Scottish Woman Murdered in LA

Handel on the Law. Marginal Legal Advice

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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I get so depressed.

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Number eight hundred five two zero one five three four
eight hundred five two zero one five three four. This
is Handle on the Law Marginal Legal Advice. This is
a brutal story of someone being arrested for brutality, and
it has to do with lawyers. That's why I get

(01:15):
so interested in this stuff, murder geography, and it has
to do with a Scottish woman who moved to the
US to become a defense lawyer and was killed in
Los Phelis, which is a neighborhood that I know very well.
It's very close to Los Angeles, matter of fact, right
on top of downtown Los Angeles, just a little ways away,

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and it's a really nice neighborhood. So she moved to
La earlier this month, and her husband is now facing
murder and utilation charges in her death. June Bunyan, thirty
seven year old, was found September eleventh at her apartment

(01:58):
on Franklin Avenue, again this area in Los Phelis, and
according to the LA County and Medical Examiner, her cause
of death was traumatic neck injuries and was a homicide.
I mean, he's accused of basically beating her to death.
So they arrest her husband, twenty five year old Jonathan Renteria,

(02:19):
in Ventura County, which is a county next to It's
north of La County and it's not that far away,
and he was booked on suspicion of murder and being
held in LA on bail of four million dollars. The family,
which has no money, has launched a Go fund me
campaign to bring her remains back to the United's Kingdom,

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not to do anything legal, just to bring her body
back home to be buried.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
That's how broke they are.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
And she was originally born, as I said, in Scotland,
earned a law degree in Aberdeen, Scotland, Roberbert Gordon University
in Aberdeen. Have no idea where and who that is.
It's an Aberdeen go figure. And she had established her
own paralegal service in twenty twenty four, specializing in immigration

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law and was preparing to take the California bar and
become an attorney in immigration. And as of right now,
the fundraising campaign has raised more than one hundred and
fifteen thousand dollars and that's according that's as of today,
so I'm sure they're going to get the money.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
That's a heartbreaking story, that really is.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Okay, let's go ahead and take some phone calls. Shelley
has an interesting story. So Shelley, we're going to make
this fairly quick. Let's go for it.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Okay, thanks for round number two and starters. In the military,
she's treated for concussion of migraines.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
As a result wait a second, hold on, I'm going
to throw some questions at you. The computers as a
result of a car accident. Correct, yeah, okay, got it.
So she's treated in the military for migraines that she developed.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah, okay, they prescribed her they incorrectly prescribed your medications
to treat the migraines because she wasn't able to work
because of the migraines. But she finally got to neurologists,
and neurologist said those are the wrong medications, and she
was overdosed, leaving her unable to work several days a week.

(04:29):
Fast forward a year later, the military is she's being
seen in front of a board to medically retire her.
She was denied being seen by neurologists for let's say,
probably seven months out of the entire year.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
All right, and your question is.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
My question is does she have a case and let lawyer?
What type of lawyers should she consult?

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, you want to go? Does she have a case? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Well, first of all, she needs someone to to represent
her in front of that board that's either going to
give her permanent disability full retirement, which I would think
is you know, pretty good because she ends up getting
lifetime retiring benefits. I don't know how much money that is,
but allows her to do whatever the hell she wants.
And so that's not a bad position to be in. Malpractice.

(05:21):
You know, it sounds like malpractice on its face. The
problem is suing the military for malpractice.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
That's no joke.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
This is not your regular medical malpractice case, which is
difficult enough anyway. And by the way, migrain headaches. You know,
I don't know how many lawyers would take that in
the first place. And then lawyers who have specialties going
after the military is again something even another sub specialty.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
So I think you have a real problem with that one.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
What you need first get that First of all, you
want to get that disability, that retirement. That's what I
would think lawyers out there who specialize in that administrative
hearings in front of the military. They're civilian lawyers, and
they know exactly what they're doing. And maybe you can
get someone within the military, and you're entitled to that

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whenever going against the military itself. It's almost like a
public defender position. And I don't know if they have
that or not. But you get to do the research
on that one, and that may be the case. And
I don't know the answer to that. I guess the
way I answered it is, I don't know the answer
to that. Boy, is this good advice? Bill Hi Bill,
welcome to handle on the law.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
Hell Bill, Yes, I have a pretty quick question. And
I sold my house back in February to a house
slipper type company, and the agreement was I would I
sold it for three hundred and ninety thousand, and I
accepted three hundred thousand right away, and I said, they
said that, well, we'll give you the other ninety six

(06:57):
months later, so so I could go out to be okay,
I guess. So the anyway, it comes to August the first,
that's six months. I called them up and say, you know,
where's my ninety thousand. They said, oh, we haven't. We
haven't sold it yet or something. You know, they're trying
to fix it up. So I said, man, what am
I going to do? So I said, okay, well they
wanted me. They wanted to give me the other ninety

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h I when they sold the house, and it's now
they just put up for sale. They finally put up
for sale two weeks ago for five hundred and ninety
nine thousand, and it hadn't sold yet. So I don't
know they could take on the six months to sell it.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
I don't know what could be. Yeah, it could be.
So they're in brief, but right.

Speaker 6 (07:35):
Is yeah, yeah, good. Now what do you do you
think that I could put a lien on or for
ninety thousand or.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I think you can yeah, I think you can put
a lien on it.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Uh, you know, we're certainly a list pendance on it,
which stops everything cold. But you want to get this
thing sold, that's what you want to do. So let's
say you are able to put effectively a lien on it.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
What does that do? It forces them, I guess to
pay you.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Do you assume that once they sell the house, do
you think they're gonna stiff you?

Speaker 6 (08:05):
Well, they might, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Okay, so you have a breach.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Okay, you have a breach, and now what you get
to do is get a lawyer, I guess, to sue
for whatever it is, one hundred thousand dollars. Now, the
contract that you sign with them, does it say prevailing
party gets attorney sees.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Do you know whether that's in there or not?

Speaker 6 (08:25):
I don't know if that's in there.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Okay, you have to look, Yeah, you have to look.
It's real simple.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
That contract usually calls for a prevailing party, which means
if you sue them and you win, which I don't
see how they can get around this case. They say
they're going to pay you in six months, they don't
pay you in six months whatever amount is due.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
They're clearly in breach.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
It didn't say that in the event six months passes
and we haven't sold the house yet, then in excess,
then another six months and you have to wait. None
of that language is in there. It just says, here,
we'll pay you this amount of money after six months.
You got the lawsuit there that looks pretty clean, and
you have a prevailing party provision.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Usually in those contracts.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
The problem is you're gonna have to come up with
a lawyer, and you're gonna have to pay the lawyer
and then hopefully get your money back. The other time
you have to make a motion to get your money back,
and that's a whole separate animal. And then what happens,
they're simply going to say, we don't have the money,
you know, and wait until you know we sell it.
Here's what you're doing, what we're doing, and you know

(09:27):
what your lawyer is going to say, I'd wait a
few months, because if you wait a few months and
they go ahead and pay you, you know, no harm
no foul, except you've been paid a little bit late
or a lot late. And the other situation is if
they don't pay you, that's a different story. That's when
I would get a lawyer.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Okay, that's what.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
I would do.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, okay, okay, you got it all right, goodbye.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
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Dearth by the way, is it earth means little or
I think dearth means small amount where plethora is a
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Eight hundred five to two zero one five three four. Okay,
back we go more Handle on the Law, Marginal Legal Advice. Paul,

(10:51):
Welcome to the show. Hello Paul, what can I.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Do for you?

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Come back to bill good morning. I happen to have it,
and eighty years old lady and she left the last
months sometimes in the middle of August, and she got
she went into a nursing home. And unfortunately, since we
happened to have a rental contract agreement, any party that

(11:19):
lies to end the rental contract agreement we need, we
needed to give each other sixty days notice. So uh,
when she left regardless in August, she did the right
thing when I asked her to pay the money for
the months of September, which she sent me a check,
and I went ahead and touched the check for the

(11:39):
months of September.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
And then maybe like a week later, I guess, I
found out that the check was unfortunately canceled. I didn't
get the money for the rent money for September. And
sure enough, out of nowhere, her sister pops up over
the phone somewhere from health, North Carolina and tells me

(12:02):
that I don't have nothing to take money anything whatsoever
from her sister. I don't even know this woman, and
I don't have any rental agreement to contract with her
at all. Then I went to the nursing home to
get hold of my tenant. And I told her, I
think your sister made a stop payment for the check

(12:23):
for the months of September. You needed to issue me
a check and this and that, I told her. And
somehow I do not know whether she got money pulated
by her sister or her memory got maybe more deteriorated.
She would tell me I don't even have a rental
contract with you at all. I was like shocked. Anyway,
make the story short. What happened is you see Bill,

(12:47):
throughout the last eight nine months when she was living here,
she was going in and out to the hospital, and
then she would leave me checks like for her rent payments.
Sometimes also blank checks to do some other work, arrangements whatever,
to do payments for hair. So I would help, not
for the rent.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Now wait wait wait those checks that were blank were
they used for the rent or simply to fix whatever
or ancillary to the rent.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
No, she would give me. She would give me blank
checks in case so she is not late with her payment.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Okay, got it all right, Okay, so now she's not.
Now she is saying that she doesn't remember, or the
sister is saying she doesn't remember.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
No, I do really believe that the sister told her
just tell him.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
To Okay, So she is saying that you don't get
fair enough and you have and are you sitting on
a blank check?

Speaker 5 (13:41):
Yeah? And now I have a blank check that is
not signed by by her at all.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
That doesn't help.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
That doesn't help.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
My question is, yeah, that doesn't help you.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Obviously a blank check signed by that's not signed, it's
not a check.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
So what's what's your question?

Speaker 5 (13:56):
So my question is can I sign the check and
fill it up?

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Nope? What you want to cut? You? You wanna uh?
You want to commit forgery?

Speaker 5 (14:04):
Right?

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Is that what you're asking?

Speaker 7 (14:07):
Bill?

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Can I forget your basically? Why don't you turn it
around and let me give you the question Bill? Uh,
can I forge a check?

Speaker 2 (14:15):
What do you think? The answer is.

Speaker 8 (14:19):
No?

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Right, good point. You should do this show you cannot
forge a check.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
So what you have is a woman that you're going
to try to sue, uh, and who has memory issues
and she's living in some place out there where she
doesn't know.

Speaker 8 (14:35):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Do you know what I would do?

Speaker 3 (14:37):
I would uh just re rent the house and walk away.
I mean, you can sue, but you know she won't
even be able to testify, So just hang it up.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
It's not worth it's not worth the hassle. Paul. Just
you're You're done with it. That's literally all.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
I would do, all right, Uh, Jacqueline, Hello Jacqueline. Oh
you know what, Jacqueline, hang on, h Jacqueline. We'll come
back because we're running out of time on this segment.
This is Handle on the Law and let's chick in
with Heather Brooker.

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Can't fie handle here.

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It is a Saturday morning, and we continue on the
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Speaker 2 (15:34):
Jacqueline, you're on the show. What can I do for you?

Speaker 7 (15:41):
I have a can you hear me? Sorry?

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, I can actually.

Speaker 7 (15:45):
Okay, Okay, great. I have a family court case. I
do have a restrain in order in place against my
children's father. It is domestic violence. It was granted for
a year, it is coming up. I did a file
for renewal. My question is, you know, do I need

(16:11):
anything to get it renewed, Like do I need to
show any more abuse? During the year. He does have
a criminal case against him as well because he didn't
comply with the restraining order.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Yeah, do you need to show anything more? Probably not.
Do you want to show anything more?

Speaker 2 (16:29):
You bet.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
You want to throw everything you can into this case. Now,
I noticed on the screen it's written his family or
supervising the visits. So as part of the restraining order
at this point, allowing his family to supervise visits.

Speaker 7 (16:45):
Yeah, so he was monitored for a long time, but
he said he couldn't afford it, so he was in
a financial burden. So the judge is this is a
new judge. They changed the judge on me as well.
She granted it for him.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Okay, so the family so okay, So he gets visitation
and that's supervised by his family, correct, yes, okay, So
let me ask you, is that working for you or
do you think there's something untoward that your children are
suffering because of that? Oh?

Speaker 7 (17:21):
I see my children I have, they're three and seven,
so they don't know really what's going on. I mean,
my seven year old, I could see a difference in
his He's very quiet when I pick him up after
the visit. You know, I try to talk to him.
But I don't know where they're going. That's another issue,
you know, I don't know, jac you.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Know, Jacqueline, Okay, I get that. So Jacqueline, here is
the issue. Your opinion of the way he is quiet,
et cetera doesn't have a whole lot of.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Veracity. I mean, you know people say that all the time.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Now, if you take the kid to a shrink and
the shrink says this is the issue and this is
not healthy, that's ammunition that you're coming into court with.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Also saying I don't have that.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Well, if you have that, then you go in front
of the and you put that in front of the
judge already.

Speaker 7 (18:11):
Yes, well, I mean they're telling me the subpoena the therapist,
but I the therapist is going.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
To I don't think the therapist is going to help you.
Who's telling you the subpoena the therapist, the judge?

Speaker 5 (18:22):
Yeah, the judge.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Well you can, okay, you.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Can go ahead and see, Okay, try subpoena in the
therapy the therapist.

Speaker 7 (18:29):
I mean I have documentation from the therapy.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Then you go all right, so you all right, fair enough,
so and you but you've already brought that into court
and the judge is ignoring that.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Correct.

Speaker 7 (18:40):
The problem is it's being continued because he might be
placed on the child abuseless.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Okay, would you want to go in in an emergency?

Speaker 3 (18:48):
I would go in on an emergency hearing I just
walking in the door and asking for one uh and
seeing what happens, arguing that your child is in dang.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Do you have an attorney on this?

Speaker 7 (19:03):
I did, but I felt that he wasn't really helping me,
so I let him go.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Okay, I would consider having another attorney if you can
afford it, because there's some complexity here. This is not
the easiest case because you're arguing arguing that the grandparents
are where the relatives are not doing the job that
they should, that the child, the children may be in danger.
You have got a shrink that says the time that

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they're spending with their dad is not healthy for their kids.
I mean, you got all kinds of arguments, and they're
going to argue the other way. Also, you say you
don't know where they're taken, and you would argue that. Yeah,
I'm surprised that the judge didn't say you have to say.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Where you're going.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
You have to tell him that and if he left,
if the judge left that one alone, then there's a
real issue as to the new judge that clearly there's
something wrong. And so you can try being the judge,
you can try to say I want this judge out.
Although that happens initially. This is why you need a
lawyer on this. Unfortunately, you have no choice on this, Jacquelin.

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This case is complicated enough where you had one who
wasn't doing a good job. How unusual that never happens,
does it? And so now a new lawyer is going
to do it all right? Trish Hi, Trish.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Hi.

Speaker 9 (20:26):
My deceased father had a gun that is still registered
to him in California. The gun was given to someone
at our estate sale. I wasn't there. My son had
the estate. I'm in Colorado. I was the executor of
my dad's estate. That person, the person that has the gun,

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does not want to give it back.

Speaker 8 (20:50):
What can I do?

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Okay? Was it purchased? No, it was just given by
whoever was running who was running the estate.

Speaker 9 (20:58):
Sale my son And it was actually the lady that
helped my son with the estate sale, so she was
paid for the estate sale. But it wasn't all legal.
She only charged ten percent.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Well that's legal, I mean ten percent is legitimate. Yeah,
so that's not a problem. Now here's the issue is
do you know whether that person is allowed to have
the gun or not?

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Do you have any idea that.

Speaker 8 (21:25):
I don't know?

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Okay, all right, so you have. So here's what happens.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
The estate can, well, the estate can probably sue the
person who gave away the gun because the new gun
owner is going to say it was given to me,
was it's a legitimate gift to me, and I now
own the gun, so you can sue him. Well, you're
not going to do it in small claims court because

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the judge is.

Speaker 9 (21:52):
Not going to well, and it's and that person is
my son, my forty two year olds who.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Got the gun for free. Uh, all right, so on behalf.

Speaker 9 (22:02):
Of No, he was just taking care of all my
dad's stuff. He had a garage sale. Then this lady
showed up.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Okay, but you're but you're the but you're the executor
of the estate, right, so you have a decision as
to what's sold and what is it.

Speaker 9 (22:17):
Yes, that's correct.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Okay, did you let your son do this?

Speaker 9 (22:22):
No, he didn't not to find me. I literally just
asked him this morning, Hey, what happened to the gun?

Speaker 3 (22:28):
No, no, not the gun? Was he was he allowed
to do the sale the estate sale?

Speaker 9 (22:34):
Yes, I did.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Okay, I think you're I think you're I think you're
out of luck. You can sue him for the value
of the gun. That's about it. I think you I
think you're out of luck. Yeah, that's how much is
that gun?

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah? How much is that gun worth?

Speaker 9 (22:48):
I don't know, Bill, I don't know, all.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Right, So yeah, I don't think you have a case,
but I will do this. If whoever owns the gun
takes out a kindergarten class with that gun and nineteen kids,
you call me back and we'll talk about how to
deal with the next step. This is handle on the law. Hey,
five am, six forty Bill.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Handle Here. It is a Saturday morning.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
And I'm back from the vacation wars. And it didn't
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It never does, right, You're back in the saddle, and
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On the law.

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Marginal legal advice. Brad, Welcome to the show. Yes, sir,
what can I do for you?

Speaker 10 (23:54):
Yeah, I'm a renter and I rent a single family dwelling.
I pay all the utilities. The parcels eleven acres, but
the owner fenced off about three acres and he's got
some horses and goats and stuff like that in the back.
When I signed the Leafs agreement, I asked, nobody else
is living on the property. You're not growing any illegal

(24:15):
marijuana or anything like that. He agreed, none of that's happening.
And initially everything was good. I showed up at my
house last Saturday, and I'm swarmed with police. This guy
is having cock fights in the backyard. He's got a
big old marijuana grow going on. For the last few months.
Every Sunday, about fifteen twenty guys show up in the back.

(24:37):
Apparently he's got an entire another family living back there.
And like I said, I pay all the utilities and
everything else. Law enforcement advised me to stop paying rent,
save my money.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
And move out.

Speaker 10 (24:49):
I'm not sure what you would recommend in this situation.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, well, I mean, is the cock fighting still going on?

Speaker 10 (24:57):
As far as I know it is, I'm not entirely sure.
I think it's eleven acres. It's way out there.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, I would try to find the best rooster that
you can gamble on the best one and see if
you can make a little bit of money on it. Now,
when you rented the property, you rented the entire eleven acres,
Is that correct?

Speaker 10 (25:19):
I rented a single family dwelling. He did have it
fenced off, but there is nothing in the lease agreement
that says I am go ahead.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
When you talk about utilities, I mean pot growing. Is
a huge amount of water being used? Are you paying
for that?

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yes? Okay?

Speaker 3 (25:41):
And the cock fights, yeah, that gets kind of interesting.
And the police have already arrived and arrested this guy
at some point.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Right, Well, they.

Speaker 10 (25:50):
Arrived and I believe they arrested seven people and the
rest of them ran off into the bushes.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Well, right, following the chickens or the roosters. All right, Well,
here's what I would do at this point, I wouldn't
pay the rent. I agree with the police officer. I
wouldn't move either. Let them sue you for the rent,
that's what they said. Yeah, let them sue you for
the rent. What are they gonna say you? They breached
the contract all over the place there, committing criminal acts

(26:17):
on your property what you leased, and then you're just
saying no, no, no, thank you. Now their argument is
that it is separate, that what we're doing, even felonious activity,
has nothing to do with you. We have fenced it off.
You knew we fenced it off. You saw the fence,

(26:38):
and therefore it's it's an entire issue.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
It's entire different issue.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
And how does that How does that get in the
way of your lifestyle? That they're having cock fights? Are
the dead chickens being thrown over your over the fence?
Are they running into your yard? The Are there bad
people showing up buying the pot? I mean that's a
lot of pot they're growing.

Speaker 7 (27:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (27:05):
Yeah, So they have a fire and they burned the dead,
the dead roosters in a fire.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Okay, so that's enough, that's enough, They're okay, Then you're
making your place they're making your place uninhabitable.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
That's it. Set yourself up.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
I would send them an email or record yourself walking
over there and saying I want no more dead roosters.
They don't smell particularly good and bottom line is just
not interested. You know, you said, no, you're committing a
criminal act. We're not paying. Let them evict you, and
you've got plenty of defenses there. Yeah, that's what I

(27:40):
would do.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Not bad.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
But oh, by the way, congratulations on Since I've been
doing this, literally this show for decades, I've never heard
of that question before.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Okay, good for you. I just don't get that often.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Payment high payment. Welcome to handle on the law. Okay,
all right, payment is is not there? But Anne is Hi? Anne,
welcome to handle on the law.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Good morning, Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 8 (28:07):
My question regards probate a relative past in Arizona. Sorry
I made some notes. I'm the only living relative. I'm
the trustee and executor of the estate. I live eight

(28:28):
hours away in California. Some of her money is not
in her trust, specifically two online banks and several financial institutions.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Okay, how much Anne?

Speaker 8 (28:47):
A million plus?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Okay, so that's a chunk of money. All right.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
So are you also the trustee of the trust? Yes, okay,
that is easy. You can distribute the trust. You have
the power to distribute the trust because the trust door,
being your relative, is completely dead, which helps enormously when
you're a trust store a trustee. Okay, So now the
issue becomes the rest of the money that's outside of

(29:11):
the trust. Is there a will that leaves that money
to somebody?

Speaker 8 (29:16):
No, I'm the only beneficiary. Okay, that's sorry. I need
to pay out four hundred K to four different charities.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
According to the trust. According to just it has to
be just the trust.

Speaker 8 (29:35):
According to the trust, I need to pay out.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Okay, fine, all right, So you do that, all right,
fair enough, But you have enough money in there to
pay for it, I'm assuming, right, So that's easy, all right,
So you write the checks to them. Now the issue
is to that other money that's outside of the trust,
that's sitting in accounts. Are you the only beneficiary? Yes, okay,

(29:57):
that's easy. You open up a probate. You have to
open up a probate where you will be both the
trustee and the beneficiary. And since you are the only beneficiary,
no one's going to come in and attack it, or
there shouldn't be an attack. They may come in, but
they have to prove that they're entitled to that money.
They have a close enough relationship do when you say relative,

(30:20):
what relationship do you have?

Speaker 8 (30:22):
Sister?

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Sister?

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Well, okay, that's all right, that's a relative. So there's
no mom, there are no kids, and I'm assuming the
closest is cousins. Dad.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Oh dad's still around.

Speaker 8 (30:38):
No, dad, Oh they're all dead.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Oh this is good man. You didn't and you didn't
and you didn't and you didn't kill them or anything.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Okay, Oh that's excellent. All right, Well that makes it
easy for you. That that's actually a very easy one.
Just the numbers are big. You want to hire a
trust and a state lawyer who will take the case.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
It has to be filed.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
You have to open a probate, that is it's going
to be an intestinate probate, that is someone having an
estate without a will, And then.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
You get it.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Now the issue of Arizona in California. That that's a
no brainer. That's easy. People die in other states all
the time. So a quick answer is a probate and
a state lawyer. A slow answer is a probate and
a state lawyer. You'll be fine. You'll be absolutely fine. Okay,

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