May 29, 2025 • 32 mins
#WHATSHAPPENING / #STRANGESCIENCE – Capuchin monkeys are stealing howler monkey babies. Want to cut through small talk? Try asking a 'magical question'.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
At the bottom of the hour, we were talking about
weird things that people have capped, and baby teeth is
one of the weirder.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Hey Gary, Hey Shannon. My husband and I dated for
six or seven years, got married. We're in our thirties,
had babies when I was in my forties. He was
later in his forties. His mother tried to give me
his baby teeth he was forty two years old. This
is the strangest thing I've ever seen. I told her
to throw those away.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, that would be weird if you were trying to
pass them off to somebody, Like your son comes over
with his girlfriend and you're like, I got something for you.
Here they are and you hand over your son's baby teeth.
That's weird. But like a parent keeping their kids baby tooth,
I don't think that's weird.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I would do that well, and there may be a
reason for it.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Actually, baby teeth could be helpful if your children ever
need them.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Cell oh, a stem cell.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
They can go in the tooth, single stem cell, remove
some cells, some DNA and create some stem cells for
your kiddos.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
So keep those teeth.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I don't think you should be keeping anything from your
kid's bodies for medical reasons.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
But I have a scientific question there.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Sure if they need if they need stem cells from
my kid to help save my kid, where did the
kid go?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Like?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Why am I relying on teeth that came out of
their body twenty plus years ago to extract DNA?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Don't I still have a kid. If I'm trying to
say because they have.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
An infection of some sort where they need an infusion
of I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
You're asking the wrong We have any stem cells? We
are not.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
This is way way, way above many things that we are.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Next segment, there's a couple more slotted versus flathead versus
straight screwdrivers Again, the dumbest things that.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Bake the most people. That we'll do that. I can't wait.
In the meantime, what else is going on? Time for
what's happening?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
A very strange story out of Switzerland. A Swiss village
has been buried by a glacier collapsing in the Alps.
It's not a gigantic village, but three hundred people in
the Valet region live in Blatten. This is going to
be about fifty miles south of the capital of Switzerland
and Burn. They said that they were able to evacuate.
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They believe almost the entire three hundred person population, including
sheeps and cows, that were evacuated from the area of helicopters.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
It's just sheep.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I don't know stem cells, but I know sheep is
also plural.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
What did I say sheeps? I meant you're right, I
meant sheep and cows. I was pluralizing two men, any
of the things. Cows were airlifted by helicopter to get
out of this thing. But this glacier, if you haven't
seen the video, completely overwhelmed this small little town of Blatten.
There is one sixty four year old man has been
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reported missing because he's believed to have been in the
area at the time, but they're not certain if he
was caught up in it or just hasn't checked in
with anything and he.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Just went somewhere.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
All these missing people that just want to get the
hell out of places, sometimes we'll use the glacier to disappear.
Why not, Well, we are going to potentially have record
temperatures and a potential for thunderstorms over the next couple
days here in southern California. National Weather Service talked about
(03:44):
it in its forecast discussion today said dramatic warming as
expected today and tomorrow above tempts over the weekend high nineties,
even one hundred degrees. I'm kind of welcoming that after
sitting in.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
That studio so cool.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Temperature between eight and sixteen degrees above normal. Tomorrow is
expected to be the peak.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
It looks like.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Redlands, Banning, and Paris are going to have some unhealthy
air if you're a sensitive person there.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
There is a bill under consideration up in Sacramento that
would prevent Caltran's worker deaths and injuries. They say by
putting automated speed cameras in those highway construction zones. I
am in at least two construction zones every single day
in the last I don't know, year and a half.
It feels like either going to work or coming home
(04:36):
from work, and the speed limit through those work zones
is fifty five and no one gives two corny turds
about what the speed limit is. They don't slow down,
they don't And there are the digital display signs that
tell you work zone speed limit is fifty five and
then it will display your speed. And I don't know
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what people think when they drive by it and it's like, hey,
you're doing seven venty seven in a fifty five and
then it sells you to slow down, and that doesn't
They don't pay, They don't care.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
They do not care.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
If you're going seventy and a fifty, you're not going
to slow down for the sign that tells you you're
doing so, I don't think. But who knows. You love
smart children. You often bring us stories about eight year
olds that have, you know, law degrees and things of
that nature. We've got a baby Mozart in Encino, five
year old piano prodigy that will be performing at Disney
(05:28):
Concert Hall. Alec is his name, Alec Vaughan Kajudorian, and
they say he does come across as your typical Encino preschooler.
He loves video games, experimenting with cameras. A preschooler experiments
with cameras, plays video games. That's kind of an advanced
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move for a preschooler, right. Maybe he does like running
around his parents' house like your average preschooler, playing with
his little brother and the family labradoodle.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I can already tell what your face is doing when
I say the word labradoodle.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
I didn't even need to look up to know.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
But anyway, aside from the five year old stuff, he
does sit at the piano and he is a very
gifted student with a perfect pitch.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, they say he's got perfect pitch. Have you ever
met anybody that has perfect pitch?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
That?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
If I can identify music just by hearing a note,
they'll tell you what note it is.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
My cousin Danny can play piano by ear. You can
hear something and.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Play it that enna.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
That sounds pretty amazing. Yeah, that would be an incredible talent,
they said. Mom and Dad said they discovered this when
Alec was a toddler. He would hear a note and
plink it out on the piano and find the correct
key almost immediately, almost instinctively, and that by within a
year or so he was playing some pretty complicated classical
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music on the piano without ever reading sheet music.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
He's five years old and his goal is to play
at carne Gee Hall and in a couple of months
it will come true.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
And then what's the judge?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Me five?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
And being like my dream is at Carnegie Hall.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I've checked off everything on my bucket list.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I mean, and then he may have an opportunity to
meet Gustavo Dudamel. You know, this is one of those
make a wish type situations. Not that he is sick,
but John and Ken, John and Ken should could really
get They know Gustavo Dudamel. Uh huh, you know, I
know they love Gustavo Dudamel and of everything that he
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brings to the La Philharmonic are used to now he
I think didn't he go to La or didn't he
go to New York? I don't know. I have to
ask John about it. They keep Good Time. Have you
ever seen the mural they have of Gustava Good?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Is that who that is?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
It's sort of that impressionistic, So I can't they know
who it is?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Clear? Yeah, I can't tell.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
And then they have a binder filled with every La
Times article that was ever written about Gustavo Dudamel. And
I believe, if I'm not mistaken, that one binder turned
into like an entire library of binders.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Because the La Time spent so much print on Gustavo
that would explain the locked office between ours. Yeah, that's
what's in there. That's exactly right. That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
A little bit more about screwdriver gate and the magical
questions that can cut through small talk.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
As soon as tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
To immediately pause a federal court ruling that blocks many
of the president's tariffs, the US would seek emergency relief
from the US Supreme Court to avoid the irreparable national
security and economic harms at stake, According to a filing
in the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit that
came out this morning, would you.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Like your Jeopardy question? Let's do that? Talk after that
would be nice?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Oh I love hot screwdriver talk. Okay, art an artist
for four hundred dollars an artists. You can dine al
fresco before you enjoy the frescoes.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
In the Oufeezy gallery. In this country, I would have
to be what is Italy? Yes, Florence a little too easy,
I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
We were talking about things you can keep tools and
I was saying that, really, if you have a good
start with a flathead screw driver, a Phillips head, screwdriver
and a hammer.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
That's a good start, you said. It wasn't even just
a start.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You just said, I think you were speaking to me,
which makes sense, is do you know do you have
a flathead, a Philip's head and a hammer? Do you
know we're there in the house. And I said yes,
and they're in the same drawer, and you said, great, and.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
That's all you need. Didn't whine.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
But somebody chastise us for calling it a flathead when
he said it's called a straight screwdriver.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
And he's an instructor.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
He said, college law, trade school instructor, which is a.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Great level of knowledge.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I don't need that for what I do in my
home with my screwdrivers and hammer.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And because my point to you was you knew exactly
what I was talking about, right, I didn't have to
go the plus sign of the minus.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
I wouldn't have known what you meant if you said
straight screwdriver.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Hi, Garyan Channon, don't worry about what the guy said.
In my house, we call them the plus and the
minus screwdriver and it works for it.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah, okay, that's cute. I didn't care what you call it.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Gary, You are absolutely absolutely correct. I am in the
trades of an electrician for twenty years. It is a
slotted screwdriver because it's a slot that it goes into
the same with watchmakers, they have slotted screws.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
That guy doesn't.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Always talking about I hope it wasn't his student.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Oh boy, Well we don't.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Tell that guys college level instructor and that he doesn't
actually work out in the field calling it a.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Driver. Oh it's a flathead, thank you.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I'm a mechanic. Call it what it really is.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, flat hand over, educated and under and formed my own.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
You know what's funny about that guy is like when
he started talking, I could visualize him and he had
like grease on his hands, like he works for a living.
He had some grease. And then he said he was
a mechanic, and I was like, yes.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
He had to find the one clean finger out of
ten to hit the microphone button.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
They're never clean. Well that's the thing about a mechanic's hands.
You can clean them forever. They're never clean.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
My uncle was a heavy equipment mechanic like bulldozers, big
rigs and things like that, and had I mean a
million tools. That guy taught me more about tools than
I think anybody else, just in terms of, hey, go
get me the And I had no idea what he
was talking about, and I had to go find it.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Not to be a d but you know where I'm
not going to go to learn about tools college?
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Oh my gery, Shannon Jack in Texas Tomato tomato potato,
potato head or flathead?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Who cares? It's a screwdriver. It's a good point, thank you.
You know, it's a screwdriver.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
The only screws I hoard are the screws that are loose,
that are.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
In Shank Fearn's head.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
That's a lot of this girl. That's a lot of
screws that are loose.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
That's a lot of hoarding.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
That's a that's an episode.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Priya Parker is a conflict resolution facilitator. We could have
used her work here in this discussion between straight and
flathead screwdrivers, but she says she says, the way to
immediately cut through small talk in any environment, whether it's
a party with strangers or a meeting or something like that,
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is to ask what she calls magical questions.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
So the reason I brought this to the show today
is because It was the number one red article in
Apple News this morning when I happened to be looking
at the app and I thought, oh, so a lot
of people must be interested in cutting through small talk.
And I'm thinking, well, when does one get into small talk?
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And immediately my first example for me would be when
you're in the elevator with someone, and these aren't people
that you work with, because you've got things to talk
to in common that people you work with, and maybe
it's somebody on another floor or what have you. Hi,
how are you it's warm outside? Oh my gosh, that
coffee looks good. That kind of stuff, right, And if
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you don't want to engage in that, they say, try asking,
like you said this magical question. And then I'm looking
at these magical questions they speak of, and I would
think you were an insane person if you asked me
this in a small talk situation. Right, When you think
of small talk, you think it's kind of like passing by,
maybe sharing some time. Maybe you're I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I think because when I read this, I thought of
somebody who asks a question and then does that thing
where they lean in and just stare at you for
a while after do they ask a question, for example,
some of the magical What she says, what makes them
magical questions is it's something that everyone in the group
is interested in answering or or would have an answer
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to that other people might find interesting. For example, what's
the weirdest thing you've ever found in your pocket?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
How are you supposed to remember that? I've found a
lot of weird stuff in my pocket. I'm sure over
the years, I don't remember it. It's not something that
would have stuck in my head. What about a baby
tooth or something?
Speaker 4 (14:33):
What about this?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
What topic could you give a twenty minute talk on
with no preparation?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Oh, obviously, screwdrivers?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
What's a path you almost took but didn't? I really
like that?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
What topic you could give a twenty minute talk on
with no preparation? Like, that's a great question to ask
of somebody else, somebody that you don't really know that well,
because then you can find out about what they're passionate
about right away.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Well that's so, That's part of the reason she says
these are also magical questions. Is it cuts through all
of the where you're from, where'd you go to college?
What kind of work do you do, yeah, and you
find more about their actual personality, not just those other
characteristics about them. For example, she says, one of her
favorite questions is what was the first concert you went to?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
And who took you?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Because a lot of times, I mean, depending on kind
of what age range you're in, you're going to have
a lot of the same.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
The same answers.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Or you went to a concert that may have been
someone else's first it wasn't necessarily yours, but there's a
lot of crossover there, And then who they went with
or who took you could also say a lot about
their family life or their friend circle.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Or can we do a magical question for tomorrow to
ask of people and then they can let us know
and we can go through them throughout the show on
the talkback.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
You want to keep it, let's pencil that in for tomorrow. Yeah,
they're going to ask them now? Or are you going
to ask them tomorrow? Who should keep it?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Or tomorrow? There would be a there will be a
magical question till tomorrow. Yeah, and we'll go through the
answers like a magical question. Friday.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I kind of love that twenty minute talk on with
no preparation, Like what do you what's your piccadillo?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
What would yours be?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
What could you talk about twenty minutes, just off the cuff,
no preparation.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
It's the to clarify. Is it an honest talk like?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Is it a talk about It doesn't need to be
like just talking for two minutes talking about something that
you could talk about, no problem, twenty minutes go we.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Could I think you and I have a leg up
on that kind of a question anyway, because that's kind
of what we do right right.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Obviously, no knowledge, it doesn't have to be factional.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
No truth.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Okay, if I don't know, I don't know, really I
talk about.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
I have no idea. Now I'm on the spot. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Really, Yeah, I think my wife would probably be able
to answer for me, like she would go, you would
obviously talk about something, and I'd well, of course I
could do that. She probably have an answer for that
better than I would. Huh maybe old bosses.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
It's not something. It's not a gripe hour. I'd be
easy to fill twenty minutes, wouldn't it all right?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Coming up next? Why are monkeys stealing other monkeys? What
is going on? Is this a sign of the monkey.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Apocalypse, strange science when we come back, and a tooth
story by.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
The way, oh old teeth Great.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
President Trump met with Jerome Powell today. He met with
the FED Reserve chair. They discussed the economy, but not
Jerome Powell's outlook for the interest rates, at least according
to the Fed. Powell told Trump that the Central Bank
is going to make decisions about the short term interest
rate it controls based solely on the careful, objective and
non political analysis that it comes up with a big
(18:05):
rally for stocks that began in Asia, running out of
momentum today about we certainly don't know what's going to
happen next. The US court blocked many a President Trump's tariffs.
That did see some positive movement on markets across the
world today, the DAL added double digit points. I mean,
we're talking forty five, fifty sixty points. But we will
see as we get into the last few minutes of
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trading here. And then an update out of the New
York federal trial of Sean Ditty Combs, a former personal
assistant testified that Didty sexually assaulted her through her into
swimming pool, dumped a bucket of ice on her head,
and slammed her arm into a door during an eight
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alleged that he put his hand up her dress, forced
her to perform sex acts, and climbed into bed to
to have sex with her against her will. Touched on
these allegations just briefly at the start of the testimony,
and she'll probably talked about them in more detail as
things continue throughout the day.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Today, Well, we've got monkeys stealing another type of monkeys babies.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
It is a weird fat and.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
It's where we kick off strange science.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
It's like weird science, but strange monkeys.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Okay, you know the dealing monkey.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Capuchin monkeys, right, the little white faced devils.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
They're the ones that there was a capuchin sorry, capuchin
monkey that appeared I think most famously in Indiana Jones.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Yes, that was a capuchin.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
And there's also one in Righteous Gemstones, very popular in
the pet store that I used to have in my
town that I grew up in. They had a capuchin
monkey in a cage.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
It was awful.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Tell me more about this pet store. Did you frequent
this pet store?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I loved it. Yeah, because it was also a halloween store.
So in the back there were the most terrifying full
face masks and makeup and swords and gory stuff. And
in the front you could buy a hamster ball.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
What a weird mashup a halloween store slash pet store
it was. Was there also a Chinese restaurant next door?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Uh? Was around the corner? Yes, there was one, but
the capuchin monkey was up in a case. It wasn't
for sale, but the capuchin monkey was up in the
in the pedal up above the wall.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
What was his name? Remember what his name was? I
don't remember. Did you talk to the monkey?
Speaker 2 (20:41):
No, because he would screech at you and he would
slam the cage.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
I bet he was pissed. He was. It would scare you.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Well, he was living in a halloween store.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
What was your favorite animal in the pet store? The
capuchin monkey, even though I was terrified of him?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Okay, because that thing got out very different for you
taking my face off.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Man, it was probably the most exotic animal there.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Oh by far. Yeah, they have a lot of birds.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
There, birds, snakes, rabbits, hamsters, stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Well, the capuchin monkeys on a remote Panamanian island are
abducting babies from howler monkeys. They are calling it a
first of its kind trend. This is a wild population,
unlike the cage capuchin that did not sing at your
pet store in Petaluma circ. In nineteen seventy eight. The
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wild population living on Jicaron Island has been monitored with
eighty six motion cameras to capture their sophisticated use of
stone tools to crack open hard fruits and nuts and shellfish.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
It's remarkable if you see video of this.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
But five years into recording the footage they started this
in twenty seventeen, a researcher noted that one of the
young male capuchin monkeys with an infant monkey from another species.
They had that monkey clinging to its back. Now, this
capuchin monkey, nicknamed Joker, picked up at least four of
these baby howler monkeys over four months, holding on to
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them for more than a week. This captivity would last. Now,
at first, the researchers thought it was a case of
just one individual monkey who maybe is a little odd
a little different a kidnapper monkey.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
But then five months after they saw a.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Joker with the other type of monkey, four other young
male capuchins were found carrying around Hawler babies, and over
fifteen months, this group of monkeys took in eleven Haler
babies younger than four weeks old. It was like a
prime night fad or fashion. According to researchers, weird and
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like every capuchin monkey needed this designer handbag, and it
was the Haller monkey, like everyone else had one, so
why wouldn't I have one?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
So they learned from other capuchin monkeys that that was
the thing to do, right And then just there's no
footage of the thefts either.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
So maybe it's the baby Fowler monkeys that are like,
I like that capuchin monkey.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Maybe I'll go live with him.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I don't know, but they did prevent There is footage
of the kapuchins preventing the Haller babies from escaping. It
also shows heartbreakingly so the Hawler monkey parents searching and calling.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
For their babies. Oh that's awful.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
And then here's the worst part.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Well, it gets better than that, you guys, it gets
really bad. Should I just abort the story. You gotta
move on. I don't do. They kill them.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
They die, They die from malnourishment because they're not getting
the right they're not getting the mother's milk because remember
it's the male monkeys that are abducting the babies, and
the babies still need the mother's milk and they're not
getting it from the haller mother. Milk monkey monkey mother.
That's not funny. At least three howler monkey infants were
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being carried around even when they were dead.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
All right, well, let's do the old teeth stories. That
is awful. You should be shamed of yourself.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
You should have. We've teased that story for like three
days and it ended up being awful. I have an
answer to your question about what his name was.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
The store was called the Pet Stop, Yeah, and the
monkey was called Louie. Oh, so he's a famous it's
a she that was That was the irony of the
name Louis.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
But it was a female capuca named Louis.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
And whatever happened to Louise, I'm sure Louis died well,
I mean the internet. There was an article in an
old San Francisco paper from twenty five years ago that
described the store. Yeah, twenty five years ago, but the
pet store was, I mean alive and running.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I guess you could say they can live forty to
fifty years in captivity. Louie could still be alive. No, well,
how many years ago was that? Forty years ago when
they wrote the article. The pet stop had been around
for twenty six years, which far older than that. I
don't know why it says that, because it was there
as long as I was a kid, and it was
just one monkey, so it's not like she was banging
around with anyone and making baby.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
And even the.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Owner at the owner of the store when the article
was written, basically said, pets don't make great monkey. Sorry,
monkeys don't make great pets.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
So kind of.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Felt bad about Louis, and it took them took Louis
out of the store, sorry, and kept her upstairs in
a different cage so that she wasn't yelling and screaming
at the customers.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Think, oh, that's awful. That was a nice story that
turned out bad too.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
All right, old crazy teeth. When we come back to
Strange Science.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
We're going to do the show outside next week.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
I think that's the plan. It's exciting, that would be
very fun.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yes, it's going to be hot, and you think I
need to work on my basstand, which I think is funny.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well, there's a couple of reasons why you're going to
Hawaii where you're going to be partially nude, and you
have very fair skin, and so not only am I
advocating for you to just spend like fifteen to twenty
minutes out in the sun every day, like just you know,
(26:29):
read the paper.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
You know, read.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Play Candy Crush in the backyard. A lot of people
read the paper on their phone if they read, but
you're not. You know, you have a book somewhere, right.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
I do have a book. Say. All I'm saying is
go outside in your backyard.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It's beautiful for like fifteen minutes, just exposing your legs
and maybe your torso to the sun. So that number one,
you don't get sunburned when you start exposing yourself Willy
nilly and Hawaii. And number two, so you don't scare
off the townspeople with how white you are. It's for
health and for accommodating the people of Hawaii.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
A bunch of members of my family, and I guarantee
you I will not be the whitest person.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I don't care about anyone else. I care about you.
You are the problem that I have access to. And
if we can prevent you from getting a disastrous sunburn
right away, I think that that.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Would be good.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, it's a day, well like ten minutes, three times
a week. Okay, that's all just to protect yourself. Appreciate
that fledge Watch. Did you know we're in fledge Watch?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Is that a bird thing? It is?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Amy King will tell you all about it. I kind
of blacked out when she was in here the other
day with the knowledge that she had of the nest?
Can you run that back for me? So you were
also affected by her knowledge?
Speaker 5 (27:54):
I was.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I was stunned.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
I was.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
We went to her kind of like the.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Conversation started with, Hey, Amy, what's going on.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
With the bird?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Because the picture I saw looked like it was an
empty nest like this right the eagles up and big
Bear had taken off, which everybody's waiting for.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
It said something to the effect of they're still there
there in the top deck, and that's when I blacked out.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
She called it the attic, the attic of the mess
and the front porch that exists.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Listen, when we got that far, I realized we were
playing with something that we had no idea.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
It was like, oh, what does this little ball do?
And it turns out.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
It's Medusa pops up right. I just started waiting, smiling
to Amy. I was nodding, and I was just like, cool, cool, cool,
cool cool. But apparently the fledge watch kicked off on Tuesday.
It's similar to Pip Watch, where we watched closely for
(28:52):
the chicks to work their way out of their egg shells.
Remember there was a crack and then the pip and
the whole bit. So these these fledglings could fly the coop,
fly the nest anytime now. They say that fledglings from
southern California, from this area specifically, have been spotted as
(29:14):
far north as British Columbia, as far east as Yellowstone,
as far south as Baja. So these little, these little birds,
these little eaglets we've been watching, could go great distances.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Any day now, and they may never come back.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I mean literally empty nest for those for Shadow and
Steve Shadow and.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Jackie Steve why would you think Shadow Stevens the old
radio guy. But I don't know why the baby's names
are Sonny and Gizmo.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Now you're pretending to know all of this stuff. Amy
will see through your rear ruse. I know old teeth.
To bring it back to old teeth. Scientists have said
that the teeth that they have found for the colossal
megalodon is that a dinosaur. It is prehistoric predator. They
said it last lived about three point six million years ago.
(30:09):
They said, not only was it hunting large marine mammals
like whales. Hello, that's how big this megalodon was. I
think it's a giant sharky thing. But a new study
has found that instead, mineralized fossilized teeth show that the
megalodon might have been an opportunistic feeder. This thing, they said,
required about one hundred thousand calories a day.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Like it's a dinosaur. Of course, it was an opportunistic feeder.
You think it was waiting for cavir.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Well, they said it probably did feed on the very
large prey items obviously, but that's not available all the time,
and it was flexible enough to feed on smaller animals
to fulfill its dietary requirements, like it's snacked on a
smaller creature. Sure, like we all do exactly well.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Grab whatever's around if it's feeding times, especially.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
If you're on your way to meil one hundred thousand
calories a day.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
I'm getting close. I don't know what it is is.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
We're very hungry, getting pretty close.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Here comes.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
You are not hitting that grapefruit sized softball right over
the middle of the plate.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Hey, sometimes it's easier just to let it go and.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Hope because I'm still not over the slight you shared
at the start of the show.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Which one would that be? I don't remember you don't.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I complimented you when you walked in today. You get
one that doesn't tide over for the rest of the day.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
You said, why are you dressed up? Are you going
to set the building on fire? Was that a compliment?
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
The dressed up part? Oh okay, okay. I don't remember
what your slight was, but it was very creator. It hurt,
it did, but I don't remember it. Those are the
worst kind. John Cobalt Chow coming up.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Next, see you tomorrow. Stay dry, everybody, blessings. You've been
listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
At the bottom of the hour, we were talking about
weird things that people have capped, and baby teeth is
one of the weirder.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Hey Gary, Hey Shannon. My husband and I dated for
six or seven years, got married. We're in our thirties,
had babies when I was in my forties. He was
later in his forties. His mother tried to give me
his baby teeth he was forty two years old. This
is the strangest thing I've ever seen. I told her
to throw those away.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, that would be weird if you were trying to
pass them off to somebody, Like your son comes over
with his girlfriend and you're like, I got something for you.
Here they are and you hand over your son's baby teeth.
That's weird. But like a parent keeping their kids baby tooth,
I don't think that's weird.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I would do that well, and there may be a
reason for it.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Actually, baby teeth could be helpful if your children ever
need them.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Cell oh, a stem cell.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
They can go in the tooth, single stem cell, remove
some cells, some DNA and create some stem cells for
your kiddos.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
So keep those teeth.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I don't think you should be keeping anything from your
kid's bodies for medical reasons.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
But I have a scientific question there.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Sure if they need if they need stem cells from
my kid to help save my kid, where did the
kid go?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Like?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Why am I relying on teeth that came out of
their body twenty plus years ago to extract DNA?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Don't I still have a kid. If I'm trying to
say because they have.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
An infection of some sort where they need an infusion
of I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
You're asking the wrong We have any stem cells? We
are not.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
This is way way, way above many things that we are.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Next segment, there's a couple more slotted versus flathead versus
straight screwdrivers Again, the dumbest things that.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Bake the most people. That we'll do that. I can't wait.
In the meantime, what else is going on? Time for
what's happening?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
A very strange story out of Switzerland. A Swiss village
has been buried by a glacier collapsing in the Alps.
It's not a gigantic village, but three hundred people in
the Valet region live in Blatten. This is going to
be about fifty miles south of the capital of Switzerland
and Burn. They said that they were able to evacuate.
(02:38):
They believe almost the entire three hundred person population, including
sheeps and cows, that were evacuated from the area of helicopters.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
It's just sheep.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I don't know stem cells, but I know sheep is
also plural.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
What did I say sheeps? I meant you're right, I
meant sheep and cows. I was pluralizing two men, any
of the things. Cows were airlifted by helicopter to get
out of this thing. But this glacier, if you haven't
seen the video, completely overwhelmed this small little town of Blatten.
There is one sixty four year old man has been
(03:14):
reported missing because he's believed to have been in the
area at the time, but they're not certain if he
was caught up in it or just hasn't checked in
with anything and he.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Just went somewhere.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
All these missing people that just want to get the
hell out of places, sometimes we'll use the glacier to disappear.
Why not, Well, we are going to potentially have record
temperatures and a potential for thunderstorms over the next couple
days here in southern California. National Weather Service talked about
(03:44):
it in its forecast discussion today said dramatic warming as
expected today and tomorrow above tempts over the weekend high nineties,
even one hundred degrees. I'm kind of welcoming that after
sitting in.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
That studio so cool.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Temperature between eight and sixteen degrees above normal. Tomorrow is
expected to be the peak.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
It looks like.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Redlands, Banning, and Paris are going to have some unhealthy
air if you're a sensitive person there.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
There is a bill under consideration up in Sacramento that
would prevent Caltran's worker deaths and injuries. They say by
putting automated speed cameras in those highway construction zones. I
am in at least two construction zones every single day
in the last I don't know, year and a half.
It feels like either going to work or coming home
(04:36):
from work, and the speed limit through those work zones
is fifty five and no one gives two corny turds
about what the speed limit is. They don't slow down,
they don't And there are the digital display signs that
tell you work zone speed limit is fifty five and
then it will display your speed. And I don't know
(04:56):
what people think when they drive by it and it's like, hey,
you're doing seven venty seven in a fifty five and
then it sells you to slow down, and that doesn't
They don't pay, They don't care.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
They do not care.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
If you're going seventy and a fifty, you're not going
to slow down for the sign that tells you you're
doing so, I don't think. But who knows. You love
smart children. You often bring us stories about eight year
olds that have, you know, law degrees and things of
that nature. We've got a baby Mozart in Encino, five
year old piano prodigy that will be performing at Disney
(05:28):
Concert Hall. Alec is his name, Alec Vaughan Kajudorian, and
they say he does come across as your typical Encino preschooler.
He loves video games, experimenting with cameras. A preschooler experiments
with cameras, plays video games. That's kind of an advanced
(05:49):
move for a preschooler, right. Maybe he does like running
around his parents' house like your average preschooler, playing with
his little brother and the family labradoodle.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I can already tell what your face is doing when
I say the word labradoodle.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
I didn't even need to look up to know.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
But anyway, aside from the five year old stuff, he
does sit at the piano and he is a very
gifted student with a perfect pitch.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, they say he's got perfect pitch. Have you ever
met anybody that has perfect pitch?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
That?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
If I can identify music just by hearing a note,
they'll tell you what note it is.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
My cousin Danny can play piano by ear. You can
hear something and.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Play it that enna.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
That sounds pretty amazing. Yeah, that would be an incredible talent,
they said. Mom and Dad said they discovered this when
Alec was a toddler. He would hear a note and
plink it out on the piano and find the correct
key almost immediately, almost instinctively, and that by within a
year or so he was playing some pretty complicated classical
(06:53):
music on the piano without ever reading sheet music.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
He's five years old and his goal is to play
at carne Gee Hall and in a couple of months
it will come true.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
And then what's the judge?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Me five?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
And being like my dream is at Carnegie Hall.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I've checked off everything on my bucket list.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I mean, and then he may have an opportunity to
meet Gustavo Dudamel. You know, this is one of those
make a wish type situations. Not that he is sick,
but John and Ken, John and Ken should could really
get They know Gustavo Dudamel. Uh huh, you know, I
know they love Gustavo Dudamel and of everything that he
(07:32):
brings to the La Philharmonic are used to now he
I think didn't he go to La or didn't he
go to New York? I don't know. I have to
ask John about it. They keep Good Time. Have you
ever seen the mural they have of Gustava Good?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Is that who that is?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
It's sort of that impressionistic, So I can't they know
who it is?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Clear? Yeah, I can't tell.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
And then they have a binder filled with every La
Times article that was ever written about Gustavo Dudamel. And
I believe, if I'm not mistaken, that one binder turned
into like an entire library of binders.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Because the La Time spent so much print on Gustavo
that would explain the locked office between ours. Yeah, that's
what's in there. That's exactly right. That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
A little bit more about screwdriver gate and the magical
questions that can cut through small talk.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
As soon as tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
To immediately pause a federal court ruling that blocks many
of the president's tariffs, the US would seek emergency relief
from the US Supreme Court to avoid the irreparable national
security and economic harms at stake, According to a filing
in the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit that
came out this morning, would you.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Like your Jeopardy question? Let's do that? Talk after that
would be nice?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Oh I love hot screwdriver talk. Okay, art an artist
for four hundred dollars an artists. You can dine al
fresco before you enjoy the frescoes.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
In the Oufeezy gallery. In this country, I would have
to be what is Italy? Yes, Florence a little too easy,
I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
We were talking about things you can keep tools and
I was saying that, really, if you have a good
start with a flathead screw driver, a Phillips head, screwdriver
and a hammer.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
That's a good start, you said. It wasn't even just
a start.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You just said, I think you were speaking to me,
which makes sense, is do you know do you have
a flathead, a Philip's head and a hammer? Do you
know we're there in the house. And I said yes,
and they're in the same drawer, and you said, great, and.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
That's all you need. Didn't whine.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
But somebody chastise us for calling it a flathead when
he said it's called a straight screwdriver.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
And he's an instructor.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
He said, college law, trade school instructor, which is a.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Great level of knowledge.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I don't need that for what I do in my
home with my screwdrivers and hammer.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And because my point to you was you knew exactly
what I was talking about, right, I didn't have to
go the plus sign of the minus.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
I wouldn't have known what you meant if you said
straight screwdriver.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Hi, Garyan Channon, don't worry about what the guy said.
In my house, we call them the plus and the
minus screwdriver and it works for it.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah, okay, that's cute. I didn't care what you call it.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Gary, You are absolutely absolutely correct. I am in the
trades of an electrician for twenty years. It is a
slotted screwdriver because it's a slot that it goes into
the same with watchmakers, they have slotted screws.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
That guy doesn't.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Always talking about I hope it wasn't his student.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Oh boy, Well we don't.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Tell that guys college level instructor and that he doesn't
actually work out in the field calling it a.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Driver. Oh it's a flathead, thank you.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I'm a mechanic. Call it what it really is.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, flat hand over, educated and under and formed my own.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
You know what's funny about that guy is like when
he started talking, I could visualize him and he had
like grease on his hands, like he works for a living.
He had some grease. And then he said he was
a mechanic, and I was like, yes.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
He had to find the one clean finger out of
ten to hit the microphone button.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
They're never clean. Well that's the thing about a mechanic's hands.
You can clean them forever. They're never clean.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
My uncle was a heavy equipment mechanic like bulldozers, big
rigs and things like that, and had I mean a
million tools. That guy taught me more about tools than
I think anybody else, just in terms of, hey, go
get me the And I had no idea what he
was talking about, and I had to go find it.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Not to be a d but you know where I'm
not going to go to learn about tools college?
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Oh my gery, Shannon Jack in Texas Tomato tomato potato,
potato head or flathead?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Who cares? It's a screwdriver. It's a good point, thank you.
You know, it's a screwdriver.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
The only screws I hoard are the screws that are loose,
that are.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
In Shank Fearn's head.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
That's a lot of this girl. That's a lot of
screws that are loose.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
That's a lot of hoarding.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
That's a that's an episode.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Priya Parker is a conflict resolution facilitator. We could have
used her work here in this discussion between straight and
flathead screwdrivers, but she says she says, the way to
immediately cut through small talk in any environment, whether it's
a party with strangers or a meeting or something like that,
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is to ask what she calls magical questions.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
So the reason I brought this to the show today
is because It was the number one red article in
Apple News this morning when I happened to be looking
at the app and I thought, oh, so a lot
of people must be interested in cutting through small talk.
And I'm thinking, well, when does one get into small talk?
(13:09):
And immediately my first example for me would be when
you're in the elevator with someone, and these aren't people
that you work with, because you've got things to talk
to in common that people you work with, and maybe
it's somebody on another floor or what have you. Hi,
how are you it's warm outside? Oh my gosh, that
coffee looks good. That kind of stuff, right, And if
(13:30):
you don't want to engage in that, they say, try asking,
like you said this magical question. And then I'm looking
at these magical questions they speak of, and I would
think you were an insane person if you asked me
this in a small talk situation. Right, When you think
of small talk, you think it's kind of like passing by,
maybe sharing some time. Maybe you're I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I think because when I read this, I thought of
somebody who asks a question and then does that thing
where they lean in and just stare at you for
a while after do they ask a question, for example,
some of the magical What she says, what makes them
magical questions is it's something that everyone in the group
is interested in answering or or would have an answer
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to that other people might find interesting. For example, what's
the weirdest thing you've ever found in your pocket?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
How are you supposed to remember that? I've found a
lot of weird stuff in my pocket. I'm sure over
the years, I don't remember it. It's not something that
would have stuck in my head. What about a baby
tooth or something?
Speaker 4 (14:33):
What about this?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
What topic could you give a twenty minute talk on
with no preparation?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Oh, obviously, screwdrivers?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
What's a path you almost took but didn't? I really
like that?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
What topic you could give a twenty minute talk on
with no preparation? Like, that's a great question to ask
of somebody else, somebody that you don't really know that well,
because then you can find out about what they're passionate
about right away.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Well that's so, That's part of the reason she says
these are also magical questions. Is it cuts through all
of the where you're from, where'd you go to college?
What kind of work do you do, yeah, and you
find more about their actual personality, not just those other
characteristics about them. For example, she says, one of her
favorite questions is what was the first concert you went to?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
And who took you?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Because a lot of times, I mean, depending on kind
of what age range you're in, you're going to have
a lot of the same.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
The same answers.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Or you went to a concert that may have been
someone else's first it wasn't necessarily yours, but there's a
lot of crossover there, And then who they went with
or who took you could also say a lot about
their family life or their friend circle.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Or can we do a magical question for tomorrow to
ask of people and then they can let us know
and we can go through them throughout the show on
the talkback.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
You want to keep it, let's pencil that in for tomorrow. Yeah,
they're going to ask them now? Or are you going
to ask them tomorrow? Who should keep it?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Or tomorrow? There would be a there will be a
magical question till tomorrow. Yeah, and we'll go through the
answers like a magical question. Friday.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I kind of love that twenty minute talk on with
no preparation, Like what do you what's your piccadillo?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
What would yours be?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
What could you talk about twenty minutes, just off the cuff,
no preparation.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
It's the to clarify. Is it an honest talk like?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Is it a talk about It doesn't need to be
like just talking for two minutes talking about something that
you could talk about, no problem, twenty minutes go we.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Could I think you and I have a leg up
on that kind of a question anyway, because that's kind
of what we do right right.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Obviously, no knowledge, it doesn't have to be factional.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
No truth.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Okay, if I don't know, I don't know, really I
talk about.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
I have no idea. Now I'm on the spot. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Really, Yeah, I think my wife would probably be able
to answer for me, like she would go, you would
obviously talk about something, and I'd well, of course I
could do that. She probably have an answer for that
better than I would. Huh maybe old bosses.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
It's not something. It's not a gripe hour. I'd be
easy to fill twenty minutes, wouldn't it all right?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Coming up next? Why are monkeys stealing other monkeys? What
is going on? Is this a sign of the monkey.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Apocalypse, strange science when we come back, and a tooth
story by.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
The way, oh old teeth Great.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
President Trump met with Jerome Powell today. He met with
the FED Reserve chair. They discussed the economy, but not
Jerome Powell's outlook for the interest rates, at least according
to the Fed. Powell told Trump that the Central Bank
is going to make decisions about the short term interest
rate it controls based solely on the careful, objective and
non political analysis that it comes up with a big
(18:05):
rally for stocks that began in Asia, running out of
momentum today about we certainly don't know what's going to
happen next. The US court blocked many a President Trump's tariffs.
That did see some positive movement on markets across the
world today, the DAL added double digit points. I mean,
we're talking forty five, fifty sixty points. But we will
see as we get into the last few minutes of
(18:27):
trading here. And then an update out of the New
York federal trial of Sean Ditty Combs, a former personal
assistant testified that Didty sexually assaulted her through her into
swimming pool, dumped a bucket of ice on her head,
and slammed her arm into a door during an eight
year tenure that she worked for him. She testified today
(18:47):
at the sex trafficking trial under a pseudonym. She had
alleged that he put his hand up her dress, forced
her to perform sex acts, and climbed into bed to
to have sex with her against her will. Touched on
these allegations just briefly at the start of the testimony,
and she'll probably talked about them in more detail as
things continue throughout the day.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Today, Well, we've got monkeys stealing another type of monkeys babies.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
It is a weird fat and.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
It's where we kick off strange science.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
It's like weird science, but strange monkeys.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Okay, you know the dealing monkey.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Capuchin monkeys, right, the little white faced devils.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
They're the ones that there was a capuchin sorry, capuchin
monkey that appeared I think most famously in Indiana Jones.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Yes, that was a capuchin.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
And there's also one in Righteous Gemstones, very popular in
the pet store that I used to have in my
town that I grew up in. They had a capuchin
monkey in a cage.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
It was awful.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Tell me more about this pet store. Did you frequent
this pet store?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I loved it. Yeah, because it was also a halloween store.
So in the back there were the most terrifying full
face masks and makeup and swords and gory stuff. And
in the front you could buy a hamster ball.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
What a weird mashup a halloween store slash pet store
it was. Was there also a Chinese restaurant next door?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Uh? Was around the corner? Yes, there was one, but
the capuchin monkey was up in a case. It wasn't
for sale, but the capuchin monkey was up in the
in the pedal up above the wall.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
What was his name? Remember what his name was? I
don't remember. Did you talk to the monkey?
Speaker 2 (20:41):
No, because he would screech at you and he would
slam the cage.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
I bet he was pissed. He was. It would scare you.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Well, he was living in a halloween store.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
What was your favorite animal in the pet store? The
capuchin monkey, even though I was terrified of him?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Okay, because that thing got out very different for you
taking my face off.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Man, it was probably the most exotic animal there.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Oh by far. Yeah, they have a lot of birds.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
There, birds, snakes, rabbits, hamsters, stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Well, the capuchin monkeys on a remote Panamanian island are
abducting babies from howler monkeys. They are calling it a
first of its kind trend. This is a wild population,
unlike the cage capuchin that did not sing at your
pet store in Petaluma circ. In nineteen seventy eight. The
(21:29):
wild population living on Jicaron Island has been monitored with
eighty six motion cameras to capture their sophisticated use of
stone tools to crack open hard fruits and nuts and shellfish.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
It's remarkable if you see video of this.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
But five years into recording the footage they started this
in twenty seventeen, a researcher noted that one of the
young male capuchin monkeys with an infant monkey from another species.
They had that monkey clinging to its back. Now, this
capuchin monkey, nicknamed Joker, picked up at least four of
these baby howler monkeys over four months, holding on to
(22:09):
them for more than a week. This captivity would last. Now,
at first, the researchers thought it was a case of
just one individual monkey who maybe is a little odd
a little different a kidnapper monkey.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
But then five months after they saw a.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Joker with the other type of monkey, four other young
male capuchins were found carrying around Hawler babies, and over
fifteen months, this group of monkeys took in eleven Haler
babies younger than four weeks old. It was like a
prime night fad or fashion. According to researchers, weird and
(22:49):
like every capuchin monkey needed this designer handbag, and it
was the Haller monkey, like everyone else had one, so
why wouldn't I have one?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
So they learned from other capuchin monkeys that that was
the thing to do, right And then just there's no
footage of the thefts either.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
So maybe it's the baby Fowler monkeys that are like,
I like that capuchin monkey.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Maybe I'll go live with him.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I don't know, but they did prevent There is footage
of the kapuchins preventing the Haller babies from escaping. It
also shows heartbreakingly so the Hawler monkey parents searching and calling.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
For their babies. Oh that's awful.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
And then here's the worst part.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Well, it gets better than that, you guys, it gets
really bad. Should I just abort the story. You gotta
move on. I don't do. They kill them.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
They die, They die from malnourishment because they're not getting
the right they're not getting the mother's milk because remember
it's the male monkeys that are abducting the babies, and
the babies still need the mother's milk and they're not
getting it from the haller mother. Milk monkey monkey mother.
That's not funny. At least three howler monkey infants were
(24:08):
being carried around even when they were dead.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
All right, well, let's do the old teeth stories. That
is awful. You should be shamed of yourself.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
You should have. We've teased that story for like three
days and it ended up being awful. I have an
answer to your question about what his name was.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
The store was called the Pet Stop, Yeah, and the
monkey was called Louie. Oh, so he's a famous it's
a she that was That was the irony of the
name Louis.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
But it was a female capuca named Louis.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
And whatever happened to Louise, I'm sure Louis died well,
I mean the internet. There was an article in an
old San Francisco paper from twenty five years ago that
described the store. Yeah, twenty five years ago, but the
pet store was, I mean alive and running.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I guess you could say they can live forty to
fifty years in captivity. Louie could still be alive. No, well,
how many years ago was that? Forty years ago when
they wrote the article. The pet stop had been around
for twenty six years, which far older than that. I
don't know why it says that, because it was there
as long as I was a kid, and it was
just one monkey, so it's not like she was banging
around with anyone and making baby.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
And even the.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Owner at the owner of the store when the article
was written, basically said, pets don't make great monkey. Sorry,
monkeys don't make great pets.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
So kind of.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Felt bad about Louis, and it took them took Louis
out of the store, sorry, and kept her upstairs in
a different cage so that she wasn't yelling and screaming
at the customers.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Think, oh, that's awful. That was a nice story that
turned out bad too.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
All right, old crazy teeth. When we come back to
Strange Science.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
We're going to do the show outside next week.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
I think that's the plan. It's exciting, that would be
very fun.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yes, it's going to be hot, and you think I
need to work on my basstand, which I think is funny.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well, there's a couple of reasons why you're going to
Hawaii where you're going to be partially nude, and you
have very fair skin, and so not only am I
advocating for you to just spend like fifteen to twenty
minutes out in the sun every day, like just you know,
(26:29):
read the paper.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
You know, read.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Play Candy Crush in the backyard. A lot of people
read the paper on their phone if they read, but
you're not. You know, you have a book somewhere, right.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
I do have a book. Say. All I'm saying is
go outside in your backyard.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It's beautiful for like fifteen minutes, just exposing your legs
and maybe your torso to the sun. So that number one,
you don't get sunburned when you start exposing yourself Willy
nilly and Hawaii. And number two, so you don't scare
off the townspeople with how white you are. It's for
health and for accommodating the people of Hawaii.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
A bunch of members of my family, and I guarantee
you I will not be the whitest person.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I don't care about anyone else. I care about you.
You are the problem that I have access to. And
if we can prevent you from getting a disastrous sunburn
right away, I think that that.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Would be good.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, it's a day, well like ten minutes, three times
a week. Okay, that's all just to protect yourself. Appreciate
that fledge Watch. Did you know we're in fledge Watch?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Is that a bird thing? It is?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Amy King will tell you all about it. I kind
of blacked out when she was in here the other
day with the knowledge that she had of the nest?
Can you run that back for me? So you were
also affected by her knowledge?
Speaker 5 (27:54):
I was.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I was stunned.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
I was.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
We went to her kind of like the.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Conversation started with, Hey, Amy, what's going on.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
With the bird?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Because the picture I saw looked like it was an
empty nest like this right the eagles up and big
Bear had taken off, which everybody's waiting for.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
It said something to the effect of they're still there
there in the top deck, and that's when I blacked out.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
She called it the attic, the attic of the mess
and the front porch that exists.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Listen, when we got that far, I realized we were
playing with something that we had no idea.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
It was like, oh, what does this little ball do?
And it turns out.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
It's Medusa pops up right. I just started waiting, smiling
to Amy. I was nodding, and I was just like, cool, cool, cool,
cool cool. But apparently the fledge watch kicked off on Tuesday.
It's similar to Pip Watch, where we watched closely for
(28:52):
the chicks to work their way out of their egg shells.
Remember there was a crack and then the pip and
the whole bit. So these these fledglings could fly the coop,
fly the nest anytime now. They say that fledglings from
southern California, from this area specifically, have been spotted as
(29:14):
far north as British Columbia, as far east as Yellowstone,
as far south as Baja. So these little, these little birds,
these little eaglets we've been watching, could go great distances.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Any day now, and they may never come back.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I mean literally empty nest for those for Shadow and
Steve Shadow and.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Jackie Steve why would you think Shadow Stevens the old
radio guy. But I don't know why the baby's names
are Sonny and Gizmo.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Now you're pretending to know all of this stuff. Amy
will see through your rear ruse. I know old teeth.
To bring it back to old teeth. Scientists have said
that the teeth that they have found for the colossal
megalodon is that a dinosaur. It is prehistoric predator. They
said it last lived about three point six million years ago.
(30:09):
They said, not only was it hunting large marine mammals
like whales. Hello, that's how big this megalodon was. I
think it's a giant sharky thing. But a new study
has found that instead, mineralized fossilized teeth show that the
megalodon might have been an opportunistic feeder. This thing, they said,
required about one hundred thousand calories a day.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Like it's a dinosaur. Of course, it was an opportunistic feeder.
You think it was waiting for cavir.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Well, they said it probably did feed on the very
large prey items obviously, but that's not available all the time,
and it was flexible enough to feed on smaller animals
to fulfill its dietary requirements, like it's snacked on a
smaller creature. Sure, like we all do exactly well.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Grab whatever's around if it's feeding times, especially.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
If you're on your way to meil one hundred thousand
calories a day.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
I'm getting close. I don't know what it is is.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
We're very hungry, getting pretty close.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Here comes.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
You are not hitting that grapefruit sized softball right over
the middle of the plate.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Hey, sometimes it's easier just to let it go and.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Hope because I'm still not over the slight you shared
at the start of the show.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Which one would that be? I don't remember you don't.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I complimented you when you walked in today. You get
one that doesn't tide over for the rest of the day.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
You said, why are you dressed up? Are you going
to set the building on fire? Was that a compliment?
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
The dressed up part? Oh okay, okay. I don't remember
what your slight was, but it was very creator. It hurt,
it did, but I don't remember it. Those are the
worst kind. John Cobalt Chow coming up.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Next, see you tomorrow. Stay dry, everybody, blessings. You've been
listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
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