September 2, 2025 • 32 mins
Turpin Attorneys Back at It defending. Chagas disease, long considered only a threat abroad, is established in California & Southern U.S. Foster City Geese. #TITS – Hazmat called in for mystery illness on flight / Southwest cockpit barriers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
App Channel five. Is suggesting that the woman that is
in that Ford Bronco that's now surrounded by three of
the bear cat armored carried three bear cats.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
To a surrounded naked woman in Brentwood.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm kind of sure that when the call went out Brentwood, Brentwood,
naked woman in a car, they're like, wait, guys, we're
not using the bear cat.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Let's go get the bear cat. Yeah, you and a
clipboard can handle this.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We don't need three bear cats and four agencies.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Maybe she's a maybe she's a looker.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
So the three bear cats are up right up against
the Ford Bronco. It's on south to Paul that are
just east of the freeway there right at Montana, one
of those insection you.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Knew over priced Broncos.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yes, and there is one officer out of the top
of one of the bearcats, the one that's in the
front of the vehicles.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Like a gross over reaction. Was it a slow police
activity weekend?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
So anyway, that's been going on for a couple of
hours and if it resolves itself, or if she's really naked,
we'll let you know.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Defense attorneys, I have asked them in the past when
I encounter them in the wild, how do you sleep
like when you defend people that you know have done it?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I've asked that question on this show.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Do you get I know that there are some defense
attorneys who say, on a very high level they're you know,
they're defending the rights of the people, of the true believers. Yeah,
there are people really really are honest.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
About they believe everyone has a right to a defense.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And not that they not that they claim that they're
trying to rehabilitate somebody or make it excuses for somebody's behavior,
but that they do everybody deserves to have that defense.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yes, they operate on that plane. They don't let their
mind go to this person did it, and I'm defending them.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I want them back out on the street.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
It's just I believe in the right that everyone gets
a defense above all, right, and that I think is
true for public defenders. When you're raking in millions of
dollars and getting notoriety, I don't think you're operating on
that plane.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I think you're operating on the plane.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
If I want to get rich and I want to
take all the dirt bags money, you're going.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
To use that philosophy, yes, but you're also going to
be getting wreckshit.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
At the same time, two attorneys who made headlines defending
the Turpen parents. Remember the Turpin parents abuse twelve of
their thirteen children, didn't let them out of the house.
One of the teenage girls had to break out of
the house. These kids were all malnourished.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It was awful.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
The same lawyers that defended the Turpin parents are now
defending the I was gonna say a bad word, the
two people who killed their baby and lied about it.
These are the people who killed their seven month old son. Recently.
The mother said she went to the Big five parking lot.
She was changing the baby. Somebody shows up behind her,
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says oh lah, and takes the baby and says that
the baby is missing, has been abducted, and that was
all a lie. Turns out, this baby, as we found
out last week, had been abused for quite some time,
an habitual abuse to this baby. Oh and by the way,
dad was out on probation that he violated for putting
another baby, a baby girl that time in the hospital.
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So now these attorneys have no doubt taken up the
mantle of a whole parents who abused children.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
It's a strange, strange mantle, a strange mantle to Carrie,
and I mean to go back to the original discussion
of defense attorneys who say that they are doing it
because for the for the high Falluton reason that everybody
deserves a defense, and they do. That's a very basic
principle of American society is that regardless of how awful
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your behavior, you do deserve to have legal defense represent you.
In this case, Alison Lowe and David March are from
the Riverside County DA's Public Defender's office sorry representative represented
David Turpin and Allison and Paul Atte Garthwaite are now
heading Jake Harrow's defense team. And then attorney Jeff Moore
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from law offices there in Riverside represented Louise Turpin and
Jeff Moore is also representing Rebecca Harrow. They've all been
public defenders or defense attorneys for a couple decades.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
This is not new to them.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I just have this gut feeling that you know, like
we said, there are some people who honestly do this
because they honestly believe in the very important.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Rights too. Are both public defenders.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Though, because I just looked up, I thought that Pollick
garth Rate was a private attorney. But it looks like
Alison Low, who's a public defender who represented the Turpins,
also a public defender. So from the public defender's office,
this is this woman is somebody who has experienced defending
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people who hurt their children.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
So this is not in it for the money, these
two people.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Okay, but there's got to be a point where as
a defense attorney, you say, there are cases I will
not take even if you believe if.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
You're a public defender, I mean that's that is really
the office that believes every single person, no matter how
awful and depraved you are, deserves a defense, and you
know that going into it.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
It's the point.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Then there are lifers in the public defender's office who
will stick with it for their career, but there are
others who go to the private practice.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Right yeah, I mean, if you're good at what you
do and you want to make money, you leave the
public defender's office and you go into private practice. You
get your experience in the public Defender's office, and then
you take that and you go make some money. In
this case, it seems like the powers that be in
the Public Defender's office says, who do we have with
experience when it comes to parents who harm their children?
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And they went back to the Turpin case to find
that lawyer. So I'm going to back off the lawyers
in this situation. I thought that they were private attorneys.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
They are not.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
This was a supervisor decision. This was on the supervisory
level of who is going to take this case in
the public Defender's office And unfortunately there they've got the
experience of the Turpins under their belt. But the prosecutor's
office is responding with their best. I don't know this person,
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but District Attorney Brandon Smith has tried over one hundred
cases twenty years of the DA's office, and they say
he is their best. And you don't, with all due respect,
you don't need your best to put these two away.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
You do not need your best. It's a good point,
all right.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
You were and a clipboard could handle the naked lady
of Brentwood and this case.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
By morning and then move over there in the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
All right, Chaugus is back, Shaugus.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
What is it? It's a disease.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Oh, this is the one that's gonna kill all of us.
And it's in Griffith Park. You've never heard of it's
why do they call it the kissing disease?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I'll tell you when we come back.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
We're telling you about this standoff that ended in Wells Chase.
I should say that ended in a standoff. It's over
in West la just east of the four or five
on south to Pulvta, right at Supulvita in Montana.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
That's why there are helicopters there.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
If you're on the freeway, you probably don't see much
of it because it's down below you. But there's a
woman in a newer Ford Bronco that apparently has decided
that clothing was too restrictive. So there's a naked lady
inside the Ford Bronco. They have broken a couple of windows,
I believe, to try to get to talk to her
to get her out of there safely. It started raining. Also,
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there's this one specific cell of rain that has rolled
through that area, so it's not going to last for
very long time.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
The labor day can be wild weekend. You know, you've
got compounding interest that catches up with you. I don't
know if that makes sense, but you've got three days
of nakedity. It's hard to roll into a Tuesday not
naked sometimes, right.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Do you think that she came back?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Was like on the fruit she got into the commute
and then looked down and was like, oh, oh no, I.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Don't think she got into the commute as you say.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I don't think there was.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I don't think there was a commute that she was
going to get into this morning. You don't find yourself
naked and Brentwood needing to go to work most of
the time.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I never have, that's for sure. Now. I know every
time you've been there, you've been taken care of.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
There is a top of the hour the president is
expected to make an oval office announcement. These would be
the first public remarks in front of reporters since he
held the three hour and seventeen minute cabinet meeting that
was open to everybody. The unusually very public president has
not been very public for the last few days. That
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sparked a bunch of rampant online rumors about whether or
not he's alive, which is ridiculous, ridiculous. The White House
and the Pentagon do say that today's announcement is defense
related and that there is an expectation it's about the
US Space Force headquarters that he wants to put him
in Alabama.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
All right, shagas, guys. This is a disease that's terrifying.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Why it lies dormant for years and it only makes
itself known when the victim keels over via a heart attack,
stroke or death.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
That sounds like fun.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
This is one of the most insidious diseases you've ever
heard of, and it's here. It's here in Los Angeles
and twenty nine other states across the United States. It
kills more people in Latin America than malariga each year,
which is a situation. Apparently I don't know about malaria,
and it's it's death toll all the time in Latin America.
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But researchers think roughly three hundred thousand people here in
this country currently have it but have no clue, and
it's a it's just a matter of time until they
keel over from heart attack, stroke or death from the shagas.
It's caused by a parasite, Typanasama Cruisie, lives in the
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blood sucking insect called the kissing bug. Are these the
bugs that bite me? And they're not mosquitoes? You know?
It happens all the time where you think you have
a mosquito bite. Your blood has certainly been sucked, but
it's not. It doesn't give you the telltale sign of
the mosquito bite, or there's a bump and it disappears.
Is that what's been biting me for years? And I
just don't know?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Fleas? Maybe? No, I don't have fleas, but thank you
for your concern. I do. No, I get some. In fact,
last night I had a couple around my ankle.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, and for the first forty five minutes or there's
about I don't know when they I got bit obviously,
for there's about a forty five minute window whi's the
most annoying feeling and that it goes.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Around O itchy and that goes Yeah, because a mosquito
bite will last for a few.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
That's what I'm wondering. Is that a shagus? Doubt it?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Doubt it research has shown that in some places like
Griffith Park, about a third of all of these kissing
bugs harbor the shagas disease parasite.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
So there you go. That's why it's called the kissing disease.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
There's a lot of pressure to label this thing an endemic,
meaning consistently present, because nobody knows about it, and they
want a campaign to let people know what the hell
are you supposed to do?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Not go outside, they said.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Some epidemiologists and researchers have said that they hope that
this will bring awareness, education dialogue, because they said it's
carried a stigma that shagas is falsely associated with poor
rural migrants from bug infected homes in tropical nations. But
for example, Salvador Ornandez, a cardiologist at Kaiser in northern California,
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said we had a kid from the Hollywood Hills get it,
and that the patient had not traveled out of the
country and probably got it not in the poor rural
migrant bug infected home, but the leafy, affluent neighborhood where
kissing bugs are prevalent.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
So it lies dormant until it just kills you with
stuff that kills most people heart attack stroke, right, they say,
the proteins in the bugs saliva cause can cause acute
reactions like swollen limbs and eyes and anaphylaxis, but it's
those longer term or chronic effects that cause the most harm.
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It's indistinct pile the symptoms from other forms of cardiac
and organ damage. So it's likely people are showing up
to their doctor's offices with arrhythmia or a swollen esophagus
and they're not even screened for this thing.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Well, can you take something?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I'm looking Anti anti parasitic medications can be used to
stop from progressing, but you still have it. Shaugus apparently,
is also prevalent in dogs that show very similar clinical
signs to what you would have heart failure or a arrhythmia,
et cetera, And a lot of people don't know it
until they try to go give blood.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Ah, the blood is going to.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Be tested and if it shows up, that's that might
be the first time that you even realize.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
You had it.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Right, I wonder if you have it, I don't how
do you know? You wouldn't know, That's a great question.
You wouldn't know because the cute symptoms don't always happen.
They say they can't cute or acute A cute You
definitely don't have cute.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Sometimes sparkle in my eye? Okay, little wiggle to my walk, Okay,
all right.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
She said the dogs often acquire the disease by eating
the bugs, which give a much higher dose of the
parasite than if a few bug poops, then a few
bugs poops in a cut.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
I'm going to read that all over again. Wait what.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Le Saunders is? It is a vet cardiologist at Texas
A and M. And she says dogs often acquire the
disease by eating the bugs, which give a much higher
dose of the parasite than a few bug poops in
a cut.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Wow that I've never heard that a correct couple of
dog poops in a cut.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Dog poops in a cut? All right, that's it, all right,
that's it. Yeah, that's it. From bugs to geese.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Oh I like this first of all. Well, I'll get
into it. I have a whole thing about the geese. Okay, right,
not really, I just I just enjoy geese. Don't you
enjoy geese?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Monday is September twenty second. I tear there was a
there was a point in my life there were geese
in my neighborhood. There was one house that had geese,
and you'd walk by the fence and those little geese
had stick their necks out and they'd nip at you.
And I'm five six. That's terrifying.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
What was scarier the geese or the sunflowers? You know that.
Now you mention it, there may be a connection. Ah,
we're doing real work here today. Good breakthrough.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI.
A six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Swamp watch comes along at the top of the hour.
We'll take you to Washington, d C. President Trump is
expected to hold a news conference just about eleven o'clock.
There are a lot of questions about where he's been
the last couple of days, but this probably doesn't have
anything to do with that. It is more about space.
I almost said space wars, space force. Although there was
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also questions yesterday about something being thrown out of one
of the windows that the White House video showed what
appeared to be somebody throwing a black bag of something
out of one of the upper windows. Of course, that
has sparked more speculation about what's going on in there
if there.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Was something nefarious with the president's health, of the president's pulse,
do you really think it would result in a black
bag being thrown out of one of the windows of
the White House.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
That's a great question. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
A House committee is planning to meet today with ten
people who have accused Jeffrey Epstein of sex trafficking. They
said that they want to put more pressure on the
White House and the administration to come forward with information
about the Epstein files. The House cannot compel the Justice
Department to release documents, but if they do, vote obviously
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vote in favor would have I guess put a spotlight
on the rift between the President and some of his
otherwise supporters in Congress that are calling for these files
to be lego.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Let out geese, honk.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
The Canada geese produce hundreds of pounds of droppings a day.
This is screwing up bacteria levels in local lagoons. It's
scaring the children. I'm sorry the droppings are scaring the children.
When you were a child, scared of geese of your neighbor,
or was it the droppings that scared you, It was
the fact that they.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Were as tall as you are going to bite me.
They were going to eat you.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, but up in northern California, Foster City is going
to spend four hundred thousand dollars to get rid of them.
They say there's up to four hundred geese in the
roughly thirty three thousand person community at a given time.
They have done several experiments with less expensive options, and
now they're going to chase them away with drones shaped
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like falcons. They're going to use border collies to mimic
predators remote controlled devices that can float in water. How
much fun. If you're on the contract end of this pursuit,
Loster City calls you up and says, hello, drone company
filled with little boys who like to play with toys.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Well, you chase the geese away and they're like, oh, yeah, problem.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Or if you own a border Collie and they were like, yeah,
we want your dog to chase the geese.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yes please. I had a Border Collie, Sparky. Sparky what
I really loved this?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yeah I didn't know that. Yeah, pictures she died. Well,
I figured you hadn't talked about her in ten years
years ago. Figured, yeah, Sparky was long dead. I didn't
know that about you. I don't know you like dogs
and then the remote control devices.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I just don't like the dogs that you know, you
pay for. I like dirty, cheap dogs that nobody wants.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, this is there was a problem with this when
I lived in Seattle. The gas Works Park area, you know,
that is right at the top end of Lake Union.
So it was overrun by geese. Now it's overrun by
homeless people, but it was overrun by geese for a
long time, and it just it made it unpleasant. All
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of the goose crap and all that sort of stuff.
It was awful. And they had these discussions very similar
to what Foster City is going through. Okay, what do
you do? Do you just call the geese? Did you
literally kill them and haul them away? And if you
do so, how do you do that? Do you gather
them all up into a truck and then take them
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to a place where you gas geese?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I don't know, or do you shoot? Ask them That's.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
What they wanted to do, because they were trying to
find humane ways to put down geese as opposed to shooting.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Can you just relocate that chopping their.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Heads off or find some way because that's not where
would you relocate.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
To a place where geese are free to be? They
would come back.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
That was the concern, is that you could take them
sixty miles away, the geese would come back to the
place that they liked to poop in. Now, there was
one plan that got as close as anything where they
were going to gather the geese. They were going to
cull them. They were going to kill them by gassing
them and then butcher them and serve the meat in
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homeless shelters in and around Seattle.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
That is the worst plan I've ever heard that did
not go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
How did that get out of the first room it
was mentioned in?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
The other thing though, is they're talking about that how
do you do this in a humane way?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Right?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
It is a nuisance.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I don't know if they're necessarily causing health issues yet,
but that much goose dung could probably be an issue,
especially if the bacteria levels in the water systems get
too high. But one of the options they said is
egg addling. So they don't want to do anything violent
to the geese, but they'll abort the eggs. You cote
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them with oil and that prevents them from developing. They've
done that before and it didn't work. They've put fences
up around the parks. It doesn't work, because you know why,
geese can fly, among other things. None of that has worked,
and now they have to figure out what their appetite
is for goose massacres in order to keep their foster
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city as pleasant as possible.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Let's briefly go back to your childhood. Can we have
some childhood music of young Gary. He's five years old.
There is a neighbor who has aggressive geese and or
tall sunflowers. Elm or give me this computer, Young Gary,
Young Gary, childhood, Young Gary.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I was aware of the sure which age range you
were looking at point?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Do you think the booty came on your radar? Probably
later eleven eleven? Yeah, I would say so.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah. Nikki Sarno. Nikki Sarna was the one. Huh. I'm
just not that I remembered.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I'm just saying that's a name from somebody that I
knew in seventh grade.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Okay, I like that, you appreciate it an ass in
seventh grade anyway. So younger, you're five, You've got a
neighbor with aggressive geese and tall sunflowers.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
It was the fact that both things were your height
and were a little flowers were much higher. They were
much higher.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, no, the goose was. It was a red picket fence,
not white. It was a red picket fence around this house.
And they always had what I assumed were well kept flowers.
They're probably weeds now they think about it, because they
literally let geese run around in their front yard.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
But if you got too close to that fence, the
goose would would stick his head between the little pickets
of the fence and come after you.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Was there just the one gooser? They don't know, but
there was one. There was at least one that was aggressive.
I mean, if there were others in there, they weren't aggressive.
But this one maybe he just wanted to say hello.
That's not what he was doing, and he was making
the hank noise.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Well did you reach out to touch him? Of course
I did. I was five. Yeah, what else do you do?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
And so anyway, every other goose up to that point
in my life had been a good goose and been happy.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
The geese I read about in books.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
You could walk out, you could carry it, lay a
golden egg.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
The mother moose or the mother goose. They all seemed placid. Yeah,
they all seemed nice. They didn't seem aggressive. You didn't
know about the angry goose.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
And maybe you're just angry because he was the way
he was represented in books, like he wasn't given the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
To think a five year old Gary like walking up
to this goose thinking it's going to be like a
goose in the nursery rhyme and that wasn't.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
And having his dreams shattered when he was five. That's
fun to think about.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Well, I mean, it wasn't a dream of yours.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I'd like to have a I'd like to have a
positive image of things. I don't want to have it right,
that's true, pulled out from under me.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I'm five.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
But the fact that the visual that I have of
you just being unaware of that and walking towards the
goose at five with all the hope that this is
a good goose is sweet.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Something's happening in that standoff because Channel eleven.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
No, that's rain on the lens.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
That's blurd.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Oh what is what? And what did we see? Did
you see her naked? Tell me in the back of
the window, kind of crawling out and then like it
was like full back and then like before you could
really see the front. It was like dams Blige. What
are we working with here? She looked good. I don't know.
I couldn't tell. It was there's a dog in the car.
A dog in the car. That a blonde. It's a blonde.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, yeah, is exactly what you visualized.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Huh oh boy, they're being very careful. Yeah, Sharonay and
xanax Man.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
That so wild ride on a Tuesday morning, on a
Tuesday hot. Damn, Brentwood. You brought it today, naked. Appreciate it?
All right, we appreciate you. It's a naked Tuesday there
in Brentwood. So we'll come back and we'll do a
good terror in the skies, shall we. What a great
video that says she's in some sort of white sheet
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being led away and still being a problem. She's a yapper.
This lady will not shut the f up. Oh my god,
she of course she does.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
She probably is.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
At one point said don't you know who I am?
Speaker 4 (25:37):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Casting Donald Trump in this ad campaign the face of
the high stakes special election. He's released two ads today
on social media, two of at least nine spots he's
going to release this week.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
It's a shock in awe approach.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
According to a senior Newsome strategist, it's not your grandmother's
media campaign where where you do one woodworking ad, he says,
and put it across all platforms. We're living in a
very different media environment. I hate this guy on paper.
Sean klegg Is his name? Is he the one shock
(26:26):
in awe approach from a Gavin Newsom redistricting ad campaign?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Has he get out of here?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Is he the one who's been driving the whole Gavenusom
impersonating Trump on social media?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I'm beginning to think, so, let me see what this
guy looks like. I bet he's gonna have a punchable face.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
That would be the third reference to a punchable face
that you've mentioned today. Are you going through something that
you need to exert, some sort of physical aggression, you
need to get it out of your system.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Maybe I'm trying to.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Think about how cool it is that I get to
fly to Brazil today and then sit in an airport
hotel for two days.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
And then, uh, you know, have.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
A game that's very difficult being played before my very eyes,
and then sit in a plane ride for fourteen hours
back in a span of three days. I'm trying to
think of it as an adventure and this is so
cool and I haven't gotten there yet. So these are
like the I pulled up this guy's picture. I don't
want to punch him in the face. Okay, not offhand. Well,
(27:33):
you would want to punch somebody if you were on
this flight. It's time for terror in this guy.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
No no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Fike is on and I are. You're the day off.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Roger, get off my plane.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Roderick Rodgers, let's our vector.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Victor is enough.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I haven't had it with these mulkey pipe snakes on
this money.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
It's Gary and Shannon's terror in the sky.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
On KFI, a British.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Airways flight devolved into suer pandemonium. The passengers and crew
started getting sick. Definitely a flight from hell, said Melanie
Wells while recounting this ill fated trip, which was a
flight from London to Egypt. The East Sussex native and
her nineteen year old daughter planned to take off on
(28:23):
this all excl all inclusive vacation.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
All exclusive, that'd be stupid on the.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Red Sea to help booster spirits, she said, I hadn't
been away for ages. It was definitely much needed. But
when we boarded, the temperature was so extreme I started
to feel unwell. It was supersonically hot, which is not
a thing. I ended up getting a really bad headache.
She initially attributed the symptoms to the heat until she
noticed she wasn't the only one feeling green around the gills.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
We had a flight like this. It was just mentioned
to me.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Where was I Anyway, it was years ago, and it
was the Chargers and we're playing in Arizona and it
was in all guest and believe it was a preseason
game obviously, and it was one hundred and twenty degrees.
For some reason, the air wasn't working on the plane
LA to Phoenix end of August. People were disrobing, people
(29:14):
were in states of undress. We call it the Kuwait
flight because it was insufferable. I mean, luckily it was quick,
it was an hour, but I mean when you're on
a plane like that, and if you're somebody who can't
take the heat, you love the heat, you do well,
I get heat sick sometimes. It's been a few times
in my life, but it happens where I get nauseous
(29:36):
in the whole bit, if I get overheated, and I
think a lot of people feel that way, and it
can lead to totally because.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
You have no you know, when you're on a plane,
you have no power, you have no control.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Melanie went on to say, about an hour and a
half in the air, crew members suddenly began running down
the aisle backwards and forwards. I didn't know what was
going on. There was only one mom who was eyes
rolled back in her head. Yeah, the crew looking after
them at actually collapse.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Especially if you're dehydrated going into that situation. Total of
six people got sick.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Melanie said she felt nauseous, had a headache, but her
symptoms were caused what she says was noxious fumes on board.
They did make an emergency landing in venice. Ambulances, fire
engines surrounded the plane. Emergency crews wearing hazmat suits and
breathing apparatus i apparati, scrambled aboard and began administering tests
(30:28):
to the affected crew. Melanie said, I was absolutely terrified.
I was thinking, we have all been inhaling toxic fumes.
At no point did the captain give us any information,
said another terrified passenger. After an eight hour delay, they
returned to London and then took off and went back
(30:50):
to Egypt.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
The next morning.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I was telling you off the air, your British accent
reminded me of it because it's so peaceful and calm
and makes everything nice. My husband listens to British news
in the morning. Sounds so much better coming from the accent.
All the bad news, is.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
It America news with a British accent or is it
like news here?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, it's news here. It is BBC News, I believe,
But they do new news from America. I saw that
the New War of the Roses, the Roses and uh Man.
I had a real problem with it because it's two
Brits and the Brits. The thing with Michael Douglas and
Kathleen Turner, they were damn sexy and they were hot,
and they were crazy. Brits they don't carry that amount
(31:26):
of crazy with them. They're just not a crazy people.
You can't get to the level of crazy of flying
off chandeliers when you're British.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
It's just a much more demure people.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
You don't.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
They are a demure people, emotionally demure. There's no way
you can take two Brits and put them in that
role as good as those both those actors were. America
brings with it its own brand of effing crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, they would never make basic instinct with British people.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Exactly. Case in point, thank you put the exclamation point
on my review.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Tie it up. Hit the thing, Elmer, we ended hit It,
Hit It. You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,
and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio Lab
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
App Channel five. Is suggesting that the woman that is
in that Ford Bronco that's now surrounded by three of
the bear cat armored carried three bear cats.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
To a surrounded naked woman in Brentwood.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm kind of sure that when the call went out Brentwood, Brentwood,
naked woman in a car, they're like, wait, guys, we're
not using the bear cat.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Let's go get the bear cat. Yeah, you and a
clipboard can handle this.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We don't need three bear cats and four agencies.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Maybe she's a maybe she's a looker.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
So the three bear cats are up right up against
the Ford Bronco. It's on south to Paul that are
just east of the freeway there right at Montana, one
of those insection you.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Knew over priced Broncos.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yes, and there is one officer out of the top
of one of the bearcats, the one that's in the
front of the vehicles.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Like a gross over reaction. Was it a slow police
activity weekend?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
So anyway, that's been going on for a couple of
hours and if it resolves itself, or if she's really naked,
we'll let you know.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Defense attorneys, I have asked them in the past when
I encounter them in the wild, how do you sleep
like when you defend people that you know have done it?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I've asked that question on this show.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Do you get I know that there are some defense
attorneys who say, on a very high level they're you know,
they're defending the rights of the people, of the true believers. Yeah,
there are people really really are honest.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
About they believe everyone has a right to a defense.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And not that they not that they claim that they're
trying to rehabilitate somebody or make it excuses for somebody's behavior,
but that they do everybody deserves to have that defense.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yes, they operate on that plane. They don't let their
mind go to this person did it, and I'm defending them.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I want them back out on the street.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
It's just I believe in the right that everyone gets
a defense above all, right, and that I think is
true for public defenders. When you're raking in millions of
dollars and getting notoriety, I don't think you're operating on
that plane.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I think you're operating on the plane.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
If I want to get rich and I want to
take all the dirt bags money, you're going.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
To use that philosophy, yes, but you're also going to
be getting wreckshit.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
At the same time, two attorneys who made headlines defending
the Turpen parents. Remember the Turpin parents abuse twelve of
their thirteen children, didn't let them out of the house.
One of the teenage girls had to break out of
the house. These kids were all malnourished.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It was awful.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
The same lawyers that defended the Turpin parents are now
defending the I was gonna say a bad word, the
two people who killed their baby and lied about it.
These are the people who killed their seven month old son. Recently.
The mother said she went to the Big five parking lot.
She was changing the baby. Somebody shows up behind her,
(03:16):
says oh lah, and takes the baby and says that
the baby is missing, has been abducted, and that was
all a lie. Turns out, this baby, as we found
out last week, had been abused for quite some time,
an habitual abuse to this baby. Oh and by the way,
dad was out on probation that he violated for putting
another baby, a baby girl that time in the hospital.
(03:38):
So now these attorneys have no doubt taken up the
mantle of a whole parents who abused children.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
It's a strange, strange mantle, a strange mantle to Carrie,
and I mean to go back to the original discussion
of defense attorneys who say that they are doing it
because for the for the high Falluton reason that everybody
deserves a defense, and they do. That's a very basic
principle of American society is that regardless of how awful
(04:10):
your behavior, you do deserve to have legal defense represent you.
In this case, Alison Lowe and David March are from
the Riverside County DA's Public Defender's office sorry representative represented
David Turpin and Allison and Paul Atte Garthwaite are now
heading Jake Harrow's defense team. And then attorney Jeff Moore
(04:33):
from law offices there in Riverside represented Louise Turpin and
Jeff Moore is also representing Rebecca Harrow. They've all been
public defenders or defense attorneys for a couple decades.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
This is not new to them.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I just have this gut feeling that you know, like
we said, there are some people who honestly do this
because they honestly believe in the very important.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Rights too. Are both public defenders.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Though, because I just looked up, I thought that Pollick
garth Rate was a private attorney. But it looks like
Alison Low, who's a public defender who represented the Turpins,
also a public defender. So from the public defender's office,
this is this woman is somebody who has experienced defending
(05:27):
people who hurt their children.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
So this is not in it for the money, these
two people.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Okay, but there's got to be a point where as
a defense attorney, you say, there are cases I will
not take even if you believe if.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
You're a public defender, I mean that's that is really
the office that believes every single person, no matter how
awful and depraved you are, deserves a defense, and you
know that going into it.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
It's the point.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Then there are lifers in the public defender's office who
will stick with it for their career, but there are
others who go to the private practice.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Right yeah, I mean, if you're good at what you
do and you want to make money, you leave the
public defender's office and you go into private practice. You
get your experience in the public Defender's office, and then
you take that and you go make some money. In
this case, it seems like the powers that be in
the Public Defender's office says, who do we have with
experience when it comes to parents who harm their children?
(06:25):
And they went back to the Turpin case to find
that lawyer. So I'm going to back off the lawyers
in this situation. I thought that they were private attorneys.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
They are not.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
This was a supervisor decision. This was on the supervisory
level of who is going to take this case in
the public Defender's office And unfortunately there they've got the
experience of the Turpins under their belt. But the prosecutor's
office is responding with their best. I don't know this person,
(06:54):
but District Attorney Brandon Smith has tried over one hundred
cases twenty years of the DA's office, and they say
he is their best. And you don't, with all due respect,
you don't need your best to put these two away.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
You do not need your best. It's a good point,
all right.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
You were and a clipboard could handle the naked lady
of Brentwood and this case.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
By morning and then move over there in the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
All right, Chaugus is back, Shaugus.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
What is it? It's a disease.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Oh, this is the one that's gonna kill all of us.
And it's in Griffith Park. You've never heard of it's
why do they call it the kissing disease?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I'll tell you when we come back.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
We're telling you about this standoff that ended in Wells Chase.
I should say that ended in a standoff. It's over
in West la just east of the four or five
on south to Pulvta, right at Supulvita in Montana.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
That's why there are helicopters there.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
If you're on the freeway, you probably don't see much
of it because it's down below you. But there's a
woman in a newer Ford Bronco that apparently has decided
that clothing was too restrictive. So there's a naked lady
inside the Ford Bronco. They have broken a couple of windows,
I believe, to try to get to talk to her
to get her out of there safely. It started raining. Also,
(08:16):
there's this one specific cell of rain that has rolled
through that area, so it's not going to last for
very long time.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
The labor day can be wild weekend. You know, you've
got compounding interest that catches up with you. I don't
know if that makes sense, but you've got three days
of nakedity. It's hard to roll into a Tuesday not
naked sometimes, right.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Do you think that she came back?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Was like on the fruit she got into the commute
and then looked down and was like, oh, oh no, I.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Don't think she got into the commute as you say.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I don't think there was.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I don't think there was a commute that she was
going to get into this morning. You don't find yourself
naked and Brentwood needing to go to work most of
the time.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I never have, that's for sure. Now. I know every
time you've been there, you've been taken care of.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
There is a top of the hour the president is
expected to make an oval office announcement. These would be
the first public remarks in front of reporters since he
held the three hour and seventeen minute cabinet meeting that
was open to everybody. The unusually very public president has
not been very public for the last few days. That
(09:30):
sparked a bunch of rampant online rumors about whether or
not he's alive, which is ridiculous, ridiculous. The White House
and the Pentagon do say that today's announcement is defense
related and that there is an expectation it's about the
US Space Force headquarters that he wants to put him
in Alabama.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
All right, shagas, guys. This is a disease that's terrifying.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Why it lies dormant for years and it only makes
itself known when the victim keels over via a heart attack,
stroke or death.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
That sounds like fun.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
This is one of the most insidious diseases you've ever
heard of, and it's here. It's here in Los Angeles
and twenty nine other states across the United States. It
kills more people in Latin America than malariga each year,
which is a situation. Apparently I don't know about malaria,
and it's it's death toll all the time in Latin America.
(10:27):
But researchers think roughly three hundred thousand people here in
this country currently have it but have no clue, and
it's a it's just a matter of time until they
keel over from heart attack, stroke or death from the shagas.
It's caused by a parasite, Typanasama Cruisie, lives in the
(10:47):
blood sucking insect called the kissing bug. Are these the
bugs that bite me? And they're not mosquitoes? You know?
It happens all the time where you think you have
a mosquito bite. Your blood has certainly been sucked, but
it's not. It doesn't give you the telltale sign of
the mosquito bite, or there's a bump and it disappears.
Is that what's been biting me for years? And I
just don't know?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Fleas? Maybe? No, I don't have fleas, but thank you
for your concern. I do. No, I get some. In fact,
last night I had a couple around my ankle.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, and for the first forty five minutes or there's
about I don't know when they I got bit obviously,
for there's about a forty five minute window whi's the
most annoying feeling and that it goes.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Around O itchy and that goes Yeah, because a mosquito
bite will last for a few.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
That's what I'm wondering. Is that a shagus? Doubt it?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Doubt it research has shown that in some places like
Griffith Park, about a third of all of these kissing
bugs harbor the shagas disease parasite.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
So there you go. That's why it's called the kissing disease.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
There's a lot of pressure to label this thing an endemic,
meaning consistently present, because nobody knows about it, and they
want a campaign to let people know what the hell
are you supposed to do?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Not go outside, they said.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Some epidemiologists and researchers have said that they hope that
this will bring awareness, education dialogue, because they said it's
carried a stigma that shagas is falsely associated with poor
rural migrants from bug infected homes in tropical nations. But
for example, Salvador Ornandez, a cardiologist at Kaiser in northern California,
(12:23):
said we had a kid from the Hollywood Hills get it,
and that the patient had not traveled out of the
country and probably got it not in the poor rural
migrant bug infected home, but the leafy, affluent neighborhood where
kissing bugs are prevalent.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
So it lies dormant until it just kills you with
stuff that kills most people heart attack stroke, right, they say,
the proteins in the bugs saliva cause can cause acute
reactions like swollen limbs and eyes and anaphylaxis, but it's
those longer term or chronic effects that cause the most harm.
(12:58):
It's indistinct pile the symptoms from other forms of cardiac
and organ damage. So it's likely people are showing up
to their doctor's offices with arrhythmia or a swollen esophagus
and they're not even screened for this thing.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Well, can you take something?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I'm looking Anti anti parasitic medications can be used to
stop from progressing, but you still have it. Shaugus apparently,
is also prevalent in dogs that show very similar clinical
signs to what you would have heart failure or a arrhythmia,
et cetera, And a lot of people don't know it
until they try to go give blood.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Ah, the blood is going to.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Be tested and if it shows up, that's that might
be the first time that you even realize.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
You had it.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Right, I wonder if you have it, I don't how
do you know? You wouldn't know, That's a great question.
You wouldn't know because the cute symptoms don't always happen.
They say they can't cute or acute A cute You
definitely don't have cute.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Sometimes sparkle in my eye? Okay, little wiggle to my walk, Okay,
all right.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
She said the dogs often acquire the disease by eating
the bugs, which give a much higher dose of the
parasite than if a few bug poops, then a few
bugs poops in a cut.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
I'm going to read that all over again. Wait what.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Le Saunders is? It is a vet cardiologist at Texas
A and M. And she says dogs often acquire the
disease by eating the bugs, which give a much higher
dose of the parasite than a few bug poops in
a cut.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Wow that I've never heard that a correct couple of
dog poops in a cut.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Dog poops in a cut? All right, that's it, all right,
that's it. Yeah, that's it. From bugs to geese.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Oh I like this first of all. Well, I'll get
into it. I have a whole thing about the geese. Okay, right,
not really, I just I just enjoy geese. Don't you
enjoy geese?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Monday is September twenty second. I tear there was a
there was a point in my life there were geese
in my neighborhood. There was one house that had geese,
and you'd walk by the fence and those little geese
had stick their necks out and they'd nip at you.
And I'm five six. That's terrifying.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
What was scarier the geese or the sunflowers? You know that.
Now you mention it, there may be a connection. Ah,
we're doing real work here today. Good breakthrough.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI.
A six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Swamp watch comes along at the top of the hour.
We'll take you to Washington, d C. President Trump is
expected to hold a news conference just about eleven o'clock.
There are a lot of questions about where he's been
the last couple of days, but this probably doesn't have
anything to do with that. It is more about space.
I almost said space wars, space force. Although there was
(15:56):
also questions yesterday about something being thrown out of one
of the windows that the White House video showed what
appeared to be somebody throwing a black bag of something
out of one of the upper windows. Of course, that
has sparked more speculation about what's going on in there
if there.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Was something nefarious with the president's health, of the president's pulse,
do you really think it would result in a black
bag being thrown out of one of the windows of
the White House.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
That's a great question. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
A House committee is planning to meet today with ten
people who have accused Jeffrey Epstein of sex trafficking. They
said that they want to put more pressure on the
White House and the administration to come forward with information
about the Epstein files. The House cannot compel the Justice
Department to release documents, but if they do, vote obviously
(16:46):
vote in favor would have I guess put a spotlight
on the rift between the President and some of his
otherwise supporters in Congress that are calling for these files
to be lego.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Let out geese, honk.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
The Canada geese produce hundreds of pounds of droppings a day.
This is screwing up bacteria levels in local lagoons. It's
scaring the children. I'm sorry the droppings are scaring the children.
When you were a child, scared of geese of your neighbor,
or was it the droppings that scared you, It was
the fact that they.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Were as tall as you are going to bite me.
They were going to eat you.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, but up in northern California, Foster City is going
to spend four hundred thousand dollars to get rid of them.
They say there's up to four hundred geese in the
roughly thirty three thousand person community at a given time.
They have done several experiments with less expensive options, and
now they're going to chase them away with drones shaped
(17:46):
like falcons. They're going to use border collies to mimic
predators remote controlled devices that can float in water. How
much fun. If you're on the contract end of this pursuit,
Loster City calls you up and says, hello, drone company
filled with little boys who like to play with toys.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Well, you chase the geese away and they're like, oh, yeah, problem.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Or if you own a border Collie and they were like, yeah,
we want your dog to chase the geese.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yes please. I had a Border Collie, Sparky. Sparky what
I really loved this?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yeah I didn't know that. Yeah, pictures she died. Well,
I figured you hadn't talked about her in ten years
years ago. Figured, yeah, Sparky was long dead. I didn't
know that about you. I don't know you like dogs
and then the remote control devices.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I just don't like the dogs that you know, you
pay for. I like dirty, cheap dogs that nobody wants.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, this is there was a problem with this when
I lived in Seattle. The gas Works Park area, you know,
that is right at the top end of Lake Union.
So it was overrun by geese. Now it's overrun by
homeless people, but it was overrun by geese for a
long time, and it just it made it unpleasant. All
(19:08):
of the goose crap and all that sort of stuff.
It was awful. And they had these discussions very similar
to what Foster City is going through. Okay, what do
you do? Do you just call the geese? Did you
literally kill them and haul them away? And if you
do so, how do you do that? Do you gather
them all up into a truck and then take them
(19:29):
to a place where you gas geese?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I don't know, or do you shoot? Ask them That's.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
What they wanted to do, because they were trying to
find humane ways to put down geese as opposed to shooting.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Can you just relocate that chopping their.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Heads off or find some way because that's not where
would you relocate.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
To a place where geese are free to be? They
would come back.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
That was the concern, is that you could take them
sixty miles away, the geese would come back to the
place that they liked to poop in. Now, there was
one plan that got as close as anything where they
were going to gather the geese. They were going to
cull them. They were going to kill them by gassing
them and then butcher them and serve the meat in
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homeless shelters in and around Seattle.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
That is the worst plan I've ever heard that did
not go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
How did that get out of the first room it
was mentioned in?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
The other thing though, is they're talking about that how
do you do this in a humane way?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Right?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
It is a nuisance.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I don't know if they're necessarily causing health issues yet,
but that much goose dung could probably be an issue,
especially if the bacteria levels in the water systems get
too high. But one of the options they said is
egg addling. So they don't want to do anything violent
to the geese, but they'll abort the eggs. You cote
(21:00):
them with oil and that prevents them from developing. They've
done that before and it didn't work. They've put fences
up around the parks. It doesn't work, because you know why,
geese can fly, among other things. None of that has worked,
and now they have to figure out what their appetite
is for goose massacres in order to keep their foster
(21:23):
city as pleasant as possible.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Let's briefly go back to your childhood. Can we have
some childhood music of young Gary. He's five years old.
There is a neighbor who has aggressive geese and or
tall sunflowers. Elm or give me this computer, Young Gary,
Young Gary, childhood, Young Gary.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I was aware of the sure which age range you
were looking at point?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Do you think the booty came on your radar? Probably
later eleven eleven? Yeah, I would say so.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah. Nikki Sarno. Nikki Sarna was the one. Huh. I'm
just not that I remembered.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I'm just saying that's a name from somebody that I
knew in seventh grade.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Okay, I like that, you appreciate it an ass in
seventh grade anyway. So younger, you're five, You've got a
neighbor with aggressive geese and tall sunflowers.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
It was the fact that both things were your height
and were a little flowers were much higher. They were
much higher.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, no, the goose was. It was a red picket fence,
not white. It was a red picket fence around this house.
And they always had what I assumed were well kept flowers.
They're probably weeds now they think about it, because they
literally let geese run around in their front yard.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
But if you got too close to that fence, the
goose would would stick his head between the little pickets
of the fence and come after you.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Was there just the one gooser? They don't know, but
there was one. There was at least one that was aggressive.
I mean, if there were others in there, they weren't aggressive.
But this one maybe he just wanted to say hello.
That's not what he was doing, and he was making
the hank noise.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Well did you reach out to touch him? Of course
I did. I was five. Yeah, what else do you do?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
And so anyway, every other goose up to that point
in my life had been a good goose and been happy.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
The geese I read about in books.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
You could walk out, you could carry it, lay a
golden egg.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
The mother moose or the mother goose. They all seemed placid. Yeah,
they all seemed nice. They didn't seem aggressive. You didn't
know about the angry goose.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
And maybe you're just angry because he was the way
he was represented in books, like he wasn't given the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
To think a five year old Gary like walking up
to this goose thinking it's going to be like a
goose in the nursery rhyme and that wasn't.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
And having his dreams shattered when he was five. That's
fun to think about.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Well, I mean, it wasn't a dream of yours.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I'd like to have a I'd like to have a
positive image of things. I don't want to have it right,
that's true, pulled out from under me.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I'm five.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
But the fact that the visual that I have of
you just being unaware of that and walking towards the
goose at five with all the hope that this is
a good goose is sweet.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Something's happening in that standoff because Channel eleven.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
No, that's rain on the lens.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
That's blurd.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Oh what is what? And what did we see? Did
you see her naked? Tell me in the back of
the window, kind of crawling out and then like it
was like full back and then like before you could
really see the front. It was like dams Blige. What
are we working with here? She looked good. I don't know.
I couldn't tell. It was there's a dog in the car.
A dog in the car. That a blonde. It's a blonde.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, yeah, is exactly what you visualized.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Huh oh boy, they're being very careful. Yeah, Sharonay and
xanax Man.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
That so wild ride on a Tuesday morning, on a
Tuesday hot. Damn, Brentwood. You brought it today, naked. Appreciate it?
All right, we appreciate you. It's a naked Tuesday there
in Brentwood. So we'll come back and we'll do a
good terror in the skies, shall we. What a great
video that says she's in some sort of white sheet
(25:22):
being led away and still being a problem. She's a yapper.
This lady will not shut the f up. Oh my god,
she of course she does.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
She probably is.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
At one point said don't you know who I am?
Speaker 4 (25:37):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Casting Donald Trump in this ad campaign the face of
the high stakes special election. He's released two ads today
on social media, two of at least nine spots he's
going to release this week.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
It's a shock in awe approach.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
According to a senior Newsome strategist, it's not your grandmother's
media campaign where where you do one woodworking ad, he says,
and put it across all platforms. We're living in a
very different media environment. I hate this guy on paper.
Sean klegg Is his name? Is he the one shock
(26:26):
in awe approach from a Gavin Newsom redistricting ad campaign?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Has he get out of here?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Is he the one who's been driving the whole Gavenusom
impersonating Trump on social media?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I'm beginning to think, so, let me see what this
guy looks like. I bet he's gonna have a punchable face.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
That would be the third reference to a punchable face
that you've mentioned today. Are you going through something that
you need to exert, some sort of physical aggression, you
need to get it out of your system.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Maybe I'm trying to.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Think about how cool it is that I get to
fly to Brazil today and then sit in an airport
hotel for two days.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
And then, uh, you know, have.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
A game that's very difficult being played before my very eyes,
and then sit in a plane ride for fourteen hours
back in a span of three days. I'm trying to
think of it as an adventure and this is so
cool and I haven't gotten there yet. So these are
like the I pulled up this guy's picture. I don't
want to punch him in the face. Okay, not offhand. Well,
(27:33):
you would want to punch somebody if you were on
this flight. It's time for terror in this guy.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
No no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Fike is on and I are. You're the day off.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Roger, get off my plane.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Roderick Rodgers, let's our vector.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Victor is enough.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I haven't had it with these mulkey pipe snakes on
this money.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
It's Gary and Shannon's terror in the sky.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
On KFI, a British.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Airways flight devolved into suer pandemonium. The passengers and crew
started getting sick. Definitely a flight from hell, said Melanie
Wells while recounting this ill fated trip, which was a
flight from London to Egypt. The East Sussex native and
her nineteen year old daughter planned to take off on
(28:23):
this all excl all inclusive vacation.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
All exclusive, that'd be stupid on the.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Red Sea to help booster spirits, she said, I hadn't
been away for ages. It was definitely much needed. But
when we boarded, the temperature was so extreme I started
to feel unwell. It was supersonically hot, which is not
a thing. I ended up getting a really bad headache.
She initially attributed the symptoms to the heat until she
noticed she wasn't the only one feeling green around the gills.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
We had a flight like this. It was just mentioned
to me.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Where was I Anyway, it was years ago, and it
was the Chargers and we're playing in Arizona and it
was in all guest and believe it was a preseason
game obviously, and it was one hundred and twenty degrees.
For some reason, the air wasn't working on the plane
LA to Phoenix end of August. People were disrobing, people
(29:14):
were in states of undress. We call it the Kuwait
flight because it was insufferable. I mean, luckily it was quick,
it was an hour, but I mean when you're on
a plane like that, and if you're somebody who can't
take the heat, you love the heat, you do well,
I get heat sick sometimes. It's been a few times
in my life, but it happens where I get nauseous
(29:36):
in the whole bit, if I get overheated, and I
think a lot of people feel that way, and it
can lead to totally because.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
You have no you know, when you're on a plane,
you have no power, you have no control.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Melanie went on to say, about an hour and a
half in the air, crew members suddenly began running down
the aisle backwards and forwards. I didn't know what was
going on. There was only one mom who was eyes
rolled back in her head. Yeah, the crew looking after
them at actually collapse.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Especially if you're dehydrated going into that situation. Total of
six people got sick.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Melanie said she felt nauseous, had a headache, but her
symptoms were caused what she says was noxious fumes on board.
They did make an emergency landing in venice. Ambulances, fire
engines surrounded the plane. Emergency crews wearing hazmat suits and
breathing apparatus i apparati, scrambled aboard and began administering tests
(30:28):
to the affected crew. Melanie said, I was absolutely terrified.
I was thinking, we have all been inhaling toxic fumes.
At no point did the captain give us any information,
said another terrified passenger. After an eight hour delay, they
returned to London and then took off and went back
(30:50):
to Egypt.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
The next morning.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I was telling you off the air, your British accent
reminded me of it because it's so peaceful and calm
and makes everything nice. My husband listens to British news
in the morning. Sounds so much better coming from the accent.
All the bad news, is.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
It America news with a British accent or is it
like news here?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, it's news here. It is BBC News, I believe,
But they do new news from America. I saw that
the New War of the Roses, the Roses and uh Man.
I had a real problem with it because it's two
Brits and the Brits. The thing with Michael Douglas and
Kathleen Turner, they were damn sexy and they were hot,
and they were crazy. Brits they don't carry that amount
(31:26):
of crazy with them. They're just not a crazy people.
You can't get to the level of crazy of flying
off chandeliers when you're British.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
It's just a much more demure people.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
You don't.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
They are a demure people, emotionally demure. There's no way
you can take two Brits and put them in that
role as good as those both those actors were. America
brings with it its own brand of effing crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, they would never make basic instinct with British people.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Exactly. Case in point, thank you put the exclamation point
on my review.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Tie it up. Hit the thing, Elmer, we ended hit It,
Hit It. You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,
and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio Lab
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