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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is handle on the law, marginal legal advice where
I tell you you have no case. There is a
fun case. And this has to do with a trademark.
Usually trademark cases they're kind of boring. I'll get phone
calls and sometimes that's a trademark case. Not interested. And
trademarks are phrases, for example, that are unique. Some of
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them you can say are general use describing virtually everything,
and the courts will say, nah, that can't be trademarked,
it is too generic. They're also in Europe. If you
try to trademark, there is the European Union that controls it.
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So it's all the countries in Europe who belong to
the EU. If there is a trademark violation or you're
arguing that you should have a trademark, you go in
front of the EU. So this has to do with Ukraine.
Ukraine's border guards and the border guards sort of their
army for the border guards and there. If you remember
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when Ukraine was first invaded by Russia, the very first
part of Ukraine that was invaded was Snake Island, this
little tiny island that had several of Ukrainian border guards
guarding it, and there was a Russian warship that pulled
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up and called for the surrender of these several Ukrainian
border Guard troops and the cry back, and this was
done with loud speakers saying Russian warship, go f yourself.
And they used the for full F word and it man.
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It exploded all over the world, and there were t
shirts and there were memes. And what the Ukrainian Border
Guards did is they asked for a trademark Russian warship,
go f yourself. And the European Union said, Nah, you
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can't trademark it because it is a political slogan, and
you cannot trademark political slogan. The General Court of the
European Union said, the phrase quickly became a symbol of
Ukraine's fight against Russian aggression, that is one percent political,
and therefore it cannot be trademarked at all. They were
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going to use that trademark we're talking about the Border
Guard of Ukraine to sell all kinds of merch, all
kinds of publishing. They were going to use it for education, entertainment,
even sports services. And the court ruled that the trademark
of that phrase would fail to fulfill its essential function,
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and what consumers would do is perceive a political message
rather than a commercial message, and commercial messages are allowed.
Coca Cola, you know, we're the best coal in the world,
or whateever. You can think of private or public companies
trademarking various phrases describing what they do, and this becomes
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a political slogan kind of interesting stuff. So no trademark
for you, even though everybody loves that phrase. Russians Russian worship.
Go f yourself. Okay, let let's do it. We've got
few phone calls. Uh yeah, let me think. Okay, Gabriela,
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we'll start with you. Hey, Gabriela or Gabriella, what can
I do for you?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Phil, thank you so much for taking my call. My
eighteen year old son got in a solo car accident
last Christmas Day. He ran head on into a pole.
Thank god he wasn't hurt or his girlfriend, but the
poll got knocked down and insurance company contacted me that
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the city is demanding an additional nine thousand dollars nine
thousand plus. The insurance covered ten grand of the damage
to the pole, so now the city is coming after
my son for additional damages.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Okay, that's the window. So they paid. They paid the
city nine thousand dollars. They paid the city what eight
thousand dollars for a nine thousand dollars poll.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
They paid the city ten grand, which was what are policies?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Okay? And okay, your policy limits? And they want an
additional nine nine now, and the city accepted the ten
thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
They but they want an additional nine.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Okay, But I'm assuming they didn't cash the check.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, probably not, yeah, probably not. Well, here's the policy.
If you only have ten thousand dollars, you have ten
thousand dollars and that's all the insurance company is going
to pay. And so the city at this point has
its choice. Do they accept the ten thousand dollars from
the insurance company and then it's over, or do they say, no,
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we want nineteen thousand dollars for you from the poll
and they go ahead and file acclaim. It can actually
sue you for the amount of money. It's kind of weird.
Ten thousand dollars in property damage? Are their defenses to that?
Can you argue the pole jumped in front of the car.
I will try that. No, that probably won't work. Okay, yeah,
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I mean your kid damaged the pole. It's nineteen thousand
dollars that you can negotiate it. You can call the
city and say, hey, I don't have any money, I'm
eighteen years old. Take the ten thousand dollars and leave
me alone. You're I mean, you're probably gonna negotiate with
whatever administrative agency that deals with polls being run over
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by cars. I don't know what that is. Maybe the
city attorney's office. I have no idea, but yeah, they
can do that. If your kid did that much damage,
they don't have to take what the insurance says. They
can go after the kid, but they will. They there's
no money there.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
The city refused to negotiate.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
My son called okay, well that's a problem. Then that's
a problem. If they don't want to negotiate and they
want their nineteen thousand dollars and let the city go
after your son. The city that's what they're gonna do.
There's not much you can do.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Are we better off just agreeing to pay than I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
You can cut you know, you can try to cut
a deal with the city, have him argue I have
no money. You're never going to see a dime of
it because I am broke, I have eighteen years old
and maybe maybe they're going to file a lawsuit and
get a judgment which stays with your kid for ten
years and and he goes bankrupt on them and they
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won't see a dime. I mean, it's in the fact
the city says they're not negotiating. Just start talking to
everybody over there. But legally, your kids kind of screwed.
And so what's the takeaway? Don't run into polls. Okay,
that's the takeaway.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
The insurance company peter to say that they would offer
legal representation if my son wanted that.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
You have to.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
They have to.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
They have to.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
If the city suites, okay, yeah, but again, all they're
going to pay is ten thousand dollars. That's it. Those
are your policy limits. Your insurance company doesn't have to
pay a dime more than that because those are that's
the kind of insurance, or that's limited insurance that you
paid for. Ricky, Hi, Ricky, what can I do for you?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (07:59):
Iding So if the men and his brothers ever were
released from prison, would they become millionaires?
Speaker 7 (08:05):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
That's a good question. Actually, normally, I just I don't
go into these big, you know, policy questions. So you're
talking about inheriting the money that their parents have the
estate or selling their story.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Yeah, well, inheriting any money that their fathers.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, I don't think so, because if their conviction still
stands that you can't inherit money. You can inherit by
killing someone. If you are a beneficiary, the law doesn't
let you do that. The other side of it, they
can't sell their story. They can't benefit in terms of
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the value of what they did and their story. So
both sides, the answer is no, Oh that's great.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
So hopefully they'll end up on skid row.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Well, and you know, they they may not. They may
not because they have a lot of family that believes
that they have paid the price that there was some genuine,
genuine assault by sexual assault and physical assault as well
as emotional salt assault by their dad. So and they
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spent thirty five years in prison. If they get released,
so you know, that's a different story. Yeah, okay, I
rarely rarely do that, but that's kind of neat. Uh Devon,
Hi Devon.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
Hey, good morning, being Yes sir, quick question, quick question
for you brother. The state of California not recently been,
but has banned mythow cigarettes. Yes, all other cigarettes are
completely legal to smoke.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
My question is is it legal for the state to
ban these cigarettes when?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (09:53):
When the rest of the country.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yes, yes, how how can they because the state passed
a law? You know, for example, the state has different
smog restrictions of the rest of the country. It says
we're going to have a more onerous emission level for gasoline.
We can do that. The state can charge us separate
property tax. But wait a second, they charge a different
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tax in other parts of the country. So what the
state has the right to do that? Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Okay, So can I argue If that's the case, then
why not ban bullets?
Speaker 8 (10:28):
And people can only use non lethal round understood?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
And that is a question because there is no Second
Amendment right to smoke menthol cigarettes. It's not in the constitution.
Why there's a genius for you?
Speaker 9 (10:44):
Oh all right, Nikki, Hi, Nikki, yeah, Nikki there one minute?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Why am I waiting? Hello? Yes, I can.
Speaker 10 (11:01):
Okay, yeah, sorry. So one year ago somebody stole the
key to our community bim box. Unfortunately, the driver license
for my son just came in. So they opened a
fraudulent business account with my son's name. Uh. They deposit
seventy six thousand dollars with I don't know, fraudulent checks
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or they took the name looked like medical places and
then they would draw the money. So we have to
take him through all the bullets go back and forth.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Wait, Wait, wait a minute, hold on, Uh, was money
stolen from you? No?
Speaker 10 (11:41):
No, they you hid named open a banker.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Okay, they owned my bank account and they put money. Okay,
they put money in and then withdrew money and et cetera.
And they just use your son's name.
Speaker 10 (11:51):
By the time they found out seventy six thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, but who's who's seventy six thousand dollars?
Speaker 10 (11:58):
Was it? They from variety of medical places?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Okay? So wait a second, seventy six thousand dollars was
stolen from a variety of medical places.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And have they gone after your.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Son for that money?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Nikki? Have they gone after your son for that money?
Speaker 10 (12:19):
The police go to the neck door neighbor at twelve.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
NICKI, have they gone after your son for the money?
Has anybody sued or demanded that your son pay the money.
Speaker 10 (12:33):
They they sent. Uh, what do you collector?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Okay, so they're asking your son for the seventy six
thousand dollars. Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Not yet?
Speaker 10 (12:47):
But what I'm saying so let me.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
No, no, no, I don't have the patience for this.
Not a chance. Oh, Cynthia, see mister patience here, Cynthia.
What can I do for you?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
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have it. What can I do for you?
Speaker 7 (14:26):
All right?
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Thank you?
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Some property, Cynthia.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I'm having a hard time with his phone call. You
either have to speak louder. We need a better connection. Yeah, okay,
is that better? Yeah?
Speaker 11 (14:40):
Some property. An empty lock was given to me and
my boyfriend, and there wasn't any money exchanged. The couple
just wanted to get rid of it, and so my
boyfriend didn't want it in his name, so he put
it into his child's name. Okay, And and that was
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ten years ago, and now I've been paying that the
taxes for the past ten years by myself. No one
has helped me. How do I get that person's name
off of the deed?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
You don't. I don't know that person owns the property.
What I mean you just arbitrarily say, even though I've paid,
I want you to no longer own the property. I
don't know how to do it. Because you pay the
taxes doesn't mean you own the property. The deed determines
who owns the property, who holds title, and it's you
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and this kid, So you don't not that complicated. Vern.
Welcome to handle on the law. Hi, Vern Yo, Vern, Okay.
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I have no idea what Vern is doing. Maybe Vern
is changing his batteries and his hearing aid. No idea
Vern going once I'm here? All right? Well, yes, okay, Vern.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Hi, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Bill, Sure it was.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
It was nice to meet you at the Wild Fork
and oh okay, yeah, all right, real quick, I know
you're short on time. Hey, the summer before last, we
were in Kawai and we had an aborted takeoff with
the American Airlines. Absolute nightmare, smoking brakes and fire tucks.
At the end of the runway. We had to wait
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for many hours and got to the desk and they said,
we have no more vouchers. You're on your own.
Speaker 11 (16:40):
Good luck.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
Here's forty bucks for food. So I called many places
around the airport, couldn't find anything. Finally found the place
that was about I don't know, twelve hundred bucks for
the three of us by family, and I, oh.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
You're talking about the hotel.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
Yeah, okay, anyways, we have to We had to get
a car canplication. All came out to fifteen hundred bucks
and all they reimbursed this was for four hundred dollars.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (17:06):
They refused the reverses for a ground caspertation. They said no, sorry,
Oh did you get his four hundred bucks? How do I?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Well, okay, here's here. Here is the problem you may have.
It may be a limit of four hundred dollars. That's
all they have to reimburse. And there are all kinds
of regulations and federal rules about that sort of thing
that they comply with. And they're getting more and more liberal,
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or the law is getting more and more restrictive towards
the airline and more liberal in terms of the money
you get. So I don't know what the rules are,
but you can certainly call the Department of Transportation and
you'll talk to somebody there and ask what happens? How
do I deal with it? Because there are restrictions, by
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the way, for American to do that. That's just crappy,
by the way, way, that's just you know, you understand that,
you know, planes blow up. Well in this case it didn't,
but there are problems, mechanical problems. I mean, you know,
it just happens, and you know, you're lucky the plane
didn't fall out of the sky, but for them not
to have reimbursed you your legitimate expenses, Yeah, call the
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Department of Transportation and see what you're entitled to legally,
and then just start calling around, you know, the vice
president in charge of aboarded takeoffs somewhere in American airlines.
You'll be able to talk to someone. Yeah, that's a drag,
all right. Another airline question, Hi, John, Hey Bill?
Speaker 6 (18:37):
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yes, well, yeah, all right, real quick.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
I work for a major airlines that had a contract
that became amendable while I was still working for them,
but they didn't finalize the contract until twenty twenty three.
I retired in twenty twenty one. Am I entitled to
any of the back page?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Is?
Speaker 10 (18:58):
No?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Of course not no. Why would you be entitled to
back pay if that's the case. If you're you're entitled
to the pay from the time the new deal is
cut at that moment you get the new deal. Okay,
why would you get the deal? Why would why would
you go back and say, uh, you know what I
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earned X dollars then, and now there's a new pay schedule,
and I want back pay at the new pay schedule.
I don't understand what you're asking here.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
Well, because I was still working from that PIOD twenty
nineteen to twenty twenty one when I retired.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Okay, So, but I don't okay, I don't understand. Was
the was the new deal retroactive or did it start
at date certain and you got more money?
Speaker 6 (19:47):
No, it was they they paid back it was retroactive
back to.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Oh if it was retroactive and they didn't pay you, yeah,
you're entitled the money. Of course they have to pay
you if they say it's retroactive. So you know, it
happens all the time. You have a new teachers union contract,
new collective bargaining, and it says, Okay, you're negotiating for
a year and it goes, here's our new deal, and
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we're this new pay schedule goes retroactive to a year ago. Okay,
then you're entitled to it. If it's not, then it's
just from the time that the new deal is cut.
I don't understand. Does it is the new pay level?
Is it retroactive?
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Well, yeah, they paid back pay to all those people
for all those years.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Okay, then you're entitled to it. Why wouldn't you be
a title to it.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
I retired, I'm out of luck.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Oh yeah, if you're retired, you're out of luck. Yeah.
I think that cuts it off. I think you're done
if you've retired. Yeah, that's my understanding. I mean, I
don't know what the union rules are because that's a
collective bargaining situation. Steve Hi, Steve Welcome.
Speaker 12 (21:01):
My daughter works at an Indian reservation and she is
not giving her breaks, and her manager is telling her
they don't have to give breaks because they're on federal land.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
They're not on federal land, they're on sovereign land. They're
on It's really interesting with Indian reservations. It's quasi. It's
a quasi sovereign country Indian reservations, and they are not
in most cases, they are not limited or they don't
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have to adhere to rules. So I'm guessing that he
is right that, for example, a state law that says
you have to get breaks on an Indian reservation, the
state doesn't control.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
What about the Feds.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, I don't think there is federal law. But even
then it really doesn't matter. For example, there's federal taxes
right on gasoline, not on an Indian reservation. There isn't
exempt from taxes. That's why you go to one of
the Indian reservations and you buy gasoline for a buck
eighty less than you pay right out of the Indian reservations.
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So I don't know. I don't know what the rules are,
whether this specific rule, for example, breaks they have to give,
you know, for example, let's say it's sovereign nation. However,
there are some limitations, one of them being that the
state of California in this case has a right to
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determine how many gaming tables or slot machines in an
Indian gaming establishment, gambling establishment, a hotel. That there is
some kind of regulation that is allowed. It's insanely complicated
as to how it's unique Indian reservations in this country.
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It is truly a separate country, a sovereign country onto itself,
with all kinds of limitations. So for the gaming board,
well we don't not the gaming board. That's the gaming
board is in in Nevada. No, this is I don't
know who controls the the casinos, you know they have.
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I don't think you're allowed in California, you're allowed poker.
I don't think you're allowed roulette. But yeah, they that's
those are negotiated. There's some laws that do control and
others don't. I'm telling you, it's insanely complicated. I don't
know the Indian law on this, but I'm willing to
guess that they're absolutely right. You know, I don't think
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they have to give breaks unless the law says they
have to get breaks. David, Yes, sir, What can I
do for you? David? Yes, sir? Hello, Yes, David, go ahead. Yes.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Hi. I am a a dentist and I signed a uh,
excuse me. I was dealing with my building manager in
terms of signing the lease, and she said, just sign
a seven year lease, no problem. And I explained to her,
right then, first thing I said, out of out of
my mouth, I'm planning on retiring before UH that seven
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year leases up. And she said, not to worry. We
handle this all the time, people retiring before the before
the lease is up. So I retired in this in
UH in August. And now the company says that she
did not the building managers did not have time excuse me,
she did not have the authority to say what she did,
and that I still owed.
Speaker 12 (24:41):
Oh rent, And.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I said, had I known that, I would never have
signed the lease because I believed that what am I
supposed to do? Not believe the building managers she was
my contact, David, second, I would I would never have.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
You know, I understand, I understand. But here's a question.
You signed a lease that says seven years right there
on paper, boom boom, boom boom, And there is nothing
in the lease, There is no language whatsoever that says
that if you retire somehow, the lease at that point
is terminated. You have the word of a manager. What
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if she gets hit by a truck after you sign
the lease and no one knows that she said that,
or she denies. She says that David, this is your fault.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
I'm not I'm not denying that.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Okay, So what's your question.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
I say, I think that I signed under false pretenses.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Uh okay, that's your that's what you're saying. You sign
under false pretenses. And you're gonna go that. You're gonna
go to court and you're going to say this is
what happened. And the building manager is the building manager
still working there?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
No, she's not there anymore.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Okay, Wow, So they're gonna bring her in and she's
gonna testify. Uh yeah, I said that absolutely, and they're
gonna say she wasn't authorized to say that. And then
the conversation is over. What if she said, you know what,
you're signing a lease and you're you're we're charging you
three thousand dollars a month on the lease, and she said,
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by the way, all you have to do is pay
fifteen hundred dollars. But she said, I only have to
pay fifteen hundred dollars. That's what she said. What if
she had said to you, you get a year's free rent.
Are you going to actually argue? But she said, I
got a year's free rent. But she said, I can
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retire early. You're screwed, David, you are screwed. And I
don't even want to hear that. But what do you expect? Lydia? Lydia, lydia,
the tattooed lady. Yes, go ahead, Yes.
Speaker 10 (26:52):
I am huh, yes I do.
Speaker 12 (26:55):
So.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I ordered a pease pray for my dog from Amazon.
Speaker 10 (27:00):
M hm.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
They delivered it. They delivered it. I tried spraying my
dogs with the spray bottle and it wouldn't spray straight.
It would spray down, so it was defective. Every kind
I tried spraying them, it wouldn't work, so it sprayed down.
I call Amazon, let them know it's defective. So can
you please send me a barcode. I'm going to return it.
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They send me a barcode to return it the next day.
So I left the bottle of spray on top of
my table, the dining table, in the box that I
came in ready to send out the following day.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
To return it.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Went to bed The next morning. When I woke up,
all that spray that was in the bottle just fell
up into the table and onto my wooden floors. Everything.
There was a puddle of that stuff. Everywhere underneath the table,
and my house melts terrible. I called Amazon, let them
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know what happened. They told me to send pictures, send
me as much information as you can, and I did.
They told me get an estimate of your damage floors
and the table. I did back and forth emails. They
send that case to their insurance company, which you said,
what I'm waiting to share from them right now? What
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do you think is going to happen.
Speaker 10 (28:16):
With that case?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I don't know at this point. I mean, if they're
willing to do that, and they turn it over the
insurance company and you have the pictures and they said
everything they're going to do. I mean, Amazon is not
a small company. This is not a Mom and popper,
and they have obviously an entire department. The fact that
they said this is what we need. I don't think
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they were pulling your chain. What I think is going
to happen is they're going to make you an offer
of some kind. How much damage are you claiming.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
A little bit under two thousand dollars?
Speaker 1 (28:49):
All right, well, you know, are they going to pay it?
I don't know, man, I don't know who makes that decision.
I don't know who makes that decision in the insurance company,
and so I can't tell you. Bottom line is I
have no idea. And that's not even marginal legal advice.
That actually is I have no idea, and no one
has any idea. God how very rarely happens. When usually
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it's I have no idea. Generally it deals with the
law when I just don't know or I'm wrong, I
have no idea. All right, Before I walk out and
say goodbye, I want to tell you about the latest
with Zelman's Minty Mouth mins, the offer they're making now.
I've been talking about Zelman's for I don't know how
many months now. And these are these mints that are
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on these little packets and I use them all the time.
I have them all over the place. And it has
to do with your breath. And if you at all
concerned about your bad breath, throw a couple of these
in your mouth and they have this minte coating that's
pretty strong and lasts for a while, and your mouth
feels so fresh and clean. And then you either bite
into these capsules or you swallow them. I swallow and
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they go down in your gut because it's parsley seed
oil and it really gets to work in your gut.
No other mint does that. And so the freshness and
the fresh breath feel just goes on for hours and hours,
far more than any other mint even pretends to do.
So here is what they're offering, and I've never seen
them do this. If you order a three pack, you
will get a bonus pack. In other words, you order
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three you will get a fourth package of Zelman's mintye
mouth bit. So go to Zelmans dot com slash handle
z l M I n s Zelmans dot com slash handle,
order a three pack, get a free pack on top
of that three free. I have to make sure you
understand that because I barely do zelmans dot com slash
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handle Zelmans dot com slash handle. Also, as I've told you,
I'm gonna stay on the phone, and for those of
you that are on hold, don't go away. And for
those of you that are listening and you're still wanting
to make a phone caller considering and figuring out do
you want a legal question marginally answered? The phone number,
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as always is eight hundred five two zero one five
three four. Eight hundred five two zero one five three four.
This is handle on the law