September 3, 2025 • 33 mins
#SWAMPWATCH – Venezuelan attack / China-Russia-NoKo Parade / Epstein. #WELLNESS: Why Trump’s Health was questioned. #PARENTING – Parenting expert shares six phrases that make kids listen to you. How parents can stop sibling rivalry before it starts.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
A reminder that on Saturday, I will be out, Tim
Conway will be out. Dean Sharp will be out at
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the twenty fifth anniversary of American Vision Windows. There's can
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coming up on the sixth, which is Saturday, from eleven
(00:52):
to three. I just mentioned the care court system. The
new numbers show that it is not bringing in anywhere
near or what they thought it was going to bring
in in terms of trying to get people who are
experiencing psychosis off the streets of California.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Big Garrett, I'm glad you're bringing up that thing about
the care of corp and use the example of the
young man in psychosis, because I have a son like
that and there was no help in the state. Even
though you got detained and was putting a.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Psych word for two weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
They never followed up with them when he got out.
So I'm glad you're bringing this up later if they
know there are parents who do care and love for their kids,
but sometimes there's just no help for their adult kids.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Thanks by Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Unfortunately, that's not a unique story. There are plenty of
people out there who are dealing with people in their
families or friends or loved ones who fit those descriptions
and they feel like they don't have any help from
the state. All Right, it's eleven o'clock, which means it's
time for swamp watch.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar,
and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lolleypops,
we got.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
The problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
The other side never quits, so what.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
So now you train the SWAT, I can imagine what
can be and be unburdened by.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
What has been. You know, Americans have always been gone.
They're not stupid.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Who have the people voting for you were not swamp Watch,
They're all countera.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
The Good Feed Store sponsored swamp Watch every day. If
you have plant tarfestiitis or other ankle or knee pain,
you can always go to the Good Feet Store. Well,
we blew up a boat that was apparently carrying drugs
in the Southern Caribbean ocean sea and the Southern Caribbean.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And uh, the United States military has been active in
those areas off the coast of Venezuela in international waters.
And President Trump did say that this boat was carrying
a boat ton of drugs and eleven trend de Aragua members.
Former acting director of the DEA, Derek Mall says, this
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is a long time coming.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
It's about time the US government stood up for Americas first,
you know, Americans first, by holding these Nauco terrorists accountable. Dana,
what people have to realize is that since like early
two thousand, first under President Chavez and then under President Maduro,
they formed this alliance with the major nauco terraces in Colombia,
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the FOK, the ELN, but they have been distributing ton
quantities of cocaine at the highest level. The corruption is
at the top of the Venezuelan government.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Secretary of State Marco Rubio said that this attack should
be clear. It's a message to Venezuela, to Colombia, to
any one of these state level narco traffic contes that
the United States isn't going to put up with it anymore.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
I think as long as those vessels are in the
region and as long as the presidents in the White House,
he's made very clear he's not going to allow the
United States to continue to be flooded with cocaine and
fentanyl and other drugs coming from different places.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
By the way, there are some allegations out there, at
least from the Venezuelans, that this was a made up
video that the president released on his truth social It's
been out in different places as well, that it was
artificial intelligence that created this thing. Pete hegg Seth, Secretary Defense,
went on interviews this morning, including Fox and Friends and
said that was absolutely not the case.
Speaker 8 (04:22):
We knew exactly what they were doing, and we knew
exactly who they represented, and that was Trendea Ragway narco
terrorist organization designated by the United States, trying to poison
our country with illicit drugs. We're not going to allow
this kind of activity. You're poisoning our people. We've got
incredible assets and they are gathering in the region, and
so you want to try to traffic drugs, it's a
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new day, it's a different day, and so those eleven
drug traffickers are no longer with US, sending a very
clear signal that this is an activity the United States
is not going to tolerate in our hemisphere.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
There was an interesting statement from the Prime Minister of
Trinidad and Tobago.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
They praised the strike. In the statement, one of the
things that Marco Rubio had said was that he believed
that the ship was going to go to Trinidad, that
that was one of the steps it was going to
make before it made its way up to North America.
And the Prime Minister there in Trinidad and Tobago praised
the attack and said keep them coming. There was a
(05:20):
huge press conference outside the steps of the Capitol or
on the steps of the Capitol today, including people who
say that they were victims of Jeffrey Epstein, demanding that
Congress and President Trump and the Department of Justice release
all the files on the Jeffrey Epstein case.
Speaker 9 (05:41):
There were years when his staff withdrew over a million
dollars in cash a year. Was that not a big
enough red flag? There were rier transfers to other victims
and the government, and the government did not protect us,
the banks did not protect us. To the curtain on
these files and be transparent every single time a new
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conspiracy gets circulated in the media, whether he is still alive,
what powerful person had him murdered, Who was on the
Epstein client list? And there are names going around on
TikTok and Instagram. We the survivors are suffering severely.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
That was a woman who said she met Jeffrey Epstein
when she was sixteen. There were others who said that
they met Jeffrey Epstein when they were as younger, young
as fourteen. These women were all brought to the Capitol
by invitation of Congressman Thomas Massey out of Kentucky and
Congressman Rocanna from California, who have teamed up in an
attempt to pass the bill that would require the Department
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of Justice and the FBI and the US Attorney's offices
to release all of their records. This is called the
Epstein Files Transparency Bill. They are not looked at in
a favorable life by House Speaker Mike Johnson, but it
might not matter. I mean, of course, he's the one
who's going to get to decide whether this thing ever
sees the for the House. But President Trump also welcomed
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the President of Poland at the White House today and
one of the things that President Trump had said that
he's going to get on the horn with Vladimir Putin.
He's upset that there has not been progress when it
comes to talks between Putin and Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski.
President Putin was in Beijing, China. We told you for
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this big military parade in China, and what Putin said
to reporters was he is still up in the air
about whether or not he's going to actually call the
president of Ukraine, but did offer to host a summit
in Moscow. He said we could do I've never refused
to do that if it leads to some positive outcomes. Again,
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this is through a translation. Donald asked me if it
was possible his reference to President Trump.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
He said, yes, it is possible.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I said, let him come to Moscow, referring to Zelenski.
So the other issue that was dogging the president over
the weekend, although it didn't seem like it bothered him
very much, was was he alive? He kind of laughed
it off yesterday because obviously he was. But how does
the story like that get legs? And why is it
(08:21):
so easy to spread on social media? We'll talk about
this why the Internet was convinced that the president was gone.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
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Speaker 2 (08:38):
I believe is the powerball jackpot up for grabs, forty
drawings without a winner. Tonight is going to be is
going to be the drawing for the one point four
billion dollar powerball.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Bottom of the hour. Justin Warsham is going to join us.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
We're going to talk about some parenting stuff, including six
magic phrases that will snap your kids to a tension,
make him listen to you. We'll talk about that at
the bottom of the hour when Justin comes in. President
Trump didn't really have a bunch of stuff on his
public schedule. After last week's cabinet meeting, A bunch of
people saw that big bruise that's on his right hand.
(09:14):
Sometimes he tries to cover it up with makeup. His
ankles are swollen. He is the oldest person to be
elected president.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
All of things.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
All of these things go into what we saw was
some pretty breathless social media coverage of whether or not
he was alive. Critics have speculated about this guy's health
as long as he's been around. Since twenty fifteen, there
were questions about could a guy that size be president. Well,
there have been presidents that were much larger than him,
(09:44):
fat speaking, and people that were probably worse off physically,
and they were also president. Remember the time when he
had COVID and he coughed from the balcony, everybody thought
that that was a severe sign of stage respiratory illness.
There hadn't really been a conspiracy as feverish as the
(10:06):
one that we saw over the weekend that this guy
was gone. TikTok, influencers, Instagram, Twitter read it. All of
them shared by people and commented on by people who
said that they saw definitive proof that the president was
not the president, that there was a body double being used,
or that the president had fallen severely ill and had
(10:29):
been taken to Walter Reed Medical Center, something like that.
So much conversation or about it that he was actually
asked to weigh in on it yesterday that he was
asked to say, well, did you see the story that
you were dead over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I've been very active actually over the weekend. I didn't
hear that one. That's pretty serious. Well, it's fake news,
you know, It's just so it's so fake. That's why
the media has so little credibility.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Okay, so I will I will say this. It was
mostly social media. I didn't see any of the big
networks or large media organizations actually reporting that the president
had died, other than to say there were people on
Twitter who were losing their minds over this. But you
gotta imagine that the focus on his health now is
(11:15):
tied to whether it's a flashback or a reaction to
the experience that we saw with Joe Biden, who physically declined.
You cannot argue that he physically declined in front of
our eyes. And Trump made a great point yesterday. Joe
Biden would go for several days and in some cases
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a couple of weeks without any public appearances, and people
were saying, Oh, he's just busy being president. That's not
what happened last couple of days when people were losing
their minds over Trump. Adding to the problem is that
this president and presidents in the past are not very
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forthcoming about their health. I mean, it is a national
security issue. And while the Washington Post and New York
Times have come out with stories about this, the AP
actually had another question as well, which I thought was
pretty well posed. How do you cover the health of
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a president of the United States? And how we cover
it's a very sensitive issue. It's not just sensitive because
it's personal, obviously, but once you become president, you lose
a lot of that personal space, a lot of that
personal protection maybe, and a lot of what you do
as president becomes the business of the nation. Donald Trump
(12:40):
is seventy nine years old, and as much as criticism
as people gave Joe Biden, President Trump is the oldest
person to have been inaugurated as president.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
None of what I mentioned earlier, the bruising, the.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Swollen ankles, None of that is of any sort of
serious illness, although the White House did say he's been
diagnosed with chronic venus insufficiency, means the veins in his
legs can't properly carry the blood back to his heart.
It's pretty common and it's not necessarily life threatening. Yeah,
with other stuff, it could easily be complications for something.
(13:20):
But in all of this question of you know what
we saw on social media with the president is dead
and the hashtag Trump is gone or whatever, it is,
what is fair game for us to cover In years past,
decades past, not years past, but in decades past, people
didn't comment on the president's health. The assumption was that
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the president was a strong, virile person who was going
to live out his days in full health. We know
that that was not true some of the times, but
that's what the media reported, that's what the public consumed.
Bill Gruskin is a Columbia University professor of journalism and
(14:06):
said evidence based assessments of a president's health should be
fair gray, a fair game. Observations that we can all make.
The bruising on the hands, the swollen ankles, falling asleep
at a meeting, stumbling over your words, mispronouncing words, forgetting
people's names, all of those things you can see for
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yourself in public. And then the president gets a physical
at least once a year, and the doctors put together
a list of drugs that or there should put together
a list of drugs that the president is on. All
of that should be answerable. The White House should have
answers for those types of things. And while we did
(14:48):
see some coverage of Joe Biden's health post presidency, I'm
looking at you, Jake Tapper. This has definitely renewed the
questions of what is fair game when it comes to
the president's health. Questions continue to circulate about the president
(15:09):
when he made an unexplained and unannounced visit to Walter
Read Medical Center back in twenty nineteen during his first term,
and Stephanie Grisham, a one time press secretary and I
think she actually worked for Milania Trump for a long time,
she wrote in a memoir that that was just a
routine colonoscopy and that the guy was just private about it.
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Now as your president, as a president, I don't think
you get to be quiet or private about some of
those things, even if it is something like an un
unannounced colonoscopy. All right, parenting, we come back. Justin Warsham
is going to join us.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Shann's out of town today. She's out of the country today.
As a matter of fact, she's in Brazil for tomorrow. No,
let's say Wednesday too, of getting ready for a Friday
night's game the Chargers are hosting. They're the home team
against the Chiefs in sal Polo. She was a little
flustered because this is an incredibly important first two weeks
(16:14):
of the division. They play the Chiefs, then they turn
around and they play the Raiders right away, another division rival.
So it's it'll be a it'll be quite an interesting
beginning to this season.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
It's gonna go. But this is Shannon. Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
We will hear from her on Friday when we do
our Gas Fantasy for play. Justin Warsham joined us. We
talked about the world of parenting. Since you are I
am you.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Know, yeah, we are. We had kids at some point.
It's fun because I see in you a younger me. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
That's good because I see in you an older bean,
not in the not in the runway. But I'm just like,
I just hope it goes as well for me as
it seems to be going for Gary.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
We always talk about the fun stuff, the the crazy
stuff that comes with parenting, and you find some really
good stuff there. There's an advocate for mindful parenting guy
named reem Rouda.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Or sorry, so it's a woman. I shouldn't say guy.
I just say guy to be nice. I don't know,
and they.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Talk to dapeaking it all out. Don't worry Elmer.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
The six magic phrases that will make your kids listen
to you Now I know the context. It's kind of
all over the place about when you need them to
listen to you. I the one thing that's not on here,
it's it's not a phrase, but it would be something
that I would Yeah, it's a quick backhand.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
No.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
The one thing I would say is don't talk like
a child to your children. Right. That's one of the
things that I we were talking earlier about the family isms,
the things that you know linguistically exist in your family
that might not exist in any other group.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
You're in.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Funny words, funny phrases, whatever, I never, and that some
of them are driven by the kids coming up with
baby words baby talk, and that you, as a parent,
adopt it.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
And it never goes away. It's always so cute. I never,
I shouldn't say never.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I tried to talk to my kids as an adult
a lot because I didn't want them to be big
dumb babies.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Yeah, that was one of my dad's like top five
things that he would say a lot.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Like.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
He's like, I talked to you like you're thirty six
because we don't do baby talk, and he wants you
to be able to have a conversation with adults, which
I'm sure the many adults that my dad was friends
with that I had conversations with were unappreciative of this
to go away because well, we all do. A year
old he's so great, but he's got no life experience
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and nothing interesting to say with it. Meanwhile, you got
a two figures of whiskey and a cigar and you're
nine talking about sight words and spelling these. I just
want to go through these because this is like, here's
that we talk about. I'm I'm a pretty like emotionally
like savvy guy, like I'm not like but whenever I
call this stuff, and it's probably unfair, but I call
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it kind of hippy dippy parenting stuff and I'm just
not a fan. Like the first thing it says is
I believe you, like you have to confirm that you
to the child that you believe what they're saying.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
And I just don't. I don't.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Again, maybe I'm ruining my children, but I think so
many of these things that seem to be coming up
in parenting more and more is this idea that we
want to really cater to their emotional needs. And I'm
for that to a certain extent because but at some
point we have to also prepare for the fact that
there are other places are not going to care about
their emotional needs, and we can't expect a world to
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shift to everybody's emotional needs all the time.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Like there's not a lot.
Speaker 10 (19:46):
Of talk when you see these articles about teaching kids
to regulate their own feelings and thoughts well, and just
like some sort of physical capability that you want them
to have, they have to learn how to do it themselves.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, I mean, you think of you're not going to
put your kids on a weightlifting regimen, but for them
to develop muscles and musculo skeletal structure. They have to
be able to do sorry, they have to be able
to lift and move heavy things, and sometimes emotionally, they
have to figure that stuff out too, to develop that
that same system.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
Because we're seeing it more and more, they talk about it,
that it came out with the tablets at the restaurants
and using them as a pacifier, that what is coming
of it is that people are growing up with an
inability to deal with negative experiences and emotions because they
don't know they don't know how to process boredom, and
they also don't know how to process just being unhappy
or uncomfortable, like there's not a lot of tolerance in
that regard. And I don't know how this is helpful.
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And the next one is like, let's figure this out together.
And if you're dealing with a smaller child, I think
that makes sense, like showing some kind of modeling. But
to say that this is always the expectation, I think
is unrealistic. At some point you got to say, listen, dude,
clean up your room, like I'm not going to help you.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Child has a meltdown. This is the third one. You
can feel this I'm right here. If a child has
a meltdown when their tower of blocks falls, instead of
yelling stop crying, you're overreacting, you say you can feel this,
I'm right here. And again, I like to think I'm
a nice person, but I don't know. I really don't
understand how that's helpful. I don't like I get that
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validating when kids. And I've done this in different aspects
of my kid's life, there are definitely moments where I'm
not as tough on them because I know that they're
in a moment of weakness, but when they're throwing a
temper tantrum, if it's not in a moment of weakness,
like as an example, just after my dad passed away,
my kids were not doing the best in school, and
I wasn't hard on them about it because I knew
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they were going through a rough patch, but I had
expectators said hey, we got to do stuff to figure
this out. But if they were throwing a full blown fit,
I'm not gonna say, like, it's okay to feel what
you feel. I'm gonna stand here and wait for you
to rudely scream at your mother until you've done with
your feeling.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Right, and we can talk about that.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, it would be something along the lines of more
of a I know how pissed you are right now,
but that's going to fade. And when you're done with
it and it starts a fade, then we can talk
right as opposed to the And maybe it's just a
difference in language, the language that you choose to express
the same sentiment. But just you know you can feel that, well,
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of course you can. Why are you telling them that?
No one's suggesting that they can't feel whatever they're feeling.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
You know, I may have at some point I may
have said, like I had this favorite like famous to
me was this argument. They brought in this therapist to
a PTA meeting and they were talking about kids dealing
with stress. And I was so new to the school
and everything, and I didn't know that I was.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I thought I was speaking for the maturity.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
Yeah, I said, I go, wait a minute, I go,
how am I supposed to like tell my kid that
he's okay to be stressed out about kindergarten? Because if
he's stressed out about kindergart that's not real, is what
I said. And the therapist, very patronized, very condescending. Was like, well,
it's real to him, and I'm like, no, it's not
like he doesn't know what stress is at five years old.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
He's modeling stress because I was gonna say, you can't
make up something, right. They kids may feel something, yes whatever,
They may feel something, but you don't get to then
put a label on it and then push the furniture
out of their way so that they don't get.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Hurt by it. Right.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
You can't say to a five year old you what
you're feeling is stress and the only way to deal
with stress is to blow off steam or yell at
your parents or beat your cat or something like that.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
How do they do it?
Speaker 6 (23:39):
But but I mean, they're gonna feel what they are
feeling something you can You can't tell them not to
feel the thing.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Whatever they're feeling.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
You don't have to label it and tell them that
it's the thing that's going to get them out of work.
I feel anxious today, or I don't want to go
to school, I want to take a psych day.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
You're in No.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
No, it's okay to feel that thing, it's not okay
to let it paralyze you. And this idea of telling
people to deal or to pull it together. I don't
think is emotionally unintelligent. I really don't think.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
That at all.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
I mean, I know we got to go, but this
one I think is kind of similar. Like I hear you,
I'm on your side, and I know that probably in
ninety percent of scenarios where your kid is not upset
with you, right, or something you're asking them to do,
maybe it's something at school with a friend, you are
on their side. I get that, But to put it
in this context of saying that parents always have to
be on their kids side, it's just not real.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
There have been times where even though my.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Kid's teacher was a colossal a hole, that what I
asked my kid to do.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
He didn't do.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
And so I'm like, this is on you, Like you,
if you would have done what I asked you to do,
I'd be on your side. I would be on your side,
and we could go after this a whole teacher together.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
But you decided to like I'm about to take the
leash off my dad. He's gonna come at you, and
he's gonna send a sternly worded email. That's not gonna work. Man.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
A six.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Reminder.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I will be out at the Seami Valley grand reopening
of the American Vision Windows showroom out there coming up
on Saturday. It'll be from eleven to three. A Conway
will be out there. Dan Sharp is going to be
out there. We're gonna play a little three on three
basketball with whoever gets this.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I'm just trying to but there's gonna be food and
fun and prizes.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Did just immediately backpedal on a three on three basketball
game between the three of you and the listeners in
one person?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Well, probably that's probably the best chance we would have
if it was the three of us against one other.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
No, No, I bet Deacon Box out.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
You.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
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That is a great deal. I use them on my
house and on a rental property they had. They were great,
they were fantastic. All Right, we're talking with Justin about
some parenting stuff. You kids are they rivals?
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Yes? Sibling rival? Really?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
So?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Is it because they're close in ages it because they're both
know I don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
That's I don't know, because that's the tough part about
parenting is that you don't have you only have your
two kids, and you look at other people, but there's
so many variables that are involved that you can't even
It's hard, I think, to really truly compare because plus,
you don't like other people's kids for sure, because mine
are perfect. Well, I wouldn't go that far, but I would.
(26:32):
I will fight you right here. The point is, my
kids are better than your scary that's all the people
I don't know. Okay, so they they have this rivalry.
I think it comes more from my younger son. For
whatever reason. My dad gave me this advice when I
was having a second one.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
I said, what do you think, he goes.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
All I could tell you is that don't make the
older one, which is Jacob, like, let the other one win.
He said, when I was a kid, your grandparents used
to do that all the time, and he said it
would frustrate me.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
But he goes.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
I think it also made my brother angry too, And
they don't get along. They've never got along their entire life.
My kids have big bursts of getting along and having
fun and hanging out with each other when one of
them leaves to go do like a school thing for
a few days and they miss each other. But there's
always like the younger ones always like, oh, well I
didn't do that. Did you know that I did this
(27:24):
better than Jacob? But like he's always and so I've
tried to address.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
It in multiple ways.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
What seems to be working now is the minute he
says anything like that, I go, this is why I
know you are the superior person in every way imaginable.
Both your mother and I think you are the best
and you are the favorite.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Like I just keep waking.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
That and he goes, no, no, and I go, I
don't know what you is that what you want to hear?
Is that why you're bringing this up? Because otherwise there's
no reason. And when they fight, I've brought up the idea.
I'm like, you, guys, know that you're here so that
you have partners in life when your mom and I
are gone. I also throw their mother under bus and go,
this is all your mom wanted, so you can't fight.
I have to get along otherwise exactly, Yeah, guilt and shame,
(28:05):
that's works right well, and I have two older sisters.
I don't ever feel like I had any sort of
sibling rivalry. I didn't see it between between two of
either We're just we're all busy all we all had
busy stuff. I mean there were times when, for example,
they were close enough in age that they'd play on
the same teams or they were part of the same
(28:25):
groups kind of thing. But I never saw it.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
As a as a rivalry between the age gap between
you all three years each. So oldest sister three years
comes my next sister, and then three years comes to me. Okay,
so it's, uh, you know, close enough that I knew
a lot of their friends. But by the time I
started high school, my oldest sister was in college, so
there was enough of a gap there. I guess that
(28:51):
we weren't too close.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
My kids are.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
About two and a half years apart, and maybe it is.
I do wonder if it was a girl, if it
would make any difference, because I feel like that makes
it for whatever reason, that makes a separation in the
competition of.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
But I also think, I mean, my son is older
than my son is twenty five, and our daughter's twenty three, Okay,
so there's probably a discussion between the two of them
where he thinks she's the favorite because she was the baby,
because she's a girl, because you know all of that stuff.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Do you think she thinks the other way around, because
I don't know, that's a good question.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
I think my younger one thinks that the older one
is the favorite. He's kind of expressed that that we
do a lot for him, and what I've expressed him like, well,
he also articulates what he wants very clearly, Like he's like,
if you come to us and say this is what
I would like to do, if you think back everything
that you've said, if it's within reason, we do it.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Like we try to make it a thing.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
But that's the other thing that that is so hard
to get a kid to do, is Okay, stop thinking
about us in the context of your sibling. Think about
us in the context of just you.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
And to go back what we're saying in the first
segment about you know, I'm on your side, think about
all the times I've been on your side, right versus
the times you think I've been on your sister's side
or your brother's side or something. And and just remember
there are plenty of times when you got something that
they didn't yes, or vice versa. I mean, but that's
I want to rattle these off because some of them
(30:20):
as don't compare. Ever, I was very good at that.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
I don't think I ever said, ohy, can't you be
more like your brother one on one time?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Also good with that? Or teach teamwork not competition. I
try to. That's what I'm.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Guilting them by saying, you're supposed to get to get
along together model conflict resolution, I don't. I mean, I
do that maybe in my marriage, but like I have
also it says later on to like step back sometimes,
let them have their own art. I've done that a lot,
like let them kind of work out their differences.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Do they ever ask you about your relationships with your siblings?
Speaker 6 (30:49):
No, because I think there's not much there, like and
they don't see you probably interact with them very often. No,
My like my brother would be the one that they
would have seen the most. And like, my brother's just
not a taler and I am, and like they know that.
After my dad passed away, my brother and I had
like an argument and that even that shifted our relationship
even more. But I don't think. Yeah, I haven't been
(31:10):
able to model that at all. Unfortunately I suck at that.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Okay, that's okay, that's why you're here. We're here to
talk to fix me, celebrate the joy off. What about respect?
Birth order? I hate this.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
I don't know why. My son there's maybe this is
why I hate this. My son recently, like, not in
an argument, just a conversation about life, he drops this
thing like I. We can never understand him where he says,
I'm the only first born in our family. I both
want to throw up and bunch him in the throne
at the same time, But at the same time, I
(31:43):
can't argue.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
It, like I just technically, yes, correct.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
He's correct. He's absolutely correct. I just said, you're right.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
The birth order thing means that my thirty years of
life experience are irrelevant to you, and I can't provide
any help to you, You poor poor thing. You might
as well call Social service ar now.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
And then sibling bonds can be life strongest friendships. Yeah
they can, but do.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
They need to be like I don't are you You
seem out from.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
The outside, you seem super close to your sisters. Is
that fair to say or no.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
I'm close. I wouldn't say super close. I'm close. I
don't talk to them forever.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I shouldn't say I talked to them once a week
pretty regular, that's great. Maybe once every two weeks pretty regular.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
That's awesome. And it's only happened within the last couple
of years.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
For part of it is just out of necessity, but
our parents got sick and died and and but it's
also one of the acknowledgments like, Okay, we're not as
busy as we used to be. We're not constantly traveling
for the kids' sports or that kind of thing, so
there is more time to just kind of catch up.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
That's great, So I look forward to that.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
Yeah, it's kind of happens since my dad passed away
where I feel like I talked to my niece and
nephews and my brother and sister more than I did before.
Before I've only see him twice a year and never
talked to him throughout the year ever.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
And even when you saw them, you wouldn't talk to.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
Not my brother because he just he wants to just
watch hunting videos on It's sure.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
I'm sure he's a great dad. Thank you, thanks, Justin.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
All right, we'll do our trending stories, we'll get back
to those secret family languages that exist, and then what
you watch on Wednesday's coming up as well.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Gary and Shannon will continue right after this.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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(00:52):
to three. I just mentioned the care court system. The
new numbers show that it is not bringing in anywhere
near or what they thought it was going to bring
in in terms of trying to get people who are
experiencing psychosis off the streets of California.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Big Garrett, I'm glad you're bringing up that thing about
the care of corp and use the example of the
young man in psychosis, because I have a son like
that and there was no help in the state. Even
though you got detained and was putting a.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Psych word for two weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
They never followed up with them when he got out.
So I'm glad you're bringing this up later if they
know there are parents who do care and love for their kids,
but sometimes there's just no help for their adult kids.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Thanks by Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Unfortunately, that's not a unique story. There are plenty of
people out there who are dealing with people in their
families or friends or loved ones who fit those descriptions
and they feel like they don't have any help from
the state. All Right, it's eleven o'clock, which means it's
time for swamp watch.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar,
and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lolleypops,
we got.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
The problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
The other side never quits, so what.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
So now you train the SWAT, I can imagine what
can be and be unburdened by.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
What has been. You know, Americans have always been gone.
They're not stupid.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Who have the people voting for you were not swamp Watch,
They're all countera.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
The Good Feed Store sponsored swamp Watch every day. If
you have plant tarfestiitis or other ankle or knee pain,
you can always go to the Good Feet Store. Well,
we blew up a boat that was apparently carrying drugs
in the Southern Caribbean ocean sea and the Southern Caribbean.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And uh, the United States military has been active in
those areas off the coast of Venezuela in international waters.
And President Trump did say that this boat was carrying
a boat ton of drugs and eleven trend de Aragua members.
Former acting director of the DEA, Derek Mall says, this
(03:05):
is a long time coming.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
It's about time the US government stood up for Americas first,
you know, Americans first, by holding these Nauco terrorists accountable. Dana,
what people have to realize is that since like early
two thousand, first under President Chavez and then under President Maduro,
they formed this alliance with the major nauco terraces in Colombia,
(03:28):
the FOK, the ELN, but they have been distributing ton
quantities of cocaine at the highest level. The corruption is
at the top of the Venezuelan government.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Secretary of State Marco Rubio said that this attack should
be clear. It's a message to Venezuela, to Colombia, to
any one of these state level narco traffic contes that
the United States isn't going to put up with it anymore.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
I think as long as those vessels are in the
region and as long as the presidents in the White House,
he's made very clear he's not going to allow the
United States to continue to be flooded with cocaine and
fentanyl and other drugs coming from different places.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
By the way, there are some allegations out there, at
least from the Venezuelans, that this was a made up
video that the president released on his truth social It's
been out in different places as well, that it was
artificial intelligence that created this thing. Pete hegg Seth, Secretary Defense,
went on interviews this morning, including Fox and Friends and
said that was absolutely not the case.
Speaker 8 (04:22):
We knew exactly what they were doing, and we knew
exactly who they represented, and that was Trendea Ragway narco
terrorist organization designated by the United States, trying to poison
our country with illicit drugs. We're not going to allow
this kind of activity. You're poisoning our people. We've got
incredible assets and they are gathering in the region, and
so you want to try to traffic drugs, it's a
(04:43):
new day, it's a different day, and so those eleven
drug traffickers are no longer with US, sending a very
clear signal that this is an activity the United States
is not going to tolerate in our hemisphere.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
There was an interesting statement from the Prime Minister of
Trinidad and Tobago.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
They praised the strike. In the statement, one of the
things that Marco Rubio had said was that he believed
that the ship was going to go to Trinidad, that
that was one of the steps it was going to
make before it made its way up to North America.
And the Prime Minister there in Trinidad and Tobago praised
the attack and said keep them coming. There was a
(05:20):
huge press conference outside the steps of the Capitol or
on the steps of the Capitol today, including people who
say that they were victims of Jeffrey Epstein, demanding that
Congress and President Trump and the Department of Justice release
all the files on the Jeffrey Epstein case.
Speaker 9 (05:41):
There were years when his staff withdrew over a million
dollars in cash a year. Was that not a big
enough red flag? There were rier transfers to other victims
and the government, and the government did not protect us,
the banks did not protect us. To the curtain on
these files and be transparent every single time a new
(06:06):
conspiracy gets circulated in the media, whether he is still alive,
what powerful person had him murdered, Who was on the
Epstein client list? And there are names going around on
TikTok and Instagram. We the survivors are suffering severely.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
That was a woman who said she met Jeffrey Epstein
when she was sixteen. There were others who said that
they met Jeffrey Epstein when they were as younger, young
as fourteen. These women were all brought to the Capitol
by invitation of Congressman Thomas Massey out of Kentucky and
Congressman Rocanna from California, who have teamed up in an
attempt to pass the bill that would require the Department
(06:47):
of Justice and the FBI and the US Attorney's offices
to release all of their records. This is called the
Epstein Files Transparency Bill. They are not looked at in
a favorable life by House Speaker Mike Johnson, but it
might not matter. I mean, of course, he's the one
who's going to get to decide whether this thing ever
sees the for the House. But President Trump also welcomed
(07:10):
the President of Poland at the White House today and
one of the things that President Trump had said that
he's going to get on the horn with Vladimir Putin.
He's upset that there has not been progress when it
comes to talks between Putin and Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski.
President Putin was in Beijing, China. We told you for
(07:31):
this big military parade in China, and what Putin said
to reporters was he is still up in the air
about whether or not he's going to actually call the
president of Ukraine, but did offer to host a summit
in Moscow. He said we could do I've never refused
to do that if it leads to some positive outcomes. Again,
(07:53):
this is through a translation. Donald asked me if it
was possible his reference to President Trump.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
He said, yes, it is possible.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I said, let him come to Moscow, referring to Zelenski.
So the other issue that was dogging the president over
the weekend, although it didn't seem like it bothered him
very much, was was he alive? He kind of laughed
it off yesterday because obviously he was. But how does
the story like that get legs? And why is it
(08:21):
so easy to spread on social media? We'll talk about
this why the Internet was convinced that the president was gone.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
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drawings without a winner. Tonight is going to be is
going to be the drawing for the one point four
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Speaker 4 (08:49):
Bottom of the hour. Justin Warsham is going to join us.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
We're going to talk about some parenting stuff, including six
magic phrases that will snap your kids to a tension,
make him listen to you. We'll talk about that at
the bottom of the hour when Justin comes in. President
Trump didn't really have a bunch of stuff on his
public schedule. After last week's cabinet meeting, A bunch of
people saw that big bruise that's on his right hand.
(09:14):
Sometimes he tries to cover it up with makeup. His
ankles are swollen. He is the oldest person to be
elected president.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
All of things.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
All of these things go into what we saw was
some pretty breathless social media coverage of whether or not
he was alive. Critics have speculated about this guy's health
as long as he's been around. Since twenty fifteen, there
were questions about could a guy that size be president. Well,
there have been presidents that were much larger than him,
(09:44):
fat speaking, and people that were probably worse off physically,
and they were also president. Remember the time when he
had COVID and he coughed from the balcony, everybody thought
that that was a severe sign of stage respiratory illness.
There hadn't really been a conspiracy as feverish as the
(10:06):
one that we saw over the weekend that this guy
was gone. TikTok, influencers, Instagram, Twitter read it. All of
them shared by people and commented on by people who
said that they saw definitive proof that the president was
not the president, that there was a body double being used,
or that the president had fallen severely ill and had
(10:29):
been taken to Walter Reed Medical Center, something like that.
So much conversation or about it that he was actually
asked to weigh in on it yesterday that he was
asked to say, well, did you see the story that
you were dead over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I've been very active actually over the weekend. I didn't
hear that one. That's pretty serious. Well, it's fake news,
you know, It's just so it's so fake. That's why
the media has so little credibility.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Okay, so I will I will say this. It was
mostly social media. I didn't see any of the big
networks or large media organizations actually reporting that the president
had died, other than to say there were people on
Twitter who were losing their minds over this. But you
gotta imagine that the focus on his health now is
(11:15):
tied to whether it's a flashback or a reaction to
the experience that we saw with Joe Biden, who physically declined.
You cannot argue that he physically declined in front of
our eyes. And Trump made a great point yesterday. Joe
Biden would go for several days and in some cases
(11:38):
a couple of weeks without any public appearances, and people
were saying, Oh, he's just busy being president. That's not
what happened last couple of days when people were losing
their minds over Trump. Adding to the problem is that
this president and presidents in the past are not very
(11:59):
forthcoming about their health. I mean, it is a national
security issue. And while the Washington Post and New York
Times have come out with stories about this, the AP
actually had another question as well, which I thought was
pretty well posed. How do you cover the health of
(12:20):
a president of the United States? And how we cover
it's a very sensitive issue. It's not just sensitive because
it's personal, obviously, but once you become president, you lose
a lot of that personal space, a lot of that
personal protection maybe, and a lot of what you do
as president becomes the business of the nation. Donald Trump
(12:40):
is seventy nine years old, and as much as criticism
as people gave Joe Biden, President Trump is the oldest
person to have been inaugurated as president.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
None of what I mentioned earlier, the bruising, the.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Swollen ankles, None of that is of any sort of
serious illness, although the White House did say he's been
diagnosed with chronic venus insufficiency, means the veins in his
legs can't properly carry the blood back to his heart.
It's pretty common and it's not necessarily life threatening. Yeah,
with other stuff, it could easily be complications for something.
(13:20):
But in all of this question of you know what
we saw on social media with the president is dead
and the hashtag Trump is gone or whatever, it is,
what is fair game for us to cover In years past,
decades past, not years past, but in decades past, people
didn't comment on the president's health. The assumption was that
(13:42):
the president was a strong, virile person who was going
to live out his days in full health. We know
that that was not true some of the times, but
that's what the media reported, that's what the public consumed.
Bill Gruskin is a Columbia University professor of journalism and
(14:06):
said evidence based assessments of a president's health should be
fair gray, a fair game. Observations that we can all make.
The bruising on the hands, the swollen ankles, falling asleep
at a meeting, stumbling over your words, mispronouncing words, forgetting
people's names, all of those things you can see for
(14:27):
yourself in public. And then the president gets a physical
at least once a year, and the doctors put together
a list of drugs that or there should put together
a list of drugs that the president is on. All
of that should be answerable. The White House should have
answers for those types of things. And while we did
(14:48):
see some coverage of Joe Biden's health post presidency, I'm
looking at you, Jake Tapper. This has definitely renewed the
questions of what is fair game when it comes to
the president's health. Questions continue to circulate about the president
(15:09):
when he made an unexplained and unannounced visit to Walter
Read Medical Center back in twenty nineteen during his first term,
and Stephanie Grisham, a one time press secretary and I
think she actually worked for Milania Trump for a long time,
she wrote in a memoir that that was just a
routine colonoscopy and that the guy was just private about it.
(15:29):
Now as your president, as a president, I don't think
you get to be quiet or private about some of
those things, even if it is something like an un
unannounced colonoscopy. All right, parenting, we come back. Justin Warsham
is going to join us.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Shann's out of town today. She's out of the country today.
As a matter of fact, she's in Brazil for tomorrow. No,
let's say Wednesday too, of getting ready for a Friday
night's game the Chargers are hosting. They're the home team
against the Chiefs in sal Polo. She was a little
flustered because this is an incredibly important first two weeks
(16:14):
of the division. They play the Chiefs, then they turn
around and they play the Raiders right away, another division rival.
So it's it'll be a it'll be quite an interesting
beginning to this season.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
It's gonna go. But this is Shannon. Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
We will hear from her on Friday when we do
our Gas Fantasy for play. Justin Warsham joined us. We
talked about the world of parenting. Since you are I
am you.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Know, yeah, we are. We had kids at some point.
It's fun because I see in you a younger me. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
That's good because I see in you an older bean,
not in the not in the runway. But I'm just like,
I just hope it goes as well for me as
it seems to be going for Gary.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
We always talk about the fun stuff, the the crazy
stuff that comes with parenting, and you find some really
good stuff there. There's an advocate for mindful parenting guy
named reem Rouda.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Or sorry, so it's a woman. I shouldn't say guy.
I just say guy to be nice. I don't know,
and they.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Talk to dapeaking it all out. Don't worry Elmer.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
The six magic phrases that will make your kids listen
to you Now I know the context. It's kind of
all over the place about when you need them to
listen to you. I the one thing that's not on here,
it's it's not a phrase, but it would be something
that I would Yeah, it's a quick backhand.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
No.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
The one thing I would say is don't talk like
a child to your children. Right. That's one of the
things that I we were talking earlier about the family isms,
the things that you know linguistically exist in your family
that might not exist in any other group.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
You're in.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Funny words, funny phrases, whatever, I never, and that some
of them are driven by the kids coming up with
baby words baby talk, and that you, as a parent,
adopt it.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
And it never goes away. It's always so cute. I never,
I shouldn't say never.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I tried to talk to my kids as an adult
a lot because I didn't want them to be big
dumb babies.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Yeah, that was one of my dad's like top five
things that he would say a lot.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Like.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
He's like, I talked to you like you're thirty six
because we don't do baby talk, and he wants you
to be able to have a conversation with adults, which
I'm sure the many adults that my dad was friends
with that I had conversations with were unappreciative of this
to go away because well, we all do. A year
old he's so great, but he's got no life experience
(18:47):
and nothing interesting to say with it. Meanwhile, you got
a two figures of whiskey and a cigar and you're
nine talking about sight words and spelling these. I just
want to go through these because this is like, here's
that we talk about. I'm I'm a pretty like emotionally
like savvy guy, like I'm not like but whenever I
call this stuff, and it's probably unfair, but I call
(19:08):
it kind of hippy dippy parenting stuff and I'm just
not a fan. Like the first thing it says is
I believe you, like you have to confirm that you
to the child that you believe what they're saying.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
And I just don't. I don't.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Again, maybe I'm ruining my children, but I think so
many of these things that seem to be coming up
in parenting more and more is this idea that we
want to really cater to their emotional needs. And I'm
for that to a certain extent because but at some
point we have to also prepare for the fact that
there are other places are not going to care about
their emotional needs, and we can't expect a world to
(19:42):
shift to everybody's emotional needs all the time.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Like there's not a lot.
Speaker 10 (19:46):
Of talk when you see these articles about teaching kids
to regulate their own feelings and thoughts well, and just
like some sort of physical capability that you want them
to have, they have to learn how to do it themselves.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, I mean, you think of you're not going to
put your kids on a weightlifting regimen, but for them
to develop muscles and musculo skeletal structure. They have to
be able to do sorry, they have to be able
to lift and move heavy things, and sometimes emotionally, they
have to figure that stuff out too, to develop that
that same system.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
Because we're seeing it more and more, they talk about it,
that it came out with the tablets at the restaurants
and using them as a pacifier, that what is coming
of it is that people are growing up with an
inability to deal with negative experiences and emotions because they
don't know they don't know how to process boredom, and
they also don't know how to process just being unhappy
or uncomfortable, like there's not a lot of tolerance in
that regard. And I don't know how this is helpful.
(20:41):
And the next one is like, let's figure this out together.
And if you're dealing with a smaller child, I think
that makes sense, like showing some kind of modeling. But
to say that this is always the expectation, I think
is unrealistic. At some point you got to say, listen, dude,
clean up your room, like I'm not going to help you.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Child has a meltdown. This is the third one. You
can feel this I'm right here. If a child has
a meltdown when their tower of blocks falls, instead of
yelling stop crying, you're overreacting, you say you can feel this,
I'm right here. And again, I like to think I'm
a nice person, but I don't know. I really don't
understand how that's helpful. I don't like I get that
(21:21):
validating when kids. And I've done this in different aspects
of my kid's life, there are definitely moments where I'm
not as tough on them because I know that they're
in a moment of weakness, but when they're throwing a
temper tantrum, if it's not in a moment of weakness,
like as an example, just after my dad passed away,
my kids were not doing the best in school, and
I wasn't hard on them about it because I knew
(21:43):
they were going through a rough patch, but I had
expectators said hey, we got to do stuff to figure
this out. But if they were throwing a full blown fit,
I'm not gonna say, like, it's okay to feel what
you feel. I'm gonna stand here and wait for you
to rudely scream at your mother until you've done with
your feeling.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Right, and we can talk about that.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, it would be something along the lines of more
of a I know how pissed you are right now,
but that's going to fade. And when you're done with
it and it starts a fade, then we can talk
right as opposed to the And maybe it's just a
difference in language, the language that you choose to express
the same sentiment. But just you know you can feel that, well,
(22:23):
of course you can. Why are you telling them that?
No one's suggesting that they can't feel whatever they're feeling.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
You know, I may have at some point I may
have said, like I had this favorite like famous to
me was this argument. They brought in this therapist to
a PTA meeting and they were talking about kids dealing
with stress. And I was so new to the school
and everything, and I didn't know that I was.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I thought I was speaking for the maturity.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
Yeah, I said, I go, wait a minute, I go,
how am I supposed to like tell my kid that
he's okay to be stressed out about kindergarten? Because if
he's stressed out about kindergart that's not real, is what
I said. And the therapist, very patronized, very condescending. Was like, well,
it's real to him, and I'm like, no, it's not
like he doesn't know what stress is at five years old.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
He's modeling stress because I was gonna say, you can't
make up something, right. They kids may feel something, yes whatever,
They may feel something, but you don't get to then
put a label on it and then push the furniture
out of their way so that they don't get.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Hurt by it. Right.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
You can't say to a five year old you what
you're feeling is stress and the only way to deal
with stress is to blow off steam or yell at
your parents or beat your cat or something like that.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
How do they do it?
Speaker 6 (23:39):
But but I mean, they're gonna feel what they are
feeling something you can You can't tell them not to
feel the thing.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Whatever they're feeling.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
You don't have to label it and tell them that
it's the thing that's going to get them out of work.
I feel anxious today, or I don't want to go
to school, I want to take a psych day.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
You're in No.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
No, it's okay to feel that thing, it's not okay
to let it paralyze you. And this idea of telling
people to deal or to pull it together. I don't
think is emotionally unintelligent. I really don't think.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
That at all.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
I mean, I know we got to go, but this
one I think is kind of similar. Like I hear you,
I'm on your side, and I know that probably in
ninety percent of scenarios where your kid is not upset
with you, right, or something you're asking them to do,
maybe it's something at school with a friend, you are
on their side. I get that, But to put it
in this context of saying that parents always have to
be on their kids side, it's just not real.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
There have been times where even though my.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Kid's teacher was a colossal a hole, that what I
asked my kid to do.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
He didn't do.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
And so I'm like, this is on you, Like you,
if you would have done what I asked you to do,
I'd be on your side. I would be on your side,
and we could go after this a whole teacher together.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
But you decided to like I'm about to take the
leash off my dad. He's gonna come at you, and
he's gonna send a sternly worded email. That's not gonna work. Man.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
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some parenting stuff. You kids are they rivals?
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Yes? Sibling rival? Really?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
So?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Is it because they're close in ages it because they're both
know I don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
That's I don't know, because that's the tough part about
parenting is that you don't have you only have your
two kids, and you look at other people, but there's
so many variables that are involved that you can't even
It's hard, I think, to really truly compare because plus,
you don't like other people's kids for sure, because mine
are perfect. Well, I wouldn't go that far, but I would.
(26:32):
I will fight you right here. The point is, my
kids are better than your scary that's all the people
I don't know. Okay, so they they have this rivalry.
I think it comes more from my younger son. For
whatever reason. My dad gave me this advice when I
was having a second one.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
I said, what do you think, he goes.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
All I could tell you is that don't make the
older one, which is Jacob, like, let the other one win.
He said, when I was a kid, your grandparents used
to do that all the time, and he said it
would frustrate me.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
But he goes.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
I think it also made my brother angry too, And
they don't get along. They've never got along their entire life.
My kids have big bursts of getting along and having
fun and hanging out with each other when one of
them leaves to go do like a school thing for
a few days and they miss each other. But there's
always like the younger ones always like, oh, well I
didn't do that. Did you know that I did this
(27:24):
better than Jacob? But like he's always and so I've
tried to address.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
It in multiple ways.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
What seems to be working now is the minute he
says anything like that, I go, this is why I
know you are the superior person in every way imaginable.
Both your mother and I think you are the best
and you are the favorite.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Like I just keep waking.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
That and he goes, no, no, and I go, I
don't know what you is that what you want to hear?
Is that why you're bringing this up? Because otherwise there's
no reason. And when they fight, I've brought up the idea.
I'm like, you, guys, know that you're here so that
you have partners in life when your mom and I
are gone. I also throw their mother under bus and go,
this is all your mom wanted, so you can't fight.
I have to get along otherwise exactly, Yeah, guilt and shame,
(28:05):
that's works right well, and I have two older sisters.
I don't ever feel like I had any sort of
sibling rivalry. I didn't see it between between two of
either We're just we're all busy all we all had
busy stuff. I mean there were times when, for example,
they were close enough in age that they'd play on
the same teams or they were part of the same
(28:25):
groups kind of thing. But I never saw it.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
As a as a rivalry between the age gap between
you all three years each. So oldest sister three years
comes my next sister, and then three years comes to me. Okay,
so it's, uh, you know, close enough that I knew
a lot of their friends. But by the time I
started high school, my oldest sister was in college, so
there was enough of a gap there. I guess that
(28:51):
we weren't too close.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
My kids are.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
About two and a half years apart, and maybe it is.
I do wonder if it was a girl, if it
would make any difference, because I feel like that makes
it for whatever reason, that makes a separation in the
competition of.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
But I also think, I mean, my son is older
than my son is twenty five, and our daughter's twenty three, Okay,
so there's probably a discussion between the two of them
where he thinks she's the favorite because she was the baby,
because she's a girl, because you know all of that stuff.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Do you think she thinks the other way around, because
I don't know, that's a good question.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
I think my younger one thinks that the older one
is the favorite. He's kind of expressed that that we
do a lot for him, and what I've expressed him like, well,
he also articulates what he wants very clearly, Like he's like,
if you come to us and say this is what
I would like to do, if you think back everything
that you've said, if it's within reason, we do it.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Like we try to make it a thing.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
But that's the other thing that that is so hard
to get a kid to do, is Okay, stop thinking
about us in the context of your sibling. Think about
us in the context of just you.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
And to go back what we're saying in the first
segment about you know, I'm on your side, think about
all the times I've been on your side, right versus
the times you think I've been on your sister's side
or your brother's side or something. And and just remember
there are plenty of times when you got something that
they didn't yes, or vice versa. I mean, but that's
I want to rattle these off because some of them
(30:20):
as don't compare. Ever, I was very good at that.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
I don't think I ever said, ohy, can't you be
more like your brother one on one time?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Also good with that? Or teach teamwork not competition. I
try to. That's what I'm.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Guilting them by saying, you're supposed to get to get
along together model conflict resolution, I don't. I mean, I
do that maybe in my marriage, but like I have
also it says later on to like step back sometimes,
let them have their own art. I've done that a lot,
like let them kind of work out their differences.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Do they ever ask you about your relationships with your siblings?
Speaker 6 (30:49):
No, because I think there's not much there, like and
they don't see you probably interact with them very often. No,
My like my brother would be the one that they
would have seen the most. And like, my brother's just
not a taler and I am, and like they know that.
After my dad passed away, my brother and I had
like an argument and that even that shifted our relationship
even more. But I don't think. Yeah, I haven't been
(31:10):
able to model that at all. Unfortunately I suck at that.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Okay, that's okay, that's why you're here. We're here to
talk to fix me, celebrate the joy off. What about respect?
Birth order? I hate this.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
I don't know why. My son there's maybe this is
why I hate this. My son recently, like, not in
an argument, just a conversation about life, he drops this
thing like I. We can never understand him where he says,
I'm the only first born in our family. I both
want to throw up and bunch him in the throne
at the same time, But at the same time, I
(31:43):
can't argue.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
It, like I just technically, yes, correct.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
He's correct. He's absolutely correct. I just said, you're right.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
The birth order thing means that my thirty years of
life experience are irrelevant to you, and I can't provide
any help to you, You poor poor thing. You might
as well call Social service ar now.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
And then sibling bonds can be life strongest friendships. Yeah
they can, but do.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
They need to be like I don't are you You
seem out from.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
The outside, you seem super close to your sisters. Is
that fair to say or no.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
I'm close. I wouldn't say super close. I'm close. I
don't talk to them forever.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I shouldn't say I talked to them once a week
pretty regular, that's great. Maybe once every two weeks pretty regular.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
That's awesome. And it's only happened within the last couple
of years.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
For part of it is just out of necessity, but
our parents got sick and died and and but it's
also one of the acknowledgments like, Okay, we're not as
busy as we used to be. We're not constantly traveling
for the kids' sports or that kind of thing, so
there is more time to just kind of catch up.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
That's great, So I look forward to that.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
Yeah, it's kind of happens since my dad passed away
where I feel like I talked to my niece and
nephews and my brother and sister more than I did before.
Before I've only see him twice a year and never
talked to him throughout the year ever.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
And even when you saw them, you wouldn't talk to.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
Not my brother because he just he wants to just
watch hunting videos on It's sure.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
I'm sure he's a great dad. Thank you, thanks, Justin.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
All right, we'll do our trending stories, we'll get back
to those secret family languages that exist, and then what
you watch on Wednesday's coming up as well.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Gary and Shannon will continue right after this.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
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