February 19, 2025 • 28 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. We mentioned this that we're even
closer to spring training. Cubs and Dodgers will play tomorrow
in Glendale, Arizona. They're kicking off the spring schedule because
of course they then go to Japan. They're playing in
Tokyo in the middle of next month. The first two
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regular season games will actually be played a couple of
weeks before the rest of the regular season starts, so
they get to get a head start on all of this.
And during the Grapefruit League and Cactus League seasons this spring,
they're going to be using an automated ball strike system.
It will be in place, they said, for roughly sixty
percent of spring training games. It's in I believe thirteen
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stadiums in both Florida and Arizona, and the MLB is
going to use this spring training to figure out whether
the system would be suitable for Major League They won't
even if it works, they're not putting it in place
for the twenty twenty five regular season. Speaking of which
the Chargers opened the football season. They will be opening
September fifth, in Salth Paulo, Brazil. They announced that this morning.
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They have not yet named the opponent, but we do
know that the Chargers will be listed as the home
team for the game, part of the NFL's return to
sal Polo, after the Eagles and Packers squared off there
to open last season.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
What else is going on? Time for what's happening?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Well, the winter storm that has rolled through this central
and eastern parts of the United States is as cold
as promised.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
That storm brought eleven inches of snow to Missouri, eight
inches to Kansas, more than two inches to Oklahoma. My
daughter in Central Texas said it was snowing there this
morning and it's somewhere around seventeen degrees if you can
believe it. Snow is falling in Tupelo, Mississippi. Nashville, Tennessee.
Schools in Nashville closed today because of the amount of snow.
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Many cities recorded record low temperatures twenty five below in
Rapid City, South Dakota, fifteen below in Billings, Montana, a
single digit, a single degree in Wichita, Kansas, and the
low in Oklahoma City was two degrees. The USDA is
going to be trying to hire back its bird flu experts.
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USDA has been trying to rehire these experts the agency
accidentally fired as part of their efforts to cut costs
based on the recommendations from the Department of Government Efficiency.
The agency added that several types of workers, including vets
and some other emergency response personnel, had been exempted from
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job cuts so they could continue to work on bird
flu efforts, and the agency says it continues to prioritize
the response to highly pathogenic avian influenza. This has been
a pretty common thing over the last several days where
these agencies get recommens from the Department of Government Efficiency,
they fire everybody, and then they go, oops, not you guys,
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But then they have a hard time finding the you
guys because they don't have contact information for them or whatever.
Five men have been arrested in connection with a murder
for higher plot in San Bernardino involving the wife of
one of the suspects, which resulted in her death. She
was Yesenia Torres, known by her friends as Jessica, shot
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to death on January tenth in the parking lot of
Burger Point on Mills Street. She was walking out of
the restaurant to her car. She was approached by a
gunman who chased her around the car before he shot
at her. They said, initially it looked like a robbery,
but the further investigation revealed it was a calculated murdered plot.
The You know how dangerous picnics can be, right, Well,
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officials in San Clementi are considering a crackdown on unpermitted
picnicking and other types of outdoor food and drink consumption.
It would apply to all city property if passed. It
mainly targets North Beach there in San Clementy. Official said
regular unpermitted gatherings often leave the area trashed. The guy
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who announced it proposed the bill. Rick Loffler, the council member,
has argued that the unregulated distribution of food and drinks
in public is both dangerous and is destructive. Well, if
you were outside early this morning, you may have seen
or heard the latest ICBM test at Vandenberg Space Force.
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Space Guardians launched an unmanned minute Man two ICBM equipped
with a single telemeter joint test assembly re entry vehicle.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
From Vandenburg over in Santa Barbara County.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
It's primary testing ground for the Air Force Global Strike
Commands ICBM deterrent infrastructure. Three hundred tests have been conducted
in the past. The three hundred and seventy seventh Test
and Evaluation Group, located at Vanderburgh, is the only dedicated
ICBM test organis station that runs tests that measure both
the current and the future capabilities of the ICBM force.
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And Gavin Newsom has yet another plan to try to
bring some mortgage relief for disaster victims here in California. Today,
he announced her proposal for one hundred and twenty five
million dollar program geared at helping wildfire victims, for homeowners
whose homes were destroyed or damaged, who are at risk
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of foreclosures, and the natural disaster that dates back to
twenty twenty three, so that means not just the Palisades
and Eating fires, but also the Park Fire Franklin fire
as well. The package would use existing mortgage settlement funding,
meaning it would not have an impact on the proposed
twenty five to twenty six budget for the state. Yesterday
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we told you about this Ziz group, the one with
the Bay Area ties. They've been linked to at least
six killings and now they picked up Jack or Zizz
as he goes by. Now we'll talk about this militant
vegan transgender cult. You're not a member of that, you know.
You don't check enough of those boxes, some of them,
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but not enough.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
One just to being a vegan. That's it. Militant. No,
I'm not militant. No, you listen to John Cobelt too much.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I'm not well where else am I going to get
my information from. So this cult, this weird militant vegan
transgender cult, may have come to an end.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yesterday.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
When I told you about it, we didn't know that
the leader had been arrested. But Jack Lisota, who goes
by Zizz and uses female pronouns, was arrested alongside an
accomplice in Maryland just on Monday.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
But it starts a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Up in Alaska, Jack Lesoda was a pretty well regarded
tech genius undergraduate degree in computer science from the University
of Alaska, interned with NASA, wrote a puzzle game called
Dystheism before he moved to the Bay Area in twenty
sixteen to work in tech, and one of the things
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that he was most involved with, or at least most
maybe concerned about was the progress of artificial intelligence. And
he was one of those guys who thought that AI
would destroy humanity, or I should say, will destroy humanity,
and joined a bunch of what they call rationalists in
Berkeley when he moved to the Bay Area. And these
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rationalists often tried to kind of figure out what makes
humanity work.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
They try to understand human cognition, and.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Part of that, an offshoot of that is the belief
that AI will destroy humanity. So Jack Lesoda starts a
blog post and talks about living in communal homes while
in and around the Bay Area, specifically Berkeley. They moved
into a split level house together that Jack and some
other people in South Berkeley grad students, tech workers, bohemian people,
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Bay Area people also loosely interested in that theory of
rationalism and AI safety. About twenty sixteen, Jack started publishing
his philosophical musings using the name Ziz and going by
the pronoun Her and She and wrote things like, unfortunately
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you are not as smart as you and are as
easily tricked. In order not to be tricked, you need
to use your full deliberative brain power you and you
need to fuse my head already hurts. Instead of attending
sessions on math and computers in some of these Machine
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Intelligence Research Institute at the Center for Applied Rationality, he
would pull people aside pitch ideas, engage in these intense
conversations about rationalism, about human cognition, about AI, insisting that
the Machine Intelligence Research Institute should use the hemisphere theory
as the rubric for whom to hire. In November of
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twenty nineteen, some sort of a religious group had descended
upon Westminster Woods.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Oh my gosh, I know where that was. I went
to camp there a couple times.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Westminster Woods a two hundred acre property along the Bohemian
Highway north of Occidental, and Jacklesoda and some of his
group were showing up for the group's annual retreat including
team building and ropes courses, and they blocked the event
and they spoke on walkie talkies. They wore those guy
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Fawkes masks from V.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
For Vendetta or Vendetta.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The flyers said trans women were being discriminated against despite
being naturally inclined in mental tech development. Deputies called in
swat teams in an armored vehicle to get them out
of there. While they arrested the four demonstrators. They would
also be charged criminal counts, including conspiracy obstructing an officer. Well,
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that was November of twenty nineteen. There was a strange
story a few years later. Jack's Jack Sorry, was on
a boat in August of twenty two. The Coastguard got
a call that someone had gone overboard in the San
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Francisco Bay area. Jack's sister, Naomi, and another person who
were at that Westminster Woods protest said that they had
been on Jack's boat when he fell in the water
about eleven o'clock while working on the motor. Coastguard searched
for hours in the fifty five degree water. They informed
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Naomi that it had been several hours. Nobody was found
and the chances of survival had expired. No death certificate issued,
an obituary showed up in the Alaska newspaper. Tributes flooded in.
Jack was dead. One of the co defendants in that
protest was missing. The two remaining defendants from the protest
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continued fighting the charges. But all of this was strange
because a few weeks later, one of those protesters was
killed and the person that was with them at the
protest was charged with murder. That was the beginning of
the weirdness in this case, because by the way Jack
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fell over, the boat was declared dead not dead, in
the early morning hours of no November twenty second, sorry
November of twenty two. This would have been a few
months after the boating accident. A Valeo landlord was lured
to one of his tenants trailers to fix a water leak.
This eighty year old guy he rented space to several
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young people who were simply living in box trucks and
vans on his property. He said they were initially friendly,
but they were unconventional. He would see him around the
yard dressed in black. All of them, he said, were
men transitioning to women COVID hits. They stopped paying rent.
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He takes them to court for back rent. One of
them takes out a pocket knife threatens him, so he
began carrying a gun. During one of these confrontations, when
he thought he was out there simply to fix a leak,
someone pulls a sword on him, so he shoots and
kills one of these people. It was determined to be
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self defense, so he was never charged. But the other
people who started the fight, who are renting space from
this landlord in Vallejo. They were charged with murder because
they were involved in the fight that ended with this
guy shooting in self defense. Oh and by the way,
Jack Zizz still not dead. I'll explain more about these
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Zizians and this weird militant vegan trans cult and the.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Murders that they're associated with.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
President Trump is throwing the Senate Republican budget plan into turmoil.
Republican senators voted to begin work on a three hundred
and forty billion dollar plan focused on funding the White
House's deportations and border security, but Trump criticized the approach.
He sided instead with the House Republicans version of the budget.
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It would include four and a half trillion dollars in
tax cuts and some other priorities. Senators wanted to address
those later in a second package, so JD. Vance been
sent over to the Capital to try to work out
some of those details we're telling you about Jack Lesota,
Jack Almadeus Lesota, who for all intents and purposes, is
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being credited with or blamed for starting a group of Zizians,
a vegan, transgender militant group that is now connected to
multiple murders and deaths. So he's a computer programmer, hates Ai,
loves the theory of rationalism, talking about human cognition. In
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twenty nineteen, was involved in a protest up outside of Occidental,
where he was arrested, charged many times with different accounts,
and the SWAT team actually had to go in and
rescue people who were basically being held there kidnapped against
their will. In twenty twenty two. In August of twenty two,
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his own sister reported that he had fallen overboard in
the San Francisco Bay area. They were out on a
boat late at night. He went to go fix the
motor and then went into the water.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Well.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
After a day of searching, the coastguard said, no, he's gone.
No chance of him surviving the fifty five degree weather.
In November of twenty twenty two, just a couple of
months later, one of the landlords that was renting just
literally a lot to some of these Zizzy and cult
members who were living in box trucks and vans, he
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was attacked by a group of them. They had stopped
paying rent during COVID, and he went to go collect
started wearing a gun because he knew that they were threatening,
they attacked him.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
He woke up with a sword.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Sticking out of his chest, pulls out a gun and
starts shooting, ended up killing one of the persons. Prosecutors
later charged the survivors of that group with murder under
the theory that it was their acts that directly cause
the landlord to shoot in self defense. That was November
of twenty two. In January of twenty three. Oh and,
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by the way, remember the fact that Jack Lisota Ziz
was supposedly dead after falling overboard. He was at that
lot the night that the landlord shot and killed somebody.
He was interviewed by of Valeo police. A couple months later,
January of twenty three, Pennsylvania State troopers go to a
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home for a welfare check and they find the bodies
of Richard and Rita Zazko. They determined the couple, which
happened to be parents of Michelle Zazko, had been killed
in their home a few days before that. Guests whom
Michelle Zazko is friends with, Yeah, this Jack Lisoda Ziz person.
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A couple of weeks later, as they investigate their tracking
down the daughter, they find not only the daughter, but
Jack Lsoda Ziz. They said that they encountered Les Soda
and a second person, a guy named Daniel Blank. Blank
did what he was supposed to, put his hands upon
his back, walked away. Ziz laid on the ground and
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pretended to be unconscious. According to cops, he had to
be carried out. So this Jacklsoda now and facing active
warrants in the state of California from the protest and
in Pennsylvania for the connection potentially to the murders of
this couple nowhere to be found.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
In Valao.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Let's go back to that case because the landlord was
about to take part in the trial of these two
guys on murder chargers. Remember, the landlord shot in self defense,
but the two guys were charged with starting the fight
that ended in the death. Oh he was stabbed to
death in the middle of the street and his throat
slashed just before the trial was supposed to start. That
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was January sixteenth. On January twentieth this year, federal agents
stopped a blue Prius on a highway near the Canadian
border in Vermont. Inside were two more people with ties
to this Zizzy and cult leader. Two people Felix Buckholt
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went by the name Ophelia and Teresa Young Blute, a
twenty one year old computer science student. She had applied
for a license in Washington State to marry someone with
whom she attended an elite private high school in Seattle.
They had been watching these two for days after an
employee at their hotel reported them because they looked weird,
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all black tac clothing, tactical style clothing, and because this
guy was walking around with a gon in a holster
on his hip.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
When they were stopped on the highway.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Ermann, guy gets out, pulls out a handgun, shoots at
the border agents. One of them shoots back. They kill
both Felix, Ophelia Buckholt and one of the border agents,
and they injure the twenty one year old and they
that goes to her to her arrest, and they find
all kinds of stuff in there, tactical gear, ballistic helmet,
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night vision device, face respirators, two way radios, hollow point bullets.
They also found her journal, which according to prosecutors, contained
cipher text and writings about her psychedelic experiences. That was
January twentieth of this year, just two days ago. He
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was taken into custody with Daniel Blank, the guy who
was in that Pennsylvania hotel room with him and Michelle Zazhkoh,
who was the person of interest in the double murder
of Michelle's parents.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
That's just the beginnings of this.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
It sounds like police said the numbers of this Zizian
group could high, could number as high as thirty. They
appear to be almost exclusively young men who are transitioning
to women, is the right way to say it, who
are both math and computer whizzes. Some of them worked
at NASA, some of them worked at Google, most of
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them worked on Wall Street at some point. And they
gather around this ziz person. They said they believe in
the same eccentric and arcane blend of Silicon Valley rationalist
movement theories and animal rights.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
So they got him.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Do I would Jacob hit to that other microphone over there,
because Kean is asking me a question and she's.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Oh, I got it, Yeah there it is? Now, yeah cool?
Would you like your Jeffardy?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Now?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I would like that Jeffrey question.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
So an American president for one.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Thousand, one thousand dollars the.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
First GI Bill, which gave military men and women access
to a college education was signed into law by this
president gi Bill.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Kennedy. Now was it Franklin Roosevelt. It's farther back.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Okay, I'll accept that it is time for us to
talk about the TVs and the movies and all of
that stuff coming up.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
The following program is brought to you in living color,
but you're watching in that. Americans love television. They win
their kids USA television.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Matt, you've been watching too many of those live television shows.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Well, we're in the middle of watching a couple of
shows right now. That's kind of how we do it.
I don't know how everybody else does it. We have
two shows and we'll watch maybe one episode of each
per night, depending on what time we start watching TV, etc.
Right now, we are in The Pit, The Pit on
Max And if you remember E all that was really
at the time that R was made was a pretty gritty,
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we thought, realistic look at what goes on in emergency room.
Some of the same people who are involved in ER
have put together The Pit and it stars Noah Wiley,
of course, as the lead doctor in this emergency room
in Pittsburgh. Executive produced, of course by John Wells, who
did er. He also directed the pilot episode and will
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direct the season finale. Noah Wiley is Michael Rabinovich knows
known as Doctor Robbie, leads this staff of doctors, et cetera.
One of the things about it is that it is
apparently real. I mean, doctors have come forward and said
every time they turn this thing on, there's a pang
of recognition at the chaos, at the desperate faces of
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people that are sitting in the waiting room. The other
show that we're watching right now is Night Agent season two.
I'm not yawning, you're yawning. I'm not quite as excited
about this one as I was the first one. But
they still do a good job following a secret agent
in some program called Knight Agent, which doesn't really exist,
but is hopefully going to stop the terrorist attack before
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it happens.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I think they will. The Trio of Trailers is up
for you to check out.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Devil in the Family is about the documentary that's been
ordered by Hulu, the Fall of Ruby Frankie's Family. Pedro
Pascal in this nineteen eighties anthology for Freaky Tales, they
said it blows in like a breath of fresh air
a gonzo descent into the very weirdo underbelly of nineteen
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eighty seven. Yeah, although Pedro Pascal more common or more
recently known for the Last of Us and then Until Dawn,
inspired by a video game of the same name from
ten years ago, they have Until Dawn. Doctor Hill, the
psychiatrist from the original game, warns the friend group of
the place stuck in time, and he says, up the road,
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that's where people get into trouble. So those three trailers
are up on the website and we've been asking what
it is that you have been watching on the for
what you're watching Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Let me try that.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Hey, Gary, there's a show on Netflix called You Can't
Ask That. It's a really great show dives into a
whole bunch of personal issues. I really suggest it. It's
a watch for everybody. I doesn't mind sign it out.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Thanks Mike. Yeah, I had to look this up. I
hadn't heard about it before.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
It's an Australian TV show similar to The People Who
Brought You Love on the Spectrum, but this is You
Can't Ask That, and it's asking people they say in
uh specific communities about things that you're not supposed to
ask them. If you ask a dwarf, for example, or
a little person, what is your preferred term?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Do you do?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
You go by dwarf? Do you go by midget? And
the guy says, I go by Blake. That's my name.
So there's four seasons of that on Netflix right now.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Hey, Garyan Shannon without the Shannon, what's the course? Like
King Karrently and Irvine. What I was watching was a
movie called thirty one. It's basically a Star Trek movie,
the newest one about a secret division of Starfleet aka
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thirty one, and there tasks with saving the universe. It's
a good one.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Section thirty one I think is officially what it's called,
and it is that you can find I believe on Paramount.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Hi, guys, Terry and Linda and Apple Valley. We have
been watching a new show called Doc. It's about a
doctor that has an accident and forgets the last the
past eight years of her life and there's you know,
just drama with medical and her previous marriage.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
It's pretty interesting. Give it a try. Yeah, that one.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I've also seen the ads for that one, but we
haven't picked that one up yet. My wife will probably
like it. She likes the hospital drama. She's like I said,
the pit is one of the ones that we're watching
right now.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Gary, love the show. Miss Shannon Bill out you kaipa.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Hey Belle, just want to let you.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Know for what you watch on Wednesday. I've been watching Severance,
just started season two. Oh yeah, it's a little weird,
but I can't stop watching.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
A little show. Take care. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
The Severance on Apple TV season one was really well done.
Like I mean, it was a creative, weird version of
almost like a Twilight Zone episode that was stretched out
into a full season.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Uh, it is really good. So I haven't checked the
second season out yet.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
It took me wait too long to get on the
yellow Stone boat.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
But now that I have, it's wrecking my life.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Yeah I know, actually canceling me so I could watch
another episode. Oh my gosh, what the heck?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, yellow brilliant.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
The only thing that would have made a Yellowstone batter
is if they had left Kevin Costner in place. I
mean that second half of the fifth season. That was
too bad that he was gone.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
This is Steve from Rancho. I've been watching Designated Survivor
on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Oh, great show. Didn't realize it was on Netflix.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
That was the old key for Sutherland becomes the president
after almost the entire cabinet is killed in a terrorist attack,
and he's got to he's got to fight back. So
that's a good one as well. All of the trailers,
by the way up on the website. Go to KFIAM
six forty dot com slash Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Hey Gary, Yeah, where's the White Lady? You suck man?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
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AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. We mentioned this that we're even
closer to spring training. Cubs and Dodgers will play tomorrow
in Glendale, Arizona. They're kicking off the spring schedule because
of course they then go to Japan. They're playing in
Tokyo in the middle of next month. The first two
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regular season games will actually be played a couple of
weeks before the rest of the regular season starts, so
they get to get a head start on all of this.
And during the Grapefruit League and Cactus League seasons this spring,
they're going to be using an automated ball strike system.
It will be in place, they said, for roughly sixty
percent of spring training games. It's in I believe thirteen
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stadiums in both Florida and Arizona, and the MLB is
going to use this spring training to figure out whether
the system would be suitable for Major League They won't
even if it works, they're not putting it in place
for the twenty twenty five regular season. Speaking of which
the Chargers opened the football season. They will be opening
September fifth, in Salth Paulo, Brazil. They announced that this morning.
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They have not yet named the opponent, but we do
know that the Chargers will be listed as the home
team for the game, part of the NFL's return to
sal Polo, after the Eagles and Packers squared off there
to open last season.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
What else is going on? Time for what's happening?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Well, the winter storm that has rolled through this central
and eastern parts of the United States is as cold
as promised.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
That storm brought eleven inches of snow to Missouri, eight
inches to Kansas, more than two inches to Oklahoma. My
daughter in Central Texas said it was snowing there this
morning and it's somewhere around seventeen degrees if you can
believe it. Snow is falling in Tupelo, Mississippi. Nashville, Tennessee.
Schools in Nashville closed today because of the amount of snow.
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Many cities recorded record low temperatures twenty five below in
Rapid City, South Dakota, fifteen below in Billings, Montana, a
single digit, a single degree in Wichita, Kansas, and the
low in Oklahoma City was two degrees. The USDA is
going to be trying to hire back its bird flu experts.
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USDA has been trying to rehire these experts the agency
accidentally fired as part of their efforts to cut costs
based on the recommendations from the Department of Government Efficiency.
The agency added that several types of workers, including vets
and some other emergency response personnel, had been exempted from
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job cuts so they could continue to work on bird
flu efforts, and the agency says it continues to prioritize
the response to highly pathogenic avian influenza. This has been
a pretty common thing over the last several days where
these agencies get recommens from the Department of Government Efficiency,
they fire everybody, and then they go, oops, not you guys,
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But then they have a hard time finding the you
guys because they don't have contact information for them or whatever.
Five men have been arrested in connection with a murder
for higher plot in San Bernardino involving the wife of
one of the suspects, which resulted in her death. She
was Yesenia Torres, known by her friends as Jessica, shot
(03:27):
to death on January tenth in the parking lot of
Burger Point on Mills Street. She was walking out of
the restaurant to her car. She was approached by a
gunman who chased her around the car before he shot
at her. They said, initially it looked like a robbery,
but the further investigation revealed it was a calculated murdered plot.
The You know how dangerous picnics can be, right, Well,
(03:51):
officials in San Clementi are considering a crackdown on unpermitted
picnicking and other types of outdoor food and drink consumption.
It would apply to all city property if passed. It
mainly targets North Beach there in San Clementy. Official said
regular unpermitted gatherings often leave the area trashed. The guy
(04:12):
who announced it proposed the bill. Rick Loffler, the council member,
has argued that the unregulated distribution of food and drinks
in public is both dangerous and is destructive. Well, if
you were outside early this morning, you may have seen
or heard the latest ICBM test at Vandenberg Space Force.
(04:32):
Space Guardians launched an unmanned minute Man two ICBM equipped
with a single telemeter joint test assembly re entry vehicle.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
From Vandenburg over in Santa Barbara County.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
It's primary testing ground for the Air Force Global Strike
Commands ICBM deterrent infrastructure. Three hundred tests have been conducted
in the past. The three hundred and seventy seventh Test
and Evaluation Group, located at Vanderburgh, is the only dedicated
ICBM test organis station that runs tests that measure both
the current and the future capabilities of the ICBM force.
(05:06):
And Gavin Newsom has yet another plan to try to
bring some mortgage relief for disaster victims here in California. Today,
he announced her proposal for one hundred and twenty five
million dollar program geared at helping wildfire victims, for homeowners
whose homes were destroyed or damaged, who are at risk
(05:26):
of foreclosures, and the natural disaster that dates back to
twenty twenty three, so that means not just the Palisades
and Eating fires, but also the Park Fire Franklin fire
as well. The package would use existing mortgage settlement funding,
meaning it would not have an impact on the proposed
twenty five to twenty six budget for the state. Yesterday
(05:48):
we told you about this Ziz group, the one with
the Bay Area ties. They've been linked to at least
six killings and now they picked up Jack or Zizz
as he goes by. Now we'll talk about this militant
vegan transgender cult. You're not a member of that, you know.
You don't check enough of those boxes, some of them,
(06:11):
but not enough.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
One just to being a vegan. That's it. Militant. No,
I'm not militant. No, you listen to John Cobelt too much.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I'm not well where else am I going to get
my information from. So this cult, this weird militant vegan
transgender cult, may have come to an end.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yesterday.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
When I told you about it, we didn't know that
the leader had been arrested. But Jack Lisota, who goes
by Zizz and uses female pronouns, was arrested alongside an
accomplice in Maryland just on Monday.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
But it starts a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Up in Alaska, Jack Lesoda was a pretty well regarded
tech genius undergraduate degree in computer science from the University
of Alaska, interned with NASA, wrote a puzzle game called
Dystheism before he moved to the Bay Area in twenty
sixteen to work in tech, and one of the things
(07:14):
that he was most involved with, or at least most
maybe concerned about was the progress of artificial intelligence. And
he was one of those guys who thought that AI
would destroy humanity, or I should say, will destroy humanity,
and joined a bunch of what they call rationalists in
Berkeley when he moved to the Bay Area. And these
(07:39):
rationalists often tried to kind of figure out what makes
humanity work.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
They try to understand human cognition, and.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Part of that, an offshoot of that is the belief
that AI will destroy humanity. So Jack Lesoda starts a
blog post and talks about living in communal homes while
in and around the Bay Area, specifically Berkeley. They moved
into a split level house together that Jack and some
other people in South Berkeley grad students, tech workers, bohemian people,
(08:18):
Bay Area people also loosely interested in that theory of
rationalism and AI safety. About twenty sixteen, Jack started publishing
his philosophical musings using the name Ziz and going by
the pronoun Her and She and wrote things like, unfortunately
(08:42):
you are not as smart as you and are as
easily tricked. In order not to be tricked, you need
to use your full deliberative brain power you and you
need to fuse my head already hurts. Instead of attending
sessions on math and computers in some of these Machine
(09:03):
Intelligence Research Institute at the Center for Applied Rationality, he
would pull people aside pitch ideas, engage in these intense
conversations about rationalism, about human cognition, about AI, insisting that
the Machine Intelligence Research Institute should use the hemisphere theory
as the rubric for whom to hire. In November of
(09:25):
twenty nineteen, some sort of a religious group had descended
upon Westminster Woods.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Oh my gosh, I know where that was. I went
to camp there a couple times.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Westminster Woods a two hundred acre property along the Bohemian
Highway north of Occidental, and Jacklesoda and some of his
group were showing up for the group's annual retreat including
team building and ropes courses, and they blocked the event
and they spoke on walkie talkies. They wore those guy
(09:58):
Fawkes masks from V.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
For Vendetta or Vendetta.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The flyers said trans women were being discriminated against despite
being naturally inclined in mental tech development. Deputies called in
swat teams in an armored vehicle to get them out
of there. While they arrested the four demonstrators. They would
also be charged criminal counts, including conspiracy obstructing an officer. Well,
(10:27):
that was November of twenty nineteen. There was a strange
story a few years later. Jack's Jack Sorry, was on
a boat in August of twenty two. The Coastguard got
a call that someone had gone overboard in the San
(10:47):
Francisco Bay area. Jack's sister, Naomi, and another person who
were at that Westminster Woods protest said that they had
been on Jack's boat when he fell in the water
about eleven o'clock while working on the motor. Coastguard searched
for hours in the fifty five degree water. They informed
(11:08):
Naomi that it had been several hours. Nobody was found
and the chances of survival had expired. No death certificate issued,
an obituary showed up in the Alaska newspaper. Tributes flooded in.
Jack was dead. One of the co defendants in that
protest was missing. The two remaining defendants from the protest
(11:31):
continued fighting the charges. But all of this was strange
because a few weeks later, one of those protesters was
killed and the person that was with them at the
protest was charged with murder. That was the beginning of
the weirdness in this case, because by the way Jack
(11:52):
fell over, the boat was declared dead not dead, in
the early morning hours of no November twenty second, sorry
November of twenty two. This would have been a few
months after the boating accident. A Valeo landlord was lured
to one of his tenants trailers to fix a water leak.
This eighty year old guy he rented space to several
(12:14):
young people who were simply living in box trucks and
vans on his property. He said they were initially friendly,
but they were unconventional. He would see him around the
yard dressed in black. All of them, he said, were
men transitioning to women COVID hits. They stopped paying rent.
(12:38):
He takes them to court for back rent. One of
them takes out a pocket knife threatens him, so he
began carrying a gun. During one of these confrontations, when
he thought he was out there simply to fix a leak,
someone pulls a sword on him, so he shoots and
kills one of these people. It was determined to be
(13:01):
self defense, so he was never charged. But the other
people who started the fight, who are renting space from
this landlord in Vallejo. They were charged with murder because
they were involved in the fight that ended with this
guy shooting in self defense. Oh and by the way,
Jack Zizz still not dead. I'll explain more about these
(13:24):
Zizians and this weird militant vegan trans cult and the.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Murders that they're associated with.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
President Trump is throwing the Senate Republican budget plan into turmoil.
Republican senators voted to begin work on a three hundred
and forty billion dollar plan focused on funding the White
House's deportations and border security, but Trump criticized the approach.
He sided instead with the House Republicans version of the budget.
(13:51):
It would include four and a half trillion dollars in
tax cuts and some other priorities. Senators wanted to address
those later in a second package, so JD. Vance been
sent over to the Capital to try to work out
some of those details we're telling you about Jack Lesota,
Jack Almadeus Lesota, who for all intents and purposes, is
(14:13):
being credited with or blamed for starting a group of Zizians,
a vegan, transgender militant group that is now connected to
multiple murders and deaths. So he's a computer programmer, hates Ai,
loves the theory of rationalism, talking about human cognition. In
(14:38):
twenty nineteen, was involved in a protest up outside of Occidental,
where he was arrested, charged many times with different accounts,
and the SWAT team actually had to go in and
rescue people who were basically being held there kidnapped against
their will. In twenty twenty two. In August of twenty two,
(15:00):
his own sister reported that he had fallen overboard in
the San Francisco Bay area. They were out on a
boat late at night. He went to go fix the
motor and then went into the water.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Well.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
After a day of searching, the coastguard said, no, he's gone.
No chance of him surviving the fifty five degree weather.
In November of twenty twenty two, just a couple of
months later, one of the landlords that was renting just
literally a lot to some of these Zizzy and cult
members who were living in box trucks and vans, he
(15:32):
was attacked by a group of them. They had stopped
paying rent during COVID, and he went to go collect
started wearing a gun because he knew that they were threatening,
they attacked him.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
He woke up with a sword.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Sticking out of his chest, pulls out a gun and
starts shooting, ended up killing one of the persons. Prosecutors
later charged the survivors of that group with murder under
the theory that it was their acts that directly cause
the landlord to shoot in self defense. That was November
of twenty two. In January of twenty three. Oh and,
(16:09):
by the way, remember the fact that Jack Lisota Ziz
was supposedly dead after falling overboard. He was at that
lot the night that the landlord shot and killed somebody.
He was interviewed by of Valeo police. A couple months later,
January of twenty three, Pennsylvania State troopers go to a
(16:29):
home for a welfare check and they find the bodies
of Richard and Rita Zazko. They determined the couple, which
happened to be parents of Michelle Zazko, had been killed
in their home a few days before that. Guests whom
Michelle Zazko is friends with, Yeah, this Jack Lisoda Ziz person.
(16:50):
A couple of weeks later, as they investigate their tracking
down the daughter, they find not only the daughter, but
Jack Lsoda Ziz. They said that they encountered Les Soda
and a second person, a guy named Daniel Blank. Blank
did what he was supposed to, put his hands upon
his back, walked away. Ziz laid on the ground and
(17:11):
pretended to be unconscious. According to cops, he had to
be carried out. So this Jacklsoda now and facing active
warrants in the state of California from the protest and
in Pennsylvania for the connection potentially to the murders of
this couple nowhere to be found.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
In Valao.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Let's go back to that case because the landlord was
about to take part in the trial of these two
guys on murder chargers. Remember, the landlord shot in self defense,
but the two guys were charged with starting the fight
that ended in the death. Oh he was stabbed to
death in the middle of the street and his throat
slashed just before the trial was supposed to start. That
(18:01):
was January sixteenth. On January twentieth this year, federal agents
stopped a blue Prius on a highway near the Canadian
border in Vermont. Inside were two more people with ties
to this Zizzy and cult leader. Two people Felix Buckholt
(18:26):
went by the name Ophelia and Teresa Young Blute, a
twenty one year old computer science student. She had applied
for a license in Washington State to marry someone with
whom she attended an elite private high school in Seattle.
They had been watching these two for days after an
employee at their hotel reported them because they looked weird,
(18:47):
all black tac clothing, tactical style clothing, and because this
guy was walking around with a gon in a holster
on his hip.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
When they were stopped on the highway.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Ermann, guy gets out, pulls out a handgun, shoots at
the border agents. One of them shoots back. They kill
both Felix, Ophelia Buckholt and one of the border agents,
and they injure the twenty one year old and they
that goes to her to her arrest, and they find
all kinds of stuff in there, tactical gear, ballistic helmet,
(19:22):
night vision device, face respirators, two way radios, hollow point bullets.
They also found her journal, which according to prosecutors, contained
cipher text and writings about her psychedelic experiences. That was
January twentieth of this year, just two days ago. He
(19:43):
was taken into custody with Daniel Blank, the guy who
was in that Pennsylvania hotel room with him and Michelle Zazhkoh,
who was the person of interest in the double murder
of Michelle's parents.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
That's just the beginnings of this.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
It sounds like police said the numbers of this Zizian
group could high, could number as high as thirty. They
appear to be almost exclusively young men who are transitioning
to women, is the right way to say it, who
are both math and computer whizzes. Some of them worked
at NASA, some of them worked at Google, most of
(20:23):
them worked on Wall Street at some point. And they
gather around this ziz person. They said they believe in
the same eccentric and arcane blend of Silicon Valley rationalist
movement theories and animal rights.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
So they got him.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Do I would Jacob hit to that other microphone over there,
because Kean is asking me a question and she's.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Oh, I got it, Yeah there it is? Now, yeah cool?
Would you like your Jeffardy?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Now?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I would like that Jeffrey question.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
So an American president for one.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Thousand, one thousand dollars the.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
First GI Bill, which gave military men and women access
to a college education was signed into law by this
president gi Bill.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Kennedy. Now was it Franklin Roosevelt. It's farther back.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Okay, I'll accept that it is time for us to
talk about the TVs and the movies and all of
that stuff coming up.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
The following program is brought to you in living color,
but you're watching in that. Americans love television. They win
their kids USA television.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Matt, you've been watching too many of those live television shows.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Well, we're in the middle of watching a couple of
shows right now. That's kind of how we do it.
I don't know how everybody else does it. We have
two shows and we'll watch maybe one episode of each
per night, depending on what time we start watching TV, etc.
Right now, we are in The Pit, The Pit on
Max And if you remember E all that was really
at the time that R was made was a pretty gritty,
(22:05):
we thought, realistic look at what goes on in emergency room.
Some of the same people who are involved in ER
have put together The Pit and it stars Noah Wiley,
of course, as the lead doctor in this emergency room
in Pittsburgh. Executive produced, of course by John Wells, who
did er. He also directed the pilot episode and will
(22:26):
direct the season finale. Noah Wiley is Michael Rabinovich knows
known as Doctor Robbie, leads this staff of doctors, et cetera.
One of the things about it is that it is
apparently real. I mean, doctors have come forward and said
every time they turn this thing on, there's a pang
of recognition at the chaos, at the desperate faces of
(22:48):
people that are sitting in the waiting room. The other
show that we're watching right now is Night Agent season two.
I'm not yawning, you're yawning. I'm not quite as excited
about this one as I was the first one. But
they still do a good job following a secret agent
in some program called Knight Agent, which doesn't really exist,
but is hopefully going to stop the terrorist attack before
(23:11):
it happens.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I think they will. The Trio of Trailers is up
for you to check out.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Devil in the Family is about the documentary that's been
ordered by Hulu, the Fall of Ruby Frankie's Family. Pedro
Pascal in this nineteen eighties anthology for Freaky Tales, they
said it blows in like a breath of fresh air
a gonzo descent into the very weirdo underbelly of nineteen
(23:39):
eighty seven. Yeah, although Pedro Pascal more common or more
recently known for the Last of Us and then Until Dawn,
inspired by a video game of the same name from
ten years ago, they have Until Dawn. Doctor Hill, the
psychiatrist from the original game, warns the friend group of
the place stuck in time, and he says, up the road,
(24:00):
that's where people get into trouble. So those three trailers
are up on the website and we've been asking what
it is that you have been watching on the for
what you're watching Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Let me try that.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Hey, Gary, there's a show on Netflix called You Can't
Ask That. It's a really great show dives into a
whole bunch of personal issues. I really suggest it. It's
a watch for everybody. I doesn't mind sign it out.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Thanks Mike. Yeah, I had to look this up. I
hadn't heard about it before.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
It's an Australian TV show similar to The People Who
Brought You Love on the Spectrum, but this is You
Can't Ask That, and it's asking people they say in
uh specific communities about things that you're not supposed to
ask them. If you ask a dwarf, for example, or
a little person, what is your preferred term?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Do you do?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
You go by dwarf? Do you go by midget? And
the guy says, I go by Blake. That's my name.
So there's four seasons of that on Netflix right now.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Hey, Garyan Shannon without the Shannon, what's the course? Like
King Karrently and Irvine. What I was watching was a
movie called thirty one. It's basically a Star Trek movie,
the newest one about a secret division of Starfleet aka
(25:27):
thirty one, and there tasks with saving the universe. It's
a good one.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Section thirty one I think is officially what it's called,
and it is that you can find I believe on Paramount.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Hi, guys, Terry and Linda and Apple Valley. We have
been watching a new show called Doc. It's about a
doctor that has an accident and forgets the last the
past eight years of her life and there's you know,
just drama with medical and her previous marriage.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
It's pretty interesting. Give it a try. Yeah, that one.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I've also seen the ads for that one, but we
haven't picked that one up yet. My wife will probably
like it. She likes the hospital drama. She's like I said,
the pit is one of the ones that we're watching
right now.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Gary, love the show. Miss Shannon Bill out you kaipa.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Hey Belle, just want to let you.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Know for what you watch on Wednesday. I've been watching Severance,
just started season two. Oh yeah, it's a little weird,
but I can't stop watching.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
A little show. Take care. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
The Severance on Apple TV season one was really well done.
Like I mean, it was a creative, weird version of
almost like a Twilight Zone episode that was stretched out
into a full season.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Uh, it is really good. So I haven't checked the
second season out yet.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
It took me wait too long to get on the
yellow Stone boat.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
But now that I have, it's wrecking my life.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Yeah I know, actually canceling me so I could watch
another episode. Oh my gosh, what the heck?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, yellow brilliant.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
The only thing that would have made a Yellowstone batter
is if they had left Kevin Costner in place. I
mean that second half of the fifth season. That was
too bad that he was gone.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
This is Steve from Rancho. I've been watching Designated Survivor
on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Oh, great show. Didn't realize it was on Netflix.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
That was the old key for Sutherland becomes the president
after almost the entire cabinet is killed in a terrorist attack,
and he's got to he's got to fight back. So
that's a good one as well. All of the trailers,
by the way up on the website. Go to KFIAM
six forty dot com slash Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Hey Gary, Yeah, where's the White Lady? You suck man?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
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