December 12, 2025 • 28 mins
Gary & Shannon open the hour with Michael Monks, who breaks down the growing turmoil over the LAPD budget as Mayor Bass warns funding gaps could halt new police hires. Monks details what he sees as severe county-level mismanagement now coming to a head.
They shift to college football drama, updating the fallout around former Michigan coach Sherrone Moore and the broader questions it raises about oversight in major athletic programs.
Next, they look at how schools are adapting to AI — including swapping written exams for oral tests — and whether these changes actually curb cheating or just create new challenges.
The hour wraps with NFL chaos as Shannon heads out early for Chargers duty and the pair dig into the legal confusion over who really “owns” a football when a fan catches it in the stands.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:08):
Michael has joined us here on the Gary and Shannon Show.
There is a push now Mayor bass is asking the
city for a what amounts to it feels like a
sliver of money to keep the LAPD on track in
terms of hiring.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
It's a sliver of money when you think of how
large the city budget is, but it's a sliver of
money that has not been appropriated. We go through a
budget process every single late spring early summer. The budget
has to be approved and adopted by the end of June.
The fiscal year starts on July One does that every year.
Everyone involved in this story knows this. The mayor proposes
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a budget, the city Council holds a bunch of budget hearings,
The departments are all parated in including the LAPD. Everyone
has their wish list, their concerns, and then a budget
is crafted and adopted. This budget was crafted and adopted,
allowing the lap to hire about two hundred and fifty officers.
But as we talked on this very program just a
couple of months ago, the LAPD showed up at a
(02:07):
budget committee meeting. After this budget was already in place
and said we're bringing on four hundred and ten officers,
and the Budget Committee was like, wait a second, this
was not appropriated. Regardless of whether you agree that you
need more police officers in the LAPD, there is a process,
and this process has not been followed and the asterisk
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on this particular story. Mayor Bass puts out this letter
yes a late Wednesday night saying I need the council
to approve more than four million dollars so we can
get the full four hundred and ten or the LAPD
will have to stop hiring.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
January one.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Chief McDonald comes out late yesterday afternoons basically says the
same thing, and the council will now have to figure
this out. The mayor promised during the budget process, after
they reached a compromise on the number of officers, that
they would allow that they would work together to find
the full amount to bring on the full number desired
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by the LAPED, the full four hundred and ten. That
didn't happen, and now here we are at the end
of the year, and there's a lot of finger pointing
and a lot of crying and a lot of worrying
about what's going to happen. But no one in all
of the months in July one has done anything about this.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
And the thing is is, it's not like these are
novice politicians. These are people who have been in the
budget game for years that know. And it must be
exhausting to go through the dog and pony show every
time a budget needs to be approved and the you know,
the the jockeying and the fluffing and all the things
you have to do. It's awful, but it does have
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to be done right. That's why we have protocols in place. Now,
what is this I hear about Jim McDonald's saying we're
not even going to have an academy class.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
That's exactly what this is.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Because when you hire a police officer, it's not like
they get in the cruiser and start driving around town.
You're hired, and then you have to go to the academy, right,
And they do these new recruit classes every single month,
and they've been doing them. They have not been at
the numbers that they have wanted for years now. But
because of this situation, if they don't get this immediate
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injection of more than four million dollars, they will not
have a January class and the department's numbers will fall
to about eighty three hundred sworn officers for the first
time in decade.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Wow, and they want ten thousand.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, they've said that for years, as long as I've
been in LA they've said ten thousand is the would
be a goal for a fully staffed.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
LA Police Department.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
And we already know living here that people who live
in certain neighborhoods that have had spikes and burglaries over
the past couple of years, that the response time is
not what you want it to be. There's already that
basic struggle. But we have major events coming, including next year.
The World Cup will be our first test. Oh, it's
Olympics are coming.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Complete disaster between the World Cup and the Olympics. Maybe not,
maybe maybe it all goes super smooth, but I see
no such of smooth sailing ahead.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
I don't know how anyone could put their trust in
the city to do anything.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Now, by the way, I keep bringing this up. I
heart on it for months leading up to this vote,
and it's significantly relevant here. The city had a billion
dollar budget deficit that it had to close. It was
basing a layoff of sixteen hundred city workers. They saved
every one of those jobs, including in the police department.
No sworn personnel were on the chopping block, but people
that the departments that are critical to investigations, forensics types,
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those people.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
It's not just.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
People answering phones. They saved all those jobs, which they
still have to pay for.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Essentially.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Yeah, and they approved this multi billion dollar expansion of
the convention Center in downtown LA which they will have
to start paying in the next budget cycle. They're going
to have to find somewhere between eighty and two hundred
million dollars every year for the next thirty years, on
top of the ongoing and existing budget problems they have.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
That was a choice.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Well, it's a good thing that I could become an
LA P. The officer's day one. No academy training is there,
Give me the cruiser and.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
The gar No, don't say it. Oh, I thought you
were going to make an age reference.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I was, but I was going to ask because we've
talked with chiefdonalds.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
You guys, scenario, it's not that's your number one issue.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
You raised a good question, and I think Chief McDonald said,
there is no there's no ceiling on age for new
recruits for LPD.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yes, there is. There is a ceiling. There is thirty five.
I think. I think it's like being a president of
the United States, is any other way?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Well, they have one thing that they do have is
they've already extended these offers to people that are not
budgeted to go into this recruiting class. And if this
class doesn't happen, those people will go to other other
departments need police officers too.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
There is no maximum, there's the lap does not impose
a maximum for the academy to apply or work as
an LAPD office.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
What was that eighties series Police Academy? There was a
lot of randos that, Joama.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
What was that show in the eighties about the police academy.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
The LAPD?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
You mean the one called Police Academy Academy, that one
Steve Gutenberg.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Welcome to the room of dumbasses.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
So you're saying Steve Gutenberg even now and is what
I would imagine is his sixties, sixties, seventies.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Yeah, he could be an lap D officer.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah? Good?
Speaker 3 (07:29):
How old is Steve Gutenberg?
Speaker 5 (07:32):
We didn't get enough of him after the eighties.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yeah, yeah, sixty seven. There's a show called the Rookie.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Sorry about like a middle aged guy that becomes a
cop too.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
It's a way.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, there's also.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Elmore always sounds like his head is on a pillow.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I know, it like a soothing Yeah. You should hear
his meditation.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Does he do it?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, he's starting his own meditation.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Like I would subscribe to that.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
It's really I would download omer really good. Yeah, like
I hope he sticks with it here.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
This has been a revolting conversation. Thank you, Michael My pleasures.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Forty And I said, Amy looks so pretty. She said,
I'm going to lunch with his friend. Then she said,
your Sprinkles is a little dirty.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Who are?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Who are?
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Who Are?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
And I don't know where Sprinkles is today, but now
I got a hint from Amy King.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
We haven't gone to look for them yet, but.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I wonder what Sprinkles has been up to.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Michellef are out there somewhere.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Sprinkles seems to be bringing her night job into the
office this morning.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Oh Sprinkles, you need to calm down.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Well, it's Friday, girls, It's Friday.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
She's got to get ready for tonight, tonight going on
the main stage.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
We'll have to go do that.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I think got big dreams for sprinkles, got big, big dreams.
We gotta go get we gotta go get her off
the pole. Is she on a pole? She's probably on
a pole. I don't she better be in a nice stage.
Oh yeah, See if you've got any money, I don't
have any cash on me.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Could she take venmo diould?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I tell you the last time I was at Magic
City and uh, okay, no, not today? All right, I've
got an update on the coach from Michigan.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Oh I think in court.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, things just keep getting worse. Charon Moore. We're saying
his name, right, I don't know, still don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Still enough Charon Moore, head coach at Michigan football. First
African American head coach at Michigan, which is huge. Uh.
Decides to have a relationship with a staffer if you're just.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Joining us now in her twenties.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
In her twenties, yeah, married, By the way, he's married.
He's thirty nine, three kids, on top of the world,
getting that head coaching job at Michigan.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Beautiful family, the whole bit and.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
He decides to crap where he eats and hook up
with this staffer and things go haywire and the program
finds out he gets fired for having an inappropriate relationship
with a staffer.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
He freaks out that he's fired.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
He starts threatening his own life to his wife, goes
to the girlfriend's house with a knife, threatens her life.
It's a mess. It's an unraveling of epic proportions. He
has just been charged three charges home invasion, stocking, and
breaking and entering. He appeared in court like you said,
for his arraignment. He was wearing an all white outfit.
(10:32):
Appeared via zoom. Home evasion charge is a felony. It's
a third degree felony, carries up to five years and
a two thousand dollars penalty. The stocking is a misdemeanor
domestic relationship charge. The stocking of somebody you're dating is
different from the stocking of someone you're not. Apparently that
has up to one year and one thousand dollars penalty
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or five years of probation. And then the illegal entry,
the breaking and entering just ninety days or a five hundred
dollars penalty. Take that what you will around Christmas time
break it in or all you want is write a
check for five hundred dollars for the love.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Well and the head coach of a major football program,
Like this is under the uh what would you say
under the supervision I guess of the athletic director. And
that guy is now getting a lot of heat saying
that his name is Ward Manual. That Ward Manual created
this environment and knew about this guy's mental instability and
(11:30):
didn't do anything about it.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Well, that's weird.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
That seems almost like a coup, Like maybe they wanted
to get rid of him for another reason and this
is convenient.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I don't know how you would know that is well,
I don't know. I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
University of Michigan regents did meet to talk about this
whole situation, and as of right now, that was yesterday,
and as of right now, Ward Manual is still the
athletic director of Michigan.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
But he could be the next domino to fall there. Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Prosecutors are asking for a twenty five thousand dollars bond,
several conditions, including a mental health evaluation for more requested.
Obviously has no contact with the victim. Surrender his passport.
They said that he was in an intimate relationship with
this girl for a number of years and she broke
up with him on Monday. After that, he sent a
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number of texts and phone calls. She presented herself to
Michigan as part of its own investigation into a potential relationship.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
What a mess? What a mess? And for what?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Like?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
For what.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Love?
Speaker 6 (12:35):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I don't think that's what that is.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
So speaking of college football.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Celebration Bowl tomorrow, the South Carolina State, what's our mascot game?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Cox? South Carolina State?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Oh, South Carolina State. They would be the I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
The Wildcats bulldogs very close against the Prairie View A
and m rough Riders.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
The Cougars Panthers close.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
That's tomorrow morning at Atlanta, and then the LA Bowl
tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
It's so fi Boise.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
State, Boise State, Potatoes, Bronco Broncos.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
It's funny against the Washington Rainyar the University of Washington.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Oh, it's the uh you dub Yeah? Yeah? Dogs dogs
and dogs are called dog Pound.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
University of Washington.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
People are yelling, I know, I'm sorry, that's right.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
It's been a while, it's been I've been number twenty years.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Falcons beat the Buccaneers last night on Thursday Night Football
twenty nine. When we come back, how to outsmart Ai
teachers are going back to.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Oral exams.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
That sounds like you're not gonna pot oak a lot
of anxiety.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Oh, I thought you were gonna say something else.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
A couple of things I forgot to tell you about
in terms of Christmasing Christmas thing I've been doing. I
went to the event at Santa Anita Park in Chant Christmas.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
They did not pay me to say this this week, right, Yeah,
it was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
They have a light maize like I got lost in
the maize a couple times.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
It's a great maize. It's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
They've got ice skating, they've got mini golf, they've got
a big slide there. Amy King did a feature on
this for wake Up Calls. You can check it all
all out on her social media. But it's a really
cool experience. It's really well done ample parking and gets you.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
In the spirit.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
They've got hot chocolate, various different hot chocolates. They've got
gumbo and mac and cheese and pasta and broughtwors. They've
got like all the food groups, everything that you would
want to eat. They've got you know, sugar donuts, and
they've got all sorts of treats. They've got drinks everywhere.
It's just like a great experience. It's all very clean,
it looks brand new, and the lights are gorgeous. Massive
(15:01):
Christmas trees, massive reindeer. They really did a nice job
with that. The other thing I was gonna tell you
about in terms of Christmasing was the latest Christmas movie
I watched, and I watched it last night and it
was also awful.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I told you about the Michelle Pfeiffer one that was awful.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
This one was My Secret Santa, starring the girl from
Virgin River and a guy that should not act but
looks great. That wasn't nice. That was not part of
the season of the spirit.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Hey he put himself up there.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Good.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
But it's called My Secret Sannah. Awful. Awful movie. What
a slog And I think my husband and I are
kind of in the same boat where we're just watching
these movies now because they're so bad, Like we will
watch like an old standard, like we watched Christmas Vacation,
and then we watched a crap new movie Holiday themed,
(15:54):
and then we'll watched like Elf, and then we'll watch
a crappy new movie, you know. So we're spacing them
out with the old standards, the ones we know that
we love, and then just like this new fair which
is just so kitchy and so awful. You have to
generate all the disbelief in the world.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
It's all dialogue, is a I. It's all awful.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
And they're they're they're entrapping people that you like, you know,
Michelle Pfeiffer and you know the River.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
They're they're paying them.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I know, they're cashing those checks.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
They got to get money too, They got to They
got to get them kids some gifts, get them.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Felix.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
The Sprinkles work at Magic City or Bargarded.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Like another clue.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Okay, that's a good clue. Where's a poll around here?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I don't know, but listen, Sprinkles is getting a whole
lot more clues than Phonsie.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I know it's wait, wait, watch do you think that
Fonsi I did. I did profile Fonsie as going to
the club, but maybe Fonsi goes to the club. So
maybe Phonsie. Do you think Phonsie has tipped her yet?
Do you say, does she still have her clothes on?
She better have her clothes.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I think you can't take those clothes off. Okay.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Katherine Hartman is like the secret Mormon clothes, the underparts.
Katherine Hartman is a professor at University of Wyoming, and
she was figuring out what to do when it came
to finals this month, and her students encountered a testing method,
according to The Washington Post, as old as the ancient
(17:31):
philosophers whose ideas they were studying. She didn't do written exams.
She did oral exams as their final. Now you I
didn't think about this when I was reading through this
article in the first place. But if you look back
to your college days, depending on what kind of studies
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you did, kinds of classes that you took, oral exams
were probably not entirely known. When we were in college.
I took like a theater clack one. I took one
theater class and it wasn't It wasn't obviously, it wasn't
a written exam.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
It was a final scene that you had to make.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Remember ever having an oral exam in the history of
my education, I'm right to recite a poem at one point.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
That's I mean, that would kind of count. But in
terms of testing your knowledge about specific things that would
be really nerve.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Wracked, that would be awful. Are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Like that was before that would have provided me with
the what the kids now call anxiety.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
You didn't have a word for it back then.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
But could you imagine getting up in front of the
class and being on the spot and you had to
talk about what you know?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Oh, even if it's not in front of the class,
even if it's just you and the professor, and she's
banging out a list of questions, and you're like.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I mean, I had a hard enough time at confession.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
D Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
She said that she tells her students that this all
is an attempt to push back against AI, to take
AI out of the equation. And when you're trying to
prove to your professor what knowledge you've gained over the
course of the semester or year or whatever it is,
she says to her students, using AI is like bringing
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a forklift to the gym when you're supposed to be
working out your own muscles, and so far, she said,
most of the students have embraced.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
This is a little Overkell, but okay, I've.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Embraced the training regimen. One twenty year old is a
double major Spanish and History. Took her final exam LAS
last week and admits to being pretty freaked out by
the idea of the oral exam, but now she wishes
she had more of them. She says, with this exam,
I don't know how you could use AI.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Frankly.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
In a recent survey of college students, eighty five percent
said they had used AI in their courses. The other
fifteen percent lied through their teeth. They said they were
using it in terms of brainstorming ideas, maybe even preparing
for quizzes. A quarter of them admitted that they had
used AI to complete assignments, and about thirty percent said
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colleges should design more AI proof methods of assessment and
that oral exams may would be something that they would
that the students would be in favor of and to
test their knowledge as opposed to, you know, write a
twelve page term paper on the I don't know the oil.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Impact on the something of the trees. I love that
you were just trying to come up with something that
would be.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
And I couldn't come anywhere close.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
You could have said anything like earlier in the week
I brought up the War of eighteen twelve.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I would have been perfect. I guess right. Hey, did
you hear I heard on the radio this morning a
story radio station where you're listening to a radio station,
go on.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
There was a story about a guy who's suing a
hospital because he went in for a medical procedure for
some reason, was able to have his phone on him
and recorded the surgeons talking while he was under and
they were saying rude things about him or her. I
think it's a trans person, and I think it was
a woman. I think it's a trans transition. Was it
(21:13):
I just used your wife's trick. Oh, it was a
trans woman and she was recording the whole thing and
the things that the people were saying, and it was
not trans related like that is so an ancillary part
of the it has nothing to do with it, but
except there is a penis involved. But the fact that
(21:34):
she's suing, you know, because because they said things about
you know, her, is ridiculous or is it suon for
half a million dollars, and I think the jury awarded
it to her.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Here is the kicker. This is what they said.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
They said she was really annoying and that they wanted
the doctor's surgeon said she was so annoying, I wanted
to punch her in the face. And then said somebody
else said her penis looks like it has ebola. Well
that's hilarious, Like that is the most ridiculous insult.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
It's not even timely, but it made me laugh out loud.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
It was like, look at this, it's like in a
bola penis. Like, that's fun I don't know what it means.
It's not timely, nobody's mentioned ebola in a series of years.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
But it's funny.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
That is weird, right, Not a good rip, but a
half a million dollars. Would you have your penis name
called for half a million? I'd say yes, you would,
I think I would. I'd even go and you do
it for twenty bucks.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Any sort of hemorrhagic disease, fine by me, rip away,
I don't care. Sakuon Barkley, when he was playing the
Chargers just last week, scored a touchdown and gave a
football to one of the guys in the stands.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
What happens that football.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
What happens to football when the NFL football from the
game ends up in the stands.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
We'll talk about that week. Come back.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Man from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
The nuggets are in the oven. They're cooking in the
break we found Phonsie and Sprinkles. Yep, she was not
on a pole.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Hijinks. No, not on a pole.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Arguably a much more compromising position appears.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
She put herself in.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I am wondering what she has been told about behavior
that's acceptable in the workplace.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
It was a very holiday Christmas party. Too much to
drink thing that she is?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
That what you've done in your past?
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Yeah, Sprinkles, you need to calm down. Calm down.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
She did. I mean clever, She was very clever.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
If you want to follow the story of our elves,
Phonsie and Sprinkles, you can check out Gary and Shannon
on Instagram and you can see their paths and the
journeys that they're taking, the choices that they're making.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Today. It wasn't great.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
A few years ago, Jalen Hurt scores a touchdown for
the Philadelphia Eagles in New York. Yeah, and he gives
the football to an Eagles fan in the front road,
guy named Paul Hamilton.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Story should be over.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
It should be, But Eagles fans are awful.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
It wasn't Eagles fans. It was Jersey cops. New Jersey
State Police threw this guy up against a gate demanding
that he returned the ball.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Now, he eventually left the game. He did keep the ball.
But I should say he has sued. He sued the Eagles,
he sued the NFL, He sued the New Jersey State Police.
He sued the Giants. He sued everybody. Some of those
defendants have been kicked off the lawsuit. He's still suing
the NFL, Netlife Stadium and the New York Giants. He
(24:46):
says he's no longer an NFL fan and definitely not
an Eagles fan, although I don't think it was the
Eagles that were necessarily driving this train. There is no
NFL policy regarding returning a ball that goes into the stands,
well sometimes players.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
In this case, it sounds like hand the ball to
you know. There was a woman who had a ball
at at the game on Monday night, I don't remember
who gave it to her, but she was there in
the front row with the Obviously an NFL.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Like Sa Sa Kwan Barkley gave a ball to somebody
in the day. There is a penalty that can be
imposed but apparently hasn't been for a few years now,
can be imposed on the player for giving the ball
or throwing the ball.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Up into the states. No fun league stuff exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
That's why one of the reasons why they've probably not
been finding players who do that right. But there's also
a limited number of footballs each team. I think it's
twelve regular, twelve backups, and some kicking balls. And the
current balls are microchipped for statistics purposes, et cetera, and
the new first down measurement and all that sort of thing.
(25:50):
So there it's a more valuable ball than it used
to be. So teams may go to a fan and go, hey,
we'll give you a backup ball if you give us
the regular ball back. But there's no policy. The NFL
does not require you to give a ball back. Then
you think about the difference between that and say baseball baseball,
(26:12):
there's foul balls and home runs all game long, and
there's an opportunity for you to catch those you know.
And other than the warning, hey, watch out for batted
balls entering the stands, there's no requirement that you have
to give a ball back, even if it's like one
of those milestones of you know, a fiftieth home run
(26:33):
or you know, Barry Bond's home run or shoe Hey
Otani's fiftieth home run when he makes the fifty to
fifty season, there's no requirement that you give the ball back.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
It's always a deal.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Usually at that point you can keep it, sell that thing,
keep it, put it on your mantle, work out a
deal with the player, and you get equipment or assigned
jert whatever it is that you can do. But these
sports are smart enough to know that you're not. It's
not a good idea. It's not a good look perhaps
for the league to go into the stands and take
(27:03):
something from you like that. This guy, however, does say
he will continue with his lawsuit against the NFL for
something else.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
You don't just have local cops going after you to
get a ball back.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
And let me point out, the guy's an Eagles fan. Yeah,
I'm sure. When the first New Jersey state Trooper walked
up to him and said, sir, I'd like to talk
to you about the football, do you think?
Speaker 4 (27:31):
He replied, well.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
No, and the fact that he's like, I'm not even
an Eagles fan anymore.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Get out of here, then, then get.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Out and you weren't an Eagles fan to begin with, exactly,
get out of here.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Speaking of which, goodbye, I'm getting out of here.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I'm leaving.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
The Chargers have a chance to completely remove all possibilities
of the Kansas City Chiefs getting into the playoffs with
a win in Kansas City this week. It's going to
be twenty degrees, so that's where I'm headed.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
All your batteries charged and all that.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
A lot of batteries charge. I got all my chargers.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
But we did record some stuff, so I will make
another appearance in the show.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
You will, Yeah, oh, so you're not really going You're.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Just going away. You're gonna be quiet for a little bit.
It's probably a better idea, Sprinkles. You need to calm down. Yeah,
Sprinkles needs to be on restriction.
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You can't. That'd be obvious.
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Yeah?
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Everyone has. Oh you don't remember, Oh, you weren't here.
We did an.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
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I missed that. I missed the big revealed, but she did.
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Not here, it's Christmas was that asks Christmas what that mean?
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We'll do it later.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Michael has joined us here on the Gary and Shannon Show.
There is a push now Mayor bass is asking the
city for a what amounts to it feels like a
sliver of money to keep the LAPD on track in
terms of hiring.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
It's a sliver of money when you think of how
large the city budget is, but it's a sliver of
money that has not been appropriated. We go through a
budget process every single late spring early summer. The budget
has to be approved and adopted by the end of June.
The fiscal year starts on July One does that every year.
Everyone involved in this story knows this. The mayor proposes
(01:47):
a budget, the city Council holds a bunch of budget hearings,
The departments are all parated in including the LAPD. Everyone
has their wish list, their concerns, and then a budget
is crafted and adopted. This budget was crafted and adopted,
allowing the lap to hire about two hundred and fifty officers.
But as we talked on this very program just a
couple of months ago, the LAPD showed up at a
(02:07):
budget committee meeting. After this budget was already in place
and said we're bringing on four hundred and ten officers,
and the Budget Committee was like, wait a second, this
was not appropriated. Regardless of whether you agree that you
need more police officers in the LAPD, there is a process,
and this process has not been followed and the asterisk
(02:29):
on this particular story. Mayor Bass puts out this letter
yes a late Wednesday night saying I need the council
to approve more than four million dollars so we can
get the full four hundred and ten or the LAPD
will have to stop hiring.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
January one.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Chief McDonald comes out late yesterday afternoons basically says the
same thing, and the council will now have to figure
this out. The mayor promised during the budget process, after
they reached a compromise on the number of officers, that
they would allow that they would work together to find
the full amount to bring on the full number desired
(03:04):
by the LAPED, the full four hundred and ten. That
didn't happen, and now here we are at the end
of the year, and there's a lot of finger pointing
and a lot of crying and a lot of worrying
about what's going to happen. But no one in all
of the months in July one has done anything about this.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
And the thing is is, it's not like these are
novice politicians. These are people who have been in the
budget game for years that know. And it must be
exhausting to go through the dog and pony show every
time a budget needs to be approved and the you know,
the the jockeying and the fluffing and all the things
you have to do. It's awful, but it does have
(03:42):
to be done right. That's why we have protocols in place. Now,
what is this I hear about Jim McDonald's saying we're
not even going to have an academy class.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
That's exactly what this is.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Because when you hire a police officer, it's not like
they get in the cruiser and start driving around town.
You're hired, and then you have to go to the academy, right,
And they do these new recruit classes every single month,
and they've been doing them. They have not been at
the numbers that they have wanted for years now. But
because of this situation, if they don't get this immediate
(04:10):
injection of more than four million dollars, they will not
have a January class and the department's numbers will fall
to about eighty three hundred sworn officers for the first
time in decade.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Wow, and they want ten thousand.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, they've said that for years, as long as I've
been in LA they've said ten thousand is the would
be a goal for a fully staffed.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
LA Police Department.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
And we already know living here that people who live
in certain neighborhoods that have had spikes and burglaries over
the past couple of years, that the response time is
not what you want it to be. There's already that
basic struggle. But we have major events coming, including next year.
The World Cup will be our first test. Oh, it's
Olympics are coming.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Complete disaster between the World Cup and the Olympics. Maybe not,
maybe maybe it all goes super smooth, but I see
no such of smooth sailing ahead.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
I don't know how anyone could put their trust in
the city to do anything.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Now, by the way, I keep bringing this up. I
heart on it for months leading up to this vote,
and it's significantly relevant here. The city had a billion
dollar budget deficit that it had to close. It was
basing a layoff of sixteen hundred city workers. They saved
every one of those jobs, including in the police department.
No sworn personnel were on the chopping block, but people
that the departments that are critical to investigations, forensics types,
(05:29):
those people.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
It's not just.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
People answering phones. They saved all those jobs, which they
still have to pay for.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Essentially.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Yeah, and they approved this multi billion dollar expansion of
the convention Center in downtown LA which they will have
to start paying in the next budget cycle. They're going
to have to find somewhere between eighty and two hundred
million dollars every year for the next thirty years, on
top of the ongoing and existing budget problems they have.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
That was a choice.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Well, it's a good thing that I could become an
LA P. The officer's day one. No academy training is there,
Give me the cruiser and.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
The gar No, don't say it. Oh, I thought you
were going to make an age reference.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I was, but I was going to ask because we've
talked with chiefdonalds.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
You guys, scenario, it's not that's your number one issue.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
You raised a good question, and I think Chief McDonald said,
there is no there's no ceiling on age for new
recruits for LPD.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yes, there is. There is a ceiling. There is thirty five.
I think. I think it's like being a president of
the United States, is any other way?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Well, they have one thing that they do have is
they've already extended these offers to people that are not
budgeted to go into this recruiting class. And if this
class doesn't happen, those people will go to other other
departments need police officers too.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
There is no maximum, there's the lap does not impose
a maximum for the academy to apply or work as
an LAPD office.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
What was that eighties series Police Academy? There was a
lot of randos that, Joama.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
What was that show in the eighties about the police academy.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
The LAPD?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
You mean the one called Police Academy Academy, that one
Steve Gutenberg.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Welcome to the room of dumbasses.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
So you're saying Steve Gutenberg even now and is what
I would imagine is his sixties, sixties, seventies.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Yeah, he could be an lap D officer.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah? Good?
Speaker 3 (07:29):
How old is Steve Gutenberg?
Speaker 5 (07:32):
We didn't get enough of him after the eighties.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yeah, yeah, sixty seven. There's a show called the Rookie.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Sorry about like a middle aged guy that becomes a
cop too.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
It's a way.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, there's also.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Elmore always sounds like his head is on a pillow.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I know, it like a soothing Yeah. You should hear
his meditation.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Does he do it?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, he's starting his own meditation.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Like I would subscribe to that.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
It's really I would download omer really good. Yeah, like
I hope he sticks with it here.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
This has been a revolting conversation. Thank you, Michael My pleasures.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Forty And I said, Amy looks so pretty. She said,
I'm going to lunch with his friend. Then she said,
your Sprinkles is a little dirty.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Who are?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Who are?
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Who Are?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
And I don't know where Sprinkles is today, but now
I got a hint from Amy King.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
We haven't gone to look for them yet, but.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I wonder what Sprinkles has been up to.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Michellef are out there somewhere.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Sprinkles seems to be bringing her night job into the
office this morning.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Oh Sprinkles, you need to calm down.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Well, it's Friday, girls, It's Friday.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
She's got to get ready for tonight, tonight going on
the main stage.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
We'll have to go do that.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I think got big dreams for sprinkles, got big, big dreams.
We gotta go get we gotta go get her off
the pole. Is she on a pole? She's probably on
a pole. I don't she better be in a nice stage.
Oh yeah, See if you've got any money, I don't
have any cash on me.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Could she take venmo diould?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I tell you the last time I was at Magic
City and uh, okay, no, not today? All right, I've
got an update on the coach from Michigan.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Oh I think in court.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, things just keep getting worse. Charon Moore. We're saying
his name, right, I don't know, still don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Still enough Charon Moore, head coach at Michigan football. First
African American head coach at Michigan, which is huge. Uh.
Decides to have a relationship with a staffer if you're just.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Joining us now in her twenties.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
In her twenties, yeah, married, By the way, he's married.
He's thirty nine, three kids, on top of the world,
getting that head coaching job at Michigan.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Beautiful family, the whole bit and.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
He decides to crap where he eats and hook up
with this staffer and things go haywire and the program
finds out he gets fired for having an inappropriate relationship
with a staffer.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
He freaks out that he's fired.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
He starts threatening his own life to his wife, goes
to the girlfriend's house with a knife, threatens her life.
It's a mess. It's an unraveling of epic proportions. He
has just been charged three charges home invasion, stocking, and
breaking and entering. He appeared in court like you said,
for his arraignment. He was wearing an all white outfit.
(10:32):
Appeared via zoom. Home evasion charge is a felony. It's
a third degree felony, carries up to five years and
a two thousand dollars penalty. The stocking is a misdemeanor
domestic relationship charge. The stocking of somebody you're dating is
different from the stocking of someone you're not. Apparently that
has up to one year and one thousand dollars penalty
(10:54):
or five years of probation. And then the illegal entry,
the breaking and entering just ninety days or a five hundred
dollars penalty. Take that what you will around Christmas time
break it in or all you want is write a
check for five hundred dollars for the love.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Well and the head coach of a major football program,
Like this is under the uh what would you say
under the supervision I guess of the athletic director. And
that guy is now getting a lot of heat saying
that his name is Ward Manual. That Ward Manual created
this environment and knew about this guy's mental instability and
(11:30):
didn't do anything about it.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Well, that's weird.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
That seems almost like a coup, Like maybe they wanted
to get rid of him for another reason and this
is convenient.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I don't know how you would know that is well,
I don't know. I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
University of Michigan regents did meet to talk about this
whole situation, and as of right now, that was yesterday,
and as of right now, Ward Manual is still the
athletic director of Michigan.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
But he could be the next domino to fall there. Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Prosecutors are asking for a twenty five thousand dollars bond,
several conditions, including a mental health evaluation for more requested.
Obviously has no contact with the victim. Surrender his passport.
They said that he was in an intimate relationship with
this girl for a number of years and she broke
up with him on Monday. After that, he sent a
(12:16):
number of texts and phone calls. She presented herself to
Michigan as part of its own investigation into a potential relationship.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
What a mess? What a mess? And for what?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Like?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
For what.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Love?
Speaker 6 (12:35):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I don't think that's what that is.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
So speaking of college football.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Celebration Bowl tomorrow, the South Carolina State, what's our mascot game?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Cox? South Carolina State?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Oh, South Carolina State. They would be the I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
The Wildcats bulldogs very close against the Prairie View A
and m rough Riders.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
The Cougars Panthers close.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
That's tomorrow morning at Atlanta, and then the LA Bowl
tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
It's so fi Boise.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
State, Boise State, Potatoes, Bronco Broncos.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
It's funny against the Washington Rainyar the University of Washington.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Oh, it's the uh you dub Yeah? Yeah? Dogs dogs
and dogs are called dog Pound.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
University of Washington.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
People are yelling, I know, I'm sorry, that's right.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
It's been a while, it's been I've been number twenty years.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Falcons beat the Buccaneers last night on Thursday Night Football
twenty nine. When we come back, how to outsmart Ai
teachers are going back to.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Oral exams.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
That sounds like you're not gonna pot oak a lot
of anxiety.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Oh, I thought you were gonna say something else.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
A couple of things I forgot to tell you about
in terms of Christmasing Christmas thing I've been doing. I
went to the event at Santa Anita Park in Chant Christmas.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
They did not pay me to say this this week, right, Yeah,
it was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
They have a light maize like I got lost in
the maize a couple times.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
It's a great maize. It's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
They've got ice skating, they've got mini golf, they've got
a big slide there. Amy King did a feature on
this for wake Up Calls. You can check it all
all out on her social media. But it's a really
cool experience. It's really well done ample parking and gets you.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
In the spirit.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
They've got hot chocolate, various different hot chocolates. They've got
gumbo and mac and cheese and pasta and broughtwors. They've
got like all the food groups, everything that you would
want to eat. They've got you know, sugar donuts, and
they've got all sorts of treats. They've got drinks everywhere.
It's just like a great experience. It's all very clean,
it looks brand new, and the lights are gorgeous. Massive
(15:01):
Christmas trees, massive reindeer. They really did a nice job
with that. The other thing I was gonna tell you
about in terms of Christmasing was the latest Christmas movie
I watched, and I watched it last night and it
was also awful.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I told you about the Michelle Pfeiffer one that was awful.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
This one was My Secret Santa, starring the girl from
Virgin River and a guy that should not act but
looks great. That wasn't nice. That was not part of
the season of the spirit.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Hey he put himself up there.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Good.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
But it's called My Secret Sannah. Awful. Awful movie. What
a slog And I think my husband and I are
kind of in the same boat where we're just watching
these movies now because they're so bad, Like we will
watch like an old standard, like we watched Christmas Vacation,
and then we watched a crap new movie Holiday themed,
(15:54):
and then we'll watched like Elf, and then we'll watch
a crappy new movie, you know. So we're spacing them
out with the old standards, the ones we know that
we love, and then just like this new fair which
is just so kitchy and so awful. You have to
generate all the disbelief in the world.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
It's all dialogue, is a I. It's all awful.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
And they're they're they're entrapping people that you like, you know,
Michelle Pfeiffer and you know the River.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
They're they're paying them.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I know, they're cashing those checks.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
They got to get money too, They got to They
got to get them kids some gifts, get them.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Felix.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
The Sprinkles work at Magic City or Bargarded.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Like another clue.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Okay, that's a good clue. Where's a poll around here?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I don't know, but listen, Sprinkles is getting a whole
lot more clues than Phonsie.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I know it's wait, wait, watch do you think that
Fonsi I did. I did profile Fonsie as going to
the club, but maybe Fonsi goes to the club. So
maybe Phonsie. Do you think Phonsie has tipped her yet?
Do you say, does she still have her clothes on?
She better have her clothes.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I think you can't take those clothes off. Okay.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Katherine Hartman is like the secret Mormon clothes, the underparts.
Katherine Hartman is a professor at University of Wyoming, and
she was figuring out what to do when it came
to finals this month, and her students encountered a testing method,
according to The Washington Post, as old as the ancient
(17:31):
philosophers whose ideas they were studying. She didn't do written exams.
She did oral exams as their final. Now you I
didn't think about this when I was reading through this
article in the first place. But if you look back
to your college days, depending on what kind of studies
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you did, kinds of classes that you took, oral exams
were probably not entirely known. When we were in college.
I took like a theater clack one. I took one
theater class and it wasn't It wasn't obviously, it wasn't
a written exam.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
It was a final scene that you had to make.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Remember ever having an oral exam in the history of
my education, I'm right to recite a poem at one point.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
That's I mean, that would kind of count. But in
terms of testing your knowledge about specific things that would
be really nerve.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Wracked, that would be awful. Are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Like that was before that would have provided me with
the what the kids now call anxiety.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
You didn't have a word for it back then.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
But could you imagine getting up in front of the
class and being on the spot and you had to
talk about what you know?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Oh, even if it's not in front of the class,
even if it's just you and the professor, and she's
banging out a list of questions, and you're like.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I mean, I had a hard enough time at confession.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
D Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
She said that she tells her students that this all
is an attempt to push back against AI, to take
AI out of the equation. And when you're trying to
prove to your professor what knowledge you've gained over the
course of the semester or year or whatever it is,
she says to her students, using AI is like bringing
(19:12):
a forklift to the gym when you're supposed to be
working out your own muscles, and so far, she said,
most of the students have embraced.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
This is a little Overkell, but okay, I've.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Embraced the training regimen. One twenty year old is a
double major Spanish and History. Took her final exam LAS
last week and admits to being pretty freaked out by
the idea of the oral exam, but now she wishes
she had more of them. She says, with this exam,
I don't know how you could use AI.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Frankly.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
In a recent survey of college students, eighty five percent
said they had used AI in their courses. The other
fifteen percent lied through their teeth. They said they were
using it in terms of brainstorming ideas, maybe even preparing
for quizzes. A quarter of them admitted that they had
used AI to complete assignments, and about thirty percent said
(20:06):
colleges should design more AI proof methods of assessment and
that oral exams may would be something that they would
that the students would be in favor of and to
test their knowledge as opposed to, you know, write a
twelve page term paper on the I don't know the oil.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Impact on the something of the trees. I love that
you were just trying to come up with something that
would be.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
And I couldn't come anywhere close.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
You could have said anything like earlier in the week
I brought up the War of eighteen twelve.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I would have been perfect. I guess right. Hey, did
you hear I heard on the radio this morning a
story radio station where you're listening to a radio station,
go on.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
There was a story about a guy who's suing a
hospital because he went in for a medical procedure for
some reason, was able to have his phone on him
and recorded the surgeons talking while he was under and
they were saying rude things about him or her. I
think it's a trans person, and I think it was
a woman. I think it's a trans transition. Was it
(21:13):
I just used your wife's trick. Oh, it was a
trans woman and she was recording the whole thing and
the things that the people were saying, and it was
not trans related like that is so an ancillary part
of the it has nothing to do with it, but
except there is a penis involved. But the fact that
(21:34):
she's suing, you know, because because they said things about
you know, her, is ridiculous or is it suon for
half a million dollars, and I think the jury awarded
it to her.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Here is the kicker. This is what they said.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
They said she was really annoying and that they wanted
the doctor's surgeon said she was so annoying, I wanted
to punch her in the face. And then said somebody
else said her penis looks like it has ebola. Well
that's hilarious, Like that is the most ridiculous insult.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
It's not even timely, but it made me laugh out loud.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
It was like, look at this, it's like in a
bola penis. Like, that's fun I don't know what it means.
It's not timely, nobody's mentioned ebola in a series of years.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
But it's funny.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
That is weird, right, Not a good rip, but a
half a million dollars. Would you have your penis name
called for half a million? I'd say yes, you would,
I think I would. I'd even go and you do
it for twenty bucks.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Any sort of hemorrhagic disease, fine by me, rip away,
I don't care. Sakuon Barkley, when he was playing the
Chargers just last week, scored a touchdown and gave a
football to one of the guys in the stands.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
What happens that football.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
What happens to football when the NFL football from the
game ends up in the stands.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
We'll talk about that week. Come back.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Man from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
The nuggets are in the oven. They're cooking in the
break we found Phonsie and Sprinkles. Yep, she was not
on a pole.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Hijinks. No, not on a pole.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Arguably a much more compromising position appears.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
She put herself in.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I am wondering what she has been told about behavior
that's acceptable in the workplace.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
It was a very holiday Christmas party. Too much to
drink thing that she is?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
That what you've done in your past?
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Yeah, Sprinkles, you need to calm down. Calm down.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
She did. I mean clever, She was very clever.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
If you want to follow the story of our elves,
Phonsie and Sprinkles, you can check out Gary and Shannon
on Instagram and you can see their paths and the
journeys that they're taking, the choices that they're making.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Today. It wasn't great.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
A few years ago, Jalen Hurt scores a touchdown for
the Philadelphia Eagles in New York. Yeah, and he gives
the football to an Eagles fan in the front road,
guy named Paul Hamilton.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Story should be over.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
It should be, But Eagles fans are awful.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
It wasn't Eagles fans. It was Jersey cops. New Jersey
State Police threw this guy up against a gate demanding
that he returned the ball.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Now, he eventually left the game. He did keep the ball.
But I should say he has sued. He sued the Eagles,
he sued the NFL, He sued the New Jersey State Police.
He sued the Giants. He sued everybody. Some of those
defendants have been kicked off the lawsuit. He's still suing
the NFL, Netlife Stadium and the New York Giants. He
(24:46):
says he's no longer an NFL fan and definitely not
an Eagles fan, although I don't think it was the
Eagles that were necessarily driving this train. There is no
NFL policy regarding returning a ball that goes into the stands,
well sometimes players.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
In this case, it sounds like hand the ball to
you know. There was a woman who had a ball
at at the game on Monday night, I don't remember
who gave it to her, but she was there in
the front row with the Obviously an NFL.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Like Sa Sa Kwan Barkley gave a ball to somebody
in the day. There is a penalty that can be
imposed but apparently hasn't been for a few years now,
can be imposed on the player for giving the ball
or throwing the ball.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Up into the states. No fun league stuff exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
That's why one of the reasons why they've probably not
been finding players who do that right. But there's also
a limited number of footballs each team. I think it's
twelve regular, twelve backups, and some kicking balls. And the
current balls are microchipped for statistics purposes, et cetera, and
the new first down measurement and all that sort of thing.
(25:50):
So there it's a more valuable ball than it used
to be. So teams may go to a fan and go, hey,
we'll give you a backup ball if you give us
the regular ball back. But there's no policy. The NFL
does not require you to give a ball back. Then
you think about the difference between that and say baseball baseball,
(26:12):
there's foul balls and home runs all game long, and
there's an opportunity for you to catch those you know.
And other than the warning, hey, watch out for batted
balls entering the stands, there's no requirement that you have
to give a ball back, even if it's like one
of those milestones of you know, a fiftieth home run
(26:33):
or you know, Barry Bond's home run or shoe Hey
Otani's fiftieth home run when he makes the fifty to
fifty season, there's no requirement that you give the ball back.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
It's always a deal.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Usually at that point you can keep it, sell that thing,
keep it, put it on your mantle, work out a
deal with the player, and you get equipment or assigned
jert whatever it is that you can do. But these
sports are smart enough to know that you're not. It's
not a good idea. It's not a good look perhaps
for the league to go into the stands and take
(27:03):
something from you like that. This guy, however, does say
he will continue with his lawsuit against the NFL for
something else.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
You don't just have local cops going after you to
get a ball back.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
And let me point out, the guy's an Eagles fan. Yeah,
I'm sure. When the first New Jersey state Trooper walked
up to him and said, sir, I'd like to talk
to you about the football, do you think?
Speaker 4 (27:31):
He replied, well.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
No, and the fact that he's like, I'm not even
an Eagles fan anymore.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Get out of here, then, then get.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Out and you weren't an Eagles fan to begin with, exactly,
get out of here.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Speaking of which, goodbye, I'm getting out of here.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I'm leaving.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
The Chargers have a chance to completely remove all possibilities
of the Kansas City Chiefs getting into the playoffs with
a win in Kansas City this week. It's going to
be twenty degrees, so that's where I'm headed.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
All your batteries charged and all that.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
A lot of batteries charge. I got all my chargers.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
But we did record some stuff, so I will make
another appearance in the show.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
You will, Yeah, oh, so you're not really going You're.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Just going away. You're gonna be quiet for a little bit.
It's probably a better idea, Sprinkles. You need to calm down. Yeah,
Sprinkles needs to be on restriction.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
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