May 21, 2025 • 29 mins
Newly-released videos show how possible fireworks could be behind destructive Palisades Fire. L.A. Zoo Elephants Billy, Tina Transferred to Tulsa Zoo Under Cover of Night. Key witness, 'intense' affair emerge as ex-MLB player's Tahoe murder trial begins. Is All of This Self-Monitoring Making Us Paranoid?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI
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Justin Warsham is going to join us.
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So we're going to revisit that story that we talked
about yesterday just a little bit in terms of teenagers
who drink alcohol with their parents' permission, what that sets
them up for and if you were in that kind
of a household where mom and dad were like, sure,
you can have one with us, or just as long
as you don't drive, or that sort of permissive attitude,
we'll talk about what that means. Southwest Airlines has a
(00:34):
new policy that we'll talk about during terror in the
skies that may surprise you. As far as I know,
it's the only air carrier that's doing this. Of course,
a nice warm day today. National Weather Services the heat
advisory is up for much of southern California today likely
the warmest day of the week. Tomorrow's going to remain
warm before it cools off a bit on Friday, which
(00:56):
of course means that our news and brews coming up
at Bravery Brewing in Lancaster is going to be absolutely gorgeous.
Shannon will be back for that. We are going to
have an absolute blast out there we always do. This
will be the sixth time that we've done an event
at Bravery Brewing. Our most common space when it comes
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have new swag that we're given away, new Gary and
Shannon show stuff, there's gonna be a lot of audience
interaction in this because Bravery is also giving away some swag.
They have gift cards and some of their great merchandise
that they have that they're going to be giving away.
Bravery Pizza Kitchen is going to be open and they
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have incredible Pizza Award winning pizza, so you can go
grab some lunch and hang out. The KFIPA launch will
be on Friday. They've been brewing a beer for us
for the last several years and this year's edition comes
out on Friday. And then at the end of our
live show, right at one o'clock, we're going to turn
around and record the Gas Weekend Fix, which is that
podcast episode that comes out on Saturdays but is not
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with some stuff on that that we wouldn't necessarily get
away with on a live radio show. But we're gonna
need you there. We're gonna need you there to help
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on Friday, a great way to kick off Memorial Day weekend.
There is new evidence that shows, or i should say
at least adds credence to the theory that the Palisades fire,
that incredibly destructive Palisades fire that broke out on January seventh,
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may have been smoldering for more than a week before that.
About five months after this, we're still trying to figure
out exactly what caused that fire, and the most logical
explanation now is that it was a fireworks fire from
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January first that still smoldered and when the winds roared
in on that morning of January seventh, reignited what was
a fire before. So you see, San Diego has a
whole series of cameras set up throughout the state of California,
and it's an incredible resource. It's also just kind of
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a neat time waster, at least not during fire season.
It's a neat time waster to see all of these.
I think hundreds of cameras posted in different places around California,
high on top of mountains. In some places they are
in more urban areas, but they are looking out at
the wildland to help detect fires before they start a
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lot of times when the TV cameras or when TV
stations do their coverage of a fire, they'll use these
cameras as a resource, and they'll use time lapse photography
and that sort of thing to show you the spread
of the fire. In this case, the videos from that
you see San Diego camera one of them that looks
from basically the four h five out to the west,
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over those mountains and out to the ocean. There is
clear evidence that that New Year's Eve fire was exactly
the same place that the January seventh fire started. Terry
Taylor is a retired fire investigator and talked to Channel
seven studied these two videos obtained by the San Francisco
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Chronicle side by side on the New Year's Day fire
again January first. It was very very early in that
morning and it was recorded right around midnight, so just
after midnight early January first, and you see a quick
flash on the ground and then a fire on the
top of a hill there that was called the Lachman Fire,
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sparked after neighbors said they heard fireworks in that area.
The same camera, that same exact camera, in the same
exact position, at about ten thirty on January seventh, showed
the first flames that became the Palisades Fire in exactly
the same location as the January first fire. Some experts
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who have looked at these videos say this absolutely adds
credence to the theory that the Palisades Fire was still
smoldering from the Lachman Fire when the winds came in
and blew this thing out of control. Just a few
days into the fires. There were satellite images that showed
the burn scar from January first and the beginning of
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what would become the Palisades Fire six days later, and
again it's in that same exact location. Everybody in the
Palisades believes this. Both of these fires still technically under investigation.
There is a question, obviously, after the fire was put
out on January first, fire crews stayed there. They continued
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to douse the hills. Is there a chance that they
missed a spot. As elementary as that sounds, that seems
to be the most likely explanation. They have yet to
connect these two fires officially, and the ATF is also
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investigating these fires to determine if, in fact they were connected.
But as of right now, all of those indicators and
this new big arrow of these two videos side by
side point to that being the case that the fire
itself was simply reignited from a fireworks fire on January First,
all right, Billy and Tina. When we started the show,
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we had no idea where Billy and Tina were. Now
we know exactly where those elephants are. They have not
been in the La Zoo for a day and a half.
They've been on the road. They took a road trip,
and they have shown up in Tulsa. We'll talk about
the middle of the night escape that these two well
escape probably not the right word. Where are the elephants?
(07:00):
We'll talk about it we come back. Also, a chance
for you to win a thousand dollars is coming up.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Some stories that are following President Trump used a White
House meeting today to confront South Africa's President Cyril Ramafosa.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
They're just wrapping that up now.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
But Trump accused South Africa of failing to address the
killing of white farmers. He said that people are fleeing
South Africa for their own safety, and at one point,
Trump even played a video of one of the communist
politicians from South Africa playing an anti apartheid song that
included lyrics about killing white farmers. The president of South
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Africa pushed back and said that we also have a
freedom of expression and we are completely opposed to that,
but he has the ability to say that sort of thing.
Trump administration says it has deported eight migrants convicted of
violent crimes in the US, but it's refusing to say
where they would eventually be taken. This was made as
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a judge ordered US officials to peer to an emergency
hearing to address reports that these migrants had been sent
to South Sudan. Of all places, we saw here in
southern California, just thirteen thousand, eight hundred homes change hands
in March, according to a new real estate data firm.
It's up about seventy two homes from last year, just
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about a half of percent, still the third lowest sorry,
third slowest sales tally for the month of March over
the last twenty years. March usually sees more than twenty
thousand closings in a month, but not this time. Well,
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An hour from now, I will give you another chance
to win one thousand dollars, and that would be nice
if you won. This morning, we didn't know where Tina
and Billy were. Billy and Tina, of course the elephants
out at the La Zoo. This has been sort of
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an interesting, if not an odd fight to get Billy
and Tina out of the elephant enclosure at the La
Zoo and send them to a sanctuary somewhere, but the
zoo wanted to send them to the Tulsa Zoo because
of their larger habitat that also has a bunch of
elephants in it. And as of yesterday, visitors to the
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La Zoo didn't see Billy and Tina in the elephant enclosure.
Also interesting, they apparent currently turned off the electric perimeter
fence around the elephant's enclosure yesterday. There were no keepers
elephant keepers walking around the enclosure yesterday, which led a
bunch of people to believe that Billy and Tina had
(10:13):
been elephant napped, elephant napped, or you know what I mean.
Corey Mack was interviewed by Katla this morning standing outside
the zoo and said she had been told the elephants
were there.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
That's often the case. The barn door was open yesterday,
it's air conditioned, it was a hot day, and many
patrons at the zoo often come and don't see the elephants.
It's not unusual for the elephants not to be out.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Now, the Tulsa Zoo and the LA Zoo say yeah,
they were not there because they were on a giant
road trip from La to Tulsa, Oklahoma. Billy and Tina
have arrived at the zoo in Tulsa, and they're going
to be held in quarantine, of course, to make sure
that they're not carrying any of the California hebgbis to
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the elephants that now live in the Tulsa Zoo. The
zoo had announced its decision to move them to the
Tulsa Zoo last month. A bunch of animal rights advocates,
a bunch of people I think I saw a tweet
from Alicia Silverstone this morning, last from the past, talking
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about the danger of moving them to the zoo and
advocating for them to be retired to a sanctuary. The
political advocacy group called Social Compassion in Legislation was the
first to show some of the empty enclosure pictures yesterday
from the La Zoo, demanding to know where in fact
the elephants are. Representatives from the La Zoo, the Tulsa Zoo,
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the Mayor's office. They were all very very quiet until
the transfer itself was completed. They did say that the
zoo the the transfer itself happened apparently very early yesterday morning,
like one thirty in the morning. They were loaded into
crates or a crate, probably two of them, put on
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the back of a big truck and hauled across the
beautiful desert landscape that exists between here and Tulsa. Stopped
many times. They fed them, they watered them, they took
care of them. And like I said, Billy and Tina
are now in Tulsa. The Great Elephant Caper has been solved.
Zoo officials said they're going to have a lot more
(12:32):
room to roam in the Tulsa enclosure, but they said
it is nearly impossible to humanely keep elephants in traditional zoos,
according to some of the animal advocates, So that long
drawn out saga of Billientina is over, at least the
LA chapter of it is, and if people want to
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go protest in Tulsa, they may do just that. There
is a strange story a court case up out of
the Tahoe area. A former Major League baseball player accused
of murder and attempted murder of his in laws up
in Lake Tahoe is taking place in a courthouse that
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looks like it was ripped out of a John Grisham novel.
I mean this courthouse up in Auburn, California is the
traditional two or three court room courthouses that was built
one hundred and fifty years ago something like that, and
it is the scene of this very strange trial again
of this ex baseball player accused of murder and attempted
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murder of his in laws. We'll talk about that case
when we come back.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
The Pentagon is now saying that Secretary of Defense Pete
Hegseth has accepted that Boeing seven forty seven from Cotter
the one to use as Air Force one. The Pentagon
spokesman said the department will work to ensure proper security
measures on that airplane it makes it safe for use
by The President said the plane was accepted in accordance
with all federal rules and regulations. The President has defended
(14:13):
this as a way to save money. This point hasn't
made sense to me, but others have raised concerns about
this being a violation of the prohibition on foreign gifts.
The way they're getting around that is by giving it
to the Air Force and not to Trump himself. They've
also noted they need to retrofit the plane to meet
security requirements. And as we mentioned before, they are working
(14:34):
on two new Air Force ones or planes that could
be Air Force one. They're going to have to take
the people off of those projects and put them on
this project to retrofit this one. So I don't know
how it necessarily saves money. We've said also that former
Congressman Jerry Connolly has died at the age of seventy five.
Died at his home this morning, surrounded by family members.
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Known as an outspoken Democrat, tried to get reforms in
the federal government, brought to transformational development to his district
there in the state of Virginia. Served as a ranking
member in the House Oversight Committee for a long time. Again,
he was seventy five years old. May not remember the
baseball career of Daniel Sarafini.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
He was a pitcher.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Came into the league I think late nineties, pitched for
probably about ten years in the major leagues, kind of
bounced around Japan, played in the Mexican League as well.
Daniel Sarafini opened a baseball academy.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
There's a handful of them around here in.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Southern California, if not more than a couple dozen, probably
in southern California. This one he opened in Sparks, Nevada.
The Throw like a pro baseball academy. He also owned
a bar up in Sparks, Nevada. He and his wife
owned this bar his and what I There's a strange
story that's playing out in northern California. On June fifth
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of twenty twenty one, Daniel Sarafini's in laws were shot.
Somebody broke into Gary Spore and Wendywood's home on the
west shore of Lake Tahoe, and Sarafini's father in law,
Gary died from a gunshot wound to his head. The
mother in law was wounded. She was shot twice. She
(16:24):
was able to call nine to one one was unable
to speak. She survived the shooting. Eventually, to add tragedy
to all of this, she was so depressed she committed
suicide later. But the Placer County Sheriff's Department eventually arrested
this guy October twentieth of twenty twenty three, more than
two years after the break in and the murders, and
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the way that they described this happening is a long
fight between Sarafini and his wife's parents. The fight began
after they got married in twenty twelve. The fights continued
after they had children, and as the prosecutor pointed out
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in opening statements this week, Sarafini allegedly told somebody that
he was going to pay twenty thousand dollars to have
his in laws killed. One picture that was shown to
the jury in this case was the couple Wendy and Gary,
again Daniel's in laws, standing in their driveway suntan summer
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attire June in Lake Tahoe.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
That picture was taken just a few hours before Gary
was shot and killed and Wendy was shot and injured.
The twist in this whole story is there's a nanny,
and the allegation is that Daniel Sarafini started having an
affair with his nanny hot and heavy, and that that
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nanny may have driven him to the murder scene and
driven him back afterwards. She originally was charged with murder,
and once she had a quick conversation with the Plaster
County DA's office, they decided that they were going to
change the charges against her. Now, they said that there
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was no promise for benefit or any leniency, that her
only obligation for that initial interview was to tell the truth. However,
she has some pretty damning testimony that is expected to
be the lynchpin in this case. The nanny met the
couple through the wife. The wife apparently owned some stables.
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She was boarding horses at the stables. She ended up
doing some bookkeeping work for them. The nanny ended up dropping.
They started this affair and it wasn't out of the
ordinary if Sarafini would ask the nanny to pick him
up drive him to Tahoe City to pick up a package.
Apparently they lived in Alco so he dropped off. Sorry,
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the nanny dropped off Sarafini at West Shore near the
Sunnyside Resort in Tahoe. The prosecutors say from there he
walked into the house, shot his two in laws, and
then left. That the nanny picked him up and that
she would testify that he started throwing pieces of that
twenty two caliber gun used in the shooting out the
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window of the car. That he also allegedly threw the
backpack and his shoes out the window. The investigators did
search along that stretch. I believe it's I eighty that
works through there. They didn't find any of that stuff.
There was also the affair that continued long after they
were still, long after they were in jail, they were
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somehow getting notes passed back and forth where he told
her to remain strong, They're going to be free, and
he wrote I love you. The fire captain that responded
to the scene was the last one on the stand yesterday.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
They're not in court today. They'll to resume testimony tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
The defense in this case is saying what you see
on the security video at that house in Tahoe is
not Daniel Sarafini, that he's too small, doesn't have the
same mannerisms that Daniel Sarafini has, and that he had
no reason to kill his in laws. The in laws,
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by the way, were pretty generous with their wealth. They
gave a ninety thousand dollars check to their daughter the
day of the shooting. In addition, they said that Daniel
Sarafini was not the beneficiary or not a beneficiary in
the in law's will. I don't know how strange that
might be or not, but this is all taking place
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in old historic Auburn Courthouse, which looks like it was
built in the eighteen forties and it is an incredible
piece of architecture up in northern California. But that's where
this trial is taking place. Like I said, no court today,
but they will be back in tomorrow for this former
Major League baseball player now charged with murder. Do you
have one of those a whoop or a ring or
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one of those trackers that's keeping track of your pulse rate,
your oxygen, how many steps you take, all of that
sort of stuff. There is an argument that these wearable
devices are making us paranoid about our health. We'll talk
about that when we come back. Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
President Trump was suggesting that there is a whole campaign
of genocide going on against white farmers in South Africa.
So we'll talk about that and what it is that
the South African president said. In response, also some of
the latest information about that Katari seven forty seven that
is supposed to be coming to the United States.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
That's coming up. All right, I have one.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I have one of those little wearable rings that will
track my biometric data. It tells me things like body temperature,
heart rate, blood oxygen levels. It tells me when I
took a nap, It tells me when I slept and
how long I slept at all of that stuff. I
had a very strange moment. I think I said this
on the air a couple days ago. I had a
very strange moment a couple of weeks back when it
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told me that I might be pregnant. There in the mornings,
you get up and if you think about it, I
will you open up the app and it'll tell me
that you slept seven hours last night or five hours
or whatever, and sort of give you the breakdown of
how your sleep went, when you were in rem sleep,
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how long it took you to fall asleep. But it
noticed that my heart rate was elevated through most of
that night. Well, I had a couple of beers the
night before, and that keeps your heart rate eight elevated.
But it also said that hormonal changes in a pregnant
body can elevate your heart rate, so.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I checked. I'm not.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
If you know that you slept six and a half
hours last night, but the twelve percent of those hours
were sprent in rem sleep, and your sleep efficiency was
eighty five percent. What do you feel better about the day.
There's a new concern that all of this wearable tech
that we have, whether it's an AURA ring or a
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whoop bracelet or any of that sort of thing, that
wearable health technology becomes more popular, people like me might
struggle with the psychological side effect of a device. There's
a twenty six year old author said she was checking
her heart rate all the time after she got her
AURA ring, and when she would raise concerns about her
(23:54):
elevated heart rate with a doctor during the routine checkup,
the doctor would say, calm down. She said, they were
anti AORA ring. The doctor was, this is not necessary
information for a healthy, able bodied person to have. I
think I am an healthy, able bodied person. But I
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got this mostly because I wanted to see what I
did when I slept. Sometimes I wake up and you
got that feeling like, you know what, I was awake
all night long. Your ring would tell you or you're wearable,
whatever it is would tell you, No, you slept five
or six hours. It's just when you were awake, you
were really awake. You never really went back into that
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deep sleep. There's A physician's assistant out of Pittsburgh said
she found that this knowledge, the quantification of her knowledge
that she wasn't sleeping well, made it even harder for
her to get rest. That she was thinking about what
kind of a score she was going to get the
next day before she went to bed, and that would
keep her up because the anxiety of whatever score she.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Was going to get.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
She said she bought a wearable after she gave birth
and was staying up at night because she was nursing.
And again, this is a PA, this is a physician's
assistant said. It puts action behind things that should be innate,
reminding you to rest, reminding you to sleep, all of
these things that shouldn't be innate practices, making them things
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that you're trying to hit as a goal.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
What you're working hard at, something you're not actually resting.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
If you're working hard at sleeping, by definition, you're not sleeping.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Now.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
What I've found is this thing will give you suggestions
like if you're sitting on your ass too long, it'll say, hey,
time for a stretch, Or if you are close to
achieving whatever activity goal you have during the day, it'll
say Hey, all you need to do is mix in
about a ten minute walk and you're going to be
just fine. You'll close that ring, or you'll hit that mark,
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or you'll make your goal, whatever it is. There is
another aspect of this that people are using these wearables for,
and that is family planning. I mean, granted, it told
me I was pregnant, so I'm not sure how accurate
it is. But there is another woman, a bakery owner
lives in New Orleans, got a ring to use the
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device's temperature tracking feature for family planning. She said she
liked the idea of just throwing a ring on and
not having to worry about pulling the thermometer out every day,
but she said she's disenchanted because the regular reminders reinforced
her what she already knew, which was her body was
stressed out, that she was in maximum overdrive, and that
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when she would see that and the ring or the
app would tell her that she's overdoing it, she would
feel more anxious about it, and that it gave her
an upset person like her. The wildly unhelpful device that
she just quote calmed down the idea that you have
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that much information about your body can be stressful for
people who take it way too seriously. If you're just
interested and you're not obsessing over it, and you're not
opening that app all the time, it's probably fine. It's
probably fine. If you have problems with sleep and you're
trying to figure out what's the best When do I exercise,
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when do I eat, and how does it affect what
I sleep, that's perfectly fine. But you start using this
thing on a daily, hourly basis in some cases to
check on your vital statistics, you're going to drive yourself crazy.
That's going to up your stress scores.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
And that's just.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
A bio feedback loop that you get into swamp Watch.
When we come back, a reminder that Friday is our
News and Bruis. We're going to be live doing the
show out on the patio at Bravery Brewing up in Lancaster.
Should be an absolutely gorgeous day out there. Not only
do we do the show during the commercial breaks, we
have some special stuff that we're going to be doing
for the people who are in the building or on
(28:04):
the patio. We have stuff that we're giving away Gary
and Shannon Show swag. Bravery Brewing is putting up some
of their swag that they're going to be giving away.
They have some gift cards that would be available the KFIPA.
This year's edition of the beer that they've brewed for
us debuts on Friday, and the Bravery Pizza Kitchen will
be open award winning pizza for you to indulge in.
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And then at one o'clock, right after our nine news
nuggets and what you learned this week on The Gary
and Shannon Show, we're going to get into this week's
edition of The Gary and Shannon Show Weekend Fix, which
is the podcast that only airs on the weekend. You
don't hear that stuff during the week, and there's some
reasons for it, but it's going to be a heavy
audience participation episode of the Gas Weekend Fix, so you
(28:48):
want to be there to do that with us. Friday,
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Gary and Shannon will continue right after this. You've been
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Justin Warsham is going to join us.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
So we're going to revisit that story that we talked
about yesterday just a little bit in terms of teenagers
who drink alcohol with their parents' permission, what that sets
them up for and if you were in that kind
of a household where mom and dad were like, sure,
you can have one with us, or just as long
as you don't drive, or that sort of permissive attitude,
we'll talk about what that means. Southwest Airlines has a
(00:34):
new policy that we'll talk about during terror in the
skies that may surprise you. As far as I know,
it's the only air carrier that's doing this. Of course,
a nice warm day today. National Weather Services the heat
advisory is up for much of southern California today likely
the warmest day of the week. Tomorrow's going to remain
warm before it cools off a bit on Friday, which
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of course means that our news and brews coming up
at Bravery Brewing in Lancaster is going to be absolutely gorgeous.
Shannon will be back for that. We are going to
have an absolute blast out there we always do. This
will be the sixth time that we've done an event
at Bravery Brewing. Our most common space when it comes
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to our news and bruis So not only do we
have new swag that we're given away, new Gary and
Shannon show stuff, there's gonna be a lot of audience
interaction in this because Bravery is also giving away some swag.
They have gift cards and some of their great merchandise
that they have that they're going to be giving away.
Bravery Pizza Kitchen is going to be open and they
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There is new evidence that shows, or i should say
at least adds credence to the theory that the Palisades fire,
that incredibly destructive Palisades fire that broke out on January seventh,
(02:39):
may have been smoldering for more than a week before that.
About five months after this, we're still trying to figure
out exactly what caused that fire, and the most logical
explanation now is that it was a fireworks fire from
(03:00):
January first that still smoldered and when the winds roared
in on that morning of January seventh, reignited what was
a fire before. So you see, San Diego has a
whole series of cameras set up throughout the state of California,
and it's an incredible resource. It's also just kind of
(03:22):
a neat time waster, at least not during fire season.
It's a neat time waster to see all of these.
I think hundreds of cameras posted in different places around California,
high on top of mountains. In some places they are
in more urban areas, but they are looking out at
the wildland to help detect fires before they start a
(03:44):
lot of times when the TV cameras or when TV
stations do their coverage of a fire, they'll use these
cameras as a resource, and they'll use time lapse photography
and that sort of thing to show you the spread
of the fire. In this case, the videos from that
you see San Diego camera one of them that looks
from basically the four h five out to the west,
(04:05):
over those mountains and out to the ocean. There is
clear evidence that that New Year's Eve fire was exactly
the same place that the January seventh fire started. Terry
Taylor is a retired fire investigator and talked to Channel
seven studied these two videos obtained by the San Francisco
(04:27):
Chronicle side by side on the New Year's Day fire
again January first. It was very very early in that
morning and it was recorded right around midnight, so just
after midnight early January first, and you see a quick
flash on the ground and then a fire on the
top of a hill there that was called the Lachman Fire,
(04:49):
sparked after neighbors said they heard fireworks in that area.
The same camera, that same exact camera, in the same
exact position, at about ten thirty on January seventh, showed
the first flames that became the Palisades Fire in exactly
the same location as the January first fire. Some experts
(05:12):
who have looked at these videos say this absolutely adds
credence to the theory that the Palisades Fire was still
smoldering from the Lachman Fire when the winds came in
and blew this thing out of control. Just a few
days into the fires. There were satellite images that showed
the burn scar from January first and the beginning of
(05:34):
what would become the Palisades Fire six days later, and
again it's in that same exact location. Everybody in the
Palisades believes this. Both of these fires still technically under investigation.
There is a question, obviously, after the fire was put
out on January first, fire crews stayed there. They continued
(05:55):
to douse the hills. Is there a chance that they
missed a spot. As elementary as that sounds, that seems
to be the most likely explanation. They have yet to
connect these two fires officially, and the ATF is also
(06:16):
investigating these fires to determine if, in fact they were connected.
But as of right now, all of those indicators and
this new big arrow of these two videos side by
side point to that being the case that the fire
itself was simply reignited from a fireworks fire on January First,
all right, Billy and Tina. When we started the show,
(06:39):
we had no idea where Billy and Tina were. Now
we know exactly where those elephants are. They have not
been in the La Zoo for a day and a half.
They've been on the road. They took a road trip,
and they have shown up in Tulsa. We'll talk about
the middle of the night escape that these two well
escape probably not the right word. Where are the elephants?
(07:00):
We'll talk about it we come back. Also, a chance
for you to win a thousand dollars is coming up.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Some stories that are following President Trump used a White
House meeting today to confront South Africa's President Cyril Ramafosa.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
They're just wrapping that up now.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
But Trump accused South Africa of failing to address the
killing of white farmers. He said that people are fleeing
South Africa for their own safety, and at one point,
Trump even played a video of one of the communist
politicians from South Africa playing an anti apartheid song that
included lyrics about killing white farmers. The president of South
(07:44):
Africa pushed back and said that we also have a
freedom of expression and we are completely opposed to that,
but he has the ability to say that sort of thing.
Trump administration says it has deported eight migrants convicted of
violent crimes in the US, but it's refusing to say
where they would eventually be taken. This was made as
(08:04):
a judge ordered US officials to peer to an emergency
hearing to address reports that these migrants had been sent
to South Sudan. Of all places, we saw here in
southern California, just thirteen thousand, eight hundred homes change hands
in March, according to a new real estate data firm.
It's up about seventy two homes from last year, just
(08:25):
about a half of percent, still the third lowest sorry,
third slowest sales tally for the month of March over
the last twenty years. March usually sees more than twenty
thousand closings in a month, but not this time. Well,
we know where Billy and Tina went. We'll tell you
after we give you one thousand dollars.
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An hour from now, I will give you another chance
to win one thousand dollars, and that would be nice
if you won. This morning, we didn't know where Tina
and Billy were. Billy and Tina, of course the elephants
out at the La Zoo. This has been sort of
(09:29):
an interesting, if not an odd fight to get Billy
and Tina out of the elephant enclosure at the La
Zoo and send them to a sanctuary somewhere, but the
zoo wanted to send them to the Tulsa Zoo because
of their larger habitat that also has a bunch of
elephants in it. And as of yesterday, visitors to the
(09:52):
La Zoo didn't see Billy and Tina in the elephant enclosure.
Also interesting, they apparent currently turned off the electric perimeter
fence around the elephant's enclosure yesterday. There were no keepers
elephant keepers walking around the enclosure yesterday, which led a
bunch of people to believe that Billy and Tina had
(10:13):
been elephant napped, elephant napped, or you know what I mean.
Corey Mack was interviewed by Katla this morning standing outside
the zoo and said she had been told the elephants
were there.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
That's often the case. The barn door was open yesterday,
it's air conditioned, it was a hot day, and many
patrons at the zoo often come and don't see the elephants.
It's not unusual for the elephants not to be out.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Now, the Tulsa Zoo and the LA Zoo say yeah,
they were not there because they were on a giant
road trip from La to Tulsa, Oklahoma. Billy and Tina
have arrived at the zoo in Tulsa, and they're going
to be held in quarantine, of course, to make sure
that they're not carrying any of the California hebgbis to
(11:05):
the elephants that now live in the Tulsa Zoo. The
zoo had announced its decision to move them to the
Tulsa Zoo last month. A bunch of animal rights advocates,
a bunch of people I think I saw a tweet
from Alicia Silverstone this morning, last from the past, talking
(11:26):
about the danger of moving them to the zoo and
advocating for them to be retired to a sanctuary. The
political advocacy group called Social Compassion in Legislation was the
first to show some of the empty enclosure pictures yesterday
from the La Zoo, demanding to know where in fact
the elephants are. Representatives from the La Zoo, the Tulsa Zoo,
(11:50):
the Mayor's office. They were all very very quiet until
the transfer itself was completed. They did say that the
zoo the the transfer itself happened apparently very early yesterday morning,
like one thirty in the morning. They were loaded into
crates or a crate, probably two of them, put on
(12:11):
the back of a big truck and hauled across the
beautiful desert landscape that exists between here and Tulsa. Stopped
many times. They fed them, they watered them, they took
care of them. And like I said, Billy and Tina
are now in Tulsa. The Great Elephant Caper has been solved.
Zoo officials said they're going to have a lot more
(12:32):
room to roam in the Tulsa enclosure, but they said
it is nearly impossible to humanely keep elephants in traditional zoos,
according to some of the animal advocates, So that long
drawn out saga of Billientina is over, at least the
LA chapter of it is, and if people want to
(12:53):
go protest in Tulsa, they may do just that. There
is a strange story a court case up out of
the Tahoe area. A former Major League baseball player accused
of murder and attempted murder of his in laws up
in Lake Tahoe is taking place in a courthouse that
(13:15):
looks like it was ripped out of a John Grisham novel.
I mean this courthouse up in Auburn, California is the
traditional two or three court room courthouses that was built
one hundred and fifty years ago something like that, and
it is the scene of this very strange trial again
of this ex baseball player accused of murder and attempted
(13:38):
murder of his in laws. We'll talk about that case
when we come back.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
The Pentagon is now saying that Secretary of Defense Pete
Hegseth has accepted that Boeing seven forty seven from Cotter
the one to use as Air Force one. The Pentagon
spokesman said the department will work to ensure proper security
measures on that airplane it makes it safe for use
by The President said the plane was accepted in accordance
with all federal rules and regulations. The President has defended
(14:13):
this as a way to save money. This point hasn't
made sense to me, but others have raised concerns about
this being a violation of the prohibition on foreign gifts.
The way they're getting around that is by giving it
to the Air Force and not to Trump himself. They've
also noted they need to retrofit the plane to meet
security requirements. And as we mentioned before, they are working
(14:34):
on two new Air Force ones or planes that could
be Air Force one. They're going to have to take
the people off of those projects and put them on
this project to retrofit this one. So I don't know
how it necessarily saves money. We've said also that former
Congressman Jerry Connolly has died at the age of seventy five.
Died at his home this morning, surrounded by family members.
(14:55):
Known as an outspoken Democrat, tried to get reforms in
the federal government, brought to transformational development to his district
there in the state of Virginia. Served as a ranking
member in the House Oversight Committee for a long time. Again,
he was seventy five years old. May not remember the
baseball career of Daniel Sarafini.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
He was a pitcher.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Came into the league I think late nineties, pitched for
probably about ten years in the major leagues, kind of
bounced around Japan, played in the Mexican League as well.
Daniel Sarafini opened a baseball academy.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
There's a handful of them around here in.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Southern California, if not more than a couple dozen, probably
in southern California. This one he opened in Sparks, Nevada.
The Throw like a pro baseball academy. He also owned
a bar up in Sparks, Nevada. He and his wife
owned this bar his and what I There's a strange
story that's playing out in northern California. On June fifth
(16:03):
of twenty twenty one, Daniel Sarafini's in laws were shot.
Somebody broke into Gary Spore and Wendywood's home on the
west shore of Lake Tahoe, and Sarafini's father in law,
Gary died from a gunshot wound to his head. The
mother in law was wounded. She was shot twice. She
(16:24):
was able to call nine to one one was unable
to speak. She survived the shooting. Eventually, to add tragedy
to all of this, she was so depressed she committed
suicide later. But the Placer County Sheriff's Department eventually arrested
this guy October twentieth of twenty twenty three, more than
two years after the break in and the murders, and
(16:49):
the way that they described this happening is a long
fight between Sarafini and his wife's parents. The fight began
after they got married in twenty twelve. The fights continued
after they had children, and as the prosecutor pointed out
(17:10):
in opening statements this week, Sarafini allegedly told somebody that
he was going to pay twenty thousand dollars to have
his in laws killed. One picture that was shown to
the jury in this case was the couple Wendy and Gary,
again Daniel's in laws, standing in their driveway suntan summer
(17:32):
attire June in Lake Tahoe.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
That picture was taken just a few hours before Gary
was shot and killed and Wendy was shot and injured.
The twist in this whole story is there's a nanny,
and the allegation is that Daniel Sarafini started having an
affair with his nanny hot and heavy, and that that
(18:00):
nanny may have driven him to the murder scene and
driven him back afterwards. She originally was charged with murder,
and once she had a quick conversation with the Plaster
County DA's office, they decided that they were going to
change the charges against her. Now, they said that there
(18:22):
was no promise for benefit or any leniency, that her
only obligation for that initial interview was to tell the truth. However,
she has some pretty damning testimony that is expected to
be the lynchpin in this case. The nanny met the
couple through the wife. The wife apparently owned some stables.
(18:45):
She was boarding horses at the stables. She ended up
doing some bookkeeping work for them. The nanny ended up dropping.
They started this affair and it wasn't out of the
ordinary if Sarafini would ask the nanny to pick him
up drive him to Tahoe City to pick up a package.
Apparently they lived in Alco so he dropped off. Sorry,
(19:08):
the nanny dropped off Sarafini at West Shore near the
Sunnyside Resort in Tahoe. The prosecutors say from there he
walked into the house, shot his two in laws, and
then left. That the nanny picked him up and that
she would testify that he started throwing pieces of that
twenty two caliber gun used in the shooting out the
(19:32):
window of the car. That he also allegedly threw the
backpack and his shoes out the window. The investigators did
search along that stretch. I believe it's I eighty that
works through there. They didn't find any of that stuff.
There was also the affair that continued long after they
were still, long after they were in jail, they were
(19:53):
somehow getting notes passed back and forth where he told
her to remain strong, They're going to be free, and
he wrote I love you. The fire captain that responded
to the scene was the last one on the stand yesterday.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
They're not in court today. They'll to resume testimony tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
The defense in this case is saying what you see
on the security video at that house in Tahoe is
not Daniel Sarafini, that he's too small, doesn't have the
same mannerisms that Daniel Sarafini has, and that he had
no reason to kill his in laws. The in laws,
(20:36):
by the way, were pretty generous with their wealth. They
gave a ninety thousand dollars check to their daughter the
day of the shooting. In addition, they said that Daniel
Sarafini was not the beneficiary or not a beneficiary in
the in law's will. I don't know how strange that
might be or not, but this is all taking place
(20:59):
in old historic Auburn Courthouse, which looks like it was
built in the eighteen forties and it is an incredible
piece of architecture up in northern California. But that's where
this trial is taking place. Like I said, no court today,
but they will be back in tomorrow for this former
Major League baseball player now charged with murder. Do you
have one of those a whoop or a ring or
(21:24):
one of those trackers that's keeping track of your pulse rate,
your oxygen, how many steps you take, all of that
sort of stuff. There is an argument that these wearable
devices are making us paranoid about our health. We'll talk
about that when we come back. Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
President Trump was suggesting that there is a whole campaign
of genocide going on against white farmers in South Africa.
So we'll talk about that and what it is that
the South African president said. In response, also some of
the latest information about that Katari seven forty seven that
is supposed to be coming to the United States.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
That's coming up. All right, I have one.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I have one of those little wearable rings that will
track my biometric data. It tells me things like body temperature,
heart rate, blood oxygen levels. It tells me when I
took a nap, It tells me when I slept and
how long I slept at all of that stuff. I
had a very strange moment. I think I said this
on the air a couple days ago. I had a
very strange moment a couple of weeks back when it
(22:32):
told me that I might be pregnant. There in the mornings,
you get up and if you think about it, I
will you open up the app and it'll tell me
that you slept seven hours last night or five hours
or whatever, and sort of give you the breakdown of
how your sleep went, when you were in rem sleep,
(22:52):
how long it took you to fall asleep. But it
noticed that my heart rate was elevated through most of
that night. Well, I had a couple of beers the
night before, and that keeps your heart rate eight elevated.
But it also said that hormonal changes in a pregnant
body can elevate your heart rate, so.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I checked. I'm not.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
If you know that you slept six and a half
hours last night, but the twelve percent of those hours
were sprent in rem sleep, and your sleep efficiency was
eighty five percent. What do you feel better about the day.
There's a new concern that all of this wearable tech
that we have, whether it's an AURA ring or a
(23:31):
whoop bracelet or any of that sort of thing, that
wearable health technology becomes more popular, people like me might
struggle with the psychological side effect of a device. There's
a twenty six year old author said she was checking
her heart rate all the time after she got her
AURA ring, and when she would raise concerns about her
(23:54):
elevated heart rate with a doctor during the routine checkup,
the doctor would say, calm down. She said, they were
anti AORA ring. The doctor was, this is not necessary
information for a healthy, able bodied person to have. I
think I am an healthy, able bodied person. But I
(24:16):
got this mostly because I wanted to see what I
did when I slept. Sometimes I wake up and you
got that feeling like, you know what, I was awake
all night long. Your ring would tell you or you're wearable,
whatever it is would tell you, No, you slept five
or six hours. It's just when you were awake, you
were really awake. You never really went back into that
(24:37):
deep sleep. There's A physician's assistant out of Pittsburgh said
she found that this knowledge, the quantification of her knowledge
that she wasn't sleeping well, made it even harder for
her to get rest. That she was thinking about what
kind of a score she was going to get the
next day before she went to bed, and that would
keep her up because the anxiety of whatever score she.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Was going to get.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
She said she bought a wearable after she gave birth
and was staying up at night because she was nursing.
And again, this is a PA, this is a physician's
assistant said. It puts action behind things that should be innate,
reminding you to rest, reminding you to sleep, all of
these things that shouldn't be innate practices, making them things
(25:23):
that you're trying to hit as a goal.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
What you're working hard at, something you're not actually resting.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
If you're working hard at sleeping, by definition, you're not sleeping.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Now.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
What I've found is this thing will give you suggestions
like if you're sitting on your ass too long, it'll say, hey,
time for a stretch, Or if you are close to
achieving whatever activity goal you have during the day, it'll
say Hey, all you need to do is mix in
about a ten minute walk and you're going to be
just fine. You'll close that ring, or you'll hit that mark,
(25:56):
or you'll make your goal, whatever it is. There is
another aspect of this that people are using these wearables for,
and that is family planning. I mean, granted, it told
me I was pregnant, so I'm not sure how accurate
it is. But there is another woman, a bakery owner
lives in New Orleans, got a ring to use the
(26:18):
device's temperature tracking feature for family planning. She said she
liked the idea of just throwing a ring on and
not having to worry about pulling the thermometer out every day,
but she said she's disenchanted because the regular reminders reinforced
her what she already knew, which was her body was
stressed out, that she was in maximum overdrive, and that
(26:40):
when she would see that and the ring or the
app would tell her that she's overdoing it, she would
feel more anxious about it, and that it gave her
an upset person like her. The wildly unhelpful device that
she just quote calmed down the idea that you have
(27:06):
that much information about your body can be stressful for
people who take it way too seriously. If you're just
interested and you're not obsessing over it, and you're not
opening that app all the time, it's probably fine. It's
probably fine. If you have problems with sleep and you're
trying to figure out what's the best When do I exercise,
(27:27):
when do I eat, and how does it affect what
I sleep, that's perfectly fine. But you start using this
thing on a daily, hourly basis in some cases to
check on your vital statistics, you're going to drive yourself crazy.
That's going to up your stress scores.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
And that's just.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
A bio feedback loop that you get into swamp Watch.
When we come back, a reminder that Friday is our
News and Bruis. We're going to be live doing the
show out on the patio at Bravery Brewing up in Lancaster.
Should be an absolutely gorgeous day out there. Not only
do we do the show during the commercial breaks, we
have some special stuff that we're going to be doing
for the people who are in the building or on
(28:04):
the patio. We have stuff that we're giving away Gary
and Shannon Show swag. Bravery Brewing is putting up some
of their swag that they're going to be giving away.
They have some gift cards that would be available the KFIPA.
This year's edition of the beer that they've brewed for
us debuts on Friday, and the Bravery Pizza Kitchen will
be open award winning pizza for you to indulge in.
(28:25):
And then at one o'clock, right after our nine news
nuggets and what you learned this week on The Gary
and Shannon Show, we're going to get into this week's
edition of The Gary and Shannon Show Weekend Fix, which
is the podcast that only airs on the weekend. You
don't hear that stuff during the week, and there's some
reasons for it, but it's going to be a heavy
audience participation episode of the Gas Weekend Fix, so you
(28:48):
want to be there to do that with us. Friday,
the News and Brews Bravery brought Bravery Brewing up in Lancaster.
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