pattern sweaters. They were
all different colors because Mervin's had a sail, and then
we had turtlenecks underneath the sweaters.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, nineteen eighty seven, Great Oak Hill Park,
eighty two, eighty seven, something like that.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
In high school it would have been eighty seven eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah. The turtle neck sweater combo was yeah, nice. I
gotta pulled a lot of you pulled a lot of
ass with that.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, you know it.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah, my brother wore a turtle neck for a way
too long. And think of my brother if he was
super skinny in high school. So this is the turtle
neck was loose awful.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Investigation into a stabbing outside of a Whole Foods in Brentwood.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I get it parking right.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
The victim was involved in an argument another man when
that suspect stabbed the victim multiple times before they left.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Imagine this. You're in West LA.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
It's four thirty to six thirty in the afternoon on
a Tuesday. You've been sitting You've been sitting in bumper
to bumper traffic where people don't know how to f
and drive and the stoplights aren't programmed correctly, and you
have just been bumper to bumper and your wife calls
and she's like, hey, can you pick up chicken? I
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forgot the chicken, And you're like, f I gotta go
to the freaking Whole Foods. And you get in there
and there's no spots and then you see a spot
and someone cuts you off and takes the spot, and
you're just there and you're just you're boiling, your blood
is boiling, and you get your knife out of your
pocket and you park the you double park the car
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and you stab that guy.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I don't know if that's how it happened, but I
do like your version of it.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
And when you drive, when you when you hail.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
A ride share, sir, when you Uber lift whatever it is, Yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
You open the door and you see it's a woman driver.
Do you feel relieved?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
No?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Okay, Well, Uber is piling a new a new.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I mean I don't feel worse. I just don't feel relieved.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Uber is piloting a new plan which would match female Oh.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I see right, because I'm not going to be assaulted
or what have you. Right, Listen, all I need to
do to prevent an assault is talk to the guy.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
He'll let you out.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
He is not going to come near me.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
The service launches in San Francisco, Detroit, and LA Here
in the next couple of weeks. You can see a
new on demand ride option called women Drivers, alongside the
regular choices of Uber x Comfort, Uber XL, and Uber Black.
You can reserve a trip in advance. You could set
your preference in the app to increase the likelihood of
being matched with a woman driver, but only if you
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also are a.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Woman, especially football season and out come on. I've witnessed
that firsthand in Boise, Idaho. Right now, the sentencing is
taking place for Brian Koberger, the man who snuck into
a rental home near the University of Idaho and killed
four students back in late twenty twenty two. People who
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survive students who survived that in the same house are talking.
Victims' families are talking to siblings, the parents, the grandparents.
Adding another layer to this is that this is a
person who had shown great interest in capturing criminals and
studied under an expert in serial killers. Remember that this
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guy's now thirty. He agreed to a sentence of life
in prison for the crime. This was back in twenty
twenty two. He, like you said, pleaded guilty. That spared
him from the death penalty. But this is someone who
studied criminal justice very much into it and studied under
like I said, that serial killer expert.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
We talked before about who this guy is.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I mean those types of personality characteristics that he had
that drove him into that line of study. It's also
odd to see him sitting in the courtroom with zero
response emotionally, physically, facially, anything to the He's incredible.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
That's what I expected, though, Like if you're the kind
of guy who breaks into a home and stabs and
kills four young people that you don't know, and for
no reason you're a psychopath, you don't feel there's no
there there yea. What was interesting to me is his
mother is in the courtroom as well.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
So the first two people that spoke this morning in
these victim impact statements were the two women, young women
who were in the home that were not killed. Bethany Funk.
Funky Funk is the first one.
Speaker 9 (19:36):
My heart breaks every time I go to text one
of them or how badly I wish I could see
and hang out with them, and then I remember I cannot,
I will never be able to again. But I still
talk to them in my prayers every single night, and
I always will. I wish, more than anything I could
hug them one last time, and I wish I could
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tell them how much I love them, And even though
I cannot, I still tell them every night. I will
keep living for them as long as I am lucky
enough to still be here, and they were all truly
one of a kind, and they will be in our
hearts forever.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Noise Dylan Mortensen was the other young woman who is
in the home.
Speaker 10 (20:16):
What happened that night changed everything because of him, for
a beautiful, genuine, compassionate people. We're taken from this world
for no reason.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
She actually sat in the lead prosecutor's chair instead of
standing at the podium. I mean, listen, they could do
whatever they want, because this is already a difficult enough
situation for them to be in.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
But this is the way, she concluded her remarks.
Speaker 10 (20:51):
He will never take the memories I had with them.
He will never erase the love we shared, the last
we had, or the way they made me feel seen
and whole. Those things are mine. They're is sacred and
he will never touch them. I get to feel sadness,
I get to feel rage. I get to feel joy
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even when it's hard. I get to feel love even
when it hurts. I get to live and well, I
will still live with this pin. At least I get
to live my life. He will stay here, empty, for
gotten and powerless.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Wow, that is an emotionally mature way of looking at things.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, and even three years on. You know, two and
a half years after the events of that night. I
can't imagine now getting up there and these two women
specifically reliving everything from that night in the nation.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I've talked to people as when I was a reporter
who have done this and given these statements, and they
they have said that.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
It is cathartic, but it is good to get it.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Out, and it is good to do it in this setting,
as hard as it is that it feels like you're
you know, I don't want to say it feels good
or it feels cleansing or healing.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
It just it's cathartic.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I guess Olivia is the sister of Kaylee, and she
started asking him questions. She called them a sociopath, a coward,
and just started asking questions, where's the murder weapon? What
were Kaylee's last words? Do you feel anything at all?
And I can imagine that anger of like something, give
us something, show something. Why aren't you do you feel anything?
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Like that would be so frustrating and maddening. But I mean,
the woman that you just played has, like I said,
the most emotionally mature way of looking at it.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Of you know, you can miss them.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
You can love them, you can miss all the things
that you're not going to be able to do with them,
but that you know in race the living.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I guess some of the family members of these victims
have not taken the stand or you know, given offered
the victim witness statements, but they would have lawyers read them.
For example of the you know, the parents who lost
their college age kid. They can't read it. They leave
it to their attorney to do so.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I mentioned the mother is in the courtroom. The killer's
mother is there.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
They've just gone back to the courtroom after a short break,
and I want to tell you when we come back,
the defendant did something towards his mother.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
That's a pretty frustrating.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
We've been telling you that ongoing today inside a courthouse
in Boise, Idaho, the sentencing and the victim impact statements
for the University of Idaho quadruple murders. Jeffrey Kerr noodles
An a ker Noodle's father, is speaking to the court now.
A little bit earlier today, Scott Laramie spoke. Scott Laramie
is the stepfather of Mattie Mogan, one of the four victims,
(24:08):
and said that her death death sorry left a void
in the family, but that they are determined to honor
her legacy for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
We are done being victims. We are taking back our lives.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
We will turn our time, talents, and attention to hope,
healing and helping others, and to the future.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
During a break in the hearing, because it's been so
intense and so emotional, they have taken several breaks in
between the families and the survivors that have spoken, the
defendant was taken out of the courtroom in shackles. His mother.
Excuse me, his mother is in the courtroom. When he
was taken out in the shackles, she put her head
(24:54):
in her hands. She started fidgeting with her purse. When
the break was over, he walks back in, looks at
his mother and smiles, seemingly the only reaction at all
we've seen really from him. Smiles at his mother as
he walks back in. In between these emotional accounts of
(25:19):
what he put people through and will continue to put
people through for the rest of their.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Lives, he smiled and she nodded back at him.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I think this is there's the most impactful I've been
in a handful of hearings like this as a reporter
like you mentioned, obviously, as an observer, and not as
somebody who was directly impacted by whatever crime they happen
to be talking about. And I think the one that
was most similar to this in a way was Gary Ridgway,
(25:53):
who was a Green River killer and there was a
series of family members and again this was one that
went on all day because he had so many victims,
and there were so many of these young women that
he killed who had kids or were young themselves, so
their parents were there. I mean, they direct family members
(26:13):
that would eventually go on to make these victim impact statements.
The difference being the women that Gary Ridgeway would victimize
were the ones that were sort of on the outskirts
of society, those runaways or prostitutes or women that he
thought would not be worried about once he disposed of them.
This is a very different situation because these are four
(26:36):
college students, not that their value is bet higher than
someone who isn't a college student, but the community that's
around them is a lot more unified, and I think
It's hard to describe the feeling that in a courtroom
like that or in a situation like that, because, as
you mentioned, some of these people are getting to confront
(26:59):
this guy for the first time and last time. But
this is their only opportunity to confront this guy. So
they're going to level the questions at him, They're going
to level their anger directly at him, and somehow come
away with the feeling that the trying to reach that
(27:20):
catharsis you know, like you said, that word, it's such
an important word, but it's not closure. For a lot
of them. It's not an end to this. You know,
this doesn't end the memories that they have with their people.
There's one family that's not there. Ethan Chapin's family is
not there, and they had said as much when the
plea deal was announced. That surprised the other families. They
(27:44):
said that this was done. One of the father of
Ethan chap and Jim, when he found out that there
was a plea deal, there was going to be no trial.
This guy was going to go to jail for the
rest of his life. Jim said, if I could physically
do a handstand, I probably would do.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
And I am so ready for this to be done.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, that just being done, I mean having to relive
this and just every notification you get from the DA's
office or the detectives, and it's just this constant weight
of sadness and horror that you know in like you said, closure,
you never get closure with these things. Oftentimes when the
word closure comes up, it's situations where you're never going
(28:24):
to have it. You're just not But there's nothing that
this psychopath, this weak piece of s psychopath, is going
to do that's going to satisfy anybody in that courtroom.
His reaction if he started crying, if he started shouting
on I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry, that would be
(28:45):
the same as him sitting there.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
And not reacting at all. You're going to get nothing
out of that.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
So whatever like that that girl said that you played earlier,
whatever sort of solace that you can move forward with,
it's got to come from you.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
You can't come from him at all.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Does he speak no? Why?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I think so no, because I think the arrogance that
comes with that kind of an act.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
If he's been a narcissist, I think he. I don't know.
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I'm not a doctor, and some of these guys can't
can't not speak, That's what I mean. But I don't
think he's one of them. But I again, I'm not
a doctor.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
All right, We'll keep an eye on that as that
hearing goes on throughout the course of the day. Local
stuff that's going on, including the double murdered American idol
exec and spouse killed in their home in Encino. Some
of the weird acts, the weird accounts that happened before
the bodies were even found.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
We'll talk about that when we come back. You've been
listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,
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