April 28, 2025 • 24 mins
The conclave to choose a new pope will start on May 7. A driver kills 11 people in Vancouver. Spain and Portugal experience a massive power outage. Putin announces a ceasefire from May 8 to 10. Gen Z is increasingly finding religion.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. The conclave has been said it
will start on May seventh.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
We should really get into this.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I really think that we should get some skin in
the game when it comes to who the next pope
is going to be. I think we should narrow down
the field and we should make some friendly wagers, not
with money, but with our heart. The Vatican says that
the cardinals will have a little over a week to
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discuss campaign get to know all the potential contenders. Remember
when we talked to Raymond Arroyo, a host of the
Arroyo Grande podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Who's covered popes for decades.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
He said that this last pope, Pope Francis, who just
died at the age of eighty eight, he wasn't much
for holding the house parties. He never really had the
cardinals over the way that prior popes had. So these
cardinals have a bit of time, need a bit of
time to get to know one another, to spend some
time together.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I wonder how much of this is also pr version
of they want to do sort of the informal polling
in these couple of days before they actually.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Take their f It's like a jury, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, you get into the jury room, you're like, let's
see where we're all at, and then we'll talk about
it and see where we're.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
At again and then make a make an actual vote. Yes,
I don't know. I don't know if it plays into
their thinking. Whoever they are, whoever the top people would
be there at the Vatican, do they need to come
out and have this thing decided within a couple of votes, right?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Do they need to do it within a day or two?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Or is it better to show that there is a
selection process that you know, everybody gets their say, they
go through different votes and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
And I don't know what they're thinking.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Would be Well, the average, I believe is four days
for the conclave, So I think if you pass for days,
then you start to have those questions. Is their consternation,
is there a conflict? What's going on? Why is it
taking so long? If it happens too quickly, I think
you're absolutely right. People start asking the questions of how
did it happen so quickly?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Are we going to have a Hung jury. Are we
gonna have a Hong kongclave?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Who's it better for if they come out quickly? Is
it the prosecution at the defense?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
One of the what I think was most interesting candidates
to be the next pope that came out over the
weekend as a guy who's considered to be pretty conservative,
especially compared to Francis. And his name is Cardinal Friedeline Ambongo.
He is the president of the Symposium of Episcopal Conferences
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of Africa and Madagascar. This is the Archbishop of Kinshasa
in the DRC Democratic Republic of Congo, Congo. He apparently
got attention for leading African bishops in the unanimous rejection
of the Fiducia Suplicants, which was a I think I
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mixed Italian and French. There a declaration that the Vatican
issued a couple of years ago that included guidelines on
the blessings of people in same sex relationships. Remember Pope
Francis famously said who is he to judge when it
came to people in same sex relationships who are seeking God?
This is a guy who is very conservative. Sixty five
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years old, so I guess relatively young for a pope.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Papal candidate.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Known as a supporter of Orthodoxy, he defends priestly celibacy
the church's moral teachings. He's also known as a promoter
of social justice, a champion of the poor and the voiceless,
they like to say, and is pretty outspoken when it
comes to his criticism of the government.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
From DRC, he.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Would be interesting to have a pope come from Africa.
My money is on Peter, not your dog, but the
Archbishop of boot Past, Hungary, Peter Urdu.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
He's seventy two.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
He is.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Very orthodox, very orthodox Christian, yet does also have the
respect of liberals. He's on the conservative side, but not
so far is the pendulum swinging with him to be
as diametrically opposed as the last pope. But my early
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bet is on Peter. I've got him at six to
one odds. I think the other one the other.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
If they were gonna if the cardinals decide that they're
going to stick with sort of the the more progressive
and you know, using that term knowingly that it's not
incredibly progressive, but a more progressive approach, they could go
with the Cardinal of the Philippines. He is also a
guy who has known as the Asian Francis because of
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his attitudes towards caring for the poor, welcoming LGBTQ people
into the Catholics, divorced Catholics, remarried Catholics. He's been very
open minded about all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I keep hearing the term canon lawyer, which I had
never heard before. Obviously a lawyer of the church well
versed in canon law. A number of them are canon lawyers.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So, like you said, a week from tomorrow May seventh,
May seventh, the day we'll start with Mass at Saint
Peter's Basilica, they all head back over to the Sistine
Chapel to start their voting. And we know, of course
we're looking for white smoke. Black smoke means that they
voted and didn't pick somebody.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
To be They have burned the pizza and the.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Is that an Italian joke?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
No, I just I burned a pizza once in an
apartment and I remember thought, my girlfriend's why are you
voting for?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Boyfriend can out of his room and he said, the
house is smoking girls, The house.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Is smoking girls.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Wow, he was a little older. Oh he's dead. He died.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
What I know because you killed it What a twist.
You should never what a twist.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
They're dying on us now, all right.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
A very strange story out of Vancouver, Canada yesterday, but
also a strange story internationally. Powers out in some major
European country.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Outage and it means a lot for transportation in areas
where you can actually use public transportation.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It's wild.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
It's this thing where like you can get on a
train and it takes you to the airport from various
parts of the city.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Relatively clean, too wild.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
We use everything in here. I mean, let no crisis
go unused in America.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
In this case, this thirty year old was charged with
eight counts of second degree murder in this video before
a judge yesterday, just a few hours after he was arrested.
The reason it's eight counts of murder a second degree
versus eleven considering we have eleven deaths. The charges were
filed before those other three people had died, so there
will be more charges. Interestingly, investigators said they ruled out
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terrorism as a motive. They said that this guy is
known by police Kai g Adam Low thirty years old,
because of a series of mental health issues that he
had had and contacts with police.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
As a result.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
The ages of those who were killed between five and
sixty five. About two dozen people injured, some of them critically,
when he sped down the street just after eight o'clock
again at the Lapoo Lapoo Day festival. So this other
international story is this huge power outage that hit both
Spain and Portugal parts of France. Energy authorities said there
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was a disruption in the European grid and at this
point not immediately clear what caused the outage. Anytime something
like this happens, think back to the outage that affected
Heathrow Airport a couple of weeks ago, there is an assumption,
I believe that Vladimir Putin may have had something to
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do with it, because of his desire to foment distrust
and to disrupt everyday life in Europe. At this point,
again they say there is no evidence that it was
a cyber attack, but the national energy supplier of the
nation of Portugal said the interruption was due to a
problem in the European electricity grid.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
There's no evidence that there was an attack, but is
there evidence.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
It wasn't correct. That's the way to keep it in mind.
The French electrical grid operator said that some of the
households in the Basque region of France did briefly lose electricity,
but they have been restored. The problem is outside of
ATM's banks, connecting to the internet has been a problem.
Phone networks in Spain and Portugal have been out and
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they're asking people to avoid driving as much as possible
because of the traffic lights and road signs correct well.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Because the subways are out and this is how people
get to and from everywhere. Spain's national rail company works amazingly,
so people commuting either in and out of Madrid and
Valencia and all of that.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
It's all been cut off.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
So the subways, the rail all of it. The Portuguese
banks and schools closed. Matches for the Madrid Open tennis
tournament were suspended, all the hospitals in Spain. Many hospitals
in Spain forced to run on generators.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And the fact of the matter is this has been
going on for a while.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
It's been several hours so far.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
In Portugal's capital, they note that people are trying to
beat daylight. They're trying to get some stuff, supplies and
everything to have before nighttime comes. I don't know what
they're concerned. I mean, I don't know are they concerned
this is.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Gonna be days?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Well, they said it's six to ten hours.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Spanish power distributor red Electrica said restoring power fully to
the country and Portugal could take six to ten hours.
It is by mid afternoon there, so what is it
seven eight hours ahead of us. Voltage was progressively, they say,
being restored in the north, south and west of the peninsula.
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So it's not fully back, but they're they're working to
get it back. Six to ten hours is a long time,
very long time, especially when you're looking at that kind
of abroad. This isn't a pocket, this isn't a neighborhood
losing power.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
This is so much of the whole country, all right.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Coming up the latest on what's going on between Ukraine
and Russia. A very significant sit down meeting that took
place sort of on the sidelines of the Pope's funeral
over the weekend. If you saw the images of President
Trump sitting down with Vlatimer's Lensky, both of them came
away with some pretty positive discussion, positive points about what
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that discussion was about. Also later in the show, Motivational Monday,
don't forget that's going to be if you're feeling a
little down in the dumps today Before the Sun comes out.
Mixtape Monday coming up, we'll be talking more about how
college athletes are being coached into being influencers. This is
the end of civilization as we know it.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
Hey, Gary, you might want to tone down the wearing
of the hats. Most men that always wear hats from
their youth to middle age are most likely to lose
their hair.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I feel like, at fifty two, I'm okay if anything
happens from with my hair from this point until my
untimely demise, and it will be untimely.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Well, you're set.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I mean, it doesn't seem like your wife's going to
leave you anytime soon, although I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I made her watch a movie last night that she
may hold out.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Gu's me stupid.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
She said she like thrillers and it's Viola Davis. How
could you go wrong with Viola Davis.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
That's true, that's true.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
She was badass in this movie.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Just watch your action on your own, you know. Did
Shannon hate it? No, she didn't love it.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
But it was going to tell you what.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
There were moments where we both laughed at how awful
the writing was.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, that's really these days it's so bad.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
What's the deal with that?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Is it that we're just getting older and we're we're
focused more.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Or what our expectations are high? She's an Academy Award
winning actress.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Right, find someone who could write some words for her.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Hey, just a little bit of a little writer's room action, maybe.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
We know anyway, that's fine. It was called G twenty.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
That's all that's I forgot that farmer needs a wife
or once a wife, that there was a new episode
I didn't get caught up on over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Oh you got something to do tonight? I think lucky you.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Russian President Vladimir Putin has announced a temporary ceasefire for
the war in Ukraine unilaterally. He said the ceasefire would
run from the morning of May eighth until May eleventh,
that would coincide with victory celebrations to mark the end
of World War Two. In response, the Foreign Minister in
Ukraine called for an immediate cease fire lasting at least
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thirty days. Now, all of this kind of comes on
the heels of the meeting over the weekend between President
Trump and President Zelenski of Ukraine. It was on the
side of the funeral fore Francis and there are a
couple different images the timeline. I still don't quite understand.
But you had care Starmer, the British PM. You had
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friends frances and Manuel Macron, and then Trump and Zelenski together,
the four of them having a conversation, and then a
picture of just Trump and the Lensky setting in two
chairs off by their own talking about something. The biggest meeting,
or the first meeting actually since that big blow up
they had in the Oval Office in February.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
I think the meeting went well.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
I will see what.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Happens over the next few days.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
We'll probably learn a lot. I was very disappointed that
missiles were flying by Russia, but that missiles were flying
very disappointing. We'll see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I don't know if he's gone, he said, reminded me
of one of our old bosses.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That's funny. Anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Dan Hoffman is a former CIA guy and he's studied
and has been well apprised of what's going on between
Ukraine and Russia, and said this is an opportunity for
the United States and Trump specifically to back up his
words when it comes to calling Vladimir Putin out for
his lying, for his cheating, for his leading US on
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or tapping US on, or whatever term the President used
over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
The way out, it looks like, is not going to
be to entice Vladimir Putin with economic deals or sanctions relief.
We need to now, I think show Vladimir Putin that
we can bring some pain to Russia, not just economic pain,
but I think we need to continue to arm Ukraine
with what they need to deter Putin from launching future
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strikes and stop the ongoing attacks.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
President Trump was also asked about.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
He was doing an interview with that. I again, I
don't know what kind of strong voice Trump has in
this fight yet. I mean, he was upset last week
and wrote Vladimir's Stop on a truth social post, said
that the meeting with Zelenski went well, and he's disappointed
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that these muscles, muscles, these missiles from Russia keep flying people.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
What's he going to do about it.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
People were making comparisons to Biden's don't.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yes, yeah, the one word admonition that has zero weight
behind me.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And it's not just the one word, it's the zero
weight exactly, like, well, what power do you really have?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
What power did Biden have? What power does Trump really have?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
And when you're talking about someone like Putin, I don't
know how you've come away from that conversation without not much.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, I mean, it's the equivalent of me getting in
a bar fight and then saying, yeah, you're lucky, You're lucky.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
My chick's here. I'd kick your ass your chick. Yeah,
you know what are you old?
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Now?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
You're lucky? My lady friend is here.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
What is it two thousand and one bringing chick back?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
No, No, probably last time I ever had it.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Well, I guess that works because you actually have a lady.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I do have a lady.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, she's like a real lady.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
She is a lady.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yes, because there's some women where you could say that
and they'd f somebody.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Up, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
A lady just like that?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
All right?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
When we come back, jen Z A couple stories that
caught my eye this morning about gen Z. Number one
it's that gen Z is finding religion.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Which I love.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
They say that it's kind of a blowback to the
isolation that they feel.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
They feel lonely.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
They're realizing it and they're reaching out towards religion, and
I think that's I think that's great with your chance,
I think that's great for all of us. Back.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
The other thing they're embracing are tramp stamps.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Oh, never mind.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
They say that they're empowering.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
They are not.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
They're making a comeback just like low rise genes.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
They're not.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
This is what me and your lady we're talking about
this morning, tramp stamps.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Spain's Prime minister says a problem in the European grid
caused that massive power outage that has struck Spain and Portugal,
parts of France as well. The cause is still being determined.
They're asked in the public to refrain from speculation. No
theory about the cause of outage has been discarded.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Whatever you do think about it.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Right two hour point earlier, yes, they said that they
have they there are no signs that point to terrorism,
but there are also no signs that point away from terrorism,
and I guess that's true. I mean, any sort of
panic in a power outage, this vast is not good.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
So you want to keep everybody calm.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
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Speaker 2 (18:43):
I heard your nose on the.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Squad.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
They never tell you who they pulled, how many people
they pull.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Were they all Democrats?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Were they all?
Speaker 5 (18:52):
You know? They weren't all Republicans?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Where was the poll taking?
Speaker 5 (18:55):
What city?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Okay, these poles are junk, They don't mean any Yeah,
United States? I agree?
Speaker 6 (19:05):
Yeah, that good.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I agree that polls are garbage.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
You know, we ran into somebody who is running for
office in California and the person was talking about how
Kamala Harris doesn't have a shot because of a recent
poll as governor in California, and I.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Said, who are they polling? Because that it is important
because when you look.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Around, Let's just take that that for example, you talk
to democrats. I talked to Democrats in California. They still
love Kamala Harris. They still love that she is the
face of the resistance, or at least someone who tried
to put up resistance to Trump. And she's a California person,
and she's the biggest name, and there's just no way
in hell that California is gonna to vote in a
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Republican governor.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Is certainly not this next time around.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Well, and it's important to point out when it comes
to a poll like the one that's being talked about
now that gives Trump low approval rating, it's the Washington Post,
ABC News and IPSOS that paid for this poll. It
was produced by Langer Research. As so all this stuff
is easily you can find. Every article that's posted about
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this poll should also have a link to the pole itself,
which is just a PDF print out basically of all
the questions how they're worded, which you can sometimes see
is you know, can alter the answers. There were two
four hundred and sixty four adults random national sample around
the country. The partisan divisions were thirty percent Democrat, thirty
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percent Republican, twenty nine percent independent.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
So all those all those questions, and.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I don't I don't pooh pooh the idea that polls
can be really skewed. But all that information is available
to find out when it comes to a poll. But
before you out, before you dismiss it outright, that stuff
is easily findable, as opposed to just saying polls are crap.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Gen z is finding religion, isn't that lovely? For the
last thirty years, God, I love this song. I won't
sing you should, but I want to.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
And raise.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Starting in the nineties, the share of Americans who identified
as Christian or any religion at all began to drop precipitously.
At the same time, those with no religious affiliation none
began to spike. They've been converting to other religions, they've
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been getting religion later in life. But they say the
trend is ending. Over the last five years, the share
of Americans who are nuns has stabilized roughly about thirty
percent because of one group, and it's the Zoomers. Shortly
sometime around after the pandemic, young Americans began to find
religious belief at higher rates than previous generations because they're
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looking for community because they didn't have community they were.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
That's why they're called zoomers.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
One of my girlfriends, her daughter's fourteen, and she said
she started dating this guy. This is dating. I don't
know what that means. But I started seeing this guy
and this was I don't know now a year ago.
She said, yeah, he's really religious. I said, what, that's interesting.
I'm thirteen, fourteen years old.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It's unusual, I think to find I wonder if they
don't make much mention of it here, but we have
many times the realization that I think a lot of
younger people are having about how sucked into phones and
technology they've been, and how there is is a desire
to do things on natural without their thought or camping
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rad dogging.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I'm never going to use that term, sorry, because you
make it dirty.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I do not not eating anything.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Say it with a smile on your face, and it
means something.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I say everything with a smile in my face. I'm
very smiling.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
But this desire to pull away from technology to see
what real relationships are, how do you build it?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
And I love that.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I mean, if the internet did one thing. If it
swung the pedulum the other way, then good for the internet,
because it is true. Real relationships make you feel good
as opposed to your phone relationship.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I do also think that there is there has been
a much clearer message the difference between say, religion and faith.
The religion part of it is the rules that you're
supposed to follow them.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
You know you have to do these things to get this.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Robutor turn big turn off as opposed to the faith
aspect of it, which is more of a hey, we're
all a broken people. We're human beings, and we make
stupid mistakes, sometimes out of greed, sometimes out of stupidity,
but that there is something better than that.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, moving towards the Gods there for you, as opposed
to do all these things like you're hit over the
head with growing up Catholic or else you don't get
God's love and it's just crazy to me. I think
you should focus on the positive. If you're trying to
push the God thing.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
It's a Michael Monk's Monday. When we come back, it is.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I love a Michael Monk's Monday.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
We back right after this.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
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on the iHeartRadio app. The conclave has been said it
will start on May seventh.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
We should really get into this.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I really think that we should get some skin in
the game when it comes to who the next pope
is going to be. I think we should narrow down
the field and we should make some friendly wagers, not
with money, but with our heart. The Vatican says that
the cardinals will have a little over a week to
(00:35):
discuss campaign get to know all the potential contenders. Remember
when we talked to Raymond Arroyo, a host of the
Arroyo Grande podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Who's covered popes for decades.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
He said that this last pope, Pope Francis, who just
died at the age of eighty eight, he wasn't much
for holding the house parties. He never really had the
cardinals over the way that prior popes had. So these
cardinals have a bit of time, need a bit of
time to get to know one another, to spend some
time together.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I wonder how much of this is also pr version
of they want to do sort of the informal polling
in these couple of days before they actually.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Take their f It's like a jury, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, you get into the jury room, you're like, let's
see where we're all at, and then we'll talk about
it and see where we're.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
At again and then make a make an actual vote. Yes,
I don't know. I don't know if it plays into
their thinking. Whoever they are, whoever the top people would
be there at the Vatican, do they need to come
out and have this thing decided within a couple of votes, right?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Do they need to do it within a day or two?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Or is it better to show that there is a
selection process that you know, everybody gets their say, they
go through different votes and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
And I don't know what they're thinking.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Would be Well, the average, I believe is four days
for the conclave, So I think if you pass for days,
then you start to have those questions. Is their consternation,
is there a conflict? What's going on? Why is it
taking so long? If it happens too quickly, I think
you're absolutely right. People start asking the questions of how
did it happen so quickly?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Are we going to have a Hung jury. Are we
gonna have a Hong kongclave?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Who's it better for if they come out quickly? Is
it the prosecution at the defense?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
One of the what I think was most interesting candidates
to be the next pope that came out over the
weekend as a guy who's considered to be pretty conservative,
especially compared to Francis. And his name is Cardinal Friedeline Ambongo.
He is the president of the Symposium of Episcopal Conferences
(02:42):
of Africa and Madagascar. This is the Archbishop of Kinshasa
in the DRC Democratic Republic of Congo, Congo. He apparently
got attention for leading African bishops in the unanimous rejection
of the Fiducia Suplicants, which was a I think I
(03:04):
mixed Italian and French. There a declaration that the Vatican
issued a couple of years ago that included guidelines on
the blessings of people in same sex relationships. Remember Pope
Francis famously said who is he to judge when it
came to people in same sex relationships who are seeking God?
This is a guy who is very conservative. Sixty five
(03:25):
years old, so I guess relatively young for a pope.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Papal candidate.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Known as a supporter of Orthodoxy, he defends priestly celibacy
the church's moral teachings. He's also known as a promoter
of social justice, a champion of the poor and the voiceless,
they like to say, and is pretty outspoken when it
comes to his criticism of the government.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
From DRC, he.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Would be interesting to have a pope come from Africa.
My money is on Peter, not your dog, but the
Archbishop of boot Past, Hungary, Peter Urdu.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
He's seventy two.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
He is.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Very orthodox, very orthodox Christian, yet does also have the
respect of liberals. He's on the conservative side, but not
so far is the pendulum swinging with him to be
as diametrically opposed as the last pope. But my early
(04:31):
bet is on Peter. I've got him at six to
one odds. I think the other one the other.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
If they were gonna if the cardinals decide that they're
going to stick with sort of the the more progressive
and you know, using that term knowingly that it's not
incredibly progressive, but a more progressive approach, they could go
with the Cardinal of the Philippines. He is also a
guy who has known as the Asian Francis because of
(05:01):
his attitudes towards caring for the poor, welcoming LGBTQ people
into the Catholics, divorced Catholics, remarried Catholics. He's been very
open minded about all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I keep hearing the term canon lawyer, which I had
never heard before. Obviously a lawyer of the church well
versed in canon law. A number of them are canon lawyers.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So, like you said, a week from tomorrow May seventh,
May seventh, the day we'll start with Mass at Saint
Peter's Basilica, they all head back over to the Sistine
Chapel to start their voting. And we know, of course
we're looking for white smoke. Black smoke means that they
voted and didn't pick somebody.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
To be They have burned the pizza and the.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Is that an Italian joke?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
No, I just I burned a pizza once in an
apartment and I remember thought, my girlfriend's why are you
voting for?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Boyfriend can out of his room and he said, the
house is smoking girls, The house.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Is smoking girls.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Wow, he was a little older. Oh he's dead. He died.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
What I know because you killed it What a twist.
You should never what a twist.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
They're dying on us now, all right.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
A very strange story out of Vancouver, Canada yesterday, but
also a strange story internationally. Powers out in some major
European country.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Outage and it means a lot for transportation in areas
where you can actually use public transportation.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It's wild.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
It's this thing where like you can get on a
train and it takes you to the airport from various
parts of the city.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Relatively clean, too wild.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
We use everything in here. I mean, let no crisis
go unused in America.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
In this case, this thirty year old was charged with
eight counts of second degree murder in this video before
a judge yesterday, just a few hours after he was arrested.
The reason it's eight counts of murder a second degree
versus eleven considering we have eleven deaths. The charges were
filed before those other three people had died, so there
will be more charges. Interestingly, investigators said they ruled out
(07:18):
terrorism as a motive. They said that this guy is
known by police Kai g Adam Low thirty years old,
because of a series of mental health issues that he
had had and contacts with police.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
As a result.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
The ages of those who were killed between five and
sixty five. About two dozen people injured, some of them critically,
when he sped down the street just after eight o'clock
again at the Lapoo Lapoo Day festival. So this other
international story is this huge power outage that hit both
Spain and Portugal parts of France. Energy authorities said there
(07:59):
was a disruption in the European grid and at this
point not immediately clear what caused the outage. Anytime something
like this happens, think back to the outage that affected
Heathrow Airport a couple of weeks ago, there is an assumption,
I believe that Vladimir Putin may have had something to
(08:20):
do with it, because of his desire to foment distrust
and to disrupt everyday life in Europe. At this point,
again they say there is no evidence that it was
a cyber attack, but the national energy supplier of the
nation of Portugal said the interruption was due to a
problem in the European electricity grid.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
There's no evidence that there was an attack, but is
there evidence.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
It wasn't correct. That's the way to keep it in mind.
The French electrical grid operator said that some of the
households in the Basque region of France did briefly lose electricity,
but they have been restored. The problem is outside of
ATM's banks, connecting to the internet has been a problem.
Phone networks in Spain and Portugal have been out and
(09:06):
they're asking people to avoid driving as much as possible
because of the traffic lights and road signs correct well.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Because the subways are out and this is how people
get to and from everywhere. Spain's national rail company works amazingly,
so people commuting either in and out of Madrid and
Valencia and all of that.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
It's all been cut off.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
So the subways, the rail all of it. The Portuguese
banks and schools closed. Matches for the Madrid Open tennis
tournament were suspended, all the hospitals in Spain. Many hospitals
in Spain forced to run on generators.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And the fact of the matter is this has been
going on for a while.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
It's been several hours so far.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
In Portugal's capital, they note that people are trying to
beat daylight. They're trying to get some stuff, supplies and
everything to have before nighttime comes. I don't know what
they're concerned. I mean, I don't know are they concerned
this is.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Gonna be days?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Well, they said it's six to ten hours.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Spanish power distributor red Electrica said restoring power fully to
the country and Portugal could take six to ten hours.
It is by mid afternoon there, so what is it
seven eight hours ahead of us. Voltage was progressively, they say,
being restored in the north, south and west of the peninsula.
(10:26):
So it's not fully back, but they're they're working to
get it back. Six to ten hours is a long time,
very long time, especially when you're looking at that kind
of abroad. This isn't a pocket, this isn't a neighborhood
losing power.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
This is so much of the whole country, all right.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Coming up the latest on what's going on between Ukraine
and Russia. A very significant sit down meeting that took
place sort of on the sidelines of the Pope's funeral
over the weekend. If you saw the images of President
Trump sitting down with Vlatimer's Lensky, both of them came
away with some pretty positive discussion, positive points about what
(11:07):
that discussion was about. Also later in the show, Motivational Monday,
don't forget that's going to be if you're feeling a
little down in the dumps today Before the Sun comes out.
Mixtape Monday coming up, we'll be talking more about how
college athletes are being coached into being influencers. This is
the end of civilization as we know it.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
Hey, Gary, you might want to tone down the wearing
of the hats. Most men that always wear hats from
their youth to middle age are most likely to lose
their hair.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I feel like, at fifty two, I'm okay if anything
happens from with my hair from this point until my
untimely demise, and it will be untimely.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Well, you're set.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I mean, it doesn't seem like your wife's going to
leave you anytime soon, although I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I made her watch a movie last night that she
may hold out.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Gu's me stupid.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
She said she like thrillers and it's Viola Davis. How
could you go wrong with Viola Davis.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
That's true, that's true.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
She was badass in this movie.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Just watch your action on your own, you know. Did
Shannon hate it? No, she didn't love it.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
But it was going to tell you what.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
There were moments where we both laughed at how awful
the writing was.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, that's really these days it's so bad.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
What's the deal with that?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Is it that we're just getting older and we're we're
focused more.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Or what our expectations are high? She's an Academy Award
winning actress.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Right, find someone who could write some words for her.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Hey, just a little bit of a little writer's room action, maybe.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
We know anyway, that's fine. It was called G twenty.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
That's all that's I forgot that farmer needs a wife
or once a wife, that there was a new episode
I didn't get caught up on over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Oh you got something to do tonight? I think lucky you.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Russian President Vladimir Putin has announced a temporary ceasefire for
the war in Ukraine unilaterally. He said the ceasefire would
run from the morning of May eighth until May eleventh,
that would coincide with victory celebrations to mark the end
of World War Two. In response, the Foreign Minister in
Ukraine called for an immediate cease fire lasting at least
(13:27):
thirty days. Now, all of this kind of comes on
the heels of the meeting over the weekend between President
Trump and President Zelenski of Ukraine. It was on the
side of the funeral fore Francis and there are a
couple different images the timeline. I still don't quite understand.
But you had care Starmer, the British PM. You had
(13:50):
friends frances and Manuel Macron, and then Trump and Zelenski together,
the four of them having a conversation, and then a
picture of just Trump and the Lensky setting in two
chairs off by their own talking about something. The biggest meeting,
or the first meeting actually since that big blow up
they had in the Oval Office in February.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
I think the meeting went well.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
I will see what.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Happens over the next few days.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
We'll probably learn a lot. I was very disappointed that
missiles were flying by Russia, but that missiles were flying
very disappointing. We'll see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I don't know if he's gone, he said, reminded me
of one of our old bosses.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That's funny. Anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Dan Hoffman is a former CIA guy and he's studied
and has been well apprised of what's going on between
Ukraine and Russia, and said this is an opportunity for
the United States and Trump specifically to back up his
words when it comes to calling Vladimir Putin out for
his lying, for his cheating, for his leading US on
(14:58):
or tapping US on, or whatever term the President used
over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
The way out, it looks like, is not going to
be to entice Vladimir Putin with economic deals or sanctions relief.
We need to now, I think show Vladimir Putin that
we can bring some pain to Russia, not just economic pain,
but I think we need to continue to arm Ukraine
with what they need to deter Putin from launching future
(15:22):
strikes and stop the ongoing attacks.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
President Trump was also asked about.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
He was doing an interview with that. I again, I
don't know what kind of strong voice Trump has in
this fight yet. I mean, he was upset last week
and wrote Vladimir's Stop on a truth social post, said
that the meeting with Zelenski went well, and he's disappointed
(15:49):
that these muscles, muscles, these missiles from Russia keep flying people.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
What's he going to do about it.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
People were making comparisons to Biden's don't.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yes, yeah, the one word admonition that has zero weight
behind me.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And it's not just the one word, it's the zero
weight exactly, like, well, what power do you really have?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
What power did Biden have? What power does Trump really have?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
And when you're talking about someone like Putin, I don't
know how you've come away from that conversation without not much.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, I mean, it's the equivalent of me getting in
a bar fight and then saying, yeah, you're lucky, You're lucky.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
My chick's here. I'd kick your ass your chick. Yeah,
you know what are you old?
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Now?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
You're lucky? My lady friend is here.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
What is it two thousand and one bringing chick back?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
No, No, probably last time I ever had it.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Well, I guess that works because you actually have a lady.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I do have a lady.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, she's like a real lady.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
She is a lady.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yes, because there's some women where you could say that
and they'd f somebody.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Up, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
A lady just like that?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
All right?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
When we come back, jen Z A couple stories that
caught my eye this morning about gen Z. Number one
it's that gen Z is finding religion.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Which I love.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
They say that it's kind of a blowback to the
isolation that they feel.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
They feel lonely.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
They're realizing it and they're reaching out towards religion, and
I think that's I think that's great with your chance,
I think that's great for all of us. Back.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
The other thing they're embracing are tramp stamps.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Oh, never mind.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
They say that they're empowering.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
They are not.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
They're making a comeback just like low rise genes.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
They're not.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
This is what me and your lady we're talking about
this morning, tramp stamps.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Spain's Prime minister says a problem in the European grid
caused that massive power outage that has struck Spain and Portugal,
parts of France as well. The cause is still being determined.
They're asked in the public to refrain from speculation. No
theory about the cause of outage has been discarded.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Whatever you do think about it.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Right two hour point earlier, yes, they said that they
have they there are no signs that point to terrorism,
but there are also no signs that point away from terrorism,
and I guess that's true. I mean, any sort of
panic in a power outage, this vast is not good.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
So you want to keep everybody calm.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
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Speaker 2 (18:43):
I heard your nose on the.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Squad.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
They never tell you who they pulled, how many people
they pull.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Were they all Democrats?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Were they all?
Speaker 5 (18:52):
You know? They weren't all Republicans?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Where was the poll taking?
Speaker 5 (18:55):
What city?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Okay, these poles are junk, They don't mean any Yeah,
United States? I agree?
Speaker 6 (19:05):
Yeah, that good.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I agree that polls are garbage.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
You know, we ran into somebody who is running for
office in California and the person was talking about how
Kamala Harris doesn't have a shot because of a recent
poll as governor in California, and I.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Said, who are they polling? Because that it is important
because when you look.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Around, Let's just take that that for example, you talk
to democrats. I talked to Democrats in California. They still
love Kamala Harris. They still love that she is the
face of the resistance, or at least someone who tried
to put up resistance to Trump. And she's a California person,
and she's the biggest name, and there's just no way
in hell that California is gonna to vote in a
(19:52):
Republican governor.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Is certainly not this next time around.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Well, and it's important to point out when it comes
to a poll like the one that's being talked about
now that gives Trump low approval rating, it's the Washington Post,
ABC News and IPSOS that paid for this poll. It
was produced by Langer Research. As so all this stuff
is easily you can find. Every article that's posted about
(20:16):
this poll should also have a link to the pole itself,
which is just a PDF print out basically of all
the questions how they're worded, which you can sometimes see
is you know, can alter the answers. There were two
four hundred and sixty four adults random national sample around
the country. The partisan divisions were thirty percent Democrat, thirty
(20:39):
percent Republican, twenty nine percent independent.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
So all those all those questions, and.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I don't I don't pooh pooh the idea that polls
can be really skewed. But all that information is available
to find out when it comes to a poll. But
before you out, before you dismiss it outright, that stuff
is easily findable, as opposed to just saying polls are crap.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Gen z is finding religion, isn't that lovely? For the
last thirty years, God, I love this song. I won't
sing you should, but I want to.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
And raise.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Starting in the nineties, the share of Americans who identified
as Christian or any religion at all began to drop precipitously.
At the same time, those with no religious affiliation none
began to spike. They've been converting to other religions, they've
(21:57):
been getting religion later in life. But they say the
trend is ending. Over the last five years, the share
of Americans who are nuns has stabilized roughly about thirty
percent because of one group, and it's the Zoomers. Shortly
sometime around after the pandemic, young Americans began to find
religious belief at higher rates than previous generations because they're
(22:20):
looking for community because they didn't have community they were.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
That's why they're called zoomers.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
One of my girlfriends, her daughter's fourteen, and she said
she started dating this guy. This is dating. I don't
know what that means. But I started seeing this guy
and this was I don't know now a year ago.
She said, yeah, he's really religious. I said, what, that's interesting.
I'm thirteen, fourteen years old.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It's unusual, I think to find I wonder if they
don't make much mention of it here, but we have
many times the realization that I think a lot of
younger people are having about how sucked into phones and
technology they've been, and how there is is a desire
to do things on natural without their thought or camping
(23:06):
rad dogging.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I'm never going to use that term, sorry, because you
make it dirty.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I do not not eating anything.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Say it with a smile on your face, and it
means something.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I say everything with a smile in my face. I'm
very smiling.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
But this desire to pull away from technology to see
what real relationships are, how do you build it?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
And I love that.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I mean, if the internet did one thing. If it
swung the pedulum the other way, then good for the internet,
because it is true. Real relationships make you feel good
as opposed to your phone relationship.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I do also think that there is there has been
a much clearer message the difference between say, religion and faith.
The religion part of it is the rules that you're
supposed to follow them.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
You know you have to do these things to get this.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Robutor turn big turn off as opposed to the faith
aspect of it, which is more of a hey, we're
all a broken people. We're human beings, and we make
stupid mistakes, sometimes out of greed, sometimes out of stupidity,
but that there is something better than that.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, moving towards the Gods there for you, as opposed
to do all these things like you're hit over the
head with growing up Catholic or else you don't get
God's love and it's just crazy to me. I think
you should focus on the positive. If you're trying to
push the God thing.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
It's a Michael Monk's Monday. When we come back, it is.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I love a Michael Monk's Monday.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
We back right after this.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
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