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September 25, 2025 28 mins
WW3: Mystery drones over Denmark are 'hybrid attack,' defense minister says. Trump seeks $100,000 visa fee for temporary skilled workers. After mechanical challenges, UN says Trump’s team to blame for nonworking escalator and teleprompter.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Because from the time I left
here yesterday this seat to the time I got here,
I've encountered several men with the same issue, and they're

(00:22):
all in a bad mood because of it. It was
right when I got in the car, and it was
Rogan and Rodney, And then it was.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Petrosen money, is this about the Dodgers' bullpen?

Speaker 1 (00:35):
And then it was my husband, and then it was
the dude in the elevator this morning who I don't
remember his name, but he works upstairs and he said, Hi, Shannon,
And I'm an awful person because I don't remember his name. Okay,
And yes, everyone's upset about the Dodgers' bullpen. Now now
Fred and Rodney. Fred and Rodney wereked, just pissed. They

(00:56):
were hot. They were pissed. They were yelling, they were
yelling each other. They were very angry, which is not
what I go to Rogan and Rodney for. I go
to Rogan and Rodney for joy, enlightened giggles. They're like
my fun bunnies, you know. What I mean, they were
not fun bunnies yesterday. And then Petros and Money come
on the air and they're just depressed. They're just like

(01:18):
sad and withdrawn, and they their their upsetment came out
in a different way.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
And then my husband, who is usually a person.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Full of joy, was not full of joy yesterday as
the Dodgers blow or started to blow that four to
nothing lead and had to go into the eleventh to
save the game.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
You could say they blew it.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
I mean, and then this morning, this dude in the elevator,
it looked like somebody had, you know, kidnapped his family
this morning. He'd been up all night and he's like
Dodgers and I'm like yeah, I'm like ah the bullpen man,
He's like ah, And I was like, get me off
this elevator.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
What is honestly the expectation for them next week? I mean,
when when playoffs start? I think Tuesdays, when I.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Don't know how far you go with a bullpen like that.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Okay, now, but here's the other thing that I don't
tell any of these people go on, and I should
know better because I'm a sports fan, but like, you've
won a lot recently, do.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
You tell just winnings and go home.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
I have gone to three Super Bowls and lost. Y'all,
don't come at me with your bullpen complaints. Okay, I
don't know what kind of money I've put towards wanting
to win a world championship and not gotten the joy
that y'all have gotten on repeat.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Well I do I.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, So I don't say that to any of these people.
I just think it. And I know that that's not
how fandom works. I know that you don't just win
it and then you're just happy for the rest of
your lives.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
But still it's like Mayriel Tepper it.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
A little bit.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
And they're frustrated by the fact that going into the
season they thought they were going to wrap up the
division sometime in mid to late August, and they're still
Thursday of the last Thursday of the season and they
still have not wrapped up the division.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
And there's a lot of frustration when you do have
a lineup this good, yeah, and you and you just
crap all over it with the bullpen, which was supposed
to be great. How much did they pay that Guyner
Tanner Smith? Is that his name? Tanner something? Tanner or
something on they paid him, Like, I don't know Tanner Scott,
excuse me, a.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Ridiculous ten blown saves ten.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Listen, I don't even have that.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
I feel bad for him.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
And then the whole thing with Dave Roberts saying that
he's scared.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
To pitch, speaking of which, the Dodgers will play the
Diamondbacks and could could clinch the division title this afternoon,
twelve forty is the first part.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
I mean, if my boss, well, I'm not allowed to
call boss because he doesn't like it. If he came
in here and he was like, you sound like you're
scared to go on the air, I'd be like, I'll
show you scared, you know what I mean, Like it
would have the opposite effect. I'd blow up the whole building.
What well, you know what I mean? With your energy,

(04:04):
with my energy?

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Right hey, while we talk about baseball playoffs, there might
be a Third World War boiling in northern Europe.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah. This morning, the Pentagon Pete Haigseth summoned military officials
from around the world for this meeting in Virginia. Even
top generals and staffs say they don't know the reason
for the meeting.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
That is at the forefront.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
The backdrop is that we had to scramble jets over Alaska.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
It's that Denmark is.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Linking all these drone mishaps to Russia, which we already
kind of knew was going on.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yes, but there's a lot happening.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
There's a lot of weirdness going on, and with President Trump,
as we mentioned yesterday, finally appearing to just give up
on Vladimir Putin and any sort of deal, with him
suggesting that if Europe comes alongside Ukraine, Ukraine could win
back every square inch of its territory. And I don't
know if he's getting intelligence that says that the Russian

(05:11):
military is completely depleted at this point and that they're basically,
I mean to use his term, the paper tiger that
everybody assumes that they are. Maybe he feels he Trump
feels that this is the time to make a move,
or at least to put up a much more robust
defense on behalf of Ukraine.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I don't know, but you can't listen.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
There were, like you said, Russian planes over Alaska. That
happens every once in a while, not over Alaska, but
in that Alaskan airspace. That happens every once in a while.
It's the incursions into NATO airspace that are probably where
something would pop off. Russian pilots entered Estonian airspace to Italian.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
F thirty five's.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Those are pretty fancy planes they launched in an interception mission.
The Italians began the routine of an aerial intercept. They
rocked their wings from side to side to make sure
that they have the attention of whoever the pilot is,
make sure everything is okay, and basically tell them you
guys have to leave, and we'll give you ten seconds
or whatever to do so. For the next twelve minutes,
the Italian pilots trailed the Russians all the way back

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to the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad, at an unprecedented length
of time for an incursion. They said the whole thing
was was carried out peacefully. One of the Russian pilots
actually waved like it was top gun, waved at the
Italian pilots in the F thirty fives.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
I don't know what they think.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
I don't know if you're in the Russian military, the
Russian Air Force, what you think you're doing in terms
of following the orders of a clearly demented person.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
But it doesn't get.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
And Denmark, like you said, these drone incursions that have
shut down airports again, Denmark is now considering triggering Article
four of NATO's charter.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Article four is not Article five.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Article five is somebody punched us and we're going to
punch We're all going to punch them back. Article four is, hey,
we think somebody might be punching us, should we punch
them back?

Speaker 1 (07:15):
I want to get into this hag Seth order when
we come back. This is highly unusual. We've got a
government shut down that looms a month or a couple
months ago. Hag Seth's team at the Pentagon did announce
plans to consolidate top military commands.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
But here we have this meeting, this.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Rounding up of the top military officials to Virginia. About
eight hundred generals and admirals that are spread across this
country and dozens of other countries. We're talking about all
senior officers with rank of brigadier general or above or
their Navy equivalent, serving in command positions, and their top

(08:00):
enlisted advisors have been told to go to this meeting.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
How does that work? Do you appear virtually in some cases.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Not if the Secretary of Defense tells you to show up.
That is huge and what a freaking target.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Well, I didn't think of it that way.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
I didn't till just now.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
White House is raising the stakes of another potential government shutdown.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Worst kind of story to ever tell.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
But anyway, they're drafting a request for federal agencies to
prepare quote reduction enforce plans. It's unfortunate because Congress doesn't
pass this bill before October one.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
We see the headline, government says massive layoffs and many people,
not just Hasco who cares right because we think government
and bloated. It's too right, But these are everyday people
that work in government will be laid off because of it. Unfortunately,
it's an unsympathetic layoff notice for a lot of people
because you equate the government with just being bloated and unnecessary.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Have you ever heard of the Fujiwara effect?

Speaker 3 (09:12):
I have not.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Is this next hour we're going to talk about this earthquake? No,
it's sushi, tropical storms. Ah when they mingle.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Well, Defense Secretary Pete Hagesth this morning ordered hundreds of
the US military generals and admirals to gather on short
notice with no reason at a Marine Corps base in
Virginia next week. The senior staff of the Senior staff
is about eight hundred men and women from around the world.

(09:43):
They're supposed to meet at Quantico Tuesday. Brigadier general or
above or their Navy equivalent. Top commanders in conflict zones
PS Europe, Middle East, Asia, Pacific area expected to attend
this meeting.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
The only statement from the Pentagon, by the way, Sean Parnell, spokesman,
said that heg Seth will be addressing his senior military
leaders early next week. That's all that He's going to
address his senior military leaders.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
None of the people who spoke with The Washington Post
could recall a Defense secretary ever ordering so many of
the military's generals and admirals to assemble like this. Many
are saying it's raising security concerns. People are very concerned.
They have no idea what it means is the quote.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah, your point. Some are warning that having this many
people in one place at one time brings with it
a significant national security risk.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Now the Defense Department does possess highly secure video conferencing
technology that enables military officials, regardless of their location, to
discuss sensitive members with the White House, Pentagon are both, So.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
That's what's going to happen. It will be virtual.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Well, my question, ordering hundreds of military leaders to appear
in the same location is not how this is done.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
They say.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yeah, but I don't know if that means that they're
expressing frustration with it or they're clarifying that it's not
going to be all people in one point. One guy said,
you don't call general and flag officers leading their people
in the global force into an auditorium outside DC and
not tell them why or what the topic or agenda is. Right,

(11:28):
he did announce, He hag Seth Pete Haggsath did announce
a huge overhaul of American defense systems. And one of
the things that comes along with that is a cut
in staffering.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Staffing.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Sorry, that would include firing about one hundred generals and admirals.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
That can be an email, that can be a memo,
we are reducing the force.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
People are fired.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
An all hands on deck in person or even virtually
is unheard of.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Well, maybe it's not about Maybe it's not about book keeping,
Maybe it's about something significant.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
That's That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
One US official says, are we taking every general and
flag officer out of the Pacific?

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Right now? All of it is weird?

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, and uh.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
If you call me to an all hands on deck
meeting to tell me I'm fired, come on, f and
you right.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Further, You're gonna are fired in front of everyone.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Further, Well, it's not gonna be these people in the
room that are fired. It's gonna be people that they
are in charge of, the thousands of people they're in
charge of that would be getting those notices.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
I would assume.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah, I don't know how this is going to go.
But hey, he's the Secretary of Defense. He gets to
do this.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Again.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
I mean, General David Alvin, chief of the Staff of
the Air Force, announced last month he's gonna step down.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
He was asked to retire.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
But like, honestly, who the hell is Pete Haig seth
to come in and make those decisions. It's Secretary of Defense,
I know that, but take away that title. Who the
hell is Pete Haig set to come in? I'm not
saying he hasn't done a good job in this post,
but I'm certainly not trusting him with knowing what kind
of strength and power the military needs to have.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Eight months into his job.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
What did he do before this?

Speaker 2 (13:16):
He was on TV exactly. I mean, he's served in
the military. It's not like.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Served in the military.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Do you want him firing the chief of Staff of
the Air Force? No offense Elmer, but you know what
I mean, right, yeah, I want a guy who's like
four times Elmer's age making these decisions. And Pete Haig
sets to that to that point, well, we'll see, we'll
see what. We'll see what Tuesday brings. It's like coming

(13:45):
into this job and being like, m I'm gonna fire
John Cobalt, Like what your what?

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Get out of here?

Speaker 2 (13:52):
It did that? You've been here five minutes.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
H one BV says, we'll try to untangle some of
what's been done. The White House is talking about how
much H one B visas are going to caut and
why that's going to be a problem, could end up
sending jobs overseas.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
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Speaker 2 (14:16):
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Speaker 1 (14:18):
Am You people just wake up with back pain and
just you just wake up and a.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
Few people like people over fifty. Yeah, well you just
said you did something yesterday. You actually worked out yesterday.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah, But I don't know if it's that.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Or what were you doing. You made this motion, but
you were like just a row is there were.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Some back things. There are some back things that you.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Have weights in your hands at all. Yeah, ok, yeah,
like a standing, like a leaning. There are several different
things involving the back mind over row of some kind.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
But this, this feels, this feels like a new feeling.
This is I don't know, I think like a new
feeling tings of the old. No, that is no, thank
you to complaining.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
I know.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
I will fear gripping Houston. Sorry, it sounded like.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
A somewhere Mervyn Block is mad.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Fear gripping the city of Houston.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
After death toll mounts, there were some people are afraid
that there's this cialt That's what it was. Some people
are afraid there's a serial killer in Houston. Police have
confirmed that the remains of five people were discovered in
separate byous between September fifteenth and twentieth.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Those discoveries are only the latest.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
They said that so far in twenty twenty five, fourteen
bodies have been pulled from waterways in Houston.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Houston also has a high right of violent crime, including murder.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
There is that the mayor came out and said, guys,
this is not a serial killer.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
It's just normal murder.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
It's just Houston.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
It's just Houston.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Wake up and smell the Houston, all right.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
H one B visus there are a lot of them
making headlines because of the way the President has changed it.
As of Monday, they're going to cost one hundred thousand
dollars per worker.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
So these are the visas that people who are skilled
workers acquire to come to this country to work. The
hypothetical I've been using is the computer programmer in India
that comes here for a better life. And the whole
thing and the story on this side of it is

(16:27):
that startups in Silicon Valley or elsewhere are able to
hire workers, skilled workers for cheap because that's all you
can do when you have a startup.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
And the key there is the skilled I mean, the
people who have H one B visas have some sort
of theoretical or practical application of specialized knowledge or and
or the bachelor's degree or even higher degree in that
specific specialty that they're working on.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
The knock on this new one hundred thousand dollars price
tag is that the startups do not have the money
to pay that to bring the skilled worker in India here,
So he loses the American dream, the startup loses the
help and maybe doesn't become the startup.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
So that's what we're dealing with.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
On the flip side of the argument, it is Trump's
America First. We're going to find skilled workers in America,
and we're going to do that more and more so
that we can employ our own.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
Yeah, and one of the things about it is that
on its face sounds like a good idea. We need
to make sure that our people are the ones who
attain these positions as long as we have people who
have that practical knowledge, who have the highly specialized knowledge
and the degrees that go with it, to make our
companies better. If our companies can't find those foreign workers

(17:53):
or foreign owned companies. For example, one of them is
tata Is. It's a IT staffing company based in India.
Their American arm applied for almost ten thousand H one
B visa jobs. All of them were for jobs that
paid under two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. The

(18:15):
average salary was about eighty nine thousand as a matter
of fact. And for a company, because a company is
going to have to foot this bill. If a company
is going to foot the bill for one hundred thousand dollars,
they got to do the math on that and figure
out that the break even salary for someone who stays
that long would be about two hundred and twenty five
thousand dollars. And if the visa's renewed for another three

(18:36):
years that spreads out. That lowers the threshold to about
one hundred and eleven thousand. But is it going to
be worth it for American companies to flit the bill
for an H one B visa? They have to calculate
whatever the return is going to be. And if you're,
like I said, Tata, this Indian based company that has
an American arm, what's to stop them from just taking

(18:57):
those jobs and back to India?

Speaker 1 (19:00):
I can't continue without addressing the name of the company, Tata.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
What do you mean like tatas like the oh like that.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
Sometimes there is a twelve year old boy stuck in
that body.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
You were thinking it.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
I was thinking, you can't see and say Tata repeatedly
without thinking about tatas.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
But I was able to continue the story.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
I think that it's important to speak for everybody who
is here with us listening to the story. Heard Tata
and gingled a little bit and got distracted.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
About four point three million college educated people who work
in the United States are citizens of other countries. That's
about twice as much as what it used to be.
Four point three million. About three percent of the overall
workforce falls into that category. But when you look at
specific occupations, about one in four scientists in the United

(19:59):
States States is a citizen of another country, and one
in five computer programmers are college educated people from other countries.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
It seems like we need to do things on the
front and like do better at educating the people in
this country for those jobs before we start cutting off
all the people coming in to make America so great
when it comes to tech, how do we do that startups?
If you're going to decap the startups, we're not going
to be a great tech company.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, we want.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Them working for us. We want them here working for
us to make our companies great.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Yeah, because we we the United States, we would all
benefit from that sort right, all right, the elevator gate
has made me laugh out lausd scalator gate. Sorry, escalator gate.
Elevator would not have been as funny. Actually, that'd be
pretty good.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
If Track was trapped in an elevator with Millennia for
like an hour, we.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Need be hearing out about it.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah, we'll talk about escalator gate when we come back.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Can we have a moment for him?

Speaker 2 (21:02):
I have the sound for cal Rawley's home run you mean.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Yeah, the sixty Club big picture of the dropped an
F bomb on the that's his most game.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
He loves it. Yeah, and it made the reporter blush.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Well he kind of stole it from Was it Mooky
that did that? Mooky that that dropped the F bombs
in the postgame interviews?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Oh, I don't know, I don't know. We'll come back,
we'll talk about escalator gate.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
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Speaker 2 (21:38):
There was what is that? This is right down the
line by Jerry Rafferty.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
Oh, it's like seven something in the seventies.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, starts with a one ninety seven. We know that.
Let's see here. I can't wait to hear huh tingling
storm news. Yep ooh sixy time you got it? The
Fujiwara effects. Oh yeah, buckle up.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
He's right. It does kind of have a sexy ring
to it. Yeah, sounds dirty?

Speaker 2 (22:07):
What No, it doesn't. Oh wow? Why are you mad
at that?

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Because this is the second thing?

Speaker 5 (22:13):
What are you?

Speaker 4 (22:14):
And you're like, you can't say tautas without thinking about tautas?

Speaker 6 (22:18):
Hey, Gary shennon, I don't. I don't think the meaning is.
I think that this is all intended to be intelligence,
to be leaked this it's do you think Putin doesn't
know right now that that this announcement was made, this
request is made. It's to make him wonder what the
hell we're doing?

Speaker 1 (22:37):
This is?

Speaker 6 (22:38):
This is this is all for the rest of the
leaders of.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
The world to go, what the hell is Trump?

Speaker 5 (22:43):
Is he doing this?

Speaker 2 (22:43):
I like to make them wonder.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
I'll follow that chemtrail all day. It's an advanced move
if it's if it's true.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
It's advanced move. But it's not, is it. It's kind
of like uh Child's plays.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
A little too blatant, Yeah, little too heavy. Yeah, yeah,
that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
So this week President Trump spoke at the UN and
made a couple of quick comments about the teleprompter being
down and the escalator.

Speaker 7 (23:10):
All I got from the United Nations was an escalator
that on the way up stopped right in the middle.
If the first lady wasn't in great shape, she would
have fallen. But she's in great shape. We're both in
good shape. We both stood.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Those two things are not the same, but okay.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
And then a teleprompter that didn't work. This is These
are the two things I got from.

Speaker 7 (23:32):
The United Nations. A bad escalator and a bad teleprompter, Thank.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
You very much.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
The laughing is so uncomfortable for me, and it's uncomfortable
for them, which makes it uncomfortable. Like I don't think
they mean to laugh. It's just like this nervous, weird energy.
I've never heard the UN Assembly laughing before.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Well, and it's it's hard to gauge that, not that.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
I spend my time listening to Assembly meetings.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Any of those are.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
Foreign dignitaries, and how many of them are the American crowd,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
I don't know either.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
So the President took to truth Social to say a
real disgrace took place at the United Nations yesterday. Now
listen there literally there are some security issues with this,
but he says not one, not two, but three very
sinister events. The escalator going up to the main speaking
floor came to a screeching halt. It stopped on a dime.

(24:32):
It's amazing the Malani and I didn't fall forward under
the sharp edges of the steel steps face first. It
was only that we were each holding the handrail tightly,
or it would have been a disaster. I don't touch
those things. I don't know what people do on those things.
I do not touch those handrails on an escalator. That's
just me because you're not not clean and not and

(24:52):
I'm not a germ of you.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
You build fences with those hands? Have they gotten less soft?

Speaker 6 (24:59):
No?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
And were gloves.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
He said, this was absolutely sabotage, as noted by a
day's earlier post in The London Times that said UN
workers joked about turning off an escalator. Then, as I
stood before a television crowd of millions of people all
over the world, that might be a stretch and important
leaders in the hall.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
My teleprompter didn't work.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
It was stone cold dark, and I immediately thought to myself, Wow,
first the escalator event and now a bad teleprompter.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
What kind of a place is this.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
It is a common trick that pickpockets will use in Europe,
they'll shop the escalator.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Well, get yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
I mean there was no reaction from the Secret Service,
which I thought was weird, or maybe they reacted and
I don't know what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Well, how do you react to an escalator? Stop?

Speaker 4 (25:50):
And clearly you just walk up the escalator like its stairs. Yes,
but that's not what happened right away. Nobody said to him,
mister President, we need to keep moving. Just there, he
just stood there for a couple seconds. I mean they
did eventually obviously go up the steps, which what happens
when elis escalator had broken?

Speaker 2 (26:07):
He said. And the third thing, third sinister event.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
The third After making the speech, I was told that
the sound was completely off in the auditorium where the
speech was made. The world leaders, unless they used the
interpreter's earpieces, couldn't hear a thing. The first person I
saw at the conclusion of the speech was Milania, who
was sitting right up front and said, I said, how
did I do? And she said I couldn't hear a word.
You said, this wasn't a coincidence. This was triple sabotage.

(26:34):
At the un they will be looking at security tapes
at the escalator to see if somebody actually did something.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
But one of the explanations was.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
That a man in a blue suit was walking backward
at the top of the escalator when the President and
First Lady got on the bottom of the escalator, and
according to an escalator mechanic, this videographer holding a camera
heading backwards up most likely tripped on the comb plate

(27:07):
at the top landing. The comb plate is where the
stairs disappear, basically, and he said that stationary plate is
meant to prevent stuff from getting trapped in there, so
it's not going to chew your shoelaces or whatever. But
they said that a slight force on that plate, that
comb plate, can activate a safety switch which immediately stops

(27:30):
the escalator, so people.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Don't get chewed up in that thing. That's his explanation
of what he saw. All right, Well, I think we
can put that to bed, I hope.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
So all right, coming up next, Apparently, there were a
series of weaknesses that hindered Elie County's efforts to warn
and evacuate residents as that Eton fire erupted and furiously
moved through Altadena. We'll talk about what the weaknesses were
and what they're doing about it when we come back
to Gary and Shannon.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
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